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  • The Prodigies have been disqualified from the EPL Season 9: Division 2 tournament due to cheating by a player with the nickname consss.
    The EPL administration analyzed the demos you can see on this video, and also received a similar opinion from the cybersports community about the player's cheating.
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  • @benitokok4756
    @benitokok4756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    Krimzz called Cons movement suspicious on his stream a few days ago. Nice call. Can't beat true experience.

    • @psyroNgg
      @psyroNgg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      olofmeister also called him a cheater week ago while watching his performance at PGL Major Open Qualifiers

    • @MegaSahil009
      @MegaSahil009 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      For sure I mean if anybody could be spot on, it would be Krimz and Olof definitely. Their teammate Flusha was walling for quiet a long period in the early days

    • @mutaziones
      @mutaziones 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@psyroNgg Olof emphasized that he only found him sus, but the bar to be sure he was cheating was not met.

    • @HienNguyen-cs1md
      @HienNguyen-cs1md 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MegaSahil009 Walling on LAN?

    • @CrysisFear
      @CrysisFear 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HAHA coming from an closet cheater like olofmeister himself the full pro scene is a fcking joke@@psyroNgg

  • @n8mo
    @n8mo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

    That deagle round in A Main on Ancient is egregious. No decent player would play in those super forward positions (especially crouched against the left wall). Nor preaim nonexistent angles while looking directly at players through walls.
    As you suggest, it looks even more suspicious *without* X-ray enabled. He’s all over the place, pushing and retreating seemingly at random.
    EDIT: and the fact he’s swapping to his knife while “holding a smoke” indicates he *knows* nobody will push it, and is just waiting there because not doing so would be suspicious. Any decent player would keep his Galil out and ready in case someone tries to flash or nade through the smoke.

    • @Kuchi112
      @Kuchi112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if you talk about 2:50 it's a common angle to hold but the shady part it's the way he does it.

    • @n8mo
      @n8mo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Kuchi112yes, that angle is fine, it’s everything prior to it that I take issue with, particularly when he’s playing further toward T spawn.

    • @toothlessthefc4394
      @toothlessthefc4394 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      sad part is he still died when neither of them new he was there. imagine cheating and still getting shit on xD

    • @karlkarlsson9126
      @karlkarlsson9126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheaters always easy to spot eventually because they base their style on what they see through walls, while legit players always have to be on the edge and guess. I think this guy just turns it on and off for moments that matters.

    • @davisgrikis3381
      @davisgrikis3381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kuchi112 even with cheats he suck ass and hes iq is bellow everyone, somehow 2 enemy pass hes position ? randomly kill only 1 guy lmao that was bad to watch. i dont know if he cheats, i dont care if he cheats and of course i hope all cheaters just disappear

  • @Alex-zh3dq
    @Alex-zh3dq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    Practically all the time watching this guy without x-ray, the immediate instinct is to say "no way he gets any kills here" because he's not clearing possible angles, the angles he clears are sloppy, his movement isn't good, if I'm watching this guy in FaceIt I'm saying he's either distracted by something or just not good. Yet every time seconds before contact, he's hyper-focused and ready for the exact fight that's coming.
    Good to see someone knowledgeable about how the game works analyzing a cheater and not somebody just shouting "crisp clean lock boys".

    • @michaelpellegrino6745
      @michaelpellegrino6745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      now i want to see Dan M review some of this guys demos

    • @eduardnemec7983
      @eduardnemec7983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When he was clearing lazily ancient A I thought to myself that this is the kind of clear I would do with my dumb not experienced ass 😅

    • @shockat5070
      @shockat5070 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelpellegrino6745 he'd call silver 1 aim locker if he'd look at a guy through the wall for 0.001 seconds

    • @Neveri93
      @Neveri93 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes my thoughts exactly. I think he is very suspicious. The biggest red flag for me is that he is conveniently in the right place every time and yet mechanically he doesn't look very good. I mean at least not on the level you'd expect him to be. Playing against real pros and everything (still performing).

    • @shockat5070
      @shockat5070 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Neveri93 but he's just 3.3 k ELO

  • @Tyraelxadrias
    @Tyraelxadrias 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    So this guy got banned for cheating not because of the A/C but because he was shit at hiding how obvious he is... Now... Imagine a Pro player with good game sense and insane aim and was able to hide it in a not so suspicious way...

  • @Muty
    @Muty 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    His gameplay in general does not pass the bar for playing in tier 2/3. I would question his teammates' and friends' integrity, because even after a few games together this has to be noticeable.

    • @---hz4du
      @---hz4du 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Its pretty common that IGLs doesnt have the best mechanics, therefore I wouldnt look much into that. So at first glance when you know that he has played on multiple LANs I wouldnt suspect him of cheating. But watching back the demo with the x-ray on, everything is too convenient. Pretty sure he is playing with some kind of radar/wh. But dont go blaming his mates because they are a newly formed team that doesnt have experience playing with eachother, almost all of them made statements that they decided to leave the team after the evidence came through since they dont want to be caught up in this mess....

    • @user-xn3tk8ys6x
      @user-xn3tk8ys6x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "It's common that IGLs have mechanics of your average DMG player" is not something I expected to read today.

    • @---hz4du
      @---hz4du 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-xn3tk8ys6x I mean he definitely has better mechanics than that. Also if you learn how to read you can see that that wasnt the point I was trying to make

    • @serveri69
      @serveri69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@---hz4du Ya maybe not best mechanics but this guy is absolute dogshit

    • @bamba1631
      @bamba1631 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my thoughts exactly, if we can all so it clear as day NO FUCKING SHOT did the PROS on his team nahhh they knew.

  • @alessandroluchetti9650
    @alessandroluchetti9650 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    A team with a player with such a bad crosshair placement winning a pro team Just says everything

  • @The_savvy_Lynx
    @The_savvy_Lynx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Looking suspicious, but not too obvious.... if you could see that he was actually a highly disciplined player. And you can clearly see he's not. Poor crosshair placement, trigger discipline and overall aim. Even WH can't carry him. He should get a real job.

  • @Tjoffe
    @Tjoffe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Just seeing the first clip made me instantly believe he cheated. Not only did he push A main but he pushed A main when three of his teammates had the entirety of B, there is literally no reason for him to push cause that would make you more aware and ready for an A attack in that case. What a fucking joke lol. Glad he is out.

    • @makmurarafat4107
      @makmurarafat4107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If u have 1 play top mid and see contact at elbow its just normal to push a main bcs tgag means they try to rush mid but stuck at elbow

    • @makmurarafat4107
      @makmurarafat4107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem is he recheck the angle hes been cleared. Even Ropz will not doing that

    • @makmurarafat4107
      @makmurarafat4107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Other dumb thing this guy walling but play as a anchor while u can have a lot of info if u play donut. Fkin disgrace even in hackers community

    • @HienNguyen-cs1md
      @HienNguyen-cs1md 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@makmurarafat4107 I guess he's also hiding the cheats from this teammates? Probably just a radar hack

  • @keitarozin
    @keitarozin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    02:06 Nice clearing.. Not even 6 seconds passed and he checked this corner.

    • @darioferrari9794
      @darioferrari9794 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      This is actually a really important point! It's one of the biggest tells that he could be stuck in the mindset of covering up the cheating

    • @marcosojer
      @marcosojer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      it was just acting (a bad one)

    • @HienNguyen-cs1md
      @HienNguyen-cs1md 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's how you tell somone that's not a pro. Checking corner like that with a deagle on a eco round. Sure dude

  • @JohnSmith81991
    @JohnSmith81991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    some more things to notice:
    1:21 he weirdly wiggles in the place, which doesn't seem to be a way of checking little-by-little, and surely isn't common A-D jiggle that u would possibly want to do, if you'd stop at an angle, but it looks like as if he was hesitant to move forward, as you noticed
    1:29 with how much of every corner he was clearing previously, he wasn't really interested to first move against the other wall, and check every angle close to Chr1zn's position, also when he looks in the direction of Chrizn, he stops moving his mouse, as if he was unsure, whether he's looking at an opponent, or just an empty space (lol) -- a cheater in his place might have wanted to do this as to make sure that Chrizn isn't moving back here. also shortly after that, around 1:31 in the video, he doesn't just go back to checking every position (he doesn't even check common position on the right, while he's walking out of B entrance), but just moves his crosshair at seemingly random spots. also pulling out knife being so close to mid? lol
    2:00 same hesitant moving in the place, if it's a habit when watching an angle, it's a one weird habit
    7:19 not checking important positions as you noticed, but also decision making: after molly he backs up to the stairs and after that he instantly goes back forward, as if he knew that nobody is gonna catch him on +w
    agree with the yard play, 10:06 and the jumping in garage, but also check out 10:55 - he doesn't seem one bit careful abt the fact that someone could be behind red and kill him as he was jumping there
    12:23 what is he checking rn? if someone is standing on the railings? he clearly would like to just aim where the PR is, asap
    agree on the awping from silo
    other clips don't really speak to me as suspicious, they might just be plays based on the knowledge of opposite team's economy (as i guess) or just trying your sheer luck. but i think it's pretty blatant that he was cheating, and even if he wasn't, it's no biggie, since those clips show that he is a bad player, and thus we can watch less of those in a high-priced tournaments, like we would want to (lol)

  • @Laut1cs
    @Laut1cs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    7:29 says it all its abvious af HAHAh he got nervous and threw the flash and fell back who does that HAHAH

  • @dota2arcade603
    @dota2arcade603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Compare how he clears garage in 6:02 and 14:09. He didnt even jiggled or pre aim garage in 14:09.

  • @Philipppppppppppppp
    @Philipppppppppppppp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    These clips wouldn't be all too suspicious and could be attributed to dumb luck of some 1600 elo player, but it feels extremely unlikely that a player with such low mechanical abilities and awarness could hold himself in a semi-professional environment without some sort of illegal assistance. Favorite part is when he just peeked three different angles with a molotov in hand in secret.

  • @fadftw
    @fadftw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Wp EPL, really glad you did this, and hope you will do more like these in the future cause they are so many cheaters in tier 3/2.

    • @prostochelios
      @prostochelios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      omg dude EPL is a hotbed of leaking matches, the organizer for the most part everything is fine, if they wanted they would have discovered something like this long ago, but all they are interested in is the hype around their worthless league

  • @kartyae
    @kartyae 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    What we truly need an explanation about is, how can you cheat and be so bad? We see it all the time. Bro can see people through the walls, knows the timing of them coming out from behind cover, and still misses with an awp wtf

    • @singular9
      @singular9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Because average cs player things cheaters are good.
      Only bad players cheat. This they will always be bad. Most cheaters are silvers and then cheats boost them higher. But they still have the brains of a silver.

    • @arog7493
      @arog7493 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because cheating is a crutch, you will never have to improve at the game itself because the cheat does it for you.

    • @user-xn3tk8ys6x
      @user-xn3tk8ys6x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because you need an actual brain to cheat like that and not be obvious as fuck. He's probably too busy thinking whether anything he does is suspicious and makes "mistakes" on purpose to make it seem legit not realizing that makes it even more obvious.

    • @user-xn3tk8ys6x
      @user-xn3tk8ys6x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's factually untrue@@singular9

  • @dennisw.5266
    @dennisw.5266 หลายเดือนก่อน

    look at the crosshair...isnt it blinking at crosshair edge where the enemy is? just slightly...or is it an video issue ?

  • @EZOVSKy
    @EZOVSKy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    cons has an account created on Steam on 13.09.2022 with 1300 faceit matches. His old account, unfortunately you can't get into the profile or the steam profile on faceit, had between 6000-7000 matches. When he played for Levadia in 2021, he had 5800 matches. Currently cons has a different account, anyone know why?
    Someone on his steam profile this summer wrote the following comment:
    PauLino P 28 lipca 2023 o 2:40
    HAHA your old account got VAC banned. How does it feel looking in the mirror knowing youre a clown. enjoy your L.
    I didn't go into details about it, but if his first account got a vac ban, he must have cheated before. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

    • @foxize6913
      @foxize6913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Once a cheater, always a cheater", i'm sure s1mple cheated for his many top1s on hltv

    • @EZOVSKy
      @EZOVSKy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@foxize6913 Here cons has a new account for a year. Obviously, there is no point in putting everyone in one bag. However, people usually go back to something, just like with an addiction. And I will also add that cons changed his account during his career.

    • @Vladd.7
      @Vladd.7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@foxize6913 bro what u waffling bout

    • @SleepyCS2
      @SleepyCS2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      s1mple received an ESL ban for cheating in 1.6, you can just google it lol@@Vladd.7
      ur the one waffling

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      s1mple was also banned for cheating and then ban evading, that's why he couldn't play few of the majors in 2014/15

  • @davidchardar835
    @davidchardar835 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I think my favorite part of this video is the narrator being like "and now he's doing X because, yeah, why not?" "There could be a CT here there and there but why clear that?", cracks me up every time

  • @Xenolicz
    @Xenolicz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Its to most typical cheating case. Absolutely terrible movement,weird aim,cant preaim at all,misses easy kills. The only people defending him are cheaters as well. Trust me,there is a reason why all the pro players say he's 100% cheating and not only the community. If a pro player with over 15k hours calls someone a blatant cheater,then he's blatantly cheating. Good job on EPL for banning this guy,should go to jail and get fined.

    • @ghosy998
      @ghosy998 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      " If a pro player with over 15k hours calls someone a blatant cheater,then he's blatantly cheating"... you mean how they called ropz, zywoo, flusha and many many more a cheater?

    • @trapstoner
      @trapstoner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ghosy998 pro players are humans too and humans make mistakes, but still if a pro players with over 15k some 20k hours say someone is cheating they are 90% more likely to be right than if anyone else says someone is cheating

  • @jotim7191
    @jotim7191 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Can you notice how he is always going back and forward all the time? Instead of committing to a push?
    This must be because he knows he will lose the fights, and need to kill them off guard, he is always trying to find this good timing with his wallhacks. Insane... Hope he will get banned for life.

  • @shockat5070
    @shockat5070 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:06 look how he turns around as soon they make contact in donut, if he checked main then why would he not turn around and go back?

  • @andriishumilin
    @andriishumilin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hes really obv hacker. Movement patters on outside on nuke is different every situation depends on enemy positionint w/o info. So for me its so obv. Cuz strong players knows what to check step by step. Not like this shit. Hes movement sucks a lot:)
    Good work, author !

  • @dooorrr
    @dooorrr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if the bump of rewinding at 4:57 is because of the facebook sound :P

  • @catalystdrums123
    @catalystdrums123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't watch this match, but isn't there usual an admin behind the players that can see their screens? Is there some way of toggling the radar super quickly or something?

    • @karlkarlsson9126
      @karlkarlsson9126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They are playing from home I believe

  • @demian1173
    @demian1173 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How could someone apply for this demo analist job for an org like this?

  • @cancelik
    @cancelik 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Here there is no enough evidence to charge someone as wallhacking.

    • @MadazzaMusik
      @MadazzaMusik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Says a cheat

    • @cancelik
      @cancelik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what do you mean?@@MadazzaMusik

    • @trapstoner
      @trapstoner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      for you, sure there isn't, but for pro cs players the evidence is everywhere

    • @cancelik
      @cancelik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I m 39 years old and have played competitive cs at the highest level for 15 years. When I call someone legit, he/she is legit. (I m not estonian).@@trapstoner

  • @Aaaareyoureadyyy
    @Aaaareyoureadyyy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Honestly this must have been the most blatant Waller I've seen in a while.

    • @mrsmiley4842
      @mrsmiley4842 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This isn't blatant at all ...

    • @nbg123097
      @nbg123097 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mrsmiley4842 please tell me how it isn't

    • @skultikofficial
      @skultikofficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@nbg123097 do u even know what blatant means? blatant wallhacker would be someone who looks at players through smokes, wallks, wallbangs etc. im not saying he is not cheating, its just not blatant without good cs knowledge

    • @onzi7706
      @onzi7706 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@skultikofficial Because its not wallhack,its radar

    • @A3r0XxLol
      @A3r0XxLol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because it isnt. tired of silver bots calling cheats when they see a clip. you know nothing. @@nbg123097

  • @dylanc9173
    @dylanc9173 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    8:03 most blatant moment ever, nobody ever peeks out of hell window like that 😂

    • @nitbot
      @nitbot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That window peek removed all doubts I had. As you said, nobody peeks that window like that. This Cons dude just happens to know exactly where and when to peek

    • @franciskid_
      @franciskid_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nitbot And this is called confirmation bias, didn't it ever occur to you that Chr1zN might be running and he heard him ?

    • @siimsakib
      @siimsakib 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if watch the demo you can hear the T making steps there.

    • @geronimojones2
      @geronimojones2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can see him running. Maybe conss heard him

    • @serveri69
      @serveri69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@franciskid_ Yes ofc he heard him but look how he is peeking him... He is 100% sure that there is only that guy there and no one else in anyhere else outside :D Cmon man

  • @jugose4884
    @jugose4884 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    whos the guy that cry in this demos? nothings happening, give me your pov and i can do same on your movements

  • @ankarl6492
    @ankarl6492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    anyone has the a clip/video where olofmeister was calling him sus?

    • @PappSajtCSGO
      @PappSajtCSGO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/TTWdaKEqHgc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RR5kZ2B7HA0NV9kt

  • @nairobi5169
    @nairobi5169 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    he has a movement like he is playing on controller and this crosshair placement damn 😂😂

  • @tege15
    @tege15 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Im not a good player, im decent at best. But his movement and crosshair placement looks really weird. Also he pulls his knife out in weird situations

    • @corv1340
      @corv1340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, I have like 2k hours only and the way he shoots or clears site looks like mine play - like a bot.

  • @lurka1337
    @lurka1337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yeah, i see some extremely weird movement that only makes sense if he has additional information, i also see very inexperienced player, has no idea about normal meeting points for either side he just pushs past where sane pro would push. exculing maybe art and fer ect in their prime

  • @AthosRac
    @AthosRac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This as evidence is very weak.

  • @n1ghtmare450
    @n1ghtmare450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:27 panicked cause he saw the cts pushing then missed the flash

  • @walle7284
    @walle7284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is the coach of MOUZ NXT (the opposite team coaches) doing the breakdown while he's definietly bias

  • @jcd1412
    @jcd1412 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    imagine how many closet cheaters there are like that in CS

    • @xdognatex9897
      @xdognatex9897 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Tons. More than anyone wants to admit.

    • @danlegend8486
      @danlegend8486 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Val too, except they protect them by having replay off.

  • @44r0n-9
    @44r0n-9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Cheating or not, this guy just seems to be terrible in general...

  • @realstranden1873
    @realstranden1873 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    atleast do a nonbiased review, not by the opposing coach

  • @KristapsJankovskis
    @KristapsJankovskis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    if there are cheaters here then u can already imagine how many are in MMs... -.-

  • @skull88
    @skull88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    This is what so many people in the scene appreciate and are hoping to see more of. Manual expert review with pro player advice. This is sadly unlikely to be the only case of a multi-K hours player doing this in tier 2+ scene, but let's hope this discourages many from doing this in the future. Do you send all of this info to other TOs and organizers like Faceit or even Valve or they have to do their own reviews on this player? Thank you kindly so much for doing this and being transparent in a way you likely will get criticism for too.

    • @ahuzla
      @ahuzla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      it is a very unprofessional review. im sad you do not notice it. first its done by the coach of the team that lost, nit-picked the only rounds where it is possible to place hackusations (not a single round where cons misplayed), terrible analysis of the rounds that were shown, and so on.

    • @Longform1337
      @Longform1337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ahuzlaits almost as if the cheater can turn off his cheats at will, shocking I know

    • @prusli9386
      @prusli9386 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ahuzla This is actually very professional if you understand the game or the cheating scene.

  • @ziggle5000
    @ziggle5000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having the oppositions coach provide this commentary is such a hilariously stupid decision

  • @guitarFAIL
    @guitarFAIL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really glad you did this, thanks.

  • @reboot1337
    @reboot1337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what kind of AC they use in EPL still ESEA or faceit AC? You should pick random ass faceit game as well and check how he playing there

  • @mariushernes606
    @mariushernes606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its quite weird not to have it specified anywhere that the guy commentating is the coach for the team they played against.
    That is such an amateurish conflict to ever be taken seriously.
    Comeon, do better.

  • @Spankerdig1
    @Spankerdig1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lol thats not proof of anything... wtf u talking about. With your logic everyone should be a cheater when they have good timing.

  • @WiggyRS
    @WiggyRS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:56 you got me there, thought i got a notification 😂

  • @Anarchy1993
    @Anarchy1993 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nuke secret panic flash into the wall was obvious. He sees them coming. Also movement and aim is trash for this level.

  • @HemaShehab
    @HemaShehab 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    when he pushing the a planting player in nuke < he want to falsh he cancel the flash and he just +w wtf!!!!!!! how did you know he is alone and pr peeking from heaven doood!!!!!!!

  • @oreldmCS2
    @oreldmCS2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine banning this but then flusha flicks didn't get banned.

  • @mariano9284
    @mariano9284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    imagine he was not a bad player

    • @gots0359
      @gots0359 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      u cant be a good player with cheats, otherwise you wouldn't have cheats.

    • @mariano9284
      @mariano9284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gots0359I also love philosophy but its practical use is sometimes forced

    • @ProNinjaHax
      @ProNinjaHax 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he means movement, and knowledge of game. if the guy was even DECENT at the game, it would be harder to notice. but since Conns moves like a bot, aims like a silver, then it's more obvious. Yes, all cheaters suck, but it's not what mariano meant@@gots0359

  • @123roinito
    @123roinito 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    i was admin for a top cs1.6 server for 7years and detecting true cheaters was exciting (not the ones obvious), i spent many hours for but it was clearly my best exp as admin

    • @StrasznySaTaN666
      @StrasznySaTaN666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you would ban this guy from the video? Becouse i also know a lot about the game and watched thousands of demos and i could never tell if hes cheating

    • @Longform1337
      @Longform1337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@StrasznySaTaN666then youre just ass at telling whos cheating or not bro

    • @vshadow1115
      @vshadow1115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@StrasznySaTaN666 I don't mean to be mean but I find that hard to believe. Anybody with a decent grasp of high-level CS can easily tell this guy is cheating.

    • @serveri69
      @serveri69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StrasznySaTaN666 So then you are lying about knowing a lot about the game.

    • @StrasznySaTaN666
      @StrasznySaTaN666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@serveri69 ok listen here you bunch of flexing scrubs. Im a busy man so i didnt watch the whole video. I have put about 10k hours total of my life into this game in different forms. Im also a programmer so in the past i used to reverse engineer cs games as a hobby and published many complex cheats on a well known game hacking forum for scrubs like you to use. I dont do none of that anymore. I have played the new game for some time but i got bored and i dont care about nothing you talk about. The comment i made was a mistake, your commitment to the matter is a mistake, you spend too much time on your stupid computer games you "ACTUALLY" nerds who know everything better. Adjust your glasses and go do something productive with your life and stop responding to me becouse i dont care about the topic or your opinions on any subject. Bye.

  • @RikitoG
    @RikitoG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So you took guy who was coaching the other team and made him analyze the demo? xD There's so many times that's just normal behaviour and he acts like it never happens, oh my god he dumped util on smoke wall (where dump meant he throws 2 grenades). Or the other like aiming at the right not at the left because good players would, well he's like below 1.0 rating no shit he's not good

  • @paakjis
    @paakjis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:05 , this does not look like a cheater to me. Without xray it did look like the ct went in the smoke, and he followed his movement as it looked like. But with xray you can see that the ct did not go in the smoke, and he missed his spray.

  • @Askemanden
    @Askemanden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Det hedder “pre aim” ikke “pre fire”

  • @lukemizumoto8950
    @lukemizumoto8950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he just had a read

  • @justjustjustjust2226
    @justjustjustjust2226 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    bro is 0.88kd with hacks, what a chad

    • @alexandreza
      @alexandreza 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      is not about KD... win or lose!

  • @ProNinjaHax
    @ProNinjaHax 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally posted on HLTV. Can't believe there are braindead bots who are doubting the validity of this ban. Kid wasn't autohopping and blatant aimbotting so they think that's the only way or something? It's called closet/legit cheating. And Conns was pretty bad at it. Moves like a Gold Nova, Crosshair placement is really bad, and half clears corners when he knows there's no one there. Perfectly timing pushes. Trying to act surprised on certain plays, like when he pulled his knife out in ancient when they were behind him. It's all an act, and they love doing it. They need to make mistakes so they have the benefit of the doubt. I played with a closet cheater before, and I know all of their tricks.

  • @sedo7
    @sedo7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    16:46 wtf is this bs? t side executing smoke and mollies and you blaming him for "yeah noone is A" this video is literally bullshit, only accusing for timings but never mentioning his deaths, this guy need to be checked like ropz, you cannot ban a guy with a video only contains, "you can't pick like that" "this is not a common holding angle" etc. literally bullshit

  • @aditomasik5933
    @aditomasik5933 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:20 just curious, wasn't chr1zn running and was it close enough for cons to just hear it?
    it seems like he is cheating but that one clip just bothers me a bit

    • @SiimLees
      @SiimLees 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he heard him, x-ray shows how chr1zn was running

    • @karlkarlsson9126
      @karlkarlsson9126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too far to be heard.

    • @skultikofficial
      @skultikofficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@karlkarlsson9126 its not

    • @serveri69
      @serveri69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ofc he heard him but look how he goes and kills him, he doesnt check anything else, like there cant be anyone else outside beisides that 1 guy he heard :D

  • @bialyjj
    @bialyjj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    without cheats this guy would reach 2k elo on faceit xddd

    • @Dortchskii
      @Dortchskii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this is definitely the type to be 1200 elo with 800 matches without cheats. and that's being generous

  • @poohcares
    @poohcares 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of ppl actually using the flusha card but flusha was sus because he was so good at the time. This guy(as mentioned by olof) played and moved like trash but basically knew and felt everything like a god.

  • @carmalone91
    @carmalone91 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    his movement doesn't fit a pro player. Go doesn't have to be crazy like m0nesy or something but he looks totally amateur missing the nades, bumping into walls (not aware of the map) etc. He is 100% wh or radar hack.

  • @lw8882
    @lw8882 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine having worse movement than a faceit lvl 3 and thinking you won't get caught cheating in the EPL.
    The EGO.

  • @TenEikk
    @TenEikk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These kind of cheaters that ' hide' their cheats is the worst version for fps gaming

  • @Thes4LT
    @Thes4LT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last few clips are extremely obvious -- especially when he keeps prevaricating on whether to leave A or not, and just so happens to get a kill on one guy pushing when he looks back. But throughout these clips he keeps peeking with nades, quickswitching when he knows he's safe, and pre-aiming players he has no information on. It's extremely obvious he's cheating.

  • @vekaras2667
    @vekaras2667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who is doing the analysis ?

    • @furious5508
      @furious5508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      coach of the losing team

    • @vekaras2667
      @vekaras2667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@furious5508 I hope that his abilities to analyze are better than what he showed here. This evidence is not enough IMO

    • @negrutmc49
      @negrutmc49 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good thing is that you’re not analyzing these games for your living!

    • @lucalive1302
      @lucalive1302 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some random noob who clearly dont know how to play this game.

  • @onzi7706
    @onzi7706 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hes crosshair movement and movement is fct lvl 7 like , but his gamesense is god like )))

    • @bobemihai
      @bobemihai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Don't roast us lvl 7s like that, he's way worse imo :D

  • @Fabbbz
    @Fabbbz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem is this isn’t the only one. This game has been ruined by these people.

  • @ToodelsALX
    @ToodelsALX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    At least he is not hiding it. Good Job! But Noobs would say, that he is not cheating..

    • @henriparn9221
      @henriparn9221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll take that argument, what was beyond reasonable doubt here for you?

  • @mattyeye8176
    @mattyeye8176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only 2 clips on Ancient shown and the nuke fighting to get OT was really sus imo. Most of the clips can be dumb luck but pushing/holding A with a deagle on ancient then prefiring the guy donut with a galil when you had 0 info on both plays. On nuke when he was awping and they were down 4 rounds til OT he started to be a little more obvious to help the team it seems get to OT. It holds things for 0 reason and has movement to perfectly hide himself from enemies before he peeks them (red outsid when he peeks twinkie is a great example). No one does these things unless you are already aware of enemies.

  • @philipeanime5246
    @philipeanime5246 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tantos xiter no cs e nada muda. Ontem, Martinez da 9Z estava muito estranho contra a
    MIBR no primeiro confronto do closed IEM China.

    • @ManuPela
      @ManuPela 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      llora brazuca JAJAJAA

  • @rolnutzz
    @rolnutzz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact he pulls his knife out to “walk faster” just tells me this dude has no clue what he’s doing and is relying on his radar hack.

    • @zilliq
      @zilliq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why do you put "walk faster" in quotes ? it actually makes you walk faster

  • @zilliq
    @zilliq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anybody defending him explain why he peeks vents with a molotov in hand at 6:25 ? It was a nice peek actually, just forgot to equip his weapon. Makes no sense

    • @henriparn9221
      @henriparn9221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I done that quite a bit, its not a good thing to do but based on game sense if you think it's really unlikely someone is there.

    • @serveri69
      @serveri69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@henriparn9221 Well in this case it was very likely that someone would be there since they knew that Ts went secret.

    • @henriparn9221
      @henriparn9221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@serveri69 It's not uncommon to not check vent because mostly it's the first corner or the double door stairs which is why the molly as well.

    • @serveri69
      @serveri69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@henriparn9221 Wtf? It is very uncommon if you are playing in any decent level, those 2 angles are very common to hold especially in situation like this when CT:s know that they are in secret.

    • @henriparn9221
      @henriparn9221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@serveri69 I mean I watched liquid vs astralis match on nuke and noticed how the vent was constantly overlooked and that's as pro level as you can go. And I myself also overlook off angles as well if enemy hasn't shown use of them.

  • @sheact6363
    @sheact6363 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the other teammates should be banned too Chill he was so sus

  • @mcskillet7106
    @mcskillet7106 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, video. Good to know his case was dealt with a proper investigation.

  • @dieteregal139
    @dieteregal139 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very thin evidence if you ask me.

  • @HienNguyen-cs1md
    @HienNguyen-cs1md 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first few plays in Ancient and literally anyone would be certain that he's cheating. He can't even be considered a semi pro. Plays like a normal 15k Premiere cheater

  • @Nelex5000
    @Nelex5000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this legit gotta be the most boring nothingburger i have ever seen in a while

  • @AidosTheMan
    @AidosTheMan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny how my bets won't be refunded even so

    • @vshadow1115
      @vshadow1115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where are you betting? This guy has been flagged by a lot sites for a while now.

  • @villekoskela9073
    @villekoskela9073 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He is just a bot and it makes it look like he cheats

  • @KoZa89
    @KoZa89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah a lot of clips are sus.
    but i think he only has radarhack or something, because some kills in smoke could be easily done because the enemies shot? or? maybe to dumb to cheat.

  • @CandiceMurphy-zc4eu
    @CandiceMurphy-zc4eu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    delightful contents, I am here friend

  • @MrNestwo
    @MrNestwo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All life played cs 1.6- cs go - cs2. And he is cheating. No way he looks through wall , waits right time, pushes randomly exact time as said ans crouches next to wall. Typical cheater movement. Tries to play it off😂😂😂🎉

    • @NO_obs
      @NO_obs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      have you watched many demos with xray on? majority of demos look sussy with xray tbh

  • @Alucard.x123
    @Alucard.x123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if you guys are wrong?

  • @lx6381
    @lx6381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    overall suspicious but at 8:23 he could have heart him running.

    • @toothlessthefc4394
      @toothlessthefc4394 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      thats a weird place to flick over and check. especially that fast and accurate cause this guys crosshair placement is DOGWATER

    • @itstoogooditswaytoogood3211
      @itstoogooditswaytoogood3211 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yes but that's not the point of this video. there's no single play from this that you can say 100% he's cheating, he would never have been banned if it was just that play, rather it's everything in this video considered at once.

    • @toothlessthefc4394
      @toothlessthefc4394 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he has another account that is game banned already for cheating. and this video shows quite well that he is cheating@@itstoogooditswaytoogood3211

    • @stefancristian6128
      @stefancristian6128 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if you dont think its obvious hes cheating after these clips, means you never played competitive team cs in your life@@itstoogooditswaytoogood3211

    • @Neozitu
      @Neozitu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't notice that, you right, if he was close enough to hear the T running, then this play is legit (but he didn't clear any spots before going wide open to the right to kill that guy... sus...). Also at 1:50 his teammate hears the T running, that's why he runs holding knife, nothing sus in this play for me.
      But he's cheating! There is no way to open with awp outside nuke like he did aiming T spawn. And the pushes at A on ancient was veeeeeeeeery sus. The movement and aiming was super weird and all clips shows that he seems like level 7 faceit or lower, so wtf......

  • @noobgonebad9860
    @noobgonebad9860 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk, not much evidence. He could be good at faking, but if he really had xray, why waste time looking at the wrong place, shoot wrong place. I have seen far far crazier clips

  • @whtevr
    @whtevr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing really sus on Nuke

  • @JJ_196
    @JJ_196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    low tier EPL is new version of CCT, matchfixing and cheating (clown emoji)

  • @hades_xo
    @hades_xo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no words needed after 2:10 - 3:00

  • @user-pv8uv1zf6g
    @user-pv8uv1zf6g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Da mu se ruke polome da ne moze nikad vise da igra ni jednu igricu. Ty

  • @dmitrykim3096
    @dmitrykim3096 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These cheaters ate so stupid

  • @martinhansen6802
    @martinhansen6802 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    oh Consss you poor bastard..

  • @anatoliyfederer6379
    @anatoliyfederer6379 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need to confess, that flusha is also an cheater, who cheated a lot in the pro tournament but did it very well. That's not a talent..

  • @Flawsumxx
    @Flawsumxx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    not one sign of cheating in this video. why are bots reviewing demos as if they know what is happening?

    • @fredriksalomonsson662
      @fredriksalomonsson662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Agreed. And then there's the fact that the one "analyzing" the demo has an incentive to reach a certain conclusion. They can't just look at what the player does in isolation. They're in large part ignoring: Audible footsteps, teammates' information (including where enemies are NOT), tendencies he might have spotted, him taking chances because he plays a better team and knows that just playing a standard game isn't gonna be enough.

    • @jaykera
      @jaykera 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fredriksalomonsson662 the ancient ones were obvious, he also has a lack of technical skill and a curious tendency to clearly not be paying attention unless someone is nearby. He literally never clears corners or acts as a player should at times where he doesn’t have information.

    • @Flawsumxx
      @Flawsumxx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jaykera if you watch the video again and pretend sound is a thing you should understand that he has lots more information than is being claimed by this clown who is reviewing the demo. When the x-ray get highlighted it means they make sounds

    • @token7578
      @token7578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wdym not one sign of cheating? He's doing multiple timings that pros don't take (at least not as often as he does), and has perfect pre-aiming on angles that no one pre aims. The clearing of a-site on ancient is sloppy and no pro player clears like that even if they know enemies probably aren't there. Besides, sound from the game is on in the video and you can see if people are sprinting when they play the clips with x-ray to know if he could've known they were there.

    • @token7578
      @token7578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fredriksalomonsson662 Explain 4:18 for me then. This is second round t-side he couldn't have spotted tendencies yet. He doesn't have any info on the a-site player/players. Clears very sloppy like he knows no one isn't there. No footsteps is normal for ct-side so he doesn't have info either. Besides he was taking too many chances throughout the game. I get that sometimes you gotta take chances sometimes and that pros do that sometimes, but he does it way too often it's suspicious.

  • @KiwiMoors1
    @KiwiMoors1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy is using a radar. He's definitely not got an aimbot, and if he's got walls, he is awful.

  • @kristjankiidron634
    @kristjankiidron634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol imagine banning someone when have no proof of cheats.

  • @reggre1096
    @reggre1096 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    if u have a brain then u can see that he has radar hack for sure

  • @cerea1killer55
    @cerea1killer55 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm not saying that he's cheating or he isn't, but using the opponents coach's expertise as grounds to ban consss instead of a non-biased, independent person raises so many red flags.

  • @taurts1126
    @taurts1126 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WELL WELL WELL TOBIZ