If you are lucky enough to live real close to fast long canyon rides and don't ride your bike to work, bike night, starbucks and just do canyon rides only. It is far cheaper and better to just run slicks. Do what you have to do to bring them up to temp and enjoy. A set of good take offs will last longer then a set of either of these tires if you only do fast canyon rides.
If this is true, you just described my type of riding. I'm going thru supercorsa/rosso 4 tires every 3k miles. I get a ~2-3/4-5psi gain on the streets with my pace. Are you suggesting that an sc3 slick would last longer? I've only ever ran the SP version of supercorsa.
Do you run with tire warmers for the SC3 for canyon rides? If not, how long does it take to warm up? If you do, does it perform right out the warmer or still need a bit of riding? Thanks!
The sp is more of a comparison to the q5s. The sc is a track day biased tire. Sc has tons of grip on the track I've ran through a few of them. I'm kinda a pirelli convert from dunlop these days but I do have q5s on my s1k and they come to temp very quickly and all the traction you would ever want on the street. (Yes I do things on the street I shouldnt) the q5s does wear quickly "relatively" imo to other street biased tires but that's the price of performance.
Wish i had tbe pocket book to run SC3s. Lol. Im running tbe Rosso 4 Corsas now. But may go to the supercorsa. But our rides in yhe twisties are long. Yesterdays rip was 230 miles snd the ol V4 already eats tires. Id be doing a reae tore every few weeks with the SC3
To be honest, the Rosso 4 Corsa is more than 99% of riders will need in the canyon or track. If theyre sliding on those tires, it's due to rider error and bad habits, not the tire. A normal Rosso 4 (non-corsa) is enough to push mid+ pack in the Advanced group at the track. PS - R4C uses SC3 on the sides too
I compared these 2 tires because after trying the Q4s by Dunlop I have not been impressed with Dunlops track tires. They take too long to warm up on the street to optimum temperature. The Q3 plus and now the Q5s warm up faster for street use. The sc is a Pirellis track day tire, however they warm up quick and I was impressed with their performance on the street. Of course with better grip and a softer compound they do wear out faster. The sc is also a cheaper tire, and with me price will win out most of the time. I did just purchase some v4 sps. I’ll be sure to do a review of them once I’ve used them.
32 is cold pressure psi on street tires. I only take hot pressure psi when I’m on slicks and the tires are on warmers. That being said Pirelli sc2 slicks hot psi is 26 rear and 34 front. This my preference on some tracks I’m a 200 lb rider. If the track has a grippier surface I will increase rear tire psi to 27 psi to avoid cold tears, or even switch to an an sc3 slick and remain at 26 psi since it’s a harder compound. Your preferences may very. Dr. Speed Lemon.
@dr.speedlemon739 that makes a lot more sense; even the SP v4 suggested hot pressures is 33/30. I wasn't sure of your level of riding. I know more intermdiate to beginner guys prefer higher starting pressures since they don't build as much heat into them.
@@ayowser01 I ride a fireblade & though I’m aware of it having the lowest power output of its class, however I feel silly ever suggesting it’s a “low powered” bike, by any comparison. Even 130hp to the wheel will rip arms from handlebars & face from skulls so I found that remark to be redundant at best & misleading at worst. Not all of us require the 200+hp of the modern Ducati or SC’d h2 & to make a statement based on dyno numbers is quite ridiculous to me, but that’s just my opinion. I wanted to know about the tire, but I also received propaganda concerning “high powered liter bikes” as if that’s a real thing. I just find it funny how we use language to create our own perspective of something that can’t be generalized. I consider my 170hp to be high power, so is he wrong or am I? The real answer is neither, but a novice wouldn’t know the difference & would believe the guy in the video before he gave my comment any merit
@@ayowser01 lmao yea, I’m curious about 200+hp too, but since it’s out of my financial ability, I guess that won’t allow me to consider my 170hp underpowered. This sounds like someone saying their mustang gt is an underpowered sport car because it isn’t a dark horse or the 392 scat is underpowered cause it isn’t a hellcat. At what point do we all ruin our credit & just buy a koenigsegg cause everything else is underpowered?🤣
Was this all street riding? I have a set I need to use up but I’m afraid I won’t get them hot enough.
If you are lucky enough to live real close to fast long canyon rides and don't ride your bike to work, bike night, starbucks and just do canyon rides only. It is far cheaper and better to just run slicks. Do what you have to do to bring them up to temp and enjoy. A set of good take offs will last longer then a set of either of these tires if you only do fast canyon rides.
Thanks for sharing
If this is true, you just described my type of riding. I'm going thru supercorsa/rosso 4 tires every 3k miles. I get a ~2-3/4-5psi gain on the streets with my pace. Are you suggesting that an sc3 slick would last longer? I've only ever ran the SP version of supercorsa.
Do you run with tire warmers for the SC3 for canyon rides? If not, how long does it take to warm up? If you do, does it perform right out the warmer or still need a bit of riding? Thanks!
No, they don’t need to have tire warmers, they heat up quick.
@@motorcyclemaintenancechann2131 thanks！
The sp is more of a comparison to the q5s. The sc is a track day biased tire. Sc has tons of grip on the track I've ran through a few of them. I'm kinda a pirelli convert from dunlop these days but I do have q5s on my s1k and they come to temp very quickly and all the traction you would ever want on the street. (Yes I do things on the street I shouldnt) the q5s does wear quickly "relatively" imo to other street biased tires but that's the price of performance.
Wish i had tbe pocket book to run SC3s. Lol. Im running tbe Rosso 4 Corsas now. But may go to the supercorsa. But our rides in yhe twisties are long. Yesterdays rip was 230 miles snd the ol V4 already eats tires. Id be doing a reae tore every few weeks with the SC3
To be honest, the Rosso 4 Corsa is more than 99% of riders will need in the canyon or track. If theyre sliding on those tires, it's due to rider error and bad habits, not the tire. A normal Rosso 4 (non-corsa) is enough to push mid+ pack in the Advanced group at the track.
PS - R4C uses SC3 on the sides too
Shouldn’t you compare Supercorsa SP and not SC with the Q5S? Since Q5S are the more street oriented track tires like supercorsa V4 SP?
Sc3 compound is also used on the shoulders of the sp v4/rosso corsa, and 190+ size rosso 4. The sc3 can be used on the streets in good, warm weather.
I compared these 2 tires because after trying the Q4s by Dunlop I have not been impressed with Dunlops track tires. They take too long to warm up on the street to optimum temperature. The Q3 plus and now the Q5s warm up faster for street use. The sc is a Pirellis track day tire, however they warm up quick and I was impressed with their performance on the street. Of course with better grip and a softer compound they do wear out faster. The sc is also a cheaper tire, and with me price will win out most of the time. I did just purchase some v4 sps. I’ll be sure to do a review of them once I’ve used them.
What about temperature on the SC3?
Did you say you only got 800 mi on the dunlop's. That is freaking horrible.
They warm up quick without warmers
I did, but I ride pretty hard on chip seal road surfaces. I only got mid 600 miles out of the sc3
32 should be your hot pressure; not cold.
32 is cold pressure psi on street tires. I only take hot pressure psi when I’m on slicks and the tires are on warmers. That being said Pirelli sc2 slicks hot psi is 26 rear and 34 front. This my preference on some tracks I’m a 200 lb rider. If the track has a grippier surface I will increase rear tire psi to 27 psi to avoid cold tears, or even switch to an an sc3 slick and remain at 26 psi since it’s a harder compound. Your preferences may very.
Dr. Speed Lemon.
@dr.speedlemon739 that makes a lot more sense; even the SP v4 suggested hot pressures is 33/30. I wasn't sure of your level of riding. I know more intermdiate to beginner guys prefer higher starting pressures since they don't build as much heat into them.
Every q5 ive tried is completely garbage!!!!! Way to finicky!!!
Low powered liter bike? What rhetoric were you trying to advocate with that nonsense?
Straight face ihad to rewind 😂
😂 I had the same initial impression. What he meant is that the fireblade has the lowest hp output of any liter bike in its class.
@@ayowser01 I ride a fireblade & though I’m aware of it having the lowest power output of its class, however I feel silly ever suggesting it’s a “low powered” bike, by any comparison. Even 130hp to the wheel will rip arms from handlebars & face from skulls so I found that remark to be redundant at best & misleading at worst. Not all of us require the 200+hp of the modern Ducati or SC’d h2 & to make a statement based on dyno numbers is quite ridiculous to me, but that’s just my opinion. I wanted to know about the tire, but I also received propaganda concerning “high powered liter bikes” as if that’s a real thing. I just find it funny how we use language to create our own perspective of something that can’t be generalized. I consider my 170hp to be high power, so is he wrong or am I? The real answer is neither, but a novice wouldn’t know the difference & would believe the guy in the video before he gave my comment any merit
@StewieTopless I have an underpowered fireblade too, so I understand both opinions. I do wish I had 200hp+ though 🙂
@@ayowser01 lmao yea, I’m curious about 200+hp too, but since it’s out of my financial ability, I guess that won’t allow me to consider my 170hp underpowered. This sounds like someone saying their mustang gt is an underpowered sport car because it isn’t a dark horse or the 392 scat is underpowered cause it isn’t a hellcat. At what point do we all ruin our credit & just buy a koenigsegg cause everything else is underpowered?🤣