Does 50 Years Make A Difference? || Vintage Fender Deluxe vs Reissue
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2018
- Does 50 years really make a difference? In this video I shootout an original 1967 blackface Fender Deluxe Reverb vs a modern 2017 reissue Deluxe to see what difference 50 years has made.
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On the intro, the amount of reverb and volume were so different that they were not comparable. In the subsequent section, I'd side with the vintage based on settings, particularly for the driven tones. However, I don't really see the point in setting the two amps to their numerical equivalents for this type of comparison. Even though they are "airquotes" the same, we all know they aren't. Just dial one in to the best sound you can get, and then make adjustments to the other to match as closely as possible. Most people don't care if the two amps are the same if everything is set to 5. They want to know if they can get the vintage sound out of a new amp.
Will you come back in 50 years and compare the 2017 with the 2067 Re-Issue?
I would have tried both amps with the 67' speaker, then you would know if the amps are really different or not.
Wow, that overdriven sound is so bad on the 2017, compared to the vintage one
The modern reissue for 2023 is now $1,700.00. I just bought one.
The 67 outshines the RI in every way possible. However, if you didn't have the 67 to compare it to, we would be talking about how great it sounds. I personally wouldn't hesitate to pay double for the 67! It's a classic, original fender blackface deluxe reverb that checks all the boxes! I recently bought a 68 custom and chose it over the 65 because the 65 sounded too dark for my liking. Nothing like the originals though
People don´t need and don´t want to work on stage with a vintage amp, that could break down on stage at any time and that cost a furtune, will say cost a collector´s price. Speakers grow old with the time, means: they get "weaker". I would say, that this is the loss in volume and bass range that was mentioned. Is this possibly true that the 1967 Amp did sound a lot more crispy and bassy when it once was brand new? I prefer new Fender amps. They sound Fender, they look Fender and they are ready for stage use and recording. Some pedals will help to get the vintage sound anyway. I did truly save a lot of bucks by buying a new Fender amp.
Fine wine brother. 67" hands down. More articulate, expressive, warm and dynamic...
The ‘67 for me. I prefer to not have the one with 1/8W resistors, printed circuit, cheap caps. Hand-wired is much easier to service IMHO
A good player can find the sweet spot in any amp. It is not apples to apples. A lot of the component suppliers for the original amp no longer exist and UL standards and epa standards make a difference in how the amp is constructed. The reverb in the old fender amps can be very springy and you have to be skilled in order to use it.
I prefer the '67 for overdrives and the '17 for clean sounds
It’s such a pleasure to hear you play Rhett. You make those guitars and amps sound killer.
I really love that you mentioned the speaker being largely responsible for the difference. I want the same exact comparison but use the same speaker and tubes and same biasing then we’ll really know how much can be attributed to other components.
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Great video, thanks!
good video. the real difference shows when you turn it up. the distortion on the 67’ is a lot better than on the modern
I think having that vintage amp would be worth double the price of that new one, the vintage one is just sweeeeeet! And not only is it a great commodity and great equipment, it's a valuable collectible and vintage decor piece all in one
As a owner of a '63 delux reverb I knew which one it was as soon as it was played. My uncle gave me his first guitar (a fender music master)and the delux reverb amp when I was 10. I'm so fortunate and blessed he did. It gave me the opportunity to express myself through music. After 30 years of playing that amp, the sound was unmistakable to me.
Honestly I really like the 2017 for cleans, but definitely preferred the 67’ for edge of breakup/overdriven tones. Of course my opinion is subject to change if I was sitting in the room with both the amps playing them. Great video as always Rhett. 👍