One of the most pleasant experiences I had was with a slightly older woman I met at the old Bamboo bar. We had drinks and danced a bit. I asked her back to the hotel, and when I asked do you need to go soon, she said "Up to you"...I told her I need to get up at 7ish and eat breakfast. "No problem"...She was wonderful attitude-wise. Smiling all the time. This was the 90's. no smartphones. We had a wonderful time, watched TV...ate some room service, and talked. She was up bright with me, we had some tea and showered...got a surprise there. We didn't talk about money. I gave her an envelope with 1500 baht. That was my rate back then for an all-nighter. Saw her several times after that, all good!
Does anyone know what the current rate is for ST and LT (over-nighter) in pattaya. Like a range rate for most bars. The first time I did try it at Pattaya I think I got ripped off and I paid the Mamasan upfront and only got 2 hours with the girl 😂 I never went back and stuck with the clubs and the beach walkers 😅
the morning after is a very dangerous moment for our health .Many have suffered a heart attack seeing their night love in the day light without make up and without the effect of alcohol on their body..Some even found that they had extra sausage for breakfast
A rule I followed was , get back to my room any valuables will already be in my safe -so what I have on me id simply go for a shower and take phone, wallet etc to bathroom with me - once id come out and the lady goes to the shower everything goes into the safe other than what I owe her in the morning and maybe a few extra hundred baht as a tip if I have fun , nothing on display and never give them any opportunity to get anything
I'm pleased I found your channel Trevor ,Top stuff 👍🏻 every subject covered brilliant and informative thanks ,The last time I come to Thailand was 15 years ago so I'm in need of a few tips before I travel to Pattaya in November 2024 for 5 nights then off to Chiang Mai ,and Bangkok can't wait 😉
great video as always, regarding morning activity, I cuddle up and if I get a reaction carry on. I pay in the morning. I met a lady who stayed with me for a few days, she was really nice so I got her booked in with reception they took a photo of her ID so she did not have to book in and give her ID card. she was also a great tour guide. after the first day I never bothered locking things up. Treat the lady with respect and you will get the best rewards
Professor Trev and his words of wisdom. Great info for newbies. I remember when a hotel would ask for a joiner fee. Even if you booked a double. I was told that because they assume you are drunk and cannot speak Thai, you would just pay. I also remember a time when they were happy to be out of the bar with someone, they would hand your hand and really be excited. I also remember wait staff trying to "Con" you out of your change. You pay with 1000 baht note and all of the sudden you want to leave but your change never came back. (Always remember the number of the wait staff who took your money) go find the mamasan and tell what happened.I also remember the days when the lady appreciated you for how you treated her, she'd call her "Sister" (translator)who translated Thai to English and asked if you wanted another day. This was genuine. If she really appreciated how you treated her and she really wanted to stay but always replied "Up to You" because like you say Trev, they cannot lose face if she says yes, she wants to stay but you say "No Thanks" No longer will you find that kind of sincerity. It's business gents. Make sure you realize that. To ALL, Travel wisely, be safe and please stay healthy. Thanks Trev.
You are correct about the current state. I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles. Then I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest. Often lousy customer service considering it is a "service business." I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun.
What ive gained from these vids is ad long as your up front things will go smoothly hopefully, ive never been to Thialand before but im much more confident of when i do go , thanks Trevor lad
Hi Trev, great vlog, thank you for the info. In the line from the play Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare; Juliet is saying good night to Romeo. Their sorrowful parting is also “sweet” because it makes them think about the next time they will see each other. i.e, I can't wait to see you again,,,
First time there this last February and had kind of an awkward situation. Girl was sleeping like a log and I was afraid she was't gonna wake by the time I had to check out of the hotel. Luckily, I woke up, took a shower, she she was up when I came out... Walked her down, quick goodbye and she was on her way. I did lock everything in the safe the night before for peace of mind though.
Very well done video and excellent advice for a topic that can be treated as 'locker room' banter and not seen as a business arrangement. Most Isaan (Isan) women that choose (hopefully) to be bar girls are supporting their parents and/or kids, it's important for them to be successful. They need and should be treated respectfully. I appreciate your mature attitude and creating this video. On a side note at 10:55 I love seeing that Mama's Cafe is still there on Soi 6. I have had some delicious meals there when I needed a break from Thai cuisine. Makes me wonder if that little pup across the street at the jeweler/gold shop is still looking out the window?
Just take 2 at once and have every other day off. Its far better far more fun. Find one u like and ask her to pick the other girl. its so much less stress when you are out. they can chat away if u keep taking one and the same one, often you will get a broken heart. Ive been doing this for almost 30 years and thats the best way if u dont wanna get attached.
Guys, Trev's advice is spot on and covers about 99% of the scenarios you may experience. Of course you may encounter an extremely rare incident (extreme "nutters" or extreme "cling-ons"), but as Mark L says below, "always be nice" and everything should work out or a better chance of it working out 🙂
Absolutely all solid advice! I agree and cannot stress more..THIS IS A BUSINESS! Her time, is money! Please sort all the business out upfront and get all the uncomfortable stuff out of the way! As I always say, “A ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure!” Good stuff!
I always found LT a hassle. Usually they are hard work to move, when you just want them up and out. For a newbie you may find it difficult, banging doors etc to try and wake them. No chance. Best option is to go for the kill and hopefully get lucky, or if not just tell them you need them out sharpish as you have places to go. Bottom line is don’t be Mr Nicey nice or they will take advantage. Agree the fee the night before and make sure you and they are not too kissed that you don’t have “fun” when you get back to the hotel or you may find them doing their best starfish impression in the morning. Always ensure they give their id to the reception. If they don’t have or not asked for then leave her behind and consider changing hotels. Many guys been drugged and robbed by freelancers, some possibly in collusion with staff. Always check the room when they not just for your valuables but the things they leave behind for an excuse to return that evening and try for another payday.
I am a member for 14 months now, I was told in Maggie Mays that I can't use the card there. Even there is a video with you and the manager there, discussing the discount. Could we get an updated mail about the places where we can use the membercard?
It was impossible to get em out years ago not sure about now haven't been over for a while but should be finding out come back end of the year its a good subject really for a vid
25 years old here and been to pattaya once and can attest to everything Trevor has said from A to Z. I bar fined a real looker from a popular gogo, had a great night went to the nightclub after the bar with her friends . Then to the Hotel for some aerobics , Damm near slept until 3pm the morning after. She finally showers and leaves, being the idiot I am I go back to that gogo the following night wanting to meet someone new. Then I see the lovely Jen practically sprint when she see's me and locks me down after each of her songs. Although I honestly cant complain to much I did bar fine her for free the next TWO nights but alas she definitley got attached and so did I a bit. At the end of the day I dont have any regrets.
@@doubleoz2711 It happens my friend, work on that body and keep a positive vibe. You'll have them over YOU, not the other way around. Many of these girls just want to have some company, and some fun.
@@knowledge4741 yup, was waiting for these comments.. I’m in my early 30s but still look 25-28 and pulled a few local ones in both Pattaya and BKK but most do look for payments or something out it … a few where down to earth and never asked for anything but I still did leave some money for her as she helped me arrange a local taxi service back to BKK and spent that last few hours at her apartment in Jomtien 😂
Hi Trev great insight, thought I would leave a comment about my first experience in Pattaya only went there because I was working near by for 8 weeks, my first bar fine was on walking street you may remember the go go it was called Alcatraz I got stung all money up front didn't have a clue I was as green as they come the girl I bar fined I stayed with for 10 years
I went pattaya like a week ago for the first time I barfined two different girls from two different go go bars on walking street didn’t know what I was doing and payed up front both times for ST never ran into a problem each time I took a girl out the bar I ended up paying 4500 it was 1000 for the Barfine and 3000 for the girl and and an extra 500 a tip for mamasan I guess and I also payed 500 for a short time hotel each time was I playing the game right or could I have done better?
Credit to Trevor for all his excellent videos on Pattaya. Having just got back from the city and had a wonderful time, I am amazed with the negative dribble people write about the city and her people. If you look down on Pattaya and the people who visit the city then why on earth do you watch these videos? Deep down these same individuals would love to go but never admit it. Speaking to those complaining individuals, believe me when I tell you that you are missing the best experience you would ever have in your life in Pattaya. Pity you'll never experience it and only secreatly dream about it. 🙂
Always be on your guard. Remember that this is purely business. Overnight stay is asking for problems. You never see a happy Thai girl walking round with a western guy so what’s the point in taking them shopping etc. Say to the girls that you will be visiting the bar a lot and you will be taking other girls home during your stay. If you bring two girls back make them shower together before you do the deed. That gives you time to get your valuables away and even set the camera up if you’re into that sort of thing. Once you’ve done that you can join them in the shower which give you the opportunity to check them out. Best advice I can give is to get the girls out once you finished as you aren’t there to fall in love and that does save the walk of shame in the morning when everyones about. Alcohol does awful things to our eyesight and judgement.
I always book a room for 2 however they will still charge for a 3rd on those occasions where you need a buffet. Most hotels I stay at will still keep their ID & give you the call in the morning. If you are lucky, and it does happen probably 1/2 the time for me, then they are waking you up in a very nice way. A connection is very important if you want to maximise the chances of a great time. I have been to Thailand 18 times now (March 2023) the last time & never & would not pay up front. Cheers
I always book a room for 2 people too. In Pattaya the hotel staff just smiles when i bring a lady for ST (this was Amber hotel in Pattaya). they never asked for ID. When I was in Phuket best western patong they did do that. So I guess it's different per hotel and per place where you go. I used to go with girls LT, but I must say I like the ST, or if I make a booking LT I say to her let's go from 6pm to 2AM, lets grab food go out for drinks go to the hotel and then lets get you a taxi. That's what works best for me. You always pay after sex. I've had 1 time a girl asked for money BEFORE the sex because she said I was a bit drunk and she was afraid I would forget in the morning... which in all fairness I was. So I payed her before, we had sex and we had another round in the morning. She plundered the mini bar on her way out as her "tip". I just had a laugh and though sure, another 2-300 baht isnt gonna hurt me at this point. Flying tomorrow to BKK, 6th time for me now.
Outstanding video per your usual top notch style! Can u pls lmk if there are any very nice hotels somewhat removed from the center yet still close enough that it does;t make a difference to enjoying the scene?Ideally I would prefer beachfront or beach access. Any suggestions would be most appreciated, kind sir🙏!
No matter what you negotiated with her, it is iffy how things turn out. Pay After! I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles. But I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. (They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest!) I often received lousy customer service considering it is a "service business." I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun though.
Lessons learned on my end. I no longer take girls back to my hotel room. Just get a short time hotel or go to a massage parlor. If it's a "good" girl you like, don't worry, she'll be around the next day. In Pattaya, you don't lose your girl, you just lose your turn.
I always set the requirements upfront before we agreed to a bar fine. They need to agree to boom boom in the morning before they leave, whatever time that happens to be. We also agree they won’t leave before about 7:00am. Otherwise I bar fine someone else. I always put all my valuables in the safe when I get in the room and take out the money to pay them when they leave. Personally I’ve never had a girl ask for payment before, but it’s been a year so if something has changed I wouldn’t know. I also always book two persons for the room, as you say it doesn’t cost more. Even with all of that I still get a clunker at a times, a girl who changes the agreement. Nothing to do but roll with the punches and get someone new the next night. Never get upset, it can only go bad for you.
Recent trip not one wanted to stay so what to do in morning wasn't an issue. This was the first time this has ever happened. In previous years some wanted to get to know me but it was fairly robotic unfortunately. A few tried it on regarding payment before. I just said no, even got a mamasan involved. I was prepared to walk over this issue. Had enough try to leave prematurely without them already having thr money. Email the hotel before you stay asking if a joiner fee, if they try it then show the email. Print it for extra effect (they love paperwork) . The hotel still take ID when you take someone back even if booked for 2 guests. You can bypass this with some hotels but if you go to the desk they will take it.
Hi Trevor, over the last 2 times I have been to Pattaya I have had 2 very different experiences. The first one is just a normal experience everything went smoothly and paid in the morning then she left. On the second time I went to Pattaya I had somewhat a very different experience. I met the girl in the bar just downstairs, got her line and took her to eat in the morning one time. After this I never paid for anything. No lady drinks no bar fine, no payment, and she only left to go to work sometimes at 3pm and sometimes at 6 pm. It just depended on her. Sometimes she would sneak up to my room to have a quicky during her work hours. I think I got lucky this time I went. and saved a lot of money. I even messed around with another girl in the same bar and didn’t pay and she was fine about it. I’m just wondering if anyone else has had this kind of experience with a bar girl at all? What do you think they are expecting from me?
Wow. Things have changed since the 90's....I'll say "back in the day" morning action was zero factor, as a matter of fact, action whenever was no issue either. Women on overnight (Long time) loved hanging out, and were cool for a little food, and if she was prepared, a swim..... I stayed in a place near the Ambassador Hotel...place from the 'Nam" days, it had a centre courtyard pool which was close enough to the out point of the little balcony on our second (and my buddy's third) floor we were literally jumping off the balcony into the pool (for everyone of the girls it was their first time doing something so crazy; they liked the excitement)! Wild times! Usually they wanted to leave around 12-1 to get ready for their next work day....sometimes, they would simply ask to hangout another day at a discount. This was pretty normal back then....now? things are soooo different (could say ruined in a way) it seems.
I was in Asia from 90 to 91. Our ville was really small. We could sponsor girls onto the base for swimming, pizza, cook outs, bowling, movies, hanging out at the rec center. Our girls were really chill😊
What kind of taxi do you suggest using to take a girl back to the hotel? I have seen it mentioned that a baht bus or bike taxi is fine, but would you suggest those or getting a car taxi instead?
Yes asked to pay first just one time 4 years ago they told me (after I figured out their Tinglish) that some guys thought the bar fine, always paid up front, was the full price
I am a butterfly, 90% of my life, this is who I have been. When in a monogamous relationship, I clipped my wings. Once the relationship ended, my wings grew back. I appreciate your advice. I don't want anyone to lose face. Sounds like I need to be upfront about it just as I am at home.
Most of the people I know who go these days do just that. There was a big discussion on reddit the other day and half the dudes say when they go to pattaya they stay in the room most of the time and use thaifriendly to get girls to the room
Ive never really had a problem. I'm a club guy so most girls I meet don't have to wake up early and we dont even sleep until 7am. So round 2 isnt even until the afternoon then they normally leave around 4pm. I do usually have to say Im meeting friends or some lie...because they always want to stay and go out together.
I barfined a real beauty from Sugar Sugar longtime. We had a very pleasant evening sitting on my balcony in View Talay 6, eating and drinking, then watching tv. The next morning she asked if she could stay longer so I said sure but I cannot pay more, and she said "No promlem I want stay anyway". She stayed 3 nights, I think she just wanted to sleep somewhere really nice because most of these girls live 3 or 4 to a very small room.
@@ponphitchayakanphakdi1809 Well I did say they like a nice room, which obviously includes aircon. Far more comfy than sleeping with 2 or 3 other girls in a tiny hot room.
1. Pay and fire my catch, 2. Coffee on my balcony, 3. Some routine gym and go out for a morning walk direction beach or town, followed by breakfast where I may chat with some nice chaps. If ever she is in a deep coma sleep, I can switch the sequence between 1 and 2. I have been asked to pay in the bar, but never did. I prefer short-time, actually changed the 3-day rule into the 3-hour rule. Line may be exchanged, depending on the service, for a potential next transaction.
Depends on the situation and the woman. I've experienced the very good, bad and the ugly. But as a vet now everything goes very smooth. You live..You learn. But above all, Always secure your valuables. And there are several ways you can do this without ever being noticed.
I bar fined a little cutie and brought her back to the room about 7pm for LT, after about 1 1/2 hrs of action we fell asleep. During the night I eased back into her for round 2 and later round 3. She was so unhappy about being woke up that at 4am she said she was going back to her room to sleep, got dressed and left
@@Buzzinpattaya A big issue is that I have a real problem finishing with a condom due to the reduced sensitivity but considering the reality of what we’re dealing with there is no other option. I’ve also found that despite their attractiveness some of the girls are just not that skilled or enthusiastic when comes to satisfying a man. A totally inferior experience compared to being with a woman who truly cares for you and is also enjoying the intimacy. I realize this is a generalized statement solely based on my own limited encounters or perhaps I was just expecting too much
@@carterhayes4624 You are right on the $. I have the same problem as condoms kill it for me. Can't feel a damn thing so really gotta focus but chances of finishing are low, and if she's a starfish the chances deminish even further. The way acound this is to get her to finish you off manually with no condom. 60% of the time it works every time ;)
Wanted to clearify 3 day rule - is it like if you go with lady 2 days and after 1 day-off you go again with same lady 2 days - is it breaking 3-day rule? Or you just not go out more than 3 times with same lady?
My hotel d hotel booked for 2 people. But they insist that the girls still hand in i. D . But i do agree you pur thing in safe when you get back to room. And check everything when she leaves
I travel with a portable safe that is cabled to the bed frame. Only I know the combination and I used all over the world. No issues yet as you would need heavy duty bolt cutters to remove it.
I went to Kinks agogo bar - second floor is crazy. But to get a girl out early, you need to buy drinks as the girls are reluctant to leave too early. That was my experience. Go late at the earliest 1 am if you want to bring a bar girl to your hotel.
@@marksallai2289 Did that too on Walking Street. Cool clubs. Essentially any girl who is not with a guy is looking to hook up. Much cheaper than Bangkok.
7:48 - About 6 years ago, I stayed at the large double Holiday Inn on Beach Road, nice place. Booked for 2 people. And they still told me If I bring any additional guest, there would be an extra charge. 🙄
Talking about checking everything before a girl leaves in the morning, I put all my valuables in the hotel safe but forgot about my expensive gold ring. Didn't realise she had slipped it off my finger when sleeping. Just a warning!
Great reminders for ex pats and important info for Newbies. I found the best way is to just visit different Gentleman's Clubs or a bar with an "upstairs" Just remember to always. Be with the same girl at each establishment. ALL fees are paid before you leave the bar...
a question off topic a bit.. is there a place in Pattaya in which I can rent a Hobie catamaran sailboat, or any other small sailboat that I can sail myself?
Every time I go to hook up the girl never wants to leave and begs to stay with me and not leave and they start crying when I say I need to be alone is it my looks? I only pay 1000tb per night
thats very solid advice about calli g security and remain calm have sec manage an issue. dont even mention it to her.. which is opposite to farang culture. in my many yrs in siam i have only stayed in 2 bad hotels 1 who minor scammed me and one attempted. both in BKK. Ive always found it an essential mission at everywhere i stay to build firm good raport with the management and hotel im staying at. likewise u end up being return business.
Go in low season at the end of September. "Shoulder" season. Hotels are cheaper, and guest houses even more so (though I haven't tried them myself). Flights can be cheaper too. Rain has rarely been an issue. There is a bus from BKK airport to Pattaya during the day for 130 baht. "Companionship" is the big expense to plan for. It is a fun vacation. 😎
I’m curious what if you make all the prearrangements and agreements, the girl agrees to stay with you until 8 AM, give you another session before leaving, etc. You bar fine her, get her to your room and all of a sudden she’s no longer in the mood, and decides she wants to leave or not stay as long as she agreed. do you still need to give her the 3000 bhat you promised?
The morning after Pattaya for me was a close call to going to Captain’s Mast. Fortunately, I was liberty restricted for 3 ports only to get off liberty restriction in time to go onshore to Phuket. Had a flippin blast in Thailand!
he Trev, all the time i have been coming to Pats, always booked a room for 2, and every hotel has still asked the girl for her ID, which is great, was only the 1st time i came, hotel wanted 1000 baht for the girl i brought back, got rather heated, told the manager i would look for another hotel, he soon backed down
the morning after.... Breakfast buffet at the Lek Hotel or Apex hotel. watching all the old guys eating with the young ladies. Awww heck. 20 years ago that wasn't me. Now at 67 it is me!
in the nighties I was charged a joiner fee of 200 baht in the Cosy Beach Hotel & I hàd a double room When I saw joiner fee on my bill I thought I had done some damage to the room when I was pissed
I met nice Thai girl and we had wonderful time at the beach and then the next day she leave for here village and she wants me to come to Ubon it is over 400 miles away but I’m nervous to go
Yeah I’ve had em leave at 6am to drop their kids off to school then come back after they’ve done that, had others that have stayed up until 6pm then leave to get ready for work.
I have only twice had a LT and on both times it was a pain in the arse. I am a day person more than night and don't like wasting daytime hours. Both times I had LT's I couldn't get the girls to leave until lunch time. I know it sounds selfish and it probably was, but my time out there was limited and I never liked to waste my days. For me, ST is always a winner as you get the same amount of fun followed by a decent nights kip and you're up and ready to enjoy the next day.
I am planning my trip and I 100% agree. My personality appreciates the days vs the nights. LT is likely not a good fit for me. ST seems to be what I will be aiming for.
One of the most pleasant experiences I had was with a slightly older woman I met at the old Bamboo bar. We had drinks and danced a bit. I asked her back to the hotel, and when I asked do you need to go soon, she said "Up to you"...I told her I need to get up at 7ish and eat breakfast. "No problem"...She was wonderful attitude-wise. Smiling all the time. This was the 90's. no smartphones. We had a wonderful time, watched TV...ate some room service, and talked. She was up bright with me, we had some tea and showered...got a surprise there. We didn't talk about money. I gave her an envelope with 1500 baht. That was my rate back then for an all-nighter. Saw her several times after that, all good!
Like taking a milf from the bamboo,always had a good time with them,they know what the game is all about,good service and no dramas
Nice one mate a lot has changed since then
Too bad it can’t be respectable like that anymore.
Loved the bamboo bar back in the 90s. Great night out on the dance floor. And great night back in tge bedroom. Makes me feel quite nostalgic 😆
Does anyone know what the current rate is for ST and LT (over-nighter) in pattaya. Like a range rate for most bars. The first time I did try it at Pattaya I think I got ripped off and I paid the Mamasan upfront and only got 2 hours with the girl 😂 I never went back and stuck with the clubs and the beach walkers 😅
the morning after is a very dangerous moment for our health .Many have suffered a heart attack seeing their night love in the day light without make up and without the effect of alcohol on their body..Some even found that they had extra sausage for breakfast
😂🤣😂
Lol
Exactly. As the old classic goes "what's the difference between a dog and a fox?....10 pints "
I'd just go get another hotel 🤣
😂😂😂happened to my boy on the ship lol was hula tour telling hun later or before whatever it was I don’t remember really
A rule I followed was , get back to my room any valuables will already be in my safe -so what I have on me id simply go for a shower and take phone, wallet etc to bathroom with me - once id come out and the lady goes to the shower everything goes into the safe other than what I owe her in the morning and maybe a few extra hundred baht as a tip if I have fun , nothing on display and never give them any opportunity to get anything
Good rule mate
I'm pleased I found your channel Trevor ,Top stuff 👍🏻 every subject covered brilliant and informative thanks ,The last time I come to Thailand was 15 years ago so I'm in need of a
few tips before I travel to Pattaya in November 2024 for 5 nights then off to Chiang Mai ,and Bangkok can't wait 😉
Awesome, thank you!
great video as always, regarding morning activity, I cuddle up and if I get a reaction carry on.
I pay in the morning.
I met a lady who stayed with me for a few days, she was really nice so I got her booked in with reception they took a photo of her ID so she did not have to book in and give her ID card. she was also a great tour guide. after the first day I never bothered locking things up. Treat the lady with respect and you will get the best rewards
Good stuff!
Professor Trev and his words of wisdom. Great info for newbies. I remember when a hotel would ask for a joiner fee. Even if you booked a double. I was told that because they assume you are drunk and cannot speak Thai, you would just pay. I also remember a time when they were happy to be out of the bar with someone, they would hand your hand and really be excited. I also remember wait staff trying to "Con" you out of your change. You pay with 1000 baht note and all of the sudden you want to leave but your change never came back. (Always remember the number of the wait staff who took your money) go find the mamasan and tell what happened.I also remember the days when the lady appreciated you for how you treated her, she'd call her "Sister" (translator)who translated Thai to English and asked if you wanted another day. This was genuine. If she really appreciated how you treated her and she really wanted to stay but always replied "Up to You" because like you say Trev, they cannot lose face if she says yes, she wants to stay but you say "No Thanks" No longer will you find that kind of sincerity. It's business gents. Make sure you realize that. To ALL, Travel wisely, be safe and please stay healthy. Thanks Trev.
Hahaha no professor mate, an idiot more.like that's made many mistakes lol
You are correct about the current state. I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles.
Then I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest. Often lousy customer service considering it is a "service business."
I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun.
@@sterling557 Well said. When you keep your expectations low, you will not likely be disappointed. Bottom line, it's all business. Travel safe m8!
What ive gained from these vids is ad long as your up front things will go smoothly hopefully, ive never been to Thialand before but im much more confident of when i do go , thanks Trevor lad
Cheers mate and yes up front works best
Learn to spell first!
@@dereksimpson3783 Who? Him or Trev?
Hi Trev, great vlog, thank you for the info. In the line from the play Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare; Juliet is saying good night to Romeo. Their sorrowful parting is also “sweet” because it makes them think about the next time they will see each other. i.e, I can't wait to see you again,,,
Good point!
Listen guys
This channel actually spits wisdom. I gotta give it that. Stick to short time.
Cheers
First time viewer. Excellent video, mate. Cheers.
Wow thanks mate much appreciated
First time there this last February and had kind of an awkward situation. Girl was sleeping like a log and I was afraid she was't gonna wake by the time I had to check out of the hotel. Luckily, I woke up, took a shower, she she was up when I came out... Walked her down, quick goodbye and she was on her way. I did lock everything in the safe the night before for peace of mind though.
They can definitely sleep lol
Very well done video and excellent advice for a topic that can be treated as 'locker room' banter and not seen as a business arrangement. Most Isaan (Isan) women that choose (hopefully) to be bar girls are supporting their parents and/or kids, it's important for them to be successful. They need and should be treated respectfully. I appreciate your mature attitude and creating this video. On a side note at 10:55 I love seeing that Mama's Cafe is still there on Soi 6. I have had some delicious meals there when I needed a break from Thai cuisine. Makes me wonder if that little pup across the street at the jeweler/gold shop is still looking out the window?
Thanks mate much appreciated
Hey , started watching your videos ,interesting and informative my pals and I are gong to start planning to take a trip their ,
Welcome aboard!
very wise words and good advice as always Trevor! another top video!
Thanks mate
Just take 2 at once and have every other day off. Its far better far more fun. Find one u like and ask her to pick the other girl. its so much less stress when you are out. they can chat away if u keep taking one and the same one, often you will get a broken heart. Ive been doing this for almost 30 years and thats the best way if u dont wanna get attached.
Haha nice one
Great video Trev good information.👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Excellent advise Treve! Good video mate.
Thanks 👍
Great information with good humor included. Thanks.
cheers mate
@@Buzzinpattaya Cheers!
Guys, Trev's advice is spot on and covers about 99% of the scenarios you may experience. Of course you may encounter an extremely rare incident (extreme "nutters" or extreme "cling-ons"), but as Mark L says below, "always be nice" and everything should work out or a better chance of it working out 🙂
Thanks mate much appreciated
@@Buzzinpattaya thanks for reply you’re a G!
Absolutely all solid advice! I agree and cannot stress more..THIS IS A BUSINESS! Her time, is money! Please sort all the business out upfront and get all the uncomfortable stuff out of the way! As I always say, “A ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure!”
Good stuff!
Cheers mate
3 hour rule Is best. Someone already said it. I also tell them I like to sleep alone. Great video and great advice in the comments also
Thanks for sharing!!
Really great informative video and it covered everything 👍10/10
Glad you enjoyed it!
I always found LT a hassle. Usually they are hard work to move, when you just want them up and out. For a newbie you may find it difficult, banging doors etc to try and wake them. No chance. Best option is to go for the kill and hopefully get lucky, or if not just tell them you need them out sharpish as you have places to go. Bottom line is don’t be Mr Nicey nice or they will take advantage.
Agree the fee the night before and make sure you and they are not too kissed that you don’t have “fun” when you get back to the hotel or you may find them doing their best starfish impression in the morning.
Always ensure they give their id to the reception. If they don’t have or not asked for then leave her behind and consider changing hotels. Many guys been drugged and robbed by freelancers, some possibly in collusion with staff.
Always check the room when they not just for your valuables but the things they leave behind for an excuse to return that evening and try for another payday.
Great comment mate thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Your words should be a mantra for those who don`t know better and are in need of a guide for such things. Well done that man.
@@poonlikka6174 Cheers mate, much appreciated. There is lots more I can add tbh but I think I highlighted along with Trev the main points.
Or just don't buy prostitutes?
That may be the better solution to this whole problem.
@@keef6586 You and Trev should make a list that can be screenshot.
Great info to prepare for. It’s always better to know what to expect. 😊
Cheers mate
I am a member for 14 months now, I was told in Maggie Mays that I can't use the card there. Even there is a video with you and the manager there, discussing the discount.
Could we get an updated mail about the places where we can use the membercard?
Thanks for this I will speak to Steven
Love the video mate don't think I can eat them but I'm going to give it a try in January thank again
Hope you enjoy
Girl will take a shower before action when you get to the hotel room, that's a good time for you to put your stuff in safe.
ya missing out of the shower stuff, do it all when ya get in, she won't be offended
Best to ask her to keep her makeup on, or else 😂😮.
Also a good time to check for a dick …. Just in case 😂
@@daidavies6210that makes it more fun lil bruh
That's exactly what I do.....put wallet, phone etc in my safe
How do you protect your valuables during short times in massage/gents clubs?
Keep in ya shorts and roll ya shorts up
Hi Trev, can you do a video on where are all the ST hotels.
I can show these yeah mate leave it with me
It was impossible to get em out years ago not sure about now haven't been over for a while but should be finding out come back end of the year its a good subject really for a vid
Cheers mate
Bro you give great advice on your videos
Glad you like them!
25 years old here and been to pattaya once and can attest to everything Trevor has said from A to Z. I bar fined a real looker from a popular gogo, had a great night went to the nightclub after the bar with her friends . Then to the Hotel for some aerobics , Damm near slept until 3pm the morning after. She finally showers and leaves, being the idiot I am I go back to that gogo the following night wanting to meet someone new. Then I see the lovely Jen practically sprint when she see's me and locks me down after each of her songs. Although I honestly cant complain to much I did bar fine her for free the next TWO nights but alas she definitley got attached and so did I a bit. At the end of the day I dont have any regrets.
I've been going to Thailand since I was 21, now 26 and I haven't paid for a female once and I've slept with at least a hundred there.
@@knowledge4741 yeah I’d have some of the girls telling me they’d pay me for it gotta love it
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated and glad you had a great time
@@doubleoz2711
It happens my friend, work on that body and keep a positive vibe. You'll have them over YOU, not the other way around.
Many of these girls just want to have some company, and some fun.
@@knowledge4741 yup, was waiting for these comments.. I’m in my early 30s but still look 25-28 and pulled a few local ones in both Pattaya and BKK but most do look for payments or something out it … a few where down to earth and never asked for anything but I still did leave some money for her as she helped me arrange a local taxi service back to BKK and spent that last few hours at her apartment in Jomtien 😂
Hi Trev great insight, thought I would leave a comment about my first experience in Pattaya only went there because I was working near by for 8 weeks, my first bar fine was on walking street you may remember the go go it was called Alcatraz I got stung all money up front didn't have a clue I was as green as they come the girl I bar fined I stayed with for 10 years
Remember the place well I was their photographer for 3 years, sorry that happened to ya mate
Cheers mate finished last November the pressure to build a house in issan village was to much for me so had to leave and file for devorce
I went pattaya like a week ago for the first time I barfined two different girls from two different go go bars on walking street didn’t know what I was doing and payed up front both times for ST never ran into a problem each time I took a girl out the bar I ended up paying 4500 it was 1000 for the Barfine and 3000 for the girl and and an extra 500 a tip for mamasan I guess and I also payed 500 for a short time hotel each time was I playing the game right or could I have done better?
Sounds fun mate
Credit to Trevor for all his excellent videos on Pattaya. Having just got back from the city and had a wonderful time, I am amazed with the negative dribble people write about the city and her people. If you look down on Pattaya and the people who visit the city then why on earth do you watch these videos? Deep down these same individuals would love to go but never admit it. Speaking to those complaining individuals, believe me when I tell you that you are missing the best experience you would ever have in your life in Pattaya. Pity you'll never experience it and only secreatly dream about it. 🙂
Cheers mate and well said
Always be on your guard. Remember that this is purely business. Overnight stay is asking for problems. You never see a happy Thai girl walking round with a western guy so what’s the point in taking them shopping etc. Say to the girls that you will be visiting the bar a lot and you will be taking other girls home during your stay. If you bring two girls back make them shower together before you do the deed. That gives you time to get your valuables away and even set the camera up if you’re into that sort of thing. Once you’ve done that you can join them in the shower which give you the opportunity to check them out. Best advice I can give is to get the girls out once you finished as you aren’t there to fall in love and that does save the walk of shame in the morning when everyones about. Alcohol does awful things to our eyesight and judgement.
Gotcha mate
I always book a room for 2 however they will still charge for a 3rd on those occasions where you need a buffet.
Most hotels I stay at will still keep their ID & give you the call in the morning.
If you are lucky, and it does happen probably 1/2 the time for me, then they are waking you up in a very nice way.
A connection is very important if you want to maximise the chances of a great time.
I have been to Thailand 18 times now (March 2023) the last time & never & would not pay up front.
Cheers
Gotcha
I always book a room for 2 people too. In Pattaya the hotel staff just smiles when i bring a lady for ST (this was Amber hotel in Pattaya). they never asked for ID. When I was in Phuket best western patong they did do that. So I guess it's different per hotel and per place where you go. I used to go with girls LT, but I must say I like the ST, or if I make a booking LT I say to her let's go from 6pm to 2AM, lets grab food go out for drinks go to the hotel and then lets get you a taxi. That's what works best for me. You always pay after sex. I've had 1 time a girl asked for money BEFORE the sex because she said I was a bit drunk and she was afraid I would forget in the morning... which in all fairness I was. So I payed her before, we had sex and we had another round in the morning. She plundered the mini bar on her way out as her "tip". I just had a laugh and though sure, another 2-300 baht isnt gonna hurt me at this point. Flying tomorrow to BKK, 6th time for me now.
Outstanding video per your usual top notch style! Can u pls lmk if there are any very nice hotels somewhat removed from the center yet still close enough that it does;t make a difference to enjoying the scene?Ideally I would prefer beachfront or beach access.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated, kind sir🙏!
Areca lodge mate is nice
thanks so much!!!
So helpfull video for inexpreience geezers .
Thanks Trevor.
Glad you enjoyed it
Quality, insightful content .
Thanks mate
No matter what you negotiated with her, it is iffy how things turn out. Pay After!
I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles. But I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. (They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest!)
I often received lousy customer service considering it is a "service business."
I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun though.
Spot on
Thank you for sharing
🤗🇺🇲🙏
You are so welcome
Lessons learned on my end. I no longer take girls back to my hotel room. Just get a short time hotel or go to a massage parlor. If it's a "good" girl you like, don't worry, she'll be around the next day. In Pattaya, you don't lose your girl, you just lose your turn.
Yeah makes life far easier
Spot on great advice back in 2024 , been going for 30 yrs lol still learning
cheers mate
I always set the requirements upfront before we agreed to a bar fine. They need to agree to boom boom in the morning before they leave, whatever time that happens to be. We also agree they won’t leave before about 7:00am. Otherwise I bar fine someone else. I always put all my valuables in the safe when I get in the room and take out the money to pay them when they leave. Personally I’ve never had a girl ask for payment before, but it’s been a year so if something has changed I wouldn’t know. I also always book two persons for the room, as you say it doesn’t cost more. Even with all of that I still get a clunker at a times, a girl who changes the agreement. Nothing to do but roll with the punches and get someone new the next night. Never get upset, it can only go bad for you.
At least you know what to expect
Thank you very much for the vidéo. You have a very mature and wise way of looking to situations.
Thanks mate much appreciated
Recent trip not one wanted to stay so what to do in morning wasn't an issue. This was the first time this has ever happened. In previous years some wanted to get to know me but it was fairly robotic unfortunately.
A few tried it on regarding payment before. I just said no, even got a mamasan involved. I was prepared to walk over this issue. Had enough try to leave prematurely without them already having thr money.
Email the hotel before you stay asking if a joiner fee, if they try it then show the email. Print it for extra effect (they love paperwork) . The hotel still take ID when you take someone back even if booked for 2 guests. You can bypass this with some hotels but if you go to the desk they will take it.
wow mate that's a massive change in how it normally happens
And..another..well..done..advice..by..Trevor..thanks.taking..notes..!!!😊
Thanks again!
Hi Trevor, over the last 2 times I have been to Pattaya I have had 2 very different experiences. The first one is just a normal experience everything went smoothly and paid in the morning then she left. On the second time I went to Pattaya I had somewhat a very different experience. I met the girl in the bar just downstairs, got her line and took her to eat in the morning one time. After this I never paid for anything. No lady drinks no bar fine, no payment, and she only left to go to work sometimes at 3pm and sometimes at 6 pm. It just depended on her. Sometimes she would sneak up to my room to have a quicky during her work hours. I think I got lucky this time I went. and saved a lot of money. I even messed around with another girl in the same bar and didn’t pay and she was fine about it. I’m just wondering if anyone else has had this kind of experience with a bar girl at all? What do you think they are expecting from me?
Nice one my friend it sounds like that she really enjoyed spending time with you fair play
nice one more of gf material enjoys your company
Thanks for providing ptactical hints ... keep it going.
Always!
Great advice on checking your belongings.
Thanks for watching!
Totally agree with your advice mate!
Thank you very much
Wow. Things have changed since the 90's....I'll say "back in the day" morning action was zero factor, as a matter of fact, action whenever was no issue either. Women on overnight (Long time) loved hanging out, and were cool for a little food, and if she was prepared, a swim..... I stayed in a place near the Ambassador Hotel...place from the 'Nam" days, it had a centre courtyard pool which was close enough to the out point of the little balcony on our second (and my buddy's third) floor we were literally jumping off the balcony into the pool (for everyone of the girls it was their first time doing something so crazy; they liked the excitement)! Wild times! Usually they wanted to leave around 12-1 to get ready for their next work day....sometimes, they would simply ask to hangout another day at a discount. This was pretty normal back then....now? things are soooo different (could say ruined in a way) it seems.
Haha all change mate as ya said
I met plenty of girls over the past 10 years who were as you described. Perhaps its the bloke not the girl ;)
I was in Asia from 90 to 91. Our ville was really small. We could sponsor girls onto the base for swimming, pizza, cook outs, bowling, movies, hanging out at the rec center. Our girls were really chill😊
Cheers for sharing your experience with us mate
@@Buzzinpattaya thanx
What kind of taxi do you suggest using to take a girl back to the hotel? I have seen it mentioned that a baht bus or bike taxi is fine, but would you suggest those or getting a car taxi instead?
Any is fine mate to be honest
I would suggest grab always but if your only down the street Baht bus
Yes asked to pay first just one time 4 years ago they told me (after I figured out their Tinglish) that some guys thought the bar fine, always paid up front, was the full price
Gotcha mate
I am a butterfly, 90% of my life, this is who I have been. When in a monogamous relationship, I clipped my wings. Once the relationship ended, my wings grew back. I appreciate your advice. I don't want anyone to lose face. Sounds like I need to be upfront about it just as I am at home.
Haha good man thanks for sharing
I don't think the ladyboys care as long as you pay
@@mcluvin65 I imagine you are correct.
great episode
Cheers mate
Excellent advice, Trevor. Thank you. 👍
My pleasure!
With all this said, under the 25 years I've been coming to Pattaya - I've never had any issues with Thai girls stealing anything else than my heart.
Hahaha so true mate
more good advice! been to Thailand several times and I was not sure about any 'morning activities' if you had a LT arrangement :)
Thanks for sharing!
Most of the people I know who go these days do just that. There was a big discussion on reddit the other day and half the dudes say when they go to pattaya they stay in the room most of the time and use thaifriendly to get girls to the room
mmmhhh ... I always booked a room for two adults , but the hotel does keep visitor's ID card anyway. Probably it's different from hotel to hotel ?!?
Gotcha
Valuable informstion. Thanks you
You are welcome
How are the hotels availability if you don’t book package deal and just fly over ?
Right now pretty good but high season best to book
@@Buzzinpattaya when is high season?
@@R.R.chandar November - February. Higher hotel and flight prices. Book as early as possible. Seems like everybody is going this year.
Ive never really had a problem. I'm a club guy so most girls I meet don't have to wake up early and we dont even sleep until 7am. So round 2 isnt even until the afternoon then they normally leave around 4pm. I do usually have to say Im meeting friends or some lie...because they always want to stay and go out together.
hahaha as long as it works mate
If you do book a room for 2 can you just tell reception for them to keep id's for all your guests?
Yes mate if you feel safer
Common in Cuba back in the day
I barfined a real beauty from Sugar Sugar longtime. We had a very pleasant evening sitting on my balcony in View Talay 6, eating and drinking, then watching tv. The next morning she asked if she could stay longer so I said sure but I cannot pay more, and she said "No promlem I want stay anyway". She stayed 3 nights, I think she just wanted to sleep somewhere really nice because most of these girls live 3 or 4 to a very small room.
Nice one mate
@@ponphitchayakanphakdi1809 Well I did say they like a nice room, which obviously includes aircon. Far more comfy than sleeping with 2 or 3 other girls in a tiny hot room.
1. Pay and fire my catch, 2. Coffee on my balcony, 3. Some routine gym and go out for a morning walk direction beach or town, followed by breakfast where I may chat with some nice chaps. If ever she is in a deep coma sleep, I can switch the sequence between 1 and 2. I have been asked to pay in the bar, but never did. I prefer short-time, actually changed the 3-day rule into the 3-hour rule. Line may be exchanged, depending on the service, for a potential next transaction.
Very good!
What is the 3 day rule snd why
After 3 days you possibly start getting too attached and start to have feelings etc ....
@Buzzinpattaya thank you
I like that freelancer bar down suk soi 7 (the beergarden) in bkk. Just no frills and cheap drinks. Girls are friendly and it's no BS
Gotcha mate
Depends on the situation and the woman. I've experienced the very good, bad and the ugly. But as a vet now everything goes very smooth. You live..You learn. But above all, Always secure your valuables. And there are several ways you can do this without ever being noticed.
It's all about experience for sure mate
I bar fined a little cutie and brought her back to the room about 7pm for LT, after about 1 1/2 hrs of action we fell asleep. During the night I eased back into her for round 2 and later round 3. She was so unhappy about being woke up that at 4am she said she was going back to her room to sleep, got dressed and left
Lol whoops
@@Buzzinpattaya A big issue is that I have a real problem finishing with a condom due to the reduced sensitivity but considering the reality of what we’re dealing with there is no other option. I’ve also found that despite their attractiveness some of the girls are just not that skilled or enthusiastic when comes to satisfying a man. A totally inferior experience compared to being with a woman who truly cares for you and is also enjoying the intimacy. I realize this is a generalized statement solely based on my own limited encounters or perhaps I was just expecting too much
@@carterhayes4624 You are right on the $. I have the same problem as condoms kill it for me. Can't feel a damn thing so really gotta focus but chances of finishing are low, and if she's a starfish the chances deminish even further. The way acound this is to get her to finish you off manually with no condom. 60% of the time it works every time ;)
Wanted to clearify 3 day rule - is it like if you go with lady 2 days and after 1 day-off you go again with same lady 2 days - is it breaking 3-day rule? Or you just not go out more than 3 times with same lady?
3 consecutive days mate
@@Buzzinpattaya ok then, i am still ok it seems ✊
My hotel d hotel booked for 2 people. But they insist that the girls still hand in i. D . But i do agree you pur thing in safe when you get back to room. And check everything when she leaves
Will the real Andy Cap please stand up, says Flo 😮. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery 😂👍.
Gotcha mate
I travel with a portable safe that is cabled to the bed frame. Only I know the combination and I used all over the world. No issues yet as you would need heavy duty bolt cutters to remove it.
Fair.play to that
Do you get a receipt
Do you want one?
LOL
For a full day how much it’s usually cost?
Varies so so much
I went to Kinks agogo bar - second floor is crazy. But to get a girl out early, you need to buy drinks as the girls are reluctant to leave too early. That was my experience. Go late at the earliest 1 am if you want to bring a bar girl to your hotel.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
or go night club a lot agogo girls freelance there after
@@marksallai2289 Did that too on Walking Street. Cool clubs. Essentially any girl who is not with a guy is looking to hook up. Much cheaper than Bangkok.
7:48 - About 6 years ago, I stayed at the large double Holiday Inn on Beach Road, nice place. Booked for 2 people. And they still told me If I bring any additional guest, there would be an extra charge. 🙄
Ouch that's not good
maybe they meant more than 2 people
Talking about checking everything before a girl leaves in the morning, I put all my valuables in the hotel safe but forgot about my expensive gold ring. Didn't realise she had slipped it off my finger when sleeping. Just a warning!
Wow that's bloody devious
15:37 - At the start, tell them you are a Butterfly yes? I’m pretty sure I gleaned that from one of your previous videos.
Haha all good.mate
problem for me is in the morning the alcohol has worn off and she gets scared looking at me.
Lol
That's a good story, very articulate.
Cheers mate
Great reminders for ex pats and important info for Newbies. I found the best way is to just visit different Gentleman's Clubs or a bar with an "upstairs" Just remember to always. Be with the same girl at each establishment. ALL fees are paid before you leave the bar...
Great tip!
a question off topic a bit.. is there a place in Pattaya in which I can rent a Hobie catamaran sailboat, or any other small sailboat that I can sail myself?
Ask Scott Finsten at Ocean Marina
If you are a reciprocal club member - Royal Varuna Yacht Club
@@markwilliams369 lol.. a yacht club... I just want to rent a little 16' hobie.
Every time I go to hook up the girl never wants to leave and begs to stay with me and not leave and they start crying when I say I need to be alone is it my looks? I only pay 1000tb per night
Fair one
A 1000 a night? It must be your looks
your videos are so good and educational
Thank you very much mate
@@Buzzinpattaya im planning to go in decembar and i dont want to be taken to the cleaners 😂 thank you
thats very solid advice about calli g security and remain calm have sec manage an issue. dont even mention it to her.. which is opposite to farang culture.
in my many yrs in siam i have only stayed in 2 bad hotels 1 who minor scammed me and one attempted. both in BKK. Ive always found it an essential mission at everywhere i stay to build firm good raport with the management and hotel im staying at. likewise u end up being return business.
Worked for me
Been watching videos on Pataya for 5-6 years and I still haven’t been able to come there yet. I guess if it hasn’t happened, probably won’t. ?
Hang in there and never say never
Go in low season at the end of September. "Shoulder" season. Hotels are cheaper, and guest houses even more so (though I haven't tried them myself). Flights can be cheaper too. Rain has rarely been an issue. There is a bus from BKK airport to Pattaya during the day for 130 baht. "Companionship" is the big expense to plan for. It is a fun vacation. 😎
I’m curious what if you make all the prearrangements and agreements, the girl agrees to stay with you until 8 AM, give you another session before leaving, etc. You bar fine her, get her to your room and all of a sudden she’s no longer in the mood, and decides she wants to leave or not stay as long as she agreed. do you still need to give her the 3000 bhat you promised?
Tell her to leave and give her taxi money
@@Buzzinpattaya OK! I just didn’t know if there was some sort of legal consequences that could take place.
Just take her back to the bar and speak to the mamasan and come to a mutual arrangement with the girl, that should work and there is no loss of face.
The morning after Pattaya for me was a close call to going to Captain’s Mast. Fortunately, I was liberty restricted for 3 ports only to get off liberty restriction in time to go onshore to Phuket. Had a flippin blast in Thailand!
nice one mate
he Trev, all the time i have been coming to Pats, always booked a room for 2, and every hotel has still asked the girl for her ID, which is great, was only the 1st time i came, hotel wanted 1000 baht for the girl i brought back, got rather heated, told the manager i would look for another hotel, he soon backed down
yeah charging you when ya booked for two is wrong
Great advice and very informative 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
the morning after.... Breakfast buffet at the Lek Hotel or Apex hotel. watching all the old guys eating with the young ladies. Awww heck. 20 years ago that wasn't me. Now at 67 it is me!
haha good man
in the nighties I was charged a joiner fee of 200 baht in the Cosy Beach Hotel & I hàd a double room
When I saw joiner fee on my bill I thought I had done some damage to the room when I was pissed
ouch mate lol
As you said it's a business - morning activities, price, number if shots and what activities should be agreed before you leave the bar👍
Exactly mate
I met nice Thai girl and we had wonderful time at the beach and then the next day she leave for here village and she wants me to come to Ubon it is over 400 miles away but I’m nervous to go
If you just met her then STEER CLEAR, wait until you actually get to know her properly
Thank you 🙏
@@Baloothesmokingbear As Trev said, that's a BIG RED FLAG, run for your life!!
@@Aran002 thank you for advice
Yeah I’ve had em leave at 6am to drop their kids off to school then come back after they’ve done that, had others that have stayed up until 6pm then leave to get ready for work.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
Tuesday check in 👋. Good advice as always 👍
Well played again champ. 🎉
@Raymond Turner Thanks Raymond, close again 👍
You got this! BOSH!
I have only twice had a LT and on both times it was a pain in the arse. I am a day person more than night and don't like wasting daytime hours. Both times I had LT's I couldn't get the girls to leave until lunch time. I know it sounds selfish and it probably was, but my time out there was limited and I never liked to waste my days. For me, ST is always a winner as you get the same amount of fun followed by a decent nights kip and you're up and ready to enjoy the next day.
Nothing worse than trying to get on with ya day and ya can't
I am planning my trip and I 100% agree. My personality appreciates the days vs the nights. LT is likely not a good fit for me. ST seems to be what I will be aiming for.
If it’s a pain in the arse you need to reverse what you’re doing.
@@Buzzinpattaya Absolutely! And a Thai girl definitely knows how to stretch a lie in out from my experience!!