Okay the first part you were talking about the Sleeping all day issue, that is caused by Metabolism, not Thai Culture. If the Girl was working at Night every night, she develops a certain sleep pattern around her Work schedule, then you come along and what to flip her whole world upside down over night. 😁 It is NEVER going to work like that, because of SCIENCE not Thai Culture. The Body cannot flip your Metabolism around like flicking a light Switch. So if you want her to be up and ready to go in the Morning you have to get her to bed Early in the Evening. Do this for a couple of days and the problem is Solved. But of course you have to be Smart enough to understand the problem in the first place. 😁 Next the Jealousy factor; I don't usually have that problem because I do a lot of "Shopping" before I PICK which girl I want, then I screen her for Mental Issues and Trust, and if she passes those Tests, then I steady Bar Fine her right away, and then, we are Off on Vacation. We are not going back to the Bars AT ALL, Why Would I? I already made my choice. If you are screwing around like you are just messing with the Girl's head, of course she is going to get upset, because you are acting like you are not sure what you are doing, so SHE is going to feel emotionally all fked up too. You SHOULD be acting like you know what you are doing, and IF you KNOW what you are doing, then you have no reason to be hanging out in the Bars. There was one exception I told the Girls I wanted to have big Party with all Girls, and I got a Place and about 10 girls and had a private party. But if I am Steady Bar fining a Girl, there is no reason to be hanging out in the Bars. We are GOING places, Going to Bangkok, or going to other Islands, or Movies or Shows or Discos, we have enjoying each other's company like we are Serious about it. If you are not doing that, then you are screwing with the girl's head, and you should be careful if you screw with a Thai girl's head cause she might Rob you and you would never know it. Next the buying stuff situation; Like I said, when I first meet the Girl I screen em, test them for Trust, if they pass the Trust Test, I will give them $1000 worth of Bhat and say "You pay for everything" Why? Because she is going to get a cheaper Price for EVERYTHING. That is going to save me Money, AND she is going to want to go Shopping, that is a natural fact of Life, what Girl DOESN'T want to go Shopping? If you can't afford to buy her something, DON'T TAKE HER! You're just causing yourself problems if you do. If you give her some Money, let her be in Charge of paying for everything, she is going to feel like you Trust her, and she will ask "can I buy this" and I always say "Sure Tii Rak go ahead" If you aren't saying that, then that's YOU and YOU are the problem not Her. My Thai Girls Love me, My Thai Girls would die for me, I had them save me from Bad guys several times, but I never had to worry about any of my Girls. I always take care of them, and they always take care of me. Lastly the Long Term Decision, that's the thing that broke me most times, it's not sending her Money, I can DO that, it's the Dowry! Usually it's an insane amount of money and I just say no. But I think the next time (if i don't get a Russian Girl) I'm just gonna get her Pregnant then she can't refuse. Then I'm sure the price of the Dowry is going to drop drastically. 😁 Yeah I DO think your advice about taking it slow is probably a good idea. But I think it is also a good idea to plan everything backwards first. Imagine the Dowry, (and you didn't talk about that) Imagine the Wedding (Which is also outrageous) and if you CAN'T imagine the Dowry and the Wedding, then you already know you are not doing the long term. But if you CAN imagine the Dowry and the Wedding, then plan and discuss how much you can send her. Know how much that is going to be, before you even pay the Steady Bar Fine. Then you will know what to expect.
wow mate what a reply!!! I reckon by the time you sussed all that out it will be time to go home hahaha. great comment mate, enjoyed reading that thank you!
Good all round assessment. Screening them for mental instability is the initial step (very important) unless your intentions are, just to have a fleeting encounter. Merry Christmas and HNY.
That must have been a school paper for you …. In any case I would keep her on the same schedule cause I don’t want her falling asleep at 3 am when I roll her and have at it. If you what I mean. I don’t want to break any of those good habits. 😂
Instead of the risk of being hooked in Thailand, you could fall for a girl at home, marry her, invest years in the relationship, then be taken for the house, half your income and pension.
I see guys making comments about paying for sex in a way that is a put down to those paying bar girls. Truth be told, every man pays for sex, be it his bar girl, hooker, girlfriend, wife, side chick, whatever, any woman you have a sexual relationship with, you pay one way or another. That is an indisputable fact. Who you pay or how you pay, is your decision, but you all pay!
100% truth. Tell every western woman you go on a date with that everything will be split 50/50 for the rest of your life and see if you get a second date.
The #1 rule is Never Never get lust n love confused. Always remember think with the big head not your little head. Enjoy your time in Thailand but be smart n use Common Sense.
Met a girl in thailand in a bar, payed her money. She had a car, which was awesome, as she drove me all over the place, we went to so many cool places and safe rather than a nasty scooter. We stayed together some nights, others i said i wanted some alone time (recent break up etc), it worked out beautiful, she accepted that. When i left, she drove me to the airport and she thanked me for how i had been; honest and also fun to be with. We left with no strings attached and still texting about our life. She is married with a French guy, ive been through one and she still supported and helped me through that time and still we talk. I guess I was lucky. Payed for 2 weeks and no hard feelings since i was honest.
American here full-time since 2009. Your post is the first one I have ever seen which actually tells the truth. Fantastic. Newbies will all say "...But, my Thai girlfriend is different..." Never commit to a second night until the day after. And, never for more that one night at a time
Ten years ago, I find the love of my life in a bar in Pattaya. We got married in my country and for 6 years she has her own business here. We have a wonderful life together. She loves my country. We visit Thailand every other year to see her family and our friends in Pattaya. So happy relationships occur sometimes.
If you choose to be involved with a Thai girl while on holiday be prepared to spend lots of cash,but look on it as the best bits of marriage with out the long term agro.
Your spot on mate. You laid it out truthfully. I'm an expat here for 20 years. I just want to ask the guys coming here to treat these girls with respect and curtisy. They do this to feed their families. And they are human being, not rental cars. Take the girl out for coffee and get to know them. Then make a decision. Please be a gentleman with these girls.
@@raptorhacker599 Doesn't fucking matter dude. These are people with feelings. These aren't fucking sex robots. What a disgusting way to view someone who's services you patronage.
As a 72 year old white male I'm starting to wonder if my 19 year old Thai girl is only with me for my money, I've discussed it with her other 10 british boyfreinds and we are all starting to worry
This is the absolute BEST documentary I have ever seen in one of these forums. This gentleman does an EXCELLENT job of presenting the information. The inclusion of extensive street scene video is brilliant.
But I think some of the most deceptive evil chicks are the ones who play the long game playin the wife routine !!The whole routine as goody chick knowing their going to blowing the neighbor twenty years down the the line to devastate you the most!! They know the goody play image to put up a front to present a marriage facade but that's all part of the pre planned trap which if it doesn't devatate a guy at very least soaks his assets
Words to live by for sure. I met a girl in Hua Hin. 6 years ago. Took her for a night,9 days later. She was still there. Not the best looking. Sex was not that great. I just had this connection with her. Now we have a home in Surin that I had built. I’m in the process of finally moving to Surin. It was a ruff few years early on. She even punched me once for putting my hand on the shoulder and saying good night to one of the girls. I had to learn how to adjust to a Issan girl. She is a wonderful girl and takes really good care of me. She keeps a good home. She is up early every morning getting her Daughter ready for school. She is 7. She has completely changed my life. I enjoy her so much. She has never asked me for a penny. She is very frugal. She actually teaches me how to spend less in Thailand. She is still jealous but it’s me who of course loves to see all those beautiful girls running around Thailand. Now to see how I do living full time in Surin. This May I’ll make the move. We have a beautiful home. Surin is not the hippest place in Thailand but it’s getting better. More food choices. I see more coming. One day at a time. Your comments are so true. Caution is needed.
Absolutely agree with you ! It happen to me in 2011 in Bangkok and I promise myself before making any more decision on long term relationship while in Asia I'm take a long cold shower by myself and if you still feel the same warm and fuzzy feelings get back the shower ! And call a cab or bolt .
Been there lately. I saw a freelancer 3 days in a row and truth to be said I got emotionally attached to her but did not tell her. On the other side she said she is having feelings and she hated that she is getting attached to me. She cried the day we said goodbye. It was going to end a day or another. We are all humans.
Pool on the roof, eating out, going to the mall, shopping for ear rings, going to the Temple, incense, drinking beers while listening to live music; hitting the bars. Had a great time with my beerbar girl, paid bar fine 4 nights, got together with one of her friends, double dating. She spent 4 nights with me, amazing time. Found her at an inexpensive beer bar, NOT Walking St., much better prices. She fell in love with me; I had a planned time to leave, she helped me pack to go back to the airport. I needed a quick intro, the mama-san came thru; my new friend showed me around the city, we heard all the live music, she knew where to go, what time, what nights. Amazing people that will open their hearts to you; don't abuse it.
YES SOME OF THESE GIRLS ARE LOOKING TO FIND A GOOD MAN TO TREAT HER NICE, SOME ARE EVEN LOOKING FOR A GOOD HUSBANDS..... NEVER LET WHAT SHES DONE IN HER LIFE SCARE U AWAY, SOME GIRLS LIKE THAT MAKE THE BEST WIVES, IVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND.....
Every guy that told me he was coming to Thailand (including myself) made rules 1 and 2. Every guy I met that came to Thailand (including myself) broke both rules and were very happy with the results.
After 16 years of traveling to Pattaya myself on and off ...Trevor really says it at it is. Listen to his advise and so honestly accurate... Listen to his wise words of experience and hopefully it will save your ass & assets. Thanks Trevor that you do these blogs for Newbies 🙏🙏🙏
A long time ago I made the mistake of knowing a bar girl for around 2 weeks. She convinced me to visit her family in Issan. I was dumb and didnt know any better so I said yes. We took an 8 hour taxi ride and the first place we arrived at was a restaurant. I had no idea what was going on. I sat down at a table with around 40 Thai people sitting and eating. It turned out that her dads niece was getting married and the entire extended family was there. I did not order anything and was only there a few minutes when they handed me the bill to pay for everything. I looked at her like WTF is this? She gave me this look like, please don't embarrass me. So I went ahead and paid for it. It was only like 1,600 baht or something anyway. Later we leave and we go to the hotel where her family was staying. I was standing next to the truck and further away near the entrance of the hotel the girl and her parents were talking. Several minutes later the girl, her brother and sister and myself were sitting in the back of the truck. I looked over and the girl was crying her eyes out and sobbing uncontrollably. I asked her what was wrong and eventually she told me that her parents were yelling at her because I had not bought them a house yet. (After only knowing her for 2 weeks) I told her I was never coming there again. We then arrived back in Pattaya and I left her in the hotel room while I went out to use the ATM and then go buy some T-shirts. I was gone for around an hour and when I came back to the room she had cut both of her wrists open and said that she thought I was with a girl and then went on to tell me that If I ever had a baby with her and she caught me with another woman that she would kill the baby. I told her to get all of her belongings and get out of my hotel room. I blocked her and never talked to her again. There are levels of crazy.
Women! They are crazy in general but some more than others. It is ALL about the $$$$$$! It is. They look at us as walking ATM’s! Why I am still free and single and loving it! Don’t get married! 😎
I took a 21yr old - a true 10 out of 10 in Bangkok. We checked into the state tower and got a beautiful suite. We had drinks food and some fun. When I didn't tip her her normal 1500 Bot for the fun we had she claimed to have to go help her brother who had an accident on his motorcycle. I thought the 30,000 bot I paid was a lot and should have been good for all night. Don't under estimate how much these woman make. Over the next 2 days she came up with every excuse to not come back. I felt she was seeing every guy she could to put in her bank account without paying the normal bar fees- that I took carebof for the entire noght. When I told her I would pay the 1500 each time she miraculously showed up again. Bottom line. These girls are paid for their fun and don't think they will fall in love with you. They will do whatever they can to get the most money out of you then move on. Always remember these woman are prodessional call girls. You are one in 15 D"s they satisfy daily if they are young and hot. Do you really think they want an older balding possibly overweight American for anything more than his money and possible escape of their hard life? Hope this helps. Great channel!
The jealousy your date gets when another girl is looking at you is not because she loves you, but because she stands to lose money (from you) to someone else.
“The only way to buy love for money is to buy a dog.” - Albert Camus (French philosopher, author, and journalist. Awarded the 1957 Nobel Prize in Literature, 1913-1960)
I have been married for 26 years. In the early 90's i spent almost 2 years in the Philippines in an area that provided similar entertainment to what I understand can be found in Thailand. I agree that mixing emotions with the business transaction is a mistake. There was a saying back then, "You can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl.". This was true the vast majority of the time (maybe 99%). The chances that you have found the "One" are very small. I ended up marrying a Filipina, but she was not a bar worker and I met her after I moved back to the USA. By all means, have a great time but do not expect to find the love of your life in a bar.
In general, in all geographical locations, if you are looking for marriage, it pays to not fish in polluted waters. A church, where you can meet an eligible girl with her family present, ups the odds considerably. I can't speak for Thailand, but in the Philippines, they are mostly Catholic, but there are Protestant churches in the larger cities, and a few in some of the smaller ones.
I've been going thailand almost 25 yrs, u must be very careful, if your the type that also gets attached fast, stick with only short times, much safer, many bar girls I know all have many sponsors sending them monthly allowances, they all think girl is in village, but truth is when u get on the plane, she's back in the bar. And reason she don't answer the phone is its too noisy.
Hi Trevor. Another good vlog. I’ve been going to Thailand since 2003. Every year bar Covid. The secret is simple for tourists. Never take a girl out of a bar that you frequent and like to chill and have a drink in. Never take the same girl or any girl for long time. Do the business and say bye bye. Don’t spend all your holiday in the same place. I arrive Bangkok for first three nights, head off to Patong for a week, then another week in Pattaya and final three nights in Bangkok. Ok it’s a little more expensive but that is why we are called the 2-3 week millionaires. The girls remember you even next year. No hassles, or expectations when you explain you’re a butterfly. Don’t haggle about price just finish beer and walk onto next bar. You will enjoy your HOLIDAY a lot more and every time if you stick to the simple rules. Cheers🍺🇹🇭😂.
So I want to understand you,ve been going to Thailand for more then 19 years. And you never ever stayed with a lady long time, as in more then 12 hours or 1 day. I ,ve been going and lived on different occasions for more then 28 years. What your saying is a little hard to believe. But if it,s true then I suggest trying some for more then 3 or 4 days. Because some ladies don't really relax for at least 2 days around you, then it gets really interesting. Seeya mate cheers.
Hi Pietro. Seriously the most time I’ve spent with a girl is an overnight once or twice when I first started going. Trying to get rid the next day was more hassle than it’s worth. Remember I’m there on holiday. Really not interested in long term or long distance relationships. I’ve seen a few of my mates fall foul and they are pretty much now the same opinion. Each to their own and if it’s good for you then more power to you. I’ll be downing a beer or three at the Lovely Corner watching the sun go down over the bay in January, fingers crossed. Good luck next time you’re there. 🍺🇹🇭
Yeah sure mate it ain't all great, all the time, but like I said it depends on the lady. Sure they all want something it's how you dodge the pitfalls that count. Like I said a little respect and a bit of fun with them goes a long way. Oh yeah and of course a little lingo in Thai, Lao, or Khmer. Helps cheers to you mate 👍
@@gregormitchell1378 OH yeah mate as you said each to there own, if you enjoy going around seeing different places that's great. But that's alright if you're there for 6 weeks maybe 2 or 3 months. Otherwise you sit around in Airports to much. My holidays are meant for relaxing and taking it easy. I don't want to land somewhere and know that I got to go again in 3 or 4 days 1 week later. I want to have time to party a little enjoy the place. That's why when I go I rarely stay under 4 weeks. Just more time to relax. Cheers 🍻
I live in Thailand, my wife is Thai, we have been together nearly 19 years and I adore, her she is as perfect as I can imagine. Not soft and submissive, but a real tough and smart person that is industrious and looks after me well, just as I look after her. Imagine old fashion man does his bit girl does her bit; not like the 'uptight' West at all. Family here in Thailand comes first so if you do want the girl you need to respect the mum. My tip is wait three years before marrying anyone wherever you are. Please also keep in mind when you meet a bar girl, that they are human, they have dreams for a nice future. They are often stuck in their role and a nice farrang is a dream way out. All my pals have successful marriages to Thai girls.
19 years ? Today we have 2024 - i only see prostitutes in Pattaya.Prices go up, now the indian pay in the disco 5.000 for 2 shot. - Pur prostitution. - And the girls love this easy life: party ! loud music, free drinks, more free drinks, free beer, free vodka and sex sex and sex. - International sex: india !!, german, england, australia and every man wants to pay more than the other one. Plus the man from Dubai who perhaps send 100.000 Baht per month. - That is Thailand. - Beware and never think: my girl is better ... now we have 2024 and everything is very professional.
Don't fall in love with a prostitute! Pretty simple, it's a business transaction, like renting a car or scooter for a week, don't abuse it, return it in the same condition you received it and walk away with good memories.
Met an old geezer in a bar in Spain once and we shared a few beers ,he was waiting to pickup his half Indonesian son from school . When I returned the following year I inquired about him and was told that he had hung himself using a bed sheet tied to a balcony he threw himself off in broad daylight . His wife found a decent job and didn’t need him anymore so she left him and got her son to disown his Dad. Moral of the story ….. Rent don’t Buy.
Long stays are bad! I came for two weeks and 1 month later I got an overseas job and moved to Pattaya. 16 yrs later we are married, have a house in Pattaya, and a farm in P-lok and 2 kids. She handles everything in the household and I just work (internationally) and play computer games. Soon I will retire and spend the rest of my life on the beach with a responsible woman and no headaches. I can think of worse outcomes, but I think I was just lucky.
Idk about others but I went to bkk after a bad breakup found an amazing freelancer, paid her 15k baht for 6 days (24 hours) along with food and drinks ofc. Partied a lot, got full GFE, had some intimate chats. Sure I didn't get over my ex back home but I did enjoy the time I was with my temp Thai friend.
Last time i was in Thailand ended up staying at a bar girls place for the whole 2 months on darkside. She didn't cause one problem. Most days i was up earlier than her and wanted to go out. Id wake her up never a problem. My honest opinion of the 20+ yrs going to Thailand is, its not so much the Thais who are the problem. My personal experience is most of the expats especially on the darkside are racist, alcoholics and extremely jealous with any visitor coming in their bars and taking (in their own mind) their girls and they will have no problem telling you. Believe when i say i know most of the owners of the bars/restaurants around darkside. My advise with spending any lengthy time with a Thai lady is don't assume you understand them or their culture but always show a willing to learn and respect their way of life. No different than what we would expect from our tourists/immigrants coming/moving to our country. Treat them like a human and not a bit of meat which I'm sad to say is far to common out there. At the end of the day their only doing that job to support their families at home who can't afford healthcare and education etc. Usually married at a young age and given a child when thai man leaves them and refuses to support them. It leaves the girls two choices work in a factory for about a rough estimate of 6k baht a month, whilst being looked down at their family for not keeping the marriage afloat. Or pass their children onto their parents who then are forced to stop working so the girl can go work in a bar for about 6/8k baht salary that's without drinks/short-long time tips depending which area she works. Its a ruthless country with no benefit system to help them in anyway if they don't make money they don't eat its that simple.
"Remember guys, this is a business.." It's always a business with EVERY woman. Something of value MUST be exchange or she won't be with you. Love is bullcrap. I've seen in many times in my line of work. A man gets into a serious accident, is handicapped, and no longer provides the goodies the woman / wife liked, and she stays around a while to be polite, but the first man that can give her better value, she's gone. Happens everytime. So this isn't just a Pattaya thing.
Women cost money. Before money was invented you still had to provide something of value for her to be with you. Like food. Protection. Women are human. They have their own agendas.
This is wonderful advise that you've given. I learned the hard way. 4 trips to Thailand, up to 5 weeks at a time with the same girl. Even met her family in Ubon ...As far as money, stick to a budget w/ cushion room. The more trips, the more that you learn how to get more for your money. As far as your mind, be prepared to lose it. As far as your heart, guard it like it's a gold mine or you could find it shattered. It's been 19 yrs. since I've been back. Last time was in Phuket twice the year of the tsunami. If I'd been there one month later, I wouldn't have been able to write this. I wanted to go back to help out but they wouldn't allow tourists during the clean up. I was devastated thinking about the many people that I'd met that to this day don't know if they survived or not. My advise is to go, have fun, lose your mind. But guard your money and your heart.
I am an American married to a Thai woman in Bangkok. After 4 years we are getting divorced. I am amazed by how much spot on advice that you give about Thai woman and experiences with them. If I had found your channel earlier it would of saved me from a lot of misunderstandings with Thai woman. I learned the differences of their culture the hard way usually hurting or offending a woman and not even knowing it util it was to late. I'll be returning to Thailand in a few weeks and I feel that I owe you a pint or two. Thanks for the great updates and info!
First time I went to Thailand I met a stunning girl in dubai airport, mid 20s. She openly told me she had a bf in dubai and wasn't shy about coming sit next to me on the plane and later meeting me in Bangkok. Because I didn't want to ruin her relationship I let her chat on the laptop and I just nipped out for a bit. For me it was just abit of fun. She was pretty boring, crap in bed and then to top it off she got food poisoning so was sick for fair few days. I ended up sending her home. Just shows u how fast they can go with someone else. She hadn't even left dubai airport and already she was onto someone else! Since I've been with same woman for seven yrs my age and all is good.what u have to realise about many of these bar girls, it isn't a moral issue but more a monetary issue. Many are in severe debt hence why they work in the bars to pay it off. If you get involved long term you will inherit those debts.
I've been coming to Thailand since 1991 and have had 4 women over all those years that I spent more than a day with. The first lady I was with for 4 days. I wanted to explore more of Thailand and took her with me to Pattaya. She told me she hated it in Pattaya and I sent her on her way. The next lady I met in Pattaya the next day at a beer bar. Seen her sitting at a desk doing paperwork and told one of the ladies there I wanted to talk to her. I spent the next 6 days with her. I ended up going back 3 months later and married her, were together for 15 years. It got really ugly when we divorced. She told everyone lies about me. If I find another love it will have to be someone who does not work in a bar.
Having been Divorced 3 times all of the ex wives never had a good word to say about me so a Thai divorce will also be the same. Rejection hurts so they fight back to hurt you. Chin up move on. Married for a 4th time to a wonderful Thai girl.
About 7 year ago I long timed a girl in samui for a week. We really got on with each other great and she was such a character as well. One of those girls you can't forget. In any event, holiday finished and went back home. We semi kept in touch over messenger The next holiday I decided not to meet her even though I seen her on the beach but she didn't see me. We still semi kept in touch via messenger The next holiday I seen her again at a parade in Pattaya. This time I decided to go over to her and we spent 6 weeks traveling Thailand together. We even met her father. We had such a great time together. Holiday finished and went back home. She also went back to her village to keep away from "the scene" We heavily kept in touch, video calls everyday ect. Making plans for her to come to UK, talking about marriage all the usual loved up stuff. I also helped her financially. Say about £250 a month. But I never followed up with my plans of getting her over here with me in UK also the helping her financially started to become a burden and was wearing thin. Then covid hit and everything went to shit. Maybe I was looking for an excuse not to commit. We grew more and more distant and eventually it ended. Now she's married to a Thai man. Do I feel used? Meh, at one point I did when it was all raw. Now I don't feel bad about it. It's a shame it didn't work out for us. But that's life. I'm going back over to Thailand for 90 days later on in the year. Now that's she married I 100% won't be getting in touch or meeting her. I've decided that Thailand is Thailand and I won't become so involved with someone over there again. The odds are just stacked against you too much Oh, and she has rang me a few times since she got married but I refuse to answer
I live in North America and have gone through 2 long term relationships and each time they wanted more then they were worth or deserve. Short term is the best way the older you become. Who wants to be a pensioner losing half your security? Guys smarten up and don’t cower to the pussy cat. We guys give women to much power and all they have to do is use their body while we lose our mind and house.
My first trip I made that decision to take a girl for the week. Well, when I was getting ready to leave I found myself "in love" is the best way to put it. We had a great time, so we made an agreement, when she broke it, I broke it off. If you also look at it as a "business" decision ( Which we all know it is literally that way with them especially bar girls) and they break the terms, you have the same recourse. They might not like it, but that is the way it is. Next trip in May is going to be totally different. My name says it all this trip lol.
Another great video and amazing advises 👏I have been visiting thailand for years at least 3 times a year and i just came back home last week with a broken heart, this time I made absolutely the same mistake with a gogo bar girl. But I made a plan to expose her on my last night and it saved me from a future headache. Can I share what I did to expose her and could u please mention about it in one of ur future videos? I don’t really wanna hear or see any of the guys here to go through this terrible pain by doing the same mistake for falling for a girl in Pattaya or in general in Thailand. Hopefully be back before the new year and see u there☺️
Went the other route. I spent two years courting a Chinese lady in Beijing. Worked as an export manager for a French pharmacutical company. Married her...10 years now. Best decision of my life. But I want to say that this video is as close to the truth as you will ever see. It all comes down to common sense and playing your cards correctly. Who on earth goes looking for a wife in a bar and then rents her from the madam (bar fine). Have you lost your friggin mind to think this is anything more than a business?
Good advice here gents. Another option if you are looking for something more long term is to avoid the bar girls entirely and look for someone working in the shops. If you see a beauty you like, chat her up and see if she is available.
If you can find a beautiful Thai girl that shows you a good time the 3 day rule can be waived....If they are a starfish...it's 1 and done...if you dated Asian women you know when she really likes you...but remember you're only her "boyfriend" for how ever long your in Thailand...By the 3rd day you're pushing a shopping cart full of food and supplies at the Big C....She'll insist on going to the airport so she can get your last baht 555 There's probably a new guy arriving the same night you leave..That's been my experience for the last 30 years.......But after 2 weeks of girls and drinking....you need a vacation from your vacation...:)
Another good video, with all of the advice spot-on; after twenty years of visits I still generally follow the philosophy that I don't pay the girl to go with me, I pay her to leave once I am finished with her. One observation that I'd like to make is that the first few years I went to Pattaya, any girl I picked up in a beer bar would generally stay long time - overnight - and yes, most would like a good sleep-in in the morning and I'd give them until noon after which I would gently wake them and send them on their way. After smart phones became widespread, it eventually became a lot more common for the encounters to be all short time instead which I came to like better as it made the encounter even more of a business affair and it was never difficult seeing them leave, and I sleep much better myself when I am alone. Although I did have my regulars over the years - and still will if/when I ever get back there again - I never did get hung up on any one girl although I did meet a few who probably would have made good partners but it just wasn't my thing. I've also gotta say that I get a real kick out of all of the armchair travel experts who comment on videos like this - "creepy old men", "human trafficking", "they all have STD's", "pedophiles", etc...all people who have obviously never been to Pattaya, or probably even Thailand - and unless you have been there you just don't have a clue how it all works. My first visit to Thailand was an epiphany and I am very much looking forward to returning.
Excellent advice, especially in your comments about the fact that we are all human. Guys, go slowly, be respectful and treat your partners with fairness and generosity! In exchange, you will spend time with really beautiful women.
Remember guys there are plenty of Thai ladies who has a normal 8-5 jobs, better looking, awesome personality and don’t expect anything from you. Only things you need to do is just ask her out and pay for a meal.
Is this common with ladyboys you meet on Thai dating websites too? Are can I possibly find a real, honest and eventually monogamous relationship if I feel she is the right one. None of my girls won't be bar girls unless they lie to me when I ask, Im sure I will scoop up some bar girls while I am there but never ever expect them to have a end up in a typical husband and wife relationship known through out the world
Very sound advice mate I would recommend this channel to anyone contemplating visiting Thailand. Your message is very informative and useful. When I retire I will visit and enjoy the attractions equipped with sound advice.thanks.
I had one where I paid her bar fine on the first day, she decided to stay with me the week I was there without paying her. I left my money on the counter while I was asleep. She grab some went out to get breakfast and gave me the change back. Too bad I couldn’t stay longer. Had a great time with her.
Once in Nana plaza i saw a guy with his suitcase try to sneak away from his hotel and Thai bargirl without her knowledge. The screaming match and her subsequent crying ,yelling and pleading was the funniest floor show I'd seen. It wasn't much fun for him!
555 excellent and all true . I would add that if you decide to be her man, you are not just choosing her, you are choosing her family. And because you are taking her away from her work, the money she sends home to her family must be replaced by you. This may take time for her to reveal but eventually you will know.
Another thing is never go back to the village with her and meet the Mom,you are then royally screwed,she then expects you to build a new house for her and a new bike and a new car an a monthly allowance of what she made in the bar.
Danger: you will catch feelings and she will detect this. You will then be milked for money. Not once in the history of Thailand has any bar girl ever left the bar because some guy from abroad was sending her money every month. What she's doing while you are away is lining up other guys to also send her money every month because she knows that you could drop her at any time.
My wife is Khmer, and my only advice to anyone starting a relationship in SE Asia is to put the time in. Get to know each other and iron out the cultural differences. It takes years, but it's worth it.
The more time you spend with a woman, the more it costs. The cheapest is short time. The most expensive is a long term marriage. Don't believe me? Either you stay married and if you're like most people spend 110% of what you make or you split up and it costs you a house, half your retirement and alimony. Divide that by the number of times you got laid and youll see short time is an extreme bargain. You can get lucky for the price of dinner for two at fucking Applebee's and then have the other 22 to 23 hours of your day to do what you like.
@@dmitriikurilov3662 I agree with you in theory. In reality it's more difficult than it sounds. Marriages have their ups and downs. It's cliche but the downs can be pretty miserable. If it ends, your life can be very adversely impacted, both financially and emotionally (your kids). I'm still married for 20 years. If this doesn't work out, I won't do it again. My advice to my daughter would be get married early and often. My advice to my son I don't have would be choose very carefully because it's the most important decision you'll ever make. May the odds be ever in your favor.
@@stevend8785 I have been married for 20 years myself and I see all the challenges I had as necessary sacrifices. If I want my bloodline to continue on Earth I have to make sacrifices, it has always been so and will always be. But it does not mean that I cannot get loose and go to Pattaya or any other destination like that for having some fun. I am a husband, not a slave after all 😉
Going to Thailand can be like going to Disneyland. By all means enjoy the rides, just don’t try taking home your favorite one, unless you have the cash and space to maintain it.
Married 13 years. All is true. Sleep, Eat 5x day, Shop, Shower 2-3x day, Thai Time and Jealousy. 20 sauces in the fridge the entire ocean in the freezer and nothing to eat at home. Clogged drains. But like any other girl remember once you put a ring on it sex is over. I don't care if you think your relationship will be different, it wont. Good luck.
As an ex-grunt, I saw you for the same a minute in. Thanks for confirming that. UK, US military have been around the world for centuries :). A lot of us have been there, done that. I still fondly remember the time I spent hours, ok maybe two, convincing an absolutely gorgeous Colombian girl, beautiful girl, blonde hair to her butt :), in Colon Panama to go sightseeing with me the next day to Toboga island. She went back to Colombia the next week, after making beaucoup bucks in the canal zone. No regrets. Thanks for the vid. Subbed.
I'm ex navy we went to Pattaya Beach in 93 met a girl there and we had the understanding that we would not fall in love with each other we spent the whole week together and it was great so I suggest make you expectations known upfront before you haggle the bar fine
Great video mate. Nailed it. Should be required viewing for any new guys heading over to Pats. It sounds simple until your drunk and having the time of your life.😄
As they say, you can take the girl out of the bar, but not the bar out of the girl. Personally, i have a 2 day limit on barfine girls. Also, if you like the bar because you consistently see a lot of stunners in there, have a talk with the mama-san. First, buy her a drink and politely ask if u can speak with her for a few minutes. Compliment her on her looks. I usually say something like, "look at all the beautiful well mannered girls in this place, that must because of you. You are beautiful, so the beautiful girls like to work here." Any charming BS is fine. Tell you like her bar and you are a social butterfly. You are always good to the girls, but you only take each one out for 1 or 2 days max, then you want a different girl. Its not because the girls before are not good, you just like variety. Each time you come, you are going to select a new girl." Some of these mama-sans are surprisingly good conversationalists, even with limited English. If she is fun to talk to and she seems to have the time, then roll with it. Maybe buy her a 2nd drink if it seems appropriate. When done with "the talk" giver her a generous tip. If you think this is wasted time and money, to each his own. But i would rather invest this money and see what fruits develop from it, because usually it saves me a lot of hassle. It's nice to walk into a place and have the mama-san genuinely be happy to see you. Also, if all the girls see that you and Msan are friendly, they are not going to cause you problems, one way or another. The girls are lions, and the Msan is the Lion Tamer. You just rent one of the lions occasionally, so leverage the L Tamers control. I have been coming to Asia extensively for 20 years and never married one of them. I love them to death, but i love my variety and i don't want too many complications. For a select few i do have "sponsor" or "sugar daddy" relationships, but those are NEVER bar girls. The bar scene is not really my thing, and i come and go from it. Whenever i do come back to the bars, i always aim to befriend the Msan. If the Msan never has time for me, or spurns my generosity to her, that is NOT a bar i will come back to. Her girls will very much adopt her attitude. When you have found a place you like and are taking their girls, the next time you come and have selected your new girl for the night, if the last one is in the bar and everything seems cool, maybe buy her a drink before you leave with that nights barfine. To make sure the new one doesn't get miff'd maybe say "Honey, Tiffany over there was so nice to me last week, i'm gonna buy her a drink before we go, ok?" Again, maybe this is wasted money to you, but it works for me. I only do the bar thing maybe 1 or 2 nights a week, so i don't mind spending the money on the nights i barfine. The rest of the time i'm working on my laptop online and/or having my Sugar Babies visit my condo at my convenience. I also enjoy hanging out in malls in Asia. In the West, malls bore me to death. But in Asia for some reason, i'm always entertained. They are so much busier and there is always a ton of eye candy walking around. Also, its fun brining an 18 year old hottie from the province to the big city and treating her to all the restaurants that her family was too poor to go to often. Often, they are in heaven just going to a McDonalds, then a local chain thats popular in the country, then Starbucks, maybe a movie, etc. I enjoy it and its cheap fun. Then they boink like a pornstar and after a day or two i send them back to their province with some of their badly needed college tuition money. Anyway gents, there is a multitude of ways to skin the cat, just don't fall into the traps as Mr Buzzin does a good job of pointing out.
@@gregnz1 Yes, and a badly needed source of income for many families there. The girls really are fantastic there, but i realize that when there is a choice between honoring their family, and honoring me, their family will win every time. Thus, my selectivity and care, and my obsessive avoidance of marriage, though for a completely different reason than with Western women.
@@darnation8650 I have avoided marriage here, I have had my moments, women pick me up in sports bars, its extremely hypergamy. Prostitution is legal in New Zealand, prices vary from 200NZD a hour, the minimum wage here is 20NZD, I might have a look if i won any party money in the Casino, Its all just a numbers game in South East Asia, gotta put 60k+ in a Thai Bank to live there. I get a pension at age 65 in 6 years, its paid every two weeks. I don't smoke, still have most of my teeth, sigh, they cost a fortune here.
@@gregnz1 I here you mate. I arranged my life so i make my income online. Covid messed things up for a bit, but i'm getting back in to my regular thing now. Three months in the States, followed by Three months in SE Asia. I ignore all women when i'm in the States. In the US, your gonna pay at least $300 for an "hour" that really is 25 minutes at most. She's gonna lay there like a dead fish silent as the deeps. But if you don't nut in 10 minutes she's gonna say "you almost done yet?" I'm still decent looking enuf to get "free" pussy if i wanted to put for the effort, which i certainly do not. American women are bottom of the barrel in the whole world. A lot of them beautiful on the outside, most rotten to the core on the inside. Anyway Mate, for the best and cheapest pussy, you really can't beat the Philippines, IMHO. Though i also enjoy Thailand and Cambodia. The great thing about the PH is English is very common there. Not so much at all in Thai and Camb. Take some regular trips to PH, from NZ you are rather close. You can do the bar girl thing in Angles City or Manila, or for regular girls i love Cebu. The girls in Cebu (Visayan speaking southern region) are much sweeter and more laid back that the Manila (tagalog speaking norther region) girls.
I've been here 14 years. I have 1 ex-thai-wife and 1 current thai-wife. The 1st was 7 years of extremely loyal marriage. The 2nd has been 6 years of extrememly loyal marriage producing 2 children. My advice is if you're looking for a long term relationship stay out of the bars and far away from bar girls. Stay away from tourist trap cities and areas as much as possible and meet Thai people who will treat you better that the ATM in the local gogo bar. Be smart. Stay safe, stay healthy, and stay wealthy. #tacticaladventurerthailand
People who were never in the military or served time overseas don’t no what the Hell you are talking about, believe me. I was in the Marines, stationed at Camp Schwab in Okinawa twice. They were bringing girls over from the Philippines to work in those bars, and those rules were strict as Hell and the bar fines were huge. That mentality follows them after they marry a soldier and move back to the States with him. All divorces I’ve seen. It’s a whole different set of rules they never learn to abandon. Stay away! For your own good.
Having lived and worked in Bangkok since early 1990's I really enjoyed your advice it resonated so much but was somewhat on the conservative side. Pattaya is a holiday resort with high and low seasons meaning a business has a limited time to make money It is also unique in that most bar girls have at least 6 birthday's, 4 or more grandmothers who have risen from the dead several times. Mothers that have emergency operations twice a week. Sick buffalo, sour mango's and motor bike's that keep needing repairs that somehow cost more than new bike. Don't leave your brain on the plane and follow the golden rule of two strikes and out. Every day is Christmas day so why only have one present.
In the service in the 1970's friends of mine went to Vietnam. What I learned was "I love you GI, buy me Honda" Thinking with your little head and not your big head.
Like your video, good free advise from someone who’s been around Pattaya for ten years . Take your time and make your own decisions based on business spot on
Remember the rule in Thailand, 'no money, no honey'... Have a budget, don't exceed it. Follow the rules in the video.... But unlike in the Western world, you do get something for your money/effort/contract.. Far better than the western marriage contract....
Why not chat up/court a normal hard working Thai lady (sales girl,maid,nurse,etc ) and exponentially increase your chances of enjoying your Thai experience?
I know many who have done this but when your retired wanting to travel and your Thai partner is working you spend 6 days a week alone. I was with a Language teacher it was great at 1st but only one full day together in the week is not enough. Girls with good jobs will not leave their jobs they worked hard to get. You could go anytime and leave them. Getting their job back is not simple here. I know one multi millionaire here who dates bar girls as they will be available 7 days a week. He has dated many hi so girls who will never give up their job to be with him full time.
Agree with much of this. The sleeping 14 hours a day, the jealousy of other women. As for the heartache from separation, I prefer it to the boredom of seeing too much of someone. The cost, less than most of my Australian girlfriends.
Girlfriend, wife or Thai bar girl, everyone costs money. Some you pay upfront, the other you pay in a nasty divorce settlement, alimony. I would prefer bar girl anyday, atleast they are honest, no money no honey. Never break one day rule.
Exactly, I say that all the time. You are always going to pay. Traditional way, you meet a girl. Take her to dinner, shopping etc…it cost money. Escort, Thai bar girl, massage spa girl it costs money. There’s no way around it. So, pick which gives you the most pleasure and least headache XD
So difficult reading some of these comments. I have fallen genuinely and deeply in love 3 times over 3 decades. Every time I did everything I could to make him happy; worked hard to pay the mortgage, looked after the kids, supported him in every way. However I was abused and discarded each time. One would use Thailand as a threat... saying he would go to Bangkok and get a nice bar girl instead of me. I was never valued or loved, never. Breaks my heart to realise that men seem to think women are all manipulative gold diggers. It's absolutely not true 😭
Am I so lucky? I met a girl on a chatroom. After almost 2 years of (everyday) chatting, I'm moving in Thailand. I have graduated High School; she is educated. I am unemployed for the last 13 years - she has a very good position in a company. My income (from some rents) reaches the amount of $750 per month... she earns double money. I just thank God and Buddha!
I'm not rich. I don't have any wealthy income. So, I have nothing to lose! I'm just moving there, because the cost of life, there, is more affordable for me and I can live more comfortable. In addition: She is very close to my age - I'm 50, she's 45 - and of chinese origin...
bro absolutely nailed the whole journey in this video 😂. this is great. in my experience maybe because my age (25-34) the girls tend to fall in love with me and ask for very little by the end if i have been seeing them often. but as i'm getting older now (35+) i am seeing the money part becoming a more important factor than being a cool young guy 😂
“You can take the girl out of the bar, but not the bar out of the girl”……Old Nana saying…Those chicks are (amongst)my favourite party people, but getting serious is just trouble…😮
A bit long comment so please forgive me for that. I have had 4 girls that I took 3-5 days and had completely different experiences: Girl no. 1 was 11 years ago. Never seen her again. She tracked me down on FB and still to this day write to me from time to time. She is married and live in Europe now. Have never asked for anything form me. She just somehow put me on some kind of piedestal and believe that I am the one. Girl no. 2 is a super proff. Bar Girl - she knows what her job is. She never asked for anything from me. Just want to make sure that I won't forget her, so I come by her bar and see her at least once on a holiday. Girl no. 3 confuses me. Very beautiful Agogo girl that has completely left the business all together. Again - never ask me for anything. She is not even up for meeting since she quit farang. She just like to have - loooong - chats every once in a while. Girl no. 4 is what everyone is talking about. Calling me teerak all the time. Asking for money all the time. Asking for me to come there all the time. Got rid of her when she found out that I am not sending any money so she ghosted me. All in all I will do as I always do - whatever I want - longtime shorttime or many days. So far I have survived it fairly easy.
Ive never had a bar girl, my wife is an accountant from bangchat petroleum met her while teaching in thailand and been married 19 years ,but you are spot on about the bar girls with all the stories ive been told do relate to what your saying
Every word spot on. You stayed over there but for those 'old' duffers who are fool enough to fall in love with a bar girl, marry her and bring her back here, within a very short time especially getting clue up on our divorce laws, realizing how far more attractive they are to most British women, due to the great amount of interest she gets from younger men, will very quickly dump the old guy and find a younger one or take up her profession again and make a lot of money.
Okay the first part you were talking about the Sleeping all day issue, that is caused by Metabolism, not Thai Culture. If the Girl was working at Night every night, she develops a certain sleep pattern around her Work schedule, then you come along and what to flip her whole world upside down over night. 😁 It is NEVER going to work like that, because of SCIENCE not Thai Culture. The Body cannot flip your Metabolism around like flicking a light Switch. So if you want her to be up and ready to go in the Morning you have to get her to bed Early in the Evening. Do this for a couple of days and the problem is Solved. But of course you have to be Smart enough to understand the problem in the first place. 😁
Next the Jealousy factor; I don't usually have that problem because I do a lot of "Shopping" before I PICK which girl I want, then I screen her for Mental Issues and Trust, and if she passes those Tests, then I steady Bar Fine her right away, and then, we are Off on Vacation. We are not going back to the Bars AT ALL, Why Would I? I already made my choice. If you are screwing around like you are just messing with the Girl's head, of course she is going to get upset, because you are acting like you are not sure what you are doing, so SHE is going to feel emotionally all fked up too. You SHOULD be acting like you know what you are doing, and IF you KNOW what you are doing, then you have no reason to be hanging out in the Bars. There was one exception I told the Girls I wanted to have big Party with all Girls, and I got a Place and about 10 girls and had a private party. But if I am Steady Bar fining a Girl, there is no reason to be hanging out in the Bars. We are GOING places, Going to Bangkok, or going to other Islands, or Movies or Shows or Discos, we have enjoying each other's company like we are Serious about it. If you are not doing that, then you are screwing with the girl's head, and you should be careful if you screw with a Thai girl's head cause she might Rob you and you would never know it.
Next the buying stuff situation; Like I said, when I first meet the Girl I screen em, test them for Trust, if they pass the Trust Test, I will give them $1000 worth of Bhat and say "You pay for everything" Why? Because she is going to get a cheaper Price for EVERYTHING. That is going to save me Money, AND she is going to want to go Shopping, that is a natural fact of Life, what Girl DOESN'T want to go Shopping? If you can't afford to buy her something, DON'T TAKE HER! You're just causing yourself problems if you do. If you give her some Money, let her be in Charge of paying for everything, she is going to feel like you Trust her, and she will ask "can I buy this" and I always say "Sure Tii Rak go ahead" If you aren't saying that, then that's YOU and YOU are the problem not Her. My Thai Girls Love me, My Thai Girls would die for me, I had them save me from Bad guys several times, but I never had to worry about any of my Girls. I always take care of them, and they always take care of me.
Lastly the Long Term Decision, that's the thing that broke me most times, it's not sending her Money, I can DO that, it's the Dowry! Usually it's an insane amount of money and I just say no.
But I think the next time (if i don't get a Russian Girl) I'm just gonna get her Pregnant then she can't refuse. Then I'm sure the price of the Dowry is going to drop drastically. 😁
Yeah I DO think your advice about taking it slow is probably a good idea. But I think it is also a good idea to plan everything backwards first. Imagine the Dowry, (and you didn't talk about that)
Imagine the Wedding (Which is also outrageous) and if you CAN'T imagine the Dowry and the Wedding, then you already know you are not doing the long term. But if you CAN imagine the Dowry and the Wedding, then plan and discuss how much you can send her. Know how much that is going to be, before you even pay the Steady Bar Fine. Then you will know what to expect.
wow mate what a reply!!! I reckon by the time you sussed all that out it will be time to go home hahaha. great comment mate, enjoyed reading that thank you!
This guy Pattayas!
Good all round assessment. Screening them for mental instability is the initial step (very important) unless your intentions are, just to have a fleeting encounter. Merry Christmas and HNY.
That must have been a school paper for you …. In any case I would keep her on the same schedule cause I don’t want her falling asleep at 3 am when I roll her and have at it. If you what I mean. I don’t want to break any of those good habits. 😂
bro what? are we talking about trying to find a wife now or something?
Instead of the risk of being hooked in Thailand, you could fall for a girl at home, marry her, invest years in the relationship, then be taken for the house, half your income and pension.
Absolutely spot on
Romance is an illusion real life ain't like that in fact its all bullshit the illusion and the reality which ever way to see it
And they deserve every penny - you bought a woman you troll!
@@DrFingers bullshit
That sounds more expensive tbh
I see guys making comments about paying for sex in a way that is a put down to those paying bar girls. Truth be told, every man pays for sex, be it his bar girl, hooker, girlfriend, wife, side chick, whatever, any woman you have a sexual relationship with, you pay one way or another. That is an indisputable fact. Who you pay or how you pay, is your decision, but you all pay!
Well said mate absolutely spot on
In our western homes you often pay with freedom and time, something far more valuable than money in my opinion.
100% truth. Tell every western woman you go on a date with that everything will be split 50/50 for the rest of your life and see if you get a second date.
The #1 rule is Never Never get lust n love confused. Always remember think with the big head not your little head. Enjoy your time in Thailand but be smart n use Common Sense.
well said
What if your Big head is in your shorts🤘
@@chadpendergast6025 well i guess you will be screwed in more ways than 1
I did that with my last relationship here in blighty, luckily enough I worked it out in time.
@@chadpendergast6025 lol. I was thinking something simular. Little head how dare you (jokes)
Gotta buy you a drink for the honesty!
Thanks mate much appreciated thank you
Met a girl in thailand in a bar, payed her money. She had a car, which was awesome, as she drove me all over the place, we went to so many cool places and safe rather than a nasty scooter. We stayed together some nights, others i said i wanted some alone time (recent break up etc), it worked out beautiful, she accepted that. When i left, she drove me to the airport and she thanked me for how i had been; honest and also fun to be with. We left with no strings attached and still texting about our life. She is married with a French guy, ive been through one and she still supported and helped me through that time and still we talk. I guess I was lucky. Payed for 2 weeks and no hard feelings since i was honest.
Always handy to have a tour guide
American here full-time since 2009. Your post is the first one I have ever seen which actually tells the truth. Fantastic. Newbies will all say "...But, my Thai girlfriend is different..." Never commit to a second night until the day after. And, never for more that one night at a time
Thank you
Ten years ago, I find the love of my life in a bar in Pattaya. We got married in my country and for 6 years she has her own business here. We have a wonderful life together. She loves my country. We visit Thailand every other year to see her family and our friends in Pattaya. So happy relationships occur sometimes.
Fantastic mate thank you for sharing your experience and all the best
Yep married 17 years happy as a pig in s..t...there are no stereotypes
If you choose to be involved with a Thai girl while on holiday be prepared to spend lots of cash,but look on it as the best bits of marriage with out the long term agro.
Fair one
Good one. I like that
You don't need to spend lots of money.
@@Josh-rn1em I do.
Your spot on mate. You laid it out truthfully. I'm an expat here for 20 years. I just want to ask the guys coming here to treat these girls with respect and curtisy. They do this to feed their families. And they are human being, not rental cars. Take the girl out for coffee and get to know them. Then make a decision. Please be a gentleman with these girls.
Thanks mate much appreciated
lol they are escorts, feeding families doesnt change that.
@@raptorhacker599 Doesn't fucking matter dude. These are people with feelings. These aren't fucking sex robots. What a disgusting way to view someone who's services you patronage.
Always respect the ladies!
As a 72 year old white male I'm starting to wonder if my 19 year old Thai girl is only with me for my money, I've discussed it with her other 10 british boyfreinds and we are all starting to worry
lol
Love that mate....
Hilarious 😂
This is the absolute BEST documentary I have ever seen in one of these forums. This gentleman does an EXCELLENT job of presenting the information. The inclusion of extensive street scene video is brilliant.
Thank you very much for such kind words
Married a church girl from Hong Kong. Best move I ever made! Prayed for her before I met her, awesome wife, awesome life!
Fantastic mate
better to pray for her then pay for her 😜
But I think some of the most deceptive evil chicks are the ones who play the long game playin the wife routine !!The whole routine as goody chick knowing their going to blowing the neighbor twenty years down the the line to devastate you the most!! They know the goody play image to put up a front to present a marriage facade but that's all part of the pre planned trap which if it doesn't devatate a guy at very least soaks his assets
Words to live by for sure.
I met a girl in Hua Hin.
6 years ago.
Took her for a night,9 days later.
She was still there.
Not the best looking.
Sex was not that great.
I just had this connection with her.
Now we have a home in Surin that I had built.
I’m in the process of finally moving to Surin.
It was a ruff few years early on.
She even punched me once for putting my hand on the shoulder and saying good night to one of the girls.
I had to learn how to adjust to a Issan girl.
She is a wonderful girl and takes really good care of me.
She keeps a good home.
She is up early every morning getting her Daughter ready for school. She is 7.
She has completely changed my life.
I enjoy her so much.
She has never asked me for a penny.
She is very frugal.
She actually teaches me how to spend less in Thailand.
She is still jealous but it’s me who of course loves to see all those beautiful girls running around Thailand.
Now to see how I do living full time in Surin. This May I’ll make the move.
We have a beautiful home.
Surin is not the hippest place in Thailand but it’s getting better. More food choices. I see more coming.
One day at a time.
Your comments are so true.
Caution is needed.
Good story.
Wow !
Thank you for sharing
Having a "connection" is not the basis for long term happiness.. although it seems like it at the time.
Absolutely agree with you ! It happen to me in 2011 in Bangkok and I promise myself before making any more decision on long term relationship while in Asia I'm take a long cold shower by myself and if you still feel the same warm and fuzzy feelings get back the shower ! And call a cab or bolt .
Been there lately. I saw a freelancer 3 days in a row and truth to be said I got emotionally attached to her but did not tell her. On the other side she said she is having feelings and she hated that she is getting attached to me. She cried the day we said goodbye. It was going to end a day or another. We are all humans.
Yeah it can be very tough at times when emotions get involved
Pool on the roof, eating out, going to the mall, shopping for ear rings, going to the Temple, incense, drinking beers while listening to live music; hitting the bars. Had a great time with my beerbar girl, paid bar fine 4 nights, got together with one of her friends, double dating. She spent 4 nights with me, amazing time. Found her at an inexpensive beer bar, NOT Walking St., much better prices. She fell in love with me; I had a planned time to leave, she helped me pack to go back to the airport. I needed a quick intro, the mama-san came thru; my new friend showed me around the city, we heard all the live music, she knew where to go, what time, what nights. Amazing people that will open their hearts to you; don't abuse it.
wow what a story mate thank you so much for sharing
YES SOME OF THESE GIRLS ARE LOOKING TO FIND A GOOD MAN TO TREAT HER NICE, SOME ARE EVEN LOOKING FOR A GOOD HUSBANDS.....
NEVER LET WHAT SHES DONE IN HER LIFE SCARE U AWAY, SOME GIRLS LIKE THAT MAKE THE BEST WIVES, IVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND.....
Yeah I don’t know why you can’t scope out that exact experience you had congrats
A problem I do not have. At 71, more than 2 hours is too much . I need a few days off between sessions.
Fair one mate
At 71 you're still going strong good to hear. I'm 55 and still love a good shag
3 simple rules, #1: never have a relationship with a bargirl, and #2: never send money from overseas. Rule #3...never break rules 1&2!
Great shout
Also, never talk about Fight Club 😉
Every guy that told me he was coming to Thailand (including myself) made rules 1 and 2. Every guy I met that came to Thailand (including myself) broke both rules and were very happy with the results.
Too late broke all them rules 🤣🤣🤣 but had the best time of my life saving up to do it all again next year
@@bobtunbridge7996 Me TOO lol.
After 16 years of traveling to Pattaya myself on and off ...Trevor really says it at it is.
Listen to his advise and so honestly accurate...
Listen to his wise words of experience and hopefully it will save your ass & assets.
Thanks Trevor that you do these blogs for Newbies 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much
ive yet to see someone born 1985-1990 to relate to this channel
A long time ago I made the mistake of knowing a bar girl for around 2 weeks. She convinced me to visit her family in Issan. I was dumb and didnt know any better so I said yes. We took an 8 hour taxi ride and the first place we arrived at was a restaurant. I had no idea what was going on.
I sat down at a table with around 40 Thai people sitting and eating. It turned out that her dads niece was getting married and the entire extended family was there. I did not order anything and was only there a few minutes when they handed me the bill to pay for everything.
I looked at her like WTF is this? She gave me this look like, please don't embarrass me. So I went ahead and paid for it. It was only like 1,600 baht or something anyway.
Later we leave and we go to the hotel where her family was staying.
I was standing next to the truck and further away near the entrance of the hotel the girl and her parents were talking.
Several minutes later the girl, her brother and sister and myself were sitting in the back of the truck. I looked over and the girl was crying her eyes out and sobbing uncontrollably. I asked her what was wrong and eventually she told me that her parents were yelling at her because I had not bought them a house yet. (After only knowing her for 2 weeks)
I told her I was never coming there again.
We then arrived back in Pattaya and I left her in the hotel room while I went out to use the ATM and then go buy some T-shirts. I was gone for around an hour and when I came back to the room she had cut both of her wrists open and said that she thought I was with a girl and then went on to tell me that If I ever had a baby with her and she caught me with another woman that she would kill the baby.
I told her to get all of her belongings and get out of my hotel room.
I blocked her and never talked to her again.
There are levels of crazy.
It happens mate don't beat yourself up about it many many people have fell in the same trap as you did
It's a fools game they break your bank account
You missed a bullet sir. Be thankful. Sad part is the family condoning their daughters to be prostitutes.
@@deannicholas Yeah thats the best book I have ever read about Thailand
Women! They are crazy in general but some more than others. It is ALL about the $$$$$$! It is. They look at us as walking ATM’s! Why I am still free and single and loving it! Don’t get married! 😎
The first girl I spoke to on my first trip to Thailand we spent a week together (my entire vacation). We’ve now been married for 20 years
Fantastic mate
@@VarietyGamerChannel yes for the asian culture they want to be married. But it’s still not easy to find a husband.
Did you marry a customs officer?
I took a 21yr old - a true 10 out of 10 in Bangkok. We checked into the state tower and got a beautiful suite. We had drinks food and some fun. When I didn't tip her her normal 1500 Bot for the fun we had she claimed to have to go help her brother who had an accident on his motorcycle. I thought the 30,000 bot I paid was a lot and should have been good for all night. Don't under estimate how much these woman make. Over the next 2 days she came up with every excuse to not come back. I felt she was seeing every guy she could to put in her bank account without paying the normal bar fees- that I took carebof for the entire noght. When I told her I would pay the 1500 each time she miraculously showed up again. Bottom line. These girls are paid for their fun and don't think they will fall in love with you. They will do whatever they can to get the most money out of you then move on. Always remember these woman are prodessional call girls. You are one in 15 D"s they satisfy daily if they are young and hot. Do you really think they want an older balding possibly overweight American for anything more than his money and possible escape of their hard life? Hope this helps. Great channel!
Thank you for sharing what was an interesting experience you had
The jealousy your date gets when another girl is looking at you is not because she loves you, but because she stands to lose money (from you) to someone else.
Indeedy
Yeah take your time is good advice. A wise man once said, you never lose your girl in Thailand, you only lose your turn. Sad but true :)
True
Sir, this is some great advice. I learned a few things I had no idea about. Nice work!
Thank you very much
“The only way to buy love for money is to buy a dog.” - Albert Camus (French philosopher, author, and journalist. Awarded the 1957 Nobel Prize in Literature, 1913-1960)
true
If you get a cat, it'll be more like a wife. Cause they hate you disdain and demand.
And the whole time you're paying for it
I have been married for 26 years. In the early 90's i spent almost 2 years in the Philippines in an area that provided similar entertainment to what I understand can be found in Thailand. I agree that mixing emotions with the business transaction is a mistake. There was a saying back then, "You can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl.". This was true the vast majority of the time (maybe 99%). The chances that you have found the "One" are very small. I ended up marrying a Filipina, but she was not a bar worker and I met her after I moved back to the USA. By all means, have a great time but do not expect to find the love of your life in a bar.
Fantastic mate and fair place you for making 26 years that is fantastic
In general, in all geographical locations, if you are looking for marriage, it pays to not fish in polluted waters. A church, where you can meet an eligible girl with her family present, ups the odds considerably. I can't speak for Thailand, but in the Philippines, they are mostly Catholic, but there are Protestant churches in the larger cities, and a few in some of the smaller ones.
Their are exceptions. I been married 33 year's to a woman I met in a night club.
@@BUTGOD-j1x I agree, I was just pointing out that it very rarely works out as well as it did for you and your wife.
@@TheWraithkrown you right. I went through a lot of "applications" before finding the one.
I've been going thailand almost 25 yrs, u must be very careful, if your the type that also gets attached fast, stick with only short times, much safer, many bar girls I know all have many sponsors sending them monthly allowances, they all think girl is in village, but truth is when u get on the plane, she's back in the bar. And reason she don't answer the phone is its too noisy.
Spot on
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. It was very helpful
welcome mate
Hi Trevor. Another good vlog. I’ve been going to Thailand since 2003. Every year bar Covid. The secret is simple for tourists.
Never take a girl out of a bar that you frequent and like to chill and have a drink in.
Never take the same girl or any girl for long time. Do the business and say bye bye.
Don’t spend all your holiday in the same place. I arrive Bangkok for first three nights, head off to Patong for a week, then another week in Pattaya and final three nights in Bangkok. Ok it’s a little more expensive but that is why we are called the 2-3 week millionaires. The girls remember you even next year. No hassles, or expectations when you explain you’re a butterfly. Don’t haggle about price just finish beer and walk onto next bar. You will enjoy your HOLIDAY a lot more and every time if you stick to the simple rules. Cheers🍺🇹🇭😂.
Well said my friend
So I want to understand you,ve been going to Thailand for more then 19 years. And you never ever stayed with a lady long time, as in more then 12 hours or 1 day. I ,ve been going and lived on different occasions for more then 28 years. What your saying is a little hard to believe. But if it,s true then I suggest trying some for more then 3 or 4 days. Because some ladies don't really relax for at least 2 days around you, then it gets really interesting. Seeya mate cheers.
Hi Pietro. Seriously the most time I’ve spent with a girl is an overnight once or twice when I first started going. Trying to get rid the next day was more hassle than it’s worth. Remember I’m there on holiday. Really not interested in long term or long distance relationships. I’ve seen a few of my mates fall foul and they are pretty much now the same opinion. Each to their own and if it’s good for you then more power to you. I’ll be downing a beer or three at the Lovely Corner watching the sun go down over the bay in January, fingers crossed. Good luck next time you’re there. 🍺🇹🇭
Yeah sure mate it ain't all great, all the time, but like I said it depends on the lady. Sure they all want something it's how you dodge the pitfalls that count. Like I said a little respect and a bit of fun with them goes a long way. Oh yeah and of course a little lingo in Thai, Lao, or Khmer. Helps cheers to you mate 👍
@@gregormitchell1378 OH yeah mate as you said each to there own, if you enjoy going around seeing different places that's great. But that's alright if you're there for 6 weeks maybe 2 or 3 months. Otherwise you sit around in Airports to much. My holidays are meant for relaxing and taking it easy. I don't want to land somewhere and know that I got to go again in 3 or 4 days 1 week later. I want to have time to party a little enjoy the place. That's why when I go I rarely stay under 4 weeks. Just more time to relax. Cheers 🍻
I live in Thailand, my wife is Thai, we have been together nearly 19 years and I adore, her she is as perfect as I can imagine. Not soft and submissive, but a real tough and smart person that is industrious and looks after me well, just as I look after her. Imagine old fashion man does his bit girl does her bit; not like the 'uptight' West at all. Family here in Thailand comes first so if you do want the girl you need to respect the mum.
My tip is wait three years before marrying anyone wherever you are. Please also keep in mind when you meet a bar girl, that they are human, they have dreams for a nice future. They are often stuck in their role and a nice farrang is a dream way out. All my pals have successful marriages to Thai girls.
love reading this mate thank you
19 years ? Today we have 2024 - i only see prostitutes in Pattaya.Prices go up, now the indian pay in the disco 5.000 for 2 shot. - Pur prostitution. - And the girls love this easy life: party ! loud music, free drinks, more free drinks, free beer, free vodka and sex sex and sex. - International sex: india !!, german, england, australia and every man wants to pay more than the other one. Plus the man from Dubai who perhaps send 100.000 Baht per month. - That is Thailand. - Beware and never think: my girl is better ... now we have 2024 and everything is very professional.
Don't fall in love with a prostitute! Pretty simple, it's a business transaction, like renting a car or scooter for a week, don't abuse it, return it in the same condition you received it and walk away with good memories.
Gotcha
Outstanding advice Trev! Well done mate. Telling it like it is, is always a winner.
Cheers mate
Met an old geezer in a bar in Spain once and we shared a few beers ,he was waiting to pickup his half Indonesian son from school . When I returned the following year I inquired about him and was told that he had hung himself using a bed sheet tied to a balcony he threw himself off in broad daylight . His wife found a decent job and didn’t need him anymore so she left him and got her son to disown his Dad. Moral of the story …..
Rent don’t Buy.
Yeah sadly this does happen a lot
she got her life together and she no longer needed him. sad he did not realize that.
Let's face it, that can happen anywhere, don't need a foreign wife for that to happen!
Long stays are bad! I came for two weeks and 1 month later I got an overseas job and moved to Pattaya. 16 yrs later we are married, have a house in Pattaya, and a farm in P-lok and 2 kids. She handles everything in the household and I just work (internationally) and play computer games. Soon I will retire and spend the rest of my life on the beach with a responsible woman and no headaches. I can think of worse outcomes, but I think I was just lucky.
Thank you so much for sharing 16 years is fantastic
Idk about others but I went to bkk after a bad breakup found an amazing freelancer, paid her 15k baht for 6 days (24 hours) along with food and drinks ofc. Partied a lot, got full GFE, had some intimate chats. Sure I didn't get over my ex back home but I did enjoy the time I was with my temp Thai friend.
thanks for sharing your experience with us
😂 Totally Entertaining 💞 Jam Packed with information and great story telling 🎶 You're Buzzin' Pattaya 👣🌬️🌎😇🙏🥂🌹✌️
Thanks mate much appreciated
Last time i was in Thailand ended up staying at a bar girls place for the whole 2 months on darkside. She didn't cause one problem. Most days i was up earlier than her and wanted to go out. Id wake her up never a problem. My honest opinion of the 20+ yrs going to Thailand is, its not so much the Thais who are the problem. My personal experience is most of the expats especially on the darkside are racist, alcoholics and extremely jealous with any visitor coming in their bars and taking (in their own mind) their girls and they will have no problem telling you. Believe when i say i know most of the owners of the bars/restaurants around darkside.
My advise with spending any lengthy time with a Thai lady is don't assume you understand them or their culture but always show a willing to learn and respect their way of life. No different than what we would expect from our tourists/immigrants coming/moving to our country. Treat them like a human and not a bit of meat which I'm sad to say is far to common out there.
At the end of the day their only doing that job to support their families at home who can't afford healthcare and education etc. Usually married at a young age and given a child when thai man leaves them and refuses to support them. It leaves the girls two choices work in a factory for about a rough estimate of 6k baht a month, whilst being looked down at their family for not keeping the marriage afloat. Or pass their children onto their parents who then are forced to stop working so the girl can go work in a bar for about 6/8k baht salary that's without drinks/short-long time tips depending which area she works.
Its a ruthless country with no benefit system to help them in anyway if they don't make money they don't eat its that simple.
nice one
@@Buzzinpattaya Thanks for taking time to read my experiences what I've learnt. You have a great youtube channel here bud. Earned a sub from me.
"Remember guys, this is a business.."
It's always a business with EVERY woman. Something of value MUST be exchange or she won't be with you. Love is bullcrap. I've seen in many times in my line of work. A man gets into a serious accident, is handicapped, and no longer provides the goodies the woman / wife liked, and she stays around a while to be polite, but the first man that can give her better value, she's gone. Happens everytime. So this isn't just a Pattaya thing.
I get ya mate totally
Women cost money. Before money was invented you still had to provide something of value for her to be with you. Like food. Protection. Women are human. They have their own agendas.
Before I came on my first trip to Thailand a friend of mine who had been here before told me " why buy a book when you can join the library"
Indeed
This is wonderful advise that you've given. I learned the hard way. 4 trips to Thailand, up to 5 weeks at a time with the same girl. Even met her family in Ubon ...As far as money, stick to a budget w/ cushion room. The more trips, the more that you learn how to get more for your money. As far as your mind, be prepared to lose it. As far as your heart, guard it like it's a gold mine or you could find it shattered. It's been 19 yrs. since I've been back. Last time was in Phuket twice the year of the tsunami. If I'd been there one month later, I wouldn't have been able to write this. I wanted to go back to help out but they wouldn't allow tourists during the clean up. I was devastated thinking about the many people that I'd met that to this day don't know if they survived or not. My advise is to go, have fun, lose your mind. But guard your money and your heart.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
I am an American married to a Thai woman in Bangkok. After 4 years we are getting divorced. I am amazed by how much spot on advice that you give about Thai woman and experiences with them. If I had found your channel earlier it would of saved me from a lot of misunderstandings with Thai woman. I learned the differences of their culture the hard way usually hurting or offending a woman and not even knowing it util it was to late. I'll be returning to Thailand in a few weeks and I feel that I owe you a pint or two. Thanks for the great updates and info!
Sorry things didn't work out mate
First time I went to Thailand I met a stunning girl in dubai airport, mid 20s. She openly told me she had a bf in dubai and wasn't shy about coming sit next to me on the plane and later meeting me in Bangkok. Because I didn't want to ruin her relationship I let her chat on the laptop and I just nipped out for a bit. For me it was just abit of fun. She was pretty boring, crap in bed and then to top it off she got food poisoning so was sick for fair few days. I ended up sending her home. Just shows u how fast they can go with someone else. She hadn't even left dubai airport and already she was onto someone else! Since I've been with same woman for seven yrs my age and all is good.what u have to realise about many of these bar girls, it isn't a moral issue but more a monetary issue. Many are in severe debt hence why they work in the bars to pay it off. If you get involved long term you will inherit those debts.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate
I've been coming to Thailand since 1991 and have had 4 women over all those years that I spent more than a day with. The first lady I was with for 4 days. I wanted to explore more of Thailand and took her with me to Pattaya. She told me she hated it in Pattaya and I sent her on her way. The next lady I met in Pattaya the next day at a beer bar. Seen her sitting at a desk doing paperwork and told one of the ladies there I wanted to talk to her. I spent the next 6 days with her. I ended up going back 3 months later and married her, were together for 15 years. It got really ugly when we divorced. She told everyone lies about me. If I find another love it will have to be someone who does not work in a bar.
Wow thank you very much for your honesty
Having been Divorced 3 times all of the ex wives never had a good word to say about me so a Thai divorce will also be the same. Rejection hurts so they fight back to hurt you. Chin up move on. Married for a 4th time to a wonderful Thai girl.
I enjoy watching your videos you're a big help to Men thank you very much mate keep up the good work!!
Cheers mate
About 7 year ago I long timed a girl in samui for a week. We really got on with each other great and she was such a character as well. One of those girls you can't forget. In any event, holiday finished and went back home.
We semi kept in touch over messenger
The next holiday I decided not to meet her even though I seen her on the beach but she didn't see me.
We still semi kept in touch via messenger
The next holiday I seen her again at a parade in Pattaya. This time I decided to go over to her and we spent 6 weeks traveling Thailand together. We even met her father. We had such a great time together. Holiday finished and went back home. She also went back to her village to keep away from "the scene"
We heavily kept in touch, video calls everyday ect. Making plans for her to come to UK, talking about marriage all the usual loved up stuff. I also helped her financially. Say about £250 a month.
But I never followed up with my plans of getting her over here with me in UK also the helping her financially started to become a burden and was wearing thin.
Then covid hit and everything went to shit. Maybe I was looking for an excuse not to commit. We grew more and more distant and eventually it ended. Now she's married to a Thai man.
Do I feel used? Meh, at one point I did when it was all raw. Now I don't feel bad about it. It's a shame it didn't work out for us. But that's life.
I'm going back over to Thailand for 90 days later on in the year. Now that's she married I 100% won't be getting in touch or meeting her.
I've decided that Thailand is Thailand and I won't become so involved with someone over there again. The odds are just stacked against you too much
Oh, and she has rang me a few times since she got married but I refuse to answer
Thank you so much for sharing your experience
You got it spot on same happened to me l go back soon to be a butterfly
Great story
Love the story. Thanks for sharing 🍻
I live in North America and have gone through 2 long term relationships and each time they wanted more then they were worth or deserve. Short term is the best way the older you become. Who wants to be a pensioner losing half your security? Guys smarten up and don’t cower to the pussy cat. We guys give women to much power and all they have to do is use their body while we lose our mind and house.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate
Playa play on
Bang on. No pun intended. 👍
My first trip I made that decision to take a girl for the week. Well, when I was getting ready to leave I found myself "in love" is the best way to put it. We had a great time, so we made an agreement, when she broke it, I broke it off. If you also look at it as a "business" decision ( Which we all know it is literally that way with them especially bar girls) and they break the terms, you have the same recourse. They might not like it, but that is the way it is. Next trip in May is going to be totally different. My name says it all this trip lol.
Great comment mate thank you very much for sharing your experience
It's only a business decision if you pay for the girl, if she stays of her own accord for nothing that's when you have to worry.
Another great video and amazing advises 👏I have been visiting thailand for years at least 3 times a year and i just came back home last week with a broken heart, this time I made absolutely the same mistake with a gogo bar girl. But I made a plan to expose her on my last night and it saved me from a future headache. Can I share what I did to expose her and could u please mention about it in one of ur future videos? I don’t really wanna hear or see any of the guys here to go through this terrible pain by doing the same mistake for falling for a girl in Pattaya or in general in Thailand. Hopefully be back before the new year and see u there☺️
cheers mate
Went the other route. I spent two years courting a Chinese lady in Beijing. Worked as an export manager for a French pharmacutical company. Married her...10 years now. Best decision of my life. But I want to say that this video is as close to the truth as you will ever see. It all comes down to common sense and playing your cards correctly. Who on earth goes looking for a wife in a bar and then rents her from the madam (bar fine). Have you lost your friggin mind to think this is anything more than a business?
Glad everything worked out for ya mate fantastic
Good advice here gents. Another option if you are looking for something more long term is to avoid the bar girls entirely and look for someone working in the shops. If you see a beauty you like, chat her up and see if she is available.
Well said!
If you can find a beautiful Thai girl that shows you a good time the 3 day rule can be waived....If they are a starfish...it's 1 and done...if you dated Asian women you know when she really likes you...but remember you're only her "boyfriend" for how ever long your in Thailand...By the 3rd day you're pushing a shopping cart full of food and supplies at the Big C....She'll insist on going to the airport so she can get your last baht 555 There's probably a new guy arriving the same night you leave..That's been my experience for the last 30 years.......But after 2 weeks of girls and drinking....you need a vacation from your vacation...:)
🤣🤣 @ pushing cart at big c on day 3
Well said and so TRUE
Lol
Very true, sadly.
This was such great advice. Especially explaining both side of the emotional and financial dynamics and consequences!
cheers mate
Another good video, with all of the advice spot-on; after twenty years of visits I still generally follow the philosophy that I don't pay the girl to go with me, I pay her to leave once I am finished with her. One observation that I'd like to make is that the first few years I went to Pattaya, any girl I picked up in a beer bar would generally stay long time - overnight - and yes, most would like a good sleep-in in the morning and I'd give them until noon after which I would gently wake them and send them on their way. After smart phones became widespread, it eventually became a lot more common for the encounters to be all short time instead which I came to like better as it made the encounter even more of a business affair and it was never difficult seeing them leave, and I sleep much better myself when I am alone. Although I did have my regulars over the years - and still will if/when I ever get back there again - I never did get hung up on any one girl although I did meet a few who probably would have made good partners but it just wasn't my thing. I've also gotta say that I get a real kick out of all of the armchair travel experts who comment on videos like this - "creepy old men", "human trafficking", "they all have STD's", "pedophiles", etc...all people who have obviously never been to Pattaya, or probably even Thailand - and unless you have been there you just don't have a clue how it all works. My first visit to Thailand was an epiphany and I am very much looking forward to returning.
Gotcha mate and often the best way
Excellent advice, especially in your comments about the fact that we are all human. Guys, go slowly, be respectful and treat your partners with fairness and generosity! In exchange, you will spend time with really beautiful women.
Absolutely!
Remember guys there are plenty of Thai ladies who has a normal 8-5 jobs, better looking, awesome personality and don’t expect anything from you. Only things you need to do is just ask her out and pay for a meal.
Absolutely well said mate
Is this common with ladyboys you meet on Thai dating websites too? Are can I possibly find a real, honest and eventually monogamous relationship if I feel she is the right one. None of my girls won't be bar girls unless they lie to me when I ask, Im sure I will scoop up some bar girls while I am there but never ever expect them to have a end up in a typical husband and wife relationship known through out the world
And some I hear, are prepared to half costs on things or occasionally pay so you are not taken for granted ..
Very sound advice mate I would recommend this channel to anyone contemplating visiting Thailand. Your message is very informative and useful. When I retire I will visit and enjoy the attractions equipped with sound advice.thanks.
thanks mate much appreciated
I had one where I paid her bar fine on the first day, she decided to stay with me the week I was there without paying her. I left my money on the counter while I was asleep. She grab some went out to get breakfast and gave me the change back. Too bad I couldn’t stay longer. Had a great time with her.
Nice one mate
Funny as fuck😂
A man isn't complete until he's married than he's....FINISHED
Lol
My friend the worst thing is I wish I was finished knowing very well that will be the end of me
Word.
Once in Nana plaza i saw a guy with his suitcase try to sneak away from his hotel and Thai bargirl without her knowledge.
The screaming match and her subsequent crying ,yelling and pleading was the funniest floor show I'd seen.
It wasn't much fun for him!
lol, I can picture the scene now hahahaha
Lol so she didn’t want him to leave ?
I watched the piece from end 2 end. Extremely good advice ...now, when I do decide 2 visit, I can make an informed decision...thanks
Cheers mate
555 excellent and all true . I would add that if you decide to be her man, you are not just choosing her, you are choosing her family. And because you are taking her away from her work, the money she sends home to her family must be replaced by you. This may take time for her to reveal but eventually you will know.
She does not want to scare you away 555
Thanks mate
Going to Pattaya and staying with one girl is like going to an all you can eat buffet and only eating one thing.
Lol
Remember guys If you do a 3 day rule u could of had 3 girls in that time if you had a 1 day rule.
Indeed you are correct
My brother, who was a Marine in Vietnam, said that those girls would kill you if you were cheating in a long term relationship.
They will as well
@@Buzzinpattaya Holy crap!!!!
Can’t blame them either.
Another thing is never go back to the village with her and meet the Mom,you are then royally screwed,she then expects you to build a new house for her and a new bike and a new car an a monthly allowance of what she made in the bar.
Buffalo is arriving LOL
Best advice i ever got. Don't fall in love with a working girl. Don't fall in love with a working girl. Don't fall in love with a working girl.
Lol
Bullshit...you know nothing
Danger: you will catch feelings and she will detect this. You will then be milked for money. Not once in the history of Thailand has any bar girl ever left the bar because some guy from abroad was sending her money every month. What she's doing while you are away is lining up other guys to also send her money every month because she knows that you could drop her at any time.
They never miss a single thing
Respect the way you presented the good with the bad & the pretty with the ugly. Thank you for not sugarcoating anything.
Just me mate that's all, thank you
My wife is Khmer, and my only advice to anyone starting a relationship in SE Asia is to put the time in. Get to know each other and iron out the cultural differences. It takes years, but it's worth it.
100% agreed
You made a mistake with chicks in the West. So, you go to the East and make the same mistake again?
The more time you spend with a woman, the more it costs. The cheapest is short time. The most expensive is a long term marriage. Don't believe me? Either you stay married and if you're like most people spend 110% of what you make or you split up and it costs you a house, half your retirement and alimony. Divide that by the number of times you got laid and youll see short time is an extreme bargain. You can get lucky for the price of dinner for two at fucking Applebee's and then have the other 22 to 23 hours of your day to do what you like.
Fair one mate
We need wives to raise kids. No kids - end of nation.
@@dmitriikurilov3662 I agree with you in theory. In reality it's more difficult than it sounds. Marriages have their ups and downs. It's cliche but the downs can be pretty miserable. If it ends, your life can be very adversely impacted, both financially and emotionally (your kids). I'm still married for 20 years. If this doesn't work out, I won't do it again. My advice to my daughter would be get married early and often. My advice to my son I don't have would be choose very carefully because it's the most important decision you'll ever make. May the odds be ever in your favor.
@@stevend8785 I have been married for 20 years myself and I see all the challenges I had as necessary sacrifices.
If I want my bloodline to continue on Earth I have to make sacrifices, it has always been so and will always be.
But it does not mean that I cannot get loose and go to Pattaya or any other destination like that for having some fun.
I am a husband, not a slave after all 😉
Going to Thailand can be like going to Disneyland. By all means enjoy the rides, just don’t try taking home your favorite one, unless you have the cash and space to maintain it.
Exactly, well said
Married 13 years. All is true. Sleep, Eat 5x day, Shop, Shower 2-3x day, Thai Time and Jealousy. 20 sauces in the fridge the entire ocean in the freezer and nothing to eat at home. Clogged drains. But like any other girl remember once you put a ring on it sex is over. I don't care if you think your relationship will be different, it wont. Good luck.
Haha cheers mate
Been married 7 years, still active sex life. So it must be you.
I'm not even going to Thailand but watched the whole damn video!
lol, cheers mate
Me too!
As an ex-grunt, I saw you for the same a minute in. Thanks for confirming that. UK, US military have been around the world for centuries :). A lot of us have been there, done that. I still fondly remember the time I spent hours, ok maybe two, convincing an absolutely gorgeous Colombian girl, beautiful girl, blonde hair to her butt :), in Colon Panama to go sightseeing with me the next day to Toboga island. She went back to Colombia the next week, after making beaucoup bucks in the canal zone. No regrets. Thanks for the vid. Subbed.
Best time of my life
I'm ex navy we went to Pattaya Beach in 93 met a girl there and we had the understanding that we would not fall in love with each other we spent the whole week together and it was great so I suggest make you expectations known upfront before you haggle the bar fine
Great shout that mate
Great advice.
Great video mate. Nailed it. Should be required viewing for any new guys heading over to Pats. It sounds simple until your drunk and having the time of your life.😄
Thanks mate much appreciated
Trial by fire 🤣
Sponsored or not, as soon as you’re on a plane she’s back in the bar. Don’t be naïve.
Gotcha
I broke the 3 day rule. By a long way. Now been happily married for 16 years 😝.
Fantastic mate fair play
Beat ya. I've been with my bar girl for 26 years. And it's been great.
This other guy says you are "filth". But you are happy, he sulks.
CONGRATULATIONS James. Some times we can find a good one.
As they say, you can take the girl out of the bar, but not the bar out of the girl. Personally, i have a 2 day limit on barfine girls. Also, if you like the bar because you consistently see a lot of stunners in there, have a talk with the mama-san. First, buy her a drink and politely ask if u can speak with her for a few minutes. Compliment her on her looks. I usually say something like, "look at all the beautiful well mannered girls in this place, that must because of you. You are beautiful, so the beautiful girls like to work here." Any charming BS is fine. Tell you like her bar and you are a social butterfly. You are always good to the girls, but you only take each one out for 1 or 2 days max, then you want a different girl. Its not because the girls before are not good, you just like variety. Each time you come, you are going to select a new girl."
Some of these mama-sans are surprisingly good conversationalists, even with limited English. If she is fun to talk to and she seems to have the time, then roll with it. Maybe buy her a 2nd drink if it seems appropriate. When done with "the talk" giver her a generous tip. If you think this is wasted time and money, to each his own. But i would rather invest this money and see what fruits develop from it, because usually it saves me a lot of hassle. It's nice to walk into a place and have the mama-san genuinely be happy to see you. Also, if all the girls see that you and Msan are friendly, they are not going to cause you problems, one way or another. The girls are lions, and the Msan is the Lion Tamer. You just rent one of the lions occasionally, so leverage the L Tamers control.
I have been coming to Asia extensively for 20 years and never married one of them. I love them to death, but i love my variety and i don't want too many complications. For a select few i do have "sponsor" or "sugar daddy" relationships, but those are NEVER bar girls. The bar scene is not really my thing, and i come and go from it. Whenever i do come back to the bars, i always aim to befriend the Msan. If the Msan never has time for me, or spurns my generosity to her, that is NOT a bar i will come back to. Her girls will very much adopt her attitude. When you have found a place you like and are taking their girls, the next time you come and have selected your new girl for the night, if the last one is in the bar and everything seems cool, maybe buy her a drink before you leave with that nights barfine. To make sure the new one doesn't get miff'd maybe say "Honey, Tiffany over there was so nice to me last week, i'm gonna buy her a drink before we go, ok?" Again, maybe this is wasted money to you, but it works for me.
I only do the bar thing maybe 1 or 2 nights a week, so i don't mind spending the money on the nights i barfine. The rest of the time i'm working on my laptop online and/or having my Sugar Babies visit my condo at my convenience. I also enjoy hanging out in malls in Asia. In the West, malls bore me to death. But in Asia for some reason, i'm always entertained. They are so much busier and there is always a ton of eye candy walking around. Also, its fun brining an 18 year old hottie from the province to the big city and treating her to all the restaurants that her family was too poor to go to often. Often, they are in heaven just going to a McDonalds, then a local chain thats popular in the country, then Starbucks, maybe a movie, etc. I enjoy it and its cheap fun. Then they boink like a pornstar and after a day or two i send them back to their province with some of their badly needed college tuition money. Anyway gents, there is a multitude of ways to skin the cat, just don't fall into the traps as Mr Buzzin does a good job of pointing out.
sadly for some yes, temptation of money always wins
The Vietnam War created the sex tourism side business in South East Asia, so its a social legacy.
@@gregnz1 Yes, and a badly needed source of income for many families there. The girls really are fantastic there, but i realize that when there is a choice between honoring their family, and honoring me, their family will win every time. Thus, my selectivity and care, and my obsessive avoidance of marriage, though for a completely different reason than with Western women.
@@darnation8650 I have avoided marriage here, I have had my moments, women pick me up in sports bars, its extremely hypergamy.
Prostitution is legal in New Zealand, prices vary from 200NZD a hour, the minimum wage here is 20NZD,
I might have a look if i won any party money in the Casino,
Its all just a numbers game in South East Asia, gotta put 60k+ in a Thai Bank to live there.
I get a pension at age 65 in 6 years, its paid every two weeks.
I don't smoke, still have most of my teeth, sigh, they cost a fortune here.
@@gregnz1 I here you mate. I arranged my life so i make my income online. Covid messed things up for a bit, but i'm getting back in to my regular thing now. Three months in the States, followed by Three months in SE Asia. I ignore all women when i'm in the States.
In the US, your gonna pay at least $300 for an "hour" that really is 25 minutes at most. She's gonna lay there like a dead fish silent as the deeps. But if you don't nut in 10 minutes she's gonna say "you almost done yet?"
I'm still decent looking enuf to get "free" pussy if i wanted to put for the effort, which i certainly do not. American women are bottom of the barrel in the whole world. A lot of them beautiful on the outside, most rotten to the core on the inside.
Anyway Mate, for the best and cheapest pussy, you really can't beat the Philippines, IMHO. Though i also enjoy Thailand and Cambodia. The great thing about the PH is English is very common there. Not so much at all in Thai and Camb.
Take some regular trips to PH, from NZ you are rather close. You can do the bar girl thing in Angles City or Manila, or for regular girls i love Cebu. The girls in Cebu (Visayan speaking southern region) are much sweeter and more laid back that the Manila (tagalog speaking norther region) girls.
Very accurately and tactfully presented. Be aware it's none of those girls' dream to work in a bar and entertain tourists.
Cheers mate
I've been here 14 years. I have 1 ex-thai-wife and 1 current thai-wife. The 1st was 7 years of extremely loyal marriage. The 2nd has been 6 years of extrememly loyal marriage producing 2 children. My advice is if you're looking for a long term relationship stay out of the bars and far away from bar girls. Stay away from tourist trap cities and areas as much as possible and meet Thai people who will treat you better that the ATM in the local gogo bar. Be smart. Stay safe, stay healthy, and stay wealthy. #tacticaladventurerthailand
Well said mate
People who were never in the military or served time overseas don’t no what the Hell you are talking about, believe me. I was in the Marines, stationed at Camp Schwab in Okinawa twice. They were bringing girls over from the Philippines to work in those bars, and those rules were strict as Hell and the bar fines were huge. That mentality follows them after they marry a soldier and move back to the States with him. All divorces I’ve seen. It’s a whole different set of rules they never learn to abandon. Stay away! For your own good.
Respect to you my friend for serving in the forces
@@Buzzinpattaya thanks buddy👍
Having lived and worked in Bangkok since early 1990's I really enjoyed your advice it resonated so much but was somewhat on the conservative side. Pattaya is a holiday resort with high and low seasons meaning a business has a limited time to make money It is also unique in that most bar girls have at least 6 birthday's, 4 or more grandmothers who have risen from the dead several times. Mothers that have emergency operations twice a week. Sick buffalo, sour mango's and motor bike's that keep needing repairs that somehow cost more than new bike. Don't leave your brain on the plane and follow the golden rule of two strikes and out. Every day is Christmas day so why only have one present.
Thanks mate much appreciated
In the service in the 1970's friends of mine went to Vietnam. What I learned was "I love you GI, buy me Honda" Thinking with your little head and not your big head.
Like your video, good free advise from someone who’s been around Pattaya for ten years . Take your time and make your own decisions based on business spot on
Thanks mate
Remember the rule in Thailand, 'no money, no honey'... Have a budget, don't exceed it. Follow the rules in the video.... But unlike in the Western world, you do get something for your money/effort/contract.. Far better than the western marriage contract....
Indeed
Why not chat up/court a normal hard working Thai lady (sales girl,maid,nurse,etc ) and exponentially increase your chances of enjoying your Thai experience?
Why not indeed
I know many who have done this but when your retired wanting to travel and your Thai partner is working you spend 6 days a week alone. I was with a Language teacher it was great at 1st but only one full day together in the week is not enough. Girls with good jobs will not leave their jobs they worked hard to get. You could go anytime and leave them. Getting their job back is not simple here. I know one multi millionaire here who dates bar girls as they will be available 7 days a week. He has dated many hi so girls who will never give up their job to be with him full time.
Agree with much of this. The sleeping 14 hours a day, the jealousy of other women. As for the heartache from separation, I prefer it to the boredom of seeing too much of someone. The cost, less than most of my Australian girlfriends.
Fair one mate
Great advice-thank you " The most confused you will ever get is when you try to convince yourself of something your heart knows is a lie"
Indeed mate
Girlfriend, wife or Thai bar girl, everyone costs money. Some you pay upfront, the other you pay in a nasty divorce settlement, alimony. I would prefer bar girl anyday, atleast they are honest, no money no honey. Never break one day rule.
Well said
Exactly, I say that all the time. You are always going to pay. Traditional way, you meet a girl. Take her to dinner, shopping etc…it cost money. Escort, Thai bar girl, massage spa girl it costs money. There’s no way around it. So, pick which gives you the most pleasure and least headache XD
So difficult reading some of these comments. I have fallen genuinely and deeply in love 3 times over 3 decades. Every time I did everything I could to make him happy; worked hard to pay the mortgage, looked after the kids, supported him in every way. However I was abused and discarded each time. One would use Thailand as a threat... saying he would go to Bangkok and get a nice bar girl instead of me. I was never valued or loved, never. Breaks my heart to realise that men seem to think women are all manipulative gold diggers. It's absolutely not true 😭
Understand thank you for sharing and hope things get better for you
Most are so you will have a difficult time
My rule (based upon the advice of a solid retired USN guy in PI): One night and a wake up. No more. You are paying for a service.
Gotcha
Am I so lucky?
I met a girl on a chatroom. After almost 2 years of (everyday) chatting, I'm moving in Thailand.
I have graduated High School; she is educated.
I am unemployed for the last 13 years - she has a very good position in a company.
My income (from some rents) reaches the amount of $750 per month... she earns double money.
I just thank God and Buddha!
Enjoy mate
How do you know this is not catfishing scheme?
@@m.gilbert1176 Definitely a scam of some sort.
I'm not rich. I don't have any wealthy income. So, I have nothing to lose! I'm just moving there, because the cost of life, there, is more affordable for me and I can live more comfortable.
In addition: She is very close to my age - I'm 50, she's 45 - and of chinese origin...
When did you meet in person? You skipped that part.
You just described all women everywhere. It's exactly like that with all women.
gotcha mate
bro absolutely nailed the whole journey in this video 😂. this is great. in my experience maybe because my age (25-34) the girls tend to fall in love with me and ask for very little by the end if i have been seeing them often. but as i'm getting older now (35+) i am seeing the money part becoming a more important factor than being a cool young guy 😂
Thanks mate much appreciated and glad you enjoyed the presentation
“You can take the girl out of the bar, but not the bar out of the girl”……Old Nana saying…Those chicks are (amongst)my favourite party people, but getting serious is just trouble…😮
Okay
A bit long comment so please forgive me for that. I have had 4 girls that I took 3-5 days and had completely different experiences: Girl no. 1 was 11 years ago. Never seen her again. She tracked me down on FB and still to this day write to me from time to time. She is married and live in Europe now. Have never asked for anything form me. She just somehow put me on some kind of piedestal and believe that I am the one. Girl no. 2 is a super proff. Bar Girl - she knows what her job is. She never asked for anything from me. Just want to make sure that I won't forget her, so I come by her bar and see her at least once on a holiday. Girl no. 3 confuses me. Very beautiful Agogo girl that has completely left the business all together. Again - never ask me for anything. She is not even up for meeting since she quit farang. She just like to have - loooong - chats every once in a while. Girl no. 4 is what everyone is talking about. Calling me teerak all the time. Asking for money all the time. Asking for me to come there all the time. Got rid of her when she found out that I am not sending any money so she ghosted me. All in all I will do as I always do - whatever I want - longtime shorttime or many days. So far I have survived it fairly easy.
Wow thanks for sharing your experience mate
You'd be classed as a nonce in the west I can't believe you wrote that
Q: How do you make a prostitute your girlfriend?
A: Keep paying her
Marry her lol
And paying and paying and paying.. Hahaha. Endless merry go round with hookers. But ton's of fun with the rite ones..
Ive never had a bar girl, my wife is an accountant from bangchat petroleum met her while teaching in thailand and been married 19 years ,but you are spot on about the bar girls with all the stories ive been told do relate to what your saying
Fantastic that you have found a genuinely nice person good on you
Every word spot on. You stayed over there but for those 'old' duffers who are fool enough to fall in love with a bar girl, marry her and bring her back here, within a very short time especially getting clue up on our divorce laws, realizing how far more attractive they are to most British women, due to the great amount of interest she gets from younger men, will very quickly dump the old guy and find a younger one or take up her profession again and make a lot of money.
Thank you mate much appreciated and great response