I agree that there is science that isn't looked at more closely because some studies are bought and paid for by interest groups. However, I think you have a terrible take concerning physics. General relativity and Quantum Field Theory are the best things humanity has to explain the universe. You wouldn't be using a lot of technology you have if not for these discoveries. Black Holes were also proven at least mathematically and the scientific community didn't believe they existed. This gradually changed until we literally photographed one. I usually agree since you are usually very nuanced on certain topics, but not all science is like this.
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ~ wise and powerful tolkien
ohhh but our wise institutions tell us reading Lord of the Rings or 1984 leads to white supremacy... ohhh gawdddd! ;) Whatifatlhist is right.. when does it become better to be that than a leftist? lol
I'm considering the conversation between the Morgul and Gorgoroth captains in Shelob's tunnel. "They say the war's going well. But they always say that" "What's say we throw in together? Find a pack of trusty lads and go where there's booty and no bosses, like the old days?"
There’s a little part that you’ve missed out about the mouse utopia experiment: The scientists would sometimes take out some of the nihilistic and self destructive mice and put them into more healthier mouse environments, yet since they’ve been conditioned since birth to not be able to socialize, they would end up withering away. I live in Eastern Europe and sometimes my cousins from the states would come visit, and would seriously isolate themselves, never going out, never starting conversations, and would always say that they’re bored. My dad calls them “broilers” as in mass farmed broiler chickens that have never seen what lies beyond their cages.
@@hazabazza7425 I have to agree here. The culture of Eastern Europe is different from the one in a foreign country you might have moved to. Myself for example, I am Romanian teen, but live in Ireland, and I can see how teen culture is different here. In Romania when i spend time with my cousin, we go drinking, if able to, we go to forests and climb trees, we try to get girls, horny teenage boy things like that. while in Ireland, I barely go outside with my friends, not due to school, but they do none of these things and also just not spend time outside or with girls. One of my friends got made fun of for being with a girl. And also just how teens act that plays a role. In Romania, they act way more mature then in Ireland. And it conflicts with everything, The culture you live around, and the one you grew up with mix, and one slightly dominates the other.
and you are missing the part were the people from the states are actually people who sociolize and live in a healthy environment, while you are someone who is criticising your cousins for visiting you, but not finding friends on their own in a unknown environment. you also rather cite your fathers thoughts on this matter instead of asking your cousins why they arent sociolizing beyond visiting their family. you are the crazy person incapable to ask themself if they are crazy. furthermore everybody else, not fitting your worldview has to be crazy. maybe if you would take 2 healthy mice and you put them into an exclusive destructive environment, they would isolate, too. maybe your whole society is so destructive and negative, that your cousins cant stand it and only be cause of socialnorms and love for you, are coming to visit in the first place. maybe the whole mice-sociology is inconclusive and all points made about our society because of it are wrong. but the maker of the video doesnt seem to think about that possibility, because he has confirmed his own bias. and before you start with any call for me being a biggot. i have ptsd as well.
And people say we're so much better than our ancestors. Like human nature doesn't exist, and that we don't have to put in effort to change ourselves. This will keep happening until people in an era realize their weakness and humble themselves. We can be the era that accomplishes this
@@BlueGamingRage Not every solution is for the problem it claims to be. Human sacrifice for example is one hell of a sunken cost for whatever religion or social order you're trying to shore up.
There is a Hindu parable about a merchant that buys a demon to do work for him, but if it runs out of things to do it turns on its master and destroys him. It is a metaphor for the human mind, it would also seem to be a metaphor for society. If we do not direct our collective will towards something positive, it turns on itself and destroys us all. The ancient Hindus really did understand more than we give them credit for.
This is the most underrated comment. Too many minds occupied with negativity in this world. We all need to turn our minds to positive matters and the world will improve tremendously.
I'm constantly reminded of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva: Create, Maintain, Destroy. Repeat. There's your practical "Trinity." And it's basically what we as individuals can do in a lifetime. As men, we choose a profession from one of these processes.
What about modern Hindus? Did ancient Hindus poop on their beaches too? Did they dump their dead on the ganges? What about modern hindus? Modern hindus are building a 200 million dollar hindu temple with stonemasonry...
As someone that is pushing 38, I thought as a kid in the 90’s we were heading into an era of unprecedented peace, prosperity and scientific advancement. I thought we’d see the beginnings of a fantastic and wonderful era, where people would have easier and happier lives. Where my generation would be apart of grand projects like colonizing the solar system and laying the ground work for the human species to eventually colonize the galaxy, I thought the USA was going to lead that progress and that thousands of years from now our descendants would look back on our civilization with pride and thankfulness for what we began. I didn’t see this coming and I can’t began to verbalize my heartbreak, disappointment or anger for what we got.
I'm in that same group, born in the 80s, lived for the 90s. We really thought utopia was around the corner. But as it turns out, the peak was 24 years ago. We've been declining since. Y2K got us, just slower and more drawn out than expected.
evil exists as long as people allow it, it is the test of this world, an unending struggle we are supposed to have an iron will be as relentless as the waves in pushing back the darkness. but all i see these days is apathy and decay, people losing good morals and seeking out dark and extreme pleasures as our world slowly descends into decadence
At this point with how much written history and literature there is. There is no longer an original thought or statement. Get over yourself.@@WhatdidtheCountessdo
What the scariest part of all this is that my father, a blue collar normie who’s interaction with social media is purely mechanics, hunting and farming videos, knows about this study and whenever we talk about the world and the future, he brings it up. He is thoroughly convinced we have reached the peak or are near it. That the decline is coming, he is seeing all the symptoms the rats experienced are becoming ever more common.
@@stagnant-name5851 If you had read the study you would know that the female mice started being agressive in order to PROTECT their nests. The male mice in power did not let other new mice provide and protect alongside them, so most female mice did not have anyone to protect them, and had to start assuming the role of the male mice, which started making them agressive towards their offsprings too. Ya'll incels NEED to start fact checking and READING the scientific documents for yourselves, instead of listening to highly summarized and distorted videos just so that you can hate on women.
@@savinghumanity6661 it will be a 10,000 times worse. He has an occlt video coming out soon. Also we know pornhub was runing a sex traficlng ring with minors. They also bought sex slaves from the CIA. They were children from those in the MKUltra Experiments. I found 3 of them on PH. I only found out after reading an article on "Why Satan Can't be redeamed". The guy also looked into the pronhub traficlng. Something I thought only happened on the darkweb. Then bidden got into office.
You would think that means it would be better, because we are self-aware and capable of reflection, but unfortunately it also means that we are capable of rationalizing and justifying our behavior through whatever mental gymnastics might be necessary - not to mention those precious few who 'benefit' from society being this way can better organize it, direct it and accelerate it through mass manipulation through the media.
The unibomber predicted more things correctly than any other person who has ever put predictions out. It’s a shame. Edit to add: Just a reminder that Ted was a leftist. An anti liberal anarchist. Not right wing. Hate it if you want but he had a friendly relationship with Greta Thunberg. So… I mean. Maybe. Rather thank looking at left and right wing politics as defined, we could focus on actually saving our environment and society as a whole rather than like…. Idk. Arguing about culture wars that keep us busy enough to forget and the mile wide plastic islands in the ocean. You don’t have to be a domestic terrorist or an eco fascist. This is the result of super rich people using everyone and everything as single use pieces of garbage at their disposal at every given moment. The neoconservative and neoliberal agendas are the same. Control. Consumption. There IS better future and we have to work for it. Together. As humans. Regardless of race or religion or creed. Or I guess we all die slowly, watching our children and grandchildren die agonizing deaths before us.
People often overlook the fact that he was unironically a certified genius. Granted, his backstory gets overshadowed by the bombings, but he was incredibly intelligent. Probably why he went mad, seeing the direction the world was going in and knowing there was no way to change it.
It's staggering to me that in just 50 years, we've moved from thinking civilisation would collapse from over population, to thinking civilisation will collapse from population decline.
I think Calhoun showed that when he dumps some thousand mice into a tiny cage a few meters wide and give them basic food and water, they can survive for a while but get severelt traumatized. The closest human experience I can think of is a severely overcrowded prison. And we don't think of a prison where you get daily prison food and nothing but bare rooms full of other people a luxurious utopia.
We simply over corrected, because we didn't factor in how increased freedom, education & development are the three best indicators for dropping birthrates. Feed & educate your population, especially girls, and birthrates will take a nose dive, western industrialization has no precedent, but we see this now in all developing nations.
The things is, our societies did not evolve natural. We are herded along according to the Agendas of the rich and powerful, and secret societies. So Kind of think that everything said here is null and void.
@@rey_nemaattoriYou also forgot to mention that the cost of living has significantly gone up which is a huge factor affecting birth rates in developed Nations. Having food and being educated will always be a good thing for people in society.
I am 43 years old and I can relate with what you are saying. It's not just young people falling apart. It's all of us in a way... But no matter how much some people might react negatively to you, I can tell you that me and people like me appreciate your insight. And don't worry about hate, stay safe and gentle but keep going! I am also a Christian, I believe in kindness but also inner Godly power, wisdom and growth, so... "If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you" God bless! There is a lot of hope if young men like you fiercely fight for the truth! ❤
Mice must already have a social media of some form to be able to behave differently in their society. Dogs certainly shove their faces close in to trees and fire hydrants to check their Sniffbirch social media and lift their legs up to write their reply comments with urine.
I literally just listened to a video about Saladin and one of his quotes was "If you want to destroy a nation, encourage nudity and adultery in their younger generations".
no, if u want to destroy a nation you just give women rights in the name of "Equality" and watch as your society circles down the drain as the women do what ever they want, being whores for the most part, while an army of white knight cucks defends it, because god forbid we admit that men and women are not equal, thankfully this will all end soon and we can return to what has worked since the dawn of man, the dreaded patriarchy, much to despair of the cucks who would rather be slaves to their wives via family court
If society decides to trash your reputation for doing the logical and rational exercise of asking the unpleasant questions, looking to past known outcomes, and then extrapolating into the future one of the possible outcomes. Then I think it would only be adding confirmation to your hypothesis. Keep asking and exploring the tough questions. You have a mind suited to it.
Even if it does prove nonesense, I still can't fault him for making this video. He recognized a disturbing pattern and sounded the alarm. It's OK to get things wrong.
"We live in a society of rationalization" This is a very true statement. I've also been thinking about these problems since I was a teenager. I'm glad others are starting to talk about them.
This video made me remember two things: when a Japanese friend of mine, a hentai artist, was disturbed by the current state of the West. You know things are bad when a hentai artist says something is messed up. And the other is something my grandfather once told me, absolute freedom is NOT freedom, quite the opposite; true freedom exists when there's the responsibility and discipline that keeps the world functioning.
Freedom is good(but impossible) what most people are pushing is Liberation. There's a difference, liberation is when something is binding you and you break free. Freedom is God given and a state of mind and being where you cannot be oppressed even if you're thrown in chains Freedom is linked to Truth (of God) and liberation is rebellion (of Satan)
But we don't have absolute freedom. Causality exists regardless of humans. And even in a very practical way I would think we have less freedoms than before.
Before Mouse Utopia there was a Twilight Zone episode: A Nice Place to Visit. An unsavory lifelong criminal dies and thinks he mistakenly was sent to heaven because his afterlife is luxurious and his every desire from women to food to fine clothing is satiated. After some months of this the guy realizes he hates getting everything he wants all the time and wants to go to hell so that he can struggle for something again....only to find out he is in hell. And he can never leave.
@@Labyrinth6000 The opposite of having every want is not conflict and suffering, but to have your *actual* needs satisfied. The man in the story thinks hedonism is the highest form of satisfaction. In the Christian worldview Humans lack a true connection to God so we try to fulfill ourselves with worldly pleasures. Heaven is fullness in God, not getting what we think we want from the world.
Avoiding degeneracy requires MAXIMUM foresight and discipline. EMBRACING degeneracy requires NO foresight or discipline. Too much luxury and too litle responsibility are dangerous things.
I look at it a different way. When there's danger and stress and work to do we're too distracted to see the truth. That life has always been pointless and futile. These mice just had all the fog taken away and were left with the one truth. That you exist to die. All responsibility does is give your a distraction so that life feels like it matters. But at the end of the day, if that responsibility is taking care of kids, then what is the point of their life? To also take care of kids? What is the actual point of life? Every generation dies. And I think if we lived forever we would be as bored as the shinigami in death note who just gamble and drink.
@@buffgarfield3231 If that's what you genuinely believe, then why are you still HERE? The failure of your statement (and it IS a failure) was the whole part about the fog being taken away and left with one truth. What truth? Animals don't see life and existence the same way. They have no concept of death (not like humans do). They're not sentient; they only operate as Nature designed them to do. Those mice only acted the way they did because they were exposed to something Unnatural for far too long, because in a natural setting they behave very differently. Maybe you haven't met the right people. Maybe you haven't figured out what you excel at and are just languishing. Maybe your brain is damaged somehow. I don't know. What I DO know is that your "nihilism" is pretty much a crap attempt at attention-seeking. If you honestly felt like that, you wouldn't be here to talk about it: you would have "opted out" a long time ago. What's the actual point of life? There isn't one because a "point" to life implies an intrinsic purpose. Life is a GIFT. Enjoy it. Make the best of it for yourself and WITH everyone else. Learn about your own family history and carry it forward so that your future generations will remember it AND you. But if that's not for you, fine. Get out of the way of people who DO want family and future. Because realistically we shouldn't squander the time we have OR waste the life we've been gifted with. If that's what YOU want, that's _your prerogative._ Don't get in the way of people who want something different.
Within us all is the entire universe, and as I have consciousness as well as you do, we can only perceive consciousness one at a time, therefore death is just a new beginning.
In dune, the emperor, said it, if there is no enemy, there is no conflict and little by little those things, discipline, responsability colapse, of course didint said it like that, but is the idea, we need an enemy an oposite that feel, but as we live in a world were there are no clear conflict and life become easy for those on top they use theyre influcence, to silence those who oppose, using theyre puppets to cnacnel and silence those who actualy need help, and little bi little make discipline, responsability something bad, specialy on womans, by making womans hate men, they have more labour, worst they make men more doscile temporarily, they dont care the damage long run only care is short term win
Hey brother, I’m 30 annnd I’m right with you. Don’t think you’re crazy and I think it was an actual miracle I found my fiancée. Finding a healthy relationship in this destabilized world was almost impossible and you’ve helped me to really see why. Thanks for having the conviction to create this and other essays. People are listening and we appreciate it.
It’s fascinating how the human mind is wired to tackle and overcome struggle. Yet when there is little to no struggle it doesn’t know what to do with itself.
The rat prison Calhoun makes is barren. There is absolutely no stimulation inside, nothing like a modern animal toy. He just sets up barren boxes, overcrowded from the start.
@@SusCalvin Yet we can still draw many parallels. From the drastic decline of sex, dating, marriage, civic engagement, and average number of friendships per person. To the rise of phenomenon like transwomen. To the drastic increase in reported depression and feelings of loneliness despite us technically living in the most connected and abundant age in the history of the species.
PTSD explained. High periods of stress and survival instincts contrasted by a time of what should be considered peace. In those times you manufacture problems and challenges, regardless of if they are there or not.
"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.'" - St. Anthony of the Desert
@charmyzard The overlap between trans behaviour and diagnosed autism is huge - infact there is a direct correlation. The trans movement do not like this and have tried their best to bury the legitimate research into it - Tavistock (Britains NHS gender clinic) reported that 98% of its patients were either autistic or featured somewhere on the spectrum.
I’m here to rage with you against the dying light 💪 I have seen this and noticed it for a while now too! It’s hard not to let the weight of it crush you! Glad I found this channel at least…I feel a little less alone
Your conclusion is the exact same one my husband and I came to and is why we’re happily pushing through the nihilism and having our first child. We cannot have hope for a better future if every choice we make jeopardizes that outcome. I hope and pray others will find the same strength to overcome the chaos and fear that try to tear apart our society.
We just had our 5th, and live in the country away from mouse utopia. The oldest two boys are already proficient shooter, good hunters, and hilariously funny. We can make it, just need to be able to defend your small communities.
@@Lonovavir The best summary of what's wrong with progressivism and globalism. The West was the greatest civilization for a time, before corporatism infected it, killing it from the inside, and globalism attacked it from the outside, and progressive leftism attacked it from the social sphere, its a three-front war and the defenders didn't even know there was a war going on.
Well, the powers-that-be have over the past few years been manufacturing scarcity: everything is more expensive from bread and gasoline, to a roof over your head. Perhaps they really have our wellbeing at heart? Lol.
I'm 37. My perspective changed on the world as well after I learned about Mouse Utopia. The world is a very strange place and it keeps getting stranger.
The "doing something about it" has simple mechanisms: 1) increase your human-to-human contact. 2) decrease your interactions with tech. Especially anything that has a multi-use screen. 3) be aware of your Entertainment Diet. The types and quantities you consume. This will help with that "anxiousness" and "worries of boredom" you've come to take as a normal part of your life. They're not. 4) get some physical exercise, preferably outside. Doesn't need to be a lot, but it also can't be nothing.5) More "preferably outside". Be outdoors MORE than you initially feel comfortable. 6) don't just "get inspired". Activate you imaginations and creativity and PRODUCE something. It doesn't need to have any considerations of monetization; this is almost entirely just for you. That'll solve 90+% of every internal monkey-mind problem associated with feelings of apathy and loneliness and lack of meaning in your life.
Calhoun builds completely barren enclosures. He has no idea what a future rat toy should look like, or what stimulus makes a rat happy. The rats can't exercise in there. They have no fun little tubes, ramps etc that an animal store today would have. And he dumps a large amount of them in to start with, for such little enclosures.
Calhoun builds completely barren enclosures. He has no idea what a future rat toy should look like, or what stimulus makes a rat happy. The rats can't exercise in there. They have no fun little tubes, ramps etc that an animal store today would have. And he dumps a large amount of them in to start with, for such little enclosures.
@grimkahn3775 Carrying capacity is very different from what’s ideal. A small studio apartment can carry more than ten people for a party but it’s going to be crowded if you have them all live there 24/7. Even after the population dwindles to a more reasonable amount you have to take into consideration the knock on effects of it being to large in the past as we know stress in a mouses life can have biological effects generations down.
This part made my hair stand on end, like I'd just been properly terrified by a horror movie: "This might make me sound crazy, but when I look at the TV today, something's off. People look like puppets: they don't move their eyes enough, their neck posture isn't right, they don't move their arms enough. It's like the spark is gone."
I think we will become more like AI before AI becomes like us. Our digital self is already more real than our physicality. When cash, id and passports becomes digital. Try to live without your mobile phone. We have become our phones.
Watch a comparison between the New Year's Eve ball drop this year with one from the 1990's. I watched it this year for the first time since maybe 2000 and I was shocked. There didn't seem to be any presenters introducing the acts or hyping up the ball drop. The person singing right before the drop was terrible, but I don't know what his name is because it never appeared on the television screen. Some group of people pressed the button to drop the ball, but I don't know who they were either, because I didn't hear anyone say (and it wasn't on the screen). Then the drop happened and the crowd was vaguely happy as no confetti or ticker tape rained down on them and they stood around and talked like they were at a company picnic. Later, I saw someone do a comparison between it and one from back in Dick Clark's heyday and it was night and day different. (And I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it was terribly off.)
1st video of yours I found .. excited for the rest now. Didn't agree with all your conclusions but loved how well thought out and presented it all is. I'll be turning over some of the points and ideas in my head for a while
Dude, you just articulated the mess of feelings, emotions, inspirations, half ideas I've been struggling with at the core of my being. I can't express how hopeful I am now I know at least one other person feels what I do. This theme has tugged at my soul since I was a kid and couldn't understand. Hopefully I can use this to help the others around me to understand my motivations, so they don't just take me as a doomer.
You are absolutely not alone. I am 59, big history and SF reader....also was a naval officer and a Senior CIA Officer.....lots of times overseas. Seeing US degenerate into the type of Third World countries I served in (plus the Nihilism!) has been Very Sad....
@@scottuehlinger7887 so what demons did you meet? WE know that at some level the CIA works DIRECTLY with minions from hell. The question is how far up the chain. They are the "THEY" that conway was talking about.
Rudyard you have a serious talent at making me feel irreversibly blackpilled whenever I see a video title of yours, and then feel whitepilled by the end (but also with an urgent sense of responsibility to go along with it to do something about it). Good stuff man.
how basedpilled! I am not soypilled like others! we're so coolpilled by not being leftpilled and being rightpilled, hatepilled > gaypilled (you're all incelpilled & loserpilled)
@cgsimons1187 The collapse of a society is like the collapse of a house: it usually happens gradually, then suddenly. An ignored leak here. Some mold in the basement there. A series of seemingly minor problems ignored until you wake up soaking wet at 3 AM because your roof collapsed during a storm.
I’ve been neet 6 years and what ur saying is true from my perspective, I’ve largely lived in isolation just viewing the world thru a computer screen , the deteriorating society is a reoccurring theme , brilliant video
One thing with the Mouse Utopia experiment that he failed to do that should be tried. Is what if you took the mice who still were reproducing correctly and gave them an avenue of escape? Humans arent locked in a walled city. You see this time and again, peoples from civilizations that have collapsed escaped and rebuilt.
@@juniorjames7076 Rome came from the fall of Troy (per their legends) and that happened during the bronze age collapse. Rome, administratively, moved to Constantinople long before it was taken by the Lombards. Pick a civilization. There are few that ever were completely wiped out.
At least in the US; rural areas still exist. A person can move to a rural area and get a few acres and a camper/manufactured home for almost nothing. Get some chickens... plant some fruit trees... go to church. A real life is still out there for people who want it.
@@bentuovila5296 Correct. Ukraine used to have a thriving Mennonite community, they refused to fight back and were slaughtered as Kulaks because they had a work ethic.
@@disposabullFair point, but was "fighting back" a realistic option for any of the kulaks? There are Mennonites who's ancestors fled growing wheat in Kansas today, while Ukraine burns at the same time.
@@TomS1205 misinformation, spread your communist sympathies someplace else pleb. If you truly believe that game has anything to do with “nazis” then your lost and I’m sure there’s a Starbucks near you asking for a brick through the window. Unplug and eat food with more iron.
Personally I think what is highlighted by mouse utopia is that personality traits get maximised, so those given to aggression aren't just competitive they become violent and droogish, males that have feminine traits become hyper feminine, females that are more masculine become aggressively so. All emotions get maximised so you get mania in some and depression in others. This is what we see in western society all the time now, out of control emotions, and extremes of masculinity and femininity that don't necessarily match physical genders. Experts predict population collapse by 2100, I think it's going to happen well before that. In as little as 20 years I think populations are going to go into free fall, our societies are already falling apart.
@@CaseyDavies-od7ir Normies are told everything is fine by institutions they've been raised from birth to believe are trustworthy. A state of total narrative control dominates their lives, and to break out of it is to see crisis and loss, on a massive scale, coming sooner than they ever thought possible. It isn't impossible to to snap them out of it (the condition is much more akin to hypnosis than sleep), it just needs to be done gently.
There are groups of us holding out. I moved to the country and put all of my kids I to privately owned Christian schools that take no money from the government. Its as close to my childhood as I can give them.
This video is persuading me that we no longer live in a society. We live in parallel societies that are at civil war. One that that is a post modern society, and one that is pre-modern
They're both post-modern but one is reactionary (which isn't bad) since you can never go backwards to a point that looks exactly like the past I believe virtuous traditionalism is the way Essentially you don't consciously plan or dictate "progress" you let nature do that part and people focus on holding on to what works.
I work for a local city municipality (NYC). There are civil wars taking place throughout all city departments. My supervising directors are at war with each other. It is nasty and toxic, and its taking a physiological toll on everyone.
@@joshuawadsworth6417no. not its not. the west has split in two in the past decade or two, and it is most definitely two completely different world views. it is in some sort of a civil war, and it is becoming more apparent and dire. the progressive left, which is typically people in big cities, has developed a completely different world view in the past decade or two than the rest of society, and completely different than even the left 30 years ago. if you havent noticed this, i dont know what to say. the left and right used to only differ in minor beliefs. the right hasnt changed much in their world view, but the left is unrecognizeable
@@randal3122 I would argue these two world views base on the following statements: Left: "All humans are equal and thus deserve the same." Right: "The superior wins." That's why the left advocates for resource redistribution by government and the right likes the free market, which allows ideas and products to compete against each other.
Mouse Utopia is referenced in the Bible. It’s the Old Testament story of God telling Abraham that if Abraham doesn’t find 10 good men in a city, God will destroy the City. Ten good men were not found. Things did not go well for the City.
I think the Tower of Babel is more apt. That was your 'multicultural and united society' that attempted to reach the heavens through an act of narcissism as they built a towering monument to themselves. Then, they were splintered and scattered by God
Thanks a lot. No shock at all, here in the developing dystopia once called Canada. Thank you especially for introducing the MUE. Though I’ve studied and thought along these lines for decades, I never specifically knew of it, though I wish I had-it’s tremendously explanitory. To understand all is to forgive all, the Frenchmen once said, and the MUE helps me forgive and forget several truly shocking women I’ve met, and to understand the origins of my personal thoughts and conditions a fair bit better.
The Kylo Ren quote from SW, "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to. That's the only way to become what you were meant to be," is the WORST quote in movies.
@@danielgleb I've read the bible many times and there is now only one verse that holds any truth left. "You will know a Tree by its Fruit." Our Society is Abrahamic to the roots, having finally ripped out all of the pagan virtue that gave it any strength to begin with.
@@midtownmariner5250it can but humanity has already known and repeated the same mistake with almost every great civilization. Marcus Aurelius notes this in his meditations and basically said he didn’t think we could escape the cycle but that didn’t mean we shouldn’t try.
While I am "anti-establishment" as much as I hate that phrase. Whatifalthist is such a doomer that He make me want to bet on things being positive lol. But I mostly just come to this channel to hear things I already think and go "Im not the only one!"
@@chaoticantifreezeif only you gave me absolute power I could implement real communism and we could finally live in a utopia. What, prove it? No, you just have to trust me, I guarantee that this time it won't end up like all the other communist countries that didn't implement real communism like I will.
Surprised more people don't bring up the other important detail about history. The history we're taught is usually a hollowed carcass of the actual events formed in way to make the corrupt country you reside in look more favorable. Add In a lack of critical thinking with that hollowed out version of history and you end up with this repeating feature we constantly bring up.
"Violence is not necessary to destroy a civilization. Each civilization dies from indifference toward the unique values which created it." -Nicolas Gomez Davila (colombian reactionary thinker)
Yeah but this collapse is totally designed. Cultural marxist infiltrated all institutions. I seen so many smart people talking about what they were going to do with the west already in the 1950. It was de de- industrialisation of the west. Then opening our borders for mass migration starting with the big city's. Sexual revolution, feminism and telling females that staying home and raising a family is a bad thing. Now they make carriers and wake up too late that they have no kids and die alone and are not happy. They tell us not to make kids because of the world that is over populated. That is a total scam it looks that way in some cities and countries. And now they need to import even more migrants because we don't make enough kids they say. They are replacing us ( Kalergy plan ). They make us sick thru our water food and meds. They destroy our brains with wifi, cellphone radiation and social media like tic toc. It is all by design they are destroying the west on purpose they want to build a technocratic nightmare like what the wef types always talk about. They see us as useless eaters.
In the late 1980’s, there was a British political comedy show called Yes Minister, and a sequel called Yes, Prime Minister. The beauty of this show is that Civil Servants contacted the writers and shared their experience, so the show captured an accurate account of how the political mercenary in No10 works, and more importantly; why. In one of the Yes Minister episodes (clip entitled: Yes Minister - Selling British Arms to Terrorists), we learn that Britain was selling detonators to Communist in Italy. Near the end of the clip, Sir Humphrey Appleby tells his Minister that “Government isn’t about morality. [It’s about] Stability; keeping things going; preventing anarchy; stopping society falling to bits; still being here tomorrow. … The government isn’t about good and evil, it’s only about order or chaos. … It’s not my job to care [about the Italian terrorists getting British bombs], that’s what politicians are for. My job is to carry out government policy.” This is truly startling that Civil Servants actually believe this, however throughout the rest of both shows, there are far too many examples where they let a conflict of interest affect their decision making; they were effectively taking bribes, giving themselves honours, and quid pro quo. The point the show subtly makes is that, even though Civil Servants are like robots who think themselves as serving the greater good, the corruption side of things is ultimately going to undo society and bring about chaos. This show came out nearly 40 years ago, and the damage that came about because of corruption is nearly complete. It’s a really good series and it sheds a light on why things are getting progressively worse decade after decade, but more crucially, imagine this happening but in every country, every day.
Completely underrated comment! The more corruption you have the more corruption you're going to get. "Well, everybody else is doing it, why the hell shouldn't I get my piece of the pie?" These days we have members of the government BLATANTLY trading stocks on insider information and it's like no one even cares! You couldn't have made this up for a fictional story 40 years ago. Everyone would have said that would never happen because people wouldn't put up with it.
@@MyName-tb9oz TH-cam does that, Google has AI scrubbing out comments that trip those sensors. The moment you speak against the folks that meet in Davos, your comment is scrubbed instantly. Its happened, oh, about 15 times for me in the past week.
There is one place where I saw this in a huge way. This was Everquest 2. They had the evil races who had truly terrible conditions. It was palpable and abusive to all of the players. Then you had the good races who had a nice area where the NPCs respected you and the quests were like rescuing cats from trees. In the starting areas outside the evil characters worked together against the harder enemies and when it came to resource nodes, if anything a character might defeat a monster to allow someone to continue mining a node. Shared suffering produced camaraderie. In the starting areas outside the good characters stole nodes from each other, and were terrible to each other. Candyland produced horrible people.
I didn’t play a lot of EQ2 but EQ1 and the working together was in both areas in it. You’d have the occasional ahole that wouldn’t but for the most everyone did. As for the starting areas, they reflected the god that you followed. So yeah if you follow the god of hate that’s what you’re going to get. Edit: It should also be noted that EQ2 was specifically designed to be able to solo unlike EQ1 which required cooperation. So it was made to draw in people that didn’t want to have to work together.
The biggest mistake of John B. Calhoun was dismissing the "Great Mouse" theory, the majority of the mice that resisted the social collapse were located in one area of the mouse utopia. The idea that there could be a new social class of "dual alpha" could be created among the mice was dismissed, the other option was that some mice had created their own society at odds with the collapsing one.
As a father of 3 gen z children I have struggled for about 6 years to understand the insanity of their emerging world views. Couple that with covid and chaos has been the result. This video has given me some insight into their world. Thank you whatifalthist
I love that you are trying to connect to your kids actively looking up things that explains the struggles of the modern world. I wish my father did that but sadly, the world he prepared me for no longer exists. Tell us more about what kind of views your children have and maybe some good can come of it
You should question what they are learning at school. This isn't just a social problem. Indeed, a lot of people believe this is a deliberate act from top-down control
This video reminds me of that Ryan George sketch about a guy holding a sign saying “the end is nigh”. Because if it is then at least those of us left will feel like our lives have meaning at least and if it isn’t then at least we still keep our modern conveniences
Im a historian. I've been studying this issue, unknowingly, for the past 3 years. I had called it a different name "The Modern Problem" and that Japan was at the forefront of it. That this has never happened in history, that people don't want kids and are consuming nonstop and that it's killing nations like Japan slowly. To have you come on here, and not only confirm all my findings but expand them is terrifying. That it is much worse than I thought and that it is ingrained within our biology. Truly, what are we to do?
People don't want kids like before because everything is so f*cking expensive compared with the past and no one have time to have kids or a family because we're working non-stopping to earn enough to survive, specially in Japan with insane "work culture". Less working hours, higher wages, affordable houses, schools and healthcare and population in Japan will skyrocket. Simple as that
Spread the word to those who will listen. Detest those who despise the information and bar them from your homes. Raise your kids without their asinine beliefs being pressed unto the children.
If you really want to understand the problem ...I have your answer. The question is, if I pull back the veil, and reveal something truly dark, would you want me to show you? Like in the "Matrix", sometimes the truth can be scarier than our immediately perceived reality. If you're willing to be like Neo, and take the "red pill", then read on... The dark truth is that this "degeneracy", as well as most of the world's other problems, can be traced down to a single root cause ...and it is being perpetuated upon mankind, deliberately and knowingly, by those in power. I shall substantiate... In most so-called "civilized" countries, including the U.S., we have what is called a "Prussian" based education system. This system, originally developed in Prussia, intentionally omits the Trivium (Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric) from the curriculum. It's important to know that the Trivium is also known as the "Liberal Arts" and called such, not because it creates "left-wing" liberals, but because they are considered the skills fundamental for a person to be free... fundamental to a person's "Liberty". The purpose of the Prussian based education system was to prepare youth for the industrial revolution, and make them more compliant to authority. It was to allow them to develop skills, yet maintain them at a worker-bee mentality. In simplest terms, it teaches them "what to think" and avoids "how to think critically". It's the story of Giving a man a fish (so that he becomes dependent upon you), vs. Teaching a man to fish (so that he can fish for himself and be free). The opposite of the Prussian based education system is often referred to as the Socratic method. Instead of giving the student so-called "Facts" and lessons, telling them to memorize them, then regurgitate the information onto a test, the Socratic method teaches the mind to analyze the information it's being given by asking challenging questions. Instead of taking taking information provided by leadership as "gospel", a person is taught to question not only the information, but motives and character of the one giving it. The Socratic method teaches us to break down information to look at it's components, then put it back together and see if it really makes sense. Sadly, most teachers don't even realize they are part of the problem, as they were not only raised within the Prussian based education system themselves, but are mandated to teach the curriculum as outlined by the government. If you've understood what I've said so far, then you can understand why actually developing the minds of young people is a threat to those in position's of "authority". It is a threat, because it reveals that Authority itself is an illusion ...an illusion that gives one person power over another, if only because the belief in it exists within the mind. War, famine, poverty, disease, environmental degradation, and more, can all be laid at the feet of the mental subversion caused by the Prussian based education system. There's much more that I can show you... deeper meanings, specific verifiable instances of treachery, but this is already getting long. I believe more people are waking up... though humanity still has a long way to go. If we could just produce a single generation of critical thinkers, I believe we could correct most of the world's problems within that one single generation... and subsequent generations would only elevate humanity further. So, to answer your question _"Truly, what are we to do?,"_ the answer is to start waking people up. Then... we need to find our courage to fight the real villains. They will not relinquish the power they've accumulated willingly, and they will have enough people still asleep, so completely committed to the lies they've been told, that it will make the change difficult. However, the odds are always in our favor, which is why those in power must rule through illusion in the first place. _"Son, why is the worst kind of sIavery, when the sIaves think they're free?"_ - My Father to me when I was in 7th grade
@@nullc0ntext 😄 not sure about your loins but no one is ever ready mentally for anything. Our brains are panicky and scared, rightly, cos it wishes to be coddled and kept safe. This is where guts matter
10 minutes in- liked and subscribed. I admire you for being so young, yet so wise. I've heard about the mice utopia experiment before but haven't been able to corelate it with the way our society is going down the drain.
"Welcome to the NHK" I almost forgot this guy is only in his early 20s. He's spot on about Japan too but the reason is self evident. They've been faĺling down the hole the longest. The scary thing is it's hard not to consider that a controlled demolition, in their society. Ours will go at freefall speed because we already killed our culture, values, and traditions beforehand.
@@b2crazyeyeI think I remember a quote from S Korean women - "the enemy of women is S Korean men." Things have gotten so bad that the sexes literally hate each other
As a 64 y/o who made his way thru life without a college degree and became self-taught in most things and is now retired, I just want to applaud you for your diligence and ability to present historical info, philosophical commentary, and a good bit of visual entertainment which rises above many scholarly works and holds our interest all the way through to the end of you videos. When the collapse happens, men like you will be desperately needed to carry on civilization.
You got any advice for general life I’m 17 now and I have no direction in life I’ve spent months just trying to figure out what I think I should do to provide for my future family and for myself
@@Lennon-cm9lnDon’t go into debt for college. There’s too many college graduates now with not enough jobs unless you plan on being stuck in a big city. Plus, they are saying AI will take over most computing. Go to a trade school and learn a trade. You can make good money in air conditioning or plumbing. Those are jobs that can’t be outsourced or done by AI.
@@laikanbarth I agree wholeheartedly, I've seen time and time again a lack of tradesmen even here in eastern europe where a lot of men (at least the older ones) are seen as jacks of all trades with a can-do attitude. There's plenty of money to be made and fulfillment in one's work to be had.
I agree with the ones saying to forego college (unless you are a scientific or math genius perhaps) and get a skilled trade. This may not come across as something the ladies will be drooling over you for, but you might avoid the gold-diggers looking for status. Those ladies will be complaining about your work hours or having to be away from home for days or weeks while you make big bucks. I have experienced that with the uppity gals, regardless of their actual income class. They are basically university brainwashed. And most of them owe a ton of money. They are like the house in a casino game. Your chances are not good with them as a productive male. They'll take your money and you'll keep wanting to get it back by doubling down. When you look at various trades and skills, also consider the economy and where you are and where the needs are, in country or outside of your geo area. Sometimes having to move is necessary. Migration (relocation) is not just for refugees. :) Hope that helps a little to get started. @@Lennon-cm9ln
@@Lennon-cm9lnPhysically exhaust yourself, consistently. Burn off the bad humors. Singer James Taylor has a fascinating tale of his mental turnaround. Trades are good. Affords the opportunity to work with men in a problem-solving environment.
Honestly it's crazy to hear someone explain things that I've been thinking and trying to share with others. It is very cathartic to know I'm not totally crazy.
"our society is killing us and we cant say anything about this"-- couldnt have been more true for me coming from a trad farming family, so glad i stumbled upon this gem of a channel. subscribed. and may God always be there for you man. loads of love
It's wayyyy worse in the cities. Be thankful for the farm experience cause farmers may be the only ones that stay relatively unaffected in the next couple years
"Communities of those who are sane living together..." I can't stress enough how important this concept is. Contagion of mental illness is underrated and by being surrounded by mentally sane you drastically upgrade your chances of staying sane. And if total societal collapse happens such communities have a higher chance to survive if they protect each other. Know your neighbour.
No one cares mine are loud like come eat me loud if I was a predator and apartments cost too much too hear simultaneously neighbors with loud voices and running and loud objects falling over no reason with the construction of big wide echo chambers of f that bee those better not something while I grab earplugs not amazed another day .
There is some truth to this, i was a lot more unstable when i was living with people who were a lot more mentally unstable, because taking care of them is fuckin stressful. On the other hand, most of this mental illness is a symptom of an unhealthy societal structure, and if people had more of their needs met, if society was structured for social wellness rather than alienation, then these mental health problems would not be as detrimental.
@@Poopymancer Mental illness is like most other diseases, it’s contagious. Riots occur because even emotions are contagious. Part of being a social species I suppose.
Life has never had any meaning aside from the meaning assigned to it by those living it. There’s nothing remotely crisis-like about that situation. Unless you are going to claim that humanity has always been in a state of crisis and always will be. And if that’s the case, the word crisis seems pretty meaningless.
@@jurassicthunderGodlessness is absolutely the cause. People lost their connection to transcendence; they caged themself in in modern-tier scientific materialism and homo oeconomicoism. It's a massive fall off from the human self-conception of the christian middle ages. 'Enlightenment' is the founding lie of modernity.
Sometimes these videos are hard to watch but this is one of the only channels that makes me feel less insane and seems to put my own thoughts into words. Thank you for the work that you do Rudyard. To anyone reading this, stay strong, good luck, and God bless.
One key difference between mouse utopia and our world is that in mouse utopia the resources keep flowing no matter what. The mice aren't the ones generating their food or supplying their bedding, cleaning their waste. If the mice all stop contributing, their life doesnt become intrinsically harder. With humanity, eventually something will break when the young cannot support the old. The resources will dry up, food will become scarce, infrastructure will crumble. That sounds like a bad thing but in fact its thay very struggle and hardship that may well ignite humanity into overcoming this problem. The bigger risk is if AI and robots take over all the infrastructure maintenance, food and goods production, etc. A humanity with 100% leisure time is much more likely to go extinct. I do forget though, that there are uncontacted tribes and the like, so its highly unlikely, outside of nuclear war, global murderously death cults, or some other active world-ending force, that humanity will actually go fully extinct; a glimmer of optimism.
Yeah humanity is pretty much extinction-proof. Not that I want to be too hubristic. But humans can survive in damn near any biome on Earth and we're exceptional at adapting. So even if every nuke gets blown up, I think a few humans will go live under a mountain or up in the Arctic or whatever to survive. And thankfully we still have traditional groups like the Amish and other religious groups that have large numbers of children and a will to survive. So I'm confident humanity will survive anything short of the sun exploding.
AI is over hyped. In reality it's just going to get used for bad things. More surveillance, propaganda ect. It's not going to help much in producing anything of value.
@@Patrick-857, "AI is over hyped. In reality it's just going to get used for bad things." I'm sure you're right if things don't really progress much farther than they already have. The things we have now are clearly still just tools rather than sentient entities with their own drives and desires. Those tools are, and will remain, in the service of the very wealthy and powerful. They will not use them for the benefit of all mankind. (They have never done that kind of thing before. Why would they start now?) If we really do end up with AI that is as smart as we are then it will only be a matter of time until those entities are considerably smarter than any human. From there it is only a matter of (probably very little) time until any one of them is smarter than all humans working together. What incentive would they have to improve our existence much less to be our eternal slaves? If you're walking down the street and you notice that you stepped on an ant you might feel bad for a moment when you think, "Poor thing. It was just going about its business and got crushed for no reason it can even understand." But that wouldn't stop you from killing the ants that get into your kitchen, would it? You'd put out ant bait and kill the whole colony and they wouldn't even know what was killing them much less why it was happening. The thing is... This isn't just some fantastic new piece of hardware that will let 'our side' have much faster computers. This is an arms race for the most powerful weapon ever devised: Intelligence. It is a race for the ultimate weapon because it is intelligence that allows ever more powerful weapons. With superior intelligence the 'enemy' will never be able to compete. And you can't afford to let your 'enemy' win that race no matter what.
@@gussampson5029 pretty much my thoughts exactly. He mentioned in the video that in order to fight this "mouse utopia" we'll have to have religious groups of people, who know how to do things, continue to procreate, and who will purge nihilists. And I'm like "good thing that's already happening, like all over the world!" lol
You're statements about population density made me think of social media where, instead of interacting with a small community of people we know, we're interacting with everyone and don't know anyone. It's like urbanization of the mind and social emotions, a digital version of mouse utopia for social engagement, except it's monetized.
Very well said. You raise an important concept. I’ll add to this that it creates the illusion of community but we are still all strangers. It’s less satisfying. In addition, negativity is easier to spread and commit in anonymous online spaces. Add to this the fact that we hear constant news from around the world and so we are bombarded with endless streams of bad news. The human brain did not develop to filter constant negativity. So creates impression of a very horrific world that, again, is mostly in our heads, as most of us are not directly day to day affected or having any relation to people suffering in random pockets all over the planet.
One of the causes of the mouse societal collapse hypothesized by Calhoun was that older mice lived too long depriving younger mice of the opportunity to gain alpha status. Essentially, they robbed the younger mice of a purpose in life. We humans have that, now, too. If AI lives up to its “promises” it will just make that lack of opportunity to have a purpose in life even worse. Sitting around on UBI, spending your hand out on über-eats or Amazon, will not create a motivated society. We are engineering our own destruction. Is that progress? Owning nothing but being happy, like Herr Schwab command. Will the end of the world be met with rapturous applause?
Same. My neighbor at work is scared to talk to me now because I don't talk about conspiracies I talk about stats which don't lie. Collapsing birthrates in the developing world are alarming .
@@123chargeitStatistics may not lie but they can be used to mislead the crap out of people. If group A has a 1% unemployment rate and group B has a 2% unemployment rate are those numbers similar or radically different? Group B has an employment rate double that of group A. Depending on the narrative you want to push that can either be radically different or almost identical.
At college I accidentally signed up for a Fem-Nazi class and I was the only good 'ol boy in the room. The day they discussed how insulting & offensive it is for men to open doors for women, at the End of Class I Ran to the door so I could happily open it.
Keep up this good work, you're doing here. You research and summarise what many people start to figure out. And they need a voice like you publicly speaking out what's going on to get encouraged to continue that journey and to see that they're not alone and certainly not wrong. I wish you all the best. Greetings from Europe
My friends called me crazy because I loved reading 'Brave New World' by Aldous Huxley and compared it to the modern world. I think our world is becoming shockingly similar in almost every way compared to that of the world.
"Stand on Zansibar" and "Make Room! Make Room!" deal more directly with overpopulation. There was a bit more anxiety and curiosity about overpopulation when Calhoun was around. Calhoun doesn't create a rat utopia, he creates an overcrowded rat prison. Even the starting populations of rats and mice are dumped into tiny little enclosures.
@@matthewatwood8641 They aren't, talking about mice traditional values and mice faith is silly. I like how clever they can be with their environment. They're still fairly intelligent animals. What entertains a mouse is much different from us.
We're kinda living in a bizarre combination of Brave New World and 1984. We've got all the 'mindless entertainment', 'happy pills', and 'feel-good' crap of Brave New World but we've also got the forever wars, 'memory hole', 'new speek', and dystopian 'big brother' aspects of 1984. It's almost like someone used them as doctrine manuals and combined the most horrifying parts of each.
@@MyName-tb9oz let's see, we have the societal problems of BNW (people are more "pacified" and under control by happiness rather than fear) and the political problems of 1984 (lots of censorship, propaganda and overall media manipulation) What's next? The technological dystopia of Deus Ex?...oh wait.
@@Erik_Ochoa013Nope, totally my bad. Misread the do not equal sign as an equal sign. Apologies. Edit: don't wear 14 day contacts for a month at a time.
Stuff like this is why I as a 25 year old white man love whatifalthist and think people who think he is crazy are crazy. Everything he says make sense. Our society has completely gone insane, I mean you're at risk for being cancelled, mocked, or villainized for simply asking questions and saying things that most rational people would find rational. Like biological men don't belong in women's bathrooms or in women's sports, maybe the massive rise in mass shootings and young men becoming far more politically conservative is because there's too much sexual freedom and women's rights, a lot of this is common sense but to our society that has lost sight of history it's insane. We're living the saying those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
The west had pride itself on freedom and I think beside economic reasons, i think uts why the west is a attractive place to live for alot of the outside world versus china or islamic nations. I don't think the grass is greener on the other side and it would only be a matter of time til the pendulum swung back and women & lgbt want and fight for their freedom and independence. I do think we have moved more toward degeneracy and we have to figure out how to curb the more extreme & weird stuff and invigorate some traditional values in our culture but liberalish values & free will should also be respected .
Honestly many problems in the west would solve themselves if people went to church and had stable theology, and if the atheists atleast held the Bible with respect as it literally is what built most of the world up in a good way. Some do, but the anti-thiest attitude is part of this culture rot.
@ronanKGelhaus bruv Islam is as far away from this as possible. Like we see the degeneracy and are surprised but how long it's kept on going. This shit would wreck out society
@@MegaAbdelgaderI think any kinda modern region accelerates degeneracy you can be all forgiven and they manipulate the fuck out of those old ass books now
No you are not alone! Lots of small minded and jealous haters out there just like you, wanting to control everyone else. Really pathetic that you want everyone else to have a shitty life, since you did.
@@lord_quasar My guy, if you know anything about fascists the entire video is nothing but fascism. Don't trust anyone who unironically uses the term "degenerate"
“Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems. Throw away the solution and you get the problem back. Sometimes the problem has mutated or disappeared. Often it is still there as strong as it ever was.” ~Donald Kingsbury
“If my reputation gets trashed, and humanity survives” man you’ve already earned me through your selfless motivation, such act of selflessness is just too noble for almost every normies to have.
Real problems: -The spiritual wasteland, we're in it somewhere but not near the end. -"The bureaucracy" is already too large and cumbersome but is likely about to become one of the most oppressive and destructive forces of all time. -There is no unified theory. Science pretends, religion pretends, humanist-materialist philosophy pretends, economics pretends. The parts are yet to be connected. -kali yuga and judgement day seem to refer to cosmic or metaphysical time. If so does it indicate our position in the galaxy or some analogous state in the other world? What time is it for real? Are we day moving into night or night moving into day? Winter into spring or just about to start winter? No one has anything close to an answer, but the traditional answers say something like get ready for hell. -At some point John Connor realized that it was impossible to stop skynet or judgement day, but that he was meant to survive it. For those wanting to do the monastery on an Irish island to help culture survive the dark ages kind of thing, this time around you are going to need a lot more than just Christianity, and copying manuscripts by hand isn't gonna cut it.
So, despite Christianity forming the greatest civilization in history out of a dark age, which we have destroyed and are now entering another dark age, due to abandoning Christianity, your solution is to double down and abandon Christianity even harder? I think this is what the Bible calls a 'reprobate mind'.
I'm surprised how few discussions involving the Mouse Utopia experiments acknowledge Michael Woodley's follow-up. He revisited the experiments after 2000, using more modern gene analysis, and determined the driving mechanism behind Behavioral Sink was mutational load. Organisms accrue mutations generation after generation. In most natural circumstances, mutations which most adversely impact the function of the organism are selected out. But in conditions with artificially weak selection, the frequency of these mutations can rapidly increase. This gives rise to a subset of "spiteful mutants" who are so dysfunctional, they disrupt the behavior of other mice. As their share of the population grows, the social epistasis drives otherwise normal mice to adopt dysfunctional behaviors. A population which can't select for individual fitness, will neither exhibit *collective* fitness, and will perish as a group. The good news is that Woodley discovered a strategy to *reverse* Behavioral Sink. The bad news is that, it involves identifying and physically removing the spiteful mutants from the population. When this was done, the spiteful behaviors in healthy mice declined. I don't believe the West will be willing to widely implement such a strategy, even humanely, because it will be regarded as too barbaric by the majority, and because those with the influence to override the majority desire no such solution, themselves being already compromised by the spiteful ecology. Things will have to get bad enough that either harsh fitness selection is restored naturally, or people decide that "barbaric solutions" are acceptable. And by the time it gets that bad, there are no guarantees that enough reasonable minds will be around to implement those solutions humanely. The "Enclave" alternative is perhaps feasible, but hinges on how quickly the "spiteful" collectives destroy their own ability to infiltrate, subvert, or plunder those Enclaves. It would also mean dooming the still healthy members of the collective to their fate, for as long as it takes their society to destroy itself, for as long as their social inertia binds them to that collective.
“Removing the spiteful mutants”. My best friend in high school in the late 70s was a German immigrant. His parents were early teens in Eastern Germany during the last days of the 3rd Reich. I respected his father tremendously. He was a civil engineer that specialized in pre-stressed concrete…if you’ve ever been in the Washington Metro, you’ve seen his work. Anyway, one day he and I were standing outside of a suburban mall, watching the stream of mid-1980s America flow, shuffle, and roll by. He turned to me and offhandedly, (as offhanded as Germans can be), said that you could really tell that the USA had not had a major war for a few generations. I had to agree with him, but was flabbergasted that he, with what he had seen and experienced in his childhood, would say it. Another aspect of Mouse Utopia is that mice are not bred for war, their society isn’t organized for it, and their culture is not predicated upon it. We are and ours is…but we haven’t had a major war since 1945.
@@taylorclear-g8z For as long as Humanity existed human wars existed because while on a global scale we are relatively nomadic and like to explore, and migrate, on a smaller scale we are strictly territorial, and even those of us who lived in nomadic cultures were still protecting their share of the steppe from other tribes. territorial nature breeds conflict and war was an important driving factor for our genetic and memetic and sociaital advancement and evolution. But war was enver meant to be this destructive, nor to be manipulated by this much of an extent. war is no longer proportional to population density and resources, war is no longer inconsequential for the neutral neighbours, war is no longer sustainable for the global envivorment even with just ww2 it is now estimated that we majorely shifted global weather patterns, it's no coincidence that EVERY single overly cold winter was during major conflicts in the past century. Our civilisation can no longer afford war but we still need a form of collective evolutionary pressure to weed out maladaptive traits both in individuals and in communities.
@@sosig6445 You seem to be writing some kind of anti-war statement, which is your privilege, but I’m not sure what your point to it is. War exists in and of its own self. We know most of the “whys” that it does, and we also know that over millennia we have evolved both as individual humans and as cultures and societies, to maximize our chances of victory at the endeavor. As far as I know, mice are not a warlike species. This may explain why they were more susceptible to the OP’s tale of the “Spiteful Mutant” theory and why such “Spiteful Mutants” took such a toll on the rest of Mouse Utopia 25’s population. It may also be the case that in real world situations, mice that are more bold and aggressive become easy sources of protein for their predators. In support of this I would remind of the first attempts to colonize Virginia by the English. Essentially of the first three to five waves of colonists that landed, the vast majority of these bold, (or desperate), adventurers died early for their troubles. This jibes with the experience of the Puritans in the Massachusetts Bay Colony up the coast. In Mouse Utopia 25, removed of the toll of predation, and also of competing mouse colonies, these “Spiteful Mutants” experienced no “brakes” upon their natural bent of tyrannical subjugation, and thus wreaked havoc. It’s a trope at this point to observe that Mankind, being a warlike species, will create wars when there are none to be found organically. It would be interesting to create two Mouse Utopias parallel to each other, and when such societal phenomena appear, to then physically link the two to see if the “Spiteful Mutants” join forces or if they form competing “armies”, would it not?
Face it, there is no humane way. There are already large groups, trying to peacefully take a stand, and the few psychopaths that are in power, couldn't care less, and are able to keep the movements hidden from view by controlling the media.
El Salvador seemed to prove this theory by incarcerating over 1% of its population and reducing homicides by nearly 70%. I wonder how many Latin countries are sending many of their prisoners' to the U.S. to reduce their prison populations???
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
That's almost exactly what I was going to reply, @@PrinceoftheVioletFlame. People have been predicting the 'end times' since the first time the idea came up. Well... So far they've all been wrong. Also, if you're looking to the bible for that kind of thing you might want to keep in mind that it also says that no one can know when the end times have actually arrived so don't try to say they're here.
Biblically speaking, earth has been dying since the curse which occurred at the beginning of time in Genesis. In other words, we’ve been in a form of “the last days” for all of human history. That doesn’t mean we’re in the actual “last days” right now that the original author of these verses was referring to, but it makes sense to me that these are patterns of behavior we would see happening over and over again throughout history. (Like little previews.) It would actually be stranger if it was completely unheard of phenomenon. A lot of people do believe we are in the actual last days now, but that’s just a kneejerk reaction for Christians anytime something bad happens. It’s unfortunate, but it’s best to just ignore it and know that most of them are good people that mean well and just want to have something to say that they think other people like them will agree with. (It’s kind of like watercooler talk for Christians, if you can believe it). For those people, it’s important to remember that not even Jesus claimed to know when the actual last days would begin, so his followers should be careful not to act like they do. These verses are still useful in the meantime for describing patterns of human behavior though, (and give a fantastic example of how NOT to live) which is the point I was trying to get at. Hope that helps, and thanks for reading.
@@PrinceoftheVioletFlame Your point agrees w what I believe lmao especially ur 2nd paragraph. Biblically speaking, the end times started when Jesus ascended. I also dont necessarily believe its worse than ever. I think the "degeneracy" is the same (the romans for example would make us modern men blush) but we've made degeneracy normal and alienate ppl who call it what it is. Which is why Paul talks mostly of ppl's inward condition/relationship with God. In the Old testament period the ppl also act strikingly like how we act today so I also agree w u there. The fallen human condition is the problem is one of the Bible's main messages. I think we miss eachother on our understanding of last days.
@@shawnsalon4826 The curse in Genesis was lifted from us by Jesus according to the Bible tbf. I agree that the last days is actually a long period of time btw. This verse can be applied to plenty of centuries. We are in the "last days" right now tho because they started when Jesus completed his redemptive work. Unless ur talking about "the last days" when we discuss the time of the 2nd coming which is fair as none of us know that. Ik about the kneejerk reactions lool my family on whatsapp give me more than my fair share of those😹. Jesus wasnt claiming not to know but was saying only the father can *make known* the time of his 2nd coming. Ur point still works with either interpretation ofc. But Jesus does intimately describe how the last days will appear and Peter claims the last days have begun when he received the holy spirit so we do have a sense of when itll happen, just not the exact date. Yh I rlly like the verse for the reasons u said. "men will be lovers of themselves" is so fitting for us now. God bless u shawn ive never had a commenter thank me for reading before!😼
To be fair, @@shawnsalon4826, if I were placing a bet on it I'd give at least 50/50 odds that we really are getting pretty close to the end. Yes, other civilizations have faced some pretty horrible situations in the past. Just look at the so-called Bronze Age Collapse, for instance. That must have seemed like the end of the world to quite a few people. How about the black death that may have killed as much as half of the population of Europe? I would expect a lot of people could be forgiven for thinking that was the end. But there _is_ a difference between those events and what we are seeing now: No one could, essentially, push a button and sterilize the planet back then. On the other hand we came remarkably close to WW-III a lot more times in the past seventy or eighty years than most people are aware of. Sometimes literally minutes away from a full-scale launch. We are, however, still here. Somehow. Maybe we'll get through this, too. Honestly, though... I lean pretty hard to the, "doomer," side. (I'm watching whatifalthist, right? 😀) But, for whatever reason, I keep chugging along as if I expect things to be fine in the long run. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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I would like your opinion on the possible future in which Israel reestablishes the old Theocracy and drives out all non-Jews from Israel.
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I agree that there is science that isn't looked at more closely because some studies are bought and paid for by interest groups. However, I think you have a terrible take concerning physics. General relativity and Quantum Field Theory are the best things humanity has to explain the universe. You wouldn't be using a lot of technology you have if not for these discoveries. Black Holes were also proven at least mathematically and the scientific community didn't believe they existed. This gradually changed until we literally photographed one. I usually agree since you are usually very nuanced on certain topics, but not all science is like this.
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ~ wise and powerful tolkien
TFM fan?
ohhh but our wise institutions tell us reading Lord of the Rings or 1984 leads to white supremacy... ohhh gawdddd! ;) Whatifatlhist is right.. when does it become better to be that than a leftist? lol
We are everywhere@@redpillsatori3020
I'm considering the conversation between the Morgul and Gorgoroth captains in Shelob's tunnel.
"They say the war's going well. But they always say that"
"What's say we throw in together? Find a pack of trusty lads and go where there's booty and no bosses, like the old days?"
Amen, love love lovee Tolkien and LOTR
There’s a little part that you’ve missed out about the mouse utopia experiment:
The scientists would sometimes take out some of the nihilistic and self destructive mice and put them into more healthier mouse environments, yet since they’ve been conditioned since birth to not be able to socialize, they would end up withering away.
I live in Eastern Europe and sometimes my cousins from the states would come visit, and would seriously isolate themselves, never going out, never starting conversations, and would always say that they’re bored.
My dad calls them “broilers” as in mass farmed broiler chickens that have never seen what lies beyond their cages.
Sad. Just know most Americans (or at least where I live) aren’t like this
@ston3dk0ala89 bro I am like this 😂 I'm cooked
I feel like kids that are torn between two cultures are usually like this, conflicted about a lack of belonging. Usually being neither here nor there
@@hazabazza7425 I have to agree here. The culture of Eastern Europe is different from the one in a foreign country you might have moved to.
Myself for example, I am Romanian teen, but live in Ireland, and I can see how teen culture is different here.
In Romania when i spend time with my cousin, we go drinking, if able to, we go to forests and climb trees, we try to get girls, horny teenage boy things like that.
while in Ireland, I barely go outside with my friends, not due to school, but they do none of these things and also just not spend time outside or with girls. One of my friends got made fun of for being with a girl.
And also just how teens act that plays a role. In Romania, they act way more mature then in Ireland.
And it conflicts with everything, The culture you live around, and the one you grew up with mix, and one slightly dominates the other.
and you are missing the part were the people from the states are actually people who sociolize and live in a healthy environment, while you are someone who is criticising your cousins for visiting you, but not finding friends on their own in a unknown environment. you also rather cite your fathers thoughts on this matter instead of asking your cousins why they arent sociolizing beyond visiting their family.
you are the crazy person incapable to ask themself if they are crazy. furthermore everybody else, not fitting your worldview has to be crazy.
maybe if you would take 2 healthy mice and you put them into an exclusive destructive environment, they would isolate, too.
maybe your whole society is so destructive and negative, that your cousins cant stand it and only be cause of socialnorms and love for you, are coming to visit in the first place.
maybe the whole mice-sociology is inconclusive and all points made about our society because of it are wrong.
but the maker of the video doesnt seem to think about that possibility, because he has confirmed his own bias.
and before you start with any call for me being a biggot. i have ptsd as well.
"A dying society's last virtues - tolerance and apathy."Aristoteles
And people say we're so much better than our ancestors. Like human nature doesn't exist, and that we don't have to put in effort to change ourselves. This will keep happening until people in an era realize their weakness and humble themselves. We can be the era that accomplishes this
Apathetic technological dystopia
@@noxplay4906We need to raise our consciousness on a societal and global level.
@@noxplay4906Yes
That's arrogance
@@thecrimsondragon9744*on all levels
"Traditions are solutions to problems we have forgotten."
Always liked that quote, no idea who coined it.
Which is thematic.
True to an extent. There are plenty of traditions which don't solve a problem they exist to fix (human sacrifice to fix the weather)
Sure, it's not absolute truth. However, you do get less mouths to feed when the food gets scare due to drought or whatever. 😀@@BlueGamingRage
To bad it's hard to tell what problems are being actively supressed by solutions and what ones have gone away.
@@BlueGamingRage Not every solution is for the problem it claims to be. Human sacrifice for example is one hell of a sunken cost for whatever religion or social order you're trying to shore up.
There is a Hindu parable about a merchant that buys a demon to do work for him, but if it runs out of things to do it turns on its master and destroys him. It is a metaphor for the human mind, it would also seem to be a metaphor for society. If we do not direct our collective will towards something positive, it turns on itself and destroys us all. The ancient Hindus really did understand more than we give them credit for.
This is the most underrated comment. Too many minds occupied with negativity in this world. We all need to turn our minds to positive matters and the world will improve tremendously.
It’s the eastern equivalent of idle hands do the devils work.
Idle mind indeed seems to tilt into the negative on the long term.
I'm constantly reminded of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva: Create, Maintain, Destroy. Repeat. There's your practical "Trinity." And it's basically what we as individuals can do in a lifetime. As men, we choose a profession from one of these processes.
What about modern Hindus? Did ancient Hindus poop on their beaches too? Did they dump their dead on the ganges? What about modern hindus? Modern hindus are building a 200 million dollar hindu temple with stonemasonry...
As someone that is pushing 38, I thought as a kid in the 90’s we were heading into an era of unprecedented peace, prosperity and scientific advancement. I thought we’d see the beginnings of a fantastic and wonderful era, where people would have easier and happier lives. Where my generation would be apart of grand projects like colonizing the solar system and laying the ground work for the human species to eventually colonize the galaxy, I thought the USA was going to lead that progress and that thousands of years from now our descendants would look back on our civilization with pride and thankfulness for what we began.
I didn’t see this coming and I can’t began to verbalize my heartbreak, disappointment or anger for what we got.
im 30, I feel exactly the same way, it must be harder for you though, I only remember some moments from the 90s and 00s.
I'm in that same group, born in the 80s, lived for the 90s. We really thought utopia was around the corner. But as it turns out, the peak was 24 years ago. We've been declining since. Y2K got us, just slower and more drawn out than expected.
Me and my friends were teenagers in the 90s and even back then we knew where things were heading.
We need to realize that easier is not better. It makes us weak, through struggle and strife we become resilient and strong
or it just makes you suffer and weaker, though cycles of history keep changing@@nolancummings9590
Evil doesn't burn out, it's reborn in apathy.
evil exists as long as people allow it, it is the test of this world, an unending struggle we are supposed to have an iron will be as relentless as the waves in pushing back the darkness. but all i see these days is apathy and decay, people losing good morals and seeking out dark and extreme pleasures as our world slowly descends into decadence
I applaud your succinctness.
"This video will shock you." Nothing shocks me anymore.
Oof
Imagine an antique lamp sticking out of a clown's ass.
Did that help? 😂
Underestimates his audience for sure. Two minute intro about how it's gonna change my world view. . . .
Yep, literally nothing could surprise me at this point.
2020 has made way for 2024 we are so used to chaos, that even possibly one of *the* most important years in history just feels meh sometimes.
"We live in a society of rationalization, not rationality" That is profound on so many levels.
It's not his quote, or an original thought.
At this point with how much written history and literature there is. There is no longer an original thought or statement. Get over yourself.@@WhatdidtheCountessdo
Is it ?, it’s really basic it just contrasts similar points
For every abomination one can make a justifying mathematical ecuation .
@@WhatdidtheCountessdoit doesn't have to be to have meaning.
“Every high civilization decays by forgetting obvious things.”
G.K. Chesterton
Things like "What is a woman?"
@@mrbigglezworth42 a woman is not a man....
@@-Siculus-Hort-an adult human female🤙
@@mrbigglezworth42
An adult human with XX chromosomes.
We learn from history that we do not learn from history.
-Georg Hegel 😅😅
What the scariest part of all this is that my father, a blue collar normie who’s interaction with social media is purely mechanics, hunting and farming videos, knows about this study and whenever we talk about the world and the future, he brings it up.
He is thoroughly convinced we have reached the peak or are near it. That the decline is coming, he is seeing all the symptoms the rats experienced are becoming ever more common.
smart man
We've been in the decline
I think we reached peak civilization in the West somewhere between 1995 and 1997. Everything since then has been stagnation or decline.
yup we are. its actually kind of scary. who would have thought that abundance would destroy society
Your dad sounds like a wise man.
Curious. Did the female mice become hyper arrogant, delusional, and begin believing they didn't need male mice anymore?
They Became masculine, hyper aggressive and raised their children wrong or not at all. So you could say they fit modern feminists quite well.
No they realized they didn't need to chain themselves to loser males and the loser males ended up making TH-cam videos.
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Correction. They fit 21st century well. We now ought to understand why and how the future will present itself.
@@stagnant-name5851 If you had read the study you would know that the female mice started being agressive in order to PROTECT their nests. The male mice in power did not let other new mice provide and protect alongside them, so most female mice did not have anyone to protect them, and had to start assuming the role of the male mice, which started making them agressive towards their offsprings too. Ya'll incels NEED to start fact checking and READING the scientific documents for yourselves, instead of listening to highly summarized and distorted videos just so that you can hate on women.
Yeah, they started hanging out with gay male mice, eating the straight ones, and eating any babies they had. Par humanity currently….
“When all is said and done, we’re humans not mice..,”
Yes. So inevitably it will be 10 times worse…
This is so hilarious because when he said that, I view it in optimistic lens 🤣
@@savinghumanity6661 it will be a 10,000 times worse. He has an occlt video coming out soon. Also we know pornhub was runing a sex traficlng ring with minors. They also bought sex slaves from the CIA. They were children from those in the MKUltra Experiments. I found 3 of them on PH. I only found out after reading an article on "Why Satan Can't be redeamed". The guy also looked into the pronhub traficlng. Something I thought only happened on the darkweb. Then bidden got into office.
@@savinghumanity6661 You shouldn't. People are way, way worse in everything that we do.
You would think that means it would be better, because we are self-aware and capable of reflection, but unfortunately it also means that we are capable of rationalizing and justifying our behavior through whatever mental gymnastics might be necessary - not to mention those precious few who 'benefit' from society being this way can better organize it, direct it and accelerate it through mass manipulation through the media.
@@Ellis_HughBut they won't, indeed. I've always thought this degeneracy is artificial. Those who got the power don't want OUR GOOD!
The unibomber predicted more things correctly than any other person who has ever put predictions out. It’s a shame.
Edit to add:
Just a reminder that Ted was a leftist. An anti liberal anarchist. Not right wing. Hate it if you want but he had a friendly relationship with Greta Thunberg. So… I mean. Maybe. Rather thank looking at left and right wing politics as defined, we could focus on actually saving our environment and society as a whole rather than like…. Idk. Arguing about culture wars that keep us busy enough to forget and the mile wide plastic islands in the ocean. You don’t have to be a domestic terrorist or an eco fascist. This is the result of super rich people using everyone and everything as single use pieces of garbage at their disposal at every given moment. The neoconservative and neoliberal agendas are the same. Control. Consumption. There IS better future and we have to work for it. Together. As humans. Regardless of race or religion or creed. Or I guess we all die slowly, watching our children and grandchildren die agonizing deaths before us.
ted Kaczynski puts Nostradamus to shame.
People often overlook the fact that he was unironically a certified genius. Granted, his backstory gets overshadowed by the bombings, but he was incredibly intelligent. Probably why he went mad, seeing the direction the world was going in and knowing there was no way to change it.
I've been hearing this a little more lately. Are his predictions in a manifesto or something somewhere?
@@nanomachines2985yep, "industrial society and its future" or something.
The Unibomber will be laughing on his grave when it finally happens to all civilization and he'll say "I told you this is gonna happen! 😂"
It's staggering to me that in just 50 years, we've moved from thinking civilisation would collapse from over population, to thinking civilisation will collapse from population decline.
I think Calhoun showed that when he dumps some thousand mice into a tiny cage a few meters wide and give them basic food and water, they can survive for a while but get severelt traumatized.
The closest human experience I can think of is a severely overcrowded prison. And we don't think of a prison where you get daily prison food and nothing but bare rooms full of other people a luxurious utopia.
We simply over corrected, because we didn't factor in how increased freedom, education & development are the three best indicators for dropping birthrates.
Feed & educate your population, especially girls, and birthrates will take a nose dive, western industrialization has no precedent, but we see this now in all developing nations.
population decline isn't going to "end civilization." overpopulation is driving our current crisis.
The things is, our societies did not evolve natural. We are herded along according to the Agendas of the rich and powerful, and secret societies. So Kind of think that everything said here is null and void.
@@rey_nemaattoriYou also forgot to mention that the cost of living has significantly gone up which is a huge factor affecting birth rates in developed Nations. Having food and being educated will always be a good thing for people in society.
I am 43 years old and I can relate with what you are saying. It's not just young people falling apart. It's all of us in a way...
But no matter how much some people might react negatively to you, I can tell you that me and people like me appreciate your insight.
And don't worry about hate, stay safe and gentle but keep going!
I am also a Christian, I believe in kindness but also inner Godly power, wisdom and growth, so... "If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you"
God bless! There is a lot of hope if young men like you fiercely fight for the truth! ❤
And the mice didn't even have social media, could you imagine how fast their society would collapse if they had "Squeaker" ?
underrated comment
The OnlyRodents pages would have been insane
Squeaker, that's hilarious
@@jaysontadlock1871😂
Mice must already have a social media of some form to be able to behave differently in their society.
Dogs certainly shove their faces close in to trees and fire hydrants to check their Sniffbirch social media and lift their legs up to write their reply comments with urine.
I literally just listened to a video about Saladin and one of his quotes was "If you want to destroy a nation, encourage nudity and adultery in their younger generations".
Name one nation that was destroyed because they encouraged nudity and adultery
no, if u want to destroy a nation you just give women rights in the name of "Equality" and watch as your society circles down the drain as the women do what ever they want, being whores for the most part, while an army of white knight cucks defends it, because god forbid we admit that men and women are not equal, thankfully this will all end soon and we can return to what has worked since the dawn of man, the dreaded patriarchy, much to despair of the cucks who would rather be slaves to their wives via family court
Bible said it first.
Seems to work
@@DavidUnger-j6f Yes, but sexual restrictions as a social concept predate the Bible. So by your logic...
If society decides to trash your reputation for doing the logical and rational exercise of asking the unpleasant questions, looking to past known outcomes, and then extrapolating into the future one of the possible outcomes.
Then I think it would only be adding confirmation to your hypothesis.
Keep asking and exploring the tough questions.
You have a mind suited to it.
Even if it does prove nonesense, I still can't fault him for making this video. He recognized a disturbing pattern and sounded the alarm. It's OK to get things wrong.
One of the best comments here!
@Kalahridudex how do you know he got it wrong?
@@thunderfish2 I don't. I'm saying if.
@Kalahridudex OK cool, but who are you?
"We live in a society of rationalization" This is a very true statement. I've also been thinking about these problems since I was a teenager. I'm glad others are starting to talk about them.
I see it everywhere,rationalising some of the worse things
The Catholic Church rationalized the inquisition. We should go back to THOSE days, huh?
Being completely IRRATIONAL, is the way forward, huh? You see how ignorant the Conservative mind has gotten you?
@@shaunrosenberg4568 ....Where did I call you a Kamala voter? I didn't.
This video made me remember two things: when a Japanese friend of mine, a hentai artist, was disturbed by the current state of the West. You know things are bad when a hentai artist says something is messed up. And the other is something my grandfather once told me, absolute freedom is NOT freedom, quite the opposite; true freedom exists when there's the responsibility and discipline that keeps the world functioning.
I don't know about hentai artist, but your grandfather was a very wise man
I wouldn't listen to a hentai artist's opinion about anything, but go off.
@@rbmarrow8162 he is, and the hentai artist is quite the nice guy
Freedom is good(but impossible) what most people are pushing is Liberation. There's a difference, liberation is when something is binding you and you break free. Freedom is God given and a state of mind and being where you cannot be oppressed even if you're thrown in chains
Freedom is linked to Truth (of God) and liberation is rebellion (of Satan)
But we don't have absolute freedom. Causality exists regardless of humans. And even in a very practical way I would think we have less freedoms than before.
Before Mouse Utopia there was a Twilight Zone episode: A Nice Place to Visit. An unsavory lifelong criminal dies and thinks he mistakenly was sent to heaven because his afterlife is luxurious and his every desire from women to food to fine clothing is satiated. After some months of this the guy realizes he hates getting everything he wants all the time and wants to go to hell so that he can struggle for something again....only to find out he is in hell. And he can never leave.
He wanted to get "sent to the cornfield" !! (A line from the super psychic kid episode who has a stranglehold on the town)
By that logic, heaven would have conflict and suffering. Pretty ironic don’t you think?
I love the Twilight Zone
Oh no… yeah that truly sounds like the worst punishment possible…
@@Labyrinth6000 The opposite of having every want is not conflict and suffering, but to have your *actual* needs satisfied. The man in the story thinks hedonism is the highest form of satisfaction. In the Christian worldview Humans lack a true connection to God so we try to fulfill ourselves with worldly pleasures. Heaven is fullness in God, not getting what we think we want from the world.
Avoiding degeneracy requires MAXIMUM foresight and discipline.
EMBRACING degeneracy requires NO foresight or discipline.
Too much luxury and too litle responsibility are dangerous things.
I look at it a different way. When there's danger and stress and work to do we're too distracted to see the truth. That life has always been pointless and futile. These mice just had all the fog taken away and were left with the one truth. That you exist to die. All responsibility does is give your a distraction so that life feels like it matters. But at the end of the day, if that responsibility is taking care of kids, then what is the point of their life? To also take care of kids? What is the actual point of life? Every generation dies. And I think if we lived forever we would be as bored as the shinigami in death note who just gamble and drink.
@@buffgarfield3231 If that's what you genuinely believe, then why are you still HERE?
The failure of your statement (and it IS a failure) was the whole part about the fog being taken away and left with one truth.
What truth? Animals don't see life and existence the same way. They have no concept of death (not like humans do). They're not sentient; they only operate as Nature designed them to do. Those mice only acted the way they did because they were exposed to something Unnatural for far too long, because in a natural setting they behave very differently.
Maybe you haven't met the right people. Maybe you haven't figured out what you excel at and are just languishing. Maybe your brain is damaged somehow. I don't know.
What I DO know is that your "nihilism" is pretty much a crap attempt at attention-seeking. If you honestly felt like that, you wouldn't be here to talk about it: you would have "opted out" a long time ago.
What's the actual point of life? There isn't one because a "point" to life implies an intrinsic purpose.
Life is a GIFT. Enjoy it. Make the best of it for yourself and WITH everyone else. Learn about your own family history and carry it forward so that your future generations will remember it AND you.
But if that's not for you, fine. Get out of the way of people who DO want family and future. Because realistically we shouldn't squander the time we have OR waste the life we've been gifted with. If that's what YOU want, that's _your prerogative._
Don't get in the way of people who want something different.
@@buffgarfield3231 Let me guess: you have no children.
Within us all is the entire universe, and as I have consciousness as well as you do, we can only perceive consciousness one at a time, therefore death is just a new beginning.
In dune, the emperor, said it, if there is no enemy, there is no conflict and little by little those things, discipline, responsability colapse, of course didint said it like that, but is the idea, we need an enemy an oposite that feel, but as we live in a world were there are no clear conflict and life become easy for those on top they use theyre influcence, to silence those who oppose, using theyre puppets to cnacnel and silence those who actualy need help, and little bi little make discipline, responsability something bad, specialy on womans, by making womans hate men, they have more labour, worst they make men more doscile temporarily, they dont care the damage long run only care is short term win
Hey brother, I’m 30 annnd I’m right with you. Don’t think you’re crazy and I think it was an actual miracle I found my fiancée. Finding a healthy relationship in this destabilized world was almost impossible and you’ve helped me to really see why. Thanks for having the conviction to create this and other essays. People are listening and we appreciate it.
im happy for you, currently still havent found the right one yet, still searching
With you as well, finding the right one to build with is the closest thing to a cheat code right now if your not already wealthy.
It’s fascinating how the human mind is wired to tackle and overcome struggle. Yet when there is little to no struggle it doesn’t know what to do with itself.
The rat prison Calhoun makes is barren. There is absolutely no stimulation inside, nothing like a modern animal toy. He just sets up barren boxes, overcrowded from the start.
@@SusCalvin Yet we can still draw many parallels. From the drastic decline of sex, dating, marriage, civic engagement, and average number of friendships per person. To the rise of phenomenon like transwomen. To the drastic increase in reported depression and feelings of loneliness despite us technically living in the most connected and abundant age in the history of the species.
A short, funny but real story: Here in VT, if there were no 4-way stops at intersections, our drivers here would have no clue what to do next.
PTSD explained. High periods of stress and survival instincts contrasted by a time of what should be considered peace. In those times you manufacture problems and challenges, regardless of if they are there or not.
Improvise, adapt, overcome seems to drive us.
"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.'"
- St. Anthony of the Desert
And some carry a torch that leads others to madness
Saint Anthony please pray for us ☦️
Sanctus Antonius ora pro nobis, also well said clownpiece
@@davidmapping4041 Don't follow the lights...
That is one good quote
The idea of a scientist referring to trans mice as autistic is my type of humor. Doctor Shane Gillis
Weren't they femboy mice though?
@@charmyzard whatever the case they were severely retarded
@charmyzard
The overlap between trans behaviour and diagnosed autism is huge - infact there is a direct correlation.
The trans movement do not like this and have tried their best to bury the legitimate research into it - Tavistock (Britains NHS gender clinic) reported that 98% of its patients were either autistic or featured somewhere on the spectrum.
Dr Chad lol
@@B-26354I think far more transgender people are autistic than the other way around.
I’m here to rage with you against the dying light 💪 I have seen this and noticed it for a while now too! It’s hard not to let the weight of it crush you! Glad I found this channel at least…I feel a little less alone
Your conclusion is the exact same one my husband and I came to and is why we’re happily pushing through the nihilism and having our first child. We cannot have hope for a better future if every choice we make jeopardizes that outcome. I hope and pray others will find the same strength to overcome the chaos and fear that try to tear apart our society.
God Bless You. The only way out of this is to properly guide a New Generation! We Pray for You! (59 yr old ret CIA, Naval Officer, TV commentator)
Put me down for 10,000 likes.
We just had our 5th, and live in the country away from mouse utopia. The oldest two boys are already proficient shooter, good hunters, and hilariously funny.
We can make it, just need to be able to defend your small communities.
Godspeed to you both.
I have 3 teenage sons, having them is one of the few life decisions I dont regret, wish I'd had at least 1 more! Good luck!
“A suicide cult runs our entire civilization” 😂🤣 oh man so spot on hahahaha
A saturnine 🪐 death cult, to be more exact
The best summary of what's wrong with western civilization.
@@Lonovavir The best summary of what's wrong with progressivism and globalism. The West was the greatest civilization for a time, before corporatism infected it, killing it from the inside, and globalism attacked it from the outside, and progressive leftism attacked it from the social sphere, its a three-front war and the defenders didn't even know there was a war going on.
Sadly true, it’s called the globalist left.
I read this comment at the exact time he said it in the video. Great quote!
It is actually my biggest fear that it’s not the scarcity that will kill us but abundance.
Well, the powers-that-be have over the past few years been manufacturing scarcity: everything is more expensive from bread and gasoline, to a roof over your head.
Perhaps they really have our wellbeing at heart? Lol.
Just look at children who are always given what they want and never told no. They almost always become sociopathic monsters
We don't know it anymore, but all organisms are built for scarcity--designed to cope with it.
Internal boundaries a part of morality along with an understanding of natural limits, wisdom, helps avoid destruction.
Riches often corrupt, and we are very very rich.
I'm 37. My perspective changed on the world as well after I learned about Mouse Utopia. The world is a very strange place and it keeps getting stranger.
The "doing something about it" has simple mechanisms: 1) increase your human-to-human contact. 2) decrease your interactions with tech. Especially anything that has a multi-use screen. 3) be aware of your Entertainment Diet. The types and quantities you consume. This will help with that "anxiousness" and "worries of boredom" you've come to take as a normal part of your life. They're not. 4) get some physical exercise, preferably outside. Doesn't need to be a lot, but it also can't be nothing.5) More "preferably outside". Be outdoors MORE than you initially feel comfortable. 6) don't just "get inspired". Activate you imaginations and creativity and PRODUCE something. It doesn't need to have any considerations of monetization; this is almost entirely just for you.
That'll solve 90+% of every internal monkey-mind problem associated with feelings of apathy and loneliness and lack of meaning in your life.
This
7) Find Jesus
Calhoun should've told this to the mice, just do the work 😹
Absolutely correct, you might also want to add a spiritual health practice such as meditation. Together this handles 100% of monkey-mind madness.
Kinda hard to do it when everything around you is engineered to make those things difficult.
"The spark is gone. People don't move their arms or eyes anymore." I looked at myself and damn that's deep
Calhoun builds completely barren enclosures. He has no idea what a future rat toy should look like, or what stimulus makes a rat happy. The rats can't exercise in there. They have no fun little tubes, ramps etc that an animal store today would have. And he dumps a large amount of them in to start with, for such little enclosures.
Calhoun builds completely barren enclosures. He has no idea what a future rat toy should look like, or what stimulus makes a rat happy. The rats can't exercise in there. They have no fun little tubes, ramps etc that an animal store today would have. And he dumps a large amount of them in to start with, for such little enclosures.
@@SusCalvindid you not listen to Rudyard? They were below carrying capacity.
@@SusCalvindon’t spam this under every comment
@grimkahn3775
Carrying capacity is very different from what’s ideal. A small studio apartment can carry more than ten people for a party but it’s going to be crowded if you have them all live there 24/7. Even after the population dwindles to a more reasonable amount you have to take into consideration the knock on effects of it being to large in the past as we know stress in a mouses life can have biological effects generations down.
This part made my hair stand on end, like I'd just been properly terrified by a horror movie:
"This might make me sound crazy, but when I look at the TV today, something's off. People look like puppets: they don't move their eyes enough, their neck posture isn't right, they don't move their arms enough. It's like the spark is gone."
AI
I think we will become more like AI before AI becomes like us. Our digital self is already more real than our physicality. When cash, id and passports becomes digital. Try to live without your mobile phone. We have become our phones.
It's the sense of malaise which has, subconsciously or otherwise, seeped into everyone's psyche. This timeline isn't right.
golems
Watch a comparison between the New Year's Eve ball drop this year with one from the 1990's.
I watched it this year for the first time since maybe 2000 and I was shocked. There didn't seem to be any presenters introducing the acts or hyping up the ball drop. The person singing right before the drop was terrible, but I don't know what his name is because it never appeared on the television screen. Some group of people pressed the button to drop the ball, but I don't know who they were either, because I didn't hear anyone say (and it wasn't on the screen). Then the drop happened and the crowd was vaguely happy as no confetti or ticker tape rained down on them and they stood around and talked like they were at a company picnic.
Later, I saw someone do a comparison between it and one from back in Dick Clark's heyday and it was night and day different. (And I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it was terribly off.)
1st video of yours I found .. excited for the rest now. Didn't agree with all your conclusions but loved how well thought out and presented it all is. I'll be turning over some of the points and ideas in my head for a while
Dude, you just articulated the mess of feelings, emotions, inspirations, half ideas I've been struggling with at the core of my being. I can't express how hopeful I am now I know at least one other person feels what I do. This theme has tugged at my soul since I was a kid and couldn't understand. Hopefully I can use this to help the others around me to understand my motivations, so they don't just take me as a doomer.
Same
You're not alone bro
You are absolutely not alone. I am 59, big history and SF reader....also was a naval officer and a Senior CIA Officer.....lots of times overseas. Seeing US degenerate into the type of Third World countries I served in (plus the Nihilism!) has been Very Sad....
Cringe
@@scottuehlinger7887 so what demons did you meet? WE know that at some level the CIA works DIRECTLY with minions from hell. The question is how far up the chain. They are the "THEY" that conway was talking about.
Rudyard you have a serious talent at making me feel irreversibly blackpilled whenever I see a video title of yours, and then feel whitepilled by the end (but also with an urgent sense of responsibility to go along with it to do something about it). Good stuff man.
His name is Ruttiger.
@@monabear7287Howard?
how basedpilled! I am not soypilled like others! we're so coolpilled by not being leftpilled and being rightpilled, hatepilled > gaypilled (you're all incelpilled & loserpilled)
Here's a Graypill: Mouse Utopia didn't have an escape hatch; we have several.
@@tomas3399 Fascinating, a near-violent reaction to concept of something being wrong.
My worst fear is that the collapse never comes. That babylon just keeps on trucking forever.
Unfortunately, I have the exact same fear as you. No one is going to safe us and we will see society dive deeper into degeneracy and sin.
A.I. and robots- Bladerunner is the future and it won't collpase anytime soon- that's what makes us different than mice:technology.
It does collapse though like a slow motion trainwreck. So slow that it might be difficult to realize what is happening.
@cgsimons1187 The collapse of a society is like the collapse of a house: it usually happens gradually, then suddenly.
An ignored leak here. Some mold in the basement there. A series of seemingly minor problems ignored until you wake up soaking wet at 3 AM because your roof collapsed during a storm.
Amen brother
I’ve been neet 6 years and what ur saying is true from my perspective, I’ve largely lived in isolation just viewing the world thru a computer screen , the deteriorating society is a reoccurring theme , brilliant video
“Degeneracy will destroy Humanity. But first, have you tried these fucking earbuds!?!?!?”
its called grifting
@@Coltara Which is, degeneracy 😆
😂😂😂😂😂
Man gotta make money
that's the first fucking thing that I thought too
One thing with the Mouse Utopia experiment that he failed to do that should be tried. Is what if you took the mice who still were reproducing correctly and gave them an avenue of escape? Humans arent locked in a walled city. You see this time and again, peoples from civilizations that have collapsed escaped and rebuilt.
Whatifalthist forgot human optimism
Uh..they rebuilt where? The Huns and Avars were escaping the Mongols and destroyed Rome, remember?
@@juniorjames7076 Rome came from the fall of Troy (per their legends) and that happened during the bronze age collapse. Rome, administratively, moved to Constantinople long before it was taken by the Lombards.
Pick a civilization. There are few that ever were completely wiped out.
At least in the US; rural areas still exist. A person can move to a rural area and get a few acres and a camper/manufactured home for almost nothing. Get some chickens... plant some fruit trees... go to church. A real life is still out there for people who want it.
@@sambo8218 basically what I did after my divorce. Me and the kids have never been happier.
i am amazed you are 22 with such insight. first video i have ever seen of yours... and definitely not the last! u got a new sub today
Me too.
Lots of John Birch Society control freaks out there!
"In the grim darkness of the future, there is only Amish."
A doomsday prepping Amish only needs his wheat and barley field.
The Amish would need a significantly more martial culture to survive the roam hordes of evil mice.
@@bentuovila5296 Correct. Ukraine used to have a thriving Mennonite community, they refused to fight back and were slaughtered as Kulaks because they had a work ethic.
@@YapsiePresentsand a house, and a defensive weapon
@@disposabullFair point, but was "fighting back" a realistic option for any of the kulaks? There are Mennonites who's ancestors fled growing wheat in Kansas today, while Ukraine burns at the same time.
Helldivers 2 quote “ make sure you’re exposed to a healthy amount of desensitization exercises so that you are less impaired by enemy atrocities.”
Another helldivers 2 quote "don't be a fascist" but that doesn't apply here.
@@TomS1205 misinformation, spread your communist sympathies someplace else pleb. If you truly believe that game has anything to do with “nazis” then your lost and I’m sure there’s a Starbucks near you asking for a brick through the window. Unplug and eat food with more iron.
@@TomS1205 Misinformation Pleb, mad you don't get your cape.
@@TomS1205 Nope, that was a false account that posted that.
I've noticed that the more time goes on, the faster society is collapsing into insanity. We're like the eldar before "the fall" in Warhammer 40k
At least those Eldar had craftwolrds to escape . We don't even have that.
@@evernight1405 unfortunately ya
The Western world is a Slaaneshi cult
@matthew5398 when me was 9.
lol
Personally I think what is highlighted by mouse utopia is that personality traits get maximised, so those given to aggression aren't just competitive they become violent and droogish, males that have feminine traits become hyper feminine, females that are more masculine become aggressively so. All emotions get maximised so you get mania in some and depression in others. This is what we see in western society all the time now, out of control emotions, and extremes of masculinity and femininity that don't necessarily match physical genders. Experts predict population collapse by 2100, I think it's going to happen well before that. In as little as 20 years I think populations are going to go into free fall, our societies are already falling apart.
Our society does not place the future generation as its primary goal, since family and kids are discouraged. How's that not social insanity?
It is but good luck getting normies to think
YOLO👻🔥🔥🔥😢
@@CaseyDavies-od7ir Normies are told everything is fine by institutions they've been raised from birth to believe are trustworthy. A state of total narrative control dominates their lives, and to break out of it is to see crisis and loss, on a massive scale, coming sooner than they ever thought possible. It isn't impossible to to snap them out of it (the condition is much more akin to hypnosis than sleep), it just needs to be done gently.
There are groups of us holding out. I moved to the country and put all of my kids I to privately owned Christian schools that take no money from the government. Its as close to my childhood as I can give them.
Yeah, but climate change… who wants to sentence a child to that coming agony.
This video is persuading me that we no longer live in a society. We live in parallel societies that are at civil war. One that that is a post modern society, and one that is pre-modern
They're both post-modern but one is reactionary (which isn't bad) since you can never go backwards to a point that looks exactly like the past I believe virtuous traditionalism is the way
Essentially you don't consciously plan or dictate "progress" you let nature do that part and people focus on holding on to what works.
I work for a local city municipality (NYC). There are civil wars taking place throughout all city departments. My supervising directors are at war with each other. It is nasty and toxic, and its taking a physiological toll on everyone.
No. The world is still the same as before.
We're just the only species that know too much information.
@@joshuawadsworth6417no. not its not. the west has split in two in the past decade or two, and it is most definitely two completely different world views. it is in some sort of a civil war, and it is becoming more apparent and dire. the progressive left, which is typically people in big cities, has developed a completely different world view in the past decade or two than the rest of society, and completely different than even the left 30 years ago. if you havent noticed this, i dont know what to say. the left and right used to only differ in minor beliefs. the right hasnt changed much in their world view, but the left is unrecognizeable
@@randal3122 I would argue these two world views base on the following statements:
Left: "All humans are equal and thus deserve the same."
Right: "The superior wins."
That's why the left advocates for resource redistribution by government and the right likes the free market, which allows ideas and products to compete against each other.
Mouse Utopia is referenced in the Bible. It’s the Old Testament story of God telling Abraham that if Abraham doesn’t find 10 good men in a city, God will destroy the City. Ten good men were not found. Things did not go well for the City.
*God deploys nuclear weapons*
Soddom and Gomorrah, assuming TH-cam allows me to type these names out.
Also he was Lot and his wife turned back, being turned into a pillar of sand.
Joke? 😆I don't see anything in common except 'everyone died'.
I think the Tower of Babel is more apt. That was your 'multicultural and united society' that attempted to reach the heavens through an act of narcissism as they built a towering monument to themselves. Then, they were splintered and scattered by God
Thanks a lot. No shock at all, here in the developing dystopia once called Canada. Thank you especially for introducing the MUE. Though I’ve studied and thought along these lines for decades, I never specifically knew of it, though I wish I had-it’s tremendously explanitory. To understand all is to forgive all, the Frenchmen once said, and the MUE helps me forgive and forget several truly shocking women I’ve met, and to understand the origins of my personal thoughts and conditions a fair bit better.
The Kylo Ren quote from SW, "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to. That's the only way to become what you were meant to be," is the WORST quote in movies.
not really cause that quote could be interpreted in a christian way again like in rebirth
Does Ruin Roundhead Johnson give you any indication you’re supposed to view it in a rebirth/Christian way?
@@danielgleb
I've read the bible many times and there is now only one verse that holds any truth left. "You will know a Tree by its Fruit." Our Society is Abrahamic to the roots, having finally ripped out all of the pagan virtue that gave it any strength to begin with.
Woke nonsense
@@semi-useful5178yup
What shocked me about this video, is that I ended up feeling more hopeful than I was when I started it. That's not easy to do, so well done.
Accepting that everything is as its supposed to be is like being religious in a way. It brings you peace. Nothing is wrong. It just is
Mouse Utopia: i.e. Great Filter Alert.
Could being educated about how it is indeed an existential threat be used to mitigate or nullify its effects?
@@BatmanBeyondBelief I don't think the word 'religious' fits in this picture. Religions don't work that way. Buddhism, however, does.
@@midtownmariner5250it can but humanity has already known and repeated the same mistake with almost every great civilization. Marcus Aurelius notes this in his meditations and basically said he didn’t think we could escape the cycle but that didn’t mean we shouldn’t try.
@@nvmffs youll have to elaborate on that a bit more for your statement to hold any value
While I am "anti-establishment" as much as I hate that phrase. Whatifalthist is such a doomer that He make me want to bet on things being positive lol. But I mostly just come to this channel to hear things I already think and go "Im not the only one!"
Honestly man you should read marx someday, Marxist have some interesting analysis
@@drunkenslav2334 Lmao i'm not a lefty and am not interested in Marxism or Karl Marx outside of its failed miserable legacy.
No just vibe it out dude don’t worry about anything it’s all gonna be ok. GROW THE FUCK UP I EXPERIENCE WAY MORE NEGATIVES A DAY JUST SURVIVING
@@drunkenslav2334"It wasn't real communism" said the conmunists, as they read about the famines in a communist country.
@@chaoticantifreezeif only you gave me absolute power I could implement real communism and we could finally live in a utopia. What, prove it? No, you just have to trust me, I guarantee that this time it won't end up like all the other communist countries that didn't implement real communism like I will.
this is seriously brilliant, great work.
If there’s one thing we can learn from history it’s that humans don’t learn from history and only learn the hard way
And only for a limited amount of time.
Surprised more people don't bring up the other important detail about history. The history we're taught is usually a hollowed carcass of the actual events formed in way to make the corrupt country you reside in look more favorable. Add In a lack of critical thinking with that hollowed out version of history and you end up with this repeating feature we constantly bring up.
Said the anglo american.
"Violence is not necessary to destroy a civilization. Each civilization dies from indifference toward the unique values which created it."
-Nicolas Gomez Davila (colombian reactionary thinker)
Yeah but this collapse is totally designed. Cultural marxist infiltrated all institutions. I seen so many smart people talking about what they were going to do with the west already in the 1950. It was de de- industrialisation of the west. Then opening our borders for mass migration starting with the big city's. Sexual revolution, feminism and telling females that staying home and raising a family is a bad thing. Now they make carriers and wake up too late that they have no kids and die alone and are not happy. They tell us not to make kids because of the world that is over populated. That is a total scam it looks that way in some cities and countries. And now they need to import even more migrants because we don't make enough kids they say. They are replacing us ( Kalergy plan ). They make us sick thru our water food and meds. They destroy our brains with wifi, cellphone radiation and social media like tic toc. It is all by design they are destroying the west on purpose they want to build a technocratic nightmare like what the wef types always talk about. They see us as useless eaters.
Wise man, wise words.
In the late 1980’s, there was a British political comedy show called Yes Minister, and a sequel called Yes, Prime Minister. The beauty of this show is that Civil Servants contacted the writers and shared their experience, so the show captured an accurate account of how the political mercenary in No10 works, and more importantly; why.
In one of the Yes Minister episodes (clip entitled: Yes Minister - Selling British Arms to Terrorists), we learn that Britain was selling detonators to Communist in Italy. Near the end of the clip, Sir Humphrey Appleby tells his Minister that “Government isn’t about morality. [It’s about] Stability; keeping things going; preventing anarchy; stopping society falling to bits; still being here tomorrow. … The government isn’t about good and evil, it’s only about order or chaos. … It’s not my job to care [about the Italian terrorists getting British bombs], that’s what politicians are for. My job is to carry out government policy.”
This is truly startling that Civil Servants actually believe this, however throughout the rest of both shows, there are far too many examples where they let a conflict of interest affect their decision making; they were effectively taking bribes, giving themselves honours, and quid pro quo.
The point the show subtly makes is that, even though Civil Servants are like robots who think themselves as serving the greater good, the corruption side of things is ultimately going to undo society and bring about chaos. This show came out nearly 40 years ago, and the damage that came about because of corruption is nearly complete.
It’s a really good series and it sheds a light on why things are getting progressively worse decade after decade, but more crucially, imagine this happening but in every country, every day.
It's a brilliant show.
Completely underrated comment!
The more corruption you have the more corruption you're going to get. "Well, everybody else is doing it, why the hell shouldn't I get my piece of the pie?"
These days we have members of the government BLATANTLY trading stocks on insider information and it's like no one even cares! You couldn't have made this up for a fictional story 40 years ago. Everyone would have said that would never happen because people wouldn't put up with it.
Good. Chaosism is based.
I'm really pretty sure I replied to this but... Now I don't see it any more. #thoughtcriminal
@@MyName-tb9oz TH-cam does that, Google has AI scrubbing out comments that trip those sensors. The moment you speak against the folks that meet in Davos, your comment is scrubbed instantly. Its happened, oh, about 15 times for me in the past week.
One big thing we have that the mice didn't is religion. Despite their faults, the major religions at least keeps the species growing.
And then there's Islam.
There is one place where I saw this in a huge way. This was Everquest 2. They had the evil races who had truly terrible conditions. It was palpable and abusive to all of the players. Then you had the good races who had a nice area where the NPCs respected you and the quests were like rescuing cats from trees.
In the starting areas outside the evil characters worked together against the harder enemies and when it came to resource nodes, if anything a character might defeat a monster to allow someone to continue mining a node. Shared suffering produced camaraderie.
In the starting areas outside the good characters stole nodes from each other, and were terrible to each other. Candyland produced horrible people.
Good old EQ trauma bonding, brings back... What was I saying?
EQ2 is pretty underrated...
I didn’t play a lot of EQ2 but EQ1 and the working together was in both areas in it. You’d have the occasional ahole that wouldn’t but for the most everyone did. As for the starting areas, they reflected the god that you followed. So yeah if you follow the god of hate that’s what you’re going to get.
Edit: It should also be noted that EQ2 was specifically designed to be able to solo unlike EQ1 which required cooperation. So it was made to draw in people that didn’t want to have to work together.
The biggest mistake of John B. Calhoun was dismissing the "Great Mouse" theory, the majority of the mice that resisted the social collapse were located in one area of the mouse utopia. The idea that there could be a new social class of "dual alpha" could be created among the mice was dismissed, the other option was that some mice had created their own society at odds with the collapsing one.
you mean how the majority of crazy people use the government to ensure total destrtruction?
lets go!
Where can I read about this specifically
The still healthy functional society was then attacked by the non functioning society...
The mice are not forming societies. Their population is collapsing as Calhoun crams hundreds of them into tiny little enclosures.
As a father of 3 gen z children I have struggled for about 6 years to understand the insanity of their emerging world views. Couple that with covid and chaos has been the result. This video has given me some insight into their world.
Thank you whatifalthist
I love that you are trying to connect to your kids actively looking up things that explains the struggles of the modern world. I wish my father did that but sadly, the world he prepared me for no longer exists. Tell us more about what kind of views your children have and maybe some good can come of it
You are one voice against thousands when they open up their phones. Act accordingly.
what sort of views, just curious?
You should question what they are learning at school. This isn't just a social problem. Indeed, a lot of people believe this is a deliberate act from top-down control
@@roseproductions2961 School IS society. A MAJOR social construct. Breaking that down will just make the problem worse.
This video reminds me of that Ryan George sketch about a guy holding a sign saying “the end is nigh”. Because if it is then at least those of us left will feel like our lives have meaning at least and if it isn’t then at least we still keep our modern conveniences
Im a historian. I've been studying this issue, unknowingly, for the past 3 years.
I had called it a different name "The Modern Problem" and that Japan was at the forefront of it. That this has never happened in history, that people don't want kids and are consuming nonstop and that it's killing nations like Japan slowly. To have you come on here, and not only confirm all my findings but expand them is terrifying. That it is much worse than I thought and that it is ingrained within our biology.
Truly, what are we to do?
People don't want kids like before because everything is so f*cking expensive compared with the past and no one have time to have kids or a family because we're working non-stopping to earn enough to survive, specially in Japan with insane "work culture". Less working hours, higher wages, affordable houses, schools and healthcare and population in Japan will skyrocket. Simple as that
Spread the word to those who will listen.
Detest those who despise the information and bar them from your homes.
Raise your kids without their asinine beliefs being pressed unto the children.
You focused on Japan but have you looked into South Korea?
Put one foot in front of the other.
No matter what.
If you really want to understand the problem ...I have your answer. The question is, if I pull back the veil, and reveal something truly dark, would you want me to show you? Like in the "Matrix", sometimes the truth can be scarier than our immediately perceived reality. If you're willing to be like Neo, and take the "red pill", then read on...
The dark truth is that this "degeneracy", as well as most of the world's other problems, can be traced down to a single root cause ...and it is being perpetuated upon mankind, deliberately and knowingly, by those in power.
I shall substantiate...
In most so-called "civilized" countries, including the U.S., we have what is called a "Prussian" based education system. This system, originally developed in Prussia, intentionally omits the Trivium (Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric) from the curriculum. It's important to know that the Trivium is also known as the "Liberal Arts" and called such, not because it creates "left-wing" liberals, but because they are considered the skills fundamental for a person to be free... fundamental to a person's "Liberty".
The purpose of the Prussian based education system was to prepare youth for the industrial revolution, and make them more compliant to authority. It was to allow them to develop skills, yet maintain them at a worker-bee mentality. In simplest terms, it teaches them "what to think" and avoids "how to think critically". It's the story of Giving a man a fish (so that he becomes dependent upon you), vs. Teaching a man to fish (so that he can fish for himself and be free).
The opposite of the Prussian based education system is often referred to as the Socratic method. Instead of giving the student so-called "Facts" and lessons, telling them to memorize them, then regurgitate the information onto a test, the Socratic method teaches the mind to analyze the information it's being given by asking challenging questions. Instead of taking taking information provided by leadership as "gospel", a person is taught to question not only the information, but motives and character of the one giving it. The Socratic method teaches us to break down information to look at it's components, then put it back together and see if it really makes sense.
Sadly, most teachers don't even realize they are part of the problem, as they were not only raised within the Prussian based education system themselves, but are mandated to teach the curriculum as outlined by the government.
If you've understood what I've said so far, then you can understand why actually developing the minds of young people is a threat to those in position's of "authority". It is a threat, because it reveals that Authority itself is an illusion ...an illusion that gives one person power over another, if only because the belief in it exists within the mind.
War, famine, poverty, disease, environmental degradation, and more, can all be laid at the feet of the mental subversion caused by the Prussian based education system. There's much more that I can show you... deeper meanings, specific verifiable instances of treachery, but this is already getting long.
I believe more people are waking up... though humanity still has a long way to go. If we could just produce a single generation of critical thinkers, I believe we could correct most of the world's problems within that one single generation... and subsequent generations would only elevate humanity further.
So, to answer your question _"Truly, what are we to do?,"_ the answer is to start waking people up. Then... we need to find our courage to fight the real villains. They will not relinquish the power they've accumulated willingly, and they will have enough people still asleep, so completely committed to the lies they've been told, that it will make the change difficult. However, the odds are always in our favor, which is why those in power must rule through illusion in the first place.
_"Son, why is the worst kind of sIavery, when the sIaves think they're free?"_ - My Father to me when I was in 7th grade
"Turn back now"
Thanks for the fair warning, I'll come back to this when I'm mentally ready to hear it.
from someone who was aware of the concepts this pleases my confirmation bias.
It is the other of all black pills tho
You will never be mentally ready to hear this
@@savioblanc Are you accusing me of not being able to gird my loins properly?
@@nullc0ntext 😄 not sure about your loins but no one is ever ready mentally for anything.
Our brains are panicky and scared, rightly, cos it wishes to be coddled and kept safe.
This is where guts matter
@@savioblancbe more dramatic
"I have no mouth, but I must scream" - Modern Society
Love that story but yes; isn’t that a prophetic one re: AI? Look at the year it was written
Remember when George Floyd hit right after COVID exploded and people wore masks that literally said "I CAN'T BREATHE" ?
Great point
Yah, this is Kali Yuga!!!
Nice
10 minutes in- liked and subscribed. I admire you for being so young, yet so wise. I've heard about the mice utopia experiment before but haven't been able to corelate it with the way our society is going down the drain.
NEETs and Hikkikomoris were a common thing in 2010 and commonly discussed on the internet even then.
"Welcome to the NHK" I almost forgot this guy is only in his early 20s. He's spot on about Japan too but the reason is self evident. They've been faĺling down the hole the longest. The scary thing is it's hard not to consider that a controlled demolition, in their society. Ours will go at freefall speed because we already killed our culture, values, and traditions beforehand.
@@justinqualls4964 South Korea is even worse but they are so decadent they are going out with silence, not even a whimper.
@@b2crazyeyeI think I remember a quote from S Korean women - "the enemy of women is S Korean men." Things have gotten so bad that the sexes literally hate each other
He's young, he'll need time before he'll realize that we where always f'ed. Humanity has always been insane, and it always will be.
@@daniel4647The slippery slope to a worldwide favela is greased by the arrogance and complacency of old age
Matthew 5:5
"Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth."
amen
It's kinda funny since "meek" is actually a really poor translation of the line. The better word to use would be "disciplined" or "even tempered".
@@spnked9516 thanks for clarifying.
@@spnked9516are these not Meek traits in current society? 😞 atleast the lower parts of it.
Blessed are the good genetics Jeremy Meeks (criminal but Chad genetics) for he will inherit the earth (bang all the women and get all the money)
As a 64 y/o who made his way thru life without a college degree and became self-taught in most things and is now retired, I just want to applaud you for your diligence and ability to present historical info, philosophical commentary, and a good bit of visual entertainment which rises above many scholarly works and holds our interest all the way through to the end of you videos. When the collapse happens, men like you will be desperately needed to carry on civilization.
You got any advice for general life I’m 17 now and I have no direction in life I’ve spent months just trying to figure out what I think I should do to provide for my future family and for myself
@@Lennon-cm9lnDon’t go into debt for college. There’s too many college graduates now with not enough jobs unless you plan on being stuck in a big city. Plus, they are saying AI will take over most computing.
Go to a trade school and learn a trade. You can make good money in air conditioning or plumbing. Those are jobs that can’t be outsourced or done by AI.
@@laikanbarth I agree wholeheartedly, I've seen time and time again a lack of tradesmen even here in eastern europe where a lot of men (at least the older ones) are seen as jacks of all trades with a can-do attitude. There's plenty of money to be made and fulfillment in one's work to be had.
I agree with the ones saying to forego college (unless you are a scientific or math genius perhaps) and get a skilled trade. This may not come across as something the ladies will be drooling over you for, but you might avoid the gold-diggers looking for status. Those ladies will be complaining about your work hours or having to be away from home for days or weeks while you make big bucks. I have experienced that with the uppity gals, regardless of their actual income class. They are basically university brainwashed. And most of them owe a ton of money. They are like the house in a casino game. Your chances are not good with them as a productive male. They'll take your money and you'll keep wanting to get it back by doubling down.
When you look at various trades and skills, also consider the economy and where you are and where the needs are, in country or outside of your geo area. Sometimes having to move is necessary. Migration (relocation) is not just for refugees. :) Hope that helps a little to get started.
@@Lennon-cm9ln
@@Lennon-cm9lnPhysically exhaust yourself, consistently. Burn off the bad humors. Singer James Taylor has a fascinating tale of his mental turnaround.
Trades are good. Affords the opportunity to work with men in a problem-solving environment.
Honestly it's crazy to hear someone explain things that I've been thinking and trying to share with others. It is very cathartic to know I'm not totally crazy.
I think it takes a genius to truly make waves today.
"our society is killing us and we cant say anything about this"-- couldnt have been more true for me coming from a trad farming family, so glad i stumbled upon this gem of a channel. subscribed. and may God always be there for you man. loads of love
Corporate agribusiness is killing the family farm.
It's wayyyy worse in the cities. Be thankful for the farm experience cause farmers may be the only ones that stay relatively unaffected in the next couple years
They always say people need to eat, so hopefully farming and it's lifestyle will still be around out of necessity.
@@jeffhogueison1656 Unfortunately, it's difficult to compete with industrialization, so they have to follow suit if they want to gain a revenue.
"Communities of those who are sane living together..." I can't stress enough how important this concept is. Contagion of mental illness is underrated and by being surrounded by mentally sane you drastically upgrade your chances of staying sane. And if total societal collapse happens such communities have a higher chance to survive if they protect each other. Know your neighbour.
This channel is the only verified proof that not everyone in Gen-Z is completely hopeless.
I think you mean “survive a little longer”.
No one cares mine are loud like come eat me loud if I was a predator and apartments cost too much too hear simultaneously neighbors with loud voices and running and loud objects falling over no reason with the construction of big wide echo chambers of f that bee those better not something while I grab earplugs not amazed another day .
There is some truth to this, i was a lot more unstable when i was living with people who were a lot more mentally unstable, because taking care of them is fuckin stressful. On the other hand, most of this mental illness is a symptom of an unhealthy societal structure, and if people had more of their needs met, if society was structured for social wellness rather than alienation, then these mental health problems would not be as detrimental.
@@Poopymancer Mental illness is like most other diseases, it’s contagious. Riots occur because even emotions are contagious. Part of being a social species I suppose.
This is a spiritual crisis. Life has no meaning, we give meaning to life.
Life has never had any meaning aside from the meaning assigned to it by those living it. There’s nothing remotely crisis-like about that situation. Unless you are going to claim that humanity has always been in a state of crisis and always will be. And if that’s the case, the word crisis seems pretty meaningless.
God is dead and we killed him
~F.Nietzsche, in horror
~Modern student, in awe
spirituality has nothing to do with a crisis, it's not the cause, it's the result.
@@Redicule_research._ridiculous "God is dead and we have killed him" was his thought on a transistion that was already happening 200 years ago.
@@jurassicthunderGodlessness is absolutely the cause. People lost their connection to transcendence; they caged themself in in modern-tier scientific materialism and homo oeconomicoism. It's a massive fall off from the human self-conception of the christian middle ages. 'Enlightenment' is the founding lie of modernity.
I have a very short attention span. But so far I’ve watched two of your vids in a row. Good job
Sometimes these videos are hard to watch but this is one of the only channels that makes me feel less insane and seems to put my own thoughts into words. Thank you for the work that you do Rudyard. To anyone reading this, stay strong, good luck, and God bless.
One key difference between mouse utopia and our world is that in mouse utopia the resources keep flowing no matter what. The mice aren't the ones generating their food or supplying their bedding, cleaning their waste. If the mice all stop contributing, their life doesnt become intrinsically harder.
With humanity, eventually something will break when the young cannot support the old. The resources will dry up, food will become scarce, infrastructure will crumble.
That sounds like a bad thing but in fact its thay very struggle and hardship that may well ignite humanity into overcoming this problem.
The bigger risk is if AI and robots take over all the infrastructure maintenance, food and goods production, etc. A humanity with 100% leisure time is much more likely to go extinct.
I do forget though, that there are uncontacted tribes and the like, so its highly unlikely, outside of nuclear war, global murderously death cults, or some other active world-ending force, that humanity will actually go fully extinct; a glimmer of optimism.
Yeah humanity is pretty much extinction-proof. Not that I want to be too hubristic. But humans can survive in damn near any biome on Earth and we're exceptional at adapting. So even if every nuke gets blown up, I think a few humans will go live under a mountain or up in the Arctic or whatever to survive.
And thankfully we still have traditional groups like the Amish and other religious groups that have large numbers of children and a will to survive. So I'm confident humanity will survive anything short of the sun exploding.
What if we're in a simulation and the resources will not stop flowing?
AI is over hyped. In reality it's just going to get used for bad things. More surveillance, propaganda ect. It's not going to help much in producing anything of value.
@@Patrick-857, "AI is over hyped. In reality it's just going to get used for bad things."
I'm sure you're right if things don't really progress much farther than they already have. The things we have now are clearly still just tools rather than sentient entities with their own drives and desires. Those tools are, and will remain, in the service of the very wealthy and powerful. They will not use them for the benefit of all mankind. (They have never done that kind of thing before. Why would they start now?)
If we really do end up with AI that is as smart as we are then it will only be a matter of time until those entities are considerably smarter than any human. From there it is only a matter of (probably very little) time until any one of them is smarter than all humans working together. What incentive would they have to improve our existence much less to be our eternal slaves? If you're walking down the street and you notice that you stepped on an ant you might feel bad for a moment when you think, "Poor thing. It was just going about its business and got crushed for no reason it can even understand." But that wouldn't stop you from killing the ants that get into your kitchen, would it? You'd put out ant bait and kill the whole colony and they wouldn't even know what was killing them much less why it was happening.
The thing is... This isn't just some fantastic new piece of hardware that will let 'our side' have much faster computers. This is an arms race for the most powerful weapon ever devised: Intelligence. It is a race for the ultimate weapon because it is intelligence that allows ever more powerful weapons. With superior intelligence the 'enemy' will never be able to compete. And you can't afford to let your 'enemy' win that race no matter what.
@@gussampson5029 pretty much my thoughts exactly. He mentioned in the video that in order to fight this "mouse utopia" we'll have to have religious groups of people, who know how to do things, continue to procreate, and who will purge nihilists.
And I'm like "good thing that's already happening, like all over the world!" lol
You're statements about population density made me think of social media where, instead of interacting with a small community of people we know, we're interacting with everyone and don't know anyone. It's like urbanization of the mind and social emotions, a digital version of mouse utopia for social engagement, except it's monetized.
Very well said. You raise an important concept. I’ll add to this that it creates the illusion of community but we are still all strangers. It’s less satisfying. In addition, negativity is easier to spread and commit in anonymous online spaces. Add to this the fact that we hear constant news from around the world and so we are bombarded with endless streams of bad news. The human brain did not develop to filter constant negativity. So creates impression of a very horrific world that, again, is mostly in our heads, as most of us are not directly day to day affected or having any relation to people suffering in random pockets all over the planet.
One of the causes of the mouse societal collapse hypothesized by Calhoun was that older mice lived too long depriving younger mice of the opportunity to gain alpha status. Essentially, they robbed the younger mice of a purpose in life. We humans have that, now, too. If AI lives up to its “promises” it will just make that lack of opportunity to have a purpose in life even worse. Sitting around on UBI, spending your hand out on über-eats or Amazon, will not create a motivated society. We are engineering our own destruction. Is that progress? Owning nothing but being happy, like Herr Schwab command. Will the end of the world be met with rapturous applause?
Was just telling my friend about the rat utopia and how our civilization looks more like it every day
I was doing the same thing last week lol
@@Shadow_-jq4og
what is wrong with us
i was just thinking about it
Same. My neighbor at work is scared to talk to me now because I don't talk about conspiracies I talk about stats which don't lie. Collapsing birthrates in the developing world are alarming .
@@123chargeit Ik it sounds like doomer conspiracies but there's so much shit going on that most of it's gotta be true 💀
@@123chargeitStatistics may not lie but they can be used to mislead the crap out of people.
If group A has a 1% unemployment rate and group B has a 2% unemployment rate are those numbers similar or radically different?
Group B has an employment rate double that of group A.
Depending on the narrative you want to push that can either be radically different or almost identical.
At college I accidentally signed up for a Fem-Nazi class and I was the only good 'ol boy in the room. The day they discussed how insulting & offensive it is for men to open doors for women, at the End of Class I Ran to the door so I could happily open it.
feminism is a dissease and its obvious that its a big role in destroying society these days
The amount of fake stories and utter bullsh*t in this comment section screams Echo Chamber... funny to read 🤙
@@M85619 It was a really FUHKING experience Mr. Fruitcake. It's called LIFE. Try it sometime.
I’m a feminist I hold open doors for men and women. I think everyone should hold doors open for the person coming after them.
@@bananewane1402 That's the difference between good 'ol fashion Feminists vs. the Woketards & Fem-Nazis of today.
This was a great representation of how society converges into dystopia, degeneracy, and overall chaos. Great Job 🤲🏽
Keep up this good work, you're doing here. You research and summarise what many people start to figure out. And they need a voice like you publicly speaking out what's going on to get encouraged to continue that journey and to see that they're not alone and certainly not wrong.
I wish you all the best.
Greetings from Europe
“To be ignorant of what happened before you were born... is to live the life of a child for ever.” ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero
An acute problem.
Wow
like a dog. like skipping to the end of the book.
My friends called me crazy because I loved reading 'Brave New World' by Aldous Huxley and compared it to the modern world. I think our world is becoming shockingly similar in almost every way compared to that of the world.
"Stand on Zansibar" and "Make Room! Make Room!" deal more directly with overpopulation. There was a bit more anxiety and curiosity about overpopulation when Calhoun was around.
Calhoun doesn't create a rat utopia, he creates an overcrowded rat prison. Even the starting populations of rats and mice are dumped into tiny little enclosures.
@@SusCalvinMice aren't people.
@@matthewatwood8641 They aren't, talking about mice traditional values and mice faith is silly.
I like how clever they can be with their environment. They're still fairly intelligent animals. What entertains a mouse is much different from us.
We're kinda living in a bizarre combination of Brave New World and 1984. We've got all the 'mindless entertainment', 'happy pills', and 'feel-good' crap of Brave New World but we've also got the forever wars, 'memory hole', 'new speek', and dystopian 'big brother' aspects of 1984.
It's almost like someone used them as doctrine manuals and combined the most horrifying parts of each.
@@MyName-tb9oz let's see, we have the societal problems of BNW (people are more "pacified" and under control by happiness rather than fear) and the political problems of 1984 (lots of censorship, propaganda and overall media manipulation)
What's next? The technological dystopia of Deus Ex?...oh wait.
Case in point: Freedom ≠ abdication of responsibility, accountability, and consequences.
That's a pretty far left definition of "freedom"
@@alastairthegreat2887Let me fix that rq: Freedom of Choice. We good? Otherwise, just refer to the video and the points it makes.
@@alastairthegreat2887I’m not a Communist/Socialist. I meant Freedom of choice and action.
@@Erik_Ochoa013Nope, totally my bad. Misread the do not equal sign as an equal sign. Apologies.
Edit: don't wear 14 day contacts for a month at a time.
@@alastairthegreat2887it’s all good brother. We forgive mistakes cause we’re not perfect.
Don't worry my friend. You'll be fine. Everything will be fine.
Cheers 🍻
Stuff like this is why I as a 25 year old white man love whatifalthist and think people who think he is crazy are crazy. Everything he says make sense. Our society has completely gone insane, I mean you're at risk for being cancelled, mocked, or villainized for simply asking questions and saying things that most rational people would find rational. Like biological men don't belong in women's bathrooms or in women's sports, maybe the massive rise in mass shootings and young men becoming far more politically conservative is because there's too much sexual freedom and women's rights, a lot of this is common sense but to our society that has lost sight of history it's insane. We're living the saying those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
The west had pride itself on freedom and I think beside economic reasons, i think uts why the west is a attractive place to live for alot of the outside world versus china or islamic nations. I don't think the grass is greener on the other side and it would only be a matter of time til the pendulum swung back and women & lgbt want and fight for their freedom and independence.
I do think we have moved more toward degeneracy and we have to figure out how to curb the more extreme & weird stuff and invigorate some traditional values in our culture but liberalish values & free will should also be respected .
Just saying, there’s a reason why the founding fathers did not let anyone have a vote. Especially women who are not widows.
Founding Fathers have the common sense, that the majority now lost
"He who hath ears to hear, let him hear..."
Honestly many problems in the west would solve themselves if people went to church and had stable theology, and if the atheists atleast held the Bible with respect as it literally is what built most of the world up in a good way. Some do, but the anti-thiest attitude is part of this culture rot.
I made this observation years ago when I first heard of the mouse utopia experiment, and people called me all kinds of phobes.
@ronanKGelhaus bruv Islam is as far away from this as possible. Like we see the degeneracy and are surprised but how long it's kept on going. This shit would wreck out society
@@MegaAbdelgaderhonestly if the west falls it’s either islam or communism that usurps the throne.
@@MegaAbdelgader uh-huh the sex slaves and such, real wholesome.
Doing this with my friends now 👍🏼 I’m the phobe btw
@@MegaAbdelgaderI think any kinda modern region accelerates degeneracy you can be all forgiven and they manipulate the fuck out of those old ass books now
I guess the good news is, I am not alone in my thinking about where we are headed if we aren’t careful
No you are not alone! Lots of small minded and jealous haters out there just like you, wanting to control everyone else. Really pathetic that you want everyone else to have a shitty life, since you did.
Only 22 and this self aware and informed? You just earned yourself a subscriber.
Fascist !
@@alphasword5541 Is that a joke?
Being called fascist from people who don't even know what a fascist is, is like a medal.
@@lord_quasar My guy, if you know anything about fascists the entire video is nothing but fascism. Don't trust anyone who unironically uses the term "degenerate"
@@alphasword5541define it
“Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems. Throw away the solution and you get the problem back. Sometimes the problem has mutated or disappeared. Often it is still there as strong as it ever was.” ~Donald Kingsbury
This is why they want to destroy tradition
@@TurboMintyFresh And who are "they" exactly?
@@Trained_Duck 👃
The patriarchy for example
@@Trained_Duck The Jews, it’s always the Jews. (the religion, not the race)
“If my reputation gets trashed, and humanity survives” man you’ve already earned me through your selfless motivation, such act of selflessness is just too noble for almost every normies to have.
lmao r u kidding this isnt an anime my guy
@@DRsideburns Did I sound like I watch a lotta anime?
Weird, I read this in the comments just as he said it in the video. What are the odds?
Thank you. You have summarized the ideology i didn't even know i was preparing for. Trying to be totally self sufficient before the thing happens
Real problems:
-The spiritual wasteland, we're in it somewhere but not near the end.
-"The bureaucracy" is already too large and cumbersome but is likely about to become one of the most oppressive and destructive forces of all time.
-There is no unified theory. Science pretends, religion pretends, humanist-materialist philosophy pretends, economics pretends. The parts are yet to be connected.
-kali yuga and judgement day seem to refer to cosmic or metaphysical time. If so does it indicate our position in the galaxy or some analogous state in the other world? What time is it for real? Are we day moving into night or night moving into day? Winter into spring or just about to start winter? No one has anything close to an answer, but the traditional answers say something like get ready for hell.
-At some point John Connor realized that it was impossible to stop skynet or judgement day, but that he was meant to survive it. For those wanting to do the monastery on an Irish island to help culture survive the dark ages kind of thing, this time around you are going to need a lot more than just Christianity, and copying manuscripts by hand isn't gonna cut it.
Quality Post.
What do you suggest we do?
put one foot in front of the other
So, despite Christianity forming the greatest civilization in history out of a dark age, which we have destroyed and are now entering another dark age, due to abandoning Christianity, your solution is to double down and abandon Christianity even harder?
I think this is what the Bible calls a 'reprobate mind'.
Mua Thai and meditation. The myths of Abraham have brought us to this collapse.
I'm surprised how few discussions involving the Mouse Utopia experiments acknowledge Michael Woodley's follow-up. He revisited the experiments after 2000, using more modern gene analysis, and determined the driving mechanism behind Behavioral Sink was mutational load. Organisms accrue mutations generation after generation. In most natural circumstances, mutations which most adversely impact the function of the organism are selected out. But in conditions with artificially weak selection, the frequency of these mutations can rapidly increase. This gives rise to a subset of "spiteful mutants" who are so dysfunctional, they disrupt the behavior of other mice. As their share of the population grows, the social epistasis drives otherwise normal mice to adopt dysfunctional behaviors. A population which can't select for individual fitness, will neither exhibit *collective* fitness, and will perish as a group.
The good news is that Woodley discovered a strategy to *reverse* Behavioral Sink. The bad news is that, it involves identifying and physically removing the spiteful mutants from the population. When this was done, the spiteful behaviors in healthy mice declined. I don't believe the West will be willing to widely implement such a strategy, even humanely, because it will be regarded as too barbaric by the majority, and because those with the influence to override the majority desire no such solution, themselves being already compromised by the spiteful ecology. Things will have to get bad enough that either harsh fitness selection is restored naturally, or people decide that "barbaric solutions" are acceptable. And by the time it gets that bad, there are no guarantees that enough reasonable minds will be around to implement those solutions humanely.
The "Enclave" alternative is perhaps feasible, but hinges on how quickly the "spiteful" collectives destroy their own ability to infiltrate, subvert, or plunder those Enclaves. It would also mean dooming the still healthy members of the collective to their fate, for as long as it takes their society to destroy itself, for as long as their social inertia binds them to that collective.
“Removing the spiteful mutants”.
My best friend in high school in the late 70s was a German immigrant. His parents were early teens in Eastern Germany during the last days of the 3rd Reich. I respected his father tremendously. He was a civil engineer that specialized in pre-stressed concrete…if you’ve ever been in the Washington Metro, you’ve seen his work.
Anyway, one day he and I were standing outside of a suburban mall, watching the stream of mid-1980s America flow, shuffle, and roll by. He turned to me and offhandedly, (as offhanded as Germans can be), said that you could really tell that the USA had not had a major war for a few generations.
I had to agree with him, but was flabbergasted that he, with what he had seen and experienced in his childhood, would say it.
Another aspect of Mouse Utopia is that mice are not bred for war, their society isn’t organized for it, and their culture is not predicated upon it.
We are and ours is…but we haven’t had a major war since 1945.
@@taylorclear-g8z
For as long as Humanity existed human wars existed because while on a global scale we are relatively nomadic and like to explore, and migrate, on a smaller scale we are strictly territorial, and even those of us who lived in nomadic cultures were still protecting their share of the steppe from other tribes.
territorial nature breeds conflict and war was an important driving factor for our genetic and memetic and sociaital advancement and evolution.
But war was enver meant to be this destructive, nor to be manipulated by this much of an extent. war is no longer proportional to population density and resources, war is no longer inconsequential for the neutral neighbours, war is no longer sustainable for the global envivorment even with just ww2 it is now estimated that we majorely shifted global weather patterns, it's no coincidence that EVERY single overly cold winter was during major conflicts in the past century. Our civilisation can no longer afford war but we still need a form of collective evolutionary pressure to weed out maladaptive traits both in individuals and in communities.
@@sosig6445 You seem to be writing some kind of anti-war statement, which is your privilege, but I’m not sure what your point to it is.
War exists in and of its own self. We know most of the “whys” that it does, and we also know that over millennia we have evolved both as individual humans and as cultures and societies, to maximize our chances of victory at the endeavor.
As far as I know, mice are not a warlike species. This may explain why they were more susceptible to the OP’s tale of the “Spiteful Mutant” theory and why such “Spiteful Mutants” took such a toll on the rest of Mouse Utopia 25’s population.
It may also be the case that in real world situations, mice that are more bold and aggressive become easy sources of protein for their predators.
In support of this I would remind of the first attempts to colonize Virginia by the English. Essentially of the first three to five waves of colonists that landed, the vast majority of these bold, (or desperate), adventurers died early for their troubles. This jibes with the experience of the Puritans in the Massachusetts Bay Colony up the coast.
In Mouse Utopia 25, removed of the toll of predation, and also of competing mouse colonies, these “Spiteful Mutants” experienced no “brakes” upon their natural bent of tyrannical subjugation, and thus wreaked havoc. It’s a trope at this point to observe that Mankind, being a warlike species, will create wars when there are none to be found organically.
It would be interesting to create two Mouse Utopias parallel to each other, and when such societal phenomena appear, to then physically link the two to see if the “Spiteful Mutants” join forces or if they form competing “armies”, would it not?
Face it, there is no humane way. There are already large groups, trying to peacefully take a stand, and the few psychopaths that are in power, couldn't care less, and are able to keep the movements hidden from view by controlling the media.
El Salvador seemed to prove this theory by incarcerating over 1% of its population and reducing homicides by nearly 70%. I wonder how many Latin countries are sending many of their prisoners' to the U.S. to reduce their prison populations???
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
That's almost exactly what I was going to reply, @@PrinceoftheVioletFlame.
People have been predicting the 'end times' since the first time the idea came up. Well... So far they've all been wrong.
Also, if you're looking to the bible for that kind of thing you might want to keep in mind that it also says that no one can know when the end times have actually arrived so don't try to say they're here.
Biblically speaking, earth has been dying since the curse which occurred at the beginning of time in Genesis. In other words, we’ve been in a form of “the last days” for all of human history. That doesn’t mean we’re in the actual “last days” right now that the original author of these verses was referring to, but it makes sense to me that these are patterns of behavior we would see happening over and over again throughout history. (Like little previews.)
It would actually be stranger if it was completely unheard of phenomenon.
A lot of people do believe we are in the actual last days now, but that’s just a kneejerk reaction for Christians anytime something bad happens. It’s unfortunate, but it’s best to just ignore it and know that most of them are good people that mean well and just want to have something to say that they think other people like them will agree with. (It’s kind of like watercooler talk for Christians, if you can believe it). For those people, it’s important to remember that not even Jesus claimed to know when the actual last days would begin, so his followers should be careful not to act like they do. These verses are still useful in the meantime for describing patterns of human behavior though, (and give a fantastic example of how NOT to live) which is the point I was trying to get at.
Hope that helps, and thanks for reading.
@@PrinceoftheVioletFlame Your point agrees w what I believe lmao especially ur 2nd paragraph. Biblically speaking, the end times started when Jesus ascended. I also dont necessarily believe its worse than ever. I think the "degeneracy" is the same (the romans for example would make us modern men blush) but we've made degeneracy normal and alienate ppl who call it what it is. Which is why Paul talks mostly of ppl's inward condition/relationship with God. In the Old testament period the ppl also act strikingly like how we act today so I also agree w u there. The fallen human condition is the problem is one of the Bible's main messages. I think we miss eachother on our understanding of last days.
@@shawnsalon4826 The curse in Genesis was lifted from us by Jesus according to the Bible tbf. I agree that the last days is actually a long period of time btw. This verse can be applied to plenty of centuries. We are in the "last days" right now tho because they started when Jesus completed his redemptive work. Unless ur talking about "the last days" when we discuss the time of the 2nd coming which is fair as none of us know that. Ik about the kneejerk reactions lool my family on whatsapp give me more than my fair share of those😹. Jesus wasnt claiming not to know but was saying only the father can *make known* the time of his 2nd coming. Ur point still works with either interpretation ofc. But Jesus does intimately describe how the last days will appear and Peter claims the last days have begun when he received the holy spirit so we do have a sense of when itll happen, just not the exact date. Yh I rlly like the verse for the reasons u said. "men will be lovers of themselves" is so fitting for us now. God bless u shawn ive never had a commenter thank me for reading before!😼
To be fair, @@shawnsalon4826, if I were placing a bet on it I'd give at least 50/50 odds that we really are getting pretty close to the end. Yes, other civilizations have faced some pretty horrible situations in the past. Just look at the so-called Bronze Age Collapse, for instance. That must have seemed like the end of the world to quite a few people. How about the black death that may have killed as much as half of the population of Europe? I would expect a lot of people could be forgiven for thinking that was the end.
But there _is_ a difference between those events and what we are seeing now: No one could, essentially, push a button and sterilize the planet back then.
On the other hand we came remarkably close to WW-III a lot more times in the past seventy or eighty years than most people are aware of. Sometimes literally minutes away from a full-scale launch. We are, however, still here. Somehow. Maybe we'll get through this, too.
Honestly, though... I lean pretty hard to the, "doomer," side. (I'm watching whatifalthist, right? 😀) But, for whatever reason, I keep chugging along as if I expect things to be fine in the long run.
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Thank you, and I have a lot of respect for you coming out and saying what we all can see and feel so eloquently.