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  • We will find both the square roots of i, i.e. sqrt(i). We will first write sqrt(i) as a complex number a+bi and then square both sides. Then we will solve for a and b by setting a system of equations! This is the algebra way to find the square root of the imaginary unit i.
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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    sqrt(a+bi)=?
    Answer here: th-cam.com/video/CeVdh5LH908/w-d-xo.html

    • @user-RN123
      @user-RN123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍

    • @onradioactivewaves
      @onradioactivewaves หลายเดือนก่อน

      White Chalk Red Chalk, nice 😊

    • @allozovsky
      @allozovsky หลายเดือนก่อน

      Steve:
      0:00 As we all know, √(-1) = 𝒊
      Also Steve:
      8:50 √𝒊 = ±(1 + 𝒊)/√2 - *two answers*
      That's inconsistent!

    • @onradioactivewaves
      @onradioactivewaves หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@allozovsky it's not inconsistent. There's one in Q I and another in Q III separated by p u/2 rotation Much like using an inverse trig function to return an answer in a limited domain where the actual solution may be outside of that domain. Recall that -1 is a real number, I is imaginary, and thr square roots are complex. Complex numbers don't behave quite the same as real and purely imaginary numbers.

    • @allozovsky
      @allozovsky หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@onradioactivewaves If √𝒊 = ±(1 + 𝒊)/√2 gives two complex square roots, then √(−1) also should return two complex square roots, that is √(−1) = ±𝒊, isn't it? Otherwise it is inconsistent. That's pretty strange that Steve often evaluates in his videos multivalued complex functions alright, but at the same time uses only single 𝒊 for the square root of −1.

  • @Electric_Bagpipes
    @Electric_Bagpipes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18302

    There ya go psychologists; the root of imagination.

    • @jologer20
      @jologer20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +392

      This is so underrated

    • @SpiderMan-in9rl
      @SpiderMan-in9rl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      This deserves more likes...

    • @kaustubhi5910
      @kaustubhi5910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Bro what 30 likes 😂

    • @BritishBeachcomber
      @BritishBeachcomber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      The blackboard was designed by a guy named Hilbert.

    • @NStripleseven
      @NStripleseven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Woo

  • @jonhues5552
    @jonhues5552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7567

    I happened to watch this on my break from studying before my leaving cert maths exam. Square root of a complex number was on the exam and I got the right answer using this method. What a crazy lucky coincidence.

    • @dolumdoli7621
      @dolumdoli7621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +236

      Congrats man

    • @artemis_furrson
      @artemis_furrson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Yeah I remember the exam. I used a different method tho.

    • @randomzedotp9579
      @randomzedotp9579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@artemis_furrson What was it? 🧐

    • @Someone-wj1lf
      @Someone-wj1lf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      @Mosinlogan Being interested in what you study is a blessing many students would strive to have.

    • @arian6565
      @arian6565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Someone-wj1lf there's no way people are like that? Lol I didn't know that, that's strange

  • @Abram--S
    @Abram--S 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +300

    What I miss when I zone out for 30 seconds in class:

    • @rubensf7780
      @rubensf7780 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Underrated comment

    • @kdog3908
      @kdog3908 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ADHD moment. Felt it.

  • @nayjer2576
    @nayjer2576 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    There is a simpler way without the polar form. We know a² - b² = 0 and 2ab = 1, therefore a² = b² a = b or a = - b. But because of the second equation we can cancel out a = - b as a possibility. That means a = b and if we plug this in the second equation we get: 2a² = 1 a = +/ - (1/sqrt(2)). Thats it. :D

    • @Arcangel0723
      @Arcangel0723 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      yeah I instantly saw that, its cool how there are so many different ways to arrive at the same answer

    • @gamerdude7800
      @gamerdude7800 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No , just cause a² = b² , Doesn't mean a = b , cause (-1)² = 1² but obviously -1 ≠ 1

    • @nayjer2576
      @nayjer2576 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      @@gamerdude7800 read my comment again

    • @priyanshusharma1812
      @priyanshusharma1812 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ​@@gamerdude7800 he mentioned a=±b

    • @musty2468
      @musty2468 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is how I did it too, nice

  • @PG6813
    @PG6813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4074

    Me: trying to go to sleep
    TH-cam: BuT wHaTs ThE sQuArE rOoT oF i???

  • @BlackIGO
    @BlackIGO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7089

    Plot twist: He has endless layers of boards.

  • @neobaud513
    @neobaud513 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    You can also convert to e^(i*π/2). Then sqrt(e^(i*π/2))=e^(i*π/4). Then convert back to get 1/sqrt(2)+i/sqrt(2)

    • @at_one
      @at_one ปีที่แล้ว +18

      And losing second solution )

    • @CorvusSapien
      @CorvusSapien ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You can get the second solution by generally writing sqrt(i)=exp(i*(pi/2+k*pi)) for k any integer

    • @at_one
      @at_one ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CorvusSapien It's not a solution. You write just answer. Initial post suppose to write i, but not sqrt(i) in exponential form. And than use powering properties.
      One could write
      i = exp(i*π/2 + 2πk)
      i**0.5 = exp(i*π/4 + πk)
      But why we didn't lose something else in this solution?
      Using powering properties is totally wrong way of thinking in this case.

    • @peted2783
      @peted2783 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@at_one doing square root gives 2 solutions
      sqrt(i)= ±sqrt(e^πi/2)= ±e^πi/4 = ±(cos(π/4)+isin(π/4))
      giving the 2 solutions: sqrt(i)=1/sqrt(2) + i/sqrt(2) or sqrt(i)=-1/sqrt(2) -i/sqrt(2)

    • @at_one
      @at_one ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peted2783 this is not a question. The question is about using powering properties.
      My opinion is that your's approach is wrong. On this case it gives correct answer, but in general case not.
      One must use this formula while square rooting:
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Moivre%27s_formula
      But you shouldn't use this formula:
      (e^z)^0.5 ≠ e^(0.5z)
      to find all roots.
      Initial post is about powering. And my comment is about it. I know how to square rooting in complex field 😂

  • @adityellectual4563
    @adityellectual4563 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Another way can be e^(i*π/2)= i for r=1, square root both sides and it will be e^(i*π/4)=√i, which will give √i= (1+i)√2

  • @n484l3iehugtil
    @n484l3iehugtil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3921

    I don't know why people keep complaining about this guy's solution to the problem, and why they offer geometric proofs instead. I really like this guy's answer because it uses only the simplest arithmetic/algebra and the simplest definition of a complex number: a + bi. Also, he did it in an incredibly concise manner. (My only complaint was at the end where he could have used a² - b² = (a+b)(a-b) = 0 --> a = ±b. But, typing this out, I suddenly realise how clever he is that even *factorization* doesn't need to be used in his answer.) This answer is teachable on someone's very first lesson on complex numbers; even the average 15-year-old will comprehend it very well, and he's earned my amazement.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +634

      Billy Ma-gusta thank you Billy. I think people just got too excited. It's like once they see derivatives, they want to show algebra students to take the derivative to find the vertex of a parabola.

    • @alcesmir
      @alcesmir 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Billy Ma-gusta You want concise?
      Polar form: R*exp(iθ) = sqrt(i)
      Square: R^2*exp(2iθ) = i = exp(i(π/2 + 2πn)), n integer
      Identify: R=1, θ=π/4+nπ
      Done.
      Or if you prefer rectangular form the unique representations are: ±(1+i)/sqrt(2)
      Tl;dr: Rectangular is great for addition and subtraction, polar for multiplication, powers and roots. Right tool for the job.

    • @n484l3iehugtil
      @n484l3iehugtil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      My point: Your working is as opaque as it gets. For all the average high schooler or TH-camr can see, you're just writing a whole bunch of Greek because nothing is explained. The polar form of complex numbers isn't explained at all. The polar form of √i specifically also isn't explained, neither is i. Converting between the polar form and the rectangular form also isn't explained. You cannot call this concise when you leave so much unexplained; someone who doesn't know the required background knowledge would call this gibberish. (Like how I call bullshit when I am told "using string theory, we can show that 11 physical dimensions exist". Just an example, don't digress pls.)
      And the greater point: the polar form does not NEED to be explained in order to prove this result, as bprp has shown. Simpler is better in maths, and a short proof is not necessarily a simple proof.

    • @alcesmir
      @alcesmir 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I would happily agree that I assume too much if I for some video on an
      integral complain about someone not using residuals and Cauchy's
      integral formula to solve an integral on the real line since it would be
      trivial that way. But assuming knowledge of the polar form of a complex number, which is as fundamental as the rectangular form, is not a stretch imo.
      As for the specific polar forms. I never use the polar form of sqrt(i), only the polar form of i, to keep things simpler. I could happily have shown a justification of the polar form of i, but it's a bit clunky without being able to show any figures. Basically you have an angle of π/2 to i and any 2π increment of that still leaves you at i. If I had shown this on a blackboard the justification is explained in a few seconds.
      The conversion to rectangular form is really not part of my solution, I'm happy to stay in polar form.
      My point is that this result is trivial in the polar world. It also gives some really nice insights about how the root behaves in general, which is totally lost in rectangular form. Using polar form the result also trivially generalizes to any real power of i.
      Just like addition/subtraction is trivial in rectangular but a mess in polar form. Sure you could technically use the strategy as shown in this video to describe the 5th or 50th root of i as well, but it would be very cumbersome and very brute force.

    • @grrrlag
      @grrrlag 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      you actually don't need factorization to get that a = b.
      1. a² - b² = 0 -> a² = b², therefore a and b have the same magnitude.
      2. 2ab = 1, ab = 1/2, therefore a and b have the same sign (if the product of 2 real numbers is positive, then 2 real numbers have the same sign)
      3. a = b, because a and b have the same magnitude (1) and the same sign (2) (definition of equality for real numbers)
      4.a*a = 1/2 = a², from (3) and (2)
      5. a = ± sqrt(1/2), sqrt both sides of (4)
      6. b = ± sqrt(1/2), from (3)
      I actually prefer this method of solving the system of equations over the video because it takes less steps and is more intuitive. the videos method involves a lot of seemingly arbitrary moving of symbols around while each of my 6 steps have much clearer purpose.

  • @thexavier666
    @thexavier666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4510

    I, as a non native english speaker, watched your video at 2x speed. Got everything you said. Keep it up.

    • @fattymuffinbbx
      @fattymuffinbbx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      You should be an English teacher

    • @trobin
      @trobin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Cough cough the pinned comment cough cough

    • @JannisAdmek
      @JannisAdmek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      me too, I guess as a non english native speaker you are used to a bigger variety of accents

    • @nicholasleclerc1583
      @nicholasleclerc1583 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      OMG EXACTLY ME!!!!!!!!!!

    • @guiguspi
      @guiguspi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. I think improving the accent would be nice still, though.

  • @a_voice_in_the_wilderness
    @a_voice_in_the_wilderness 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That was interesting to follow, I've forgotten so much math including basic algebra, this was very helpful and you did a great job of explaining it all.

  • @jumbledbee3603
    @jumbledbee3603 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had an aneurysm trying to figure out how u were changing the chalk color for like a solid 10 sec until I realized it was just 2 pieces of chalk

    • @antasosam8486
      @antasosam8486 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like two pieces of sqrt(i) ;=)

  • @stalebread9833
    @stalebread9833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2451

    I litterally read it as "Squ(i)rt"

  • @badhbhchadh
    @badhbhchadh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +760

    whitechalkredchalk

  • @kritishalli5073
    @kritishalli5073 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This showed up on my recommended, and I could feel myself getting smarter throughout the video because of your amazing teaching style. You have earned yourself a new subscriber, so thank you

  • @CannedMan
    @CannedMan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My professor taught me something valuable when writing my master’s: Never start an argument/discussion/presentation with ‘as we all know’; you never know who doesn’t know, and thus risk pushing away potentially interested readers.

    • @finnboltz
      @finnboltz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I completely agree with your professor about that.

  • @TheDailyEgg
    @TheDailyEgg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2609

    Okay, that's easy. The real question is:
    How many blackboards does this guy have?

    • @nogame-nolife8537
      @nogame-nolife8537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      lol the same here ;

    • @lukeahandsa
      @lukeahandsa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @The Daily Egg
      yes

    • @pinklady7184
      @pinklady7184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He must be teaching in many different classrooms or renting classrooms.

    • @nurphurecarnium
      @nurphurecarnium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      He's like people in the math problem

    • @slamwall9057
      @slamwall9057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i

  • @waxyacrobat
    @waxyacrobat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1315

    6:05 when he got the answer he started moving closer to the speed of light

    • @SusEGP
      @SusEGP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Lmao underrated

    • @francescolorenzelli8912
      @francescolorenzelli8912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      When you beat a boss in Kingdom Hearts

    • @Star-rd9eg
      @Star-rd9eg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@francescolorenzelli8912 didnt think id find a kingdom hearts reference here ..... i still dont get the joke tho
      edit: Ahh i see the vision is blury...

    • @lqwe5627
      @lqwe5627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmaoo

    • @joey7107
      @joey7107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the same thing haha

  • @Bikeswede7568
    @Bikeswede7568 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another way to see it is that multiplying by i makes the complex number rotate around origo by 90° (pi/2). Multiplying by i^(1/2) instead rotates 45° (pi/4). So, for example, 1 × i^(3/2) = -1/sqrt(2) + i/sqrt(2) since that is where a rotation of 135° from 0° takes us.

  • @AniketTurkel
    @AniketTurkel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just a heads up, writing it in Euler form is way faster.
    That is,
    i = e^[iπ/2]
    => √i = e^[iπ/4]
    = 1/√2 + i.1/√2.
    Edit: forgot a - for the second root.

  • @NotYourAverageNothing
    @NotYourAverageNothing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +894

    Wanna know what's behind my board? It's another board!

    • @_carrbgamingjr
      @_carrbgamingjr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      bruh this teacher is so prepared. he uses 2 different colors of chalk to distinguish between terms and grouping symbols. Good Job!

    • @_carrbgamingjr
      @_carrbgamingjr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Wanna know what's behind the second board? A third board!

    • @vishwaajithn.k3266
      @vishwaajithn.k3266 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_carrbgamingjr yep

    • @stevens5541
      @stevens5541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm board.

    • @_carrbgamingjr
      @_carrbgamingjr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevens5541 ok

  • @ketofitforlife2917
    @ketofitforlife2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1532

    I appreciate the depth of this explanation, rather than memorizing forms, for the sake of speed and ease, you showed me understanding. I appreciate knowing why, over mechanical speed.

    • @woophereigo9755
      @woophereigo9755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You'll get mechanical speed with practice. Idiots just don't know to practice.

    • @manperson6234
      @manperson6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@woophereigo9755 Smart guy over here. Shut up.

    • @woophereigo9755
      @woophereigo9755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manperson6234 Bunch of morons. Get good.

    • @k-fedd
      @k-fedd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@woophereigo9755 yikes bud 😬

    • @sam_music555
      @sam_music555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@woophereigo9755 One thing is be fast while doing your own calculations, another is following another one being fast doing his calculations

  • @HuntingKingYT
    @HuntingKingYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3:20 from these equations you could have just done:
    a^2-b^2=0 => |a|-|b|=0 => |a|=|b|
    Then, knowing that you can go to the next equation:
    2ab=1 => ab=1/2 => sign(a)=sign(b)
    (Either both positive or both negative, because their multiplication results in a positive number)
    Then, because their signs are equal *AND* their absolute values are equal, you can assume their both equal.
    So now you have 2 solutions that differ by sign:
    a=b=+-sqrt(1/2)

  • @warwick802
    @warwick802 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is genuinely the first time I've watched math videos for entertainment. Props to bprp

  • @chetanraikwal5766
    @chetanraikwal5766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1414

    **He lifts up the black board**
    Me - what the hell is thisss?

    • @SuperUghe
      @SuperUghe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      *lifts second blackboard revealing a third*
      “Oh my god!”

    • @chetanraikwal5766
      @chetanraikwal5766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@SuperUghe yeah I guess the future is here!

    • @BenitezCarvalho
      @BenitezCarvalho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      What? This is pretty common xD

    • @TimThomason
      @TimThomason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SuperUghe It's blackboards all the way down.

    • @nanashi_74_
      @nanashi_74_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it is -green board-

  • @asforax8909
    @asforax8909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2084

    There is an other easy way :
    We have i=e^(i(π/2))
    So √i =[e^(i(π/2))]^((1/2))
    So √i=e^(i(π/4))=√2/2 +i √2/2
    It means that √i = √2/2 +i √2/2

  • @sophisticatedplayer
    @sophisticatedplayer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Euler's formula just makes everything easier

  • @27.mdareeb16
    @27.mdareeb16 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just solved this today in my classes, takes less than a min if u do it by converting it into eulers form

  • @GamingConsole
    @GamingConsole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2975

    Ok fine but, Why is he holding a grenade in his hands

    • @kayjaad3349
      @kayjaad3349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      that's a microphone

    • @user-yj5cm1jz7h
      @user-yj5cm1jz7h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

      @@kayjaad3349 $Thanks, I did not know that_

    • @GamingConsole
      @GamingConsole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      @@kayjaad3349 there's something called sarcasm sis......

    • @GamingConsole
      @GamingConsole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @AFancySpoon you'll only get attention if you comment on the board that this guy is using XD
      *Bitter truth tho*

    • @qubatistic4788
      @qubatistic4788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      His parents made him hold it, it'll go off the moment he makes a mistake.

  • @megablademe4930
    @megablademe4930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +828

    My man’s too drippy for us, wearing supreme and teaching maths

  • @reallyoriginal351
    @reallyoriginal351 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as someone who isn't qualified in any way to speak about maths, when I saw sqrt(i), i can say with confidence, that i wasn't thinking of square root

  • @garylawrence7547
    @garylawrence7547 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most amazing part here is that he can write on the board with two different colors in one hand!! Truly amazing.

  • @jabir5768
    @jabir5768 6 ปีที่แล้ว +946

    Very understandable even as a non native speaker

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      thanks!!

    • @anandviswanathan4625
      @anandviswanathan4625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I agree. Your work is very good. Dont worry about trolls who complain and then fight.

    • @YellowToad
      @YellowToad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *egg*

    • @Nylspider
      @Nylspider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@YellowToad egg

    • @rubineronaldvallevivar
      @rubineronaldvallevivar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Es verdad mientras voy en un bus lo miro, por el alto volumen de bus no puedo oír el vídeo, soy hispanohablante, aún así se entiende todo.

  • @RobbyRatPoison
    @RobbyRatPoison 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1090

    Only thing confusing was saying 1/(2*(1/√2)) = 1/√2
    When I looked I instead got √2/2 but if you multiply by √2/√2 you get 2/2√2 which gives you 1/√2 so you were right but that part was the only thing I found to be unclear

    • @TheWannaramble
      @TheWannaramble ปีที่แล้ว +163

      glad you commented because that tripped me up as well

    • @someoneunimportant3064
      @someoneunimportant3064 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@TheWannaramble 2/sqrt(2) should be multiplied with sqrt(2)/sqrt(2) (which changes nothing since it's just 1).
      2*sqrt(2)/sqrt(2)*sqrt(2)
      We know that square root of n multiplied with itself gives us n so:
      2*sqrt(2)/2
      Both sides divided by 2
      Sqrt(2)

    • @TheWannaramble
      @TheWannaramble ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@someoneunimportant3064 very clear, thanks

    • @someoneunimportant3064
      @someoneunimportant3064 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheWannaramble you are very welcome, glad it helped

    • @57energon
      @57energon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheWannaramble that is what I thought

  • @leosheehan7574
    @leosheehan7574 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is Incredible. Never would have thought of the system of equations created.

  • @jawad9757
    @jawad9757 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Equating real and imaginary components in general is pretty useful

  • @TheMasterfulcreator
    @TheMasterfulcreator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1382

    Make sure you don't focus too much on improving your accent first of all. I could comprehend it just fine. Chinese pronunciation works just fine on English language as long as you have practiced. More good videos please.

    • @DavidGarcia-nx2gj
      @DavidGarcia-nx2gj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      you are studying math you dont even know how to speak english to understand this. math is universa, i didnt even listen the audio to understand everything i jus tskipped it

    • @liujanis636
      @liujanis636 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @TheMasterfulcreator I see what you did there.

    • @wildchicken2049
      @wildchicken2049 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice I like what u did

    • @zek9277
      @zek9277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Math is its own language

    • @mattfrankman
      @mattfrankman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My calc class is taught by a Romanian woman, half the class is Chinese. Communication is not a problem. Math is the universal language, numbers unite us all.

  • @mohitdeb6728
    @mohitdeb6728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +821

    Teacher : What is the value of infinity?
    Me : The amount of boards that blackpenredpen has .
    Teacher : 🙏

    • @tsukr28
      @tsukr28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you know he can erase the chalk, right?

    • @thetitanium2353
      @thetitanium2353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @astitva3072
      @astitva3072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Stev Da Great you're*

    • @subh.joydhar_9423
      @subh.joydhar_9423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Teacher said namaste!!🙏

  • @viz8746
    @viz8746 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful and elegant solution.

  • @WarOfTed
    @WarOfTed 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely I can't be the only one who clicked on the video expecting a math-related sq(i)rt joke.

  • @brunoamezcua3112
    @brunoamezcua3112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    I don't understand how this can be SO FUKING PERFECT

    • @stumpfightskills571
      @stumpfightskills571 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Bruno Amezcua, because mathematics is a series of quantitative tautologies, where each system builds off the previous system.

    • @Infinite_Precision
      @Infinite_Precision 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stumpfightskills571 Well said!!⚡🔥

    • @michelmln
      @michelmln ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He almost made a writing mistake at the end (= instead of or) but fixed it immediately...

  • @iaagoarielschwoelklobo6342
    @iaagoarielschwoelklobo6342 6 ปีที่แล้ว +830

    8:54
    10 people got *TRIGGERED* because he didn't rationalize the denominator

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      IAAGO ARIEL SCHWOELK LOBO lol!!!!

    • @Aramil4
      @Aramil4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      IAAGO ARIEL SCHWOELK LOBO No one rationalizes denominators in 2017 - that's what people did back in the day when there were no calculators and you'd prefer dividing the memorized decimal form of the square root by the rationalized denominator.

    • @scitwi9164
      @scitwi9164 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Another thing is that rationalizing the denominator often hides the geometric connections between quantities. It's a bit harder to see that `√2/2` is the inverse of `√2`, but it is obvious when you didn't rationalize it: `1/√2` (one over something is the inverse). It's even more hard to see it with some more complex expressions with radicals. That's why I usually leave it unrationalized, as an inverse, unless I really have to rationalize it.

    • @Aramil4
      @Aramil4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sci Twi I wonder what modern books have answer keys that use rationalised denominators..

    • @JM-lh8rl
      @JM-lh8rl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sci Twi Look; I've got mixed feelings for the conventions of rationalizing denominators or not. You are completely right about maintaining the instant recognition for inverses, but then you'd be compromising the recognition of like terms. For example, 3/sqrt5 does not look like it could be added to 2sqrt5/2, but after rationalizing, you can see clearly that 3sqrt5/5 _can_. Now, on the issue of having the same answers as the teachers do (and trying to overlook the insult to many great math teachers I've met that I'm sure you were not trying to offend), you can't really be opposed to unification of measures or answers -at least to some extent you have to accept it. Of course it makes your life easier to save extra moments on a test or whatever, but using a more real life example with more important implications, the SIU (International System of Units)'s purpose is to ease scientists' endeavors at "sciencing", if you will, by having set standards as to what units are official, what they measure, and how much of that something they measure. This, of course, may mean little to a mathematician's job, but if you can apply this same smooth interchange of information through the answers and numbers you represent, what you try to state will be better conveyed and understood by the audience to whom you present the information to. Anyway, I know I can't force someone to think the way I do, and you have to use the methods that you know are better for your learning (very similar to the π/τ argument), but thanks for reading to the end.

  • @graquaza8180
    @graquaza8180 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in a^2-b^2=1 you can simply add b^2 to both sides to get a^2=b^2 and then cut the roots then use this to get a=b then in 2ab=1 divide both sides by 2 to get ab=1/2 and then use a=b to get a^2=1/2 and then root both sides to get the answer to a and therefore b

  • @DPU54
    @DPU54 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can make it a whole squared by multiplying and dividing '2' with 'i' and then adding '1^2' & 'i^2'. This process will be more easier

  • @harrystuart7455
    @harrystuart7455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    All the people complaining he didn't use polar co-ordinates are completely missing the point. If you haven't already studied exactly why e^ix = i sin(x) + cos(x) then that would make this video completely pointless, the kind of people who want to know the answer to this problem most likely haven't come across that level of mathematics yet

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Harry Stuart thanks!

    • @GaryKildall
      @GaryKildall 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Harry Stuart, well assuming you have a calculator for inverse Tan or a book full with tables of precalculated values for not carefully selected examples. And dividing is multiplying with the power of -1 defined as (a-bi)/(a^2+b^2) but you are free to learn such tables like some people like studying phone book numbers 😋

    • @suhailmall98
      @suhailmall98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree that it doesn't look nice when you first come across it, but polar representation is one of the reasons complex numbers are so useful in the sciences

    • @Taricus
      @Taricus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      densch123 you'll wind up being thankful for the exponential form when you hit differential equations :P

    • @Taricus
      @Taricus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      or theoretical physics... or having to find real and imaginary roots of numbers... and complex functions and variables... lol ;P

  • @henryolsen6248
    @henryolsen6248 6 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    I may be the only one who liked you accent. And could you do a video on differential equations?

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Pink Floyd is the Best Band of All Time. Hi there, thanks!! I do have diff eq videos here www.blackpenredpen.com/math/DiffEq.html

    • @henryolsen6248
      @henryolsen6248 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      blackpenredpen Thanks!

  • @KenFromBarbie
    @KenFromBarbie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i didnt understand anything but ur voice is calming

  • @woodwardscreditcard7482
    @woodwardscreditcard7482 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just shows that teachers needs to be smiling more when doing lectures. Just his smile alone made it more fun to watch

  • @simi_says
    @simi_says ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Surprisingly complex yet also surprisingly simple

    • @henkhu100
      @henkhu100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But wrong!
      The answer is wrong! There are two square roots of i. A value x is a square root of i if x^2 = i. So what you find are the square roots of i. But one of those square roots is ⎷i. Just like 2 and -2 are the square roots of 4, but ⎷4 = 2. and not also -2
      So only the principle root is ⎷i. the symbol ⎷ is used for the principle root. So his answer is wrong.
      For ⎷i see also 5.1 on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root#Principal_square_root_of_a_complex_number

    • @ZotyLisu
      @ZotyLisu ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@henkhu100 what do you mean? in complex numbers n-th root always has n answers, and he showed both

    • @henkhu100
      @henkhu100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ZotyLisu Indeed: there are two square roots(as I mentioned in my reaction). But only one of them can be written with the ⎷ symbol. Example: 4 has two square roots: 2 and -2. But ⎷4 is just one of those values: 2 (the non negative) and is called the principle square root. So when he gives two values for ⎷i he's wrong.
      In the case of complex numbers we have a similar situation. There are again two square roots, but only one of them can be written with the symbol ⎷
      See the paragraph Algebraic Formula. on
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root#Principal_square_root_of_a_complex_number
      For the principle root of x+iy.
      You will see that that principle square root (written as ⎷(x+iy). stands for just 1 value.
      And in the video he gives two values for ⎷i. and that's not correct. May be he does not know the differents between the square roots of a value x and the value ⎷x. The problem he solved is not "find ⎷i." but "find the square roots of i."

    • @ZotyLisu
      @ZotyLisu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@henkhu100 yeah he could've wrote w0 and w1 or whatever, but I disagree that that's an only definition, in my course the value of an expression with ⎷ symbol was defined as a set of all answers - I'm still a bit confused on how that works tbh

    • @henkhu100
      @henkhu100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZotyLisu If ⎷ is a set then what is the meaning of for instance (⎷5)/(⎷6) ? A quotient as a result of deviding one set by another? ⎷5 is not a set, it is just a value.
      Example: solve x^2=7. In your opinion the solution is x=⎷7 because ⎷7 stands for all answers . But the solution is
      x=⎷7. or x=-⎷7.
      The definition of the ⎷ symbol in your course was not correct.
      I am sure you know the solution of a standerd quadratic equation: x=(-b+⎷(b^2-4ac))/2a. or x=(-b-⎷(b^2-4ac))/2a
      Your definition of the ⎷ symbol would only give the first value because the ⎷ symbol already stands for the + end the - in the formula.

  • @spitalhelles3380
    @spitalhelles3380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +514

    Everybody is like 'there' s an easy way:' and then has full paragraphs of calculations.
    Just think in polar coordinates and rotations and the answer is obvious

    • @mrfiermath5036
      @mrfiermath5036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Right? It should just be "what rotation composed with itself brings you to where i sits (90 degrees)". Boom 45 degrees. Boom, express as cos(45d)+i sin(45d)

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yep, I got it that way in seconds. When I was a teenager I was into the Mandelbrot/Julia sets, and the complex plane became my main jam.

    • @inigofield6264
      @inigofield6264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@AlanCanon2222 r/iamverysmart

    • @hispantrapmusic301
      @hispantrapmusic301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MrFierMath what I did, like sqr of i is equal to sqrt -1, leave that sqrt and make -1 to polar, and then the moivre method and that is right?

    • @randomness4989
      @randomness4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didn't have good teachers so this is the first time I understood this out

  • @lizzybach4254
    @lizzybach4254 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Or simply
    √i = √(2i/2) = √(1+i)²/2 = (1+i)/√2

  • @whiteeyedshadow8423
    @whiteeyedshadow8423 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the fact that this man made something so utterly incomprehensible make sense is incredible to me

  • @CharlesPanigeo
    @CharlesPanigeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +796

    You can also think about it in polar form. i is on the unit circle, so it's roots are also on the unit circle. The argument for the principal value must be π/4 (½ the argument of i). So if you have your unit circle memorized the principal root is clearly sqrt(2)/2 + i*sqrt(2)/2. The other root is opposite the principal root at -sqrt(2)/2 -i*sqrt(2)/2

    • @benjamintete7335
      @benjamintete7335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Damn Its so much simpler

    • @maztrjayz007
      @maztrjayz007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That's what I was think. You are rotating half way towards the imaginary number line from the real number line. That would be pi/4 rotation. Then figure out your polar coordinates and trig.

    • @spiderjerusalem4009
      @spiderjerusalem4009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      x = √i
      x² = i
      x⁴ = i² = -1
      x⁴ + 1 = 0
      x⁴ + 2x² + 1 = 0 + 2x²
      (x²)² + 2x² + 1 = 2x²
      (x² + 1)² = 2x²
      x² + 1 = x √2
      x² - x√2 = -1
      x² - 2(x)(√2 / 2) = -1
      x² - 2(x)(1/√2) + ½ = -1 + ½
      x² - 2(x)(1/√2) + (1/√2)² = -½
      (x - 1/√2)² = -½
      x - 1/√2 = ±√(-½) = ± √(-1) / √2
      x = 1/√2 ± i/√2
      √i = 1/√2 (1 ± i)

    • @laurentwatteau8835
      @laurentwatteau8835 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also solved the problem that way.

    • @RichardJohnson_dydx
      @RichardJohnson_dydx ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, that's the way I learned it.

  • @jamessaker270
    @jamessaker270 6 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Really good explanation! Thanks! As an Englishman, I can completely understand your accent!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      James Saker thank you James

    • @destinyovbiebo8988
      @destinyovbiebo8988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, bro. Everyone that understand English would understand this man. Some people are talking about his accent in poor because they don’t understand English. As a matter of fact, they don’t even know the origin of English, to go further, English comprises of different European languages.

  • @lunarl1ly
    @lunarl1ly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you can figure it out quicker if on the second board you go more into a^2=b^2;a=b, 2ab=1; 2a^2=1, a^2=1/2; a=sqrt(1/2)=+/-1/sqrt2

  • @user-FMWM
    @user-FMWM 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By posing i = e^(pi/2), it is quickier to answer.
    At one moment, you divide by "2a", you have supposed that 2a 0.

  • @bleesev2
    @bleesev2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    You went a really complicated way of solving these equations. In my head I did it like so
    a^2 - b^2 = 0; a^2 = b^2; a = +-b
    2ab = 1; we know a and b should be of the same sign so we'll say a = b and get
    2a^2 = 1
    a^2 = 1/2
    a = sqrt(1/2)

    • @mienzillaz
      @mienzillaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yup.. same here

    • @apocalypticachmodio
      @apocalypticachmodio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Exactly what I was thinking. But we would probably get less marks than him cause he did the longer method. 😂

    • @rpgamer1002
      @rpgamer1002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Thats why so many people don't get into maths. Maths can be wathever you want, depending on how you enter in. Many examples show very simple solution or very complex ones for the same question. Which one do you prefer ?

    • @Gehr96
      @Gehr96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Even simpler:
      sqrt(i) = (e^(i pi/2))^(1/2) = e^(i pi/4) = cos(pi/4) + i sin(pi/4)

    • @mohamedwalid6181
      @mohamedwalid6181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even if signs are same It doesn't make a=b

  • @nholrknrjrk
    @nholrknrjrk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    The funny thing is that 1/sqr(2)=cos(45)=sin(45)

    • @kanekeylewer5704
      @kanekeylewer5704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      That's not really surprising, you get this immediately using Euler's identity. e^ix = cosx + isinx, so i = e^(i*pi/2). sqrt(i) = i^(1/2) = e^(i*pi/4)

    • @Infinite_Precision
      @Infinite_Precision 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@kanekeylewer5704 Wow, what is that, I couldn't understand it much but I found it really interesting!

    • @opposite342
      @opposite342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think this method can only get one answer of the square root of i, but I'm not sure. If there is a way to get the other answer, then please reply. I want to know.

    • @TomGalonska
      @TomGalonska 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@opposite342 There is multiple ways to express an angle as a multiple of pi. The angle pi/2 is the same angle as (5*pi)/2 (by just adding 2*pi = 4*pi/2). If you now say sqrt(i) = sqrt(e^(i*5*pi/2)) = e^(i*5*pi/4) = cos(5*pi/4) + sin(5*pi/4) * i = - 1/sqrt(2) - 1/sqrt(2) i

    • @Abdul-pv1qt
      @Abdul-pv1qt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Opposite34 I know I’m a month late but as a person who doesn’t study maths at that level, you explained it really well and i could follow every step

  • @darionbalkaran790
    @darionbalkaran790 ปีที่แล้ว

    sqrt(-1) = i
    (using indices)
    -1^1/2 = i^1
    sqrt(-1) =-1^1/2
    3 dots*
    -1^1/2 = i^1, multiply on both sides by a sqrt() or ^1/2
    -1^1/4 = i^1/2

  • @dhruvitasoni3658
    @dhruvitasoni3658 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It could be done in seconds using euler and polar form of a complex number
    √i=e^iπ/4=cos(π/4)+isin(π/4)
    =1/√2+i/√2

  • @dcmurphy5157
    @dcmurphy5157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    I’m not even doing this for school. I’m just interested.

    • @austinlincoln3414
      @austinlincoln3414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @aaronmisra735
      @aaronmisra735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky

    • @aryanpuri6192
      @aryanpuri6192 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @boltthebot9625
      @boltthebot9625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @joey7107
      @joey7107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, I'm really into this while i cant comprehend every step but i can feel his teaching energy pulling me into it.

  • @traso56
    @traso56 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    i don't care about the haters and their circle formulas, using various methos is really useful and gives more options, i know that formula but using this for fun is really nice

    • @blergblergblerg1343
      @blergblergblerg1343 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a method for determining square roots which uses a system of 3 equations on module, real part and imaginary part. It wasnt fully used here, and wasn't relevant in this case. This guy sucks at math and saying so doesn't make anyone a hater, just a skeptical person who knows a tiny bit about math

    • @Xandawesome
      @Xandawesome 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clearly this guy sucks at math even though he got the right answer

    • @ivanneto817
      @ivanneto817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So you just proceeded to state that there is such a method and didn't explain the method or at least name it, then you said he sucks at math even though he got the right answer in simple steps. Nice.

  • @WhiteDragon103
    @WhiteDragon103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Using a geometric interpretation, since i is unit length, its square root would be a unit vector (real, img) with half the angle. If i is at 90 degrees, sqrt(i) is at 45 degrees: 0.707, 0.707.

  • @quandarkumtanglehairs4743
    @quandarkumtanglehairs4743 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @6:13-6:14 you can hear an excited giggle as he encapsulates quartic root of 1/4th lol
    That is the most beautiful part of this demonstration

  • @spencerdavis867
    @spencerdavis867 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    my nigga wearing a supreme shirt
    real shit

  • @AstroHolden
    @AstroHolden 6 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    i may be complex, but 1 is still the loneliest number.

  • @loghtsy8057
    @loghtsy8057 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    6:31 isnt an easier way of doing that rearranging equation a² - b² = 0 to a² = b² in which case a = b
    then substitute a or b in the second equation so 2a² = 1
    rearrange so a = +-√2/2

    • @infinity8686
      @infinity8686 ปีที่แล้ว

      same doubt

    • @user-jz5sm4vv6v
      @user-jz5sm4vv6v ปีที่แล้ว

      It can be a=-b

    • @ampleman602
      @ampleman602 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If a² = b²
      a≠b
      Never make that assumption
      But it can be a = -b
      Or
      b = -a

    • @nayjer2576
      @nayjer2576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ampleman602 a = -b or b = -a is the same. And he's right, it can only be a = b because of the second condition 2ab = 1, that only works if a = b. If a = -b you would get a negative output.

  • @Pengochan
    @Pengochan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When doing roots on complex numbers (especially on the unit circle) it's really instructive to look at what happens in the complex plane and represent them in polar representation: i=exp(pi/2 * i), sqrt(i)=exp(pi/4 * i).
    The other thing that should be talked about here is mathematical conventions/notation when taking (principal) square roots, especially when first stating that sqrt(-1)=i unambiguously and then having two results for sqrt(i).

  • @mueezadam8438
    @mueezadam8438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I like how you hold your microphone the whole time.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thanks!

    • @Xrelent
      @Xrelent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And two pens in the other hand. That blew my mind.

    • @kaegansloan3794
      @kaegansloan3794 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      honestly though, it just truly added to the enjoyment of the video. He shows so much excitement when explaining and it altogether created a really good video

  • @bensrandomshows1482
    @bensrandomshows1482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    does anyone else notice how oddly motion blurred he get when he's on the edge of the screen, and only the edge

    • @kzushii
      @kzushii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the camera's not in focus?

    • @mariabelleazemar7831
      @mariabelleazemar7831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yesss I've noticed

    • @vizender
      @vizender 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kzushii it does not look like because it just seems out of temporal sinc, not spatial distortion

  • @flash-brawlstars5487
    @flash-brawlstars5487 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you write?
    You do writing
    How do you run?
    You do running
    How do you sqrt(i)?
    You do sqrtin-

  • @MythicalHandler
    @MythicalHandler ปีที่แล้ว

    I showed this to my physics teacher, even he can't keep up with you. Good job

  • @hypercoder-gaming
    @hypercoder-gaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    Another way to solve the fourth root of four being equal to four is this:
    Sqrt(Sqrt(4))=x
    Sqrt(4)=2, so
    Sqrt(2)=x

    • @lc1777
      @lc1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He didn't even need to do all that things for finding A, it just required the simple observation that a = b or -a = -b
      This would mean 2a² = 1 and a = ± 1/√2

    • @user-cc3iu4mp7x
      @user-cc3iu4mp7x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Best way for me is to think of complex numbers as vectors on a complex plane. And if you raise an imaginary nomber to some power you make a rotation.
      i^2 = i^(1+1) = -1 hense you make a 90 degree rotation anti-clockwise and went from the imaginary axis to the real one.
      i^0.5 = i^(1-0.5) means that you make a 45 degree rotation clockwise. Now you only need to decompose your vector.
      The real part is cos(45 deg), and the imaginary one is i*sin(45 deg).

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lc1777 Yes, substituting a=±b from the first equation saves about five minutes of algebra compared to substituting b=1/2a from the second.

    • @pi_xi
      @pi_xi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lc1777 I had the same approach. Much easier.

    • @lc1777
      @lc1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beeble2003 yup

  • @norpedholland5696
    @norpedholland5696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I just realized, this answer has a magnitude of 1 on the complex number plane. If you just looked at a and b while disregarding the i, you could say that with Pythagorean’s Theorem and with a and b as the x and y coordinates, the hypotenuse is 1.
    If you draw a unit circle with radius 1 on the complex plane (which touches points 1, -1, i, -i), then you can draw angles based on the points plotted on this unit circle. The angle of this answer with the real number 1 is 45 degrees. The angle between i and 1 is 90 degrees. The angle between -1 and 1 is 180 degrees. The angle between 1 and 1 is 360 degrees. This answer squared is i, i squared is -1, -1 squared is 1.

    • @alexcarpentier5698
      @alexcarpentier5698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      True, you can also solve multiplications using the complex plane: any two nubers mulitpilied will have an angle equal to the angle of the first and the angle of the second number summed up, and will have a distance from 0 equal to the distance of the first number multiplied by the distance of the second number
      I’m french sorry if this isn’t very clear

    • @spiderjerusalem4009
      @spiderjerusalem4009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      x = √i
      x² = i
      x⁴ = i² = -1
      x⁴ + 1 = 0
      x⁴ + 2x² + 1 = 0 + 2x²
      (x²)² + 2x² + 1 = 2x²
      (x² + 1)² = 2x²
      x² + 1 = x √2
      x² - x√2 = -1
      x² - 2(x)(√2 / 2) = -1
      x² - 2(x)(1/√2) + ½ = -1 + ½
      x² - 2(x)(1/√2) + (1/√2)² = -½
      (x - 1/√2)² = -½
      x - 1/√2 = ±√(-½) = ± √(-1) / √2
      x = 1/√2 ± i/√2
      √i = 1/√2 (1 ± i)

    • @ConstantDerivative
      @ConstantDerivative ปีที่แล้ว

      since it is a power of i, it lands on the unit circle on the complex plane

    • @kyzer422
      @kyzer422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexcarpentier5698 That's really interesting, I never realized that before.

    • @fart-man
      @fart-man ปีที่แล้ว

      so -1, I, and sqrt(i) are all on the unit circle. I wonder if the fourth root of i is as well.

  • @subhrajyotisen7153
    @subhrajyotisen7153 ปีที่แล้ว

    All mathematical complexities aside, the sound of him writing in the board with a chalk is so satisfying

  • @petermartin5030
    @petermartin5030 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To do it in your head notice that a complex number squared is required to give i. So its real part must cancel out. So it is something like 1+i all squared which is 1+2i-1, so that 1 squared cancels with i squared. So (1+i)/root(2) will do, as will minus the same thing.

  • @davidadegboye773
    @davidadegboye773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Or you could just use polar form and the tiniest bit of trig.
    Complex multiplication is a rotation and a stretch, because the magnitude of i is 1, this case is just a rotation.
    i Is a 90° rotation counter clockwise from 1 so you need to find a number that you rotate twice to get 90°. That's 45° So sqrt(i)=cos(45)+isin(45) which is what you got

    • @egoreruamercy4056
      @egoreruamercy4056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nicely

    • @Sjobban112a
      @Sjobban112a 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well you missed out on the other solution there, which is rotation by 225º twice, i.e. √i = cos(225)+isin(225) = - [1/√2 + i/√2] (which is also in the video).
      All solutions to √i are on the form √i = cos(π*n + π/4) + isin(π*n + π/4), where n = 0, 1, 2 etc. Albeit they only result in two unique solutions: ± [1/√2 + i/√2].

    • @rallynub956
      @rallynub956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sjobban112a wouldnt it be sqrt (i) = cos (pi*n + (pi/4)) + isin (n*pi + (pi/4))? cos pi*n = 1, sin pi*n = 0, where n € Z? Sorry if confusing btw :P

    • @Kyulnjir
      @Kyulnjir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeh, but it's for beginners so many people wouldn't know about those

    • @Sjobban112a
      @Sjobban112a 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rallynub956 You are right, I was typing a bit fast. Correcting my comment... :)

  • @Gmod2012lo1
    @Gmod2012lo1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    English is also not my motherlanguage and i understood you justy fine, no complains, ignore these morons :D, they should be thankful you didnt speak your language and just put subtitles

    • @JoaoVictor-gy3bk
      @JoaoVictor-gy3bk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Gmod2012lo1 english is not my mother language either, so it got me thinking: what if non-native english speakers understand other accents better when compared to native speakers?

    • @analuizafelixdesouza6336
      @analuizafelixdesouza6336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@JoaoVictor-gy3bk We really do. That's why I prefer being a non native English speaker.

    • @hayden6700
      @hayden6700 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoaoVictor-gy3bk that doesn't make sense, nor is it true

    • @Matlockization
      @Matlockization 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was speaking bamboo English. Its when I get up in the morning and the memory is loading to the ram but it takes a short time so I'm incoherent in the mean time.

    • @notimportant6340
      @notimportant6340 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your mother tongue? I assume it is west Germanic because you made the typo "justy" which reminds me of German richtig. German? Dutch? Frisian? Afrikaans?

  • @TRINI123A
    @TRINI123A ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks. i was wondering about this when i woke up.

  • @randomxnp
    @randomxnp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely you just use the rotational method of multiplying complex numbers and immediately go to the first root (1/sqrt 2 + (1/sqrt 2)*i) and recognise that there are other solutions that give an extra 2n pi rotation. The first of these is pi away, so negative the first answer, the second is another pi around so identical to the first answer and we only have two actual answers.

  • @ck7671
    @ck7671 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    it's obvious when you write i as e^i*pi/2 then you consider the sqrt as power 1/2 then the sqrt is e^i*pi/4

    • @manu_ovg
      @manu_ovg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The answer is squirt

    • @ricomariani
      @ricomariani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The other solution doesn't fall out that way, but on the other hand there are infinitely many solutions in polar form.

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  5 ปีที่แล้ว +648

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    • @einsteingonzalez4336
      @einsteingonzalez4336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

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      @yoavcarmel1245 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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      @blackpenredpen  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @yasserouhamiche4418
      @yasserouhamiche4418 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When it's power 4 we will find 4 solution i guess!!

    • @kutuboxbayzan5967
      @kutuboxbayzan5967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Another way1:
      İ=e^(i*pi/2)
      Sqrt(i)=e^(i*pi/4)=
      Cos (pi/4)+i*sin (pi/4)=
      (İ+1)/sqrt(2)
      Another way 2:
      Sqrt (i)=x
      X^4=-1
      (X^2+sqrt (2)x+1)*
      (X^2-sqrt (2)x+1)
      Solutions
      (İ-1)/sqrt(2)
      (İ+1)/sqrt(2)
      (1-i)/sqrt(2)
      -(1+i)/sqrt(2)
      And later we found
      Sqrt (i)=(i+1)/sqrt(2)

  • @houssemhoussem9580
    @houssemhoussem9580 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I = √-1
    √i=lucid dream

  • @toyfabrik2993
    @toyfabrik2993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't it much easier to have a look at the situation in polar coordinates, using the complex e-function? That way you see right away that there are two solution, each one a vector in the complex plane with length 1, and theta either being pi over 4 or five pi over 4, which then can be rewritten in regular form using Euler's formula.

  • @harrygenderson6847
    @harrygenderson6847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    5:06 I noticed that not only are +1 and -1 solutions to a^4 = 1, but i and -i are too. More generally for a^n = 1, all nth roots of unity are solutions. Not that ignoring these solutions matters in this case, as they essentially just switch a and i*b but give the same final answers.

    • @sebm2334
      @sebm2334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I dont think we need to consider a or b being i or -i since theyre respectively the real and imaginary parts of the solution were looking for, therefore a and b are real numbers

    • @woophereigo9755
      @woophereigo9755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then shut up

    • @ayushman1940
      @ayushman1940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      a and b are real they can't be i or -i

    • @ayushman1940
      @ayushman1940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebm2334 exactly

  • @norielsylvire4097
    @norielsylvire4097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Did anyone realise he is holding an Ood translator sphere?

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

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  • @alialknane8859
    @alialknane8859 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    هذا المثال في المنهج الدراسي في دولة العراق وهو من أبسط الامثلة في المرحلة الاخيرة (السادس الاعدادي) ❤

  • @johnsmith-ls8nm
    @johnsmith-ls8nm 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A really easy way:
    sqrt e^i pi =sqrt-1
    e^(i pi)/2= i
    e^(i pi)/4 = sqrt i

  • @noahnaugler7611
    @noahnaugler7611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I like the more unit circle method, where squaring imaginary numbers doubles the angle to the positive real line, so square root must half. i is 90°, thus it's square root must be 45°, the coordinates of which are ((√2)/2,(√2)/2), or (1/√2)+(1/√2)i

  • @TheAwesomeMister
    @TheAwesomeMister 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very understandable, couldn't be more detailed.
    And nice that you already did a video on the polar way ;).
    Keep up the good work.

  • @kushagramauni5218
    @kushagramauni5218 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is exactly how we are actually taught sqrt of a complex number lol, nice video!

  • @aurora6814
    @aurora6814 ปีที่แล้ว

    I SWEAR the other day I was just thinking about this and here comes this video in my recommended. So enlightening, thank you

  • @giansieger8687
    @giansieger8687 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    6:50 from there on it’s unnecessary, because you already got the equation a^2=b^2

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +778

    What if we have infinite nested square roots of i
    sqrt(i+sqrt(i+sqrt(i+...))): th-cam.com/video/4EZRXWW607c/w-d-xo.html

  • @minhphamtien7420
    @minhphamtien7420 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read the title too quickly and I read "squirt". You know I clicked immediately.

  • @AM_-wg1hj
    @AM_-wg1hj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An easier method would be to think about i^2 as a rotation to the point (1,0) of π
    i^1 as a rotation of π/2.
    which means that i^(1/2) must be a rotation of π/4.
    And there is also the case for negative angles too which gives 2 answers

  • @quickg0ld446
    @quickg0ld446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i love how happy he is when talking about it

  • @bubbao6209
    @bubbao6209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    2:47 is legendary

  • @raajjann
    @raajjann ปีที่แล้ว

    Multiplication by i by I rotates by Pi/2. So, one can expect sort(i) to be i rotated right by Pi/4. Checking (1 + i) / sort(2) * (1+i)/sqrt(2) = 2i/2 = i. So, that is the solution. This also should be able to generalize the answer for any real root of i.