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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Love from SoCal!

  • @drpeyam
    @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Here I am taking the principal square root, where the angle is between 0 and pi. There is another root, which is -sqrt(2)/2 -isqrt(2)/2

    • @rabindranathghosh31
      @rabindranathghosh31 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess
      -√2/2 + i√2/2 and
      +√2/2 - i√2/2 are roots too
      Since total there are supposed to be four 4th roots of negative unity

    • @TheMazyProduction
      @TheMazyProduction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s is a non-principal root in general?

    • @flamini8853
      @flamini8853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      there are infinetly many roots for this solution because you can go n-times around the circle and still land on the same point with the same answer.
      Swap e^((i•π):2) with
      e^((i•π•2πn):2) n element of Z

    • @ElZafro_
      @ElZafro_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rabindranathghosh31 Those are the values for √-i

    • @EpicMathTime
      @EpicMathTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rabindranathghosh31 No. There are 4 fourth roots of -1, but not all four of them are 2nd roots of i. Two of them are 2nd roots of i, and two of them are 2nd roots of -i.
      I feel the need to point out that this claim can be immediately vetted as false, because it contradicts the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra; your claim is that the 2nd degree polynomial x^2 - i has four roots.

  • @EpicMathTime
    @EpicMathTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A scenic route alternative, without using Euler's equation:
    (a + bi)^2 = i
    a^2 + 2abi - b^2 = i
    Hence a^2 - b^2 = 0, and 2ab = 1, so a = b.
    So 2a^2 = 1, so a = +/- sqrt(2)/2, so b = +/- sqrt(2)/2.
    So, the roots are sqrt(2)/2 + sqrt(2)/2i (the principal square root) and - sqrt(2)/2 - sqrt(2)/2i.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omg hi Epic Math Time!!!

    • @chemistro9440
      @chemistro9440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a^2 - b^2 = 0 only means that |a| = |b|, not a = b.

    • @EpicMathTime
      @EpicMathTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drpeyam Hello! How's it going Dr. Peyam?

    • @EpicMathTime
      @EpicMathTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chemistro9440 Yes, a^2 - b^2 = 0 tells us that a and b differ by at most sign, but 2ab = 1 tells us that they must be the same sign.

  • @rituparnasarangi8913
    @rituparnasarangi8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You're just brilliant 😀😀. Regards from India.

  • @Jim-be8sj
    @Jim-be8sj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Makes sense. This is a good one to think about in terms of how multiplication of complex numbers gives a product of magnitudes and sum of angles.

  • @bhavydugar6665
    @bhavydugar6665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also do it this way
    i=i
    2i=2i
    2i= 1-1+2i
    2i=1+i^2 + 2i
    2i=(i+1)^2
    (2i)^1/2= i + 1
    i ^1/2=(i+1)/2^1/2

  • @Arman-vv6mf
    @Arman-vv6mf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are legend . Please make a video on Reiman Zeta function and Mock theta function.

  • @drpeyam
    @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i th root of i: th-cam.com/video/YGyLpm44Dpo/w-d-xo.html
    ln(i): th-cam.com/video/asPo4xsxFlM/w-d-xo.html
    square root ln(i): th-cam.com/video/fckRSvrbfws/w-d-xo.html

  • @SonGoku-ty8mg
    @SonGoku-ty8mg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your video makes me a genius in front of my class mates and teacher🥳

  • @rajeevk440
    @rajeevk440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could have multiplied it by 2/2 then add i^2 and 1 to make a perfect square

  • @M-F-H
    @M-F-H 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you know the complex plane then it is immediate to see that sqrt( i ) = exp( i 90º)^½ = exp ( i 45º) = (1 + i)/sqrt(2) or the opposite.

  • @squarehead6c1
    @squarehead6c1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One cool short proof you could show is for cos(a+b)=cos(a)cos(b) - sin(a)sin(b) taking a detour through the complex plane exploiting that cos(a+b)=Re{e^i(a+b)}.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love that, thank you!

  • @DrWeselcouch
    @DrWeselcouch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice to see you're trying #Shorts too! I'll be posting one later today.

  • @ricardoguzman5014
    @ricardoguzman5014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy method without e or pi or sin or cos. Multiply inside square root:
    ix2/2. 2i is a perfect square, square root of 2i is i+1. This over square root of 2, done.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you get sqrt(2i) = 1+i, looks like circular reasoning

    • @ricardoguzman5014
      @ricardoguzman5014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drpeyam ?? You never took (1+i) to various powers? This is just what mathematicians do, kind of like knowing the powers of 2. Anyway, what is (1+i)^2? Yep, you get 2i.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh ok that makes sense, but it assumes that you know which one to square

    • @ricardoguzman5014
      @ricardoguzman5014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drpeyam That's what I mean. You're more into analysis. Maybe it's more of a number theorist and algebraist thing. You know, sort of like the Euler sum of the reciprocal of squares. You see that in a problem and automatically know the sum, and continue from there. Us number guys automatically know that when we see 2i, it's a petrect square. Same with other numbers, like (sqrt(2) +1)^n, sqrt(n), etc. We immediately recognize certain properties of the quantities. When I was a kid, I taught my little brother some math tricks. We used to simultaneously recite powers of 2 into the hundreds of millions just for fun, LOLOL.

  • @nolong2284
    @nolong2284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    (1+i)^2 = 2i
    So, i = (1+i)^2 / 2
    So, sqrt(i) = +- (1+i)/sqrt2.
    Is there any loop hole?

  • @umerfarooq4831
    @umerfarooq4831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @rimamalo8422
    @rimamalo8422 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually, there's another way. But the answer you got is also correct.

  • @francocarraminana
    @francocarraminana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo había llegado hasta el tercer paso, de e^(iπ/4) y me había quedado estancado porque de trigonometría sé poco, aunque me olía a que había que usar trigonometría.

  • @FT029
    @FT029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Geometric interpretation of the problem would take 10 seconds at most. Draw a circle, draw the point at pi/2, then another point at pi/4, and done!

  • @prateekmourya9567
    @prateekmourya9567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That rationalisation in end indicates the teacher in you

  • @رضاشریعت
    @رضاشریعت 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember there were actually two valid roots!

  • @nitrojuliet
    @nitrojuliet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like these short vids

  • @tricky778
    @tricky778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you rely on a commutative law for merging real powers which isn't available using complex numbers? And converted sqrt to a power of half?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t use any commutative law

  • @Kdd160
    @Kdd160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have got an another way
    U can let sqrti = a+bi and thens solve for a and b. But tbh, this was way better because it was fast 🤩👌💕

  • @sameermansour1659
    @sameermansour1659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the glory crown of Math beauty !

  • @Xuxixnywhwj1725
    @Xuxixnywhwj1725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a great path

  • @nmmm2000
    @nmmm2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you elaborate about following - if we do sqrt(4), there is only one root, e.g. 2 (and -2 is not root). Why complex sqrt have multiple roots?

    • @EpicMathTime
      @EpicMathTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both 2 and -2 are second roots of 4. When you write sqrt(4), you are specifically referring to the positive one, the principal square root. That is, sqrt(4) = -2 is false, but not because -2 is not a second root of 4; it's false because of the notational definition of sqrt(4).
      The idea of a principal root is a solid concept for real roots because "positive" actually has a concrete meaning: it's greater than 0. The idea of a principal square root for complex roots is shaky at best, because C does not have a total order; an arbitrary complex number cannot be said to be "greater than 0."

  • @ShaolinMonkster
    @ShaolinMonkster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this be done without using the Euler notation, and just using polar form? I think we can, but it takes a little bit more time.

    • @ainsleyfan6926
      @ainsleyfan6926 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      this can be done intuitevely. if sqrt(-1) is i and that corresponds to a 90 degree rotation around the complex unit circle then sqrt(i) corresponds to a 45 degree rotation

  • @رضاشریعت
    @رضاشریعت 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Black pen red pen did this in 9 monutes or something around that
    😂

  • @neck2b
    @neck2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    √ī speedrun 00:00:31

  • @Apollorion
    @Apollorion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about, instead of taking the 2nd root of i, take the i-th root of 2?
    edit: I think the algebra shown in the video will help us find the answer to this question too, but what does that _i-th root of 2_ really mean?

    • @rabindranathghosh31
      @rabindranathghosh31 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that'll be cos(ln2) - isin(ln2)

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rabindranathghosh31 So you think (e^(-iln2))^i=2 ?
      .. well let's calculate: -i*i=1, 1*ln2=ln2 and e^ln2=2 so I agree.

    • @EpicMathTime
      @EpicMathTime 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If we want the ith root of 2, we have 2^(1/i) = 2^(-i) = e^ln(2^(-i)) = e^(-iln(2)) = cos(-ln(2))+isin(-ln(2)).
      As for what raising to the ith power means, this is something I have recently thought about briefly. It appears in some cases that as multiplication by i is a rotation by 90 degrees (tracing a path along a circle), exponentiation by i has a geometric relationship to a cardioid.

  • @tejastorke494
    @tejastorke494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    -1 = e^iπ am i right then y u wrote π/2

  • @RESPECT-gz6ed
    @RESPECT-gz6ed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Square root of i is -1

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No?

    • @RESPECT-gz6ed
      @RESPECT-gz6ed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drpeyam why sir

    • @RESPECT-gz6ed
      @RESPECT-gz6ed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drpeyam the imaginary part of Sqrt of i is -1

  • @noone7692
    @noone7692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was a weird background music

  • @stlemur
    @stlemur 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ooh now do cos(2 pi / 5)

  • @shivaudaiyar2556
    @shivaudaiyar2556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that's a new method

    • @shivaudaiyar2556
      @shivaudaiyar2556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mathsandsciencechannel exactly

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      @shivaudaiyar2556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mathsandsciencechannel this one is amazing

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      @shivaudaiyar2556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @fabiotiburzi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems legit

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    @vojtechrejtar1789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @FreeGroup22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @IfOnlyyou2008
    @IfOnlyyou2008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน