Real DIR diving in hogarthian configuration, I wish I had the inner calm, courage, and training to be doing half of what you did in this dive. wow impressive!! Loved the noise and the footage I would add explanatory subtitles for those who don't know about cave diving. Thanks for sharing and Safe diving 👉🏻
@@SSJGengar i did. I have about 300 dive in here and i was a part of the mapping here. This dive i filmed with my gopro Herob4 black in 2016 and the accident happend in 2014 so please do not assume what you did
The day of the accident the divers had to use a chainsaw to cut through the ice to get into the cave... there was no ice in this video so can't be the tragic dive.
The dark rock makes such a difference in viz, despite the clear water, compared to the mostly white caves I've dived in Mexico. Very interesting to see.
I have much respect for the divers who’s job is it to run a line all the way through that entire cave. I would like to know how is the line secured throughout the cave.
It was great to see how well you all communicated and seemed to be trained and skilled. I dunno what enjoyment you get out of this, though. At a few spots you pointed the light away and it was evident how pitch black the scene is. That by itself is enough to make me tap out. But your lights. They lit up so little. It wasn’t like you could see much. It didn’t light up the cave so you could enjoy the view. It was only enough to see your line and to move forward. If you can’t see anything then why do it? That is my question in this. I’m not trying to diminish the wonderful video you made. It truly was great. I have mad respect for you and what you do.
There's not always some shiny reward, view or what not for doing something, the reward is often time the achievement itself. plus its pretty cool to be in a place humanity has never/rarely been or observed
Wow, i didnt realise it got warm enough for all of the snow and ice to melt... I assumed it was just year-round snow. Thanks for sharing, would love to do this dive one day
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 well obviously if you look at your radio in car for 1 sec. you can have a fatal car crash. What's your point, these guys are trained and it's their own responsibility.
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 well no there is not, but I was pointing out that they are well aware of the risk they take and that there is a risk in anything you do. + They don't endanger others like some idiots do. Let them do what they enjoy you don't need to understand that. I don't get your horse argument, because that's dangerous too. :D
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 I said just let them be basically, you called them crazy bastards on their own video. I mean com on. Its not like you know anything about it, thats it. But whatever, have a good one.
I let it uncut and i posted it short after the dive. It was a safe and cosy dive i Plura cave. This is what we see and hear. Maximum depht was 40 meters
Can someone explain why is cave diving especially so dangerous? I seen the documentary and how the diver got stuck but also how fit do you need to be? As in the documentary after 5h dive to rescue they were exhausted? How? Sorry for silly questions but just do not understand?
In 1987 Bjørn Olav Steihaug and Ronny Arnesen did their first dive in Plura, in the resurgence. The dived about 100 meters into the outlet og approach a depth of 31 meter. The year after they came back with a bigger diving team, with the aim to get further into the cave. Nobody of them had experience with such a big project, and there was not any good team spirit. There was discussions about the goal, how to achieve it and generell irritation about the disagreement. Some of the participants had spend a lot of time doing training and preparations before hand, but others had not been thinking about diving before they arrived in Plura. Among all the projects organized by Ronny Arnesen, this was the most instructive. We used an underwaterscooter (Aqua-Zepp) and a homemaid habitat for the decompresion. Two persons could sit in dry conditions in the habitat. We had a homemaid communication with the surface and breathed 100 % oxygen i the habitat with supply from the surface. In all other situations air as breathing gas and divings suit gas was used. The divers reached 485 meters into Plura from the resurgence, and a depth of 36 meters. We had an reconnoitre dive in Steinugleflåget as well. The diver reported that big passages continued beyond the sumps
@@64Cavediver wow Bjorn, thanks for replying on a year old video. i'm so pumped you answered the poster's question. i was wondering the same thing, i mean how did those 2 guys even know it was there? was someone doing some dry cave spelunking in the upper part and came to water & then said hey, let's grab some cylinders and spot check how deep & where it goes? and then make a bunch of jumps over a period of days/weeks/months etc. until they found out that it exited into that lake? or maybe the other way around? i know you're busy but i'm fascinated by who the first guys that even discovered it and how. if you have any reading or vids for me to watch i would love it. great dive by the way, you guys are a solid team. thanks:) -barbie
@@64Cavediver i think now that i re-read your post that by 'resurgence' you may mean the lake/pond? sorry, i wasn't familiar with that term. so maybe you've already described it all. so maybe those guys were diving in that lake and happened upon the entrance? was that lake a really good dive site or something? sorry for all the questions. -barbie
Enter the cave is not that dangerous for well trained divers, but if you cross your "thin red line" it may be dangerous. Lots of bacup gasses for a safe retreat in every dive and a well trained team
Funny how I ended up here. I was searching for cave diving videos because I'm writing a story that involves characters that do so. The funny thing is, I'm extremely claustrophobic, and very afraid of the water. But the more I watch these videos the more I want to actually go get certified to dive caves.
Thankfully the first diving course starts in the swimming pool and cave diving is a many year incremental journey. It's quite gradual and you determine the speed of progress, so it may just help you overcome those fears.
@~15:30 you look like you're flying through outer-space on your own little rockets! No wonder you all love it so much! It's another world! I am both excited and horrified watching you! Thanks for sharing so that I can experience just a taste of your adventure. It is really incredible!
@@64Cavediver Oh okay. Thank You. I really appreciate the footage. You have to be a special breed of person to have this sort of lifestyle. Simply Incredible, and so scary.
@@64Cavediver . Those who do not dive will never understand the allure . The sea , once it's casts it's spell , holds one forever in it's net of wonder . J Cousteau . Thanks I apologize for ( assuming ) . Bjorn .
@@robcrowley75 Well I done dive i never dive i understand the allure of why they do it? Can you explain that? Watching it is addictive! I keep watching and watching non stop like a movie! HELP!
I understand how dangerous this passion is. knowing how easily things can go wrong, and experienced divers have perished in spite of their many dive hours, do you ever put yourself in that moment of imminent death? I know the goal is to plan your way out of any situation, but those final moments of realization for a diver knowing they simply can not get our of their situation and will die, is a reality for many who never ever saw it happening to them. I don't even go into caves or dive but I find myself considering that moment and how i might feel, what the experience would be for me. Every time you go in you have to know that there's always a CHANCE, so have you ever put yourself in that potential final moment to prepare yourself or is it something you just completely avoid in order to keep yourself from hyper focusing on it? And in the case of the worst, do you have a plan? I ask because I simply can not wrap my head around doing this for fun lol. I commend you all on your bravery and hope you never find yourself in such a position. I just am curious about the general mental state for cave divers since the whole thrill is kinda cheating death.
DAN Annual Diving Report 2018 stated 169 deaths that year. How Do Scuba Divers Die? Information and data from the "Diving Medicine for Scuba Divers" showed: 1% of divers died while they were attempting a rescue. 5% died while cave diving. 10% had received advice that they were medically unfit to go diving. 10% were 'under trained' when they died. 25% got into difficulty at the surface beforehand. 50% failed to inflate their buoyancy compensator. 50% actually died at the surface (not under water). 86% were alone when they died - diving solo or got separated (e.g. misused the buddy system). 90% of the victims died with their weight belt still in place (e.g. they failed to release it). It seems almost offensive to ask somebody very experienced if they are concerned there is a chance one of the above might occur to them, since a lot of that is just negligence of some sort. I am not a diver so I cannot say how accurate these stats are, but the DAN report is a common reference, I know that much.
Ok. Vær forsiktig der nede. Bok du kanskje vil lese hvis du leser bøker. 10 år under jorden med Norbert Casteret. En av pionerene når det kommer til grotteutforskning.
Be good to set up a series of underwater LEDs (parallel-wired) to light up the entire cave length powered by solar plus battery plus grid backup from the surface, so you didn't need flashlights. It would be a great project to set up and illuminate the entire 1km. I think this is possible, though it would take some time to set up.
We use flashlight but there is a lot of tunnels inside and i think the cavedive community dont want it. We also ned a complete dark cave for educateonal purpose
I wonder if it could be mapped out using radar or lasers and recreated for a 3D virtual reality "tour" of sorts. Perhaps tourists could hang from the ceiling for full effect (or in an actual pool with a controlled current, and specialized headset). It would be expensive but really cool for regular people like me :) Oh man, I'm freaking out just thinking about it...
Depends on the foodchain. Depends on the fish. The fish in plura needs the light and do not go further than a point in there. Another cavefish have no eyes but lots of sensors.
Its against the law yo close the cave. We have free entry in the outland in Norway. We cant close the mountais if someone fells down either. The cave was temporary closed a short time during the investigation. The cave is also business for the land owner
I will never have the cajones to try this, but I think if I was going to cave dive, I'd first learn how to use a rebreather. Those rebreathers seem way better than carrying around all those huge tanks. I hope you know I'm not criticizing I loved watching the video. It just made me feel for those guys that had to deal with those tanks.
Those are "stage tanks". They're full at the start of the dive and the extra gas is used to extend the penetration. Using the gas from the stage tanks saves the gas in your main tanks (on your back). You can use them at the start, then leave them behind as you go further, so you don't need to drag useless equipment with you. When you return to the exit (or on a later dive) you pick them up again and use them while you bring them out. Sometimes they can also contain different gas mixes used for decompression stops during the exit. You don't need them deep in the cave then.
Common to use what are called "stage bottles." They are extra tanks that you breath off initially to extend your penetration. You only use 1/3 of your air going in, 1/3 coming out, and always have at least 1/3 to get a buddy out. The stage bottles create a lot of drag, so drop them and pick up on way out.
Awesome vid! Not to sound like a dick but if you invested in a rebreather you wouldn’t hear all of the bubble sounds It would be much more pleasant. But I’m sure you know.
I would panic w in the first ten meters, flail about, silt up the whole cave and drown before the last diver was fully submerged. Mm mm I'm second guessing snorkeling at this point 😬😬😬
Their friends came back a month later to illegal remove their bodies for the family, "no way we could ever leave our friends behind" :) Theres a movie about it. The equipment the divers come across are from the deceased.
What? That''s a weird statement. That incident was in 2014, in another part of the cave and with a significantly more dangerous dive plan. These are not the same people.
People with too much $$ and too much time do stupid things like this... the path up to Mt Everest is strewn with same said Glory Seekers, how about go and do something Positive with all your time and $$. Like help the Homeless. This just encourages other People to do these same assinine things, and many Perish.... imo
Why are you so misable? You can't compare this with the Everest, where Sherpas die because of these climbing tourists. There is a purpose in diving like doing scientific research and construction work If they just do it for themselves as a hobby, where is the problem? Why do you assume they have much money, maybe that's their passion and that's it?! And if you follow the rules of cave diving its not more dangerous than other sports. Doing something positive in life?? Don't you think this is positive for them otherwise they wouldn't do that? And tell me what are you doing for society? If you do fine, but stop so arrogant to people and passions you have no clue about. No one asked about your "opinion".
@@Sm-ne8ff Thanks for rethinking! I was a little harsh, because I was quite offended even tho I am not a diver. Sorry for that. I did some research about diving the last couple of days and I think it's very interesting. Its not something a lot of people should consider, that's for sure. This cave is pretty advanced as far as my knowledge goes, deep and long. Have a good one.
@@seife41 You're welcome I have enough humility to know when I'm out of line and you were right. I think after seeing this video that I'm copying the link to left me feeling both sad, angry and frustrated. It's called Cave exploring gone wrong th-cam.com/video/WyNkm2088Kw/w-d-xo.html
@@snowybooooy i do this dive 2 year after the accident. Cavedivers who use to dive here in Plura cave are very well trained. I also was part of the survey here, but i know those i dive with. 3 divers died here. The first on was in the year 2006. And the two others was in the year 2014. Follow the rules and not do it for personal records. Old experiens diver know their limit and the comfort zone. By the way. I filmed this video with a head mounted gopro 4 black edition. No movie lights. Just to show a team buddy the dive. It was a easy dive for me and i have done this dive several times before. All dive with divers i know and trust
This is what Cave Diving really looks like. On Documentaries many hours are spent lighting up the caves so you can see the beauty .
This is so simple it can be. I filmed our dive. Gopro on my hood and my diving torch. Only for showing some friends what this is
On todays episode of "I'm never going to fucking do that, Nope I don't want to".
You should caption these videos. Names of specific locations, or zones, your depth, decompression stops, breaks, etc.
Brilliant
Sounds like a lot a work for not a lot of reward.
@@trxntroll843 your probably right but it was only a suggestion. The video it self is greatly appreciated
Real DIR diving in hogarthian configuration, I wish I had the inner calm, courage, and training to be doing half of what you did in this dive. wow impressive!! Loved the noise and the footage I would add explanatory subtitles for those who don't know about cave diving. Thanks for sharing and Safe diving 👉🏻
Thank you. I was filming this to show it to a teammember who was not there. Yes we are GUE cave2 divers
Yeahhhhhhh this is a big NOPE for me but mad props for you all. Scary, but entertaining as hell!💜
The real feeling. Less videolight and uncut video
Do you even know what this is about? It's about the deaths of 3 divers in this video. The uploader of this video didn't dive. Lol.
@@SSJGengar i did. I have about 300 dive in here and i was a part of the mapping here. This dive i filmed with my gopro Herob4 black in 2016 and the accident happend in 2014 so please do not assume what you did
Respect 💯
The day of the accident the divers had to use a chainsaw to cut through the ice to get into the cave... there was no ice in this video so can't be the tragic dive.
Incredible. I really wish there was commentary to explain the sections of the dive.
I dive into a an underwater cave. Guy behind me “stop kicking up all that silt!”
Me. “That’s not silt.”
😂😂
The dark rock makes such a difference in viz, despite the clear water, compared to the mostly white caves I've dived in Mexico. Very interesting to see.
Are there any caves with pitch black rock?
I have much respect for the divers who’s job is it to run a line all the way through that entire cave. I would like to know how is the line secured throughout the cave.
With duct tape
@@serfranklin6022 😂
they stick it on with bogeys
With the environment that's it
Press stick or blu tack
Já tinha morrido umas dez vezes, vocês estão loucos, põe uma luz de caminhão aí nesta escuridão. Deus abençoe vocês 🙏🏻
It was great to see how well you all communicated and seemed to be trained and skilled. I dunno what enjoyment you get out of this, though. At a few spots you pointed the light away and it was evident how pitch black the scene is. That by itself is enough to make me tap out. But your lights. They lit up so little. It wasn’t like you could see much. It didn’t light up the cave so you could enjoy the view. It was only enough to see your line and to move forward. If you can’t see anything then why do it? That is my question in this. I’m not trying to diminish the wonderful video you made. It truly was great. I have mad respect for you and what you do.
There's not always some shiny reward, view or what not for doing something, the reward is often time the achievement itself.
plus its pretty cool to be in a place humanity has never/rarely been or observed
You took ever word u said put my mouth spot on wats the point if u can't see anything risking your life its pointless but top respect to these guys
Wow, i didnt realise it got warm enough for all of the snow and ice to melt... I assumed it was just year-round snow. Thanks for sharing, would love to do this dive one day
It was snow higher up who was melting. +2 degrees celsius on our turnpoint
@@64Cavediver😱
Wow that is incredible and scary at the same time.
Why didn't you bring more lights? Like a head light or something? Because only one light active at a time makes for not seeing a whole lot
Still alive breathing to this in March 2022!
RESPECT!! you guys are on another level. This was amazing to watch!!
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 yeah but it was due to errors that were made.
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 well obviously if you look at your radio in car for 1 sec. you can have a fatal car crash. What's your point, these guys are trained and it's their own responsibility.
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 well no there is not, but I was pointing out that they are well aware of the risk they take and that there is a risk in anything you do. + They don't endanger others like some idiots do. Let them do what they enjoy you don't need to understand that. I don't get your horse argument, because that's dangerous too. :D
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 I said just let them be basically, you called them crazy bastards on their own video. I mean com on. Its not like you know anything about it, thats it. But whatever, have a good one.
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 alright, I misunderstood it then.
Watching this resets my resting anxiety rate to 7
That’s nuts so much respect ✊
Fools all
I wish they would have narrated this. There's times I couldn't tell what in the world they were doing
I let it uncut and i posted it short after the dive. It was a safe and cosy dive i Plura cave. This is what we see and hear. Maximum depht was 40 meters
@@64Cavediver Can you also explain why its so dangerous? To give warning that this cave can kill and not for recreational purposes.
58 mins of pure beauty
Wow! You guys are crazy! I’d never do that, good to watch though cheers!
When it comes to being under water, nope. I almost drowned as a child. And I remember some before I passed out.
I dunno but the breathing and bubbles scaring the hell out of me!
And calming for me
Portal 2 OST Volume 2 - Robot Ghost Story is the best music to hear while watching this video.
Can someone explain why is cave diving especially so dangerous? I seen the documentary and how the diver got stuck but also how fit do you need to be? As in the documentary after 5h dive to rescue they were exhausted? How? Sorry for silly questions but just do not understand?
imagine the size of the plums of the bloke who was the first to explore this cave and who put the guide line in.
In 1987 Bjørn Olav Steihaug and Ronny Arnesen did their first dive in Plura, in the resurgence. The dived about 100
meters into the outlet og approach a depth of 31 meter.
The year after they came back with a bigger diving team, with the aim to get further into the cave. Nobody of them had
experience with such a big project, and there was not any good team spirit. There was discussions about the goal, how
to achieve it and generell irritation about the disagreement. Some of the participants had spend a lot of time doing
training and preparations before hand, but others had not been thinking about diving before they arrived in Plura.
Among all the projects organized by Ronny Arnesen, this was the most instructive.
We used an underwaterscooter (Aqua-Zepp) and a homemaid habitat for the decompresion. Two persons could sit in
dry conditions in the habitat. We had a homemaid communication with the surface and breathed 100 % oxygen i the
habitat with supply from the surface. In all other situations air as breathing gas and divings suit gas was used. The
divers reached 485 meters into Plura from the resurgence, and a depth of 36 meters.
We had an reconnoitre dive in Steinugleflåget as well. The diver reported that big passages continued beyond the sumps
@@64Cavediver wow Bjorn, thanks for replying on a year old video. i'm so pumped you answered the poster's question. i was wondering the same thing, i mean how did those 2 guys even know it was there? was someone doing some dry cave spelunking in the upper part and came to water & then said hey, let's grab some cylinders and spot check how deep & where it goes? and then make a bunch of jumps over a period of days/weeks/months etc. until they found out that it exited into that lake? or maybe the other way around? i know you're busy but i'm fascinated by who the first guys that even discovered it and how. if you have any reading or vids for me to watch i would love it. great dive by the way, you guys are a solid team. thanks:) -barbie
@@64Cavediver i think now that i re-read your post that by 'resurgence' you may mean the lake/pond? sorry, i wasn't familiar with that term. so maybe you've already described it all. so maybe those guys were diving in that lake and happened upon the entrance? was that lake a really good dive site or something? sorry for all the questions. -barbie
So dark, I would love to see some passages fully illuminated!
vimeo.com/mikkelstokke/plura2019
Another cave in the same area Litjaaga: th-cam.com/video/_oGjCRgpgVE/w-d-xo.html
@@64Cavediver
Hey mate, can I ask. Are you there legally? I thought this was closed by authorities.
@@samblack5313 legally for sure. Its against the law for long time close
@@samblack5313 It was reopened about two months after the incident, back in 2014.
wow - when he entered the cave at 02:45 this is where I would have said; "sorry guys - I'm outa here....don't feel good".
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing 💖
th-cam.com/video/_oGjCRgpgVE/w-d-xo.html
So I’ve read this cave is so dangerous that not even professional divers would enter it because it’s basically a death sentence.
Enter the cave is not that dangerous for well trained divers, but if you cross your "thin red line" it may be dangerous. Lots of bacup gasses for a safe retreat in every dive and a well trained team
@@64Cavediver you have to use underwater scooters throughout the whole dive correct?
@@krabman2326 i have done the same trip without, but its the best way to transport you in with the tanks
@@krabman2326 but you need scooters trough the whole cave.
Funny how I ended up here. I was searching for cave diving videos because I'm writing a story that involves characters that do so.
The funny thing is, I'm extremely claustrophobic, and very afraid of the water. But the more I watch these videos the more I want to actually go get certified to dive caves.
Best of wishes in writing!
Thankfully the first diving course starts in the swimming pool and cave diving is a many year incremental journey. It's quite gradual and you determine the speed of progress, so it may just help you overcome those fears.
@~15:30 you look like you're flying through outer-space on your own little rockets!
No wonder you all love it so much!
It's another world! I am both excited and horrified watching you!
Thanks for sharing so that I can experience just a taste of your adventure. It is really incredible!
@Dave DDM
Deep cave divers are as close as you will get to astronauts without going to space.
@@samblack5313 True
I can't even endure an MRI let alone this.
is there any more footage to this? I know it's takes far more than 1 hour to traverse this cave system.
Not enough battery and this was not the traverse dive. Dive time was 180 minutes
@@64Cavediver Oh okay. Thank You. I really appreciate the footage. You have to be a special breed of person to have this sort of lifestyle. Simply Incredible, and so scary.
Mrballen always said no no no one thing I learn from him no cave diving 💯
Mr Ballen is the man. Dive Talk has a standing offer for him to go regular diving with them. Hopefully someday it happens.
That’s awesome. It’s my dream to be a cave diver. For now I’m just teaching students but hopefully in the next couple of years will be a cave diver.
Glad u guys made out .....safley ...thx so much .this is so badarse")
It was a very nice and well planned cavedive with high quality and well trained cavedivers.
@@64CavediverLike it is every time before it turns to horseshit.
I was diving in and around Helsinki when this hit the News .
Thinking of the families edit 2014 incident thanks Bjorn .
That was two year before this video, but i still remember the accident in 2006 and 2014 in this cave
@@64Cavediver .
Those who do not dive will never understand the allure .
The sea , once it's casts it's spell , holds one forever in it's net of wonder .
J Cousteau .
Thanks I apologize for ( assuming ) .
Bjorn .
P. S I've R .C written on the back of my jet fins .
@@64Cavediver yes I suddenly thought of the plura incident involving the Finn's . kind regards Rob
@@robcrowley75 Well I done dive i never dive i understand the allure of why they do it? Can you explain that? Watching it is addictive! I keep watching and watching non stop like a movie! HELP!
Mad respect to guys this is art of another world 💯 …… yall have big balls lol I’ll stick to dry caves
I remember the story about this cave... did you guys do the traverse here?
No. Thats not for me. This sump is 135 meters deep.
Great, great video. But, NOPE, not gonna do it! I'm a diver, at least used to be but there's no damn way I'm doing any cave diving much less Plura.
I could never do what you men do. I'm scared of small spaces panic attack straight away me peeps. 👀🙏🙏🙏
Me with instense anxiety of caves...
I love this so much
I understand how dangerous this passion is. knowing how easily things can go wrong, and experienced divers have perished in spite of their many dive hours, do you ever put yourself in that moment of imminent death? I know the goal is to plan your way out of any situation, but those final moments of realization for a diver knowing they simply can not get our of their situation and will die, is a reality for many who never ever saw it happening to them. I don't even go into caves or dive but I find myself considering that moment and how i might feel, what the experience would be for me. Every time you go in you have to know that there's always a CHANCE, so have you ever put yourself in that potential final moment to prepare yourself or is it something you just completely avoid in order to keep yourself from hyper focusing on it? And in the case of the worst, do you have a plan? I ask because I simply can not wrap my head around doing this for fun lol. I commend you all on your bravery and hope you never find yourself in such a position. I just am curious about the general mental state for cave divers since the whole thrill is kinda cheating death.
I climb the mountains on Vancouver Island. I'm not the most experienced so I don't mean to brage.
DAN Annual Diving Report 2018 stated 169 deaths that year.
How Do Scuba Divers Die?
Information and data from the "Diving Medicine for Scuba Divers" showed:
1% of divers died while they were attempting a rescue.
5% died while cave diving.
10% had received advice that they were medically unfit to go diving.
10% were 'under trained' when they died.
25% got into difficulty at the surface beforehand.
50% failed to inflate their buoyancy compensator.
50% actually died at the surface (not under water).
86% were alone when they died - diving solo or got separated (e.g. misused the buddy system).
90% of the victims died with their weight belt still in place (e.g. they failed to release it).
It seems almost offensive to ask somebody very experienced if they are concerned there is a chance one of the above might occur to them, since a lot of that is just negligence of some sort. I am not a diver so I cannot say how accurate these stats are, but the DAN report is a common reference, I know that much.
Did you see the Jari ghosts down there?!?
You guys are crazy/awesome
This is intense.
is this footage of the entire length of the cave
No but to the deeper section. Turn at 40 meters depht
Modig gjeng. Er Plura ferdig utforsket eller er det fortsatt forgreninger som ikke er blitt utforsket enda?
kezzler vi mangler en del kartlegging og håper vi får gjort litt mere nå
Ok. Vær forsiktig der nede. Bok du kanskje vil lese hvis du leser bøker. 10 år under jorden med Norbert Casteret. En av pionerene når det kommer til grotteutforskning.
I thought you guys used the closed circuit Scuba gear?
Not all of us
Be good to set up a series of underwater LEDs (parallel-wired) to light up the entire cave length powered by solar plus battery plus grid backup from the surface, so you didn't need flashlights. It would be a great project to set up and illuminate the entire 1km. I think this is possible, though it would take some time to set up.
We use flashlight but there is a lot of tunnels inside and i think the cavedive community dont want it. We also ned a complete dark cave for educateonal purpose
@@64Cavediver as in?
th-cam.com/video/_oGjCRgpgVE/w-d-xo.html
I wonder if it could be mapped out using radar or lasers and recreated for a 3D virtual reality "tour" of sorts. Perhaps tourists could hang from the ceiling for full effect (or in an actual pool with a controlled current, and specialized headset). It would be expensive but really cool for regular people like me :) Oh man, I'm freaking out just thinking about it...
Wouldn't be natural...we shouldn't mess with nature.
Are the bodies still there? From the accident back in 2014?
They was taken out later same year
Watch the documentary Diving Into The Unknown to see how they were recovered.
@@Yggdrasil42 i was in the hearing afterwords. Have seing the movie. Friends of me
How deep to the cave do the fish go?
Depends on the foodchain. Depends on the fish. The fish in plura needs the light and do not go further than a point in there. Another cavefish have no eyes but lots of sensors.
I thought they closed this cave in 2014 after those two divers died in it?
Its against the law yo close the cave. We have free entry in the outland in Norway. We cant close the mountais if someone fells down either. The cave was temporary closed a short time during the investigation. The cave is also business for the land owner
How do you swim with such massive balls
I will never have the cajones to try this, but I think if I was going to cave dive, I'd first learn how to use a rebreather. Those rebreathers seem way better than carrying around all those huge tanks. I hope you know I'm not criticizing I loved watching the video. It just made me feel for those guys that had to deal with those tanks.
You need to carrying around with lots of tanks wit rb's as well. Rb' is not failsafe so you need enough gas to reach out without the RB.
Amazing 😍
Bubble sound so creepy 😬💦
I feel the same when I dive in my bathtube
Was this before or after those divers died?
After the accident. The accident was in 2014.
@@64Cavediver ok I saw a mini documentary about it that's how i got recommended your video
Very interesting dive!
28:13 "let us pass"?
Must have been rebreather divers.
Very dangerous cave.
It depends about how we do it
2 guys died there in the past right?
Yes in February 2014.
1 diver died in there in 2006. 2 divers in 2014 and 1 now in 2024
@@64Cavediver what the hell theres more?!
@@Sendhelpimdying Staale Tveitan was the first victim. in 2006. Last one died 3 april this year. He was from the US
Damn… all these casualties and they just keep diving
I would love to do this but I am too claustrophobic!
next time with a wide beam light!!!
another cave in the same area th-cam.com/video/_oGjCRgpgVE/w-d-xo.html
I have more videos you can see watch
5:31 is that a sneeze? If you sneeze do you get scared you'll start leaking water?
My mask is always leaking. We use air from out nose to squiz the water out
Why are there so many (I assumed used) oxygen tanks?
Those are "stage tanks". They're full at the start of the dive and the extra gas is used to extend the penetration. Using the gas from the stage tanks saves the gas in your main tanks (on your back). You can use them at the start, then leave them behind as you go further, so you don't need to drag useless equipment with you. When you return to the exit (or on a later dive) you pick them up again and use them while you bring them out. Sometimes they can also contain different gas mixes used for decompression stops during the exit. You don't need them deep in the cave then.
You people are mad... XD respect
Nope nope nope
Why do you tie your gear to the rope and leave it?
We dont need it further inside. We reserve what we leave in our back Mount and use it on our way out or as a safety
Common to use what are called "stage bottles." They are extra tanks that you breath off initially to extend your penetration. You only use 1/3 of your air going in, 1/3 coming out, and always have at least 1/3 to get a buddy out. The stage bottles create a lot of drag, so drop them and pick up on way out.
I cant think of anything I'd rather not do
great video but you need a brighter wider beamed light for making movies . you would see so much more with it
This was not planned as a video dive. I had my gopro on my head
Was that the O2 tank of Jarri
No.
Why are there tanks on the line?
Safety tanks and deco tanks
Deco is decompression tanks. If you go deep, your deco time can be hours.
@@chriscrawford1231 or time. ..
Awesome vid! Not to sound like a dick but if you invested in a rebreather you wouldn’t hear all of the bubble sounds It would be much more pleasant. But I’m sure you know.
Of course, i had once and im dressed up like my buddies
Open circut? Are you insane?
Why not? They're not making a traverse.
I would panic w in the first ten meters, flail about, silt up the whole cave and drown before the last diver was fully submerged. Mm mm I'm second guessing snorkeling at this point 😬😬😬
Nope
55:15 is this where these finnish divers had to abandon their equipment because it was too narrow or something?
Like golf… I just don’t get it …. But then again …. I’m a fisherman….
What happened to the bodies of the two divers who died a couple years before this dive?
Their friends came back a month later to illegal remove their bodies for the family, "no way we could ever leave our friends behind" :) Theres a movie about it. The equipment the divers come across are from the deceased.
"Diving Into The Unknown" cool doco and worth a watch.
I used to just get freaked out in tne basement of my parents old house.
Is this jarri u kai Patrick ?
No
Oh
I thought this was gonna be footage of the time a bunch of people died
This is not that dive
@@64Cavediver Yeah I realised after. You got some really amazing footage in there!
Yo. what happened to paddling. its nice and relaxing and you probably won't die.
Flutter kicking stirs up the silt and that can “silt out” all visibility.
Another cave in the same area th-cam.com/video/_oGjCRgpgVE/w-d-xo.html
Nope.
Respect but hard to understand how this is a hobby or considered fun
Both of it.
Was worth 2 lives?
Not on this dive. This was not a rough dive
Was woth writing bullshit @cherie Erten?
People die all the time without ever having lived. I would't do it, for all the tea in china, but can't question those that do.. it's their life.
What? That''s a weird statement. That incident was in 2014, in another part of the cave and with a significantly more dangerous dive plan. These are not the same people.
Antti quit diving forever .
Never try things not meant for human.. Or you'll be fucked up and become a lesson for others
With that attitude we wouldn't have cars and planes either... Pushing boundaries isn't a bad thing.
Bad ending
Not this dive
One day a 15 year old Chinese kid will do this with a single tank of air, wearing a pair of swimming trunks.
Maybe, but air is not the right solution here. Try trimix, nitrox, and we used different gasses here.
Too dangerous. Achieved nothing...
boring. there's nothing to see. Same scenes over and over
Why doesn’t anybody say anything down there? I’d be saying holy shit! Look at that! And anybody need a glass of water? Lol…
Ha ha ha...i said purp down there🤣
@@64Cavediver thank you! Finally someone with my sensibilities!
People with too much $$ and too much time do stupid things like this... the path up to Mt Everest is strewn with same said Glory Seekers, how about go and do something Positive with all your time and $$. Like help the Homeless. This just encourages other People to do these same assinine things, and many Perish.... imo
Why are you so misable? You can't compare this with the Everest, where Sherpas die because of these climbing tourists. There is a purpose in diving like doing scientific research and construction work If they just do it for themselves as a hobby, where is the problem? Why do you assume they have much money, maybe that's their passion and that's it?! And if you follow the rules of cave diving its not more dangerous than other sports. Doing something positive in life?? Don't you think this is positive for them otherwise they wouldn't do that? And tell me what are you doing for society? If you do fine, but stop so arrogant to people and passions you have no clue about. No one asked about your "opinion".
You don't need internet, might as well give the money to homeless
@@seife41 True enough, my apologies
@@Sm-ne8ff Thanks for rethinking! I was a little harsh, because I was quite offended even tho I am not a diver. Sorry for that. I did some research about diving the last couple of days and I think it's very interesting. Its not something a lot of people should consider, that's for sure. This cave is pretty advanced as far as my knowledge goes, deep and long. Have a good one.
@@seife41 You're welcome I have enough humility to know when I'm out of line and you were right. I think after seeing this video that I'm copying the link to left me feeling both sad, angry and frustrated. It's called Cave exploring gone wrong th-cam.com/video/WyNkm2088Kw/w-d-xo.html
ever met an old cave diver? nope they all dead
Not true at all. How many cave divers do you personally know?
Im an old cavediver
@@64Cavediver see you never met one. Lol
@@snowybooooy i do this dive 2 year after the accident. Cavedivers who use to dive here in Plura cave are very well trained. I also was part of the survey here, but i know those i dive with. 3 divers died here. The first on was in the year 2006. And the two others was in the year 2014. Follow the rules and not do it for personal records. Old experiens diver know their limit and the comfort zone.
By the way. I filmed this video with a head mounted gopro 4 black edition. No movie lights. Just to show a team buddy the dive. It was a easy dive for me and i have done this dive several times before. All dive with divers i know and trust