I have had a Pitch Box for a few years. I never found a setting I liked or thought was usuable. Perhaps there is a combination of notes and/or one setting or another that sounds good, but if that is true I haven't found it. The video had two sounds from it, at about 17:40 & 20:00 that I thought were marginally OK, but I can't see myself using them anywhere. Overall I think the Pitch Box is a waste of materials and money. I never tried a Pitch Fork. Electro Harmonix has numerous TH-cam demonstration videos for their products. The sole drawback I noticed with EHX is now and then a featured pedal is mixed with something else. They tell you that but I prefer to hear demonstrations using only the highlighted pedal. Thumbs up to this man for doing exactly that. His Pitch Box sounds as bad as mine. As for the Pitch Fork, I think it has some usuably sounds but not many. Now I know not to buy one as well.
Question, can you start your guitar in e flat for less tension on the strings and uptune on the pedal to e standard? Like have the pedal set on e flat spot and then uptune in pedal while guitar was already in e flat tuning to start.?❤️
unsure but ill get out my bass and do a demo of these 2 pedals as soon as i find the time. I have a feeling both of these pedals will sound cool on bass! thanks for asking i had'nt thought to do a BASS shootout of these 2 pedals. Ill let you know as soon as i try it how it sounds. its a real good question.
For people asking if these are like the drop pedal, no. If you want to tune down semitones like from Standard E to Eb, and play along with songs or record your own songs in lower tunings, instead of changing Guitars buy the Digitech Drop.
I'm getting ready to buy a Moorer Pitch box. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who has one, so I'm unable to evaluate a real working Pitch Box. Nevertheless, I've read a lot of reviews and have watched numerous videos of the Pitch Box. Although there is a plethora of similar, cheap Chinese Harmonizer/Drop Detune/Pitch Shifting/Chorus-like pedals that are sold by different brands (ie Donner, Stax, and Kooga (?)) on Amazon (some are even priced around $40 or less), this is the only truly affordable pitch drop/harmonizer pedal that I'd consider fully usable. Most of these cheap alternatives suffer from severe latency/delay issues and/or unforgivable problems with warble. It appears that the amount of these undesirable effects seems to be directly proportional to the amount of specified pitch shift. I consider this finding to be good news because I plan to use my Pitch Box as a means to quickly change from standard E tuning to Eb (down 1/2 step) Tuning or D tuning (down 1 step). I also plan to use it to replicate the Eventide Harmonizer's Detuned Chorus effect that EVH used on many of the Van Hagar era songs like "Best of Both Worlds", "Top of the World", "Runaround", etc. Thus, for most situations, I'll only be using about 1 step of detuning so latency shouldn't be an issue for me. It appears like many of the negative complaints related to the Pitch Box are due to unrealistic expectations or the user doesn't have the device in the correct mode. (For example, don't expect to shift the pitch of your guitar a whole octave without expecting some minor latency and/or warble.) Furthermore, I also have doubts about the authenticity and accuracy of these videos and the source of the comments. I am aware that some of these companies will send giant boxes of free pedals to anyone willing to spend the time to make a video. This can amount to paid advertisement and unfairly biased reviews. As for the comments, I simply have a hard time believing some of the comments that are made on TH-cam and various discussion forums. Since Digitech's existence is based on the success of its Whammy Pedal and recent derivatives from it, wouldn't they be tempted to make misleading comments in order to boost their sales or hurt the sales of their competitors. Might not their competitors make similar posts in order to hurt Digitech. This could explain why some people experience no latency and others experience so much latency they consider it unusable. On the other hand, one user may use it to change from standard E Tuning to Eb tuning and have no issues. Another user may be disappointed because he is expecting the same results but he is using his Pitch Box for more extreme tuning (up 2 octaves). Furthermore, people who write these reviews tend to do so as a means to justify money that was either well spent or wasted. Do we honestly expect a guy who just spent $8,000 for a Klon Golden Centaur that he just bought on Reverb to provide honest evaluations of the highly rated, yet very affordable Mosky "Mini Silver Horse" &"Mini Golden Horse" pedals, which are very popular Klon-like knockoffs that sell for only $30 on Amazon? (I recently watched a video where a boutique pedal builder couldn't "hear" the difference between a real Klon Centaur and this same Mosky "Mini Golden Horse" knockoff.) Furthermore, the guy who invented the Klon is building them once again. I wouldn't be surprised if he was writing negative reviews of the Mosky online or putting negative comments on TH-cam videos. Sound business practices for this day and age. One other thing ... specialized Unlike the more specialized (aka "more limited") Digitech alternatives to their Whammy Pedal, the Moorer Pitch Box offers affordability, yet it manages to do more than a single function. It has 3 distinct modes, each dedicated to its own particular function. Thus, it is critical that the user chooses the correct mode to suit his particular application. With the mode switch in the "up" position, it will act like a harmonizer. In this mode, the user shouldn't expect it to sound like the Digitech Drop Pedal. Otherwise, the user may think the pedal is broken. In this mode (harmonizer mode), It will take the pitch of a guitar solo and shift it up or down by a specified interval (such as a major 3rd, a minor 3rd, a 5th, or a 4th). (In this way, it is similar to the Digitech Drop). However, unlike the Digitech Drop, when the Pitch Box is in harmonizer mode, it combines the original signal with the pitch-shifted signal to create a blended, harmonized solo. With the mode switch in the center position (pitch shift mode), it will function just like a Digitech Drop. The Pitch Box simply takes the signal from the guitar and pitch shifts it up or down by a specified amount. (However, in this mode (pitch shift mode), the pitch-shifted signal isn't blended with the original signal as it was in harmonizer mode.) With the tweak of the pitch knob, a standard E,A,D,G,B,E guitar can be made to sound as if it is tuned down a half-step, up a half step, down a whole step, down a 3rd, up a 5th, or up an octave, etc. Finally, with the mode switch in its 3rd or bottom position, the Pitch Box will emulate the Digitech 'Luxe. This is called the detune mode because it has a "detuned chorus" type sound that was originally created by an Eventide Harmonizer. (I don't think it is an exact duplication of the Eventide Harmonizer effect, but it is very close.) Countless users claim that this mode allows them to duplicate EVH's "Van Hagar era" detuned chorus effect by simply setting the pitch knob to the "-2" setting. The videos of The Pitch Box emulating Van Halen on TH-cam back up these claims. IMO, this mode alone justifies the cost of the Pitch Box even if it does nothing else since any other quality alternative will cost $200 or more. Well, I just ordered my pitch box. I'll let you know how it turns out
If i want to drop the tune... Does the Pitch Fork goes down from half-step to half-step, or from 1 step to 1 step? If my standard tuning is E, but i want it to sound in Eb (or D# , half-step), does ir works? Or goes directly to "D"? *I'm asking before my cell battery goes off...
@@helamanavalos9806 yeah, today the sales-man told me that also the Digitech Drop arrived to his shop! Damned. Well, i think i'll buy that too, because it's true bypass and has less latency. Also the pitch box, can ve use for harmonies and for " tuning up" (the Digitech Drop, only goes "down"). It might be my christmas present from myself, ha!
Electro harmonix = expensive as hell Mooer= more affordable Plus the Mosaic = expensive as hell too. Don't understand why. Anything to try to replicate a 12 string is bank breaking. Including the Jangle box. I swear Rickenbacker is behind it all.
Yeah MOOER is super affordable. At least if you shop around used. Pitch Fork has actually gone up in price alot since i bought mine. With Digitech wait until they close out the Mosaic, pretty sure like my LUXE anti-chorus eventually they will close it out for like $40-$50 new. You have to be on it though. When Harman/Digitech/DOD close out a pedal they go fast.
Since compression is used for 12 strings, and one of the effects for a jangle box and the mosaic, im wondering what combining compression and a pitchbox would sound like?
I don't think its what your looking for in that respect. It does polyphonic and it does the lower octave but i'm not sure it does the drop tuning stuff quite like the digitech one.I dont have the drop pedal so im not quite sure. The Pitch Fork does the latch whammy style stuff, the pitch box does not. Are you looking to do the dive bomb style stuff the whammy with the drop does? it can def take you lower but im not sure it has the full chord clarity the drop pedal has. Then again ive not tried the pitch fork size drop pedal i think it does latch mode like the pitch fork except instead of whammy-ing high you can dive bomb corect? Yeah pitch box is great but def watch some more good demos if what it can do.(if there are any...) ill look into the drop pedal more and get back to you with hopefully a better answer. Thanks for watching man
I had both. Kept the Digitech Drop. A lot more quiet when used in a chain with other pedals (especially acoustic) and noticeably less latency and tone change.
Can it do drop tunings though? I dont think it can too well, its good for harmony and octave and detune stuff but for DROP tuning i think that Digitech is the way to go the or the Morpheous Drop tune pedal if you can find one used mint cheaper. Pros use those for drop tuning the mooer pitch box is great for the $ and for what it does in that little box for cheap. However id say it would be more misleading for me to tell you yes buy it its an awesome droptune pedal. I really honestly dont think it is. Digitech and Morpheous drop tune are more solid on that front. Thats my opinion. Thanks/cheers luke
I have had a Pitch Box for a few years. I never found a setting I liked or thought was usuable. Perhaps there is a combination of notes and/or one setting or another that sounds good, but if that is true I haven't found it. The video had two sounds from it, at about 17:40 & 20:00 that I thought were marginally OK, but I can't see myself using them anywhere. Overall I think the Pitch Box is a waste of materials and money. I never tried a Pitch Fork. Electro Harmonix has numerous TH-cam demonstration videos for their products. The sole drawback I noticed with EHX is now and then a featured pedal is mixed with something else. They tell you that but I prefer to hear demonstrations using only the highlighted pedal. Thumbs up to this man for doing exactly that. His Pitch Box sounds as bad as mine. As for the Pitch Fork, I think it has some usuably sounds but not many. Now I know not to buy one as well.
Can you do the solo killing in the name from rage againest the machine with that pedals
Pitch box D tune -2 is almost EVH tone. Try it out
what setting would i need to downtune sound a halfstep down on the mooer
Question, can you start your guitar in e flat for less tension on the strings and uptune on the pedal to e standard? Like have the pedal set on e flat spot and then uptune in pedal while guitar was already in e flat tuning to start.?❤️
Yup
Good demo👍.
Would either pedal in 5th mode make a bass playing single notes sound like a guitar playing power (5th) chords?
unsure but ill get out my bass and do a demo of these 2 pedals as soon as i find the time. I have a feeling both of these pedals will sound cool on bass! thanks for asking i had'nt thought to do a BASS shootout of these 2 pedals. Ill let you know as soon as i try it how it sounds. its a real good question.
@@PMTluke -well, did you do a demo using the bass?
"Giant "M"with a "6" next to it" 😂
Is that a Crate 2x12
Amp is a VOX AC 15 w Celestion Greenback
For people asking if these are like the drop pedal, no. If you want to tune down semitones like from Standard E to Eb, and play along with songs or record your own songs in lower tunings, instead of changing Guitars buy the Digitech Drop.
I'm getting ready to buy a Moorer Pitch box. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who has one, so I'm unable to evaluate a real working Pitch Box. Nevertheless, I've read a lot of reviews and have watched numerous videos of the Pitch Box. Although there is a plethora of similar, cheap Chinese Harmonizer/Drop Detune/Pitch Shifting/Chorus-like pedals that are sold by different brands (ie Donner, Stax, and Kooga (?)) on Amazon (some are even priced around $40 or less), this is the only truly affordable pitch drop/harmonizer pedal that I'd consider fully usable. Most of these cheap alternatives suffer from severe latency/delay issues and/or unforgivable problems with warble. It appears that the amount of these undesirable effects seems to be directly proportional to the amount of specified pitch shift. I consider this finding to be good news because I plan to use my Pitch Box as a means to quickly change from standard E tuning to Eb (down 1/2 step) Tuning or D tuning (down 1 step). I also plan to use it to replicate the Eventide Harmonizer's Detuned Chorus effect that EVH used on many of the Van Hagar era songs like "Best of Both Worlds", "Top of the World", "Runaround", etc. Thus, for most situations, I'll only be using about 1 step of detuning so latency shouldn't be an issue for me.
It appears like many of the negative complaints related to the Pitch Box are due to unrealistic expectations or the user doesn't have the device in the correct mode. (For example, don't expect to shift the pitch of your guitar a whole octave without expecting some minor latency and/or warble.) Furthermore, I also have doubts about the authenticity and accuracy of these videos and the source of the comments. I am aware that some of these companies will send giant boxes of free pedals to anyone willing to spend the time to make a video. This can amount to paid advertisement and unfairly biased reviews. As for the comments, I simply have a hard time believing some of the comments that are made on TH-cam and various discussion forums. Since Digitech's existence is based on the success of its Whammy Pedal and recent derivatives from it, wouldn't they be tempted to make misleading comments in order to boost their sales or hurt the sales of their competitors. Might not their competitors make similar posts in order to hurt Digitech. This could explain why some people experience no latency and others experience so much latency they consider it unusable. On the other hand, one user may use it to change from standard E Tuning to Eb tuning and have no issues. Another user may be disappointed because he is expecting the same results but he is using his Pitch Box for more extreme tuning (up 2 octaves).
Furthermore, people who write these reviews tend to do so as a means to justify money that was either well spent or wasted. Do we honestly expect a guy who just spent $8,000 for a Klon Golden Centaur that he just bought on Reverb to provide honest evaluations of the highly rated, yet very affordable Mosky "Mini Silver Horse" &"Mini Golden Horse" pedals, which are very popular Klon-like knockoffs that sell for only $30 on Amazon? (I recently watched a video where a boutique pedal builder couldn't "hear" the difference between a real Klon Centaur and this same Mosky "Mini Golden Horse" knockoff.) Furthermore, the guy who invented the Klon is building them once again. I wouldn't be surprised if he was writing negative reviews of the Mosky online or putting negative comments on TH-cam videos. Sound business practices for this day and age.
One other thing ... specialized
Unlike the more specialized (aka "more limited") Digitech alternatives to their Whammy Pedal, the Moorer Pitch Box offers affordability, yet it manages to do more than a single function. It has 3 distinct modes, each dedicated to its own particular function. Thus, it is critical that the user chooses the correct mode to suit his particular application. With the mode switch in the "up" position, it will act like a harmonizer. In this mode, the user shouldn't expect it to sound like the Digitech Drop Pedal. Otherwise, the user may think the pedal is broken. In this mode (harmonizer mode), It will take the pitch of a guitar solo and shift it up or down by a specified interval (such as a major 3rd, a minor 3rd, a 5th, or a 4th). (In this way, it is similar to the Digitech Drop). However, unlike the Digitech Drop, when the Pitch Box is in harmonizer mode, it combines the original signal with the pitch-shifted signal to create a blended, harmonized solo.
With the mode switch in the center position (pitch shift mode), it will function just like a Digitech Drop. The Pitch Box simply takes the signal from the guitar and pitch shifts it up or down by a specified amount. (However, in this mode (pitch shift mode), the pitch-shifted signal isn't blended with the original signal as it was in harmonizer mode.) With the tweak of the pitch knob, a standard E,A,D,G,B,E guitar can be made to sound as if it is tuned down a half-step, up a half step, down a whole step, down a 3rd, up a 5th, or up an octave, etc.
Finally, with the mode switch in its 3rd or bottom position, the Pitch Box will emulate the Digitech 'Luxe. This is called the detune mode because it has a "detuned chorus" type sound that was originally created by an Eventide Harmonizer. (I don't think it is an exact duplication of the Eventide Harmonizer effect, but it is very close.) Countless users claim that this mode allows them to duplicate EVH's "Van Hagar era" detuned chorus effect by simply setting the pitch knob to the "-2" setting. The videos of The Pitch Box emulating Van Halen on TH-cam back up these claims. IMO, this mode alone justifies the cost of the Pitch Box even if it does nothing else since any other quality alternative will cost $200 or more.
Well, I just ordered my pitch box. I'll let you know how it turns out
If i want to drop the tune... Does the Pitch Fork goes down from half-step to half-step, or from 1 step to 1 step? If my standard tuning is E, but i want it to sound in Eb (or D# , half-step), does ir works? Or goes directly to "D"?
*I'm asking before my cell battery goes off...
It goes step by step down, you would like more the Picthbox, or the Digitech drop
@@helamanavalos9806 Yeah, i finally bought the Mooer Pitch box last month. It works.
@@gringopablo great, I just bought the Digitech drop yesterday, its still in his way to me, but I just discovered that the Pitch Box exists too
@@helamanavalos9806 yeah, today the sales-man told me that also the Digitech Drop arrived to his shop! Damned. Well, i think i'll buy that too, because it's true bypass and has less latency. Also the pitch box, can ve use for harmonies and for " tuning up" (the Digitech Drop, only goes "down"). It might be my christmas present from myself, ha!
Electro harmonix = expensive as hell
Mooer= more affordable
Plus the Mosaic = expensive as hell too. Don't understand why. Anything to try to replicate a 12 string is bank breaking. Including the Jangle box. I swear Rickenbacker is behind it all.
Yeah MOOER is super affordable. At least if you shop around used. Pitch Fork has actually gone up in price alot since i bought mine. With Digitech wait until they close out the Mosaic, pretty sure like my LUXE anti-chorus eventually they will close it out for like $40-$50 new. You have to be on it though. When Harman/Digitech/DOD close out a pedal they go fast.
Since compression is used for 12 strings, and one of the effects for a jangle box and the mosaic, im wondering what combining compression and a pitchbox would sound like?
does the pitch box work like a drop pedal?
because its way cheaper! and i'll buy the mooer
I don't think its what your looking for in that respect. It does polyphonic and it does the lower octave but i'm not sure it does the drop tuning stuff quite like the digitech one.I dont have the drop pedal so im not quite sure. The Pitch Fork does the latch whammy style stuff, the pitch box does not. Are you looking to do the dive bomb style stuff the whammy with the drop does? it can def take you lower but im not sure it has the full chord clarity the drop pedal has. Then again ive not tried the pitch fork size drop pedal i think it does latch mode like the pitch fork except instead of whammy-ing high you can dive bomb corect? Yeah pitch box is great but def watch some more good demos if what it can do.(if there are any...) ill look into the drop pedal more and get back to you with hopefully a better answer. Thanks for watching man
Arukendo yes it does
I had both. Kept the Digitech Drop. A lot more quiet when used in a chain with other pedals (especially acoustic) and noticeably less latency and tone change.
Yes it does. Tried it on my 7 string.
You're misleading... Why in this video it shows it can do drop tunings?
th-cam.com/video/KlwaKLf-4Yo/w-d-xo.html
Can it do drop tunings though? I dont think it can too well, its good for harmony and octave and detune stuff but for DROP tuning i think that Digitech is the way to go the or the Morpheous Drop tune pedal if you can find one used mint cheaper. Pros use those for drop tuning the mooer pitch box is great for the $ and for what it does in that little box for cheap. However id say it would be more misleading for me to tell you yes buy it its an awesome droptune pedal. I really honestly dont think it is. Digitech and Morpheous drop tune are more solid on that front. Thats my opinion. Thanks/cheers luke