Arn Anderson on being asked to lose to Steve Williams
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- Nobody had a career like Arn Anderson. For more than three decades he has been the epitome of “old school.” Hear him as you’ve never heard him before every Tuesday at 6am Eastern as you gives you a peak behind the curtain for the first time ever. Each week Conrad Thompson will examine Arn’s days in the territories, becoming an Anderson, creating the Four Horsemen in the NWA, becoming a Hall of Famer, and being a producer behind the scenes for years for WWE proving “The Enforcer” has a story unlike anyone else. Known for his trademark Spinebuster and incredible “promos” in front of the camera, it’s his timing and wit that has kept “the boys” in stitches behind the scenes. Hear for yourself why ARN is the new “symbol of excellence” in professional wrestling podcasting exclusively on Westwood One Podcast Network, Tuesdays at 6am Eastern.
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Arn and Tully were insanely underrated individually & as a tag team. Two of my favorites of all time.
I get more excitement from listening to a Double A interview than from watching today's wrestling. Long live the Enforcer!
I just cannot watch it I have a hard time finding resemblance to what I used to love watching and all are and if an is the most under-appreciated underused underated stars ever, guy was phenominal in ring in front of camera and on the mic, nobody hits spine buster like AA
Wrestling shoots in general. Today's wrestlers are a bunch of dorks.
Then why do you still watch?
RIP Steve Williams.
It's hard to believe how tone deaf the Crocketts, then Herd, and McMahaon was regarding Arn and Tully. They, along with the other Horsemen, were main reasons that I tuned into wrestling. When they left for the WWF, it was a MAJOR blow to WCW - whether they knew it or not. Same later on with the Midnight Express.
GCW/WCW was CRAZY over and popular. Any financial problems the company ever had was due to mismanagement before and up to the Crocketts. They had a product that was loved by wrestling fans.
Arn Anderson was always my favorite wrestler. No BS straight about his business. THERE IS ONLY ONE ARN
Heels luke Arn Anderson are the real heros and inevitably the good guys. As much as the fans "hated" them, they are the mist loyal workers in the company, doing what they were asked by the bookers, swallowed their pride and egos to put a baby face over. Out of the ring, mist of them are the nicest and most humble folks in the world. Ole and Arn have always been my favorites because of their skilled technical wrestling abilities.
Anderson never would’ve questioned losing to Williams. He knew the nigh-invincible booking he had from Bill Watts in the UWF and it was being carried over into JCP. The problem was that Anderson realized that he and Tully were being taken for granted. You’d think that by complying with the booker they’d be seen as highly valued, reliable workers. That should earn the promoter’s respect. But Arn didn’t get that respect until he started saying no which included working for the WWF. I’m proud of him for standing up for himself.
Arn is the most underrated wrestler in History PERIOD!!!!!
Ever hear of Jerry Stubbs ?
I almost agree....
Arn may be one of the most most underrated and/or most unappreciated PROFESSIONAL WRESTLERS
Word
Arn Anderson doing a podcast is the greatest idea of all time.
Sort through your anger. Wise words
While I'm not a fan of wrestler podcasts because they tend to have selective memory and a tendency to put themselves over, I'm enjoying Arn's podcast because he doesn't waste his time shooting on guys. What a helluva book he'd write!
Arn has such a great mind for the business, and my gosh can he ever talk?!
I always enjoy getting Arn's perspective!
Everything going on at that time was about the promotion punishing Tully Blanchard for saying dumb things to the Turner Broadcasting people. Arn got caught up in the punishments just because he was working so close with Tully. I would think it was Jim Crockett who made the decision on the match, not Dusty. Steve Williams wasn't getting a push at the time. Their intention was to eventually put him in the Varsity Club with all the other heels they didn't know what to do with.
One of the greatest wrestlers ever
Could listen to Arn talk all night.
As a kid when everyone loved the baby faces I was the only kid that routed for the heals. Looking back I hate how much Ric and Arn sold for guys unworthy of carrying their bags. Arm was jobbed was more than he should ever have been. Arn as the enforcer of the 4 horsemen sold more and lost more than he should have been booked. Damn what a tablet in the ring and on the mic.
Just love the enforcer.
Love these clips from The Arn Show. One issue though, could you turn down the volume on the music that closes out each clip?
What is that song? It’s not Arn’s theme
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. It's like ten times louder Arn and Conrad lol
@@KingPossum if you are listening while relaxing and napping it'll startle the hell out of you for sure lol
Thank You for The Podcast Arn..
Arn is a man's man
The glue that held the Horseman together .The man that got the dirty jobs done Double AA the Enforcer himself .Him and B W were my favorite Horseman .Don't get me wrong Ric Flair was the magic man . But Double AA was the man
Arn is and always been one of my fave and always my favorite horseman..nwa was better than wwf ..and the horseman was one of the main reasons if not the main reason..go Pacers
Steve was one of the real badasses in wrestling. I bet he was stiff and it had to feel like a train wreck after the match was over.
Bart should how stiff Williams was ..
Dr. Death Steve Williams should have been the guy to replace Magnum TA. Arn losing to Dr. Death should not have been a punishment.
In my opinion, I never saw Dr Death as the #1 top babyface, let alone replacing Magnum TA. Nikita Koloff was the best choice
Not merely a loss. A squash match after a exhausting entertaining match v midnight express.
Koolazzmike Dr. Death Steve Williams had the amateur background, could shoot, was good on the mic, could brawl and could be a good technical wrestler.
@@Mr.Majestic77 I understand and aware of all his accomplishments, but like my point, he wasn't a top draw babyface for Crockett Promotions
@@Mr.Majestic77 True, but it all ended when he actually had to fight and got ko'd by a low-mid-carder
I always thought Dr Death would have been better as the horsemen to replace luger because he was more of a power guy
Dr. Death and The Enforcer, should have been given a real feud, a couple matches, each one escalating. Williams should have won it storywise, but could have been a barn burner series
Scott Dawson stole/uses his DDT setup from Arn Anderson. Also, his Spinebuster was the absolute best in the business!
I don't know, Ron Simmons had a sick, high impact one and Bobby Roode's looks picture perfect every single time.
Dawson didn't steal anything, Arn himself gave him the ok to use his style of DDT. Hell, Dawson's entire thing is emulating Arn, right down to the shocked facial expressions.
I agree, I think the spinebuster is the most under rated move ever. Great name too
Arn wasnt happy about this but he let Renegade squash him?
It's because he lost in 4 minutes. He even said he never said no, and he couldn't beat Steve Williams with a dump trump backing over him, a blow torch, and a baseball bat; that wasn't it. They were just trying to make him seem like he was nothing. Yeah, I know same with Renegade, but losing in 4 minutes makes you almost enhancement status, and they did it for no reason. With Renegade it was a reason, as dumb as it was, they thought they could make him a star; he was their Ultimate Warrior. Stupid but it is different.
@@josephdelledonne2098 but the Renegade match was very short as well, ie, a squash. And yeah they were pushing Renegade but maybe the plan at the time was to push Doc too.
@@alwaysamysteryyes2021 different years dummy
@@TobeyStarburst wtf does the years have to do with getting squashed moron?
I’m presuming the difference is a more wise Arn Anderson. Plus he had to know he could and did easily recover from a joke of a Renegade push.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that Arn said in a previous video that his payoff from Bunkhouse Stampede was the he final straw for leaving Crockett.
He also said he didn't get that pay until weeks later so if this is in between those times perhaps this is leading up to that.
Arn is such a class act
@@KingPossum spell check..lol
Andersocn vs Williams would have been a great feud .
Remember when they made Arn Anderson put over the Renegade
Williams and Anderson would have been a great team or battle.
Arm losing to Doc wouldn’t have hurt him one damn bit. Doc was no Arn but he was an established star in his own right.
I checked out the match results for that houston card- but that dr death/AA match isnt listed on it.
It's funny to me how Jim and David Crockett and Dusty Rhodes didn't see the immense value Arn and Tully brought to JCP/WCW on a daily basis. Tully and Arn were part of the backbone of that wrestling promotion for almost 5 years, and to treat them like shit, and not take care of them financially ahead of the other talent is beyond me. To disrespect the Horsemen like that and ask them to do "a job" for Steve Williams is ridiculous and pointless. The Horsemen were not just great wrestlers, they were great promoters, they gave great promos, they had great matches, they lived the lifestyle 24/7, and they bled and sweat the business. The Crockett's didn't know how to expand their brand nationally and spend wisely, and Dusty as booker was a glory hound who had to win, while burying the other guys like Tully and Arn at the end. That is why JCP had to sell to Turner, because they got their priorities out of whack, instead of keeping it simple.
Tully had issues that were starting to surface.
They saw the value. But there were other considerations. Its not exactly a secret that Tully had a serious cocaine problem at the time. Its also not a secret anymore that he (Tully) shot his mouth off in a meeting with the Turner Broadcasting people and caused problems for the Crocketts in trying to sell WCW to Turner. Arn himself didn't do anything wrong, but Arn was part of the package with Tully and suffered the consequences.
The Crocketts focus at the time they (Arn & Tully) were treated badly was making the sale to TBS. I think Jim Crockett actually wanted Tully in particular to leave at that time and did everything he possibly could to encourage him to leave.
You were exhausted arn. So those of us who watched it thought you weren’t put in a no win match after your first go of the night. So it worked 2 gold. Put Steve over on a horseman and everyone knew you were spent from your first match
But that doesn't come over on tv when the don't show both matches
Steve williams vs billy jack prime era shoot mat match
Dr death and the Italian stallion should have been put together to feud warriors, doom,skyscrapers, midnight, and the Minnesota wrecking crew then brain busters
Dudes should have jobbed
This happened way too much and actually still does.....Pin Heads who are NOT Wrestlers or Workers make "The Decisions" that dictate Story Lines and or Stories/skits. Smart Workers like Arn realize their potential and worth and absolutely KNOW when to draw a line in the sand.
This is like saying actors should run studios, make movies, TV shows, dictating everything that happens, because they're such unique geniuses....you buy the wrestling con that it's rocket science only a select few can understand and as a result you think all wrestlers are Einstein and how dare anybody tell them what to do...
Yeah..I loved Dr. Death but 4 minutes to beat Arn...No way!!
Karma got Dusty when he went up North. By 1988, Rhodes was drunk with power.
Travis McDonald Wouldn’t say drunk with power more than he thought 43 year old Dusty had the same drawing power as 30 year old Dusty. He isn’t the first one to think this
I don't think it was Dusty or even Dusty's decision. I think the decision was made by Jim Crockett and that they were punishing Arn because they were angry at Tully and Arn was his tag partner. It wasn't a normal booking decision. They had no intention of doing anything with Steve Williams at that time. A few weeks later they dumped him in Kevin Sullivan's Varsity Club as another non-speaking mid-card heel.
@@thepunditspundit1776 Not the last, either.
@Gene Bone They were over, but I don't know about the MOST over.
They also wanted Flair to do the job to Williams
You ever have a question as bout wrestler ask the book keeper himself Jim Cornette.
if arn wrestled when old school was current school then why is he "the epitome" of old school when thats what he started and ended with?
live long Arn!
AA couldn't be ANYMORE RIGHT
So you play a 2 on 2 game of basketball and win or lose to the best team in the league
Then they want you to play 1 on 1 the same night and get best 21 to 2
AA DESERVED alot more RESPECT than that and you here him say NOT THE POINT A COUPLE TIMES That's a SLAP in the Face and Anybody would've Reacted the same way
I can't believe he did the Job
I WOULDNT HAVE
Greatest tag teams ever:
1.) The Midnight Express
2.) The Hart Foundation
3.) Tully & Arn
4.) The Road Warriors
5.) Demolition
6.) The Rock N' Roll Express
7.) The British Bulldogs
Top 7 teams in history all active at the same time, greatest era in the history of tag team wrestling.
@@KingPossum redo my list? Make your own list. My finished top ten: 8.) Steiner Brothers, 9.) The Fabulous Freebirds 10.) The East-West Connection (Jesse Ventura & Adrian Adonis)
The Fantastics Tommy Rogers and Bobby Fulton should be on any roster of alltime greatest. Their matches in World Class and MidSouth UWF were absolute classics.B.W.
It is hard to come up with an all time list. Maybe it might be better to break them up by decades as this is more of a best of 1980's though some of these teams obviously found success later on. And, I say that with all due respect. I think your list, which is impressive, these teams all benefited from the popularity explosion of wrestling in the 1980's and the advent of the Pay Per View.
I go back before the 80's and remember Nick Bockwinkel and Ray Stevens. The Outlaws (Rhodes and Murdoch). Flair and Valentine in the late 70's. The Minnesota Wrecking Crew, Ole and Gene Anderson. The Funks. Dick the Bruiser and the Crusher. Another team that found great success in the 1980's was Rick Steamboat and Jay Youngblood. They were super over in the early part of the decade in the Mid-Atlantic area. Go back to the 1960's and you have Harley Race and Larry Henning, three time AWA World Champs. I am sure I am leaving out some other great teams as well from previous decades.
You did not mention the free birds. They were the greatest heel tag team of all times
Not bad I never got to see midnight though so I can't say much about them.
Dr. Death
Do you think Arn ever laughs?
No. Lol
He laughed quite a lot at Bret Harts HOF speech when he told the story of how Arn drank a beer with a plastic ear in it ! 🤣
how'bout arn loses to steve williams in 24 minutes? Be fucking respectful to him
Arn may be too meek and soft spoken. I have to turn the volume up to hear and then at the end when the music kicks in it's way too BLARING.
Tough guy or not, Steve Williams never got over with the crowd in his entire career and Dusty is a damn fool for wanting Arn to job to him in 4 minutes under any circumstance.
Dr. Death was a major star in the UWF. I'm not sure about other places but durring his time he was over here in Houston. Whenever I talk to fans of the old Houston Wrestling his name is always brought up.
I don't know about not getting over. He was pretty damn popular in his work in AJPW. Check out the 1994 Summer Action Series match between Dr. Death and Misawa. The crowd is mental by the end of it.
really i thought he was pretty good in uwf . perhaps if they would have used him he would have gotten over with the fans
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Conrad u read way to much
Too
What a boring story. Good lord.
You’re a mark Arn, like nash told flair. Wrestling isn’t real and even if it was you couldn’t really beat anybody in a fight.