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  • There are different ways of solving a quadratic equation, such as by factoring, completing the square, or using the algebra 2 quadratic formula. But after watching this video, you will never use the quadratic formula ever again!
    This method is pioneered by Prof. Po-Shen Loh at Carnegie Mellon University and has been invented by the Babylonians, but somehow forgotten with time. Enjoy this wonderful adventure into the wonders of mathematics.
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  • @madomation7984
    @madomation7984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1092

    During a math class, I accidently derived this method from scratch, I thought that this is a new method that no one knew, then realised this is the derivation of the quadratic formula that we were just not taught.

    • @soumyadwipmondal2222
      @soumyadwipmondal2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same bro!

    • @aparnarai3708
      @aparnarai3708 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@epc0003 it's quite possible
      Sometimes you just don't wanna go with the said method and try your best to find another way to achieve the answer
      One does not need to be Po- Shen Lo to come up with this

    • @vanshkhatri8233
      @vanshkhatri8233 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I also derived the formula during my class and showed to my teacher but he said " the book does not say so and I'll deduct your marks if u use the".... nvm I am so happy now that I was correct

    • @pradness
      @pradness ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@epc0003 fr, it's really hard to derive this method from scratch as a student, how would someone come up with taking the midpoint of roots then using it as being equidistant from roots and calculating that distance to calculate roots, I always wondered why addition of roots and multiplication of roots was so easy compared to the quadratic formula but I would never imagine myself deriving this

    • @e_pi_i_is_-1
      @e_pi_i_is_-1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vanshkhatri8233 lmao, this actually happened with me.

  • @mimithehotdog7836
    @mimithehotdog7836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4112

    “Modern Problems Require Ancient Methods”

    • @edgardojaviercanu4740
      @edgardojaviercanu4740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      a wonderful concept.

    • @rahulrathod6770
      @rahulrathod6770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Absolutely right

    • @hozesty
      @hozesty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      E C 100%

    • @jewzetto9492
      @jewzetto9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ironic but sometimes true

    • @trubobu
      @trubobu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Haha ancient chisel go brrr

  • @ac281201
    @ac281201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1320

    When you simplify all the steps taken, it turns out that the _u_ is actually equal to √∆/2a, so this is quadratic formula but in multiple steps instead of single equation.

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      I just came to the same conclusion. This method basically derives the quadratic formula from "graphical" solution. Which I think, is actually quite educational.

    • @leonardokeller5254
      @leonardokeller5254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      My mathteacher used this “method”, well it’s actually common sense if you think it through, to explain us the abc formula

    • @johnspence8141
      @johnspence8141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Yes of course. It’s not going to miraculously break away. But it is definitely an easier way to conceptualize the process. Most students just memorize the quadratic function instead of deriving it. Whereas this method fits nicely into the same method applied to whole number roots. Every student I’ve taught who just memorized formulas deprived themselves of seeing all the connections in math and as a result never become really good at math.

    • @mathsman5219
      @mathsman5219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Perspective changed

    • @johnholmes912
      @johnholmes912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@johnspence8141 isn't the easiest way to just complete the square?

  • @shabbarvejlani
    @shabbarvejlani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Can relate the formula for roots more intuitively now.
    MID = -b/2a
    U= sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)/2a
    X1 = MID + U
    X2 = MID - U
    Thanks for sharing this.

    • @yeet6074
      @yeet6074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey, thanks for compiling this!!

    • @pinkex6119
      @pinkex6119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks for comenting us ew

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1585

    Ah!

  • @angelicbeast
    @angelicbeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Peyam you kept me interested in math! You were my gsi for math 54 back at Berkeley. Since then I didn't continue past abstract algebra but I still love math and I love this channel!

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Ooooooh I remember you!!! Hope all is well 😁

  • @itsankur8745
    @itsankur8745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2206

    Its all fun and games until the roots are imaginary.

    • @nexlord2036
      @nexlord2036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol

    • @Amish0123
      @Amish0123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      do watch the video till end..he took that too!

    • @akul2986
      @akul2986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Guitarzen oh no😭

    • @dororthyruth3045
      @dororthyruth3045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Make sure you are solving real problems

    • @pafauk361
      @pafauk361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Make sure you watch the video before you comment? Complex numbers change nothing

  • @theTHwa3tes11
    @theTHwa3tes11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Math Teacher: You weren't supposed to do that!

    • @lxna5889
      @lxna5889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grrrrr

  • @bigbro5089
    @bigbro5089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    All things aside, Dr.Peyam seems to be so good of heart. He seems to be a sweet,simple and composed person 💙....
    People like him change the bad inside of a person and fill them with positivity 😎💞

  • @RorychattInc
    @RorychattInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    As russians we were taught this in like 5th grade. We call this формула Виета (Vieta's formulas), as they exist not only for quadratic equations
    UPD: yes, you can use them for cubic too

    • @mathadventuress
      @mathadventuress 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      oh so you can use them for cubic?

    • @aryadebchatterjee5028
      @aryadebchatterjee5028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mathadventuress yupp

    • @aryadebchatterjee5028
      @aryadebchatterjee5028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@mathadventuress The formula states that for any equation of degree N which has roots A_i where i={1,2,3...} the sum of the roots is the coefficient of the term which has N-1 as power divided by the coefficient of the term which has Nth power TIMES -1... and just like this when the roots are taken two at a time and multiplied and then added like a series (to clear things up e.g (A1*A2)+(A2*A3)+(A3*A4)+....+(A_N-1 *A_N) )IS JUST THE THIRD COEFFICIENT divided by the the first one and and like so on I would suggest you to look it up on some good book like Hall and knight

    • @hybmnzz2658
      @hybmnzz2658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Vietas formulas should be a must learn for polynomials of any degree. Sad it is not taught to many before university (not even a glimpse).

    • @DRMath
      @DRMath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I learned it in 6th grade, and my teacher use to say if you want to learn math or science learn from Russian and one of my professor (one of the smartest person i met in my life yet)here is US proved it.

  • @leickrobinson5186
    @leickrobinson5186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    If **Dr. Peyam** says that he’s the nicest guy he ever met, that’s really saying something!!!

    • @KokeBeast23
      @KokeBeast23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truly!

    • @abderzakchebbi1339
      @abderzakchebbi1339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, because probably the professor taught him something new.

    • @aryamannsrivastava7279
      @aryamannsrivastava7279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gay??

    • @abderzakchebbi1339
      @abderzakchebbi1339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aryamannsrivastava7279
      no!...we cnnot juge like every nice person is gay thats very wrong...instead in general poeple with a higher education like him are nice bc their are not in the level of juck kids who are looking for trouble or bulliying instead of mind themselves.

    • @aryamannsrivastava7279
      @aryamannsrivastava7279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@abderzakchebbi1339 I am sorry for my words .actually I myself found sir to be very useful and informative

  • @zaheerkhan9236
    @zaheerkhan9236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Imagine someone considering this a scientific breakthrough and u applied it on high-school maths on a daily basis

    • @kumnalkhati2243
      @kumnalkhati2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol

    • @Suvadip1234
      @Suvadip1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True😂

    • @gouharmaquboolnitp
      @gouharmaquboolnitp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are a unacademian?

    • @gouharmaquboolnitp
      @gouharmaquboolnitp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ashwani Tyagi's students right?

    • @x0cx102
      @x0cx102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      search up po shen loh. He does a lot more real mathematics research (in graph theory and combinatorics) as a professor at carnegie mellon, as well as coach the usa IMO team. this is hardly a breakthrough or a new method in any means. not sure why he's calling it that.

  • @deltaman2283
    @deltaman2283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    You're an incredible maths teacher and a human. We need more people like you sir. You're so cheerful. You earned a subscriber here...keep uploading interesting mathematics stuffs here...love your content. I'm gonna use this method for quick solving in MCQs. Lot's of love and respect from the world.
    Thankyou very much for this valuable information.

  • @mattpyth5151
    @mattpyth5151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Actually after watching Prof. Loh's video, I tried to solve one problem myself. I used an odd coeff in the middle term to have fraction solving and to my amazement, it works! Now, I am excited to teach this to my students! :)

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wonderful!!! :)

  • @chriswasabii
    @chriswasabii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    WOOOOOWWW!! My highschool teacher taught me a slightly different variant of this method that was harder to understand back then. This video is very clear, very useful and well done. Great job!

  • @xy9439
    @xy9439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1064

    I call this "completing the square" in a fancy way

    • @aditya2781
      @aditya2781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      🙂🙂🤣🤣

    • @RedRad1990
      @RedRad1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      The equations at the beginning are called Vieta's formulas

    • @ruanlslima
      @ruanlslima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I call it "Bhaskara formula with geometrical intuition" hahaha Completing the square is my go-to though

    • @richardfredlund3802
      @richardfredlund3802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      completing the square doesn't use symmetry in the same way. This is slightly different.

    • @LeoBrooks03
      @LeoBrooks03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, this is essentially finding a turning point and completing the square.

  • @sheikhk.s.sarian2594
    @sheikhk.s.sarian2594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    "Y'all already didn't know that?"
    - This comment was made by Asian Gang

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It is also standard, I believe, in most of Eastern Europe.

    • @kartik5876
      @kartik5876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      This was so basic... I didn't know this method had a name. We were taught this before quadratic formula.

    • @bhabeshkumar8804
      @bhabeshkumar8804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Being an asian indian I didn't know this method, although I know some different easy methods to solve this equation. Always happy to learn more.🥰

    • @elonmusk2157
      @elonmusk2157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meet any CAT or CGL aspirent of india

    • @AnuarLife
      @AnuarLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I m from Russia and we use this formula and name of this “ the theorem of Viet” (Теорема Виета)😂😂😂

  • @janvisagie231
    @janvisagie231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like the fact that you explicitly wrote the implicit explanation for why Po-Shen Loh's method (yeah I just watched his vid beforehand) works. However I have one question, shouldn't this equation be equally valid if you use (x+x1)(X+x2) instead of (x-x1)(X-x2)...that way you won't have to keep changing the sign of the second term in the original equation e.g. in the equation at 2:08 the midpoint will be -3 instead of 3. I know you will have to change the sign of x1 and x2 to eventually get the roots though when using the form (x+x1)(X+x2), which is likely why you are using the form (x-x1)(X-x2).

    • @coldlogiccrusader365
      @coldlogiccrusader365 ปีที่แล้ว

      TY, I cam to the same conclusion how can the sum of the roots be < 0 yet they are both positive.

  • @PrinceZuko
    @PrinceZuko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    If every teacher in Austria's art school back then was as cheerful as you, the world might potentially be a better place.

    • @TheChaosBeat
      @TheChaosBeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

    • @accidentallyaj5138
      @accidentallyaj5138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This is a very specific joke, i am surprised people got this

    • @obyvatel
      @obyvatel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ever heard of being cheerfully refused admission?

    • @brittonporter5063
      @brittonporter5063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is this a Hitler joke? Just want to make sure I’m right

    • @accidentallyaj5138
      @accidentallyaj5138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@brittonporter5063 yes

  • @remopellegrino8961
    @remopellegrino8961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    If every math teacher was as cheerful as you, everyone would understand math!

    • @tmjcbs
      @tmjcbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cheerfulness has very little influence on understanding math...

    • @remopellegrino8961
      @remopellegrino8961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tmjcbs it makes your audience be more interested, hence they will be more focussed and they will learn a lot more

    • @teddylandefeld6380
      @teddylandefeld6380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didn’t understand shit from this vid

    • @amigosdocarro4600
      @amigosdocarro4600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tmjcbs No

    • @centralprocessingunit2564
      @centralprocessingunit2564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nawfal. wns excuses. enthusiasm of the teacher doesnt matter. the actual content is more important. if enthusiasm has an effect on a student then thats just because that student is lazy and doesnt want to do the hard work part on their own.

  • @gbeziuk
    @gbeziuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It's Vieta formula's extension. They taught it in schools in USSR.

    • @francescopiccolo2000
      @francescopiccolo2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Minchia in Russia siete fortissimi

    • @shorge37
      @shorge37 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In russia too

    • @infinixgaming1791
      @infinixgaming1791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well in india too.. we are taught vieta formula..
      x^2 - (sum of roots) x + (product of roots)

    • @heyman9078
      @heyman9078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@infinixgaming1791
      it's a bit different.
      i learned that 3 years ago, but the loh's method use de discriminant for quadratic equations in a ''indirect'' form
      the ∆=b^2-4ac is equal to u.
      since there are many equations that cannot use x^2-sum+product.

  • @gabrielasr9744
    @gabrielasr9744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This guy just seems so happy teaching ❤️ This can really change a lecture for the better

  • @augf6354
    @augf6354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I've never seen a man this excited over teaching, congrats :D

  • @asal2667
    @asal2667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Bro this is literally what's taught in Asian schools. I never thought this formula would change my life lol

    • @hamzamoussaid8895
      @hamzamoussaid8895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      american educatio system bro
      i studied this in 7th grade morocco btw

    • @asal2667
      @asal2667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@hamzamoussaid8895 yep american system too boring, long and dumb

    • @dmitricherleto8234
      @dmitricherleto8234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@asal2667 bro, then why almost every best university in the world is in U.S?????

    • @christiancabrera8926
      @christiancabrera8926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dmitricherleto8234 university and college maybe...but K-12 hell no

    • @asal2667
      @asal2667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dmitricherleto8234 on what basis do you call it the best? just because they say so?

  • @GeoffCanyon
    @GeoffCanyon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +410

    Pretty sure this *is* the quadratic formula, just with a factored out.

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That is correct. In fact, he SAYS that if a isn't 1, you have to factor it out first. If you factor a quadratic using this method, and then using the quadratic formula, you find yourself doing all the same arithmetic. The difference is that if you are good at remembering sequences of operations, this will seem easier, while if you are better at remembering formulas, the quadratic formula will seem easier. They all break down to different rearrangements of the prototypical quadratic, ax^2 + bx + c = 0, to solve for x.

    • @valentinidk6101
      @valentinidk6101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lmao yea it is

    • @Austin1990
      @Austin1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      To be fair, it will all be algebraically equivalent no matter what you do. This is just a different way of thinking about it. The equation becomes:
      for a=1, x=(-b)/2 ± √[ (b/2)^2 - c ]
      Honestly, this would be an easier way of evaluating the quantity underneath the root if b is divisible by 2. But, most importantly, it gives a better conceptual understanding which can save you if you forget the quadratic equation.

    • @dr.weirdbeard6054
      @dr.weirdbeard6054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought so too!

    • @ricardofraser4243
      @ricardofraser4243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      when we complete the square its the same... the turning point -b/2a x-coordinate is the midpoint of the root ... the rest follows

  • @davidseed2939
    @davidseed2939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    i was taught almost this method in 1965.
    rearrange the original equation as x² +2hx +d.
    then x= -h +/-√(h² - d)

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is correct, but I'd like to point out that you would get the quadratic equation once you're rearranged the original equation to factor out the x^2 coefficient. So you end up doing exactly the same arithmetic either way, but the method you are showing splits it into two steps. What makes the quadratic equation nice is that once you have it memorized, it's just one step. So really it's a matter of whether you want to remember one equation, or a slightly simpler equation and another step. What I like about the method shown in the video is that you don't have to memorize anything, and even if you forget the exact process, it takes only a minute to go through the same derivation the describes.

    • @-ClerzZ-
      @-ClerzZ- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure I was taught a formula as x^2 +2ab + b

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-ClerzZ- I'm pretty sure you weren't, because that would not have given you the correct answers. In fact, it doesn't even solve for x.

    • @sasoblazic
      @sasoblazic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. This video really does not add anything new to the solution of the famous equation.
      But how could it? Everything here is completely known for centuries.

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sasoblazic It gives students another option. The math is what it is. Whether you are plugging a, b, and c into the quadratic equation, or you're factoring by completing the square, or you're using this method, the actual arithmetic you are doing is identical. But different people remember things in different ways, so for someone who has no trouble remembering complicated equations, the quadratic equation may be the best way, while for people for whom remembering the steps in a process is easier, then this method or completing the square may be easier. You are right: this method that David Seed describes doesn't add anything to the mathematics, because just as what is described in the video is actually one derivation of the quadratic equation, and completing the squares is another, this is just preparing your polynomial a bit before crunching the coefficients through a simplified version of the quadratic equation. But for every student, ONE of these methods will click better in their mind.
      There are also cases, though, that are easier to do with one method than another. For example, if the x^2 coefficient is 1, David Seed's formula is slightly easier to use than the more general quadratic equation, and if your coefficients are all integers, completing the square or the method in the video may be easier to apply.

  • @rubensramos6458
    @rubensramos6458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For example, the solution of x^2.01-5x+6=0 is x = ((-5/1.01)Wq((-1.01/5)*((6/5)^1.01)))^(1/1.01) = 2.0302 (up to 4 digits). Wq(z) is the Lambert-Tsallis function and, for this case, the parameter q has the value q = 1-1/1.01.

  • @ceres8494
    @ceres8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Everyone:Using this method
    Me: nEgaTiVe Beeeeeeee pLus oR mInuS tHe SqUaRe rOoT oF....

    • @ndakeren8673
      @ndakeren8673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FFFFFFFFFFF

    • @Fakipo
      @Fakipo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It also tells you if the roots are real or not. For me its a lot quicker to solve using that formula. The only problem is remembering it by heart.

    • @bonnieb7608
      @bonnieb7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Omg now I have that song stuck in my head again 🤦🤣

    • @ceres8494
      @ceres8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Fakipo join the cult
      th-cam.com/video/E2eVZFy9yzk/w-d-xo.html

    • @ceres8494
      @ceres8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bonnieb7608 yes

  • @imnotarobot6927
    @imnotarobot6927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Following along with this made me realize where the rule
    "If a polynomial has integer roots, they evenly divide the constant term of the polynomial" comes from
    because if you expand (x - x1)(x - x2)(x - x3)... the last/constant term will always be x1*x2*x3*...
    I was always just told, "if you want to guess integer roots, guess all the factors of the constant term" and never questioned it.
    yay, learning

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. This lets you guess the roots when they are integers. Which is fine for passing math tests, but doesn't come up so much in the real world.

  • @subhojitchatterjee9920
    @subhojitchatterjee9920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Teacher : This is the simplest method.
    Middle term factor : "I don't even exist"

    • @adityagarg9988
      @adityagarg9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Westerners be like: that's cheating😭😭

    • @adityagarg9988
      @adityagarg9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      x^2 - 9 = 0 : idk😂😂

    • @LLT_MATHEMATICAL_FLUID
      @LLT_MATHEMATICAL_FLUID 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The name of the formula is middle term factor, so by its name you have to factories the middle term coefficient of the given equation by the help of initial and terminal terms.
      Here( -6) is the middle term coefficient and -6 = (-4)+(-2) . ( where { -4}×{ -2}= 8).
      So the Answer will be (x-4) (x-2).

    • @subhojitchatterjee9920
      @subhojitchatterjee9920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@LLT_MATHEMATICAL_FLUID kehna kya chahte ho??

    • @HarshHit
      @HarshHit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adityagarg9988 x=+-3

  • @jabunapg1387
    @jabunapg1387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Everybody learns this formula in school in Germany. It's called Vieta's Formula or p-q-Formula (the general solution formula).

    • @pizzamidhead2183
      @pizzamidhead2183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      also in Italy, it is considered the basis of second degree equations, you learn in the first grade

    • @stepanosipenko5032
      @stepanosipenko5032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Also in Russia, it is one of the basic formulas

    • @cyto3338
      @cyto3338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Never studied it as a part of curriculum in India

    • @yagnapatel3912
      @yagnapatel3912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@pizzamidhead2183 I knew Italians were smart, but how do you teach quadratics to 6 year olds. That’s crazy

    • @alenvaneci
      @alenvaneci 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yagnapatel3912 Probably first-grade high school students.

  • @hridoysarkar050
    @hridoysarkar050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Legend: Uses the quadratic formula.
    Ultra Legend: Uses this method.
    Me: I use my calculator.

    • @amitavadass
      @amitavadass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      West Bengal naki Bangladesh????
      INDIA te to calculator allow kore na wbjee &jee main etc te!

    • @DANTE-kv7mv
      @DANTE-kv7mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amitavadass maybe he's in a college

    • @amitavadass
      @amitavadass 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DANTE-kv7mv hoyto!

    • @labib1782
      @labib1782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amitavadass Bangladesh eo korena dada

    • @sumonsohailbnc2059
      @sumonsohailbnc2059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amitavadass jee 2021 or 2022

  • @mayaghazy391
    @mayaghazy391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Love the fact that this got recommended to me when I’m about to have my exam in 2 weeks 😀

    • @shaikabdurrehmanh1506
      @shaikabdurrehmanh1506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I too.

    • @martinj.montag.amritapuri8208
      @martinj.montag.amritapuri8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Careful, in exams it can be equally important that you're examiner recognises you go a "working" way to the solution. Then, if you make a mistake they may give you marks for the way to the solution.
      (Still, I agree it's a wonderful way, especially because it always goes with understanding of how the solution works.)

    • @KayOScode
      @KayOScode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How did it go?

    • @mayaghazy391
      @mayaghazy391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KayOScode it was extremely easy actually

    • @KayOScode
      @KayOScode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mayaghazy391 I love it when theyre easy. Hoping my compilers midterm is easy this Wednesday lol

  • @H336-p1v
    @H336-p1v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    in russia, Vieta's theorem is taught in grade 8, so I don't understand your delight :D
    P.s. srr for bad eng, its google translate :3

    • @gvarun0403
      @gvarun0403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's from West

    • @hanzhoutang9235
      @hanzhoutang9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In China, the method was taught in grade 7... But it’s a great method, anyway.

    • @andrewmathematician7443
      @andrewmathematician7443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here in Czechia, it's taught in 6 grade, maybe even in kindergarten we spoke about it among boys... (Just joking, I am not from Czechia)

    • @navedhasan9722
      @navedhasan9722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hanzhoutang9235 Chinese people are machines! They work alot to use their full potential. I am a 10 grader and learnt it for the very first time

  • @arunkumarcs9191
    @arunkumarcs9191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I thank TH-cam algorithm for showing me this videos in my recommendation. And thank you sir.

  • @muffin_____
    @muffin_____ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Me looking at the title, "I bet this has something to do with viete's theorem" sure enough it does! Just learned about this in class this semester

  • @MiroslawHorbal
    @MiroslawHorbal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Only took me 32 years of my life to stop using the quadratic formula. TY.
    I know what I'll be teaching my kids when they are studying quadratics in school!

    • @chocolateangel8743
      @chocolateangel8743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they're more visual math learners, like me, they might prefer to Complete The Square, using an area model (the same thing).

    • @d6853
      @d6853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, don’t do that. They are taught the formula for a reason, most questions will require the formula, you get marks for working, if you do that you will confuse them and they will lose marks

  • @Khan_Ustad
    @Khan_Ustad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My life changed after watching this video, now I drive a lambo and live in a castle. Thanx dude.

  • @goofygoober6211
    @goofygoober6211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    im in Calculus BC in my senior year of high school in the United States and I've never been taught this!! so cool

  • @shrutigupta250
    @shrutigupta250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    So are you saying that people didn't know this? Like before learning the quadratic formula?

    • @sarbjeetsingh9137
      @sarbjeetsingh9137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes.. in NCERT its done before doing quadratic formula.😂in 10th

    • @lime-limelight
      @lime-limelight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sarbjeetsingh9137 I know but nobody uses, all do these questions with the splitting the middle term
      Tho these identities were told in class 9

    • @sumantakumarrout2432
      @sumantakumarrout2432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lime-limelight that's true what you said tanish

    • @IITians
      @IITians 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just apply Shri Dharacharya's quadratic formula 😄 it'll save your time.

    • @jitendragautam1865
      @jitendragautam1865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't think western guys are that good at maths ...i saw another video where goras were surprised seeing Indians telling squares and square roots of natural numbers .

  • @carterwoodson8818
    @carterwoodson8818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is basically depressing a polynomial no?
    This is related to an important step in solving the general cubic equation.

    • @easymathematik
      @easymathematik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it is.

    • @LKRaider
      @LKRaider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s harsh, we should be nice to the polynomial to help it overcome its depressive roots

    • @easymathematik
      @easymathematik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depressing a quadratic is equivalent to "completing the square".

  • @akshatporwaliitmadras1438
    @akshatporwaliitmadras1438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Huh! This kind of methords are everyday used in class 11 problems for IIT JEE

    • @vishalkhod6280
      @vishalkhod6280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Proud to be jee aspirant 😊

    • @arjakroy8433
      @arjakroy8433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes🤣.. in india 10th ka bachha ye kr lega😆

    • @komalsinghx
      @komalsinghx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mein to ye 6 class mein sikh liya tha
      😂😂

  • @Icenri
    @Icenri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's so smart! Why is it not taught everywhere?!

    • @fullfungo
      @fullfungo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Because it actually IS taught. It is based on completing the square, which is a method used in deriving the standard quadratic formula. If you recall its derivation, you can clearly see how they are identical.

    • @Icenri
      @Icenri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fullfungo Yes, I know that this is how the Greeks worked it out as well, but schools just sit down you in front of the equation.

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fullfungo then why is he touting it's different if it's the same?

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Icenri They do? I don't recall that ever happening for me. Maybe it's just some places where it's taught worse?

    • @fullfungo
      @fullfungo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leif1075 Having different methods to obtain the same result may seem pointless. However, some of them may be more intuitive for a human, while others are more efficient for a computer. There are of course other reasons, but these two are usually the ones that help us make the choice when presented with one.

  • @alakas706
    @alakas706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is just the quadratic formula done as an algorithm. Very nice

    • @Metalhammer1993
      @Metalhammer1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup more exactly the variation of the quadratic used in Germany and India. The Pq-formula. (way less of a headache than the American formula and all you really do is divide by a)

    • @alakas706
      @alakas706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Metalhammer1993 Yeah, can belive so. remaber when I first learned the formula, was a headice to memorice

    • @Metalhammer1993
      @Metalhammer1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alakas706 the american one really is a monster. the PQ one is a bit simpler

    • @m.m.2341
      @m.m.2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My God, the rest of the world uses the ABC formula? I hate that monster.

    • @Metalhammer1993
      @Metalhammer1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m.m.2341 yup. I at least only know Germany and India

  • @cjmq1970
    @cjmq1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a half century, first time in my freaking life I see this method, I was always taught to “use your instincts’ basically instead of the midpoint and the minus sign before the second term of the equation.
    Well, I thunk that after 25 years of obtaining my university degree, my certified professional title and 27 years of labor experience (yes, I started working on my career two years prior to license and degree), it’s never too late to learn something.

  • @pawansoni-sg6he
    @pawansoni-sg6he 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sri dhracharya rule to find roots of quadratic equation is way better and easy...

    • @mathsacademy2652
      @mathsacademy2652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes Sridhar Acharya's method is more easier.

    • @saumyamaurya2603
      @saumyamaurya2603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes.
      They are fools😅

    • @pawansoni-sg6he
      @pawansoni-sg6he 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ayo tebak siapa and why u feeling jealous by this?
      This is true...evan u also use this method

  • @samonterolanjayp.8229
    @samonterolanjayp.8229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I thought we just have to find pair of factors of the c, and if that pair's sum is the value of the b, then those are roots (in ax²+bx+c). Isn't this simplified factor method easier than the video? We can even calculate using this mentally on our 7th

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In general if the roots are irrational, then no

    • @brucesing2089
      @brucesing2089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rolan Samonte this kind of vidoes could save you much time looking for the correct answers

    • @fuiijutsushikifuujin9413
      @fuiijutsushikifuujin9413 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For irrational roots, it's hard, it may take time.. It's possible but it ain't easy.

  • @devankitshukla1370
    @devankitshukla1370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This method is derived from Sridhar Acharya formula sum of roots -b/a and product of root is c/a in quadratic ax²+bx+c

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s the other way around, your formula follows from this method

  • @dramwertz4833
    @dramwertz4833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The pq-formel one learns in germany is basically the same just put into one formula. Always am perplexed that quadratic formula is used in america

    • @Ocklepod
      @Ocklepod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      it's too hard to teach students to divide by leading coefficient.

    • @eskybakzu712
      @eskybakzu712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would assume that it is because the pq-formula is the solution to the equation x^2 + px + q = 0, while the quadratic formula instead solves ax^2 + bx + c = 0, meaning that, it is originally intuitively easier to understand the application of the quadratic formula, since it practically works for all quadratic equations, while the pq-formula occasionally requires simplification of the equation to fit the standard form.

    • @GaussianEntity
      @GaussianEntity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Teaching US students a simplified method would lead to a LOT of confusion when dealing with more complex quadratic equations. I've seen a lot of different methods taught by teachers and the confusion isn't diminished among students, so I don't think it's the method that's the problem.

    • @nathanisbored
      @nathanisbored 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GaussianEntity if anything its the number of different methods that confuses students

    • @musik350
      @musik350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      People in this country are actually presented with either of both formulae.

  • @ajaysane3426
    @ajaysane3426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    We have learned much much easier method insolving these equations in India. Now our pride in our education system increased manifold after viewing this video.

    • @srijanbhowmick9570
      @srijanbhowmick9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems sus why Dr . Peyam didn't heart ur comment altough he hearts everyone's comments

  • @rubensramos6458
    @rubensramos6458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the other hand, the general analytical solution of a^x + b^x = c^x can be found in "On the Solutions of a^x + b^x = c^x" that can be download on Researchgate too.

  • @rishabhasthana1936
    @rishabhasthana1936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you sir! Very insightful, makes me want to play with maths with a different perspective....wow truly eye opening

  • @Maddof_Erroz
    @Maddof_Erroz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "Change my life" is a bit far of a sketch but, still interesting.
    I never thought that there might be different ways to do maths.
    Learning maths like a religion seems wrong. Learning anything like a religion seems wrong.
    This sparked my curiousity to find simpler ways to solve problems, rather than following the herd.
    Ofcourse understanding the fundamentals is necessary, but sometimes teachers make things so complicated for no reason.
    Nevertheless, this was helpful in a way and therefore, I am grateful.

  • @theproofessayist8441
    @theproofessayist8441 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's very interesting how this method that Professor Po Shen Loh has popularized in his framework is midpoint centric whereas the completing the square method to get the quadratic formula is very area centric. The 2nd paradigm hails back all the way from Al Khwarizmi's time as you say - I'll take your word midpoint paradigm existed since ancient Babylon as well it's just its going through a weird resurgence in popularity, 1st back when it was conceived, 2nd when Francois Viete and other French mathematicians looked at sum and product of roots of polynomials, and now today with Po Shen Loh and you Dr Peyam.

  • @pedrocaetano3366
    @pedrocaetano3366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    i wish my math teachers were as cheerful as he, i would have learn math.

    • @dragster9474
      @dragster9474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think your English teacher was also not cheerful

    • @dragster9474
      @dragster9474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂

    • @hardikjindal7010
      @hardikjindal7010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dragster9474 🤣🤣

    • @hardikjindal7010
      @hardikjindal7010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Aadi Ringay which method?

    • @prafulyadav2658
      @prafulyadav2658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure u would be making fun of him

  • @yugandhar9247
    @yugandhar9247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:40 just put x1 = 8/x2 in upper equation you will directly get the answer

  • @martin-__-
    @martin-__- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    this generalizes into the quadratic formula

    • @FrankTuesday
      @FrankTuesday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was curious, so I did the work using A,B and C for the coefficients and was not surprised that they quadratic came out. I guess some people do better memorizing a formula, and others do better memorizing a method. I'll stick to the quadratic.

    • @cgaran9943
      @cgaran9943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FrankTuesday And madmen compute the quadratic formula from the general form of the quadratic equation in the middle of the test.

    • @bobross5716
      @bobross5716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes but this can be used for higher order polynomials

    • @martin-__-
      @martin-__- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobross5716 how?

    • @bobross5716
      @bobross5716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martin-__- just add more terms when you initially factor out the equation e.g. (x-x1)(x-x2)(x-x3)... and continue the process from there.

  • @788home
    @788home 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for sharing this easily understood and accessible method of determining the roots or a quadratic. I always disliked memorizing something if I couldn't derive it and if, instead of using numerical coefficients, I use this method on ax^2 +bx +c = 0 the "Quadratic Equation" I had to memorize just falls out. (As it should!) Thank you.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much!

  • @faysal...
    @faysal... ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 year on and Dr.Peyam is still giving hearts

  • @garyhuntress6871
    @garyhuntress6871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Am I the only one that thinks the mid-point diagrams with the two "U"s over them look like cats?

    • @nullplan01
      @nullplan01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now I can't unsee it.

    • @felipevasconcelos6736
      @felipevasconcelos6736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      UwU

    • @vanessakitty8867
      @vanessakitty8867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good catch. Yes they do.

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, but that, combined with the two 'U's over it led me to wonder if it was going to end up being a drawing of a dog's face, or something.

  • @CommDao
    @CommDao 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You had me at "You will never use the quadratic formula ever again" 🙌

  • @edwincuevas9965
    @edwincuevas9965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Engineers: "just type it into Matlab!"

    • @rudrasama297
      @rudrasama297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fahad Zafar its language to represent to Visualise data

    • @robinsingh9102
      @robinsingh9102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rudrasama297 "to represent to visualise data"
      Godzilla had a heart attack reading this

    • @rudrasama297
      @rudrasama297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinsingh9102 is he Dead now? Or you transplanted your heart?

  • @hansduran9462
    @hansduran9462 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I independently discovered it myself, too, when I was in highschool! I call it "The MD Method". It has three steps:
    1. M= -b/2a
    2. D= (M²-c/a)^½
    3. x= M±D
    Hope this helps. After some more scribbling, I found out that it's basically just quadratic equation torn apart. LOL.

  • @harrygraham9690
    @harrygraham9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Everyone learns this if you do A level further maths, it’s a topic called roots of polynomials

    • @Stxrmz
      @Stxrmz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah yes, a fellow further mathematician

    • @harrygraham9690
      @harrygraham9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stxrmz well hello there. AQA?

    • @Stxrmz
      @Stxrmz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harrygraham9690 Edexcel

    • @akhilkumar3090
      @akhilkumar3090 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read it during JEE prep

  • @DeanCalhoun
    @DeanCalhoun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this way can be written as x=m+-sqrt(m^2-d) where m is the midpoint for the normalized equation and d is the constant term of the normalized equation. we can easily achieve the quadratic formula from this: we have ax^2+bx+c and then we normalize to get the scaled equation x^2+(b/a)x+c/a which has the same roots
    here we see m=-b/2a and d=c/a
    plugging in these values into the formula above will give you the quadratic formula after some simplification

  • @MrRyanroberson1
    @MrRyanroberson1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the reason it was 'tarnished' with the quadratic formula: look at the quadratic formula with a=1. x = -b/2 ± sqrt( (b/2)^2 - c); this is exactly the formula you presented: the midpoint is -b/2, and from this midpoint m, you get (m-u)(m+u) = m^2-u^2 = c, then u = sqrt(m^2-c), and x = m±u, hence -b/2 ± sqrt( (b/2)^2 - c)

    • @bevvy.bee9
      @bevvy.bee9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes, I lost track while reading but this seems right

    • @tobeymaguire647
      @tobeymaguire647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup agree 👁️👄👁️

  • @ming2k
    @ming2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in 1980s when I was in junior high, one of my math teachers in
    China taught us below formula to solve any quadratic equations ax^2 + bx
    + c = 0, then we have (-b/(2a) - u)(-b/(2a) + u) = c/a, then we have (u
    + b/(2a))(u - b/(2a)) = -c/a. Solve the u we will get x = -b/(2a) - u
    or x = -b/(2a) + u.

  • @neyrenbharali2489
    @neyrenbharali2489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesooooooooomeeeeeee
    Why did someone not taught me this in my childhoood.

  • @isi2973
    @isi2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That honestly reminds me alot of the p-q-Formular wivh is a simplified version of the quadratic formula.

  • @Palex1990
    @Palex1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    at the end it is the same as the pq-formula.. the midpoint is - p/2 and then plus/minus u and u is the square root of the discriminant. It is just a nice interpretation.

  • @thatclassicthings
    @thatclassicthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    5:16 - it's a Nightmare 😅😅

  • @rohanbiswas9078
    @rohanbiswas9078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With a certain amount of practice.. the roots can easily be found on mind command.. for complex roots I prefer using the Shri dharacharya jis formula .. which is a lot simpler...

  • @solaymanbhuiyan3993
    @solaymanbhuiyan3993 ปีที่แล้ว

    Other way would be substitution, I find it as an easier option for solving higher order polynomials than their formulas. Dr. Peyam, can you please show if there is any similar way to solve higher order polynomials like the one you showed in this video.

  • @subwaymirdif
    @subwaymirdif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It already changed my life in the first 30 seconds.

  • @pk2712
    @pk2712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have seen basically this method before on you tube where they start with the fact that the coefficient of the x term is the negative sum of the roots and the constant is the product of the roots . I did like your presentation though . The way you show how easy it is to find the mean and the difference to subtract and add leads to an effortless algorithm to find the roots .

  • @gvdheeraj8041
    @gvdheeraj8041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    an even more simpler way is to Differentiate to equation. then the value of x can be found easily and quickly

    • @tahau8282
      @tahau8282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn’t work in every equation tho. And you only find one root

  • @gurjindersingh8820
    @gurjindersingh8820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need a math and physics teacher as excited as you are

  • @sreelekhavj9472
    @sreelekhavj9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We use this concept in 10th grade textbook 😎😎.

    • @milanm5776
      @milanm5776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much grades do you have?

  • @siddique7
    @siddique7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can use the simplest formula for quadratic eq given by Shree Dharacharya(Indian)-
    X= (-b+-√b^2-4*a*c)/2*a
    If the eq is in the form of ax^2+bx+c=0

  • @prodbyrish
    @prodbyrish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    you had to post this after i had a test on quadratics huh

    • @evelocz
      @evelocz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol rip

    • @prodbyrish
      @prodbyrish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vivek-zo2yy Thank you sir for your confirmation

    • @prodbyrish
      @prodbyrish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evelocz :[

    • @-ClerzZ-
      @-ClerzZ- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prodbyrish lol

  • @ahmedelamraoui8874
    @ahmedelamraoui8874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    this is literally just the pq-formula if you put every step in once

    • @donaldtrump9965
      @donaldtrump9965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No its sacred ancient knowledge!

    • @KingKong-mp6gj
      @KingKong-mp6gj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wanted to write the same.

  • @Therealhamidreza
    @Therealhamidreza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For finding midpoint you can say
    In
    ax^2+bx+c = 0
    The midpoint is - b/2a
    & for product It's c/a
    It works absolutely
    You can even draw this equation easily

  • @ashrafkamsa6400
    @ashrafkamsa6400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    See? We found the roots without any required efforts! 😅

  • @rubensramos6458
    @rubensramos6458 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good question is: What are the analytical solutions if the equation was ax^2.1+bx+c, for example? The general solutions of the equation ax^r+bx^s+c = 0 can be found here "Solving the Fractional Polynomial ax^r +bx^s +c = 0 Using the Lambert-Tsallis Wq Function" that can be downloaded on Reserachgate.

  • @vishnutej5198
    @vishnutej5198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so much helpful even for entrances , thank you
    Please make more such videos on other daily maths problems!!

  • @chroanon
    @chroanon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is basically the quadratic formula for even-b's through a graphical understanding, it doesn't make solving the roots faster than the even-b quadratic formula

  • @researchersworld4718
    @researchersworld4718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    We had learnt it in middle class..
    Even geometric representation of quadratic gives this type of conditions of Roots.

  • @sanjayagarwal920
    @sanjayagarwal920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WORKING ! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

  • @sarthakbhatnagar7752
    @sarthakbhatnagar7752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is known as "middle term splitting" in India. We are taught this in 8th grade

    • @aatifshaikh9786
      @aatifshaikh9786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but you can't use splitting the middle term in these 5:13 kind of questions, obviously everyone knows splitting the middle term and this approach towards finding the root is different

    • @abdallahismail8787
      @abdallahismail8787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh, 8th grade 😯, I'm taught this in grade 10

    • @achintyajai2934
      @achintyajai2934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aatifshaikh9786 multiply the expression by 9 to obtain a simpler and equivalent expression and then split the middle term.

    • @aatifshaikh9786
      @aatifshaikh9786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@achintyajai2934 you are right. my older reply was poorly phrased. What i was trying to say was that his method is not splitting the middle term, it is different.You are correct by the way.

  • @TheOldGuy2000
    @TheOldGuy2000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's just a parameter change. What you show here is that using this approach for this particular quad equation that you can solve for real roots perhaps as fast or a little faster.
    Point 1: The amount of work is no longer or shorter in general compared to traditional quad formula. This depends on your equation. Point 2:With this method you lose the intuitive nature of the Quad Formula. At a glance a person who has learned Quad formula can get the center info exactly the same as one does with this method. The rest of quad formula is just the distance on either side of this center. Where the quad formula is better though is that one can tell at a glance if the relationship has real or complex roots and finally how many of each.
    Try this equation, 10x^2 +2x+1= 0 and race someone who uses quad formula to answer. First tell me, will you have one real, two real, or complex roots before you calculate the center (use only the knowledge of your method). A quad formula user can do this in seconds. Anyone can write a quad equation in such a way that it slightly benefits one method of calculation over another. That does not mean that some method using an arbitrary parameter change is necessarily a better method overall. I am sure someone could show you a different parameter change then cherry pick a good quad equation to solve quickly with it. IMO, this method falls far short of the value of quad formula since you lose all intuitive info indirectly supplied by quad formula.
    When we teach, we should first gain a deep understanding of our material. I don't think this method is anything new. I believe it was how the ancient Sumerians and then Babylonians solved in a similar fashion.

  • @rockyasima956
    @rockyasima956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can confirm that this is life changing

  • @futuremindstudycenter4887
    @futuremindstudycenter4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's takes time!!! I will soon upload the best way to find zeros of quadratic equations in one step!!!

  • @madasmaths8510
    @madasmaths8510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10/10 for ingenuity and 0/10 for practicality... It is a NO from me...next

    • @rulersonicboom4737
      @rulersonicboom4737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah The Quadratic Formula is still the best way to get the solution quickly and besides this method (one being explained in the video) is really just deriving the Quadratic Formula in an indirect way.

    • @GaussianEntity
      @GaussianEntity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh, I'd say it's probably more practical for the geometrically inclined. It's probably a net loss of time in terms of steps but maybe some crazy mental calculations can shave a lot of those steps to make it worthwhile.

  • @raunitarya2005
    @raunitarya2005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read this in my school in 9th class. and now I am in 11th and still in India we are using this method for solving quadratic equations and many other problems.❤️❤️

    • @IN2MINUTES
      @IN2MINUTES 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Achi bat hai

  • @vedgehlot9493
    @vedgehlot9493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So productive channel it is. I've just found it today. This method is indeed good. Although, if I fail to do “splitting of the middle term” I use “-b+-[b2-4ac]^[1/2] /2a” which has become fast for me as I have learnt the squares for exams. We have several exams here in India for recruitment in Government Authorities in which Mathematics plays a vital role. It's inevitable and I love it.

    • @OnlineBikash
      @OnlineBikash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hindhu Shridhar Acharya. But sad part is it is not mentioned in our textbooks. I found it from other reference books.

  • @tryhardtimmytravelstotilte4792
    @tryhardtimmytravelstotilte4792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I mean this is great and everything but I found the roots in 15 seconds by just guessing and checking🤣

    • @arslaanbanday5459
      @arslaanbanday5459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got the answers in just a glimpse of 1 sec

    • @welshreaver
      @welshreaver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Saved me all kinds of times on tests. Comes from being raised by my grandfather and old math.

    • @Number16BusShelter
      @Number16BusShelter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sometimes it can be harder the factorise or complete the square, so this method could be useful in those situations. Such as when the coefficients are fractions.

    • @wolf5370
      @wolf5370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's because he intentionally used easy examples to explain the process - which also helps as we can see that it comes out the same at the end.

  • @markdougherty8203
    @markdougherty8203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The underlying issue here is that a parabola has a vertical axis of symmetry which runs though the midpoint between the roots. In the country I am in kids are taught to use this fact to be able to find the min/max of a quadratic without using calculus.

  • @thesuperintendentoffugues1144
    @thesuperintendentoffugues1144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you know where the quadratic formula comes from, then this „method“ should be nothing new.

  • @soumyadwipmondal2222
    @soumyadwipmondal2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a bit of modern confusion!I actually mean that if we equate that further by substituting U there,we actually get back tye quadratic equation!You can try it!But still a good job in understanding the equation easily!
    x= (-b/2a) ± U
    x1= (-b/2a) + U
    x2= (-b/2a) - U
    x1 * x2 = (c/a)
    (-b/2a)^2 - U^2 = c/a
    or,U= √((b^2)/4(a^2) - c/a)
    U=√(((b^2)-4ac)/4(a^2)). By LCM
    U={√((b^2)-4ac)}/2a. Square root of 4(a^2) is 2a
    x=(-b/2a) ± U
    x=(-b/2a) ± {√((b^2)-4ac)}/2a = (-b±√((b^2)-4ac))/2a (common denominator) quadratic formula
    I hope I have explained you!Thanks

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good for you

  • @zhangruoran
    @zhangruoran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is how American math teachers mess up serious teaching and learning process.