Can you do more common stealth laptops, like 2060 and 2070 max q because I wanna see performance from a 2060 or 2070 max q because not many people will purchase a 2080 max q laptop
I bought a rtx 2060 version. It's quite good with the baterry life is nearly 7 hours. Gaming experience is not too hot if you're playing in the room with air-con turned on. For me it's a very good laptop for both working and gaming purpose.
@@QJHKI Fan is very loud on high load (even louder in cooler boost) but it's completely silent for the normal tasks like web browsing, typing,.... About the temp, I recommend you to turn off tubor boost for cpu, if u turn it off, the temp just arround 75 degree in celcius otherwise, it could reach upto 90 degrees. Temp when working is just normal as the others laptop, for working it perfectly fine.
@@phongbuiviet3787 you should try undervolt your CPU too. Search on you tube "Dave Lee $12 hacks for better temp". Undervolting drop my laptop temp quite significant too
I got the 1070 Max Q GS65 last year. I would have to buy the 2080 model to see a significant uptick in performance and it costs a full $1,000 more than I paid last year for the 1070mq. Looks like I'll be skipping a generation.
I think people should wait for the next generation bc the manufacturer are selling higher price bc of the hype. 1 or 2 years later the price will be reasonable with the 9th gen intel cpu. Btw how is the thermal of your device? And the build quality?
@@QJHKI Hey there. I'm happy with battery life for general use. I get about six hours of watching video, browsing, and office stuff. 3D gaming on battery is possible but only for maybe 1.5 hours and at reduced framerates. Fan noise is there when you're gaming but not bad at all and heat when gaming is hot on bottom but top stays cool. I love this laptop. It's been my baby for about a year now and still like new.
You want to know if a next gen gpu but a tier down will be better than last gen gpu in max q form? Nothing. It’ll be the same performance. If it was the same scenario in non max q form then that’s actually a fair question especially seeing how things are in desktop form
I just got this laptop and the thermals are off the charts, hitting 90 degrees centigrade in a matter of seconds. Going into the advanced power settings and putting the maximum processor state down to 98% gets me around 65 degrees but unfortunately lowers the fps by a where from 5-20 frames.
Once again an awesome review Lisa... I do believe this is the one I will buy, my local Best Buy has an "open box" that I can get for under $1200 so its all but a done deal... Going to pair it with a TB Dock and LG's new 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Ultrawide Gaming monitor. Should make for a great gaming rig! Keep rocking it Ms. Gade, we appreciate all you do!
Lisa -- I know everyone seems to know about a product call Goo-gone for removing the glue under those annoying stickers. I just bought myself a nicely priced Asus Vivobook S15 and getting the glue off was extra tricky because the laptop palm rests are textured -- allowing glue hiding places. I did a Google search and found out if you soak the glue in some WD-40 for maybe 20 minutes -- the glue comes right off. I mean with a Kleenex! If you haven't had the pleasure give it a try and consider sharing the info. It's kind of silly to buy a big bottle of something you'll almost never use.
Hey. Can you recommend me. Am confused between this gs65, acer triton 500 rtx. And aero 15. So far how you see your gs65? Build quality? Heat? Fan noise?
@@SymphoColors Great machine! Very good build quality. Temps are fine. Hovering around the 80's C after CPU undervolting. Battery life is over 5 hours on the GPU and over 7 in light use GPU OFF. And a lot of power under the hood! I recommend.
Great buy if you know little computer tech stay cool while running, I use a external fan ran by a wall socket not the laptop so I have 0 guilt with running SPORT mode for long periods
I had never seen any of the reviews in this channel, and I have to admit when I started watching I had a prejudice because she is not a young woman. I was really wrong, she really knows her stuff. Great video, you have a new sub
Older people that are in the tech industry usually know a lot more then younger people. They done been through multiple generations gaining knowledge. Not one young person was able to hack an iPhone for the FBI it was an older man who did it.
I bought the rtx 2060 version in march and added 512g ssd, and 16 gigs or ram for dual channel 32gigs. Kryonaught thermal grease on the cpu, gpu and thermal pads for power delivery. Have updated the bios twice. High recommend.
@@Nova3482 uni-mart? Sea Urchins? University of Northern Iowa?Just joking. It's a standard battery, that might get you 2-4 hours depending on power usage. Not that my opinion matters but I'll tell you the same thing my dad told me, which turned out to be true even in two tech degrees i earned. The likelihood of being on your cpu all day at lectures, labs, and what not, are slim. Writing notes, and then later typing them into a word doc will help you retain that info farm more than staring at a screen during a lecture. Lots of Notes, think about digital paper type of thing. it works! Everyone is different, not saying it would work for you, but audit a class or two and get an idea of what your day looks like. Chance favors the prepared mind.
@@spunkmire2664 great reply! I was wondering if I could probably extend the battery to 6-7 hours by reducing the screen brightness and the refresh rate to 60hz and undervolting the CPU. The main reason I'm worried about the battery is because I'm going to be doing CS and it involves a lot of coding. I anyway use handwritten notes to study so that isn't much of an issue
@@Nova3482 6 might be a stretch, but 4 i think its perfectly reasonable to assume. Anything past 4, id say you got something going for ya. PS: speakers on laptop are weaksauce no joke.
@@Nova3482 i just took off the charger on a full batt, i did not adjust any power settings, put on 2001 space odd. 4k, it got to 1 hour 35 mins before crit batt alert at 5%.
Best laptop reviews ever. I do have a question, Lisa. How married to its name do you think Computer Upgrade King is? Surely, a re-brand would help far more than it would hurt.
Master-Mirror'S the late comment lmao. Undervolting reduces power to the cpu to improve thermals with taking a hit to performance. You can use throttlestop or intel xtu to do it, search up a tutorial
for 500 dollars more is it worth getting the rtx 2060 version over the gtx 1660ti one? the difference would also be that the rtx version comes with 240hz panel and 1tb ssd
Great review! I just bought this with the 512GB SSD and the RTX 2060 at a Best Buy store for $1999.99. With the temps getting a little high in AAA gaming titles, would a laptop cooling pad help with the temps/throttling at all?
Can you make a review on the ps63? It's a good looking laptop but not a lot of people are making a review about it and I would be really interested if you'd do one!
The biggest upgrade I wanted to see is cooling. My gs65 with 1070mq is a beast however heat kills performance. Gpu temps are reasonable but cpu temps are insane.
Except maybe the 2080 max q only on the Asus zephyrus and the razerblade but they will cost a fortune for though especially the zephyrus its lowest specs price is a whopping $3300 excluding tax and shipping
Neil Nigel there are cheap 2060 choices like the prostar clevo you can customize and Eluktronics both of them u can customize especially thermal paste and they r more affordable
@Neil Nigel if you are looking to get into the pc world. Stick with gtx 1060 for good price but make sure it's not max q. I think you can get a Helios for about 1000. Which is good price.
I had my razer blade pro 4k for a while and it's never throttled playing triple A titles,these other manufacturers like msi ,Dell, asus wont invest money or resources like razer so that's why razer is (best of the best) ,great video as always lisa
Yea I want to buy a Razer blade (15) but all the negative reviews about laptops freaking out followed by lack of good customer service is really really concerning!!! Especially when you drop 1500-2200 dollars (premium price)!!!!!
I just want a great gaming laptop that’ll last me a good 5 years minimum! That looks clean and has a solid build like the Razer blade 15 or Mac book pro
You should wait for the next gen because I won’t upgrade my 1070 omen 17 I mean take a look at this hunk of expensive junk for example www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-17ICH-i7-8750H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html
DEATH the Lenovo Y740 weighs almost 3KG, 17 inch and barely beat a lighter and lower spec cheaper blade 15 with a 2070. This generation is all kinds of overpriced fked up crap.
Excellent review as always Lisa. RTX mobile performance is underwhelming to say the least. Any chance you're going to review the gem cut Spectre 15 x360?
@@tryintech839 and I've heard it doesn't have the problem of last year's Stealth-Thin model where overheating was a problem. I got to see the 9SD(GTX 1660ti i7 9750h) model at Best Buy but am hesitant on buying first
I notice there's a whole lot of GS65 models. I was looking on the 1667 model with enhancements. I heard otherolder models had bad issues with hinge / screen peeling, but newer ones got better. Is the 1667 one that is better?
Just bought the MSI G65-748 Stealth... with 32GB Ram, 512GB SSD, GeForce RTX 2060... for $1700 at BEST BUY!!!!!! This thing is a beauty... I was using an ASUS ROG G752VS OC Edition... but this is much much better for Design, Client Meetings, and even Gaming!!! Gonna have to sell my ASUS now.
Hi, Thank you for your help about the experience with this laptop :) really helfull One question: Is secure to use liquid metal paste on processor and gpu? Because I Heard that it can't touch aluminion surfaces becuase it Will destroy it, and when the paste is hot it turns more liquid so can go through the components that are conductors of electricity can damage the system. Maybe make sense in a pc station in house but a laptop that you move it it is sabe to use metal liquid paste? Thank you
The Y740 is the new weakest laptop and above everything it does badly you are guaranteed a screen that has bleeding atleast from one corner if u are lucky and to add insult to injury it barely beats the blade 15 with an rtx2070 by only 6% while using a 2080 max q! It’s a complete joke here take a look www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-17ICH-i7-8750H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html
Cesar B oh yeah it’s also big and very heavy and I mean almost 3KG and it’s 17 inch with a 2080 barely beats a smaller lighter cheaper blade 15 with a 2070
@@Drzestrella19 oh okay. How do you like it so far? I went to mine a week ago. They only had the Best Buy edition ones with the 1070. I was hoping MSI makes one for Best Buy again since it was cheaper.
@@jedimaster12100 i returned it because heat problems and now i have the msi gs75 rtx2070 max q a little bit better in terms of performance and thermals. I was running CS-GO in ultra and the cpu was around 69-75c league of legends in very high settings 70c max. So i guess is worth the extra 300 but it up to you.
Would not recommend going for MSI. Motherboard on my GS 63 vr broke after 1 year and 3 months, got it replaced, broke again after 8 months. Msi tried to cheat on me the second time saying the motherboard died because of physical damage, and tried to charge me for $1400 for the replacement when the laptop was only $1800 what a load of bull crap. After I explained that I took good care of my laptop, always carried it in padded case, never dropped it, mostly use it at home. They finally agree to replaced it for free under the warranty like they should, then they proceed to tell me that my wifi antenna is broken. Again another lie, my wifi was working perfectly fine, they probably break it or just want me to pay $100 for the replacement. Made the mistake buying a MSI, never again.
The reason they put the motherboard "upside down" probably is to avoid an unwanted issue happenning with (over)heating, which is components weldings loss, bc pewter melts enough to let the gravity pull components down, & that can also make connexions - reliable, locally overheating (like electric cables...). I read that concerning my laptop overheating, but it seems to be a rare or extreme issue, + likely to happen when, in 1st place, the laptop is not cooled properly. So in a way, they should never have proper reasons to do so... 🤔
Hey Lisa, Really loving your videos. A quick question...for some weird reason the MSI GS65 2080mq is the same price as the GS75mq here where I'm from (Ph). Is there a big difference between the two? I like the smaller, more "compact" 15" one but if the 17" with one more m.2 ssd slot also means better thermals coz...bigger, should I get the GS75 instead? Thank you for your frank and clear reviews. Cheers!
Just for learning reasons, why I ask this. Is the Max-Q that much worse? I don't fully understand how different they are. So would the non Max-Q RTX 2060 run better/more frames? Why is that a thing when the Max-Q rtx 2070/2080 are more money?
@@xXiONic64Xx Hey sorry I didn't see this. So the RTX 2060 will run worse with lower frames, but not by much. In general, the $ increase to performance ratio for an RTX 2080 max Q vs a full RTX 2060 just isn't worth it, unless you are getting a really good deal.
Hey Lisa. Big demand for 3d modelling work that only gaming laptops kinda suit. Need the GPU but also need Colour gamut for presentation rendering. Do you know what colour gamut this covers?
Besides the Razer Blade (2019), are there any other thin gaming laptops that can hold 64gb of RAM? Any recommendations on type of RAM to buy? Corona (3D rendering) is a RAM hog.
Guys is there a big difference between this one and the Gs75 ?as the 65 is much cheaper now , I am a 3d animation student and i am willing to keep the laptop for the next 5 years
Hey should i buy a MSI GP65 for with a intel i7 9750H & A RTX 2070, 144hz 15.6inch for $2.6k, or a asus scar iii with same specs, only diffrence is the asus has a 240hz screen & 17.3 inch for $2.9k? Should i pay extra?
Hi, I just wondering to know. Did you give the right for people upload your video in bilibili which is a Chinese video web? I see someone using this video inbilibili website and wonderring to know.
Hey Lisa, Question as you have been reviewing all the different MSI models I have found these videos to be very useful. I ended up getting the MSI GE75 RAIDER RTX 2070 based on your review as being the nice balance between GT and GS in size. I did my 3DMark test and ended up getting about a score of 6500 for Time Spy. Your one and many others i seen on the 3DMark site are closer to the 7500 mark for the score. Unfortunately the site does not tell you if anyone has modified their system in anyway, Is there something you did to achieve that score? or were you running stock standard hardware for those test? Any advice would be appreciated. PS - How do you get FPS to show up in game in top left corner lol (it has been 8 years since I games on a pc, consoles took over my life haha)
You can use GeForce experience to have an fps counter in corner of the screen. Use FRAPS or more hardware monitoring programs to include CPU Core speed and temperature
Throw a second matching RAM stick in, that dual channel RAM config makes a big difference. I have a recent video on that topic. I typically use the FPS counter option in Steam and Origin. GeForce Experience has one too (but it won't show up on video captures- which you don't care about but I have to care about).
@@mobiletechreview I thought about that, but damn didn't think an extra RAM stick to get it to dual channel would add an extra 1000 points on top. 6500 seem about right for a stock standard out of the box one? Just was worried as I do not want to set up all my software then find out GPU issues lol. Thanks for the tips on the FPS too. Will suss them out. Now not sure if you have any video on USB mice for gaming, but will go check out your channel see if there is.
@@gimkoau a nice wireless mouse is the Logitech G Wireless Pro. It's like 150 but it's the best wireless mouse has amazing battery life. Software isn't finnicky either. If that's too much you can pick a Final Mouse. No lighting effects but it's light and great for fps games due to its light weight. If that is also out of your budget let me know the max you can spend on a mouse
@@ThirstQuencher_ Thanks mate. It is about 250AUD here, I like how it's simplistic. Not sure how people can press 11 buttons on the more advanced ones lol, they so clustered together.
quick question on the mother board view - beside the trackpad flat cable there is another option to connect something, right beside the E of CE. Any Idea what that is for?
That, and if you read the comments on MSI GS series laptops from 1 year plus ago, many people have commented that they ended up with an expensive paperweight.
hello from India, Lisa :D Love your channel, it's very very underrated !! i have a question - would you recommend the razer blade stealth 13 mx150 in this market? specially because the price's dropped to 1200 bucks ?
Blood Savage Don’t get Razer, MSI, they have horrible customer service and horrible quality control. I think the laptop that is the coolest in about the same price range is the lenovo y540 and y740, but they are under perform compare to other laptops with the same specs.
Wow what a good review. You covered everything lol. This is the type of review I want when i search for reviews.
Underrated channel.
she deserve min. 3M subs.
@@DaveAthil, agree. It is one of the few that just does the core review, no smoke and mirrors and goes into great detail on each bit.
Lisa is weirdly awesome. Some people might not appreciate it but I love it.
Agreed, I love how unbiased she is. She considers other opinions and talks about everything that we want to know about.
I would say her and dave2d are the best laptop reviewers on youtube.
I just found this channel. Extremely impressed. Can't believe I haven't come across this channel before.
Can you do more common stealth laptops, like 2060 and 2070 max q because I wanna see performance from a 2060 or 2070 max q because not many people will purchase a 2080 max q laptop
Yeah I'm in the 2070 Max-Q lot as well. It seems as though many reviewers get the maxed out ones that don't apply to most people.
Thanks a lot for the review. I wanted a review as there wasn't one anywhere. Thanks a lot!
I bought a rtx 2060 version. It's quite good with the baterry life is nearly 7 hours. Gaming experience is not too hot if you're playing in the room with air-con turned on. For me it's a very good laptop for both working and gaming purpose.
How's the idle or web browsing temp? How loud is the fan?
@@QJHKI Fan is very loud on high load (even louder in cooler boost) but it's completely silent for the normal tasks like web browsing, typing,.... About the temp, I recommend you to turn off tubor boost for cpu, if u turn it off, the temp just arround 75 degree in celcius otherwise, it could reach upto 90 degrees. Temp when working is just normal as the others laptop, for working it perfectly fine.
@@phongbuiviet3787 you should try undervolt your CPU too. Search on you tube "Dave Lee $12 hacks for better temp". Undervolting drop my laptop temp quite significant too
@@phongbuiviet3787 I'm torn between the GS 65 or opting for the more expensive blade 15
@@QJHKI if money isnt a big deal for you, then just go ahead a buy razer. Otherwise, gs65's still just fine.
I got the 1070 Max Q GS65 last year. I would have to buy the 2080 model to see a significant uptick in performance and it costs a full $1,000 more than I paid last year for the 1070mq. Looks like I'll be skipping a generation.
Same boat and same conclusion I reached. The new models don't provide enough of a performance improvement to justify the cost.
I think people should wait for the next generation bc the manufacturer are selling higher price bc of the hype. 1 or 2 years later the price will be reasonable with the 9th gen intel cpu. Btw how is the thermal of your device? And the build quality?
Dude Im planning to buy this laptop. How's your experience with the battery, fan noise, and heat ?
@@QJHKI i think the triton 500 is better overall. Both laptops have a many similarity.
@@QJHKI Hey there. I'm happy with battery life for general use. I get about six hours of watching video, browsing, and office stuff. 3D gaming on battery is possible but only for maybe 1.5 hours and at reduced framerates. Fan noise is there when you're gaming but not bad at all and heat when gaming is hot on bottom but top stays cool. I love this laptop. It's been my baby for about a year now and still like new.
Been waiting for this review!
used to watch you so many years ago, you give such good info and have a very easy listening voice
I'd like to see the performance gains from MSI gs65 1070mq to MSI gs65 2060
Yeah I have the GS65 1070mq and I'm not seeing anything here that makes me want to drop money on the RTX models.
@@Beastw1ck I've just bought the 1070mq 2 weeks ago, guess I'm just hoping 2060 sucks lol
Runs cooler. 2060 performs better and has less TDP
You want to know if a next gen gpu but a tier down will be better than last gen gpu in max q form? Nothing. It’ll be the same performance.
If it was the same scenario in non max q form then that’s actually a fair question especially seeing how things are in desktop form
@@KING0SISQO from the charts it looks like the 2060 pulls ahead in most scenarios vs 1070 max q
As a former Advanced Placement Physics student, I LOVE your shirt! Hahaha! Adorable! Rest of the video was really interesting, too! Woo!
I just got this laptop and the thermals are off the charts, hitting 90 degrees centigrade in a matter of seconds. Going into the advanced power settings and putting the maximum processor state down to 98% gets me around 65 degrees but unfortunately lowers the fps by a where from 5-20 frames.
undervolt it
as the other commenter said, undervolt it. Both CPU(in Throttlestop) and GPU(msi afterburner curve using ctrol+f)
Just put it on my Christmas list - if I get it Lisa your content link has dibs. Great channel!
She's speaking in the language of the gods..
Once again an awesome review Lisa... I do believe this is the one I will buy, my local Best Buy has an "open box" that I can get for under $1200 so its all but a done deal... Going to pair it with a TB Dock and LG's new 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Ultrawide Gaming monitor. Should make for a great gaming rig! Keep rocking it Ms. Gade, we appreciate all you do!
Lisa is a brilliant reviewer. Technically astute and totally objective!
Such a great channel. You are an absolute legend
great review, as always.
Excellent review! Concise and comprehensive. I am definitely coming back here for more, please keep them coming.
Lisa -- I know everyone seems to know about a product call Goo-gone for removing the glue under those annoying stickers. I just bought myself a nicely priced Asus Vivobook S15 and getting the glue off was extra tricky because the laptop palm rests are textured -- allowing glue hiding places. I did a Google search and found out if you soak the glue in some WD-40 for maybe 20 minutes -- the glue comes right off. I mean with a Kleenex! If you haven't had the pleasure give it a try and consider sharing the info. It's kind of silly to buy a big bottle of something you'll almost never use.
In my area though you can find small bottles of Goo Gone for $1 at the dollar store. It's a worthy investment IMHO.
Thank for the review I happy with my msi gs65 with hrs 1070 no need to upgrade
No mention of the right-hand palm resting and unintentionally clicking the oversized track pad when typing.
Bought GS65 because of this video!
And I'm super happy!!!
Very informative videos you are making.
Keep it going.
Underrated channel.
Hey. Can you recommend me. Am confused between this gs65, acer triton 500 rtx. And aero 15.
So far how you see your gs65? Build quality? Heat? Fan noise?
@@SymphoColors
Great machine!
Very good build quality.
Temps are fine. Hovering around the 80's C after CPU undervolting.
Battery life is over 5 hours on the GPU and over 7 in light use GPU OFF.
And a lot of power under the hood!
I recommend.
Got it as well great laptop
@@julianchauhan3464 is there two harddrive slots?
There is a 1660Ti version of the gs65 also. How does that compare to the 1070 from last year?
Rtx2060>gtx1660ti>gtx1070
As example
Rtx2060 120fps
Gtx1660ti 105fps
Gtx1070 100fps
Great buy if you know little computer tech stay cool while running, I use a external fan ran by a wall socket not the laptop so I have 0 guilt with running SPORT mode for long periods
Thanks alot for the detailed review.
I had never seen any of the reviews in this channel, and I have to admit when I started watching I had a prejudice because she is not a young woman. I was really wrong, she really knows her stuff. Great video, you have a new sub
Older people that are in the tech industry usually know a lot more then younger people. They done been through multiple generations gaining knowledge. Not one young person was able to hack an iPhone for the FBI it was an older man who did it.
I bought the rtx 2060 version in march and added 512g ssd, and 16 gigs or ram for dual channel 32gigs. Kryonaught thermal grease on the cpu, gpu and thermal pads for power delivery. Have updated the bios twice. High recommend.
How is the battery as I want to get this for uni
@@Nova3482 uni-mart? Sea Urchins?
University of Northern Iowa?Just joking.
It's a standard battery, that might get you 2-4 hours depending on power usage.
Not that my opinion matters but I'll tell you the same thing my dad told me, which turned out to be true even in two tech degrees i earned.
The likelihood of being on your cpu all day at lectures, labs, and what not, are slim. Writing notes, and then later typing them into a word doc will help you retain that info farm more than staring at a screen during a lecture.
Lots of Notes, think about digital paper type of thing. it works!
Everyone is different, not saying it would work for you, but audit a class or two and get an idea of what your day looks like.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
@@spunkmire2664 great reply! I was wondering if I could probably extend the battery to 6-7 hours by reducing the screen brightness and the refresh rate to 60hz and undervolting the CPU.
The main reason I'm worried about the battery is because I'm going to be doing CS and it involves a lot of coding. I anyway use handwritten notes to study so that isn't much of an issue
@@Nova3482 6 might be a stretch, but 4 i think its perfectly reasonable to assume. Anything past 4, id say you got something going for ya.
PS: speakers on laptop are weaksauce no joke.
@@Nova3482 i just took off the charger on a full batt, i did not adjust any power settings, put on 2001 space odd. 4k, it got to 1 hour 35 mins before crit batt alert at 5%.
Excellent, comprehensive review! Thanks!
Best laptop reviews ever. I do have a question, Lisa. How married to its name do you think Computer Upgrade King is? Surely, a re-brand would help far more than it would hurt.
@@jimjohnson6944 what's cucks?
@@nateportney672
Do a quick search on google images for 'cuckold vids' to understand
There's also a 9th Gen i7 with a 1660ti model.
Love your videos Lisa! :D
9:40 what about CPU and GPU undervolting? did an amazing job on my Dell G3
what is undervolting? and what it do?
Master-Mirror'S the late comment lmao.
Undervolting reduces power to the cpu to improve thermals with taking a hit to performance.
You can use throttlestop or intel xtu to do it, search up a tutorial
for 500 dollars more is it worth getting the rtx 2060 version over the gtx 1660ti one? the difference would also be that the rtx version comes with 240hz panel and 1tb ssd
EsTella 123 oh yes it is!!!! 2060 great value over 1660Ti so I went with the 2060 :)
Plz do a comparison for msi ge 63 and asus strix scar 2 both with rtx 2070 if possible
Great review! I just bought this with the 512GB SSD and the RTX 2060 at a Best Buy store for $1999.99. With the temps getting a little high in AAA gaming titles, would a laptop cooling pad help with the temps/throttling at all?
Nice review, thx!
What about noise ? Comparing to last gen and to Razer blade 15?
Your reviews are excellent!
Can you make a review on the ps63? It's a good looking laptop but not a lot of people are making a review about it and I would be really interested if you'd do one!
You're a fantastic reviewer. Keep up the great work!
Great balanced review! I don't feel it's commercial like in other reviews. Thank you!
as its full RTX 2060 what drivers should we instal? notebooks or desktop for this rtx 2060 in this laptop?
The biggest upgrade I wanted to see is cooling. My gs65 with 1070mq is a beast however heat kills performance. Gpu temps are reasonable but cpu temps are insane.
Amazing review. Hadn't heard of this channel. Thanks Lisa. Subscribed!
I got this one and I love it
Love this channel.
Just got it brand new, it's loosing power while plugged in while playing demanding games only, is this normal?
Max Q RTX performance in laptops suck rather keep my 1070 MAX P for a few more years
Sad but true
Except maybe the 2080 max q only on the Asus zephyrus and the razerblade but they will cost a fortune for though especially the zephyrus its lowest specs price is a whopping $3300 excluding tax and shipping
Neil Nigel there are cheap 2060 choices like the prostar clevo you can customize and Eluktronics both of them u can customize especially thermal paste and they r more affordable
@Neil Nigel if you are looking to get into the pc world. Stick with gtx 1060 for good price but make sure it's not max q. I think you can get a Helios for about 1000. Which is good price.
@@jacktenrec1447 max q is underclocked may as well just say that :v
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 Awesome review thx for this.
Your like the best reviewer thx for this review I plan on getting this laptop. Great video!
I had my razer blade pro 4k for a while and it's never throttled playing triple A titles,these other manufacturers like msi ,Dell, asus wont invest money or resources like razer so that's why razer is (best of the best) ,great video as always lisa
Razer has awful reviews and quality control though. I don't know how you can say that it's best of the best.
Yea I want to buy a Razer blade (15) but all the negative reviews about laptops freaking out followed by lack of good customer service is really really concerning!!! Especially when you drop 1500-2200 dollars (premium price)!!!!!
I just want a great gaming laptop that’ll last me a good 5 years minimum! That looks clean and has a solid build like the Razer blade 15 or Mac book pro
I’m still happy with the 10series
You should wait for the next gen because I won’t upgrade my 1070 omen 17 I mean take a look at this hunk of expensive junk for example www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-17ICH-i7-8750H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html
DEATH the Lenovo Y740 weighs almost 3KG, 17 inch and barely beat a lighter and lower spec cheaper blade 15 with a 2070. This generation is all kinds of overpriced fked up crap.
that perfect less 10 keys keyboard layout though. gaming and programming at the same time
lisa do you recommend the 15 inch or 17 i travel alot? i have till tomorow to make a decision
Excellent review as always Lisa. RTX mobile performance is underwhelming to say the least. Any chance you're going to review the gem cut Spectre 15 x360?
I'd like to see a review of the MSI GS65 Stealth 9SD(the 2019 GTX 1660ti) model.
I, too, would like to see this as I feel this model variant is the more affordable value option in slim and light gaming laptops.
@@tryintech839 and I've heard it doesn't have the problem of last year's Stealth-Thin model where overheating was a problem. I got to see the 9SD(GTX 1660ti i7 9750h) model at Best Buy but am hesitant on buying first
Subscribed! Great content
I notice there's a whole lot of GS65 models. I was looking on the 1667 model with enhancements. I heard otherolder models had bad issues with hinge / screen peeling, but newer ones got better. Is the 1667 one that is better?
Just bought the MSI G65-748 Stealth... with 32GB Ram, 512GB SSD, GeForce RTX 2060... for $1700 at BEST BUY!!!!!! This thing is a beauty... I was using an ASUS ROG G752VS OC Edition... but this is much much better for Design, Client Meetings, and even Gaming!!! Gonna have to sell my ASUS now.
Hi,
Thank you for your help about the experience with this laptop :) really helfull
One question:
Is secure to use liquid metal paste on processor and gpu? Because I Heard that it can't touch aluminion surfaces becuase it Will destroy it, and when the paste is hot it turns more liquid so can go through the components that are conductors of electricity can damage the system. Maybe make sense in a pc station in house but a laptop that you move it it is sabe to use metal liquid paste?
Thank you
When will you review the Lenovo Y740?
The Y740 is the new weakest laptop and above everything it does badly you are guaranteed a screen that has bleeding atleast from one corner if u are lucky and to add insult to injury it barely beats the blade 15 with an rtx2070 by only 6% while using a 2080 max q! It’s a complete joke here take a look www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-17ICH-i7-8750H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html
Cesar B oh yeah it’s also big and very heavy and I mean almost 3KG and it’s 17 inch with a 2080 barely beats a smaller lighter cheaper blade 15 with a 2070
Such a great review Lisa. I hope Best Buy releases a version of this laptop.
I got the gs65 with a rtx2060 from best buy. They do have them in stock already a least in my state.
@@Drzestrella19 oh okay. How do you like it so far? I went to mine a week ago. They only had the Best Buy edition ones with the 1070. I was hoping MSI makes one for Best Buy again since it was cheaper.
@@jedimaster12100 i returned it because heat problems and now i have the msi gs75 rtx2070 max q a little bit better in terms of performance and thermals. I was running CS-GO in ultra and the cpu was around 69-75c league of legends in very high settings 70c max. So i guess is worth the extra 300 but it up to you.
Would not recommend going for MSI.
Motherboard on my GS 63 vr broke after 1 year and 3 months, got it replaced, broke again after 8 months.
Msi tried to cheat on me the second time saying the motherboard died because of physical damage, and tried to charge me for $1400 for the replacement when the laptop was only $1800 what a load of bull crap.
After I explained that I took good care of my laptop, always carried it in padded case, never dropped it, mostly use it at home. They finally agree to replaced it for free under the warranty like they should, then they proceed to
tell me that my wifi antenna is broken. Again another lie, my wifi was working perfectly fine, they probably break it or just want me to pay $100 for the replacement.
Made the mistake buying a MSI, never again.
@@hryank33 oh wow. Thanks for the heads up.
have gs65 2018, still great ;)
My trackpad makes a soft, short click first before the actual click. Is this normal?
The reason they put the motherboard "upside down" probably is to avoid an unwanted issue happenning with (over)heating, which is components weldings loss, bc pewter melts enough to let the gravity pull components down, & that can also make connexions - reliable, locally overheating (like electric cables...).
I read that concerning my laptop overheating, but it seems to be a rare or extreme issue, + likely to happen when, in 1st place, the laptop is not cooled properly. So in a way, they should never have proper reasons to do so... 🤔
Hey Lisa,
Really loving your videos.
A quick question...for some weird reason the MSI GS65 2080mq is the same price as the GS75mq here where I'm from (Ph). Is there a big difference between the two?
I like the smaller, more "compact" 15" one but if the 17" with one more m.2 ssd slot also means better thermals coz...bigger, should I get the GS75 instead?
Thank you for your frank and clear reviews.
Cheers!
Very nice review, thank you.
Best tech channel! Anything Max-Q is a hard pass for me, but Lisa's videos are still an insta-watch nonetheless
Just for learning reasons, why I ask this. Is the Max-Q that much worse? I don't fully understand how different they are. So would the non Max-Q RTX 2060 run better/more frames? Why is that a thing when the Max-Q rtx 2070/2080 are more money?
@@xXiONic64Xx Hey sorry I didn't see this. So the RTX 2060 will run worse with lower frames, but not by much. In general, the $ increase to performance ratio for an RTX 2080 max Q vs a full RTX 2060 just isn't worth it, unless you are getting a really good deal.
Quality content
Her channel deserves more subscribers lol
Did the CUK upgrade void the MSI warranty?
You have awesome energy, love watching your reviews! (ps: and you know shit loads about all this stuff!)
I love your reviews BUT I REALLY LOVE YOUR T SHIRTS always amazing
This review is really good tho, you solved all of my concerns like the bad news from the upside down motherboard what the hell
All the numbers and benchs made me realize how powerful Lenovo Legion Y740 2070MQ is.
but much bigger and heavier
Hey Lisa. Big demand for 3d modelling work that only gaming laptops kinda suit. Need the GPU but also need Colour gamut for presentation rendering. Do you know what colour gamut this covers?
The gs66 looks so sick
Besides the Razer Blade (2019), are there any other thin gaming laptops that can hold 64gb of RAM? Any recommendations on type of RAM to buy? Corona (3D rendering) is a RAM hog.
Gs75 I think can.
@@JustinWu Thanks, but I should have said 15 inch only.
theoretically, anything with the i7 8xxx series and 2 ram slots should be able to.
@@KumaMech theoretically really doesn't help me as manufacturers have their own limitations on their laptops
Nicely said, cannot defy the laws of physics, loved the review
Hair dryers do great to remove stickers off of anything. Great vidoe!
Guys is there a big difference between this one and the Gs75 ?as the 65 is much cheaper now , I am a 3d animation student and i am willing to keep the laptop for the next 5 years
I'm so glad I found this channel.
Display is acceptable for some video editing (no gaming...)? Thank you!
No GS75 yet??
Can you please do a review of Computer Upgrade King's Model z with Rtx? It is one of the cheapest RTX options around.
Can I edit 4k video on it even though the display is only full HD? 🤔
Is it nirmal that the Display is a bit curved and not straight on the chassi
Lisssssa!!!! Totally unrelated but where is your review of the Galaxy S10+?? Your review will be the only one I trust!! Can’t wait! Hurry hurry 😀
That Apex gameplay killed me
hard to watch...
@@tanner1ful even harded its PS4 !
Can you review the Dell g3 15” gaming laptop in alpine white?
Hey should i buy a MSI GP65 for with a intel i7 9750H & A RTX 2070, 144hz 15.6inch for $2.6k, or a asus scar iii with same specs, only diffrence is the asus has a 240hz screen & 17.3 inch for $2.9k? Should i pay extra?
Hi, I just wondering to know. Did you give the right for people upload your video in bilibili which is a Chinese video web? I see someone using this video inbilibili website and wonderring to know.
How is the undervolt? perform close to the blade?
Resistance is Futile (if < 1 ohm) - damn right sister :)
Hey Lisa,
Question as you have been reviewing all the different MSI models I have found these videos to be very useful.
I ended up getting the MSI GE75 RAIDER RTX 2070 based on your review as being the nice balance between GT and GS in size.
I did my 3DMark test and ended up getting about a score of 6500 for Time Spy. Your one and many others i seen on the 3DMark site are closer to the 7500 mark for the score. Unfortunately the site does not tell you if anyone has modified their system in anyway,
Is there something you did to achieve that score? or were you running stock standard hardware for those test? Any advice would be appreciated.
PS - How do you get FPS to show up in game in top left corner lol (it has been 8 years since I games on a pc, consoles took over my life haha)
You can use GeForce experience to have an fps counter in corner of the screen. Use FRAPS or more hardware monitoring programs to include CPU Core speed and temperature
Throw a second matching RAM stick in, that dual channel RAM config makes a big difference. I have a recent video on that topic. I typically use the FPS counter option in Steam and Origin. GeForce Experience has one too (but it won't show up on video captures- which you don't care about but I have to care about).
@@mobiletechreview I thought about that, but damn didn't think an extra RAM stick to get it to dual channel would add an extra 1000 points on top.
6500 seem about right for a stock standard out of the box one? Just was worried as I do not want to set up all my software then find out GPU issues lol.
Thanks for the tips on the FPS too. Will suss them out.
Now not sure if you have any video on USB mice for gaming, but will go check out your channel see if there is.
@@gimkoau a nice wireless mouse is the Logitech G Wireless Pro. It's like 150 but it's the best wireless mouse has amazing battery life. Software isn't finnicky either.
If that's too much you can pick a Final Mouse. No lighting effects but it's light and great for fps games due to its light weight.
If that is also out of your budget let me know the max you can spend on a mouse
@@ThirstQuencher_ Thanks mate. It is about 250AUD here, I like how it's simplistic. Not sure how people can press 11 buttons on the more advanced ones lol, they so clustered together.
quick question on the mother board view - beside the trackpad flat cable there is another option to connect something, right beside the E of CE. Any Idea what that is for?
Guys is there a big difference between this one and the Gs75 ?as the 65 is much cheaper now , I am a 3d animation student.
It isn't the flex that is the biggest problem, it's the cracking/creaking when you use it.
That, and if you read the comments on MSI GS series laptops from 1 year plus ago, many people have commented that they ended up with an expensive paperweight.
hello from India, Lisa :D Love your channel, it's very very underrated !! i have a question - would you recommend the razer blade stealth 13 mx150 in this market? specially because the price's dropped to 1200 bucks ?
For recent reviews, this laptop, the razer, etc which would you suggest for someone who lives somewhere hot like nv, az, etc?
Blood Savage Don’t get Razer, MSI, they have horrible customer service and horrible quality control.
I think the laptop that is the coolest in about the same price range is the lenovo y540 and y740, but they are under perform compare to other laptops with the same specs.
Does it overheat though? like while playing rust on simple or dota on ultra?