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Curating My Vinyl Record Collection - Downsizing Part 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Curating my vinyl record collection had been on my radar months ago. I made a few videos about downsizing and curating my vinyl record collection last year and several people have asked how it is going. I didn't get all that far, but was able to cull about 300 records out of 2,000 that I just wouldn't likely play again. Space is at a premium, especially with my buying habits, and the old "one record in, one record out" idea wasn't working in my favor. Those 300 are still waiting for their ride to the charity shop 6 months later.
In this video, i show a bit of what's happening on the other end. I've been picking records at random, cleaning and playing them, and if they meet my requirements for a permanent home, they are re-sleeved and put on new shelving. This has been a great way to revisit some favorites, return to some new arrivals, and spend more time enjoying music. In this fairly lengthy video, you can see a small portion of what has been chosen thus far. I set a chapter stop for each box full if you don't want to see the whole video at once. Hope you enjoy it!
00:00 Introduction
01:59 On The Shelf
07:30 Second Batch
13:22 Third Batch
17:14 Fourth Batch
20:54 Fifth Batch
28:00 Conclusion
Sleeves used in the new collection are Vinyl Storage Solutions Dual Pocket Sleeves as well as their 3mil inner sleeves. Full review of the VSS line of record sleeves coming up soon.
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I love your varied and eclectic taste in music! Always enjoy your videos. I’ve learned so much from you about vinyl. Thanks so much!
Hi Chris! I'm glad you enjoyed this peek into my collection. It just skims the surface, with mostly thinks I've reviewed that I loved, some great sounding audiophile discs important jazz and classical. I guess it is a bit eclectic! If this one does well I'll do another update as I get further along in my project!
Always appreciate your great tips. Thank you. I think most record collectors have a similar aversion to letting go. You never know when the time will come when you just have to listen to a particular record. My approach began and ended with removing the unlistenable/damaged records (after wet vac and ultrasound cleaning of course).
That seems a good line to draw. I'm definitely getting those out, but will probably have to go beyond that as well. Let's see what I can do this month and I'll post an update! Thanks for your comment, Jody!
We just relocated to eastern Tennessee... I'll be doing the same when we get settled* when ever that is!!)..Keep on keeping on!-JG
Thank you for watching! For me it's easier selecting what's going to stay until I reach a limit which for now is 2,000. Getting the old stuff out of the house is harder!
Well, Scott so much for my good intentions, ha! I’d sorted out just 3 records I thought could go back to a charity shop one day soon. However this morning I visited one I’d not been in for a couple of weeks and yes, you guessed it, came back with another 11, all priced at £1 individually. Trouble is they were too nice to resist 😄.
Lol, for that price why resist! I wish we had those kind of finds around here anymore. Maybe I better get out and scour the thrifts one day.
@@ThePressingMatters They are all in really good condition but just needed a clean. As I walked up to them the first two were Villa-Lobos on HMV (ALP 1603) and then Erik Satie (EMI/HMV ASD 2389) neither of which composers I had in my collection. There were more HMV ones, a few Decca ones and a couple of nice but budget label ones. Nothing outstanding in value but still, good additions to my classical collection.
@@robertmorgan9205 great finds!, I would have grabbed those in a heartbeat!
Happy Sunday Scott. You have some killer stuff in your collection. Variety imo is important in record collecting. The only thing I haven’t yet focused on is classical music. At this point I am not paring down my collection. It is ever evolving. Sell off some of your records, get whatever you can get and don’t look back.
Hi Brian! Good advice! I'm actually in the garage today, inspired by the video and assembling more boxes to go out! Glad you caught this video.
Awesome video, my friend! I'll glady take that Mofi Sinatra At The Sands off your hands if you downsize any further ;)
Ok your first in the list, Cameron!
Really nice collection! Great that you were able to get those early Classic, DCC , MoFi, ORG & MMJ titles. I wish I knew about them at the time.
Thanks for your comment! I was fortunate that I was into it at the time. I was able to get all those at list prices. I could never assemble that today.
❤❤❤ amazing
Glad you enjoyed this video. It's been fun doing this "curating" project and finally having a more tailored collection of what I'll truly listen to again and again. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Lots of killer records there Scott. I want a good pressing of Getz/Gilberto and Steely Dan Aja. I've got Gaucho on vinyl but it's not the best pressing but it's not bad. I love the record though. I'm also getting into Duke Ellington been listening to some of his big band work over the past week.
You can't do too much better than the Acoustic Sounds Series 33, unless you get the 45. It's great for Getz Gilberto. The 33 is very reasonably priced. For Aja, some swear by original AB matrix pressings, but I want my Aja super clean and snapped up the Cisco when it came out. I'm definitely in for Aja and Gaucho on UHQR. I have a Robert Ludwig mastered Original US Of Gaucho that is mighty fine. You could probably find a clean original if that. Ellington is a joy to explore. I've never been disappointed with any I've bought. The Ellington at Newport was just repressed by MOFI.
Great looking collection there! I’ve tried to organize by genre but makes for a tough time to get a hold of what I’m looking for quickly! I’ve gone back to alphabetical 😂! Great video Scott! Happy Easter!
I do it by genre, then artist and then by release order. With classical I do it by label and catalogue number. This first few batches are obviously unorganized. It will be a long but rewarding process. I am enjoying hearing these records once again, cleaned and on my new set up!
Your collection is beautiful - I have a soft spot for Zamfir. So many great records!!! You’ve curated a great selection of discs. I need to do a purge but my records aren’t worth much. I’d love to be at the thrift store when you drop off your records!!!!
I think I might do a virtual garage sale online. Makes sense because so many have had similar comments, so we could have fun and blow the garage sale stuff out for thrift store prices.
@@ThePressingMatters That would be fun! Do it!!!
Do you keep your hype stickers? Enjoy your videos. You got me into some classical.
Yes I have them all in a box, trying to figure out how to include them. One friend puts them on the new inner sleeve so it's easier when you have multiple pressings to identify.
OOH! I would *LOVE* to hear that Petrushka on the Athena label Scott! Please 'ear tag' that one for next time we get together. Thanks!
I'll bring it next time!
@@ThePressingMatters Perfect! Great collection by the way!
My take on downsizing, be it LPs or clothes, or watches: If you are not going to actually play a record (or wear something) then pass it on. I now only have about 300 records, but I play most of them.
This is so true, and I'm very good about it in other aspects - clothes etc. Records have always been a bit harder for me, but I am making strides. I had two garage sales where I sold off a lot of records that I wasn't going to listen to, then I attempted to get rid of doubles and triple copies bu choosing the best one to keep. Now I have a master list of what I truly want to have in my collection and add a title from the list of it comes out in a high quality mastering. The cleaning and listening I did to come to this selection shown in the video is a great way for me to hear these again on updated system and make a determination. Should it stay or should it go. 300 is probably plenty, but I have enough space for 2,000 and that's my goal. If I can pare it down to that I'll have gotten rid of about the same amount. 4,000 is just ridiculous for me - even if I wanted to I couldn't listen to all of them. So a well thought out selection of the best available pressings is how I'm attempting this. I'll keep you updated!
These are clearly keepers. Except that you only need one reissue of the Getz/Gilberto. 😉 Looking forward to see how you handle the more complicated purging decisions. To start with I would sort all the records to get an overview. Or do you have the entire collection on Discogs?
Yes the keepers are easy! I love seeing my permanent collection choices all cleaned up and resleeved on their own shelf! Next video I'll talle some more in the garage. Always good for a few laughs. At that time I'd pick up just about anything!
Wonderful collection (or at least a partial glimpse into it). There are a few there that I have in my collection, though not necessarily the same pressings. I've already got three copies of Meddle (plus a couple more on CD) but then with Pink Floyd it's always been a case of having to get more of them rather than reduce my collection.
Thanks Robert,
It was fun doing this video, and I'll show more and more as the project progresses. You reminded me I must put my Japanese Odeon pressing of Meddle on there. It's better than the MOFI.
@@ThePressingMatters Mine are my UK version I bought back around 1974 , a US pressing from 1971 and, of all things, a Greek pressing from the early 80's. I might have to give that Greek one another listen right now :)
@@robertmorgan9205 Sometimes I think it's their best album.
@@ThePressingMatters It was the first Floyd album I ever listened to when I borrowed it from a schoolfriend back then so it always has that memory attached to it for me. I love the album, even the ones that some other Floyd fans tend to pass over, namely San Tropez and Seamus but still Dark Side Of The Moon is still my number one. Speaking of which, have you listened to the recent releases of Live At Wembley 74? I already have it in the Immersion box set but it's nice to own it as a standalone release too. Did I see a copy of the 2003 release of Dark Side in one of your videos? If so had you considered doing a video on that and perhaps comparing it to any other version you may have?
@@robertmorgan9205 I have many versions of DSOTM, and I should do a shootout but I don't have a UK so not sure if it's worth it
I have MFSL, 2nd Japanese, 30th, and last one from the reissue campaign.
Really fun. You've got some great stuff here. Don't know that Crumb - time to investigate. That Nonesuch 20th century series is excellent. Question: I really like those record boxes. Where can I get them?
Thanks for watching the whole video, lol, I know it's long. That Crunb LP and it's sister record were part of that series, and you know how good they are. This was on the TAS list but they are not that hard to find. Well worth seeking out that one, Percussion Music, Ancient Voices of Children.. if you like percussion you'll love George Crumb.
The boxes in the video are one of the best investments I made for my collection. They are from Bags Unlimited and they are called Ultrabox. They are corrugated plastic, acid free material and brilliantly constructed. They have black lids. They store about 60 single LPs and are the perfect weight once loaded. Just right to carry. The handles are cut outs. I've had my original set for a decade and still use them! They are essential to move a collection. They can be stacked up to three high with no issues. They are a bit pricy but you'll have them forever. I should do a video on them.
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@@ThePressingMatters You absolutely should do a video about them! Like all avid record collectors I never have enough space, and have records currently in rotation stacked on the floor, and they are a pain to move and keep clear of dust. This is a really elegant solution, better than other record "crates", so I will be purchasing forthwith. I have quite a few of that Nonesuch contemporary series, but did not know this one. They are excellently recorded, with the Aubort-Nickrenz team, and I see them in the bins for a dollar or two all the time.
@@musiconrecord6724 I will do that! I can say in 5 different moves, if the records were packed and moved in these, there was absolutely no damage, not even a corner dent. I cringe when I see people using haul cardboard book boxes. No way! Do it right. They do look very elegant in the listening room too! It's kind of nice to flip through rather than stare at spines trying to figure what to play next. Someday I'm going to design a browser bin to top a kallax 2x4 on its side. I don't know why ikea hasn't tried it lol. They'd sell a ton of them.
One Nonesuch to look for is Charles Wuorinen Chamber Concerto and Ringing Changes for Percussion Ensemble H-71263. Yes The Aubort/Nickrenz team was awesome. They have great stuff on other labels too, including some of those Vox Boxes. I'll cover those at some point too!
If you sold some of those records the proceeds would fund a Lyra Delos (cartridge) which sounds very good
I do have some records to sell, besides the ones in "the vault"
that could bring in some cash for upgrades. Also have the Odyssey amp and Audio Research preamp that are out of the system now that I'm considering selling. I imagine I'll be getting a replacement of offered an upgrade on the Hana, plus I am really enjoying the AT as well. I think my next upgrade should be speakers.
I'll have to see if I can hear the Lyra Delos somewhere. I've never heard one of their cartridges and I've heard so many good things about them. I'm going to check the dealers in the area and see.
I really enjoyed that. So many beautiful classical titles. I’m also glad to meet another Chet Atkins collector. I really want that Dead Can Dance that album is so beautiful. I have te 45 love is the thing and it is one of my most treasured titles. I just got that joe pass Django the other day. This was fun. Oh! Where did you get those storage boxes?
Those are the best storage boxes you can get and I highly recommend them. They are called Ultrabox from Bags Unlimited. They are made of corrugated plastic and completely fold together. They are so strong, have cut in handles, and separate lids. You can stack them three or four high. They have saved my collection through many moves.
Let me tell you, that reissue of Workshop is really nice! They also did Hi Fi in Focus. Modern Harmonic is an offshoot of Sundazed, but they seem to do much higher quality work. I believe these are pressed at RTI.
If they ever do a reprint of that Dead Can Dance album, grab it. It's just incredible. I got Spiritchaser too. MOFI seems to repressing some of their catalog and you may see it back at some point. Well worth picking up.
@@ThePressingMatters yes I have OG and sundazed of Chet also several of the ventures and some Jonny cash
There's no denying Sundazed and Modern Harmonic put out sime great overlooked titles. I need to take a look and see what they are up to these days.
Any news on your Hanna cartridge?
Yes, I had a discussion with a representative at Musical Surroundings about the Hana. After sending some pictures, they asked for me to send it to them for evaluation and inspection. So I imagine in a few weeks I'll know more.
I have a real dilemma; I could easily get rid of half my collection but these are not in high demand. These records are not junk and in great condition but no one wants big band and some of the great artists of the past. I gave away at least 200 to my niece's husband but he doesn't need any more. Sad to say; last winter I took a bunch of old classical out of their jackets and chucked them all and as many know, vinyl is not recyclable. I sell on discogs and I know what I can make a profit on and I can be selective on what I keep. Do you have any suggestions of places that don't mind taking records that are in good shape but not high demand? I appreciate all your videos!
Take a day and check around your area - hit up some thrift and vintage stores. If you see one that seems to feature vinyl. Hip or independent charity stores may be your best bet. Donate and get a deduction on taxes. Of course it has to be a charity for that. I had se real garage sales, that if advertised well, attract a lot of people and you never know what they might buy. The classical is a hard sell, opera even harder. Price it at a buck and it should move. If the local stores hear about your sale they will probably come as well. eBay resellers show up too and you might be able to do a bulk deal. But if making money is not a priority, donate to a good charity.
Heh, just when I am totally convinced that you only like Classical and such, you pull out Bridge of Sighs and say it is one of your favourites! 😲 How about that! I have the 1st UK pressings of his first 4 albums I think. The sound quality is excellent. And YES! BoS is just about one of *THE* best albums ever. Being a guitar player and composer myself (using both terms VERY loosely) Robin Trower is indeed one of my very favourite guitar players, probably the best of that Hendrix/Blues style (next to Hendrix of course) With Frank Zappa, Buckethead, & Adrian Belew being the others.
I actually traded a DCC Aqualung, which I honestly never cared for and thought it sounded rather lifeless, for a very nice, mint MFSL of Into the Labyrinth which does indeed sound bloody amazing! For that trade, I also got the UK R.A.Y.E.S pressing of Rush's Permanent Waves which sounds fantastic, and also a nice, clean 1st US pressing of Cannonball Adderley's Mercy, Mercy, Mercy. Not a bad trade for an album that I didn't like (I *DO* very much like the sound of the MFSL pressing of Aqualung though, much more vibrant and lively!) Oh, and I frigg'n *LOVE* Laurie Anderson's Mr. Heartbreak!👍 I saw that tour and it seriously blew my mind! Out of my over 2500 vinyl albums and even my over 8000 FLAC albums, I would say that Mr. Heartbreak would easily be in my personal top 20 all time best albums! I have a 1st US Promo, I just listened to it for the first time in years the other day, and yeah, the sound quality was stunning!
Ha, you would never know it from my channel, but I was and always will be a hard rock fan! But I will be covering more classic rock in the future. I saw all the classic rock bands with a few exceptions and I know these records inside out. We all loved Bridge of Sighs. For Earth Below too! I first heard that under the influence of some psychedelic and it's always been a favorite of mine. Isn't Bridge of Sighs the perfect candidate for a nice well done reissue! Labyrinth blew me away when I first heard it via the MOFI. So glad I got that. Gladiator has some good sounds too in a similar vein. I used to have all the Rush albums and saw them on 2112 and Hemispheres tours. That was a trip. Trying to get my favorites from them again.
Laurie Anderson has been a favorite since I first saw her at Boston's Institute of Contemporary Art with an audience of about 100 people! She was just about to tour with the first album on Warner. Mister Heartbreak I saw live in the large venue, I think the Orpheus in Boston. That record was one of the first I played when I got my Basis turntable and I've been a fan of it ever since!
Let me ask you, how does the British pressing of Twice Removed From Yesterday sound. I only have a US blue label and while good it's not great. But then again the recording isn't on the same level as the next two. Any advice?
@@ThePressingMatters That's awesome that you got to see a lot of these bands Bro. I was just SO surprised because almost all I see on your channel is Classical and sometimes Jazz 😊 WOW! You got to see the 2112 tour, DAMN! 👍 Truly one of THE greatest albums of all time! Heh, well next time I start thinking that you are just a sleepy ol' stuffy Classical guy, I will try to remember this!
@@ThePressingMatters Ah, you got to see the Mr. Heartbreak tour too! Wasn't that a trip! They start by all this syncopated drumming playing and all the members come out in head to toe completely white hazzard suits and masks. Then, IIRC, their instruments all descend from the ceiling on wires to the stage. WOW! Till this day, still one of the most creative concerts/albums I've ever heard.
Interested to hear your thoughts on quality control throughout your years of collecting. Been collecting for about 2 years, and my tolerance for pressing flaws has improved a lot, but nonetheless it frustrates me a little. Most records I buy will have some flaws (e.g. a small scratch causing some ticks, dimples causing pops) and in the past I would return lots of records, but nowadays I accept most flaws as the nature of the beast and try not let it get to me. I only return records if something is majorly defective (e.g. no fill). However, sometimes when I buy a record which is a pristine pressing, super quiet vinyl, but then there is a mark tainting just one track, that’ll really frustrate me.
Are these sorts of flaws something that has plagued mainstream releases in the past, or do you think this is becoming more apparent in modern vinyl releases ?
A lot of people will say that you have to know your pressing plants, yet I’ve had issues with all of them.
People rave on about RTI and Pallas, but bash MPO and GZ, for example. In my experience, RTI has been the best, with the exception of one severely non-filled record, and GZ has been hit and miss, as has MPO, and Pallas has been in most cases really below average, leading to a couple returns.
Bear in mind, I’m referring to your standard priced record (around $50 AUD). All MOFI and AP records I’ve purchased (around $140 AUD) have been great, no issues there.
Keen to hear your thoughts on this.
Great channel btw, always providing interesting content.
I wanted to reply to both of the above comments. Quality control is a big issue for me. Sometimes I ask myself is it worth it. Digital solved so many of these problems. Yet I still put myself through the aggravation of getting less than perfect records and having to go through exchanges. I put up with it because when it's right, it's extraordinary. Most of my peak listening experiences have been with a vinyl record. Many of those happened recently too. I am super picky about vinyl. Anything with a noise that can't be removed by cleaning goes back. Once I'm satisfied with the copy it's in my permanent collection. This video is kind of reflective of that. Everything here passed my stringent standards. That why you see so few originals unless I bought them on release. I don't enjoy used vinyl usually. So I focus on the titles I want, research the best reissues, and get those. I will give up a bit of magic of an original for a clean, well pressed and mastered reissue. I generally have great luck with RTI, followed by generally great from QRP, and mostly good to great from Optimal and others. I've returned more Optimal than any other. That period when the Blue Note Classics were coming out with non fill was a bad spell for them. If it's a pricy UHQR or One Step, i make no exceptions - it has to be perfect.
Vinyl is a pain but I am more immersed in the music with it vs. digital, so I understand that going in. It's an imperfect medium, and the companies mentioned are trying their best to meet the mark. It's actually a great time to be into vinyl!
@@ThePressingMatters Awesome reply, I really appreciate hearing your thoughts. When it comes to the records I’ve kept but have had some flaws, I’ve found myself so immersed in enjoying the music that I’ll raise an eyebrow when I can hear those annoying ticks that I know are there, but then seem to forget about it straight after. Having a physical copy of a favourite record of mine is what means the most to me. I have a decent set up (Pro-Ject Debut Pro w MOFI UltraPhono Pre-Amp) which sounds great, but the experience of going to the record store and finding something awesome is more the appeal for me.
My recent example, Steve Hiett- Down on the Road by the Beach, reissue (FANTASTIC album and so worth checking out, I feel you would enjoy) is a silent record pressed by Record Industry, but one record has a mark causing about maybe 6 ticks on one track. Annoying, but I’ve lived with it. Sometimes I’ve returned a record over something small and gotten something worse. However, if a record is truly awful (e.g. Pink Floyd Animals 2018 remix was truly unlistenable) it will definitely go back. When I was returning every record with a flaw, it was getting to the point where I was frustrated with records more often than not and was looking out for the flaws rather than enjoying the music. So yes, whilst annoying that this shouldn’t happen, I’ve just accepted it as a limitation of the medium. It should be better, but frankly I don’t know why it isn’t.
Of course, If I bought lots of audiophile label records I’d (hopefully!) have much less issues, but I forgot to mention that even with AP, every record I’ve put from them has a major seam split in the gatefold. Really nasty damage. I rang the seller and they said all the AP products they receive are like this, and it is because of how they are shipped. So frustrating !
Even for the $255 AUD I paid for the Thriller One Step, you’d think the packaging would be a bit nicer? No extras? The exact same contents as your run-of-the mill copy of Thriller? Really? At least the pressing was really nice and sounds great.
“Oh well” is my response to a lot of this. Nonetheless, I love my records, they always get played and I know they’ll be with me forever. And you’re right, when a record is perfect its something special, and it keeps the hunt for fantastic records alive. This community for discussion is also great, and hence all the attributes of collecting records can now have me overlook some of the flaws of the medium (mostly!)
Cheers!
@@ThePressingMatters Further, if I may ask, what has been your luck with getting good records? In other words, how many new records are you having to return?
@@Levi-ek4el I'd say I exchange about 20% for various problems. I use Amazon where possible because of this. With Prime, the shipping is all free and it's hassle free. Music Direct Ana AP have been good about exchanges. I did exchange quite a few One Steps and one or two UhQRs. Many Blue Note Classics and only a couple of Tone Poets or Acoustic Sounds Series. The Prestige Series has been flawless. I've had to exchange a few Craft reissues.
@Nicholas it will be interesting to see how this new plant does. I'm hoping it will alleviate the stress at RTI and QRP so everyone can slow down a bit and put more attention into quality control. I did not know that the Tone Poets were double checked at RatI with their own QC person. That makes sense and I've said in many videos they must have a second round of QC checks because Tone Poets do tend to be problem free in comparison to RTIs other output. I think it's pretty obvious MOFI does not have a similar arrangement for the One Steps. Hopefully that will change once the new plant is up and running. Great discussion, thank you Nicholas!
my bro…
…I’m gonna have to ask you to stop saying the words “this is”.
Good vid Mr Wilson.
I’ve been upsizing for 42 years so can’t relate.
Oh not you again! Lol! How many times did I say it? It's non-scripted, all that brilliance just pours out of my head.
I should have said 'and here we have' or 'next in my stack'
🙂
Donate them to me , I'll pay for the shipping 😮
That's one reason they are still here. When I showed what was going in the outgoing boxes, several viewers expressed interest in one or two titles I'm trying to think of a way to have a virtual garage sale, where we can flip through everything on a livestream and people can grab what they want for a low price, like $1 or $2 each. Or say a box of any 10 titles shipped within the US for $25.
I'll do that
@@jerryandlisa27 I'll keep you updated. Maybe do it a private livestream to anyone interested.
Please keep up the good work , you should do a system room tour with upgrades you made so far.
@@ThePressingMatters Get Mazzie to do it