My mom had stage 4 cancer, was given the option to terminate pregnancy or die, she refused to terminate, after she gave birth they gave her 6 months to live, she is still alive today and so is my sibling.
Ok. But every single woman must be given the choice. And it is always ok for her to put herself and life first. Not every pregnancy is desired or a blessing
@@emmaleebuzzard1023none of your business. If I want to get a million abortions I will do so, I wouldn’t contact you to ask for your permission, Emma.
this is too funny and these women aren hyper narcissists: "hi. you lied in the screening process and are loaded with cancer genes. Do not have our kid. Please go away" woman: "WOOOOW IS THIS MISOGNY!? YOU DONT LIKE MY CANCER GENES? THAT'S DISCRIMINATION!" Jesus christ.
You don’t know if they believe that gender is a social construct. I’d say MOST gay men/people don’t think gender is a social construct. That is a radical idea not shared by most of the queer community.
You are so spot on….Since they claim gender is a “social construct”,they could have simply “assigned” the baby whatever gender they preferred. The jokes write themselves.
When I was 5 months pregnant my OB performed an ultrasound then afterward handed me a paper written on his prescription pad for me to take to a doctor specializing in more sophisticated ultrasounds. He told me to make an appointment without telling me what he’d written. When I got outside I opened the folded paper upon which was written: “Check for cranial-facial abnormalities.” Numb with shock I drove to my husband’s workplace. He read it and calmly assured me that whatever the outcome God was going to be with us. I went through the next ultrasound fully expecting this doctor to tell me there was absolutely nothing wrong with my baby. Nope. He said we needed to make an appointment with the Genetics Institute in Pasadena for more evaluations. Amazingly, as I was waiting for this next appointment I was becoming supernaturally calm and falling in love with my baby. I had no sense that if there was something wrong with my child that God was going to make everything “right.” What I so strongly felt was that whatever the state of my child, God was going to help us love and care for him. And every day brought more love and care into my heart for my baby. We went to the Genetics Institute. They performed yet another ultrasound. Once again, we were told there was something wrong. His limbs were out of proportion to the rest of his body. Although this was unwelcome news, my husband and I were ok. We were committed to our child however he turned out. The doctors and nurses left the room saying they would return shortly. When they returned they started setting up some equipment. We asked what they were doing. Without asking us first if we agreed to it, they said they were going to perform an amniocentesis. Shocked at this my husband asked if there was any risk to the baby and what was the reason for the procedure? They flatly stated, as if this was the most logical and reasonable thing to do, that with the results of this test we could decide whether to abort our child. I was speechless. My amazing husband said without any wavering, “There is no result that would ever move us to abort our child.” They looked surprised, but they had another trick up their sleeve. They implored us to go to UCLA for yet another ultrasound. I can only assume that they were trying to scare us and wear us down. But we agreed. They said UCLA was prepared to take us right in with no waiting. At UCLA we received the same news after another ultrasound. “We won’t know what’s wrong with your baby unless you consent to an amniocentesis. But he surely has some kind of syndrome.” Once again we declined. I can only think that we continued to agree to all these ultrasounds for the beautiful testimony it would later yield. We returned home and I was confined to complete bed rest for the remaining 4 months of the pregnancy. Friends helped us while my husband worked, to help us care for our firstborn 3 year old son who had been born 2 months prematurely and I had almost died of preeclampsia. A week before my son was due to be born, a sonogram revealed that he was under stress and labor needed to be induced. My husband left my side to pick up his mother flying in from out of state. My Obstetrician took that moment , when I was alone, to tell me gravely, that he, “had grave doubts about the genetic viability of my child.” It didn’t even faze me. I felt such love and peace about my child, knowing that healthy or unhealthy, God was going to help us care for him. I made some assuring remark and proceeded to get to work birthing my baby. As soon as my beautiful baby was born they needed to rush him into the NICU. I reached out to stop them saying, please let me see his face! It was perfect. My doctor was practically doing a dance. My son was perfect. He was just very small. At full term he only weighed 4 pounds. The condition was called Maternal Insufficiency and these days doctors know that mothers who have had a premature birth caused by maternal high blood pressure can have complications with subsequent pregnancies. What if my husband and I had been scared into aborting our child? I think many couples might have taken that route. The idea seemed to be, we don’t want or need imperfect children in this world. Well, the world would have been a less populated place if my son hadn’t been born. As a Law Enforcement Officer he has saved many lives. He was awarded a medal for going into a home with an active shooter where a man had shot his wife and she lay on the floor bleeding out. His swift medical actions which he was trained to give saved the woman’s life. Later he was off duty at the Mandalay Bay Casino concert when the killer, Steven Paddock, committed the deadliest mass shooting in US History. He immediately went into professional mode and helped rescue the wounded and evacuate the venue while the shooter continued his rampage. For months after, my son suffered from PTSD. We cannot play God. He has a calling upon every human whether perfectly or imperfectly formed. Ask Nick Vujicic.
God bless you and your family. It is truly uplifting to see a husband and wife who believes so strongly in our Lord and faithful that He will provide everything we need. As you know… we are fearfully and wonderfully made. ❤🙏🏻
If you're 'still traumatized' from an alleged sexual assault by a male, and it's so bad that you wouldn't be able to accept a baby boy then you are not ready to have any children at all. That couple should be ashamed of themselves.
Exactly what I thought to myself. That poor little boy will most likely be treated in horrendous ways because his own mother hates men. Pray for God to keep his hand upon that innocent child.
Well said…..I feel like an agency should be able to refuse people for this line reasoning. But agencies just want their check. Anyone with that mindset should not children, I can only imagine the negative indoctrination their child would endure. Wouldn’t be surprised if they groomed their child to hate men or be afraid of boys & men
We do not find it acceptable for parents to let their children to starve to death nor leave them in hot cars to die…. but parents can leave their living, breathing babies to die? This is murder, plain and simple. God help us all.
Yeah I was taken aback watching this and thought maybe I misunderstood... let me get this straight, the baby was born fine but the doctors ended the baby's life?? is that not illegal?? Yes God help us please.
Contract aside, how is it legal to let a baby be born alive and just not give them any lifesaving treatment?? How is birth not even the boundary line for murder anymore?
I'm in Germany and abortion is technically always illegal but "not punished" in the first trimester after a compulsory consultation with a social worker, or if the mother's psychological or physical wellbeing is severely threatened or after rape. The psychological indication is used in the majority of cases where baby is predicted to be disabled. In 2012 a woman was pregnant with twins and one of them was disabled. She did not want to have that twin, but didn't want to endanger her wanted twin. So a gynecologist for "difficult cases" was consulted and planned to "abort" that twin at 34 weeks and then deliver the healthy twin. But the mother started labor before that, so she did a c-section on the mother, pulled out the healthy twin, then killed the disabled baby with a toxic injection and then pulled it out. She documented it as a stillbirth. The present assistant staff were so traumatized by this and could not forget about it that they anonymously tipped off the police years later. How someone who vowed to help and heal humans can have such a stone cold heart is incredible to me. She and her boss only got a year and a few months probation for manslaughter. The justices said it is not allowed to sort out unwanted children. So even with more restrictive laws than in many parts of the USA, this isn't considered murder...
🤯🤯🤯 My husband have 7 children... 5 biological and 2 boys we just (unexpectedly 😳) added to our family. I'm glad that child is with Jesus. 😭 "Let the little children come to me." 😭😭😭
This is so obviously murder, absolutely shocking, just because he was a baby he doesn't have the same human rights like everyone else, they even knew he was a boy, how is that just a fetus and a glob of cells and not a human?
I was shocked to hear too that it's the woman's body and choice was completely ignored here, they always talk about that when it comes to abortion and the father is never allowed to force abortion but here the fathers where allowed to force abortion just because she was a surrogate. Imo surrogacy should be illegal because it's buying the body of a woman (many likely in vulnerable situations to do something like this to their own health) but it makes me absolutely sick that she a surrogate doesn't have the same rights for her own body like other pregnant women, I can't imagine the effects on a surrogats mental health to be forced abortion. If surrogacy is allowed there needs to be better rights for the surrogate mother and baby, at least have the same rights as any other women and the last word about the baby until adoption, like rights to chance her mind, to either keep or chose abortion against the will of the people who buy a baby as it's her body and health, not theirs.
It reminds me of the story I just saw where this gay couple left their infant daughter in a car for over 12 hours and remembered she wasn’t in the house at like freaking midnight. She died and they were also in the process of adopting a second kid. They shouldn’t be able to ever again point blank period. They just neglected the first one by “forgetting” her in a car and she died.
Why would you allow yourself into a situation where you knew the parents had the right to demand an abortion? I mean NOBODY would force me into an abortion, even if I signed the docs.
She did say labor was induced which means the mother didn't allow the pregnancy to continue. She should have done Safe Surrender and trusted God to help her finish the pregnancy. Chemo is nothing but poison.
I watched eggploitation which discussed egg harvesting and it was brutal. Society paints a pretty picture which often lacks what happens behind closed doors
I hope those sorry excuses for "fathers" are not ever allowed to buy any more babies. Filthy. Evil. Selfish. And I hope she never agrees to this monstrous process again.
I hope they get charged with infanticide for failing to give their son life saving care. It's no different, in fact worse actually, than a mom who gives birth outside the hospital and fails to call 911 resulting in the baby's death. They were well informed, had every option, and still chose not to save him, or allow others to save him. That's murder.
This is child trafficking, plain and simple. There’s a trade fir goods and service for a price. Life is beautiful and priceless, and not everyone is worthy of it. There’s a reason a single male or same sex couples can’t have children. Doctors and other women shouldn’t be facilitating such abomination. God save these children ❤
And to deprive a child of a mother then coerce it into perversion like their diabolical donors ( refuse to call them dads) (likely including SA) tells you how depraved America has become
My understanding is that she had to abort because she could no longer delay cancer treatment. The problem begins after the baby is born, and she contractually gave up the rights to her child and what happened to him. All three of these people are messed up.
💯! Human trafficking in its most overt form. 😢 (Never give your child up for adoption to a gay couple. Don’t agree to be a surrogate for a homosexual couple. There are way too many Christian, heterosexual couples who medically can’t have their own their children who would love to give a baby a home. And children deserve a family as God designed it to be. Why start then out disadvantaged for some adults playing fantasy house. This story is the epitome of selfishness. 😢)
@@chilltartsI 100% agree, same sex couples should NEVER be allowed to have a child by surrogacy, they give up that right when they enter into same sex relationship/marriage (which I don’t agree with either) The changes it made to everything about “fluid gender” and all the “woke idiots”is crazy. I curse the day it became legal in Australia 😡 I certainly didn’t vote in favour of that becoming legal, it’s just wrong. I know a lot of gays from when I worked at a telecommunications company and honestly the ones I know were AGAINST it, they were quiet happy to continue having their little ceremonies that they used to have before the laws were changed.
the surrogates make 30,000-70,000 for a child, so its a money making machine. I agree this is buy selling and trading human beings legally..this woman acted so disconnected about the baby in her womb, she choose herself over the child in her womb ultimately bc well she approached this situation like you would a job, this is taking womanhood and motherhood for granted, and this is a way to make alot of money for just being pregnant, i see were people who could so easily get on board to make alot of money really quickly and not see were its morally/ethically wrong..
@@rebeccaperson8581 the fact that he is deaf may be why he lives at home. a lot times they move away to school fairly young. there is probably more to that story though. the average person can't afford surrogacy on top of buying eggs.
Hearing stories about gay and lesbian couples suing because they didn't get the baby the gender they wanted is suspicious. Why do they want their babies to be a certain sex so badly?
Not only is this a disgrace on behalf of those men bit also a disgrace on behalf of the medical and legal system surrounding surrogacy in the US. The fact a baby was allowed to die unnecessarily because of legalities is completely nuts. In the UK, the baby belongs to the woman who births it and she then gives up her rights. This would have saved this baby.
From what I understand she wanted to deliver early so that she could have life saving treatment for herself. She wanted the baby to be given life saving care after birth but at that point the doctors have to listen to the men who paid for the baby. From what I understand she had an induced labor. She certainly didn't have a typical abortion at that stage because usually a late term abortion includes killing the baby via a needle in the babies heart and then a dissection and suction of the baby. Understandably she doesn't want to discuss it in detail but it sounds like she had an induced labor with a live birth but at that stage she lost all rights to the child.
@@dejayne8246 SO WRONG. A baby is a precious human being created in God's image, NOT the property of anyone to do with as they wish. The doctors didn't HAVE TO listen to the men who "paid for" this baby boy. They had the choice to do the RIGHT thing and give this little guy his RIGHT to live. Wrong in EVERY way.
Exactly the baby should always belong to the mother until adoption. They always talk how it's her body and choice so the same human rights should go here too that it's her body and choice and not the people buy her body, those people who buy a body and baby can just keep their months shit as far as I see and be thankful she is giving them such a gift, to have a baby is not a damn human right.
And I'm even more shocked that it wasn't even an abortion and that it was late stage and they just let a baby die, how isn't it murder? Late stage abortion should be illegal too (except to save the life of the mother). I'm so shocked and sad that they would murder a baby, I would have loved to care for the baby. I don't understand how these men could be so cruel, so many people want a baby, why didn't they let someone else have the baby if they dont want a disabled baby? They can easily do this again. I really hope these 2 monsters got hate for murdering a baby and I would wish at least that they're not allowed to use a surrogate again. I have a guestion so in US if you have a baby and it is born early or has a disability you are allowed to let the baby die or not feed it and starve to death (if they dont die by themselves) without it being considered murder, manslaughter or at least child abuse? And what day or week does a baby get same human rights like everyone else? Because clearly a newborn doesn't have human rights if the men where allowed to let him just die, just unbelievably shocking, so dark and cruel.
@@teijaflink2226 Abortion is never necessary to save the life of the mother. It's always been the case that when a pregnancy is threatening the mom's life, they let the baby mature as long as possible then either induce labor or take it by c-section, then rush to give it everything it needs to survive. What the Dobbs decision did was give each state the authority to decide what they would do with abortion laws. In CA, it's "legal" to kill your baby up to a MONTH after birth. I agree, extremely sickening, shocking, dark and cruel. 😭😡
As a woman who is married to a man & have been battling actual infertility for 6 years, this enrages me. Children & fertility have been made a business thanks to people like these “men”. What is wrong with people?!!!
My son was born at 24 weeks and will be 21 years old this fall. He is so very kind and creative. It deeply breaks my heart that at around the same stage of life, this little baby was discarded. Shame on those men. All life has value!
Your lucky. I know many women who have delivered that early and their children didn’t make it. If I’m honest I know more whose didn’t than did. Most don’t, in fact, make it when they arrive so soon. Could this child have survived? Perhaps, but the chances are higher that the poor babe wouldn’t have. Let’s be realistic. At that stage they are so tiny they fit could fit in the palm of your hand. They seem translucent and look like beautifully, tiny, little pixies or cherubs. Almost like a small fragile doll one might break just by touching it. Does this make what the couple did justifiable? No. But they probably thought they were being realistic and didn’t want the child to suffer. 🤷🏻♀️
@@M.Campbell-Sherwoodso it's better to ☠️ your child than try to save their lives? Should we wipe out all the child cancer wards then and use it for something else? My husband was born at 24 weeks and the doctors had the same vile mentality as you. They made his mother feel so bad and terrified her by saying he was going to be a R word and to not expect him to live longer than a few weeks and if he does he will be extremely small all his life. They were wrong and even if they thought those things they shouldn't say them. Kids deserve a chance at life and you don't get to decide they're not worth some temporary pain
@@M.Campbell-Sherwood I know a quick google search is by no means the answer or be-all truth, but a quick google search gives me: "For babies born at 25 or 26 weeks the chance of survival if they receive intensive treatment is about 80%." So most likely, they would have survived. Over 30 years ago(!), a 21 week baby survived.
@@M.Campbell-SherwoodMOST 24 week preemies do survive. 73.3% survive according to the National Library of Medicine. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9903864/#:~:text=Survival%20for%20infants%20born%20at,infants%20at%20periviable%20gestational%20age.
@@nette9836 I used to identify that way, too. I still find ladies very pretty, but I don't lust after them anymore. Learning more about God and putting Him before myself made all the difference.
I hope women rethink surrogacy. So many risks and unknowns. The study of epigenetics is new and these babies are connected to the woman that give birth to them regardless of the egg's origin. Your blood, your nutrients, the sound of your heartbeat...the baby is taken away from what they know as their mother.
I was all for surrogacy until I myself became a mother.. women are powerful creatures who can absolutely turn off their emotions and deny their own needs for the sake of survival. Money is security especially for your “own” children.. but no one can convince me this whole process isn’t incredibly painful for mom and baby.
Yes absolutely. And just like in infant adoption, young moms are often being convinced by everyone that they are doing the best, most selfless thing for the child and adoptive parents. What babies really need is the mom that carried them. Only in certain limited circumstances should they be separated. Doing this voluntarily for profit as an industry (both surrogacy and adoption) is human trafficking.
I'm sure I am going to offend a number of people, but I am trying to speak the truth in love. Surrogacy is a bad practice all the way around. All you have to do is look at Sarah and Hagar to see why surrogacy is bad. This woman invited a whole bunch of demonic stuff against herself and her family by participating. I'm sad the baby died. I am sad she was put into this nightmare, but she largely put herself into this nightmare and her family. Two men or two women not being able to have children is not infertility problems. It is a sin problem. God never intended two men or two women to marry, procreate, or cohabitate in a sexual relationship. We do not get to decide our own sexual mores. God gets to determine that for humanity. We do not get to decide if our wombs are closed or not. That is God's ultimate decision. And I speak as a single, childless 51 year old woman so I know what I am talking about about the pain of not having children.
My first child was born at 24 weeks and died due to medical malpractice. His arm was ripped almost completely off during delivery. It was the most painful and traumatic experience I’ve ever been through. I still think about it daily. I hemorrhaged as well. But I still held my baby for 10 hours until the hospital absolutely had to take him. I had a funeral home already lined up to handle everything from there. I just don’t understand how ppl can be so cold to innocent babies. So so sad.
I'm so sorry. There should be legal recourse for women who have lost a child due to medical malpractice. 24 weeks...there's no reason they couldn't have done more to save them. I truly understand your sorrow.
I'm sorry. I had 24 weeker and they did all they could for him. It's a 50/50 chance your baby lives. So you'll never get a court to give you a judgement for a poor 24 week birth if they only gave a 50/50 viable chance yo live. I'm sorry
As the mother of a thriving 16 month old 33 week preemie, my heart is so grieved by the selfishness of these 2 men. I pray they repent and ask forgiveness for so calously discarding this baby and abusing the surrogate in her own time of need.
I have 3 severely preemie babies in my family. One is in her early 20's, pursuing a master's degree, one will start her senior year in August, and one, well... she is a 3 year old bombshell. I love each one of them, even if they are only my cousins. I will fight for the preemies.
I'm currently holding my barely 35-week preemie who is now 3 months old, and miraculously beyond thriving and needed zero interventions, despite being almost 6 weeks early! He is now way above the growth curve for his age and developmentally above the charts! I couldn't agree more! ❤
Because these men wanted total control over the situation and also to punish the mother. They chose to do the exact opposite of what she asked to show that theirs will be the final word. I imagine the baby's remains will be displayed and used as props when they tell the dramatic story of how they lost a son.
I saw a documentary a while ago about a gay couple in the uk using ivf. They had a pre teen daughter who was asking about her mum and whether she could ever meet her, it was heartbreaking. She was overweight and they kept emphasising how they were selecting their new egg donor from a catalogue of models in the us, that they had essentially upgraded and were paying a huge fee for the eggs and showing photos of her from the catalogue to the existing children talking about how thin and attractive she was, the implication being that their daughter didn’t meet their expectations. Like they had wanted an attractive doll to dress up. It made me feel physically sick to see the girl reacting to the emotionally abusive and very confusing situation. Or the thought of her needing to go to them when she gets her first period & their potential reaction. Kids should come first in this always & they need a father and mother whether they remain in the child’s life or not at least they have an opportunity to have a relationship with them.
I'm sorry, but I would have gone on the run, had the baby in secret at a catholic hospital who would have tried to save the baby (and I know several 25 week babies that are doing fine), gave it up for adoption, and spent the rest of my life in lawsuits if that's what it took to save the baby. California is a horrible state, and I would have literally left the state and found one. I have read so many stories of couples that just want the "perfect" baby and are willing to sacrifice others to get it. They are seen as commodities, not children. AND I completely disagree about helping a gay couple rob a child of the other sex parent. I have experienced this in my own family, and my grand nephew is a mess from not having a father. He feels it. Daily. And expresses it, no matter how many people are loving him, even his "step" dad. My last question is: did she get the cv sharp thing? Because turbo cancers are on the rise, and being linked as well. It may not be surrogacy itself, but the pre-treatments or mid-treatments she agreed to.
Well that phrase "perfect baby". All babies are perfect to their parents. So many mentally healthy parents would be overjoyous just for having a baby, even if the baby is autistic. I agree. If I was foolish enough to agree to surrogacy, and the "parents" wanted me to abort him because of who he is, I would go on the run and into hiding. Legally change my name and fake my death I have to. These people literally believe that life is actually the Sims 4, and they think they can customize and design their babies, and then delete them if they don't like them. It's sick and demonic.
Exactly we need to protect the baby. She literally stated they couldn't force her abort the baby but then she says she went to another that still let the baby die? Sickening.
I'm a Christian conservative in Canada. I can't have kids naturally due to surgery & my husband & I are trying to adopt. I generally am against excessive government over-regulation & over-reach into every area of life...but surrogacy is one area I'm grateful our government has put limitations on. I had no idea this industry was so exploitative & straight up sick. Children are not a commodity. They are not a car you pick out, or a pair of shoes. I'm so saddened by not just this story, but the stories in Allie's introduction. Horrific.
Dear Kelly. God bless you and your husband for trying to adopt. There is a higher wisdom to learn for you, and all non-fertil individuals that God only knows. You are fulfiling your mission on earth, in this lifetime, just accepting your situation and helping adandoned childrens to became happy, decent human beings.
The bad thing is even the adoption industry is corrupt and driven by money, not the needs of the mother and child. Young mothers are coerced into giving baby away, and in some states signing rights away before she understands what it will feel like to be a mother.
@@janae6524 I'm certain this is true, I'm unsure how it goes in the U.S. but in Canada adoption is very regulated, & in my province even more so (Saskatchewan). I also know there are some major issues with adoption when looking for an infant straight from an expecting mother. If we adopt it will be after doing thorough research on any agency we use, going through countries who respect the Hague Convention, & also through a great deal of prayer. It has to be God's plan, not ours! We don't plan to adopt a baby, rather we want to take in older siblings who have lost a parent, or who need help & love. I don't want anybody to suffer in our efforts to have a family - I want the opposite. So if it can't be done ethically it won't be done at all, or we will simply foster instead.
I am struggling to feel compassion for this woman. The question that should have been asked is if she would have been a surrogate with no financial gain. Obviously she did it for the money. What a sad life! To have to rent your body for 9 months. She seems so naive to expect these people to care about her. Of course it was a financial transaction for them. Oh, and she’s still pro surrogacy 🤦♀️ The reason surrogacy is allowed to go unchecked in this country is because it’s the rich and more financially secure people who mostly benefit from this. Who will defend the lower income women trying to make a living? Women need to stand up to this, know their worth, and refuse to participate in this exploitative industry.
My sister had housing and drug money to carry her baby. They knew she had needles in her arm and did nothing. She birthed, they gave her more money, and they put her back on the street to do it again. I was many states away and my niece was sold for drugs before I even knew she was pregnant. Ironically her adopted family lives in my state. I got to meet my Daisy, but it absolutely killed me that I never had the chance to help her. My sister has been addicted to hardcore drugs, a sex worker, and living in the streets, in and out of jail, for the last 10 years. And there are systems that encourage her to make and sell drug babies. Absolutely heart breaking
They didn't even care about the baby. They cared about their money and what they had "ordered." If they truly cared about the baby they would have cared about this woman's health because she is carrying the baby.
Right, She messed up their order so they just want to cancel it. They prefer to start over with a different seller and end this whole nightmare. They probably have extra embryos anyway that they planned on discarding. If they never got the baby from her, they probably have to pay less for the surrogate, So why pay full price for potentially damage goods. They were making a financial decision by cutting their losses.
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They probably wanted his remains because they were worried that the surrogate and the doctors would conspire to keep this precious child alive, against their will. The remains were proof. Sickening.
This is utterly heartbreaking. I cannot understand how it is legal to refuse that little baby care postpartum and this woman is so clearly traumatized by this experience. I hope you continue to be strong and vocal about these atrocities.
Exactly, Why is this not infanticide?? If a baby is born in a bathroom and the mom doesn't call 911 and let's it die she is absolutely charged with murder.
Note that the mother pointedly refuses to answer Allie's question as to whether this was a live birth, and never refers to the child as being alive at birth. This was apparently a stillbirth and no treatment was withheld. While this incident raises interesting hypothetical questions, it's being exploited to make a point regarding something that didn't occur.
Clearly a law chance is needed if this is not considered murder. If a parent didn't feel an older child that surely would be murder right so why is this not?
And this lady is complicit. I will pray that she has a repentant heart and turns to the mercy of our Lord Jesus. It is the only way she will be able to heal from the inevitable guilt she will bear for being complicit in this gravely immoral act. At this point she doesn’t seem repentant as she still doesn’t see the evil of surrogacy.
Why is this lady making excuses for these people. They aren’t good people, the personas they presented to her at first were the lie. They showed their true colors in the end.
Even though you were seeking emotional fulfillment, this was nothing more than a business deal for the men. They were paying you big bucks to be a “rented uterus”. Therein lies the problem. Children are NOT a business deal. They’re precious, innocent babies., but in this horrific case this baby was dispensable. I pray that you will be able to come to a place of peace & healing over what happened.
Exactly sickening 🤢. I mean it's still raw for her for what happened she's so shut down. But the part of the story here that is rough is she willingly goes out of her way to grow babies for same sex couples because she thinks she's morally doing the "right" thing and then look what her own ideology did to her.
The way she talks about having a baby as a task, makes me not feel bad for her. There should be a rule that if the “parents” don’t want the baby, it should belong to the surrogate. I would prefer this to be illegal, period, it’s so heartless and devalues human life.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728Yeah...no. Absolutely not. Outlawed and and enforced cessation of the people who committed and enforced the murder of the innocent.
Just listened to a speech from a woman born of surrogacy and how her life was filled with fears of abandonment and the whole process is from selfishness of the intended parents. Very insightful I imagine this is common. Playing God.
I believe abortion, IVF, and surrogacy should be abolished. Children are not objects to be purchased or discarded based on the emotions of adults. Being a parent is a responsibility and God will hold us accountable for how we treat and care for children, the most vulnerable and innocent members of the human race. Repent and believe on Jesus Christ for salvation from sin.
They wanted this precious babies remains so they can showcase him and be victims. They can claim they wanted him but the mom had cancer and couldn't carry him full term, so now this is all we have of our son.
This poor lady has obviously bought into the liberal ideology to even get into this situation with these men. She made excuses for these evil men and in denial of who these gay men really are. Hoping and praying she survives this cancer. This story is absolutely horrible. Know one gave this child saving measures after his birth. Unbelievable! So sad for her. Allie did a good job of gently summarizing what they did to her and how they treated her like a commodity and trash.
Yes, I also found the justification for entering into the contract a bit confusing. However, we are all children of the zeitgeist / our time and it causes us to make bad decisions and from the consequences get wise the hard way. I do hope being confronted with this cruelty will make her an advocate of the value of human life and womanhood
The liberal ideology is about personal freedom. And keeping government out of ones personal live except to protect women (and children) against abuse and exploitation
These men should not be fathers since they do not understand that life is not perfect. We can only hope they do not try again. Can you imagine the cold hearted fathers they will be....
It’s crazy how that teenager Lexi is getting charged with murder for killing her baby in the hospital, yet the hospitals do the same thing and get a pay day.
Exactly. Reminds me of the biblical story where two women were arguing over a baby; one was okay with killing the child while the actual mother said, no, don't kill it.
Exactly how I felt sadly 😬 I was very bothered that she was so “hurt” by these men’s actions…she is a womb for rent PERIOD…. It was like she was trying to form a bond with these men…. Also have a HUGE issue with her being so happy about providing a gay couple with a baby…. Babies deserve and MOTHER and a FATHER! Sad story all around
These men don’t deserve to be parents. Being a parent means sacrificing your own selfishness to meet the needs of your child. How would they have responded if the child was diagnosed with a learning disability? Deaf or hard of hearing? Autism? Grown up to struggle with addiction? The list is endless! It’s all part of being a parent. Parenthood is learning to accept the unexpected. These men should be ashamed of them selfish behavior. God bless this momma, her family, and the sweet little boy she gave birth to. This is truly tragic and awful.
True enough - but those two dudes are members of a community who are far more concerned about their "rights" than anything - I should say anyone - else. Sacrifice plays no part in what they do.
As a postpartum doula, I've taken care of many babies conceived through various forms of reproductive technology, but mostly IVF and embryo adoptions. And while all of these kids have been a blessing to their families, this exposure to all the conditions changed my mind about the industry. I became very concerned about what I was seeing even in these situations where there were two parent that were middle to upper class and fully functional families that had the interest and resources to hire postpartum support. The complication of having multiples, the health issues of the babies and the mental and physical health of the parents, the feeding challenges, the abusive conditions for egg donors and surrogates, the rapid cancers after hormones usage to harvest eggs and foster pregnancy, the financial and emotional drain on couples going through round after round, and all the wanton death of embryos and fetuses, etc, etc. Even in these "best of all cases" situations that I see and care for first hand, the negatives rare really disturbing and often times unethical.
I don't understand how a hospital can legally not provide life-saving treatment for a born baby just because the parents say so? Isn't that totally unethical?
Tragic. It strikes me that even with the cancer and the difficult delivery and the cancer treatment , the worst blow must have been the cruel indifference of the two monsters who she had believed were decent human beings . God help any child who ends up with those heartless monsters.
This is why two men in a sexual relationship are not supposed to have babies. Reminds me of the case king Solomon moderated over in 1kings 3:16. One was adamant about killing the baby as long as the other woman didn’t get to keep the baby. She didn’t care that it was a human life. It is obvious that these men did not care whatsoever about the surrogate mother or “their” child. I dream of a day when surrogacy/ adoption wouldn’t be available to gay couples. Children should be the results of a loving relationship cultivated in marriage. Just the way God designed it to be.
This situation is so evil. That baby was wanted by many people. He should not have died. There needs to be legal reform for surrogacy. What a nightmare!
I think it's sad she thought it was almost noble to provide two gay men with a baby. If I insisted on a straight couple I'd have been accused of homophobia.
I was thinking this too last year when I wanted to give my baby up for adoption due to abusive relationship. I’m so glad I didn’t. I later saw the rate of p*doph*lic abuse that happens with gay couples. There’s a really sad court case of two gay men adopting boys and abusing them so badly. It gives off red flags here and in the case she mentioned that the gay couple sued because they wanted a son
Specially sad as these evil men clearly just saw her as body and baby a doll they are buying and not a human. These monsters should not be allowed to have a baby, they treated the baby like they are buying a luxury bag.
This breaks my heart! I had a grandson born on January 25th (due to my daughter having fast onset preeclampsia) at 1 day short of 27 weeks gestation, spent 3 months in the nicu. He’s 5 1/2 months old now, and absolutely gorgeous! Coos and smiles, and now starting to laugh out loud! He melts my heart each time I look at his sweet face! Hard to imagine that even at my grandson’s gestational age, babies can be aborted or not given medical attention 😢.
My 27 weeker nephew is going to be two in September. From being so tiny placed in a bag like a little chicken to keep him warm , now he’s a big boisterous boy
Its crazy that a baby can be denied care. If someone wants the baby, let them have it! No person should be alowed to just discard a baby like that. This womans expirence must have been so hard, so heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing your story. Prayers for your cancer journey. 🙏
I’m not surprised two men with obvious no morality would do such a horrific thing. The whole rent a womb thing is disgusting and should not be legal. My daughter is 24 weeks pregnant and I feel my granddaughter move in her belly and I’m in love with her. I pray those evil men never have a child. They chose a dead child over giving their child a chance. And why could she not say what happened with the baby??? Prob because the hospital committed infanticide and let the baby die.
This was very difficult to listen to. I am praying for Britney’s health. It’s hard to know the coldness of hearts that a precious life is stomped out! He is with Jesus now!
This was murder! People need to be held accountable and tried by a court of law. Every one stood by while this baby struggled to survive when all the tools to help him survive were available! Shame upon them , may God show mercy to these blinded men and women before it’s too late!
I have always been strongly against surrogacy. It is presented as a loving thing to do but I believe the bonding between the unborn child and the mother is incredibly important. I'm not aware if there are studies about the well-being of children born then given up by the the one that birthed them, but I would think there are issues the child would face of rejection. We think we are doing the right thing but if its not part of Gods natural order, it will always fail. This video is just one example.
they have known for over a century that the childs primary bond is with the mother and that when that bond is interrupted it leads to mental health issues or behavioural problems down the track.. it is why in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that the rights of the mother /child bond should be protected. As you say - they are comforted by her heart beat. Haivng said that it has now been decades of interrupting mother hood, (Intergenerational trauma and family separation and dysfunction with the breakdown of the family unit) many mothers no longer know how to be good mothers.. and we as a society should be supporting mothers to raise psychologically stable children in the absence of good male /father role models. Boys need to be supported to become good fathers but government is fixated on having men and women generate income while they take responsibility fo the children through the education and health system, and failing miserably and then blaming the parents while stopping parents from being good parents. When you scan your eyes on the increase in mental illness, violence, and substance abuse you can see the outcome of interrupting the bond .
@thevocalcrone spot on! Mental illness is completely due to the breakdown of the nuclear family and the aid of big pharma. The other thing that is well known and completely ignored is the young confused children who are told to take puberty blockers when 75%+ will grow out of that confusion if left alone. The only reason they are going through that confused phase is because of what you've mentioned.... break down of family and the government stepping in with the perversion being pushed. The world had gone mad!
There is a talk by Julie Bindel on TH-cam about womens rights and surrogacy that everyone should watch, she goes into horrifying details about the trauma of both mother and child.
The books “the primal wound” and “coming home to self” by Nancy Newton verrier talk about this in regards to adoption, and the lifelong trauma ramifications kids and families end up with
No, having a baby cannot be a "job". It's simply wrong to sell the use of a female body and to sign a contract over a baby. A couple of years ago there was a case here in Italy in which a couple bought a surrogate child and left the girl with a babysitter in Ucraine (surrogacy isn't legal in Italy) telling her they would soon come back to fetch her, but just abbandoned the child with that woman. Luckily the babysitter was more conscientious and loving than the "parents". She called the Italian embassy and the girl was then adopted by another family in Italy. That child could just have disappeared.
As women we fully understand how precious a life is because we are the ones carrying them. Men cannot understand and I think that’s why it was so easy and selfish on their part to proceed with the abortion.
Allie, you did a great job interviewing someone you fundamentally disagree with. You showed compassion and listened. Yet you were still truthful where you stood
What is hard for me with this story beyond the obvious murder of an innocent baby... Why did this mom agree to go to the other hospital. She said legally they had no rights to force her to do anything while she was carrying the baby. Why didn't she just say no, proceed with her cancer treatments and wait until later for an induction...
She had to have a different chemo that would have killed the baby because it spread to the liver. My sil had ovarian cancer and did treatment while pregnant. It depends on the stage and how aggressive the cancer is.
What sort of woman carries and gives birth to a baby to hand over to two gay men? It's gross! But it pays quite well $$$, which is how all these gay male couples end up raising children. I hope Brittney's cancer treatments are successful for the sake of her other kids. For someone so young to have such an aggressive cancer, the hormone treatments and pregnancy MUST have played a role.
She doesn't want to talk about how long he lived. guilt. She helped kill a child. I know women who had cancer who refused treatment untilbthe child was born. Its very telling how often she referred to him as an "it". Other people wanted to adopt it. She had no care at all for that child. It was all about the money for her. She even refuse to hold him as he was left to die. I believe in God. Her job? To give a child to people who did not deserve a child? Sick men, sick woman. They all will stand before God and be judged. Doctors too.
As someone who was unable to have my own child(ren), I find this absolutely HORRIFIC. I can't help but be absolutely disgusted by these stories, as well as stories of C.A. Where is the justice? How is this right? Omg, I'm just speechless and angry.
The lesson learned is sin takes one further than they wanted to go. Why would she enable homosexuals to be fathers? It’s all a moral morass. In God’s tender mercies He took the baby’s life to eternal life and avoided a lot of legal battling that would have occurred if the precious soul had survived.
Back in the 80's and 90's I was a labor and delivery nurse. I attended a Perinatal conference in Dearborn, MI and one of the speakers was the lawyer for Mary Beth Whitehead, one of the first surrogate mothers in the US. She decided several days after delivering Baby M that she didn't want to give her up (the baby was conceived using her egg and the adoptive fathers sperm) and that started a legal battle which she lost. At the time it was big news and I realized we were heading the wrong direction in legalizing surrogacy. Too many tangled webs. Same thing with "sexed" embryo's. We are knocking on the door of Communist China and India in their preference for male children, aborting and terminating the pregnancy if it's a female. So sad what our society is becoming.
I battled infertility because of infertility. My daughter (born full term) had major, major medical problems. The Dr's said she was brain dead. My husband (now ex) signed the papers for comfort cares, she would die by morning according to Dr's. She's now 26 y o and graduated college in june with a health services degree. No, i didn't take fertility treatment, 13 uears between my 2 kids. I believe, i was supposed to be her Mom.
Born alive and then not given live saving care because after the baby was born, the dads had 5hr right to it and that was their decision. Before birth-- her choices (she decided to deliver not terminate), after birth--the dads choices and they chose termination. Sooo sick!!
How can they say terminate when the baby is VIABLE at 25 weeks. I am losing my mind over this story, these men were given SO much power of this woman and her womb, I mean wowwwww
In the United States (in many states) abortion is legal up and until labor…..well into the 9th month. It’s disgusting and horrific yes but sadly our country is as bad as or worse than Sodom and Gomorrah!
At 25 weeks there's a chance of delivering a baby who will grow up to be a healthy adult, but in many cases of such an early birth, the child, if it survives, has lifelong health issues/disabilities.
My heart is breaking for this young mother. Prayers for her recovery. I feel like when we start playing God, we get God's consequences. This is wrong on so many levels.
I am ashamed to say that I used to tune you out when you started talking about surrogacy. Honestly, I thought you were being a little extreme. Then, when I was driving to San Antonio to see my sister for Easter, there was a billboard right on I-35 advertising up to $65,000 to become a surrogate. I almost had to pull over and throw up.
That's one of the things that turned my stomach. This woman became a surrogate for money. I feel bad for her and prayed for her but it's still stomach turning to rent out your womb for money.
This lady is so confused as she talks about how she cares so much about the baby’s wellbeing & that it “matters” while simultaneously using her body as a money making machine for a child to grow up without a mother!!! Profoundly sad & hypocritical .
This woman needs prayer. How could she do this? #1 HUGE MISTAKE carrying a child for sodomites #2 Murder SMH Pray from them all! The sweet baby boy is in heaven.
it is insane that so many people/drs/etc were involved with *not* helping this tiny innocent baby man knowing that they COULD. Screw the lawsuits! Who cares about lawsuits when someone is in front of you dying and you can help. No wonder this place needs to burn. Mankind has become utterly disgusting.
This alone screams for laws regarding IVF and surrogacy. I still do not understand how this baby (who was born alive) was not considered a person. If that hospital is federally funded....it should be held accountable for NOT adhering to laws regarding life and protection of the vulnerable.
@@montanagirl3835one is murder, the other one is potential child abuse… both are terrible, she is not innocent, but hopefully she now sees her huge mistake and repents
@@wendymtzc"Potential" is not equivalent to PREMEDITATED/INTENTIONS OF AND/OR ACTUAL ABUSE. You do not KNOW that child would have been abused by those men. Nor can or should you or ANYONE ELSE STATE that gay individual(s) or same sex couple(s) are INCAPABLE of being good parents and WILL UNDOUBTEDLY ABUSE A CHILD. That is like saying a man is incapable and could/should not be allowed to raise his child if the mother dies/divorce/ if mother isn't able/refuses to raise the baby.. that men cannot be good parents or have no place nor right to be FATHERS, CAREGIVERS to their children or to children who NEED A SAFE,STABLE, CARING, LOVING, NURTURING HOME WHERE THEY WILL BE PROTECTED, THRIVE AND ARE WANTED. Same-sex couples are just as capable of providing a good, loving home and raising a child to be responsible, well-rounded, honest, productive adult as couples who are opposite sex. It is what is in their heart, soul and mind... Not what is between their legs or what they do in the privacy of their bedroom. The argument of what they do in their bedroom is INVALID. I will explain why... Parents who are opposite sex also engage in acts in the confines of their private bedroom...THEY DO NOT HAVE TO ENGAGE IN THOSE ACTS IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN FOR IT TO BE KNOWN. Children are fully aware that mom and dad have sex. They ARE NOT SEXUALIZED BY THAT FACT. THEY ARE ALSO GROSSED OUT BY THE THOUGHT OF THEIR PARENTS DOING THAT... SO THEY CHOOSE NOT TO HYPERFOCUS ON IT... THEY DO THE SAME WHEN IT COMES TO SAME SEX PARENTS. The children being raised by them are no more sexualized than those with a mother and a father. The ONLY time a child becomes "sexualized" is when they are sexually abused by a PEDOPHILE, EXPOSED TO PORNOGRAPHY... NEITHER OF THOSE ARE EXCLUSIVE TO SAME OR OPPOSITE SEX COUPLES. Being homosexual is just that homosexual... Attraction to ONLY ADULT OF THE SAME SEX. A pedo is ONLY ATTRACTED TO CHILDREN. They are not one in the same.
@@kristiejones2054 I’m a a Christian and I believe the Bible and what it teaches about sodomy so we’re not going to agree on this subject… have a good day
People are so arrogant. They are basically using their sexuality to determine whether their children have a right to a father or mother. as the mother of twin girls, the thought of Shane Dawson and Ryland having twins, with no mother figure, makes me feel actually sick. Imagine explaining to your child that they have no mother because of your sexual preference?? Selfish to the core, and absolutely arrogant if they think they can do the job better than nature intended.
I have to wonder why a 51 year old man who lives in his parents' basement wants children in the first place all of a sudden so late in life. Via a method he can barely afford. Children, by the way, that he can apparently barely afford. Considering what the sister said about the way he treats the children in front of her (and probably their parents) he clearly isn't a good father. I wonder, though, if more is going on that he makes sure nobody sees. If nobody has contacted CPS yet, they should. Even without my speculation, just what the sister has seen is enough to warrant a call to CPS. These poor little children.
My mom had stage 4 cancer, was given the option to terminate pregnancy or die, she refused to terminate, after she gave birth they gave her 6 months to live, she is still alive today and so is my sibling.
Cancer is an industry.
Ok. But every single woman must be given the choice. And it is always ok for her to put herself and life first. Not every pregnancy is desired or a blessing
@@a.k.7341 No still not okay.
Praise God for your mothers steadfast love! There are MANY such cases.
@@emmaleebuzzard1023none of your business. If I want to get a million abortions I will do so, I wouldn’t contact you to ask for your permission, Emma.
Those men acted so inhumanely. In no way should they ever be allowed to do this again. No way should they ever become parents.
Atheist evolutionists believe humans are animals. They see nothing wrong with this. Animals kill their young sometimes.
Well they can't be parents. You used to have to be selected by a woman to become a father.
They can't be parents, its two dudes.
True. But in California they definitely will.
this is too funny and these women aren hyper narcissists: "hi. you lied in the screening process and are loaded with cancer genes. Do not have our kid. Please go away"
woman: "WOOOOW IS THIS MISOGNY!? YOU DONT LIKE MY CANCER GENES? THAT'S DISCRIMINATION!"
Jesus christ.
If gender is a social construct, why do they care if it's a boy or girl?
Brilliant response!
Exactly!! They have zero common sense
You don’t know if they believe that gender is a social construct. I’d say MOST gay men/people don’t think gender is a social construct. That is a radical idea not shared by most of the queer community.
They talk that gender is a social construct. I say It's a scientific and physiological reality.
You are so spot on….Since they claim gender is a “social construct”,they could have simply “assigned” the baby whatever gender they preferred.
The jokes write themselves.
When I was 5 months pregnant my OB performed an ultrasound then afterward handed me a paper written on his prescription pad for me to take to a doctor specializing in more sophisticated ultrasounds. He told me to make an appointment without telling me what he’d written. When I got outside I opened the folded paper upon which was written: “Check for cranial-facial abnormalities.” Numb with shock I drove to my husband’s workplace. He read it and calmly assured me that whatever the outcome God was going to be with us.
I went through the next ultrasound fully expecting this doctor to tell me there was absolutely nothing wrong with my baby. Nope. He said we needed to make an appointment with the Genetics Institute in Pasadena for more evaluations.
Amazingly, as I was waiting for this next appointment I was becoming supernaturally calm and falling in love with my baby. I had no sense that if there was something wrong with my child that God was going to make everything “right.” What I so strongly felt was that whatever the state of my child, God was going to help us love and care for him. And every day brought more love and care into my heart for my baby.
We went to the Genetics Institute. They performed yet another ultrasound. Once again, we were told there was something wrong. His limbs were out of proportion to the rest of his body. Although this was unwelcome news, my husband and I were ok. We were committed to our child however he turned out.
The doctors and nurses left the room saying they would return shortly. When they returned they started setting up some equipment. We asked what they were doing. Without asking us first if we agreed to it, they said they were going to perform an amniocentesis. Shocked at this my husband asked if there was any risk to the baby and what was the reason for the procedure? They flatly stated, as if this was the most logical and reasonable thing to do, that with the results of this test we could decide whether to abort our child. I was speechless. My amazing husband said without any wavering, “There is no result that would ever move us to abort our child.”
They looked surprised, but they had another trick up their sleeve. They implored us to go to UCLA for yet another ultrasound. I can only assume that they were trying to scare us and wear us down. But we agreed. They said UCLA was prepared to take us right in with no waiting.
At UCLA we received the same news after another ultrasound. “We won’t know what’s wrong with your baby unless you consent to an amniocentesis. But he surely has some kind of syndrome.”
Once again we declined. I can only think that we continued to agree to all these ultrasounds for the beautiful testimony it would later yield.
We returned home and I was confined to complete bed rest for the remaining 4 months of the pregnancy. Friends helped us while my husband worked, to help us care for our firstborn 3 year old son who had been born 2 months prematurely and I had almost died of preeclampsia.
A week before my son was due to be born, a sonogram revealed that he was under stress and labor needed to be induced. My husband left my side to pick up his mother flying in from out of state. My Obstetrician took that moment , when I was alone, to tell me gravely, that he, “had grave doubts about the genetic viability of my child.” It didn’t even faze me. I felt such love and peace about my child, knowing that healthy or unhealthy, God was going to help us care for him. I made some assuring remark and proceeded to get to work birthing my baby.
As soon as my beautiful baby was born they needed to rush him into the NICU. I reached out to stop them saying, please let me see his face! It was perfect. My doctor was practically doing a dance. My son was perfect. He was just very small. At full term he only weighed 4 pounds. The condition was called Maternal Insufficiency and these days doctors know that mothers who have had a premature birth caused by maternal high blood pressure can have complications with subsequent pregnancies.
What if my husband and I had been scared into aborting our child? I think many couples might have taken that route. The idea seemed to be, we don’t want or need imperfect children in this world.
Well, the world would have been a less populated place if my son hadn’t been born. As a Law Enforcement Officer he has saved many lives. He was awarded a medal for going into a home with an active shooter where a man had shot his wife and she lay on the floor bleeding out. His swift medical actions which he was trained to give saved the woman’s life. Later he was off duty at the Mandalay Bay Casino concert when the killer, Steven Paddock, committed the deadliest mass shooting in US History. He immediately went into professional mode and helped rescue the wounded and evacuate the venue while the shooter continued his rampage. For months after, my son suffered from PTSD.
We cannot play God. He has a calling upon every human whether perfectly or imperfectly formed. Ask Nick Vujicic.
Thank you for sharing and thanks to your son for caring for so many.
Incredible, God had a plan for your son and your family.
Beautiful story! Thank you for sharing about the peace and love of knowing God. Grateful for your son 💙
God bless you and your family. It is truly uplifting to see a husband and wife who believes so strongly in our Lord and faithful that He will provide everything we need. As you know… we are fearfully and wonderfully made. ❤🙏🏻
This is beautiful. Thank you for sharing it.
If you're 'still traumatized' from an alleged sexual assault by a male, and it's so bad that you wouldn't be able to accept a baby boy then you are not ready to have any children at all. That couple should be ashamed of themselves.
The “alleged” part was unnecessary. Obviously, if it didn’t happen, she probably wouldn’t feel that way about a son.
Awful people, AM I right?
Exactly what I thought to myself. That poor little boy will most likely be treated in horrendous ways because his own mother hates men. Pray for God to keep his hand upon that innocent child.
Well said…..I feel like an agency should be able to refuse people for this line reasoning. But agencies just want their check. Anyone with that mindset should not children, I can only imagine the negative indoctrination their child would endure. Wouldn’t be surprised if they groomed their child to hate men or be afraid of boys & men
@@gypsy-nr9zd why tf would you feel that way about your son regardless?
Quite astounding how little these men know about pregnancy and birth. It's almost like it's designed for women.
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Men are men...not mothers...never will be...
U haven't seen ax24weeks fetus
@@jennymurs88 I worked with them in NICU at the hospital I worked in, and they are undeniably human beings worthy of life and care.
That's why GOD made them mennnnnn.
We do not find it acceptable for parents to let their children to starve to death nor leave them in hot cars to die…. but parents can leave their living, breathing babies to die? This is murder, plain and simple. God help us all.
Yep. There's no spin.
@@szechuon6971Always a double standard when it comes to abortion. 😢
Absolutely...So Horrible...
Yeah I was taken aback watching this and thought maybe I misunderstood... let me get this straight, the baby was born fine but the doctors ended the baby's life?? is that not illegal?? Yes God help us please.
We bravely fight for the right to own weapons of war to shoot them down too. Funny how that didn’t earn a mention
Contract aside, how is it legal to let a baby be born alive and just not give them any lifesaving treatment?? How is birth not even the boundary line for murder anymore?
I'm in Germany and abortion is technically always illegal but "not punished" in the first trimester after a compulsory consultation with a social worker, or if the mother's psychological or physical wellbeing is severely threatened or after rape. The psychological indication is used in the majority of cases where baby is predicted to be disabled.
In 2012 a woman was pregnant with twins and one of them was disabled. She did not want to have that twin, but didn't want to endanger her wanted twin. So a gynecologist for "difficult cases" was consulted and planned to "abort" that twin at 34 weeks and then deliver the healthy twin. But the mother started labor before that, so she did a c-section on the mother, pulled out the healthy twin, then killed the disabled baby with a toxic injection and then pulled it out. She documented it as a stillbirth. The present assistant staff were so traumatized by this and could not forget about it that they anonymously tipped off the police years later.
How someone who vowed to help and heal humans can have such a stone cold heart is incredible to me. She and her boss only got a year and a few months probation for manslaughter. The justices said it is not allowed to sort out unwanted children. So even with more restrictive laws than in many parts of the USA, this isn't considered murder...
@@planckismusoh my goodness, that is so sad. Poor baby!
🤯🤯🤯 My husband have 7 children... 5 biological and 2 boys we just (unexpectedly 😳) added to our family. I'm glad that child is with Jesus. 😭 "Let the little children come to me." 😭😭😭
This is so obviously murder, absolutely shocking, just because he was a baby he doesn't have the same human rights like everyone else, they even knew he was a boy, how is that just a fetus and a glob of cells and not a human?
I was shocked to hear too that it's the woman's body and choice was completely ignored here, they always talk about that when it comes to abortion and the father is never allowed to force abortion but here the fathers where allowed to force abortion just because she was a surrogate. Imo surrogacy should be illegal because it's buying the body of a woman (many likely in vulnerable situations to do something like this to their own health) but it makes me absolutely sick that she a surrogate doesn't have the same rights for her own body like other pregnant women, I can't imagine the effects on a surrogats mental health to be forced abortion. If surrogacy is allowed there needs to be better rights for the surrogate mother and baby, at least have the same rights as any other women and the last word about the baby until adoption, like rights to chance her mind, to either keep or chose abortion against the will of the people who buy a baby as it's her body and health, not theirs.
Please make it that these men are permanently blacklisted from surrogacy. There should be a national register.
Please
Black list surrogacy
Make that an international register
Make it illegal to traffic children altogether
It reminds me of the story I just saw where this gay couple left their infant daughter in a car for over 12 hours and remembered she wasn’t in the house at like freaking midnight. She died and they were also in the process of adopting a second kid. They shouldn’t be able to ever again point blank period. They just neglected the first one by “forgetting” her in a car and she died.
Why would you allow yourself into a situation where you knew the parents had the right to demand an abortion? I mean NOBODY would force me into an abortion, even if I signed the docs.
To clarify, they did not have that right. The baby ended up being delivered.
Same! I'd flee the state, change my name... that baby in my body would be MINE!
She did say labor was induced which means the mother didn't allow the pregnancy to continue. She should have done Safe Surrender and trusted God to help her finish the pregnancy. Chemo is nothing but poison.
The body belongs to the woman yet she allows a stranger to allow control over her body.
I watched eggploitation which discussed egg harvesting and it was brutal. Society paints a pretty picture which often lacks what happens behind closed doors
I hope those sorry excuses for "fathers" are not ever allowed to buy any more babies. Filthy. Evil. Selfish.
And I hope she never agrees to this monstrous process again.
She wouldn't be eligible as a candidate due to her history of cancer...if she even survives.
She still thinks its a great idea!
I hope they get charged with infanticide for failing to give their son life saving care. It's no different, in fact worse actually, than a mom who gives birth outside the hospital and fails to call 911 resulting in the baby's death. They were well informed, had every option, and still chose not to save him, or allow others to save him. That's murder.
@@ms.c.2897it won't happen in Calif where they reside.
Nobody should be allowed to purchase another human.
As a mother of a premie.... I can't get my head around this. This entire process needs to be illegal.
Agreed
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@@benmcfarren6337 the same to you as well 💜
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Hard to believe! So heartbreaking 😢.
This is child trafficking, plain and simple. There’s a trade fir goods and service for a price. Life is beautiful and priceless, and not everyone is worthy of it. There’s a reason a single male or same sex couples can’t have children. Doctors and other women shouldn’t be facilitating such abomination. God save these children ❤
Well said! It's so sad..There needs to be a law to make this illegal
Amen Mrs.
I agree, this needs to be made illegal. As it is, having a child is nowhere near being a right, it is a Responsibility.
Amen!
And to deprive a child of a mother then coerce it into perversion like their diabolical donors ( refuse to call them dads) (likely including SA) tells you how depraved America has become
Where's the cries of "my body my choice" when someone is being forced to abort? Apparently it's only "my body, my choice" when it's FOR abortion 😢😢😢
Yup. Majority of women I know who have had an abortion did so because their male partner insisted.
@@michelleobrien6996 or their parents/families ("What will people think?!"). And so many stories start with, "I thought I had no choice..." 😭
@@thekingsdaughter4233so sad,,😢😢
My understanding is that she had to abort because she could no longer delay cancer treatment. The problem begins after the baby is born, and she contractually gave up the rights to her child and what happened to him. All three of these people are messed up.
It wasn't an abortion. It was an induced early delivery necessary for the mother's health.
This is one of the more vile forms of child trafficking. sickening!!
So true :(
💯! Human trafficking in its most overt form. 😢
(Never give your child up for adoption to a gay couple. Don’t agree to be a surrogate for a homosexual couple. There are way too many Christian, heterosexual couples who medically can’t have their own their children who would love to give a baby a home. And children deserve a family as God designed it to be. Why start then out disadvantaged for some adults playing fantasy house. This story is the epitome of selfishness. 😢)
@@chilltartsI 100% agree, same sex couples should NEVER be allowed to have a child by surrogacy, they give up that right when they enter into same sex relationship/marriage (which I don’t agree with either)
The changes it made to everything about “fluid gender” and all the “woke idiots”is crazy. I curse the day it became legal in Australia 😡 I certainly didn’t vote in favour of that becoming legal, it’s just wrong. I know a lot of gays from when I worked at a telecommunications company and honestly the ones I know were AGAINST it, they were quiet happy to continue having their little ceremonies that they used to have before the laws were changed.
the surrogates make 30,000-70,000 for a child, so its a money making machine. I agree this is buy selling and trading human beings legally..this woman acted so disconnected about the baby in her womb, she choose herself over the child in her womb ultimately bc well she approached this situation like you would a job, this is taking womanhood and motherhood for granted, and this is a way to make alot of money for just being pregnant, i see were people who could so easily get on board to make alot of money really quickly and not see were its morally/ethically wrong..
Exactly 💯
the 51 year old single man having all those kids makes me want to cry for those poor babies!!! THAT IS INSANE
Just as horrifying as b u tt fkrs
Yes and you have to wonder about his parents… what’s going on w/ them??
If surrogates have to go through a evaluation and back ground check then why aren't the people hiring them.
@@rebeccaperson8581 the fact that he is deaf may be why he lives at home. a lot times they move away to school fairly young. there is probably more to that story though. the average person can't afford surrogacy on top of buying eggs.
Hearing stories about gay and lesbian couples suing because they didn't get the baby the gender they wanted is suspicious. Why do they want their babies to be a certain sex so badly?
I think we all know the answer to that.
Seriously 🤯
Because they want to be God.
They’re self centered perverts.
Hmmmmm.....it makes you wonder.
Not only is this a disgrace on behalf of those men bit also a disgrace on behalf of the medical and legal system surrounding surrogacy in the US. The fact a baby was allowed to die unnecessarily because of legalities is completely nuts. In the UK, the baby belongs to the woman who births it and she then gives up her rights. This would have saved this baby.
From what I understand she wanted to deliver early so that she could have life saving treatment for herself. She wanted the baby to be given life saving care after birth but at that point the doctors have to listen to the men who paid for the baby. From what I understand she had an induced labor. She certainly didn't have a typical abortion at that stage because usually a late term abortion includes killing the baby via a needle in the babies heart and then a dissection and suction of the baby. Understandably she doesn't want to discuss it in detail but it sounds like she had an induced labor with a live birth but at that stage she lost all rights to the child.
@@dejayne8246 SO WRONG. A baby is a precious human being created in God's image, NOT the property of anyone to do with as they wish. The doctors didn't HAVE TO listen to the men who "paid for" this baby boy. They had the choice to do the RIGHT thing and give this little guy his RIGHT to live. Wrong in EVERY way.
Exactly the baby should always belong to the mother until adoption. They always talk how it's her body and choice so the same human rights should go here too that it's her body and choice and not the people buy her body, those people who buy a body and baby can just keep their months shit as far as I see and be thankful she is giving them such a gift, to have a baby is not a damn human right.
And I'm even more shocked that it wasn't even an abortion and that it was late stage and they just let a baby die, how isn't it murder? Late stage abortion should be illegal too (except to save the life of the mother). I'm so shocked and sad that they would murder a baby, I would have loved to care for the baby. I don't understand how these men could be so cruel, so many people want a baby, why didn't they let someone else have the baby if they dont want a disabled baby? They can easily do this again. I really hope these 2 monsters got hate for murdering a baby and I would wish at least that they're not allowed to use a surrogate again.
I have a guestion so in US if you have a baby and it is born early or has a disability you are allowed to let the baby die or not feed it and starve to death (if they dont die by themselves) without it being considered murder, manslaughter or at least child abuse? And what day or week does a baby get same human rights like everyone else? Because clearly a newborn doesn't have human rights if the men where allowed to let him just die, just unbelievably shocking, so dark and cruel.
@@teijaflink2226 Abortion is never necessary to save the life of the mother. It's always been the case that when a pregnancy is threatening the mom's life, they let the baby mature as long as possible then either induce labor or take it by c-section, then rush to give it everything it needs to survive.
What the Dobbs decision did was give each state the authority to decide what they would do with abortion laws. In CA, it's "legal" to kill your baby up to a MONTH after birth. I agree, extremely sickening, shocking, dark and cruel. 😭😡
No one should be helping two homosexuals to get a baby in the first place.
Totally agree. I can't believe after this she still supports surrogate.
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Seems like make a deal with the devil and expect a good outcome? Gay men abomination unto the Lord so why would murder abortion bother them
That was her big mistake. Instead of enjoying her time with her beautiful family she has been blessed with. May God give us His wisdom.
As a woman who is married to a man & have been battling actual infertility for 6 years, this enrages me. Children & fertility have been made a business thanks to people like these “men”. What is wrong with people?!!!
Exactly, IT is just wrong in Soo many levels 😢❤😢❤😢
I’m so sorry. You are 100% correct.
I could not have children went thru hell trying. All these people throwing away babies is heartbreaking
They aren’t men… they are the serpent seed and people need to wake the f up
Thanks to people like these man AND women
My son was born at 24 weeks and will be 21 years old this fall. He is so very kind and creative. It deeply breaks my heart that at around the same stage of life, this little baby was discarded. Shame on those men. All life has value!
Your lucky. I know many women who have delivered that early and their children didn’t make it. If I’m honest I know more whose didn’t than did. Most don’t, in fact, make it when they arrive so soon.
Could this child have survived? Perhaps, but the chances are higher that the poor babe wouldn’t have. Let’s be realistic. At that stage they are so tiny they fit could fit in the palm of your hand. They seem translucent and look like beautifully, tiny, little pixies or cherubs. Almost like a small fragile doll one might break just by touching it.
Does this make what the couple did justifiable? No. But they probably thought they were being realistic and didn’t want the child to suffer. 🤷🏻♀️
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If they felt incompetent they should have let other people have the child.
@@M.Campbell-Sherwoodso it's better to ☠️ your child than try to save their lives? Should we wipe out all the child cancer wards then and use it for something else? My husband was born at 24 weeks and the doctors had the same vile mentality as you. They made his mother feel so bad and terrified her by saying he was going to be a R word and to not expect him to live longer than a few weeks and if he does he will be extremely small all his life. They were wrong and even if they thought those things they shouldn't say them. Kids deserve a chance at life and you don't get to decide they're not worth some temporary pain
@@M.Campbell-Sherwood I know a quick google search is by no means the answer or be-all truth, but a quick google search gives me: "For babies born at 25 or 26 weeks the chance of survival if they receive intensive treatment is about 80%."
So most likely, they would have survived. Over 30 years ago(!), a 21 week baby survived.
@@M.Campbell-SherwoodMOST 24 week preemies do survive. 73.3% survive according to the National Library of Medicine.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9903864/#:~:text=Survival%20for%20infants%20born%20at,infants%20at%20periviable%20gestational%20age.
Please pray for me. I am gay but I am against same sex parents. A child needs both a mother and a father.
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@@megalopolis2015Suffering? I'm bisexual but I'm not suffering...way off base. And I'm a Christian in a heterosexual marriage.
@@nette9836 I used to identify that way, too. I still find ladies very pretty, but I don't lust after them anymore. Learning more about God and putting Him before myself made all the difference.
Praying for you!
I hope women rethink surrogacy. So many risks and unknowns. The study of epigenetics is new and these babies are connected to the woman that give birth to them regardless of the egg's origin. Your blood, your nutrients, the sound of your heartbeat...the baby is taken away from what they know as their mother.
Children need their moms. Dads are replaceable
💯 @ahandfuloffun i really do. Stories like this break my heart. The more I hear of them, the more I’m perturbed by them.
Each pregnancy rises the risk of breast cancer. There are scientific papers about that fact.
@@2okaycolano, they are not. Children need both
I was all for surrogacy until I myself became a mother.. women are powerful creatures who can absolutely turn off their emotions and deny their own needs for the sake of survival. Money is security especially for your “own” children.. but no one can convince me this whole process isn’t incredibly painful for mom and baby.
Im a mom and i could never carry a child and give my baby away . I feel like i would die inside
Yes absolutely. And just like in infant adoption, young moms are often being convinced by everyone that they are doing the best, most selfless thing for the child and adoptive parents. What babies really need is the mom that carried them. Only in certain limited circumstances should they be separated. Doing this voluntarily for profit as an industry (both surrogacy and adoption) is human trafficking.
I'm sure I am going to offend a number of people, but I am trying to speak the truth in love. Surrogacy is a bad practice all the way around. All you have to do is look at Sarah and Hagar to see why surrogacy is bad. This woman invited a whole bunch of demonic stuff against herself and her family by participating. I'm sad the baby died. I am sad she was put into this nightmare, but she largely put herself into this nightmare and her family.
Two men or two women not being able to have children is not infertility problems. It is a sin problem. God never intended two men or two women to marry, procreate, or cohabitate in a sexual relationship.
We do not get to decide our own sexual mores. God gets to determine that for humanity. We do not get to decide if our wombs are closed or not. That is God's ultimate decision. And I speak as a single, childless 51 year old woman so I know what I am talking about about the pain of not having children.
My first child was born at 24 weeks and died due to medical malpractice. His arm was ripped almost completely off during delivery. It was the most painful and traumatic experience I’ve ever been through. I still think about it daily. I hemorrhaged as well. But I still held my baby for 10 hours until the hospital absolutely had to take him. I had a funeral home already lined up to handle everything from there. I just don’t understand how ppl can be so cold to innocent babies. So so sad.
I'm so sorry. There should be legal recourse for women who have lost a child due to medical malpractice. 24 weeks...there's no reason they couldn't have done more to save them. I truly understand your sorrow.
I'm sorry. I had 24 weeker and they did all they could for him. It's a 50/50 chance your baby lives. So you'll never get a court to give you a judgement for a poor 24 week birth if they only gave a 50/50 viable chance yo live. I'm sorry
I’m so sorry 🕊️
Because they are souless
I am sorry for your deep lost, I hope time give you some comfort in your heart
As the mother of a thriving 16 month old 33 week preemie, my heart is so grieved by the selfishness of these 2 men.
I pray they repent and ask forgiveness for so calously discarding this baby and abusing the surrogate in her own time of need.
Yeshua love you
I have 3 severely preemie babies in my family. One is in her early 20's, pursuing a master's degree, one will start her senior year in August, and one, well... she is a 3 year old bombshell. I love each one of them, even if they are only my cousins. I will fight for the preemies.
thanks Yeshua way
I'm currently holding my barely 35-week preemie who is now 3 months old, and miraculously beyond thriving and needed zero interventions, despite being almost 6 weeks early! He is now way above the growth curve for his age and developmentally above the charts! I couldn't agree more! ❤
how horrifically demented of those men to want to terminate the child and yet want the remains -- this whole thing is abominable--
Because these men wanted total control over the situation and also to punish the mother. They chose to do the exact opposite of what she asked to show that theirs will be the final word. I imagine the baby's remains will be displayed and used as props when they tell the dramatic story of how they lost a son.
Who would want to give a baby to a couple of perverted men in the first place?
@@БорянаЦенева😢yes, I hope they are haunted by the whole ordeal everytime the word baby is said 😢 just sick demented men,no soul.
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An abomination and highly suspicious..
You could not make me abort a baby, no matter who 'owned' it. Especially not at 24 weeks. Precious child.
She didn't abort a baby.
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I saw a documentary a while ago about a gay couple in the uk using ivf. They had a pre teen daughter who was asking about her mum and whether she could ever meet her, it was heartbreaking. She was overweight and they kept emphasising how they were selecting their new egg donor from a catalogue of models in the us, that they had essentially upgraded and were paying a huge fee for the eggs and showing photos of her from the catalogue to the existing children talking about how thin and attractive she was, the implication being that their daughter didn’t meet their expectations. Like they had wanted an attractive doll to dress up. It made me feel physically sick to see the girl reacting to the emotionally abusive and very confusing situation. Or the thought of her needing to go to them when she gets her first period & their potential reaction. Kids should come first in this always & they need a father and mother whether they remain in the child’s life or not at least they have an opportunity to have a relationship with them.
Due to strict laws in the UK it’s actually not easy importing eggs
Disgusting
Coward doctors refusing to deliver a baby because of a threat of lawsuit. Insane.
More like the coward doctors who refused to save him
They HAVE to abide by the laws
I'm sorry, but I would have gone on the run, had the baby in secret at a catholic hospital who would have tried to save the baby (and I know several 25 week babies that are doing fine), gave it up for adoption, and spent the rest of my life in lawsuits if that's what it took to save the baby. California is a horrible state, and I would have literally left the state and found one.
I have read so many stories of couples that just want the "perfect" baby and are willing to sacrifice others to get it. They are seen as commodities, not children. AND I completely disagree about helping a gay couple rob a child of the other sex parent. I have experienced this in my own family, and my grand nephew is a mess from not having a father. He feels it. Daily. And expresses it, no matter how many people are loving him, even his "step" dad.
My last question is: did she get the cv sharp thing? Because turbo cancers are on the rise, and being linked as well. It may not be surrogacy itself, but the pre-treatments or mid-treatments she agreed to.
Well that phrase "perfect baby". All babies are perfect to their parents. So many mentally healthy parents would be overjoyous just for having a baby, even if the baby is autistic. I agree. If I was foolish enough to agree to surrogacy, and the "parents" wanted me to abort him because of who he is, I would go on the run and into hiding. Legally change my name and fake my death I have to. These people literally believe that life is actually the Sims 4, and they think they can customize and design their babies, and then delete them if they don't like them. It's sick and demonic.
Exactly we need to protect the baby. She literally stated they couldn't force her abort the baby but then she says she went to another that still let the baby die? Sickening.
I would have also. This is heartbreaking
Yes on the cv. Very scarey.
I'm a Christian conservative in Canada. I can't have kids naturally due to surgery & my husband & I are trying to adopt. I generally am against excessive government over-regulation & over-reach into every area of life...but surrogacy is one area I'm grateful our government has put limitations on. I had no idea this industry was so exploitative & straight up sick. Children are not a commodity. They are not a car you pick out, or a pair of shoes. I'm so saddened by not just this story, but the stories in Allie's introduction. Horrific.
I pray your dream comes true ❤
Dear Kelly. God bless you and your husband for trying to adopt. There is a higher wisdom to learn for you, and all non-fertil individuals that God only knows. You are fulfiling your mission on earth, in this lifetime, just accepting your situation and helping adandoned childrens to became happy, decent human beings.
The bad thing is even the adoption industry is corrupt and driven by money, not the needs of the mother and child. Young mothers are coerced into giving baby away, and in some states signing rights away before she understands what it will feel like to be a mother.
I generally want government out of our personal lives. Except to protect women from abuse and exploitation, children too
@@janae6524 I'm certain this is true, I'm unsure how it goes in the U.S. but in Canada adoption is very regulated, & in my province even more so (Saskatchewan). I also know there are some major issues with adoption when looking for an infant straight from an expecting mother. If we adopt it will be after doing thorough research on any agency we use, going through countries who respect the Hague Convention, & also through a great deal of prayer. It has to be God's plan, not ours! We don't plan to adopt a baby, rather we want to take in older siblings who have lost a parent, or who need help & love. I don't want anybody to suffer in our efforts to have a family - I want the opposite. So if it can't be done ethically it won't be done at all, or we will simply foster instead.
I am struggling to feel compassion for this woman. The question that should have been asked is if she would have been a surrogate with no financial gain. Obviously she did it for the money. What a sad life! To have to rent your body for 9 months. She seems so naive to expect these people to care about her. Of course it was a financial transaction for them. Oh, and she’s still pro surrogacy 🤦♀️
The reason surrogacy is allowed to go unchecked in this country is because it’s the rich and more financially secure people who mostly benefit from this. Who will defend the lower income women trying to make a living? Women need to stand up to this, know their worth, and refuse to participate in this exploitative industry.
My sister had housing and drug money to carry her baby. They knew she had needles in her arm and did nothing. She birthed, they gave her more money, and they put her back on the street to do it again. I was many states away and my niece was sold for drugs before I even knew she was pregnant. Ironically her adopted family lives in my state. I got to meet my Daisy, but it absolutely killed me that I never had the chance to help her. My sister has been addicted to hardcore drugs, a sex worker, and living in the streets, in and out of jail, for the last 10 years. And there are systems that encourage her to make and sell drug babies. Absolutely heart breaking
The “fathers“ made disgusting choices--especially for not wanting their baby but did want his cremated remains. Praying for this lady.
They didn't even care about the baby. They cared about their money and what they had "ordered." If they truly cared about the baby they would have cared about this woman's health because she is carrying the baby.
RIGHT! This is making my stomach hurt
If they cared about their children, they would find them mothers and give them the life children deserve.
Right, She messed up their order so they just want to cancel it. They prefer to start over with a different seller and end this whole nightmare. They probably have extra embryos anyway that they planned on discarding. If they never got the baby from her, they probably have to pay less for the surrogate, So why pay full price for potentially damage goods. They were making a financial decision by cutting their losses.
Jesus Christ died for our Sins According to the scriptures and that he was Buried and that he rose again the third day praying for everyone everyday God bless you all 🙏🙏🙏🙏
They probably wanted his remains because they were worried that the surrogate and the doctors would conspire to keep this precious child alive, against their will. The remains were proof. Sickening.
I didn’t think of that until you said it but you are exactly correct!!
This is utterly heartbreaking. I cannot understand how it is legal to refuse that little baby care postpartum and this woman is so clearly traumatized by this experience. I hope you continue to be strong and vocal about these atrocities.
What a horrific story. These men are guilty of murder.
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😢 yes, Jesus 🙏🏽. I pray for the babies that go through this 😢Soo sad.
so are all the other participants.
Exactly, Why is this not infanticide?? If a baby is born in a bathroom and the mom doesn't call 911 and let's it die she is absolutely charged with murder.
Note that the mother pointedly refuses to answer Allie's question as to whether this was a live birth, and never refers to the child as being alive at birth. This was apparently a stillbirth and no treatment was withheld. While this incident raises interesting hypothetical questions, it's being exploited to make a point regarding something that didn't occur.
That a child is born alive anywhere, anytime or under any circumstance is basically put to death is simply murder.
God have mercy on all involved.
I agree!! This was murder.
Clearly a law chance is needed if this is not considered murder. If a parent didn't feel an older child that surely would be murder right so why is this not?
I hope he doesn't have mercy. I hope they rot in hell. They are heartless animals.
And this lady is complicit. I will pray that she has a repentant heart and turns to the mercy of our Lord Jesus. It is the only way she will be able to heal from the inevitable guilt she will bear for being complicit in this gravely immoral act. At this point she doesn’t seem repentant as she still doesn’t see the evil of surrogacy.
Yes she is and I question she's learned anything from this!
AMEN. I agree. I don't believe she understands yet what she has done. I am sure it's all about the money.
How is surrogacy evil?
It can be misused but evil?
She agreed to have a baby for 2 men who are perverted and deep in sin. Shame on her!
Agreed. No one should be playing God.
Why is this lady making excuses for these people. They aren’t good people, the personas they presented to her at first were the lie. They showed their true colors in the end.
Even though you were seeking emotional fulfillment, this was nothing more than a business deal for the men. They were paying you big bucks to be a “rented uterus”. Therein lies the problem. Children are NOT a business deal. They’re precious, innocent babies., but in this horrific case this baby was dispensable. I pray that you will be able to come to a place of peace & healing over what happened.
No one has a "right" to have a child. This whole story made me sick to my stomach
Exactly sickening 🤢. I mean it's still raw for her for what happened she's so shut down. But the part of the story here that is rough is she willingly goes out of her way to grow babies for same sex couples because she thinks she's morally doing the "right" thing and then look what her own ideology did to her.
I agree! It's horrible 😢
@@Drowning_Girlyes, 🙌🏽 GOD'will not be mocked ❤
The way she talks about having a baby as a task, makes me not feel bad for her. There should be a rule that if the “parents” don’t want the baby, it should belong to the surrogate. I would prefer this to be illegal, period, it’s so heartless and devalues human life.
The rule should be that there is no such thing as a "surrogate." This woman took on the role of the mother for another woman's embryo/baby.
I hope this story changes many hearts and minds on the practice of commercial surrogacy. Commercial surrogacy should be outlawed.
No, it should not.
Better regulated but not outlawed.
I don’t really know when surrogacy is justifiable and could be legal
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728Yeah...no. Absolutely not. Outlawed and and enforced cessation of the people who committed and enforced the murder of the innocent.
...Huh? What are you babbling, @@vibeauxssxuaebiv3489 ?
Just listened to a speech from a woman born of surrogacy and how her life was filled with fears of abandonment and the whole process is from selfishness of the intended parents. Very insightful I imagine this is common. Playing God.
Remember the days when all parents were concerned about was having a healthy baby?
The rest was sposed to be a surprise and a gift.
I believe abortion, IVF, and surrogacy should be abolished. Children are not objects to be purchased or discarded based on the emotions of adults. Being a parent is a responsibility and God will hold us accountable for how we treat and care for children, the most vulnerable and innocent members of the human race. Repent and believe on Jesus Christ for salvation from sin.
They wanted this precious babies remains so they can showcase him and be victims. They can claim they wanted him but the mom had cancer and couldn't carry him full term, so now this is all we have of our son.
What utterly disgusting demons.
Oh gosh . You are probably right . What a nightmare. I sure hope they do not end up with a child.
My thoughts exactly.
They might have wanted to sell his body parts.
I wonder if they're still calling him "the fetus"...
This poor lady has obviously bought into the liberal ideology to even get into this situation with these men. She made excuses for these evil men and in denial of who these gay men really are. Hoping and praying she survives this cancer. This story is absolutely horrible. Know one gave this child saving measures after his birth. Unbelievable! So sad for her. Allie did a good job of gently summarizing what they did to her and how they treated her like a commodity and trash.
Yes, I also found the justification for entering into the contract a bit confusing. However, we are all children of the zeitgeist / our time and it causes us to make bad decisions and from the consequences get wise the hard way.
I do hope being confronted with this cruelty will make her an advocate of the value of human life and womanhood
The liberal ideology is about personal freedom. And keeping government out of ones personal live except to protect women (and children) against abuse and exploitation
These men should not be fathers since they do not understand that life is not perfect. We can only hope they do not try again. Can you imagine the cold hearted fathers they will be....
I hope they see this comment.
It’s crazy how that teenager Lexi is getting charged with murder for killing her baby in the hospital, yet the hospitals do the same thing and get a pay day.
I mean….. she should be and so should the hospital staff. Lexi was messed tf up for what she did and so is the staff of this hospital.
Not crazy. The only crazy part is that the hospital isn’t ALSO being charged with murder
No lie, I would literally disappear and flee with my new baby.
Except she had cancer & needed treatment
The fact a man wants to kill one of his twins shows that he doesn’t truly want to be a father. No man wanting to be a father would do that.
Exactly. Reminds me of the biblical story where two women were arguing over a baby; one was okay with killing the child while the actual mother said, no, don't kill it.
Exactly!
Struggling to have compassion for this woman. My deep sadness is for this baby and that he was murdered.
Exactly how I felt sadly 😬 I was very bothered that she was so “hurt” by these men’s actions…she is a womb for rent PERIOD…. It was like she was trying to form a bond with these men…. Also have a HUGE issue with her being so happy about providing a gay couple with a baby…. Babies deserve and MOTHER and a FATHER! Sad story all around
@@kimtate2285my thoughts as well. Prayers that God would change her heart.
Murdered, yes, no other way to label it
I'm confused how she couldn't take this to court and do something?
Same, trying to bite my tongue
These men don’t deserve to be parents. Being a parent means sacrificing your own selfishness to meet the needs of your child. How would they have responded if the child was diagnosed with a learning disability? Deaf or hard of hearing? Autism? Grown up to struggle with addiction? The list is endless! It’s all part of being a parent. Parenthood is learning to accept the unexpected. These men should be ashamed of them selfish behavior. God bless this momma, her family, and the sweet little boy she gave birth to. This is truly tragic and awful.
True enough - but those two dudes are members of a community who are far more concerned about their "rights" than anything - I should say anyone - else. Sacrifice plays no part in what they do.
As a postpartum doula, I've taken care of many babies conceived through various forms of reproductive technology, but mostly IVF and embryo adoptions. And while all of these kids have been a blessing to their families, this exposure to all the conditions changed my mind about the industry. I became very concerned about what I was seeing even in these situations where there were two parent that were middle to upper class and fully functional families that had the interest and resources to hire postpartum support. The complication of having multiples, the health issues of the babies and the mental and physical health of the parents, the feeding challenges, the abusive conditions for egg donors and surrogates, the rapid cancers after hormones usage to harvest eggs and foster pregnancy, the financial and emotional drain on couples going through round after round, and all the wanton death of embryos and fetuses, etc, etc. Even in these "best of all cases" situations that I see and care for first hand, the negatives rare really disturbing and often times unethical.
I don't understand how a hospital can legally not provide life-saving treatment for a born baby just because the parents say so? Isn't that totally unethical?
Tragic.
It strikes me that even with the cancer and the difficult delivery and the cancer treatment , the worst blow must have been the cruel indifference of the two monsters who she had believed were decent human beings .
God help any child who ends up with those heartless monsters.
I pray they get their babies taken like they discarded that baby boy's life. 😮😢
This is why two men in a sexual relationship are not supposed to have babies. Reminds me of the case king Solomon moderated over in 1kings 3:16. One was adamant about killing the baby as long as the other woman didn’t get to keep the baby. She didn’t care that it was a human life. It is obvious that these men did not care whatsoever about the surrogate mother or “their” child.
I dream of a day when surrogacy/ adoption wouldn’t be available to gay couples. Children should be the results of a loving relationship cultivated in marriage. Just the way God designed it to be.
This situation is so evil. That baby was wanted by many people. He should not have died. There needs to be legal reform for surrogacy. What a nightmare!
When I hear "Surrogacy industry" I'd like to puke.
This whole story angers me. "A fetus" no... it's a baby.
I think it's sad she thought it was almost noble to provide two gay men with a baby. If I insisted on a straight couple I'd have been accused of homophobia.
I was thinking this too last year when I wanted to give my baby up for adoption due to abusive relationship. I’m so glad I didn’t. I later saw the rate of p*doph*lic abuse that happens with gay couples. There’s a really sad court case of two gay men adopting boys and abusing them so badly. It gives off red flags here and in the case she mentioned that the gay couple sued because they wanted a son
@@Mom_of_the_Chickiesunfortunately it happens with normal couples too but either way a healthy loving mother and father is the dynamic God created.
Specially sad as these evil men clearly just saw her as body and baby a doll they are buying and not a human. These monsters should not be allowed to have a baby, they treated the baby like they are buying a luxury bag.
She had noble intentions
No noble intentions,it is not what GOD' designed,they will all pay for the damage they are causing 😢
This breaks my heart! I had a grandson born on January 25th (due to my daughter having fast onset preeclampsia) at 1 day short of 27 weeks gestation, spent 3 months in the nicu. He’s 5 1/2 months old now, and absolutely gorgeous! Coos and smiles, and now starting to laugh out loud! He melts my heart each time I look at his sweet face! Hard to imagine that even at my grandson’s gestational age, babies can be aborted or not given medical attention 😢.
My 27 weeker nephew is going to be two in September. From being so tiny placed in a bag like a little chicken to keep him warm , now he’s a big boisterous boy
Its crazy that a baby can be denied care. If someone wants the baby, let them have it! No person should be alowed to just discard a baby like that. This womans expirence must have been so hard, so heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing your story. Prayers for your cancer journey. 🙏
Whatever happened to "my body, my choice"??? Shame on those men! 😡😠😭😭😱😱
I’m not surprised two men with obvious no morality would do such a horrific thing. The whole rent a womb thing is disgusting and should not be legal. My daughter is 24 weeks pregnant and I feel my granddaughter move in her belly and I’m in love with her. I pray those evil men never have a child. They chose a dead child over giving their child a chance. And why could she not say what happened with the baby??? Prob because the hospital committed infanticide and let the baby die.
This was very difficult to listen to. I am praying for Britney’s health. It’s hard to know the coldness of hearts that a precious life is stomped out! He is with Jesus now!
This was murder! People need to be held accountable and tried by a court of law. Every one stood by while this baby struggled to survive when all the tools to help him survive were available! Shame upon them , may God show mercy to these blinded men and women before it’s too late!
I have always been strongly against surrogacy. It is presented as a loving thing to do but I believe the bonding between the unborn child and the mother is incredibly important. I'm not aware if there are studies about the well-being of children born then given up by the the one that birthed them, but I would think there are issues the child would face of rejection. We think we are doing the right thing but if its not part of Gods natural order, it will always fail. This video is just one example.
they have known for over a century that the childs primary bond is with the mother and that when that bond is interrupted it leads to mental health issues or behavioural problems down the track.. it is why in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that the rights of the mother /child bond should be protected. As you say - they are comforted by her heart beat. Haivng said that it has now been decades of interrupting mother hood, (Intergenerational trauma and family separation and dysfunction with the breakdown of the family unit) many mothers no longer know how to be good mothers.. and we as a society should be supporting mothers to raise psychologically stable children in the absence of good male /father role models. Boys need to be supported to become good fathers but government is fixated on having men and women generate income while they take responsibility fo the children through the education and health system, and failing miserably and then blaming the parents while stopping parents from being good parents. When you scan your eyes on the increase in mental illness, violence, and substance abuse you can see the outcome of interrupting the bond .
@thevocalcrone spot on!
Mental illness is completely due to the breakdown of the nuclear family and the aid of big pharma. The other thing that is well known and completely ignored is the young confused children who are told to take puberty blockers when 75%+ will grow out of that confusion if left alone. The only reason they are going through that confused phase is because of what you've mentioned.... break down of family and the government stepping in with the perversion being pushed. The world had gone mad!
There is a talk by Julie Bindel on TH-cam about womens rights and surrogacy that everyone should watch, she goes into horrifying details about the trauma of both mother and child.
The books “the primal wound” and “coming home to self” by Nancy Newton verrier talk about this in regards to adoption, and the lifelong trauma ramifications kids and families end up with
Primal wound. Look it up for sure.
No, having a baby cannot be a "job". It's simply wrong to sell the use of a female body and to sign a contract over a baby.
A couple of years ago there was a case here in Italy in which a couple bought a surrogate child and left the girl with a babysitter in Ucraine (surrogacy isn't legal in Italy) telling her they would soon come back to fetch her, but just abbandoned the child with that woman. Luckily the babysitter was more conscientious and loving than the "parents". She called the Italian embassy and the girl was then adopted by another family in Italy. That child could just have disappeared.
All life matter. Dear lord please protect our unborn children ❤
As women we fully understand how precious a life is because we are the ones carrying them. Men cannot understand and I think that’s why it was so easy and selfish on their part to proceed with the abortion.
Most women are not being “forced” to abort so…
@@wendymtzc doesn’t take away the fact that the woman are making the physical sacrifices
Allie, you did a great job interviewing someone you fundamentally disagree with. You showed compassion and listened. Yet you were still truthful where you stood
Agreed
Yes😞, 💯
What is hard for me with this story beyond the obvious murder of an innocent baby... Why did this mom agree to go to the other hospital. She said legally they had no rights to force her to do anything while she was carrying the baby. Why didn't she just say no, proceed with her cancer treatments and wait until later for an induction...
She had to have a different chemo that would have killed the baby because it spread to the liver. My sil had ovarian cancer and did treatment while pregnant. It depends on the stage and how aggressive the cancer is.
What sort of woman carries and gives birth to a baby to hand over to two gay men? It's gross! But it pays quite well $$$, which is how all these gay male couples end up raising children.
I hope Brittney's cancer treatments are successful for the sake of her other kids. For someone so young to have such an aggressive cancer, the hormone treatments and pregnancy MUST have played a role.
She doesn't want to talk about how long he lived. guilt. She helped kill a child. I know women who had cancer who refused treatment untilbthe child was born. Its very telling how often she referred to him as an "it". Other people wanted to adopt it. She had no care at all for that child. It was all about the money for her. She even refuse to hold him as he was left to die. I believe in God. Her job? To give a child to people who did not deserve a child? Sick men, sick woman. They all will stand before God and be judged. Doctors too.
They probably wanted the baby cremated to assure he was dead- so cruel 💔
That was my thought too, they wanted proof. It had nothing to do with them caring about the baby.
As someone who was unable to have my own child(ren), I find this absolutely HORRIFIC. I can't help but be absolutely disgusted by these stories, as well as stories of C.A.
Where is the justice? How is this right? Omg, I'm just speechless and angry.
The lesson learned is sin takes one further than they wanted to go. Why would she enable homosexuals to be fathers? It’s all a moral morass. In God’s tender mercies He took the baby’s life to eternal life and avoided a lot of legal battling that would have occurred if the precious soul had survived.
Back in the 80's and 90's I was a labor and delivery nurse. I attended a Perinatal conference in Dearborn, MI and one of the speakers was the lawyer for Mary Beth Whitehead, one of the first surrogate mothers in the US. She decided several days after delivering Baby M that she didn't want to give her up (the baby was conceived using her egg and the adoptive fathers sperm) and that started a legal battle which she lost. At the time it was big news and I realized we were heading the wrong direction in legalizing surrogacy. Too many tangled webs. Same thing with "sexed" embryo's. We are knocking on the door of Communist China and India in their preference for male children, aborting and terminating the pregnancy if it's a female. So sad what our society is becoming.
I battled infertility because of infertility. My daughter (born full term) had major, major medical problems. The Dr's said she was brain dead. My husband (now ex) signed the papers for comfort cares, she would die by morning according to Dr's. She's now 26 y o and graduated college in june with a health services degree.
No, i didn't take fertility treatment, 13 uears between my 2 kids. I believe, i was supposed to be her Mom.
I don’t understand how it’s okay to force a woman to terminate a pregnancy.
They couldn't. Baby was refused care at the behest of the gay men once the baby was born. 😥
I think she is overwhelmed with guilt and so doesn't want to acknowledge the truth. Very sad situation.
I guess "my body, my choice" doesn't apply in this case - when it results in the saving of a life... 🙄
Born alive and then not given live saving care because after the baby was born, the dads had 5hr right to it and that was their decision. Before birth-- her choices (she decided to deliver not terminate), after birth--the dads choices and they chose termination. Sooo sick!!
She obviously was not forced to terminate her pregnancy.
How can they say terminate when the baby is VIABLE at 25 weeks. I am losing my mind over this story, these men were given SO much power of this woman and her womb, I mean wowwwww
She signed up for it, and I'm sure was very well paid.
In the United States (in many states) abortion is legal up and until labor…..well into the 9th month. It’s disgusting and horrific yes but sadly our country is as bad as or worse than Sodom and Gomorrah!
At 25 weeks there's a chance of delivering a baby who will grow up to be a healthy adult, but in many cases of such an early birth, the child, if it survives, has lifelong health issues/disabilities.
My heart is breaking for this young mother. Prayers for her recovery. I feel like when we start playing God, we get God's consequences. This is wrong on so many levels.
Where was this baby’s rights! If I refused my daughter care she needed life saving then I would be charged with neglect!
Her first problem is believing gay couples deserve children. No judgements just biblical facts
I am ashamed to say that I used to tune you out when you started talking about surrogacy. Honestly, I thought you were being a little extreme. Then, when I was driving to San Antonio to see my sister for Easter, there was a billboard right on I-35 advertising up to $65,000 to become a surrogate. I almost had to pull over and throw up.
That's one of the things that turned my stomach. This woman became a surrogate for money. I feel bad for her and prayed for her but it's still stomach turning to rent out your womb for money.
This lady is so confused as she talks about how she cares so much about the baby’s wellbeing & that it “matters” while simultaneously using her body as a money making machine for a child to grow up without a mother!!! Profoundly sad & hypocritical .
Out of touch
The story was so wild. Poor baby boy.
This is so sad - we've GOT to institute laws to protect these children and the women. This is just so wrong.
This woman needs prayer. How could she do this? #1 HUGE MISTAKE carrying a child for sodomites #2 Murder
SMH
Pray from them all! The sweet baby boy is in heaven.
I don’t pray for sodomites, I believe they are beyond hope of salvation based on Romans 1
Her God-given womb is not a room or a house, she has no right to do that!
it is insane that so many people/drs/etc were involved with *not* helping this tiny innocent baby man knowing that they COULD. Screw the lawsuits! Who cares about lawsuits when someone is in front of you dying and you can help. No wonder this place needs to burn. Mankind has become utterly disgusting.
Right?! I could not allow a baby to die when they could've been saved! Absolutely unfathomable!
She ought to sue the Dr's and staff. There oath is "Do no harm".
This alone screams for laws regarding IVF and surrogacy. I still do not understand how this baby (who was born alive) was not considered a person. If that hospital is federally funded....it should be held accountable for NOT adhering to laws regarding life and protection of the vulnerable.
Should have never supported a guy marriage by trying to give them a child though. Just as sickening.
I mean no, that's not as sickening as actual murder.
exactly. they know for a fact that a baby will grow up without a father or mother present and they do it anyway. it is such a cruel act.
@@montanagirl3835one is murder, the other one is potential child abuse… both are terrible, she is not innocent, but hopefully she now sees her huge mistake and repents
@@wendymtzc"Potential" is not equivalent to PREMEDITATED/INTENTIONS OF AND/OR ACTUAL ABUSE. You do not KNOW that child would have been abused by those men. Nor can or should you or ANYONE ELSE STATE that gay individual(s) or same sex couple(s) are INCAPABLE of being good parents and WILL UNDOUBTEDLY ABUSE A CHILD. That is like saying a man is incapable and could/should not be allowed to raise his child if the mother dies/divorce/ if mother isn't able/refuses to raise the baby.. that men cannot be good parents or have no place nor right to be FATHERS, CAREGIVERS to their children or to children who NEED A SAFE,STABLE, CARING, LOVING, NURTURING HOME WHERE THEY WILL BE PROTECTED, THRIVE AND ARE WANTED.
Same-sex couples are just as capable of providing a good, loving home and raising a child to be responsible, well-rounded, honest, productive adult as couples who are opposite sex. It is what is in their heart, soul and mind... Not what is between their legs or what they do in the privacy of their bedroom. The argument of what they do in their bedroom is INVALID. I will explain why... Parents who are opposite sex also engage in acts in the confines of their private bedroom...THEY DO NOT HAVE TO ENGAGE IN THOSE ACTS IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN FOR IT TO BE KNOWN. Children are fully aware that mom and dad have sex. They ARE NOT SEXUALIZED BY THAT FACT. THEY ARE ALSO GROSSED OUT BY THE THOUGHT OF THEIR PARENTS DOING THAT... SO THEY CHOOSE NOT TO HYPERFOCUS ON IT... THEY DO THE SAME WHEN IT COMES TO SAME SEX PARENTS. The children being raised by them are no more sexualized than those with a mother and a father. The ONLY time a child becomes "sexualized" is when they are sexually abused by a PEDOPHILE, EXPOSED TO PORNOGRAPHY... NEITHER OF THOSE ARE EXCLUSIVE TO SAME OR OPPOSITE SEX COUPLES. Being homosexual is just that homosexual... Attraction to ONLY ADULT OF THE SAME SEX. A pedo is ONLY ATTRACTED TO CHILDREN. They are not one in the same.
@@kristiejones2054 I’m a a Christian and I believe the Bible and what it teaches about sodomy so we’re not going to agree on this subject… have a good day
People are so arrogant. They are basically using their sexuality to determine whether their children have a right to a father or mother. as the mother of twin girls, the thought of Shane Dawson and Ryland having twins, with no mother figure, makes me feel actually sick. Imagine explaining to your child that they have no mother because of your sexual preference?? Selfish to the core, and absolutely arrogant if they think they can do the job better than nature intended.
I have to wonder why a 51 year old man who lives in his parents' basement wants children in the first place all of a sudden so late in life. Via a method he can barely afford. Children, by the way, that he can apparently barely afford. Considering what the sister said about the way he treats the children in front of her (and probably their parents) he clearly isn't a good father. I wonder, though, if more is going on that he makes sure nobody sees. If nobody has contacted CPS yet, they should. Even without my speculation, just what the sister has seen is enough to warrant a call to CPS. These poor little children.