I mean to be fair, he's just some guy who followed the gunboat diplomacy of the government to USA citizens... To the Japanese, he's the guy who basically started their second civil war.
In my 7th grade History class our teacher basically just said "So japan was closed, until some dude named Perry came in with a bunch of guns and said 'hey open up the country or we will invade you and have another island'"
The warm water thing had to do with Russia wanting ports that are not frozen over part of the year and hopefully connected to a big ocean, it's been a constant problem.
I did a project in school where we had to dress up as a person from history and bring a food relating to them. I chose Matthew perry but I didn't have materials to dress like him so I just wore red white and blue with a piece of paper that said "Matthew Perry" on it and brought some Pocky. Got full credit.
To be fair, we didn't just drop the bombs on Japan b/c we were "curious if they worked". We were at war and Japan was geared up to defend the home islands to the last man. As welll as civlians killing themselves in the event of being conquered. Just look up Okinawa. Numbers-wise, it was either the 400,000 in Hiroshima/Nagasaki or the 1,000,000+ projected casualties of an invasion, many of them our own troops.
@@nekoqueen5524 I'd say all hard feelings have passed, at least on the US side (which is the one I can speak to). It was 90 years ago and we've been friends again for most of that.
The Dutch were most sensible choice for the Japanese back then, as it was the most tolerant (or least intolerant) European country in religious matters. Japanese authorities knew the dutch wouldn't try to convert them into christianity.
@@devincook1396 The Portuguese were indeed the first ones, but they were extremely proselytist (like the Spanish), so they were kicked out. The Dutch were not, and their influence was so great that there's a word for modern science (in that era), which was rangaku (蘭学). The ran comes from the Japanese word for the Netherlands, so it literally means "Dutch studies".
We still don't, to be honest, and he really doesn't do much anyway. It's pretty much the prime minister running the country. Just like the queen of England, the emperor is just a symbol.
@@xSG1969x same for us swedes, our king is just there doing his own thing whatever that is 😂 but we stan haha. we have our prime minister and the blocks that runs the show.
@@torahibiki though we were also kinda like that with our "Holy Roman Emperor of German Nation". He kinda existed and looked fabulous, but other than calling the army to defend against outsiders he had no real power in the later stages of the empire (though usually the person elected as emperor was a powerful lord in his own right)
@@boahkeinbockmehr correct me if am wrong. But wasn't the holy Roman emperor, at one point or another, a king of one of the regional kingdoms that sized power by succession, in some cases bloody-full on war successions, and became emperor after tge pope in Italy recognize him at such? Like Otto or sigismund?
My HS history teacher said "Russia is always trying to get out" because they are a very large country that historically had no access to ports they could easily use year round. Nowadays they have the Kaliningrad exclave near Poland, but that's only one.
@@rfmerrill There's also Vladivostok. But, it's super far from Moscow. And Sevastapol, but that port is restricted by Turkey's control of the Bosporus.
The Dutch were still allowed to trade on Dejima because they weren’t interested in spreading a foreign religion in Japan and were just there to make money
Fun little fact that has become more populat resently. Part of why the Dutch retained good relations with Japan involved the English Samurai "William Adams" who worked for the Dutch before the Shogun decided he wanted him to stay. I'm fairly certain this was some time before the country was closed, but that part at least was facilitated in-part by his influence. Here's a letter he wrote around the time; th-cam.com/video/5nw6jiX2p7k/w-d-xo.html
British Rick I know of him. He became one of the first western samurai together with his first mate. There weren’t that many men from the west allowed the honor to follow in their footsteps
Honestly a bit shocked you never learned about the mongol invasions of Japan. The Mongols tried to invade Japan in 1274 but while on sea a typhoon hit the fleet and destroyed about 1/3rd of the ships carrying roughly 13.000 men who all drowned. 7 Years later the mongols tried again with an even larger fleet reportedly carrying 140.000 soldiers, whereas Japan only had 40.000 defenders at the time. This fleet was again decimated by a typhoon that killed half of the Mongol army at sea, most of those that did make it to shore were easily killed by the Japanese defenders. The Japanese obviously attributed these miracles to their gods and named the typhoons "divine wind" or Kamikaze 神風. As one of Japan's greatest moments in history (beating the Mongols is a feat only few could list) I really thought it would be thought to everyone. Maybe it's forgotten because of the dark re-purposing of the word kamikaze during WW2. I think that's sad since 神風 has a much better history than what we mostly remember now.
I also didn't know that story about the typhoons. It's actually fascinating and it makes sense that we attributed them to the gods. If it had happened only once, fine, but twice is just insane.
Easily defeated by the Japanese is a HUGE stretch. The Mongols decimated the Japanese, and they barely defeated the invaders. The typhoons were literally the divine wind, because they 100% saved japan.
@@aldyn1647 The reason these typhoons easily destroyed the Mongol fleet is because the Mongols were impatient and used non-seaworthy vessels to cross the ocean. Naval warfare is not their strong point.
you only have to visit hiroshima to understand what an incredible country/culture japan is, you would never know it happened if you were passing through town and there was no monuments there to make you aware of it
@@cbtowers4841 But it shows the Japanese self-image. They never wholeheartedly apologized for the crimes against Koreans and Chinese, they didn't even admit every crime that happened. Yes, you're allowed to mourne the losses in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but ignoring your own responsibility in this is very hypocritical.
How shocked he was when he found out about world war 1 kinda surprised me because everyone in America is taught about how dumb it was and how it was non-sensible
It seems dumb when people say the war began because some noble got shot in the head. The truth is that WW1 conflicts came escalating through history and intensified a lot during the formation of national state territories as the countries we know of today. Differences between England and France lead to the american independence and the french revolution just as an example. The assassination of a prince was the official reason to start a conflict that was already waiting to happen
@@RadeticDaniel But at the same time simplifying something even as big as ww1 as "inevitable" is tricky business. Reality is that the war started because of the assassination. If Princip hadnt pulled that trigger, we might be living in a different world. If a nuclear exchanged had occurred during the cold war, would we today be saying it was inevitable given the state of the world in the 60s and 70s? I think history unfolds in more chaotic ways than we are comfortable with.
@@thesecondwolf1 good point on the cold war... reminds me of the saying "hindsight is 20/20". . Maybe a better way is to put the assassination as a catalyst. It made sure to accelerate a reaction, despite what might've happened without it.
@@kobi-wanaenobi7080 I mean, war is war. I'm not saying it's okay to wipe out entire cities, I'm saying people ignore everything the Japanese did in for example China during WW2.
Perry was mentioned in our textbook in middle school but we never went over it. There's a lot of stuff that had been in our textbook that kinda just never got discussed (there was also a shit ton that was left out of the textbook SO NO ONE WINS)
The way the government had so many changes and the land changes and the way Japan originally used a Chinese alphabet and was kind of based from China is weird to think about but so cool at the same time! After this stupid Corona is over I would love to go see Tokyo
A lot of Americans hate Japanese because of WW2 and all that but I dont see why, just like Osama we shouldn’t hate everyone because of one person or group’s actions, Japan was Imperial Japan then and it’s different now.
Also the dutch because they included Japan in the spice trade which Japan could not originally access because 1. The Dutch controlled the oceans in the center of the spice trade and 2. They were too far away. Also yes that American guy is famous (ish) here. His name is Commodore Matthew Perry
Dutch Knocks on Japans door* Dutch: Hello would you like to hear the great word fro- Japan: No thank you, we are fine. Dutch: Would you like to buy our cookies and spices ? Japan: Yea! Sell that over their though please. America Knocks on Japans door* Perry: Hey we got weapons and God to sell. I don't have much time, now i got some buddies coming over and they want shipments of your best tea. And we- Japan : No thank you, please leave Perry: Oh you think you have a choice ? You see those boats over there ?
I think it was more on the lines of "Hey! We have Jesus too, just saying... If you want it, that is. No? Okay.". While spain and portugal was more like "SEE THIS!? THIS IS JESUS. EMBRACE IT! EMBRACE IT NOW OR WE'LL END YOU."
Its was the Portugueses that first reached Japan. It was also the Portuguese who introduced the gunpower and Nagasaki was a city founded by them. The Dutch people came later
"Why Dutch?" Because the Dutch didn't try to force their religion on Japan like other Christian nations did, like the Spanish and Portuguese. That's why only the Dutch were allowed to continue trading with Japan. But only in that one location.
@@heyimsteven5311 Well, what else do you do with a group of people agitating against everything traditional in their country, start vandalising shrines and temples, destablising society to impose Christianity on everyone (AKA the usual modus operandi for Christian conversion of a country) all that stuff? It wasn't the shogunate who started that in Japan, it was the Kirishitan who brought it upon themselves. Christianity has been a force of evil and destruction wherever it goes and continues to be that to this day in India, Africa, South America, and other places, where missionaries are still clamouring to get indigenous peoples into their claws, tear their traditions, language, culture, etc. asunder and impose their own religion upon them. Christianity is violence. Christianity is colonisation. And if you don't fight back and destroy it, it that poison will overtake and infect you.
@@agathoklesmartinios8414 I'm not saying ignore radicalist I'm simply saying removing a whole group of people just for their beliefs is ignorant as fuck and if you can't see that then you're basically doing the same to those radical Christians as they're trying to do to others. "Convert them to our side or eliminate them"
@@agathoklesmartinios8414 For one, anyone can do anything in the name of someone else. The only thing that is Christian is the Bible, if you are not informing your ideas of Christianity on the Bible then I have a bridge to sell you in the name of Christianity. For purchasing it you will be rewarded the rank of saint according to me. Christianity has done a great deal of good and it always annoys me when people lay all the evil and none of the good. The evil of men has existed throughout the centuries, it is uniform throughout history. Men of power have always acted the same way. I'm sorry you have been deceived into believing Christianity is the source of corrupt power. The Cyrillic alphabet, which brought literacy to Slavic nations, the foundations of Physics, and the foundation of medicine in the Abbasid Caliphate were developed by ardent Christians. Not only was Newton the most gung-ho Christian physicist of all time, you would be hard pressed to find a scientific unit of notation that does not bear a Christian's name. Christian Syriac was an important language of medicine in the Abbasid Caliphate, and Christians from the school of Nisbis, the academy of Gondishapur, and the European Galen were instrumental in the early disciplines of medicine.
He has another video which I recommend called “the history of the entire world, I guess”. It’s in the same style except it’s the history of everything.
I was taught that is was the announcement that America had joined the world stage as an equal for the first time. Teddy Roosevelt made sure to stop future Spanish-American War type conflicts and placed the sphere of influence over the Western Hemisphere on solid footing. The street down from me is Perry St. I bet every large city around you has a Perry St. Considering the miraculously quick industrialization of Japan and their conflict with Russia...this stop of the Great White Fleet was of vital importance to preserve American fueling stations in the Pacific. Basic highschool history, even for a mediocre student like me. I'm convinced all the kids that game after me divided their lives smoking pot and playing video games.
@@EnteIexia He's a furry little flatfoot Who'll never flinch from afraid He's got more than just mad skill He's got a beaver tail and a bill And the women swoon whenever they hear him say... He's Perry Perry the Platypus
Dutch was really good a business, and they weren’t trying to force everyone to convert to their religion, which made them really popular in Asian countries. Japan of course only trades with them, and there’s a story where all the foreign countries try to trade with China, but all refused to bow to the Chinese emperor, except for the Dutch ambassador, who said “we are here for business, not some stupid pride”.
At some point they actually spreading religion, like in north Sumatra when they send a German guy to turn Batak people into Protestantism so they can be more "civilized" and controlled, not even contact with Arab traders or Aceh and Malay sultanate conquest/subjugation able to make Batak people convert to Islam but a single German dude send by them able to did it.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 South Africa, Suriname, Netherlands Antilles and especially Indonesia are black pages in Dutch history. But looking at the whole history, the Dutch weren't that bad compared with England, Spain or Portugal.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 it seems they were spreading religion through its colonies, but they knew well who they were colonizing and who they were doing business with.
I wish the Dutch were that "cool" to us in South Africa. Instead it went more like : that's a nice peice of land, here's some useless ish and get the hell out. We run this ish now. Then they took over and got karma'd by the Brits but they weren't really that kind to the natives either. Tough times.
Hi! Dutch person here ^^ the reason Dutch people were still allowed to trade was because we were the only country that wasn't interested in coverting the Japanese into Christians. We really only wanted to trade and because we had such a good trading system with the rest of the world, Japan was like "Okay sure!" But to keep the influence of the west to a minimum, we were only allowed to visit Dejima :)
A lot of educated Japanese learned science and philosophy and mathematics from you guys. Meanwhile the Portuguese were more interested in spreading Catholicism so I guess Dutch trade was more profitable for japan than with the portugese
Wow what you said is exactly what I learned in school growing up in Japan.and it’s kinda rare for two different countries to learn the history from exactly the same historical perspectives.
@@hopelove897 We are now. We used to be Christian. And before that we were pagan. We still have a lot of Christians in our country through, divided into Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox Protestant... we even have a Biblebelt full of fanatics.
@@ForestHag As a christian l agree that the imposition is not neccesary, because its so inorganic. The more organic the better. I know genuinely that the teachings of Christ can change the world for the better and minimize suffering at its lowest point, its just that its definitively not well preached. Greetings from Cusco, Peru, you really have a beautiful country
Me, an American, when Shun reaches the part about the creation of the atomic bomb: _[sweating intensifies]_ Edit: ...Oh dear. It might not be the best idea to look at the replies here, but if you do, get yourself some popcorn
yeah its definitely a gray area. Really sucks, even though Japan did bad stuff. Americans defiantly know that the atomic bomb was way too much overkill. America still helped Japan recover, but still doesn't fix the relationship. I think many Americans really like japan because of Japanese cutlture, but the relationship still to this day is kinda low key bad. But America government still helps japan against China and North Korea in an attempt to be chill.
@@ben69028 overkill is definetly not what it was. The other option was to invade the Japanese islands, where the conservative estimate of casulaties of American forces was 1,000,000. So lets do some math here. 2 bombs, or 1,000,000 Americans? Wasnt really a hard choice for us. Sucks for the Japanese, but thats war for ya bud.
@@iamasicksickman it's not about numbers but people who suffers, yes the atom bom way more fast and easy. But america can just do diplomatic approach. No casualties or anything. If you things this is silly think Japanese have little support and a little push will make them surrender.
the creator was going to make something about america but he was too biased in his knowledge. He knew too much about one thing not enough about others so he picked japan instead because it was a country he could do blind without his own thoughts on it.
"Monkey fun" is a reference to 猿楽 (Sarugaku), a form of theater that was very popular in the 11th-14th centuries in Japan. The kanji *can* be translated to "monkey fun," though I *think* "monkey music" is more accurate (when the second kanji is pronounced "gaku," it means "music," but other times it can mean "fun"). Note: I am not Japanese, so my analysis of the kanji might be wrong.
Actually, not much of a big change inJapan since the 80s, though. No big wars or anything. maybe the 2011 earthquake is the only major event after the 80s.
My guess is that it stopped there because he reached the point of history that people watching this video can actually recollect themselves. Or at least are much more aware of.
Many Americans would say something along the lines of "I know Japan was closed once" in regards to Perry. Many of us Americans don't even know why we have such a big Navy. When we were having our civil war, we developed some of the first warship/gunboats that had more powerful steam engines and started to armor up the boats. After these American civil boat battles, the way water fights are handled was forever changed. This basically showed our government and many others that having a big and power Navy is a requirement for survival. That made the US's navy start going global and make it's way to Japan. Definitely interesting stuff and I'm not even a boat guy haha.
The first modern Japanese naval vessel, an ironclad, was actually made from a Confederate Navy boat that ended up being sold off post-war It had a sister ship as well, also turned into an ironclad; though I don’t recall who bought it, some European nation I think, *maybe* a Baltic nation
The US has a big navy because trade has always been a major part of our economy, and a navy is how you protect your merchant vessels and guarantee open shipping lanes. Also, a lack of a large navy bit us in the backside in the past. There were the Barbary pirates shortly after the US gained its independence, the British seizing ships and kidnapping American sailors in the lead up to the War of 1812, and the fact that during the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 the Royal Navy could pretty much sail up and down our coast at will and attack us. By the end of WWII the US had a massive fleet, was easily the wealthiest nation in the world, and was trading with so many nations around the world that it just decided to step up and make sure pretty much all of the shipping lanes would remain open and safe. It's also a rather effective way to project power around the world.
Civil War also saw the first known use of a submarine sinking a ship. Yes there were submarines in the Civil War, very few and very dangerous to be in. Learned about it while in the Navy that a Confederate submarine sank a Union ship.
Fun fact, the Japanese wrote the first novel....ever. Lady Murasaki wrote this during the Heian period of Japan. Also, she helped develop written Japanese.
The thing that surprised me the most was the fact you could tell in advance he'll mention Perry, and when he talked about World War 1 you were surprised it started with the assassination of the Austro-Hungarian crown prince, while in the west (Especially Europe) the case is the *exact* opposite. Everyone who learned some history knows what started World War 1 but I don't think I even know Americans who know who Perry is. Really liked the video! Keep it up :D
Dillard M. DeMoss because they dropped THE bomb. Although Japan’s war crime is bigger than Germany and probably one of the most sadistic military in WW2, dropping a bomb on innocent japanese civilians is a huge no no. Still tho, in war, everyone is wrong, that’s why its stupid.
@@Mikasks I do not care if it's citizens or soldiers, a life is a life, and I don't regret the bombing that much. I still have guilt, but there is very little. No one should be killed, and there shouldn't be war in the first place, but civilians were also KILLED during the bombing of pearl harbor AND it's estimated by a history professor that at least 6 Million people were killed by the Japanese. I might be biased and not fully agree with the bombing, but the US did what was better for stopping the conflict first. People were tortured, killed, and forced to ridicule their own country, so you partly wrong. I'm not ashamed, but I am sympathetic. No one should die that horribly.
Azari Brooks I’m sorry but bombing innocent civilians is not the best choice whether its to end conflict or to win one. I’m not sure you quite understand the aftermath of a nuclear bomb. You should research it. You might think the US is doing the bomb for the world peace or something but it really isn’t. The bomb was dropped to show the world how powerful the US is and it worked. And also you said innocent civilians are bombed at pearl harbour? But that’s just a normal bomb isn’t it? It happens all the time, even the US is bombing people right now. Also since when did the US care about Hawaiian citizens? They don’t even have the same right as the mainland US citizen. Im not saying the Japanese were excused for their warcrimes but the bombs didn’t necessarily hit the people behind the war rather it hit innocent people that were also suffering because of Japanese military. So the nuclear bomb only affected people that suffer from the war, the japanese military stopped its attack because they lost a lot of lives that could be forced to do suicide attacks,etc. If you really cared about lives then I’m gonna have to break your delusions but bombing people that were suffering from their government is wrong, what did they do wrong? Why not bomb the people behind the war? Of course, killing the people behind the war is very hard so the US chose to do the shortcut which is to dwindle their human resources. All I’m saying is that there’s a better way to end the war, if the US goal is for world peace. For the record I am from the country that has suffered from the Japanese colonialization, there’s a saying in my country that “350 years of Dutch colonialization is better than 3.5 years of Japan” so I’m definitely not excusing the Japanese for what they did. Also fyi, dutch colonialization was not british style, it was literal slavery and exploitation, nothing for indigenous people, while British still educated their colonies, the dutch did nothing, but my people still said they were better than the Japanese. You can see how I can never excuse the Japanese military for what they did right? But logically speaking and without bias, Japan was hugely wrong but what the US did was also wrong and not the best decision. I’m nitpicking things but you said all lives matter and you’re sympathet but you agree with killing off INNOCENT civillians and wrecking their land to the point that they can’t use it at all for years? So you’re admitting that Japanese lives dont matter even though they didn’t do anything and were used by their own govt to do suicide attacks, massive tax, robbed from their belongings and land. The Japanese miltary were prosperous but the people were not. In a way, they were colonized by their own country but you still agree that they get bombed? That’s the same thing as agreeing to bomb the colonized countries to “end the war” lmao.
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@Chihusky 419 In the early days of TH-cam creators didn't make any money. It was just a place to upload videos. Then they added AdSense monetization which means creators can get a cut of the ad profits. So the main way to make money on TH-cam is to have ads on your videos. There are other ways to generate revenue but that's what caused the shift you noticed.
9:37 one thing that really surprises me about "the history of japan i guess" was how the creator didn't include that the u.s. let the emperor continue to be emperor. if the u.s. had decided to remove him then things would have gone VERY differently
The alternative was mainland invasion, and that would have cost a *significant* amount of more lives. Besides, we did ask for their formal surrender several times before either bomb was dropped.
@@CyborgRowlet That's because the emperor still hold some "power" and people still respects him. It wouldn't make sense that the U.S. kept the emperor "just because". It would damage the reputation of U.S. in the eyes of Japanese people and cause extremists and loyalists to revolt which would assure conflict, and that is the last thing you want when the Soviets are right at your doorstep with troops on the front-line. So, realistically removing the emperor was not really an option. Unless, you're pretty extreme. Which I'm glad they didn't go that route to cause needless conflict.
Would've loved if the video included Scandinavia but it sadly didn't! Denmark was one of the first countries to establish a connection with Japan following Perry's opening of Japan (after 鎖国), with even one of my relatives being the first consul from Denmark in Japan, "John Henry Duus". His grave is still in Hakodate, Hokkaido today. A lot of the agricultural industry in Hokkaido is based on Denmark too! But I do understand all information is hard to include in a video less than 10 minutes!
@@nvno1943 true af, but I think that the best way is not by imposing. The more organic, the better. If we literally adapt Christ's teachings to our lives, believe me, christians would be so mentaly powerful, nice as hell, super empathic, focused, etc.
Hey! A Christian here :) I totally agree. The westernized American Christianity and the major obsession with the rapture and end times has kind of hindered the organic teachings. Though Jesus' second coming will be happening, many Christians have been focusing more on that than the Savior who is coming and His teachings. The thing about being mentally powerful though, that may be a bit difficult for some. For instance, I have mental health issues; but, Jesus is helping me through it and my issues aren't as bad as before. Jesus says, "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow has enough troubles of it's own" (Matthew 6:34). He also says that the first and greatest commandment is to love God and that the second is like it, to love people (love your neighbor as yourself). I find it depressing when I see fellow Christians "cancelling" each other and not actually paying attention to the Bible when it's literally right there. Sorry that this is kinda long haha. Hope you have a nice day:)
@Ethan Pintar No? He hated Austria and wanted to be a German. He was given german citizenship in Braunschweig. Otherwise he could not run the German Reich, obviously.
AP World Knowledge. To answer your question about "Why Dutch?". Dutch were allowed to trade with japan after the sakoku edict was passed because they were basically the only European country that was more tolerant of religions, especially with trade partners. As a result they went to Japan strictly for business and never tried to suede the Japanese to become Christians. Hence why they were allowed to trade. Thx Ms. Baise
It's surprisingly rare that we get to truly see what people from other countries think of history, especially ones involving America. Please, keep this going!
There’s an American actor named Matthew Perry who is way more famous in the US than the naval officer Matthew Perry and it confused me when I first learned about him in my history class.
He actually served in US Navy’s Africa Squadron (can’t remember the actually name of it, but that might be it). He was a young officer at the time assigned to US ships stopping slaver ships near Africa.
Perry is famous if you paid attention in history class, though most primary school do not dwell much on Japanese history, especially pre-World War 2 history. For example, I didn't know that Japan was allied with America and Britain during World War I until I was grown up. "Warm Water" pertains to Russia's ambitions to get access to ports which would remain navigable in the winter-time, bolstering trade and permitting them to project naval power.
Toyotomi: "And now I'm going to invade Korea and then hopefully China!" bill wurtz: "...He said. And failed. And also died." My friend who's studied Japanese history, after watching that sequence: "That's... not wrong... but entire books have been written about this!!!"
there are all sorts of street interview vids all over youtube where folks ask this question to just average folks in japan... the main answer seems to be...kinda... they were told it happened, but its downplayed A LOT... like...super super super down played on how truly horrifying that massacre was.. .. and there seems to be insistence that the vast majority of the comfort women were prostitutes, not girls stolen or tricked into forced sexual slavery... --- that being said, unlike Germany that is constantly reminded... i think only a handful of higher-ups(read as scapegoats) actually got punished for what happened.. and the most "senior" officers/leaders were kind of pardoned and kept their status.. to set up "good" relations between japan and other countries using their names because the people of japan had a lot of national pride..they would not have followed an outsider... and you can't really keep good relations going if you keep throwing atrocities in their face...so...kinda got swept under the rug for a long time... and 'mostly' keeps being denied to this day..... that's how i understand it, anyway... but i'm not from japan...so...you'd have to take my word vomit with a grain of salt =P
7:34 - lol yep, it was exactly that ridiculous a domino effect After a looooooong history of costly wars amongst each other that ultimately resolved very little for anyone on the continent except establishing a status quo, the nations of Europe got the idea of massive competing international alliances so as to deter any more warmongering from any one nation. After all, no nation would go to war if they knew the cost associated would vastly eclipse any gains they could make, right? It's not the worst theory in the world, but it overlooked some obvious caveats: 1, nations do not always go to war for rational reasons, especially when communication lines are unstable and they're operating on incomplete/false information (Austria-Hungary and Russia come to mind especially,) and 2, being part of an alliance may protect you from your enemies attacking you, but it also obliges you to attack people who you do not consider your enemy in the event of an attack upon your "allied" nation. Thus, because Serbian nationalists attack an Austro-Hungarian Archduke, Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia, Russia declares war on Austria-Hungary, Germany declares war on France (because France is allied to Russia,) and Britain declares war on Germany- all over a war that should never have had any real consequence outside of the Balkans. The rest is history: Germany loses, the WW1 allies demand reparations and that Germany should shoulder the blame for WW1, Germany's currency collapses from untenable crediting, and in that unstable soil, Hitler comes to power. It'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
And the video doesn't even get into the insanity of the internal politics, like how Archduke Ferdinand was one of the main anti-imperialists in the Austrian court and how (ironically) his death let Hötzendorf, one of the leaders of imperialist faction, push through his plans for the subjugation of Serbia. Or how almost every monarch in Europe was related to Queen Victoria in some way, making World War One a family feud that killed millions.
@@GreasusGoldtoothOnlyFans The Queen Victoria thing isn't wrong. Apparently some of the leaders even said something along of the lines of "If Grandma Victoria were still alive she wouldn't have let any of this happen." Probably the BIG thing WW1 did to Europe was really kill off the common "war is glorious" belief. Prior to the war the idea of total war that affected a nation on a complete civil level wasn't really thought to be a thing.
"And they haven't used the bomb yet and they're curious to see if it works so they drop it on Japan." ... "They actually drop two." Americans watching this video: IM SORRYYYYYYYYYY :,((((((
@@yodathehobo6099 It was really bad but it prefented more hen it did damage. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the casualties would be MUCH higher on both sides if they didn't use the bombs. Even after the first bomb the generals refused to surrender.. They didn't really have a choice other then to bomb them. Negotiations probably wouldn't have worked either seeing how the generals didn't surrender even after the first bomb.
I'm shocked that I'm Dutch and have never learned about them going to Japan and actually being let in, lmao. Nice to come here for a Japanese reaction but learn something new about my own country aswell haha! Also I seriously had to look up the tornados that got rid of the mongol fleets that attacked Japan, that's some unique coincidence for Japan to happen twice lmao
from what i learned, it was typhoons, not tornadoes that wiped out the mongol fleets each time they went and tried to invade japan. typhoons are pretty common in east and southeast asia, and idk if it was intentional from the part of the creator but in america, they call typhoons "cyclones" which could be pretty easy to confuse with tornadoes.
Monoma Neito If it makes you feel any better, the governments of all the other countries have done horrific things too. Human beings with power pretty much always do, no matter where they come from.
here in NY we learned about Perry in middle school and twice in high school (once in US history and once in world history). its crazy how low the education standards are in some other parts of the country.
WoWplayer527 I wouldn’t say they are low for that specific reason. Matthew Perry isn’t well known in the U.S. because we tend to get involved in foreign affairs quite often. Matthew Perry was one of many foreign diplomats who didn’t have much affect on the U.S. itself, which is maybe why he isn’t brought up as much.
@@huntywuntybunty Perry introduced the US to the country that it would fight a world war against and drop two atomic bombs on. We would then go on to build a decades long economic and political relationship that affects the lives of every American and Japanese person, although many people are ignorant to that truth due to America's poor education system. He is one of the most important figures in the history of US foreign affairs, especially focusing on US involvement in Asia.
I was so sad when I saw you reacting to America dropping the Atomic Bombs but then you had to make me laugh with that "you're not fine" meme. I'm trying to be empathetic here man!
@@ranivacar Ah yes, he moved his mouth a little bit when seeing that part for half a second, while you could clearly see a discomfort in his face for minutes when talking about the nukes. And it’s not only him that did the same, as other japanese that reacted on this video really didn’t care about that subject until the parts with the nukes.
"This moment is very popular." That's an understatement. I cannot think of a historical event in any media portrayed more than Akechi's betrayal of Nobunaga except stuff from World War II.
A mess that was because of so many treaties and alliances that basically forced countries into a war that many didn't want to do but felt obligated to do.
“The release of atomic energy hasn’t created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one.” - Albert Einstein I hope this video that is shedding light on all humanity’s dark history will only help us to grow and not repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. No nation is without it’s skeletons. I hope the way we are able to do freely communicate and share our stories across the world into different cultures can fight against the instinct that caused wars and violence between nations and people groups, and unite us all in the same message, that despite the different languages spoken, foods eaten, and clothes worn we are all the same in the stories and passions we share to live, laugh, share and show love. Before whatever nationality we are, we are all human that share this planet together. If one thing good came from the internet, it’s it’s ability that closed distances between different cultures to show us the people across the ocean isn’t so different to the person we see in the mirror. History is a lesson for our current generations, let’s try to grow from these past mistakes and move forward. No amount of money or riches will ever replace what was stolen from each person who has been robbed through war, but we can strive not to repeat the mistakes of the past.
just my personal opinion based on my studying of history and what i see happening in real life: History only teaches individuals, for better or for worse. And a crowd is only doomed to repeat it, regardless of how peaceful or how violent the result will be. Peaceful times will inevitably have equal dark times succeeding them, and the vice versa will also happen. People have realized this, we just cant fix it.
You idiots that try to do revisionism on nukes are pathetic. Japan was a rabid criminal empire that was not going to surrender. The US was staring at losing another 400k soldiers to invade the mainland. THAT WAS NOT OKAY. Put yourself into context a bit and ask the right questions before getting into your left wing revisionist guilt crap.
For those that don’t know, the term kamikaze derives from ‘divine wind’, which is a reference to the storms that helped quell the Mongolian invasions of Tsushima. It’s why he was joking by saying it was Tornados that stopped the mongols.
I am a Mexican and I know about perry he participated in the war against Mexico too in the first and second battles of tabasco of 1846 and 1847 he was the commander of the "gunboats". He as well attacked Veracruz under the command of "old fuss" Winfield Scott, whom took the capital of Mexico.
@@nukesakuji Yeah, let's hope those are the only two atomic bombs ever used in war, humans have done enough awful things too each other throughout history. Ugh, I remember in High School the final for my world history class involved a written prompt where we had to support or refute the use of those bombs in WWII. That was an awful test.
@@seangoldman6833 idk which is worse, mine which was to essentially debate bout slavery where we were placed randomly into either confederate or the union group. OR yours. Fuck
The dropping of the atom bombs wasn't even what made the Japanese surrender. It was the invasion of the Soviets into Manchuria. US firebombings on Japanese cities killed many more people than the atom bombs. The Emperor was ultimately concerned about the Soviets making Japan communist. The only reason why the US dropped the bombs was to flex on the Soviet Union; the Soviets had doubted that the atom bomb would work. foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/ E: that being said, I don't really think there should be too much crying over Japan - the Japanese empire was ridiculously brutal and killed millions. Some of the shit they did would make Hitler blush. A more long-form podcast on the rise and fall of imperial japan: www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-62-supernova-in-the-east-i/
"That's all where it started?" Yes. World War 1 is the result of years (or maybe even decades) of tension in Europe and the breakout was a chain reaction. If someone doesn't know European history that could be surprising, but it wasn't the first time something like that happened in Europe (and it wasn't even the last, because we also got WW2). If you are interested, there is plenty of information about history of Europe on Wikipedia and on the Internet in general. It is REALLY fascinating!
i gave up on learning ww1. too many dark stuff like passchendale (i hope im spelling that right) and complicated relations all rooting from a pointless political fisticuffs exchange. ww2 is a bit more easier to learn.
i gave up on learning ww1. too many dark stuff like passchendale (i hope im spelling that right) and complicated relations all rooting from a pointless political fisticuffs exchange. ww2 is a bit more easier to learn.
in school during the 90s perry is brought up briefly, if at all. We focused on the massive political divide within the united states during that time (1840s-1860s). The annex of texas. The Mexican-American war, and the American Civil War. Perry would have been brought up due to his involvement in the war of 1812 and Mexican-American war, but not in regards to the Convention of Kanagawa. Though the Kanagawa Treaty is more imporant to japanese history, its not as important to american history considering the country altering events within the US occuring at the time.
I learned about perry from Potential history (great history shitpost channel) i dont remember hearing commodore perry's name in class though. now that im typing this i remember more of history watching youtube videos then history class.
American nerd here: Yeah, Perry isn't super well known. I only know about him because I went nuts on the studying thing. As to WW1: Yup, the European powers at the time had been formed by Napoleon's empire and the alliances that were founded because of it. Austria's Archduke Ferdinand was the heir presumptive and assassinated which due to the already boiling tensions caused the start of the war. Tldr: He was killed by a Serbian revolutionary group that essentially wanted nearby areas to be able to unify into Serbia so Austria declared war on Serbia, and because of the varying alliances basically all of europe got dragged into the conflict. Then the Lusitania was sunk by German U boats (An English Cruise liner) and it was carrying American passengers. Understandably this caused the US-German relations to start breaking down and it was only a matter of time before the US entered the war.
They do teach about Matthew Perry in most American/World history classes, but most Americans eventually forget about that stuff. And even then they didn't spend a lot of time on him. So yeah, most Americans don't know who he is even though they probably were taught about him at some point in their lives.
I wouldn't say it's in most American/World History classes because I took two (moved high schools and the new one wouldn't accept all of my courses from the first one) in two very different parts of the country and never learned about Japanese isolationism and America forcing it to reopen. I'm sure it's taught at some schools, but not most.
I saw a video that interviewed young Japanese people and apparently they don’t really learn that much about it. They touch on it a little but not in great detail. The older generation even said young people today don’t really know their history, what they themselves lived through.
@@Snakeheart33 Yeah I love Ratchet and Clank as well! I heard about those mangas so I'll check them out my dude but yeah good to know that this game reaches a wide audience of people all over the world :)
"and Jesus" "Of course" I'm dead 😂 Also Russia had no access to a warm water port for a while. They still might not. If they do it's either thru China or Turkey
I am an U.S. born college student in the United States and I thought it might be interesting to touch on the subject of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. For a long time, many believed that dropping the bombs was necessary to save American lives since, if they got Japan to surrender, then the U.S. would not have had to conduct a land-invasion of Japan. Nowadays we are taught that the dropping of the bombs by the U.S. was very morally questionable. Many young people in the U.S. think that the bombs should not have been dropped on Japan, and are fairly apologetic about the issue. In my college coursework, we're taught to look at it as morally ambiguous, and the bombs are generally considered to be a dark time in U.S. history. It's interesting to see that Japan and the United States have turned from adversaries to allies and I honestly am grateful for that friendship.
It's always morally questionable, but there was also inner conflict within the Japanese government itself that makes it morally ambiguous. Had it played out, the war may have ended fairly soon anyway due to pressure from Russia. On the other hand, there were those with the idea that Japan should fight down to the last man. The bombs may have ultimately been the best solution, but it will always be a controversial decision.
The guy who made that video was right in that the American government wanted to test the new weapon they developed rather than it being used to defeat Japan as the Japanese were already on the verge of surrendering when the Soviet Union started to devote their attention east after fucking up Germany real good.
I suspect the decision to bomb Japan was more down to the US wanting Japan to surrender to them rather than the Soviet Union. There is no way Japan could have survived war alone. It was surrounded just as Britain had been in 1940, and Britain only survived because it was on the same side as the Soviets once Barbarossa kicked off. Had Hitler not backstabbed the Soviets, history could have played out very differently. Japan stood no chance against the entire allied navies blockading and shelling them for a prolonged period. Japan is very poor in many natural resources, and would have ran out of oil and steel sooner or later.
9:16 the way he sharply inhales at the atomic bomb part AND he edits the footage in black and white and sets sad music over it....*sweats nervously in American*
yeah basically some dude's hand slipped on the trigger and he shot archduke franz ferdinand oops and it happened that he was from a serbian radical group but basically europe was bored of spreading christianity around anyways and said yeah war will carry the economy lol now we just need an excuse *many historical inaccuracies on the death of archduke but its basically what happened
All those deaths from Verdun, Gallipoli and Passchendale (i hope im spelling that right) all because of an opportunity to get the economy going History's biggest bruh moment until Operation Market Garden.
@@ickochi Yuki Mikano 7 seconds ago (edited) Every country did something bad during the war, nobody was innocent, it's a war. I just meant THAT part of the video.
Not gonna lie, I'm an American and I had a similar expression when the nukes came up. I know it was the quickest way to end the war, but it was still horrible
Could you do a video on your experience on learning about Japanese Peruvians or Japanese Brazilians? When people think of the west, they only think about the US and Canada but never Latin America but there are a lot of Japanese Brazilians.
I love how surprised you were at how fucked up the start of WW1 was, lol. You should see his "history of the world," it's pretty incredible. It was funny how shocked you were at how it ended, but is there any major history of Japan after about 1990? (I honestly don't know)
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actually most americans have no idea who perry is. weird how he’s super well known in japan lol.
I guess it's because in America he's just one of many ....but in Japan he's one of a few 🤔 I don't know if that made sense
@@mock15halo most of the Japanese peoples names I know are just people who work at Nintendo
@@mock15halo oh, hideki tojo must not be important.
I knew there was a specific person involved, but I couldn't remember his name until he said it.
He didn’t really do anything special except opening Japan.
him: “oh, Perry right? there he is”
me, an american: *who*
Its perryy..... Perry the platypus😂🤣😉
I'm pretty sure the whole event happened around the time of the US civil war but I might be wrong
I remember him being one question on a quiz in high school u.s. history
I mean to be fair, he's just some guy who followed the gunboat diplomacy of the government to USA citizens... To the Japanese, he's the guy who basically started their second civil war.
In my 7th grade History class our teacher basically just said "So japan was closed, until some dude named Perry came in with a bunch of guns and said 'hey open up the country or we will invade you and have another island'"
The warm water thing had to do with Russia wanting ports that are not frozen over part of the year and hopefully connected to a big ocean, it's been a constant problem.
I see! thank you for the commemt! I learned a new thing!🙇
*just want some liquid ice for once*
Cybernaut. That’s why they wanted Crimea so bad
@@juraicgamer4408 True, even today the quest for warm water goes on. I mean, ports still matter both for trade and military so.
@@cartoonsd3289 boneless ice
The only "Perry" Americans know is Perry The Platypus
Pretty much
nah, matthew perry
Doobi doobi dooba
Doobi doobi dooba
PERRRRRRYYY
Joe Perry, lead guitarist for Aerosmith.
@@davidbodemann5678 LIL BOMBER!!!
Don't trust edited comments
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I did a project in school where we had to dress up as a person from history and bring a food relating to them. I chose Matthew perry but I didn't have materials to dress like him so I just wore red white and blue with a piece of paper that said "Matthew Perry" on it and brought some Pocky. Got full credit.
omg I literally laughed out loud😂😂😂
Great job😂😂😂👍👍👍
Nah fam, that sounds like extra credit material to me.
notbob555 no amount of credits can prove how awesome that was
Like an absolute boss lol
Me an american watching the nuke part:
*awkwardness*
Watching any kind of post-19th-century-history as a German:
*also awkward*
You always know it's coming up _somewhere_
@@kathrinbeckmann6530 At least most of the hard feelings from WW2 have kind of passed now, especially since new generations have taken over.
To be fair, we didn't just drop the bombs on Japan b/c we were "curious if they worked". We were at war and Japan was geared up to defend the home islands to the last man. As welll as civlians killing themselves in the event of being conquered. Just look up Okinawa. Numbers-wise, it was either the 400,000 in Hiroshima/Nagasaki or the 1,000,000+ projected casualties of an invasion, many of them our own troops.
@@nekoqueen5524 I'd say all hard feelings have passed, at least on the US side (which is the one I can speak to). It was 90 years ago and we've been friends again for most of that.
@@AlleluiaElizabeth That's what I was saying as well
Japan: Sorry for the invasion.
China, Korea: What about the massacre?
Japan: What massacre?
Lol
There is No War in Ba Sing Se
@@DavidCruickshank That Avatar reference tho.
This made me laugh way too hard
China and korea= slave
The Dutch were most sensible choice for the Japanese back then, as it was the most tolerant (or least intolerant) European country in religious matters. Japanese authorities knew the dutch wouldn't try to convert them into christianity.
Interesting! Now I know thanks!
they also had spices too
tricksor who like to buy the spices
I always thought it was the Portuguese, but maybe I am confusing them with being the first to trade and not the only ones allowed after isolationism.
@@devincook1396 The Portuguese were indeed the first ones, but they were extremely proselytist (like the Spanish), so they were kicked out. The Dutch were not, and their influence was so great that there's a word for modern science (in that era), which was rangaku (蘭学). The ran comes from the Japanese word for the Netherlands, so it literally means "Dutch studies".
I love how Japan didn't give two shits about what the Emperor was doing half the time
If Europe would've been like that with the pope. I wonder how different everything would have turned out to be.
We still don't, to be honest, and he really doesn't do much anyway. It's pretty much the prime minister running the country. Just like the queen of England, the emperor is just a symbol.
@@xSG1969x same for us swedes, our king is just there doing his own thing whatever that is 😂 but we stan haha. we have our prime minister and the blocks that runs the show.
@@torahibiki though we were also kinda like that with our "Holy Roman Emperor of German Nation". He kinda existed and looked fabulous, but other than calling the army to defend against outsiders he had no real power in the later stages of the empire (though usually the person elected as emperor was a powerful lord in his own right)
@@boahkeinbockmehr correct me if am wrong. But wasn't the holy Roman emperor, at one point or another, a king of one of the regional kingdoms that sized power by succession, in some cases bloody-full on war successions, and became emperor after tge pope in Italy recognize him at such? Like Otto or sigismund?
So everything was leading to Japan making the Nintendo... A master plan
And Dragonball!
And Hentai!
@@id30i18 GIRUGAMESH
Worth.
It was all about making hentai
When he said "warm water" they were looking for warm water ports. Much of Russias coast line is in very cold water and even permafrost.
Better yet, warm water ports that don't freeze over for half the year.
I wasn't going to look into this 'til I saw your comment. Thank you, Grugg
That is a good comment.
My HS history teacher said "Russia is always trying to get out" because they are a very large country that historically had no access to ports they could easily use year round.
Nowadays they have the Kaliningrad exclave near Poland, but that's only one.
@@rfmerrill There's also Vladivostok. But, it's super far from Moscow. And Sevastapol, but that port is restricted by Turkey's control of the Bosporus.
The Dutch were still allowed to trade on Dejima because they weren’t interested in spreading a foreign religion in Japan and were just there to make money
Fun little fact that has become more populat resently. Part of why the Dutch retained good relations with Japan involved the English Samurai "William Adams" who worked for the Dutch before the Shogun decided he wanted him to stay. I'm fairly certain this was some time before the country was closed, but that part at least was facilitated in-part by his influence.
Here's a letter he wrote around the time;
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British Rick I know of him. He became one of the first western samurai together with his first mate. There weren’t that many men from the west allowed the honor to follow in their footsteps
lolol I only know that the dutch traded with Japan from samurai champloo
Typical dutch - israel of the western europe. "we are here to make the money"
Name Surname We’re not known as being greedy for nothing ;)
And then, through Anime, it has almost taken over the world.
I think PlayStation and Nintendo is more popular then animes.
Found the anime PFP. That was quick.
I’d rather anime take over the world rather than crap content kpop
@@RavencoreLZR absolute legend.
As a person that living in westernized 3rd world country i think tasting a bit of Japanese culture isn't so terrible.
Honestly a bit shocked you never learned about the mongol invasions of Japan. The Mongols tried to invade Japan in 1274 but while on sea a typhoon hit the fleet and destroyed about 1/3rd of the ships carrying roughly 13.000 men who all drowned. 7 Years later the mongols tried again with an even larger fleet reportedly carrying 140.000 soldiers, whereas Japan only had 40.000 defenders at the time. This fleet was again decimated by a typhoon that killed half of the Mongol army at sea, most of those that did make it to shore were easily killed by the Japanese defenders. The Japanese obviously attributed these miracles to their gods and named the typhoons "divine wind" or Kamikaze 神風. As one of Japan's greatest moments in history (beating the Mongols is a feat only few could list) I really thought it would be thought to everyone. Maybe it's forgotten because of the dark re-purposing of the word kamikaze during WW2. I think that's sad since 神風 has a much better history than what we mostly remember now.
I think Bill Wurtz goes over that briefly in the "history of the world" video.
I also didn't know that story about the typhoons. It's actually fascinating and it makes sense that we attributed them to the gods. If it had happened only once, fine, but twice is just insane.
I heard a statistic once that the second Mongol invasion of Japan was the world's largest naval invasion in history.
Easily defeated by the Japanese is a HUGE stretch. The Mongols decimated the Japanese, and they barely defeated the invaders. The typhoons were literally the divine wind, because they 100% saved japan.
@@aldyn1647 The reason these typhoons easily destroyed the Mongol fleet is because the Mongols were impatient and used non-seaworthy vessels to cross the ocean. Naval warfare is not their strong point.
the look on his face when the A-Bomb dropped :(
you only have to visit hiroshima to understand what an incredible country/culture japan is, you would never know it happened if you were passing through town and there was no monuments there to make you aware of it
eddy L oh stop it. He wasn’t making a political commentary, he was watching a video. Just enjoy it or go away.
@@cbtowers4841 But it shows the Japanese self-image. They never wholeheartedly apologized for the crimes against Koreans and Chinese, they didn't even admit every crime that happened.
Yes, you're allowed to mourne the losses in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but ignoring your own responsibility in this is very hypocritical.
@@TheYoshi463 do europeans and other races ever apologize for the people they fuck over ?
@@monogramadikt5971 No lmfao
Tokugawa: "hey, you can't entering my country"
Dutch: "I just trade here. No Jesus, I promise"
Tokugawa: "okay"
Me inviting my catholic family members to my potluck but only if they stop trying to convert me
🇯🇵 "Alright, leave! All of you!"
🇷🇺🇵🇹🇪🇦🇩🇪🇬🇧🇫🇷🇦🇹
🇳🇱
🇯🇵: "Except for you, you stay"
🇳🇱: "😃"
didnt Portugal try spreading Catholicism to them
@@VivaCristoRei9 Are you trying to say that the Dutch are from Portugal?
I wonder it was the Dutch Kingdom or the first mega corporation VOC based on Dutch?
How shocked he was when he found out about world war 1 kinda surprised me because everyone in America is taught about how dumb it was and how it was non-sensible
It seems dumb when people say the war began because some noble got shot in the head.
The truth is that WW1 conflicts came escalating through history and intensified a lot during the formation of national state territories as the countries we know of today.
Differences between England and France lead to the american independence and the french revolution just as an example.
The assassination of a prince was the official reason to start a conflict that was already waiting to happen
@@RadeticDaniel But at the same time simplifying something even as big as ww1 as "inevitable" is tricky business. Reality is that the war started because of the assassination. If Princip hadnt pulled that trigger, we might be living in a different world. If a nuclear exchanged had occurred during the cold war, would we today be saying it was inevitable given the state of the world in the 60s and 70s? I think history unfolds in more chaotic ways than we are comfortable with.
@@thesecondwolf1 good point on the cold war... reminds me of the saying "hindsight is 20/20".
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Maybe a better way is to put the assassination as a catalyst. It made sure to accelerate a reaction, despite what might've happened without it.
@@RadeticDaniel Yea, it was probably one of many possible events that could have triggered an already very likely conflict.
@@thesecondwolf1 well most of history channel in yt said even without assasination the war will broke out eventually
OPEN THE COUNTRY,
STOP HAVING IT BE CLOSED.
Aight amma head out
@@masternobody1896 big gun with huge ship
(Democratic gun)
THAT WAS MY FAV PART HAHAHA
@@RayneShunner oi
@@actualgarbage8549 oi
Americans: *drop the first bomb*
Shun: *triggered*
TH-cam: "Let's play Raid: Shadow Legends!"
Good thing I have adblock
Same
@@thetrollmaster4485 wut
@@thetrollmaster4485 how
"They actually dropped two" him: *dies inside*
Me, an American: _[sweating intensifies]_
Lets all ignore the fact that Japan of the time were allies with the -freaking Nazis.-
@@ozkan576 but no reason to nuke them. Acc. to the vid ofcourse. I don't really know
@@kobi-wanaenobi7080 I mean, war is war. I'm not saying it's okay to wipe out entire cities, I'm saying people ignore everything the Japanese did in for example China during WW2.
The pain in his eyes just hurts
"Is this guy famous outside of Japan"? Bro I live in America and I don't even know who he is.
Perry was mentioned in our textbook in middle school but we never went over it. There's a lot of stuff that had been in our textbook that kinda just never got discussed (there was also a shit ton that was left out of the textbook SO NO ONE WINS)
I only knew of Perry because of the anime Hetalia
@@AbsorbicAcid lol same
Go watch the musical "Pacific Overtures" to give you a hint of the history (but, forewarned, it IS a musical)
i guess i had a good teacher in 8th grade cuz we learned about him.
Japanese culture is so fascinating
It's so nice to hear that! thank you!
The way the government had so many changes and the land changes and the way Japan originally used a Chinese alphabet and was kind of based from China is weird to think about but so cool at the same time! After this stupid Corona is over I would love to go see Tokyo
A lot of Americans hate Japanese because of WW2 and all that but I dont see why, just like Osama we shouldn’t hate everyone because of one person or group’s actions, Japan was Imperial Japan then and it’s different now.
Also the dutch because they included Japan in the spice trade which Japan could not originally access because 1. The Dutch controlled the oceans in the center of the spice trade and 2. They were too far away. Also yes that American guy is famous (ish) here. His name is Commodore Matthew Perry
SHUNchan what if you did some videos comparing Japanese and American youth culture
"He put thousands of years of Japan history into just 8 minutes!"
Wait till you see version 2.
Version 2? Is bill kurgz making another Japan history video?
@@Neko-san I was referring to history of the entire world i guess
Dutch didn’t try to sell Jesus, so they let them come in and trade.
Dutch Knocks on Japans door*
Dutch: Hello would you like to hear the great word fro-
Japan: No thank you, we are fine.
Dutch: Would you like to buy our cookies and spices ?
Japan: Yea! Sell that over their though please.
America Knocks on Japans door*
Perry: Hey we got weapons and God to sell. I don't have much time, now i got some buddies coming over and they want shipments of your best tea. And we-
Japan : No thank you, please leave
Perry: Oh you think you have a choice ? You see those boats over there ?
@@frostywasp1743 lol
I think it was more on the lines of "Hey! We have Jesus too, just saying... If you want it, that is. No? Okay.". While spain and portugal was more like "SEE THIS!? THIS IS JESUS. EMBRACE IT! EMBRACE IT NOW OR WE'LL END YOU."
@@frostywasp1743 Don´t forget mayonaise, I´m happy the Dutch shared that. Now okonomiyaki excists because of it
Its was the Portugueses that first reached Japan. It was also the Portuguese who introduced the gunpower and Nagasaki was a city founded by them. The Dutch people came later
"Why Dutch?"
Because the Dutch didn't try to force their religion on Japan like other Christian nations did, like the Spanish and Portuguese. That's why only the Dutch were allowed to continue trading with Japan. But only in that one location.
There was only Portugal..
@@agathoklesmartinios8414 Back to killing people just for their religions again? I thought we knew how that usually turns out
@@heyimsteven5311 Well, what else do you do with a group of people agitating against everything traditional in their country, start vandalising shrines and temples, destablising society to impose Christianity on everyone (AKA the usual modus operandi for Christian conversion of a country) all that stuff? It wasn't the shogunate who started that in Japan, it was the Kirishitan who brought it upon themselves. Christianity has been a force of evil and destruction wherever it goes and continues to be that to this day in India, Africa, South America, and other places, where missionaries are still clamouring to get indigenous peoples into their claws, tear their traditions, language, culture, etc. asunder and impose their own religion upon them. Christianity is violence. Christianity is colonisation. And if you don't fight back and destroy it, it that poison will overtake and infect you.
@@agathoklesmartinios8414 I'm not saying ignore radicalist I'm simply saying removing a whole group of people just for their beliefs is ignorant as fuck and if you can't see that then you're basically doing the same to those radical Christians as they're trying to do to others. "Convert them to our side or eliminate them"
@@agathoklesmartinios8414 For one, anyone can do anything in the name of someone else. The only thing that is Christian is the Bible, if you are not informing your ideas of Christianity on the Bible then I have a bridge to sell you in the name of Christianity. For purchasing it you will be rewarded the rank of saint according to me.
Christianity has done a great deal of good and it always annoys me when people lay all the evil and none of the good. The evil of men has existed throughout the centuries, it is uniform throughout history. Men of power have always acted the same way. I'm sorry you have been deceived into believing Christianity is the source of corrupt power. The Cyrillic alphabet, which brought literacy to Slavic nations, the foundations of Physics, and the foundation of medicine in the Abbasid Caliphate were developed by ardent Christians. Not only was Newton the most gung-ho Christian physicist of all time, you would be hard pressed to find a scientific unit of notation that does not bear a Christian's name. Christian Syriac was an important language of medicine in the Abbasid Caliphate, and Christians from the school of Nisbis, the academy of Gondishapur, and the European Galen were instrumental in the early disciplines of medicine.
He has another video which I recommend called “the history of the entire world, I guess”. It’s in the same style except it’s the history of everything.
That sounds great! Thank you for your suggestion!☺
@dfdsf sdadad @best_country_police
@@SHUNchanjp This is something I'd be interested in.
That Perry dude is skimped over in our history class quicker than the possible side effects in pharmaceutical commercials.
Not true.
@@lun_r very true
@@lun_r SEASDDRTGD
I was taught that is was the announcement that America had joined the world stage as an equal for the first time. Teddy Roosevelt made sure to stop future Spanish-American War type conflicts and placed the sphere of influence over the Western Hemisphere on solid footing. The street down from me is Perry St. I bet every large city around you has a Perry St.
Considering the miraculously quick industrialization of Japan and their conflict with Russia...this stop of the Great White Fleet was of vital importance to preserve American fueling stations in the Pacific.
Basic highschool history, even for a mediocre student like me. I'm convinced all the kids that game after me divided their lives smoking pot and playing video games.
@@lun_r i’ve never heard of this dude till this video thank you for telling abt it tho. my hs ain’t tell me shit abt this
Shun: "Perry, right? Is this guy famous outside Japan?"
Me, an American: ... Perry the Platypus?
Military man shows up: A sailor?
Puts on Admiral cap: Admiral Perry!?
American here over the age of 20... Who the f is Perry the Platypus?
@@EnteIexia ok boomer
@@EnteIexia He's a furry little flatfoot
Who'll never flinch from afraid
He's got more than just mad skill
He's got a beaver tail and a bill
And the women swoon whenever they hear him say...
He's Perry
Perry the Platypus
Matthew Perry.
The actor from FRIENDS who played Chandler... but also NOT him, another Matthew Perry who actually existed.
Dutch was really good a business, and they weren’t trying to force everyone to convert to their religion, which made them really popular in Asian countries. Japan of course only trades with them, and there’s a story where all the foreign countries try to trade with China, but all refused to bow to the Chinese emperor, except for the Dutch ambassador, who said “we are here for business, not some stupid pride”.
At some point they actually spreading religion, like in north Sumatra when they send a German guy to turn Batak people into Protestantism so they can be more "civilized" and controlled, not even contact with Arab traders or Aceh and Malay sultanate conquest/subjugation able to make Batak people convert to Islam but a single German dude send by them able to did it.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684
South Africa, Suriname, Netherlands Antilles and especially Indonesia are black pages in Dutch history.
But looking at the whole history, the Dutch weren't that bad compared with England, Spain or Portugal.
@@PieterPatrick Portugal wasn't that bad either. Most probably Spaniards, the French and the Britons were the most cruel
We just wanted spices, which is funny, because most dutch cooking is bland as fuck.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 it seems they were spreading religion through its colonies, but they knew well who they were colonizing and who they were doing business with.
Europe to Japan: Christianity is what you need
The Dutch republic to Japan: we got cool shit, wanna buy?
That part of history in a nutshell
Dutch got weed, that's the truth 😂
I wish the Dutch were that "cool" to us in South Africa. Instead it went more like : that's a nice peice of land, here's some useless ish and get the hell out. We run this ish now. Then they took over and got karma'd by the Brits but they weren't really that kind to the natives either. Tough times.
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Japan to Christianity: "You believe in Jesus? I believe it's time to separate your head from your body."
この動画、超高速で初めて見た時びっくりしました！笑 でも本当によくまとまっていると思います！
yooo, my boy Shogo
Hi! Dutch person here ^^ the reason Dutch people were still allowed to trade was because we were the only country that wasn't interested in coverting the Japanese into Christians. We really only wanted to trade and because we had such a good trading system with the rest of the world, Japan was like "Okay sure!" But to keep the influence of the west to a minimum, we were only allowed to visit Dejima :)
A lot of educated Japanese learned science and philosophy and mathematics from you guys. Meanwhile the Portuguese were more interested in spreading Catholicism so I guess Dutch trade was more profitable for japan than with the portugese
Wow what you said is exactly what I learned in school growing up in Japan.and it’s kinda rare for two different countries to learn the history from exactly the same historical perspectives.
Isnt the netherlands pretty atheistic tho? I would understand
@@hopelove897 We are now. We used to be Christian. And before that we were pagan. We still have a lot of Christians in our country through, divided into Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox Protestant... we even have a Biblebelt full of fanatics.
@@ForestHag As a christian l agree that the imposition is not neccesary, because its so inorganic. The more organic the better. I know genuinely that the teachings of Christ can change the world for the better and minimize suffering at its lowest point, its just that its definitively not well preached. Greetings from Cusco, Peru, you really have a beautiful country
Me, an American, when Shun reaches the part about the creation of the atomic bomb: _[sweating intensifies]_
Edit: ...Oh dear. It might not be the best idea to look at the replies here, but if you do, get yourself some popcorn
yeah its definitely a gray area. Really sucks, even though Japan did bad stuff. Americans defiantly know that the atomic bomb was way too much overkill.
America still helped Japan recover, but still doesn't fix the relationship. I think many Americans really like japan because of Japanese cutlture, but the relationship still to this day is kinda low key bad.
But America government still helps japan against China and North Korea in an attempt to be chill.
@@ben69028 overkill is definetly not what it was. The other option was to invade the Japanese islands, where the conservative estimate of casulaties of American forces was 1,000,000. So lets do some math here. 2 bombs, or 1,000,000 Americans? Wasnt really a hard choice for us. Sucks for the Japanese, but thats war for ya bud.
@@iamasicksickman it's not about numbers but people who suffers, yes the atom bom way more fast and easy. But america can just do diplomatic approach. No casualties or anything. If you things this is silly think Japanese have little support and a little push will make them surrender.
Car Wash Life As an American it was complete overkill, one a-bomb was enough, two was overkill.
@@Ghost.ofaStag.1983 I can agree with that
I’m american and would have loved something like this as a 10-12 year old for U.S. history before getting into years of learning the details.
the creator was going to make something about america but he was too biased in his knowledge. He knew too much about one thing not enough about others so he picked japan instead because it was a country he could do blind without his own thoughts on it.
yeah but US history is only 250 years that'd be like a 30 second vid for this guy
Same
I would have actually paid attention in school if they showed us stuff like this.
Sally Fowler yeah it’s short as shit, unless you were to get deep into Native American history
"Monkey fun" is a reference to 猿楽 (Sarugaku), a form of theater that was very popular in the 11th-14th centuries in Japan. The kanji *can* be translated to "monkey fun," though I *think* "monkey music" is more accurate (when the second kanji is pronounced "gaku," it means "music," but other times it can mean "fun"). Note: I am not Japanese, so my analysis of the kanji might be wrong.
yup
it’s part of 「楽しい」”fun”
and also 「音楽」”music”
kanji is weird
I immediately see the kanji as music 💕 you right
Been looking for this comment every reaction vid!!! *thank you*
Yeah, I was kinda surprised that he stopped around the 1980s for Japan. Even though there is a ton of modern history after that.
Actually, not much of a big change inJapan since the 80s, though. No big wars or anything. maybe the 2011 earthquake is the only major event after the 80s.
I think he was taking a jab at anime or something.
My guess is that it stopped there because he reached the point of history that people watching this video can actually recollect themselves. Or at least are much more aware of.
Apparently this video took him 14 weeks to make, so it could be that he just reached his personal creative limit >>
Its a matter of pacing. Explaining everything thats happened since then would be far slower paced and insignificant compared to everything before it.
Many Americans would say something along the lines of "I know Japan was closed once" in regards to Perry. Many of us Americans don't even know why we have such a big Navy. When we were having our civil war, we developed some of the first warship/gunboats that had more powerful steam engines and started to armor up the boats. After these American civil boat battles, the way water fights are handled was forever changed. This basically showed our government and many others that having a big and power Navy is a requirement for survival. That made the US's navy start going global and make it's way to Japan. Definitely interesting stuff and I'm not even a boat guy haha.
The first modern Japanese naval vessel, an ironclad, was actually made from a Confederate Navy boat that ended up being sold off post-war
It had a sister ship as well, also turned into an ironclad; though I don’t recall who bought it, some European nation I think, *maybe* a Baltic nation
"Speak softly and carry a big stick" thats why we have a big navy
The US has a big navy because trade has always been a major part of our economy, and a navy is how you protect your merchant vessels and guarantee open shipping lanes. Also, a lack of a large navy bit us in the backside in the past. There were the Barbary pirates shortly after the US gained its independence, the British seizing ships and kidnapping American sailors in the lead up to the War of 1812, and the fact that during the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 the Royal Navy could pretty much sail up and down our coast at will and attack us. By the end of WWII the US had a massive fleet, was easily the wealthiest nation in the world, and was trading with so many nations around the world that it just decided to step up and make sure pretty much all of the shipping lanes would remain open and safe. It's also a rather effective way to project power around the world.
Civil War also saw the first known use of a submarine sinking a ship. Yes there were submarines in the Civil War, very few and very dangerous to be in. Learned about it while in the Navy that a Confederate submarine sank a Union ship.
@@lrnec13 dammm
Not sure if somebody has already answered this, but given the time period, "monkey fun" is probably sarugaku (猿楽), the precursor of Noh theater.
I like how he literally translated each kanji 😂
Ah, I see.
I was honestly a bit concerned thanks for helping.
Fun fact, the Japanese wrote the first novel....ever. Lady Murasaki wrote this during the Heian period of Japan. Also, she helped develop written Japanese.
The first piece of long-form fiction, probably.
One time I wrote “Tyler Perry opened Japan” on an essay
what a mad lad
"Madea goes to Kanagawa"
When it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year...
@@ohifonlyx33 That's Matthew Perry.
Lmao nice
*USA enters*
Japanese guy: (ʘ̆ʚʘ̆)
Elizabeth?
@@BushidoBrownSama *holds up sign*
The thing that surprised me the most was the fact you could tell in advance he'll mention Perry, and when he talked about World War 1 you were surprised it started with the assassination of the Austro-Hungarian crown prince, while in the west (Especially Europe) the case is the *exact* opposite. Everyone who learned some history knows what started World War 1 but I don't think I even know Americans who know who Perry is.
Really liked the video! Keep it up :D
Yeah I have no clue who Perry is lol
I'm also American, and I can confirm that I've never heard of Perry
@@JetFalcon710 Am I the only one who learned about Perry?
@@BlackBloodCombatClub Probably
Bonzi Buddy I did too. But it’s not hard to imagine that most people forgot about him. He didn’t figure heavily into US history.
Notice the shame he expresses when Japan’s colonialism/militarism is mentioned, it’s interesting
Americans should be ashamed
@@elt2773 Why?
Dillard M. DeMoss because they dropped THE bomb. Although Japan’s war crime is bigger than Germany and probably one of the most sadistic military in WW2, dropping a bomb on innocent japanese civilians is a huge no no. Still tho, in war, everyone is wrong, that’s why its stupid.
@@Mikasks I do not care if it's citizens or soldiers, a life is a life, and I don't regret the bombing that much. I still have guilt, but there is very little. No one should be killed, and there shouldn't be war in the first place, but civilians were also KILLED during the bombing of pearl harbor AND it's estimated by a history professor that at least 6 Million people were killed by the Japanese. I might be biased and not fully agree with the bombing, but the US did what was better for stopping the conflict first. People were tortured, killed, and forced to ridicule their own country, so you partly wrong. I'm not ashamed, but I am sympathetic. No one should die that horribly.
Azari Brooks I’m sorry but bombing innocent civilians is not the best choice whether its to end conflict or to win one. I’m not sure you quite understand the aftermath of a nuclear bomb. You should research it. You might think the US is doing the bomb for the world peace or something but it really isn’t. The bomb was dropped to show the world how powerful the US is and it worked. And also you said innocent civilians are bombed at pearl harbour? But that’s just a normal bomb isn’t it? It happens all the time, even the US is bombing people right now. Also since when did the US care about Hawaiian citizens? They don’t even have the same right as the mainland US citizen.
Im not saying the Japanese were excused for their warcrimes but the bombs didn’t necessarily hit the people behind the war rather it hit innocent people that were also suffering because of Japanese military. So the nuclear bomb only affected people that suffer from the war, the japanese military stopped its attack because they lost a lot of lives that could be forced to do suicide attacks,etc. If you really cared about lives then I’m gonna have to break your delusions but bombing people that were suffering from their government is wrong, what did they do wrong? Why not bomb the people behind the war? Of course, killing the people behind the war is very hard so the US chose to do the shortcut which is to dwindle their human resources. All I’m saying is that there’s a better way to end the war, if the US goal is for world peace.
For the record I am from the country that has suffered from the Japanese colonialization, there’s a saying in my country that “350 years of Dutch colonialization is better than 3.5 years of Japan” so I’m definitely not excusing the Japanese for what they did. Also fyi, dutch colonialization was not british style, it was literal slavery and exploitation, nothing for indigenous people, while British still educated their colonies, the dutch did nothing, but my people still said they were better than the Japanese. You can see how I can never excuse the Japanese military for what they did right? But logically speaking and without bias, Japan was hugely wrong but what the US did was also wrong and not the best decision.
I’m nitpicking things but you said all lives matter and you’re sympathet but you agree with killing off INNOCENT civillians and wrecking their land to the point that they can’t use it at all for years? So you’re admitting that Japanese lives dont matter even though they didn’t do anything and were used by their own govt to do suicide attacks, massive tax, robbed from their belongings and land. The Japanese miltary were prosperous but the people were not. In a way, they were colonized by their own country but you still agree that they get bombed? That’s the same thing as agreeing to bomb the colonized countries to “end the war” lmao.
I’m a Brazilian watching a Japanese guy react to an American video about the history of japan. It’s 2 am and i need to work tomorrow
Sheeeeeeesh
You are not alone bro, I'm Brazilian too 😂
How was work?
4:28
"So if you are interested in Japanese culture and history, this is something you might wanna-"
*slight buffer*
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@Chihusky 419 so the person who made the video can have money for monetize vids....their are ads so they make money
@Chihusky 419 In the early days of TH-cam creators didn't make any money. It was just a place to upload videos. Then they added AdSense monetization which means creators can get a cut of the ad profits. So the main way to make money on TH-cam is to have ads on your videos. There are other ways to generate revenue but that's what caused the shift you noticed.
I think the "monkey fun" meant 猿楽, sarugaku, kind of like a circus.
5:50
SHUNChan: “Is this guy famous?”
America: “Nope”
SHUNChan: “...Outside of Japan”
America: NO
Who’s perry? 😭
@@carlivasquez6840 Commodore Mathew Perry, he played 'Chandler' on Friends, right?
@@than217 but they were talking about the travellor
@@carlivasquez6840 It was a joke. lol
Yeah, Perry is only known to history nerds in the U.S.
We don't talk about him in public schooling at all.
@Haku infinite More like infamous.
Yea, Many Americans think American interaction with Japan started in WWII, but the interaction started well before that.
Unless it's some brief mention in a DID YOU KNOW section
What do you mean? Perry is my favorite platypus
At best Perry is an answer you have to remember on a multiple choice test
9:37 one thing that really surprises me about "the history of japan i guess" was how the creator didn't include that the u.s. let the emperor continue to be emperor. if the u.s. had decided to remove him then things would have gone VERY differently
@Recon WB
True, Japan's nationialism would have a severe impact.
Especially considering that it was a recurring theme mentioned earlier.
The alternative was mainland invasion, and that would have cost a *significant* amount of more lives. Besides, we did ask for their formal surrender several times before either bomb was dropped.
@@CyborgRowlet That's because the emperor still hold some "power" and people still respects him. It wouldn't make sense that the U.S. kept the emperor "just because". It would damage the reputation of U.S. in the eyes of Japanese people and cause extremists and loyalists to revolt which would assure conflict, and that is the last thing you want when the Soviets are right at your doorstep with troops on the front-line. So, realistically removing the emperor was not really an option. Unless, you're pretty extreme. Which I'm glad they didn't go that route to cause needless conflict.
@Yazoo Rayon
Yes, but the future of my country looks like it will copy the past. (Coming from a Shinto)
Would've loved if the video included Scandinavia but it sadly didn't!
Denmark was one of the first countries to establish a connection with Japan following Perry's opening of Japan (after 鎖国), with even one of my relatives being the first consul from Denmark in Japan, "John Henry Duus". His grave is still in Hakodate, Hokkaido today.
A lot of the agricultural industry in Hokkaido is based on Denmark too!
But I do understand all information is hard to include in a video less than 10 minutes!
Interesting, i didn't know about that
also, Scandinavians INTRODUCES SALMON SUSHI. Also, Scandinavians are super popular in Japan
@@exudeku really? As a Scandinavian I never heard of this. And I've always wanted to go to Japan!
Can you give me any dates? Because as far as I know Portugal came first and then the dutch
@@Quzga I don't think it's true... Maybe it's wishful thinking from some otaku
“And JESUS”
Of course 😂
The world would benefit by learning about the teachings of Jesus.
@@nvno1943 don't even start lol
@@nvno1943 I agree
@@nvno1943 true af, but I think that the best way is not by imposing. The more organic, the better. If we literally adapt Christ's teachings to our lives, believe me, christians would be so mentaly powerful, nice as hell, super empathic, focused, etc.
Hey! A Christian here :) I totally agree. The westernized American Christianity and the major obsession with the rapture and end times has kind of hindered the organic teachings. Though Jesus' second coming will be happening, many Christians have been focusing more on that than the Savior who is coming and His teachings.
The thing about being mentally powerful though, that may be a bit difficult for some. For instance, I have mental health issues; but, Jesus is helping me through it and my issues aren't as bad as before. Jesus says, "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow has enough troubles of it's own" (Matthew 6:34). He also says that the first and greatest commandment is to love God and that the second is like it, to love people (love your neighbor as yourself). I find it depressing when I see fellow Christians "cancelling" each other and not actually paying attention to the Bible when it's literally right there.
Sorry that this is kinda long haha. Hope you have a nice day:)
Fun fact: Germany during WW2 was run by an Angry Austrian, not a German.
if i remember correctly he was enlisted in the german military during WW1 though
@@jkitchen2003 He moved to Germany but he is from Austria.
@Ethan Pintar No? He hated Austria and wanted to be a German. He was given german citizenship in Braunschweig. Otherwise he could not run the German Reich, obviously.
Austrian is nationality only, but German can be nationality and ethnicity and language.
*Laughs in Barvarian
AP World Knowledge. To answer your question about "Why Dutch?". Dutch were allowed to trade with japan after the sakoku edict was passed because they were basically the only European country that was more tolerant of religions, especially with trade partners. As a result they went to Japan strictly for business and never tried to suede the Japanese to become Christians. Hence why they were allowed to trade. Thx Ms. Baise
5:53
"Is this guy famous? Outside of Japan?"
I think about this line at least once a day. Fascinating
It's surprisingly rare that we get to truly see what people from other countries think of history, especially ones involving America. Please, keep this going!
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There’s an American actor named Matthew Perry who is way more famous in the US than the naval officer Matthew Perry and it confused me when I first learned about him in my history class.
When you ask Americans if we know Matthew Perry, the answer you'll maybe get is "oh the actor that played Chandler in Friends"
"Is Perry famous outside of Japan"
Lol. Guarantee you most Americans have no idea who he is or what he did.
He's the guy who plays Chandler on Friends, duh! Before becoming an actor, he was a commodore in the US navy. How do people not know this stuff?
If it weren't for Samurai Champloo and Bill Wurtz, I'd have never known lmao
@@thomas8099 well he was only important in Japanese history, and US history, but not nearly as much as in Japan
He actually served in US Navy’s Africa Squadron (can’t remember the actually name of it, but that might be it). He was a young officer at the time assigned to US ships stopping slaver ships near Africa.
If I didn't take an Asian history class I would not have known who he was. Was never mentioned in public education :/
I like how bill gave a small respectful pause after the two nukes part of the video.
Perry is famous if you paid attention in history class, though most primary school do not dwell much on Japanese history, especially pre-World War 2 history. For example, I didn't know that Japan was allied with America and Britain during World War I until I was grown up. "Warm Water" pertains to Russia's ambitions to get access to ports which would remain navigable in the winter-time, bolstering trade and permitting them to project naval power.
Your mileage may vary, re: "history" class
Toyotomi: "And now I'm going to invade Korea and then hopefully China!"
bill wurtz: "...He said. And failed. And also died."
My friend who's studied Japanese history, after watching that sequence: "That's... not wrong... but entire books have been written about this!!!"
I've always wanted to know to they teach you guys about the Japanese war crimes in school. Like the rape of nanjing?
there are all sorts of street interview vids all over youtube where folks ask this question to just average folks in japan... the main answer seems to be...kinda... they were told it happened, but its downplayed A LOT... like...super super super down played on how truly horrifying that massacre was.. .. and there seems to be insistence that the vast majority of the comfort women were prostitutes, not girls stolen or tricked into forced sexual slavery... --- that being said, unlike Germany that is constantly reminded... i think only a handful of higher-ups(read as scapegoats) actually got punished for what happened.. and the most "senior" officers/leaders were kind of pardoned and kept their status.. to set up "good" relations between japan and other countries using their names because the people of japan had a lot of national pride..they would not have followed an outsider... and you can't really keep good relations going if you keep throwing atrocities in their face...so...kinda got swept under the rug for a long time... and 'mostly' keeps being denied to this day..... that's how i understand it, anyway... but i'm not from japan...so...you'd have to take my word vomit with a grain of salt =P
if you come at the average, modern japanese who have nothing to do with the past with accusing tones they're not going to want to admit it
Nobunaga: I’m going to take over the entire country!!!
Mitsuhide: *I’m about to end this man’s whole career*
7:34 - lol yep, it was exactly that ridiculous a domino effect
After a looooooong history of costly wars amongst each other that ultimately resolved very little for anyone on the continent except establishing a status quo, the nations of Europe got the idea of massive competing international alliances so as to deter any more warmongering from any one nation. After all, no nation would go to war if they knew the cost associated would vastly eclipse any gains they could make, right?
It's not the worst theory in the world, but it overlooked some obvious caveats: 1, nations do not always go to war for rational reasons, especially when communication lines are unstable and they're operating on incomplete/false information (Austria-Hungary and Russia come to mind especially,) and 2, being part of an alliance may protect you from your enemies attacking you, but it also obliges you to attack people who you do not consider your enemy in the event of an attack upon your "allied" nation.
Thus, because Serbian nationalists attack an Austro-Hungarian Archduke, Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia, Russia declares war on Austria-Hungary, Germany declares war on France (because France is allied to Russia,) and Britain declares war on Germany- all over a war that should never have had any real consequence outside of the Balkans. The rest is history: Germany loses, the WW1 allies demand reparations and that Germany should shoulder the blame for WW1, Germany's currency collapses from untenable crediting, and in that unstable soil, Hitler comes to power.
It'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
And the video doesn't even get into the insanity of the internal politics, like how Archduke Ferdinand was one of the main anti-imperialists in the Austrian court and how (ironically) his death let Hötzendorf, one of the leaders of imperialist faction, push through his plans for the subjugation of Serbia. Or how almost every monarch in Europe was related to Queen Victoria in some way, making World War One a family feud that killed millions.
@@GreasusGoldtoothOnlyFans The Queen Victoria thing isn't wrong. Apparently some of the leaders even said something along of the lines of "If Grandma Victoria were still alive she wouldn't have let any of this happen."
Probably the BIG thing WW1 did to Europe was really kill off the common "war is glorious" belief. Prior to the war the idea of total war that affected a nation on a complete civil level wasn't really thought to be a thing.
@@NecromancyBlack Woah, that really changes my perspective on the war...
Where I am from in America, we learned about Perry, but he was never super famous.
"And they haven't used the bomb yet and they're curious to see if it works so they drop it on Japan." ... "They actually drop two."
Americans watching this video: IM SORRYYYYYYYYYY :,((((((
It saved lives in the long run. Actually invading Japan would have been a catastrophe. They expected there would be millions of casualties.
@@talknight2 indeed, but there were more civilian causalities with the nukes.
@@yodathehobo6099 considering what Japanese civilians did on Okinawa, I'd have to disagree
@@talknight2 oh jesus i just looked that up, thats horrible.
@@yodathehobo6099 It was really bad but it prefented more hen it did damage. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the casualties would be MUCH higher on both sides if they didn't use the bombs. Even after the first bomb the generals refused to surrender.. They didn't really have a choice other then to bomb them. Negotiations probably wouldn't have worked either seeing how the generals didn't surrender even after the first bomb.
I'm shocked that I'm Dutch and have never learned about them going to Japan and actually being let in, lmao. Nice to come here for a Japanese reaction but learn something new about my own country aswell haha! Also I seriously had to look up the tornados that got rid of the mongol fleets that attacked Japan, that's some unique coincidence for Japan to happen twice lmao
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from what i learned, it was typhoons, not tornadoes that wiped out the mongol fleets each time they went and tried to invade japan. typhoons are pretty common in east and southeast asia, and idk if it was intentional from the part of the creator but in america, they call typhoons "cyclones" which could be pretty easy to confuse with tornadoes.
He didnt say water tornadoes?
I'm american.
I did not enjoy what I learned about my country.
Monoma Neito If it makes you feel any better, the governments of all the other countries have done horrific things too. Human beings with power pretty much always do, no matter where they come from.
I'm American and I've literally never heard of Perry in my life.
here in NY we learned about Perry in middle school and twice in high school (once in US history and once in world history). its crazy how low the education standards are in some other parts of the country.
I saw him in one of my World History books years ago but never again
WoWplayer527 I wouldn’t say they are low for that specific reason. Matthew Perry isn’t well known in the U.S. because we tend to get involved in foreign affairs quite often. Matthew Perry was one of many foreign diplomats who didn’t have much affect on the U.S. itself, which is maybe why he isn’t brought up as much.
@@huntywuntybunty Perry introduced the US to the country that it would fight a world war against and drop two atomic bombs on. We would then go on to build a decades long economic and political relationship that affects the lives of every American and Japanese person, although many people are ignorant to that truth due to America's poor education system. He is one of the most important figures in the history of US foreign affairs, especially focusing on US involvement in Asia.
yeah what
*_9:26_**_ dude had flashbacks from things he didnt live_*
I was so sad when I saw you reacting to America dropping the Atomic Bombs but then you had to make me laugh with that "you're not fine" meme. I'm trying to be empathetic here man!
What about him reacting to Japan brutally invading its neighbours beforehand? Oh wait, there was no such reaction.
@@ranivacar Ah yes, he moved his mouth a little bit when seeing that part for half a second, while you could clearly see a discomfort in his face for minutes when talking about the nukes. And it’s not only him that did the same, as other japanese that reacted on this video really didn’t care about that subject until the parts with the nukes.
"This moment is very popular."
That's an understatement. I cannot think of a historical event in any media portrayed more than Akechi's betrayal of Nobunaga except stuff from World War II.
Everyone that knows even a little about Japan heard about the Demon King
"That's where it all started?"
YES. WW1 was a nice pretty mess.
A mess that was because of so many treaties and alliances that basically forced countries into a war that many didn't want to do but felt obligated to do.
@@MikeAbili Weeeeeel... More because colonialism and expantionism caused rising tension between the end of XIX and XX century...
“The release of atomic energy hasn’t created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one.” - Albert Einstein
I hope this video that is shedding light on all humanity’s dark history will only help us to grow and not repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. No nation is without it’s skeletons. I hope the way we are able to do freely communicate and share our stories across the world into different cultures can fight against the instinct that caused wars and violence between nations and people groups, and unite us all in the same message, that despite the different languages spoken, foods eaten, and clothes worn we are all the same in the stories and passions we share to live, laugh, share and show love. Before whatever nationality we are, we are all human that share this planet together. If one thing good came from the internet, it’s it’s ability that closed distances between different cultures to show us the people across the ocean isn’t so different to the person we see in the mirror. History is a lesson for our current generations, let’s try to grow from these past mistakes and move forward. No amount of money or riches will ever replace what was stolen from each person who has been robbed through war, but we can strive not to repeat the mistakes of the past.
just my personal opinion based on my studying of history and what i see happening in real life:
History only teaches individuals, for better or for worse. And a crowd is only doomed to repeat it, regardless of how peaceful or how violent the result will be.
Peaceful times will inevitably have equal dark times succeeding them, and the vice versa will also happen.
People have realized this, we just cant fix it.
You idiots that try to do revisionism on nukes are pathetic. Japan was a rabid criminal empire that was not going to surrender. The US was staring at losing another 400k soldiers to invade the mainland. THAT WAS NOT OKAY. Put yourself into context a bit and ask the right questions before getting into your left wing revisionist guilt crap.
For those that don’t know, the term kamikaze derives from ‘divine wind’, which is a reference to the storms that helped quell the Mongolian invasions of Tsushima. It’s why he was joking by saying it was Tornados that stopped the mongols.
I am a Mexican and I know about perry
he participated in the war against Mexico too
in the first and second battles of tabasco of 1846 and 1847
he was the commander of the "gunboats".
He as well attacked Veracruz under the command of "old fuss" Winfield Scott, whom took the capital of Mexico.
lmao really? I didn't know
9:24 I can feel the pain in his eyes... Lols nerviously...
I had to cover my face with my shirt. It was painful. History can suck so much ugh T_T
@@nukesakuji Yeah, let's hope those are the only two atomic bombs ever used in war, humans have done enough awful things too each other throughout history. Ugh, I remember in High School the final for my world history class involved a written prompt where we had to support or refute the use of those bombs in WWII. That was an awful test.
@@seangoldman6833 idk which is worse, mine which was to essentially debate bout slavery where we were placed randomly into either confederate or the union group. OR yours. Fuck
The dropping of the atom bombs wasn't even what made the Japanese surrender. It was the invasion of the Soviets into Manchuria. US firebombings on Japanese cities killed many more people than the atom bombs. The Emperor was ultimately concerned about the Soviets making Japan communist.
The only reason why the US dropped the bombs was to flex on the Soviet Union; the Soviets had doubted that the atom bomb would work.
foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/
E: that being said, I don't really think there should be too much crying over Japan - the Japanese empire was ridiculously brutal and killed millions. Some of the shit they did would make Hitler blush.
A more long-form podcast on the rise and fall of imperial japan:
www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-62-supernova-in-the-east-i/
@@ElectricChaplain oh wow for real??? That's some information I never even heard of >_>
"That's all where it started?" Yes. World War 1 is the result of years (or maybe even decades) of tension in Europe and the breakout was a chain reaction. If someone doesn't know European history that could be surprising, but it wasn't the first time something like that happened in Europe (and it wasn't even the last, because we also got WW2). If you are interested, there is plenty of information about history of Europe on Wikipedia and on the Internet in general. It is REALLY fascinating!
i gave up on learning ww1. too many dark stuff like passchendale (i hope im spelling that right) and complicated relations all rooting from a pointless political fisticuffs exchange.
ww2 is a bit more easier to learn.
i gave up on learning ww1. too many dark stuff like passchendale (i hope im spelling that right) and complicated relations all rooting from a pointless political fisticuffs exchange.
ww2 is a bit more easier to learn.
6:18 - "And do you know what else is western? That's right, it's conquering stuff."
SHUNchan: *Shaking his head because, dammit, that's too true.*
When I went to school in Japan on a US military base the school I went to was called M.C. Perry High School
in school during the 90s perry is brought up briefly, if at all. We focused on the massive political divide within the united states during that time (1840s-1860s). The annex of texas. The Mexican-American war, and the American Civil War. Perry would have been brought up due to his involvement in the war of 1812 and Mexican-American war, but not in regards to the Convention of Kanagawa. Though the Kanagawa Treaty is more imporant to japanese history, its not as important to american history considering the country altering events within the US occuring at the time.
I learned more about Perry in my Japanese class than in my history class
I learned about perry from Potential history (great history shitpost channel) i dont remember hearing commodore perry's name in class though.
now that im typing this i remember more of history watching youtube videos then history class.
when he said "that's where it all strated?' me: ah shit here we go again hahah btw: i am from serbia
deadass gasping for air when the"they ask how are you" meme blasted after the bombing part lmaoo
American nerd here: Yeah, Perry isn't super well known. I only know about him because I went nuts on the studying thing.
As to WW1: Yup, the European powers at the time had been formed by Napoleon's empire and the alliances that were founded because of it. Austria's Archduke Ferdinand was the heir presumptive and assassinated which due to the already boiling tensions caused the start of the war. Tldr: He was killed by a Serbian revolutionary group that essentially wanted nearby areas to be able to unify into Serbia so Austria declared war on Serbia, and because of the varying alliances basically all of europe got dragged into the conflict.
Then the Lusitania was sunk by German U boats (An English Cruise liner) and it was carrying American passengers. Understandably this caused the US-German relations to start breaking down and it was only a matter of time before the US entered the war.
I felt so sorry for him when the atom bomb part came up:(
They do teach about Matthew Perry in most American/World history classes, but most Americans eventually forget about that stuff. And even then they didn't spend a lot of time on him. So yeah, most Americans don't know who he is even though they probably were taught about him at some point in their lives.
I wouldn't say it's in most American/World History classes because I took two (moved high schools and the new one wouldn't accept all of my courses from the first one) in two very different parts of the country and never learned about Japanese isolationism and America forcing it to reopen. I'm sure it's taught at some schools, but not most.
This made me wonder Shun-chan, how much of Japan's history do you learn at school in Japan?
You can judge it by his expressions looking at that video and a full history explanation from his exp after it...
@@MrKasugano doesn't tell me anything
It's an old country so it's probably really long. They probably teach the most important parts and the fine details get muddied.
I saw a video that interviewed young Japanese people and apparently they don’t really learn that much about it. They touch on it a little but not in great detail. The older generation even said young people today don’t really know their history, what they themselves lived through.
Just discovered your channel through the Filthy Frank reaction videos and you're very entertaining! Keep up with the great videos :)
thank you so much!!!
@@SHUNchanjp No problem!
Ratchet I love ratchet and clank bro plus they made mangas about the game in Japan 🇯🇵
@@Snakeheart33 Yeah I love Ratchet and Clank as well! I heard about those mangas so I'll check them out my dude but yeah good to know that this game reaches a wide audience of people all over the world :)
"and Jesus"
"Of course"
I'm dead 😂
Also Russia had no access to a warm water port for a while. They still might not. If they do it's either thru China or Turkey
Not me thinking monkey fun was something else I- 👁👄👁
I am an U.S. born college student in the United States and I thought it might be interesting to touch on the subject of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. For a long time, many believed that dropping the bombs was necessary to save American lives since, if they got Japan to surrender, then the U.S. would not have had to conduct a land-invasion of Japan. Nowadays we are taught that the dropping of the bombs by the U.S. was very morally questionable. Many young people in the U.S. think that the bombs should not have been dropped on Japan, and are fairly apologetic about the issue. In my college coursework, we're taught to look at it as morally ambiguous, and the bombs are generally considered to be a dark time in U.S. history. It's interesting to see that Japan and the United States have turned from adversaries to allies and I honestly am grateful for that friendship.
It's always morally questionable, but there was also inner conflict within the Japanese government itself that makes it morally ambiguous. Had it played out, the war may have ended fairly soon anyway due to pressure from Russia. On the other hand, there were those with the idea that Japan should fight down to the last man. The bombs may have ultimately been the best solution, but it will always be a controversial decision.
The guy who made that video was right in that the American government wanted to test the new weapon they developed rather than it being used to defeat Japan as the Japanese were already on the verge of surrendering when the Soviet Union started to devote their attention east after fucking up Germany real good.
I suspect the decision to bomb Japan was more down to the US wanting Japan to surrender to them rather than the Soviet Union. There is no way Japan could have survived war alone. It was surrounded just as Britain had been in 1940, and Britain only survived because it was on the same side as the Soviets once Barbarossa kicked off. Had Hitler not backstabbed the Soviets, history could have played out very differently.
Japan stood no chance against the entire allied navies blockading and shelling them for a prolonged period. Japan is very poor in many natural resources, and would have ran out of oil and steel sooner or later.
I sometimes get Tokyo, Edo, and Kyoto mixed up when i try to remember Japan's capital.
Legit soon as he started talking about the mongols I instantly thought of ghost of Tsushima
9:16 the way he sharply inhales at the atomic bomb part AND he edits the footage in black and white and sets sad music over it....*sweats nervously in American*
yeah basically some dude's hand slipped on the trigger and he shot archduke franz ferdinand oops and it happened that he was from a serbian radical group but basically europe was bored of spreading christianity around anyways and said yeah war will carry the economy lol now we just need an excuse
*many historical inaccuracies on the death of archduke but its basically what happened
All those deaths from Verdun, Gallipoli and Passchendale (i hope im spelling that right) all because of an opportunity to get the economy going
History's biggest bruh moment until Operation Market Garden.
long story short, some dude died, and that started the war
9:16 awww his face just changed so much...cute but sad!
What about those hundreds of thousands of kids ,women and men that japan killed and raped?
@@ickochi
Yuki Mikano
7 seconds ago (edited)
Every country did something bad during the war, nobody was innocent, it's a war. I just meant THAT part of the video.
I kinda lol’d . It’s all sad but in the end we are so removed from it all it can be easy to laugh
The regret on his face when Japan attacked Hawaii and his face when US drops the nuke is so sad.😔
Not gonna lie, I'm an American and I had a similar expression when the nukes came up. I know it was the quickest way to end the war, but it was still horrible
Could you do a video on your experience on learning about Japanese Peruvians or Japanese Brazilians? When people think of the west, they only think about the US and Canada but never Latin America but there are a lot of Japanese Brazilians.
8:52 that duck face
I love how surprised you were at how fucked up the start of WW1 was, lol.
You should see his "history of the world," it's pretty incredible.
It was funny how shocked you were at how it ended, but is there any major history of Japan after about 1990? (I honestly don't know)
Sarin gas terror attack of 1995. First time a non-governmental group maliciously used chemical weapons to murder civilians until the Syrian Civil War broke out.
2011 Fukushima tsunami/earthquake/nuclear meltdown. Largest loss of life (40,000) in a single day Japan since WWII.
@@AICW wasn't the leader of the cult that did the terror attacked hanged like 2 years ago?