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The title should be changed to "Don't ever take an out of warranty car to a dealer"
That $1300 transmission service is about $125 to do at home and many independent shops wouldn't charge more than $300-$400
Being a car guy and not being aware about the lack of reliability on Audi is mind-blowing.
Never underestimate how shitty an Audi is. They are notoriously bad. Even a brake job is over $1000
When they are in proper working order they are amazing though. One time I was driving to work on the highway and a dumbass in a ram swerved in front of an SUV and clipped it on the freeway and it was heading towards me in an A4. I could smell the burning gas and oil but I slammed the brakes swerved around the fireball wreck in front of me and got over to the shoulder to call 911 and see what happened to my car and it was completely fine. For some reason German cars cheap out on plastic parts, but there handling is second to none. Lease German buy Toyota/Lexus (maybe Honda too if their transmissions are working).
"Break Out Another Thirteen-hundred" 🤣🤣🤣
boom! roasted
@@brianbeam361 $1k, not a dealership. I have seen $4k brake jobs on average for Audi's from dealerships. They are extremely proud of their labor and parts.
I've owed three Audis a 2013 b8 S4, a 2019 b9 S4, and a 2019 rs3. They are phenomenal cars. I've modded all of them and they are very fast and very reliable. This guy doesn't do his research and purchases problematic models. For the last eight years, I have enjoyed them immensely.
I agree
Are the S lines more reliable? I am about to purchase an A5 2.0T w/54k miles on it it drives reallly nice! What are your thoughts? I am aware of European car cost as far as repairs I own a 2005 Volvo s80 it’s been super reliable aside of some minor fixes.
You’ve bought much more highly engineered cars which aren’t comparable to an Audi family sedan and the likes. Also, you likely have the budget to deal with repairs if things go wrong. I’m on my 3rd Audi having had A4’s and 5’s and I can’t see myself buying Audi in future. I have driven 6 Audis in the last few months and every single one of them had problems, it’s rare to find one that doesn’t. The quality is gone to the dogs. I wish you continued motoring good luck !
@@Paul-cl6uo Did you buy every one of them new? Did you address any of the known items depending on your model and year? These are key factors to ANY manufacturer. If you think you can just go to another manufacturer and be absent these items think again.
I cannot tell you how amazing Subaru's reputation used to be about reliability. "200Kmi is just the break-in!!" and other bragertdoms. However, with the WRX? FOUR engines and THREE transmissions later... and NONE of it ever covered even when the car was within warranty. They got sued, lost and STILL do not do anything to honor THEIR defects.
Bottom line is, does the manf. stand behind their work etc.
The only car I've ever owned that was NOT the case is a Hyundai Sonata. Dollar for pound and performance absolutely the best money I've spent. $200 a month. 10 year 100K warranty. YES it had MAJOR issues that resulted in a class action. It had 2 motor replacements. On that 3rd motor I was outside of the warranty and even the law suit extention. They still honored it, provided a nicer loaner (Azaria) every time they had my car, for free. I paid ZERO dollars.
Other than that? I will NEVER own a Porche again. Absolute garbage and you have to take them and the dealer to court. (That dealer is now out of business)
Audi, BMW? So far I have no complaints with them. Again, did you buy new or used? Did you buy a VIN range of a model and year that had a known issue. A4 2008 2009 2011 are extremely problematic. 2014-16 are very reliable years. They had issues with gasket leaks on their 4cyl turbo engines, etc..
Homework before buying is the best solution to any purchase, new when you can afford it. Warranty plus no wear.
If you ever went to a dealer for service I promise that is 90% of why you have a bad taste of Audi.
Always go to a specialty private garage. They know more, aren't restricted by the manufacturer and are also more affordable. Plus they have zero issues installing modifications.
Start buying ones with a few features that make them stand out. My B8 A4 has been mostly reliable, my C7 S6 (modded also) not so much until it hit about 8 years. Both are at about 140K miles. It's the special features that other cars don't have that break like air suspention and FLIR.
I'm 79 years old and my last 5 cars have been Audis: 3 A6's and 2 A7's, and not one has given me any trouble caused by problems with the car itself . Once I had an issue with the dealer who scratched up my center console adjusting my GPS unit, but that's about it. Now if you buy an older car with a lot of miles and don't know how it's been treated (like this guy did) you may be in for some problems. Audis are precision pieces of equipment which when treated and maintained properly will remain in good working order for as long as you own them. But if you fool around with the horsepower, go cheap on the maintenance and do your own repairs when they arise, you're looking for trouble and you'll probably get it.
Ok maybe if you own them LIKE A GRANDPA LITERALLY😂😂😂
You only look for trouble making repair if you are a literal gremlin
@@fastinradfordableI guess you realize how you disqualified yourself from any quality response.
owned an 2012 8P for 5 years and had only typical issues and absolutely love the car
@@uthriangod8747I have a 2013 a6 which I take care of but I do not baby it. Never take it to the dealer put previous owner did . I have all documents never had a major anything other than a water pump . 218k running strong looks like new
Note to Craig…DO NOT take any more Audis to the dealership!!! They will FLEECE YOU!!!
SUICIDE
Also, don't buy a car from a used car salesman
🤣🤣🤣he should know that already, he made me laugh hard
@@robertbelardo7087 or 0ll
Also don’t ever buy German car again
The 1300$ must have been studied to be the just right maximum amount most buyers of these cars can shell out for a visit without feeling robbed. Who knows 😂
90% of people who only buy German cars know nothing about cars. They charge that price because those idiots think it's normal to be charged that just for looking at the car. lol
I spent 4217.73 cents my last visit because it wasnt shifting correctly transmission service oil pressure issues I will never buy an Audi again lets also add they had my car for 3 Months before they even touched it btw it's a 2017 Audi A3
I nearly bought an A3 S-Line identical to that one but fortunately I got a Lexus IS350 F Sport instead. I feel like I dodged a bullet.
1300 or 130? You sure itvis kot a three digit fee?
BMW are the same. I had a friend w one. every little thing was $1000 to fix
ive had several audis over the last 10 years and they have been great overall. service is the key!
Mine is serviced on time, many even early yet my S6 has had many problems. I'm a former mechanic so I know cars. Service is great, but sometimes luck is the key.
My SQ5 is serviced every 5000 miles, and tranmission service every 30,000 miles. Catastrophic engine failure at 47,000 miles (replaced) coolant leaks, overheating, burning oil. $90,000 car. Fuck Audi
@@thomasoneill1077 Was it the 2.0? My wife's A4 2.0 was rebuilt twice prior to 100k miles. Audi paid for almost all of it.
On the flip side, my S6 4.0 had an o ring fail on the turbo oil line. $1.00 at auto parts store. All in all that Oring cost about $5,000. $2,800 to replace the oil lines, they don't recommend just the oring, and the rest was for a coolant leak because the hot oil leaked on coolant lines causing them to burst.
............................................SERVICE is a rip off @1200.00 per visit
2 years ago I was looking at an A8L Sport vs S6; I have 3 kids and I knew they would break all the cool features of the A8, I opted for the S6, I'm glad I did. The S6 has been great to me other than the Pre-sense camera going bad and a new one is $1000, based on your video it will probably be another $300 to put it in.
Gday Craig,
I flip earth moving equipement here in Australia. I do most repairs myself. My wife’s Audi Q7 started throwing codes. Biggest mistake I made was taking it to Audi. They told me would cost 40k to fix and better to claim insurance as a technical right off. I was determined to fix it. Long story short a common issue is the heat exchanger on the auto trans gets a leaky valve that pushes coolant into the trans loom. Throws all sorts of unrelated codes. I changed the valve and trans loom which is all external and accessible. Runs 100% now. If you persevere with Audi, then get the VCDS diagnostic tool from Ross Tech. It will save you heaps. “DONT TAKE YOUR AUDIS TO AUDI! THEY WILL ROB YOU!!!”
Cheers 👍👍🍻
Great advice!!! I work on my own now too! Thankfully its honda service now. my B5 VW let me down too much
😆 40 grand, sounds like the technicians have 2 3 and a half hour coffee breaks per shift. 😂
Save your time and money and don’t get an Audi in the first place. Got a 20 year old Toyota, only changed oil and tires
I guess some people think the extra aggravation these vehicles give you is worth it.
but high end cars shouldn't have these stupid problems, but car dealers are as bad as drug dealers
Craig, if you think you have problems just think about the customers who will end up buying these cars. As a landlord I have saw many of my tenants so bankrupt from buying used high end cars. First they pay a high price for one with 100k miles or more and then very soon problems, and yes just like you said it's $1300 or more every time it breaks. Soon they are behind on rent, car has been repo for non payment, they are not going to keep making payment on a car that will not run, then credit is shot and all from trying to live a life and be a big shot when they didn't have the money to do from the start. My advice to working people, buy a cheap chev and keep it under warranty. The people in my world don't have $1300 just laying around for car repairs. You will never get rich from owning high end, high tech cars. Most people have poor financial knowledge.
Craig doesn’t care - move ‘em out!
I've done all the repairs. That's why I've had them for months
buying a chevrolet is horrible advice
You are so spot on, my former neighbor bought an Audi SUV and the arguments with his wife led to their seperation. It was an absolute money pit
@@alifelongsong Right? Like the only good chevys are ones with V8's in them and "body on frame". Other than that don't buy them. If you want a good used car that's not going to destroy you to drive just buy a used Toyota or Honda.
Crazy how I have a 2011 a4 running at 170k miles yet I haven’t had a major issue rather than a misfire due to coil pack going bad & some carbon buildup that I already planned to clean up
I honestly couldn't have said it better than you did. I do h. V. AC for a living and have been doing that for 25 years. But it's taking a toll on my body being a car and automotive lover. In general, this is my future and what I look forward to doing. Buying good or great vehicles and selling them to good people. At a decent price, it's not all about the money. I truly enjoy it like you seem to
5:29 any time I take my vehicle to the stealership I say to them "you diagnose it, tell me the price, if that doesn't fix the issue, I'm not paying for anything other than the diagnostic" But ...."NO BUTS" if I bring my vehicle to you, the factory trained mech, you fix the problem, I pay you to fix the problem I'm NOT paying you to "try different things".
💯 they are criminals.
Hi, I have the exact opposite experience with Audi. I own an 2018 A4 Allroad and had a Q5 S-Line Prestige and both cars were ultra reliable, reasonable to service, and performed flawlessly. I think if you are buying cars at auction, you are purchasing someone else's problems people dump. I still love Audi's they are the best value on the road and I love they are performance based cars. I will also say, you may want to try a different dealer. Mechanics need Audi Certified Training and the dealer is only as good as the mechanics servicing their cars.
@@worduprussia8298 A BMW fan of all people, should not be disparaging Audi!! Geesh
Same experience with me.
Same experience with me. People will always find a way to bash any car company.
I've owned 3 audis these past 4 years ( S4 b8, S6 C7.5 and an RS3 8V) and i've never had a single problem with any of them. I never miss any kind of maintenance, and take good care of them. I always do my oil changes on time etc. These cars can be reliable if people start to actually maintain them the way they are supposed to. If you don't maintain your car, then it's going to have problems. Simple as that.
And on top of it these cars tell you everything that’s wrong with them. When the problem starts They’re so smart how can a person ruin these cars? They even have sensors all around the car so you don’t hit anything these cars are too smart to ruin.
I’m on my 3rd Audi and have not had any issues other than wear and tear. Previous cars I had for over 10 years.
I don’t understand how you don’t get that the DEALER SERVICE was your biggest issue. Also how are you not at least driving the car around the block before leaving the dealer? You wait till you get home to discover nothing is fixed?
My Experience with the Dealership, they usually have an inexperienced person working on your car. They misdiagnose things constantly but charge you ridiculous prices.
You can take your car to a dealership, and explain exactly what the problem is, and they will ignore your input, and do a lot of unnecessary steps, only to conclude you were right about what was wrong in the very beginning. Their excuse usually is; " it needed those other things anyway"... They have your car in their possession, and you are at their mercy.
Most work flat rate so some do a crappy job out of spite
Here in Europe Audi is pretty reliable. I don' know why this is the way it is in America :D
Above is my experience at the Volvo Dealer in Albuquerque, NM. I had a XC60 that was shuddering during hard acceleration. They charged me $200 for diagnosing it and wanted to reprogram the transmission computer for another $200. In the end it didn’t work. I took a Volvo specialist in Santa Fe and he found the problem immediately as a bad spark plug. He fixed it within a few hours. The dealer got me for $400 without even finding the problem.
In my experience you are better off finding an independent specialist. Screw dealers. They have hours they charge for jobs whether it takes that long or not. Lower level techs that don't know what's going on. Brought my Honda accord in for a simple service and oil change. Service tech called telling me my entire rear driver brake assemble and line needed to be replaced because it was shot. She said "it was pissing brake fluid". I got in one of my saabs drove down to the dealer and made them show me the car on the lift. They were hesitant at first. I was demanding. I made a tech lower the car on the lift, made another get in, start the car, and made another raise it. The tech pumped the brakes. I asked the tech where the pissing brake fluid was. She looked at me like I handed her a plate of shit. The brakes were fine. They were replaced 5 months prior (calipers rotors pads all around) and there was no leakage. They didn't expect me to challenge it. Another Honda dealer squeezed me for a brake fluid flush. Never again. They wound up seizing my rear calipers. I noticed it 2 days later. When I brought it back they claimed it had nothing to do with them. Had to fight it with honda corporate. Mind blowing. Screw dealers.
@@patrinoo138I think the brand had serious quality issues myself and I live in Europe but the garbage fuel they have in the US is surely a factor…87-91 octane versus 95-98 in Europe
Years ago a car magazine article stated that Germam automotive engineers, when looking at a design problem, ALWAYS choose the most arcane, complex solution. Shortly thereafter, I learned about an Audi that didn't have a dipstick for checking the oil; it was apparently done electronically. It rarely makes sense to make a simple task more complex.
I owned an '09 Audi S5. I was the first owner. I purchased the maintenance plan. It did not have an oil dipstick. It never ran quite right. When I took it in for its first maintenance service, the dealership insinuated I'd let oil out of the engine. Huh? I don't work on cars; that's why I purchased the maintenance plan. I got rid of it within 2-years. What a weird ownership experience. I'll never purchase another Audi product.
these are tricks to milk customers!
I think Mercedes started that no dipstick thing, then BMW followed, and eventually Audi.
Old story: if and American engineer can design a system with 10 parts, the Japanese can make it with 4, the German will use 100 parts
I bought a low milage 2018 S6 exactly 3 years ago and it has been amazing everyday I drive it. I have a 93 stage 1 tune on it and its a rocketship. Aside from buying tread, winter and summer setups, it has been gentle on the checkbook. It just hit 50000 miles though and I am already getting antsy about potential failures on this platform that may arise, pcv/engine mounts etc. Fingers crossed that she holds up and I can avoid the nightmares you have experienced.
I got a 2016 audi s6 bought it with 48k miles and one owners, so far no problems all i did was brake change and oil change every 5k miles
I lost faith 16 years ago. I loved audi performance but the issues aren't worth it
They should name their Audi A1300
I'd love to own a vehicle such as an Audi Q5 or BMW X5, but instead I went for reliability and economy and drive a Honda CR-V I bought new over 17 years ago. It's not luxurious or notably fun to drive, but a mechanic I've brought it to in the past claimed that they hardly ever see me.
@@Blu3_777 highly underrated comment
just like the most EXCITING women💃🏼
Yes, early to mid 2000s was the end of Audi's 'golden era'. These cars used has to be owned by a car hobbyist.
Dealing with the dealership service department was the worse part of the whole Audi experience for me. It forced me to become my own mechanic. You get one thing fixed and it comes back with other issues. They don’t know how to fix their own cars and you need their proprietary software to program stuff now.
It's all a scam, the entire car industry (except for maybe the Japanese one ) is dumping quality for some bs emission scores. American cars are no better they just don't care about the consumer. Imagine how many people are losing thousands for repairs, why would GM, Audi, or Chrysler stop the flow of cash from parts and repairs ?
I got same problem on my Audi, I fix one thing today, and another problem appears tomorrow
@@vailtonbeserra9408they do this to rake more money outta you
@@vailtonbeserra9408I wanna buy a Audi A6 2015, it has 84k miles and They want 13k you think it’s worth it ?? If I pay it off and put up 5k upfront ???
Yeah same my car went to the dealership one time when i first got it and hasnt been back since. Im a certified audi mechanic at this point lmfao
Before considering buying another used Audi, I contacted a respected independent Audi repair shop. I was quoted 30+ hours of labor and $10k+ to replace a timing chain. Audis and BMWs are great vehicles to own when they are on warranty. If you own multiple oil wells, they may be great vehicles to tune and modify to peak performance.
The Misfire is most likely due to a burnt exhaust valve iv seen it on the 2.0t even in my 2.0t what I believe it to be is the fuel injectors getting carboned up and leaning out that cyl. Causing a lot of heat in that cyl. In my car I just got a set of valves inspected the head surface guides and seats all was good lapped in new valves installed new stem steals and cleaned my injectors and flow tested them with my injector test machine put it back together with new timing chains and tensioner $600 runs like a top. I was also lucky to have no damage to the turbo. I suggest taking a bore scope and looking at the turbine wheel to make sure the valve did not take a chunk out of it
While I am an Audi fan and no stranger to the reliability issues with them, it sounds to me that your big issue is your dealer. And it isn't just your dealer, mine is the same. There hasn't been a single recall that involves a decent amount of work that I have had them complete which didn't require at least one return trip to fix something they did incorrectly. The last one, a recall on my S5 that involved replacement of the Cats, the check engine light came on before I even made it home. Returned to dealer, they kept it another day, said it was fixed, picked it up and light came on again after a day. Returned to dealer after pulling the codes with my VAG-com but not telling them, and they claimed that there was a crack in a y-pipe in the exhaust and it would be $2,500.00. Once I researched the part they were referring to I realized that it was the section of pipe that the new parts connected to. They then tried to claim that it was like that before the repair which I responded 'so why wasn't the check engine light on when I brought you the car?' They finally agreed to replace the part they obviously broke and returned the car.
Once the warranty is done I never, ever take my Audis back to the dealer. I use a good independent shop instead. Most are owned by mechanics that used to work at the dealer and left in disgust. Most dealers are just guessing at repairs and when they get it wrong, they still want you to pay. When they get it right, the usually screw up something else while repairing it.
Unfortunately these Stealership’s need a fist in the face.
you summed it up nicely
wow, I can't believe i almost bought one
Most likely the reason for the shotty work with most dealers is because the dealership’s mechanics only get paid the amount of hours that Audi USA, Audi Canada etc head office defined that a certain job should take. If a mechanic takes longer than the stated amount of hours a job should take, the mechanic works those extra hours unpaid.
i’ve been told by an audi master mechanic that most times the book time for a job isn’t enough time...
*** AND GET THIS ***
Mechanics don’t get paid by the hour, only per job.
If there is no cars in for work, they are not getting paid.
So mechanics are incentivized to rush jobs in order to fit in as many repairs as they can to maximize their earnings - leading to rushed, low quality repairs.
That’s also why something that should take 15 minutes is charged a full hour - because they have to charge you by the book.
Dealerships are the worst. Nothing like a good german-specialized shop. They know everything of anything. Dealerships employed kids that just got out of school and they always got their diagnosis wrong.
Also, extended warranty are dirt cheap and give you peace of mind. I just bought a '21 S4 with 15 000km. I have it covered until 2028 or 130 000km for 3000$.
There are also many many insurance companies out there that can work for your exact needs. I could've get a full warranty until 2030 or 160 000km for 5000$ ! But im gonna get rid of the car before that so....Seriously, it's a no brainer for these types of cars.
My coworker has a A3 that has been at the local Audi dealership for over a year trying to get fixed. He actually had to contact Audi corporate to get involved and threaten to lawyer-up.
I’m still driving my 2001 A4 Quattro with the 1.8 T engine. I bought it new and it’s still running strong.
1.8 T is one of best engines they made
I have owned my 2008 Audi A4 Quattro since 2009. It has 78000 miles. Stay away from the dealership. Maintenance is key. I found German Autohaus for service. Installed stage 1 Apr chip. I’m 74 and like to still feel the turbo set you back in the seat. Love my Audi! Expensive to own yes.
The lesson here...Don't use dealers for repair work, find a good Independent Tech that is qualified and has left the dealer to run their own workshop. There rates are way better and are often seasoned tech's that have more experience than anyone in the dealer
This is true. You buy any german car and you take it to the dealer, then you deserve to get ripped off. People need to start learning how to wrench themselves. Plenty of youtube tutorial videos
@@nathane2243Generally agree, but remember that many who buy these cars are older or elderly, not mechanical, have no clue how cars work, etc. Also, it has been increasingly the case that to get to a part, you often have to remove a bunch of other stuff. My late 1970s first car was child's play. The ones the last few decades are another matter.
I also own a small lot and have been a longtime Audi enthusiast. I used to love them as well. I agree that the ride, style and luxury are amazing but the quality seems to keep slipping as they get more complicated with all their electronics, miles of wiring and countless ECU's and modules. I think they hit a high point in the late 2000's, early 2010's. I have basically become an Audi/VW mechanic because they have so many issues and have become so expensive to fix. SMH. On a side note, it sounds like your local dealership has a horrible service department. I know if one of my customers came back with these issues not resolved that there is no way we would charge them. We also would never let the car leave the shop without thorough testing. Lastly, you can program things like the MMI unit, etc yourself with VAGCOM. You can also unlock tons of cool features with it. Def a must have if you're into Audi/VW.
What are some good brands in your opinion or worth the $?
High point in the early 2000s to 2010s?!?!? That was damn near the worse point for Audi what you mean lmfao. They made some cool cars at that time yes but the reliability was complete shit lmao, its got much better since then not worse what are you talking about lol.
@@5150B9 I would never call them reliable so it's all relative. What years do you consider "reliable"?
@@automotiv_imports I never said any were "reliable" I just said 2000 to about 2014 ish are by far the worst and that's a WELL known fact lol. Now as far as what years would I buy? Anything after 2016/2017 from what I have seen. My 2018 A4 sline has 90k on it and I've only done one repair which cost me 150 and 20 min of my time which was the oil separator, other than that just basic maintenance which I've also done myself so thankfully it's been cheap lol. But yea I'd say anything after 2017 to be safe would be the best years to buy if you plan on keeping it past warranty expiration lol. But then again my boys 2012 s4 has 150k and absolutely 0 issues and he's stage 3 lol. So I mean it's all relative and depends on how you drive and maintain the car really.
@@5150B9 I've had a couple of B8.5 S4's and will admit that they were both pretty solid cars requiring little. The supercharged 3.0's are great engines but even they suffer from timing issues.
I had a B6 S4 with mild engine mods. Took it into the Audi dealership every other month because of MAF sensor issues and spent over a grand. I absolutely love the brand but hesitant on buying a newer model. I am now driving a 4Runner that has been extremely dependable the past 10 years.
I just bought a pre-owned 2023 A4 S Line 45 TFSI but it only had 2k miles and CPO (it was loaner vehicle for Audi for 6 months but barely got driven) so I got warranty till 2027 for bumper to bumper. I’m wanting to keep this car a long time, do I need to be worried?
This same scenario he mentions here has happened to me with a Mercedes at the dealer. They happily throw parts at it ( and charge you) and its still not fixed
SO frustrating...having one of these out of warranty can be a nightmare. However their fast falling resale value is likely supposed to compensate the buyer for repairs costs, time and trouble
All your videos are good, because they are honest about costs associated with buying, selling, fixing, or getting a car from auction. Not many videos on youtube are this straight forward.
I bought a used 2011 Q7 patrol 3.0L 9 months ago. It ran well for the first 6 months. After the 7th months, oil leaking, front differential noice, axels… the list goes on…
Great review, Used to work for a supplier for Audi ! I’m stocked with how bad they have gone, I’d never buy one now!
It's amazing how bad dealers have gotten. I've had similar experiences. They try to soak you for everything.
Good to see German glad he's doing good.
He needs to get a real mechanic close to him .
I bought my first and last Audi in 2021. It was a 2021 A6 Premium Plus with the executive package. Around 3,000 miles Audi pushed out some “update” that froze the dash, and two screens and made the car unusable. I call my dealership and get we can schedule you in 2 weeks. Sold the car the same week and bought a Lexus.
I have a 2010 Audi A5 3.2. FSI. This car has given me troubles, however after all those problems the car has ran strong. I believe you must take care of them diligently.
I have an 08 audi A6, bought it with 80k miles and its now at 230k. Gonna run that thing into the ground. Only problems so far is electrical issues
Got a C6 A6 too, Been one of the most reliable cars I’ve ever owned! Not all Audi cars are problematic, The 2.0t is just garbage.
@@DMoney505 the 3.2L NA V6 is a good engine apart from the oil cooler flaw. An oil cooler replacement job is a lot better than having to get a remanufactured engine
@@DMoney5052.0T isn’t bad at all, A3 and A4 are some of the most reliable models
My father has been telling me this for years lol. I was hoping that this new wave of Audi’s faired better because they are so good to look at aesthetically but this breaks my heart lol. He’s been telling me this since I was a child growing up and every time we’d pass a BRAND new Audi on the side of the road with blinkers on (it was often), being ready to be towed he’s laugh 😂 and point it out knowing I was already in love with these cars as a child. Sheesh. It hasn’t changed much!
Well most of the old audis are very reliable. 1.9tdi, 1.8T, 2.5 Tdi (2004-2005), 2.7 biturbo v6, 4.2 v8 (used in rs6 c5). If u maintain these enigines they easily run 400 000 km+. More than youre american trucks or bmw’s who eats up timing chains.😂
Thanks for sharing!
Few things to mention. Find a reputable shop/mechanic instead of the dealer. Also, use quality parts. ($150 for a coil/spark plug kit? Genuine VW or OE/OEM replacement options are well over that.)
Anyways, thanks for the video!
Similar issue happened to me with my 2009 BMW 535xi. The car had 80k miles on it and came with a 90 day warranty. Bought it used from a reputable dealer and drove it 25 miles to my home. The next morning the car starts rough and runs even rougher. I somehow manage to limp it back to the dealership.
1st time at dealer: they say it’s running fine and they can’t find anything wrong with it. I start to drive back home and 20 miles into the trip the engine just quits. Towed back to dealer.
2nd time at dealer: dealer replaces a coil or two and says it’s ready to go. I start driving home and the engine temp is at the max so I immediately stop at shut the car off. A little smoke comes out from under the hood. Car will not start back up. Towed back to the dealer.
3rd time at dealer: I get a loner and I’m set home. Four weeks later I call to see what is going on and they still haven’t figured out the problem so they send it to an Audi dealer. Turns out that it had a crack head.
The story ends with the dealer I bought it from telling me that they will not pay to fix the cracked head and I need to return the rental. I end up taking a 10k loss and sold the car. I did inform the new owner about the head and all of the issues.
Dang, Craig! I hope you don't make too many more of these Audi videos or you might convince me to sell my 2014 A6 TDI which I REALLY love!! This video did convince me not to buy an A8L, which I have been very tempted to do. I 100% agree with EVERYTHING you said about the S6. So tempted to get one but I know it will be too tempting to drive it fast and I don't want a ticket. I'll be content with my A6 and the awesome Bose sound system! I'm so glad you insisted on your money back when the dealership told you the problem, charged you for the repair then it didn't fix the problem. Great video!! Love your content!!
a ticket would be the least of your worries i would be worried about how long it would take to the next check engine light
Pay no attention to Craig his experience is his, not yours. Audi has been making cars for a long time; they make a good product with a lot of loyal customers to show for it. If not Audi what? Are you gonna go American? When did Ford and Chevy become trouble free and cheap to repair? @@u-know-this
As a VW owner those years were known for VW and Audi vehicles to have a lot of issues oil leaks, PCV, and the more serious one Carbon built up issues. They are fun to drive but they are known to be maintenance princesses so you have to fix them right away whenever an issue appears or else. Also independent VW/Audi mechanics are way cheaper than dealerships.
Carbon build up is not an Audi VW issue. It’s a common unavoidable issue with direct injection in recent fuel efficient engines. Old design using port injection washes away carbon. Just make sure you do the carbon wash when the code comes up.
Carbon build up is an obvious sign you don't know how engines work and how to drive your car.
I feel your pain. I bought a 2015 VW Jetta with the 1.8 turbo and it had 90,000 miles on it. It was regularly serviced and after a month of ownership the low oil pressure light came on. I checked the oil and it had oil so I took it to the VW Audi dealership. After $5,000 in shop bills they tell me there is metal in the oil pan and it needs a new engine. The new engine was going to cost $13,000 including labor. So now I'm stuck with a broken car and 5 more years of payments at $400 a month.
Thanks for this video man! If someone with your smarts as well as a decent level of automobile knowledge can still get dicked around by the dealer it gives us regular schmos no hope in dealing with the stealerships. I need to just start leasing my vehicles man. Even buying cars w manufacturer warranties doesn't guarantee much. In my older age stress like this is unnecessary and potentially deadly lol. Leasing her I come
He’s obviously not that smart if this is what he’s doing for a living and he’s taking his cars to the dealer. Anyone who knows what they’re doing when flipping cars finds good quality shops to work on their cars from mechanical stuff to paint. The dealer is where you take a car that’s under warranty or recall. That’s it.
I am unsure why anyone would buy an Audi money pit. Can you imagine your customers delight when they discover their used car just ate their 401k? I think these thoughts each and every time Craig becomes tumescent over one of these money pits. Thank you for being honest Craig and showing what happens to the money pit cars with nice seats.
yeah, a VW is very similar, especially in higher trim, or a seat cupra, and although I love the look of AUDIs and that quattro, even BMWs are rock solid in comparison.
04 S-Line 2.7L twin 5 valve with 277k miles all original equipment. Take care of your shit better
i love their A7 BUT im 100% getting an extended warranty if I ever get one lol
They’re great cars if you know how to work on them yourself. I would not recommend “normal” people owning them without any knowledge.
He's making a butt-ton of money off of those customers, so that's probably his motivation.
The car dealer where I worked got burned on so many Audis that we longer would resell the ones that were traded in! We would immediately wholesale them no matter how nice they were. After a couple of years we decided to take a risk on a couple of exceptional ones. Again, we got burned big time! They simply do not stay fixed!
I own a 2018 a6 2.0t s-line, and it was the best car I bought to date, 39k miles. I ain’t gonna lie, before buying my next car, I did my research about all the German cars I wanted and this Audi came out on top. In 2018 they fixed alot of their recall issues and built a more reliable car. I hear that 3.0 in this version is many troubles. But I’m happy with my buy. From NYC.
I bet you only get approx. 100k miles before expensive repairs. Buy 🇺🇲
Craig - I currently have an Audi (2016 A4 2.0 Quattro) with an APR remap. Anyhow - looking to trade it for a Porsche Macan GTS (another VW product) - am I jumping out of the frying pan into the fire? Are the macans/ Porsche a bit more reliable/ superior product to Audis? Any info is greatly appreciated.
My advice is to stop going to the dealership and find a good mechanic!
I am a mechanic myself and I can tell you that vw group products are much easier to maintain than other German companies! And much more reliable if you know how to service them properly! I have a 2011 s3 8p dsg with 210.000 km and never had any problems! Nice videos greetings from Germany
They're usually backed up for months
How do we service them properly?
@@KhinNinson Change the oil every 7-8k Kilometers with High quality oil! Use only good fuel in Europe we use 98-102 octane! Clean your valves every 80k kilometers with walnut blasting! Change some faulty parts from the factory for example coil packs change them with good ones from audi r8, warm you engine before you blast it... You can find a lot off information from internet if you search the maintenance depends from witch model do you have ..
@@Kils3111 I also agree after owning multiple brands and doing all work myself audi is really easy to work on compared to other brands. Especially MB (fucking Star-Diagnosis ...)
@@KhinNinsonUse 5w40 and change oil every 3k-5k miles. Audi’s 10k mile interval is such a lie, then people wonder why German cars are money pits😂 Don’t follow the brand’s advertised service interval.
Awesome cool nice to meet german I can't wait to see more videos posting regularly for us to see and experience what you do in a daily or weekly even on the weekends etc . Can't wait to see what you do when you transform all of your cars and suvs and trucks to voom quickly and your new inventory coming soon so excited
I’ve had a mix of amazing VW & Audi vehicles, fantastic engineering, fast as can be, wonderful cars. Only problem always in the shop. As result got rid of each one before warranty expired. Other cars are Japanese bought 6 new never had a problem with any of them.
I had a 2010 S4. It's ran well until about 79000 miles, it had many problems. I spent lots of money on it. The transmission was the most expensive. Later I bought a 1015 S7. Right now it also has 79000 miles. It has a long list of problems. One of the most costly is the transmission the dealer want $7500 to fix the issue. If I want to fix all the problems, it will cost me $20,000. 😢 September 8, 2023. No more Audi.😢for me.
Bruh lmao u got no idea how to own a German car is all. B8 s4 is a 2010. Common issues pvc, thermostat and water pump. DSG mech unit failures are common that’s why u go with a manual. Engine is super easy to work on your self. My manual 2010 s4 has 230k miles on it lol.
@@eazy_e.7153 Bruh Lmfao! You have no Idea what I did to it. I just hadn't mentioned in this comment. I have done all issues that you said in your comment. 🤙
@@eazy_e.7153 What percentage of people who own Audis do you think have the knowledge or time to work on their vehicles themselves? While I'm sure you're a great mechanic, your comment is incredibly naive and borders on stupidity...
Anybody in the business should know buying high line high mileage cars is the kiss of death
Had the same issue when I had my BMW, $1k every time I took it to the dealer. After awhile just started doing the work myself and it wasn't that bad.
Amen, that’s where I’m at. I have a friend at bmw and told them everything I’ve done on my car and it would have easily surpassed 7-8k at the dealership. Absolutely ridiculous pricing for simple maintenance and repairs.
Taking these cars to the dealer is a very dumb move. Learn to work on your cars and you can drive whatever you want.
12:45 just look at this scene for the ultimate "Audi Owner Experience"
Some Audis have an ICM located on the airbox ignition control module that will cause multiple misfires even after you change your plugs and coil packs
I have a 2013 Q7 TDI, got it in 2019. Best car I have ever bought. I was lucky, still had the factory warranty from diesel gate. $3500 in repairs the first 3 months. 1 year later 10K in exhaust repair under warranty. If you are going to buy 1, make sure the whole exhaust and emission system has already been replaced.
Craig, I am 63 and been an independent dealer for 40years. I stock late model domestics with factory warranty and Toyota and Honda up to 10years old. My agravation is minamal. I would not take a German car for free.
The decision whether to buy an Audi seems to me like meeting someone who, at first, you feel like this is a match made in heaven...I might want to be in a long term relationship with this person. They appear to be perfect - fit, hot, successful, talented, make you feel good when you are with them...but then, you find out they hate babies and they're mean to old people. They are an alcoholic, a crack addict, and they have HPV and syphilis. But the enthusiasts still wear these repair bills like a badge of honor: "if you can't afford to pay $1,300 every time you take it to the dealer then you're not worthy of driving an Audi!" MMmmm, okay.
I have a 2018 Audi A3 Premium and it's the best car I've ever owned. I did put a new water pump on it as a preventive measure but expect to receive compensation.
You might need a new Intake Manifold for your 2016 S3.
I'd heard it said many times, the German cars you buy in the US are not the ones you buy in Germany.
Good seeing German again! Man, the Audi seems like it’s a comedy show. I guess it’s the difference between mechanics who have the talent to diagnose what is causing the problem and not just throw parts at it hoping to guess correctly.
A risk Audi owners must gamble with and it's just stressful
What blows my mind is that people will pay half their annual salary for a car yet lack any basic mechanical knowledge and skill to take interest and work on their own cars.
It’s common knowledge that dealerships are there to rip you off. You would be surprised how much money you could save by learning to use a quality scan tool.
Bent valves at 79k miles - was the chain loose by that point?
Love to see you and German working together again 👍🏻
I love my 2014 A6 premium plus. 60k miles and runs like a top with dealer support and extended warranty.
The best way to fix it is to open the odometer panel, and kill the engine light or whatever light you can find there.
as for the issue on my MK5 GTI, it has low compression on Cylinder 1...Cylinder 1 = 60psi, looks like a new engine replacement or engine rebuild worse...very expensive work that's why it's sitting in the garage
In today’s episode, Craig FINALLY wakes up.
Craig, I manage a used car dealership in Canada and you can’t imagine how similar the vehicles we pick up are the same as yours. Audis/German vehicles in general are great. Just have to buy the right ones. No 4 cyl turbos, stick to the 3.0SC/3.2. The 4.0TT’s are absolute money pits, stick to 4.2. Have never had the infamous timing issues on one of those. It’s tougher to find, but definitely worth it.
And please stop going to the dealer for anything other than diagnostic and calibration. Find a specialist near you, they do an incredible job and figure out problems right away.
What about 2016 a7 V6, 3.0L; SUPERCHARGED
@@veei4762those are generally one of the most reliable engines audi ever offered, much moreso than the 2.0t of that generation.
@@veei4762very good engine
@@veei4762I bought this exact car two years ago. It has been reliable for me up to 60,000 miles now. *knock on wood. But everyone loves it and it is an amazing vehicle. I recommend finding a good mechanic that you can trust that does imports. Also tune it to stage one and get a new exhaust when you are able to and you’ll have the reliability of a 3.0 and the speed of the 4.0TT
And this is why I bought my last Audi with a full warranty, my warranty comes with a rental car while my car is being worked on. If you do your research, the V6 and V8 are not reliable at all. I refuse to pay 800$ for a sensor or camara.
I am working for German company in USA and we do have one Audi Q5 as a pool car for German managers. One day our secretary asked me to drive it to dealership because two days after regular maintenance it threw check engine. 1300$ to fix something ))) It is really their magic number. I own two Lexus and also drive company Dodge Durango 5.7 with 214k miles and they have never let me down.
Start buying Range Rovers next!
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drives for 1 mile. engine light on. oof
Rovers are even worse 😄
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My Audi brakes were $2500 all around from dealer.
I got rid of the thing a month later after being charged $2000 for 3 motor/trans mounts. Each mount was $400-600 because it has a stupid sensor, while all other normal motor mounts cost maybe $20-$100 at most.
I will never own another Audi unless they come with a lifetime EVERYTHING warranty, or I’m immensely wealthy :D, because they are fun to drive.
Who the fuck pays 2.5k for brakes 😂😂😂 More like 400 To 500bucks max
I put new rotors and pads front and back on my S4 and it cost me about $450, using very good quality parts. They key is finding an honest mechanic or doing the work yourself. If you cannot do either, get a honda or lexus. They are very reliable.
Does anyone know if other new cars need reprogramming at dealer if you replace a small part
what about the 2012 Audi A6 3.0T quattro Prestige is that any good?
Love Audis, my B8.5 S4 has had no problems all its life. Had a B5 A4 wagon 2.8L, B5 A4 1.8T, B6 3.0, now a B5 S4, no major problems. Also had a B7 S4, bought it knowing I had to do the chains. That was a pain but you got to know what you are getting yourself into. Best to learn to work on your own cars and be able to do maintenance that is beyond your typical spark plugs and air filters. If you bought that A3 and could not tell there were severe engine issues from the get go, then you might be in the wrong business hehe j/k. Hard lesson to learn. Had similar thing happen to me when I bought a r50 Mini Cooper... thought it was a head gasket and it turned out to be a completely blown engine. That was the first car I bought to fix up and sell and it was stressful to find out the engine is complete garbage.
Me recommendation is to go to Audi forums and find out the known issues with the model you are trying to buy and then see if you want to deal with those things either right away or down the line. Once those things are sorted out, they are a pleasure to drive for another 75-100k miles before something else that is major needs attention
Have a small dealership and repair shop selling and repairing only Audi VW and Porsche. I think if you're a used car dealer selling these vehicles and you plan on bringing these to the dealership for repairs you'll be bankrupt. You need to have VAG Specific scan tools, equipment , and techs who are capable of working on them. We've ressurected some seriously negelcted Audi's and VW's for customers which are running like a top still today after repair. Maintenece is the key with these cars. They definitely aren't Camry's and can't be treated as such. But if you maintain them properly they will last a long time.
This is the best advice. All VW Audi EA888 2.0 engine has the timing chain tensioner issue around 80k mileage, just replace it in time. Like Porsche 944 engine has timing belt issue, replacing the belt and water pump solved the problem.
I had a B8 s4 for 4 years and never gave me an issue. But once it got to around 90k miles, had to change the water pump and immediately sold it 😅
That's a wear item. I had to change the water pump on my honda at 100k miles as well.
I bought a 2012 s4 from Alabama 3 yrs ago ran good for a yr then Then I had to start Replacing stuff...and now my timing cover gasket is bad and the upper oil pan gasket....after I just paid 1900 for both head gaskets and oil pan gasket...timing cover and upper pan is 6k....I don't think so it's going bye bye for a lease
Dealers out here killing us with bills on these nice cars. What a bunch of headaches. Great to see German again, gotta find a way to get him back in vids again if you can. Thanks Flying Wheels!
Dealers make their money by servicing the cars, not selling them.
@@adcolt54- If a dealer didn’t make money from selling, they wouldn’t be doing it
@@josephseno8272 Gotta sell them so they can come into service later.
They should make An Audi A1300
Reason most Audi dealerships have really nice waiting rooms. I mean if you have to spend a hour or so every 6 months or so at the dealership, might as well be a nice waiting room.
A fellow grad student owned an Audi 100 in the early 1970's. He wasn't a car guy (barely knew how to turn a wrench) but he had nothing but headaches with it.
He got to be on a first name basis with the mechanic at the dealership. So much for German engineering.
They are perfectly engineered to fail right after warranty expires.
Whatever happens, I love watching Craig lose his marbles.. I do the same thing. He's so dam funny and he's really upset, but I love watching it. I know the issues suck on Audi, but he makes it pure comical and I don't know if he means to.. Which is why most of the videos are just great content man. Craig.. Keep it coming, and complain more!! I have a similar temperment as yours, and I can soooo relate!! People just freaking pile it on me too man.. Never ending crap.. Ahhh! Anyhow.... peace! ✌️
I think what a lot of folks don't understand about Audi, they are expensive to maintain due to their performance factor. There aren't many slow Audi's in the line up. And not to mention the bells and whistles they add to even the base models. There is also a good reason why the 3 year old Audi's are like half the cost of a new one, it's call under warranty.
I'm surprised your S6 is problem free lol. I had a 2017 S6 Prestige with all the goodies and it was by far and wide the most unreliable car I've ever owned. Freakin loved driving it but that thing got traded in the moment the warranty expired. It spent a good 3 and half months at the dealership out of the 10 months I owned it. Had the same issues with my dealership - total pain
A lot of German cars are pretty reliable if you do the maintenance.
My S6 was dealer maintained from day 1 and I did oil/filter changes between scheduled maintenance. Compared to the other 5 Audis I've owned, the S6 was a complete nightmare. Fun to drive but it was, without question, the most unreliable car I've ever owned@@anaccount7923
The misfire on your A3/A4 is caused by the intake valves clogging up from goo through Exhaust gas recirculation in combination with direct injection. You need to clean the intake manifold and intake valves. Audi and VW usually walnut blast them. That is a common issue on those 2.0 TSI engines.
Im not familiar with how it works in the us but Id think that if they did a recall job and the car has issues after its their responsibility to fix it?
Here in Sweden one have a 2-3 year (depends on what it is) warranty on shop jobs. That is if the same fault reappears within 2-3 years they are obligated to fix it. Its part of our consumer rights here.
Oh man you made me cry creg what I surprise to see you and jarmen back together what a video guys awesome content just awesome 😢❤😊
I think I'll stick with my little base model Honda CRV.
I love, Love the look of the A8 an A6. I just want to buy one and not have to worry about reliability 😩 why do the best looking cars have to be complicated
Audi 5000 was the last one delt with. They had gear shift problems. It would sometimes still be in drive while in the parked position and v/v
I owned a 1984 Audi 5000 back in the late 80’s. Best car I ever owned but haven’t owned one since due to the cost to repair….it was always nickel and diming me with problems such as sunroof slide, door locks and finally the electrical system.
I just had to google that, that's a crazy looking car. Haven't seen it before. But yeah if the electrical is giving you issues that's a bad time =(
@@TurboV8boi you will see a fair amount of older/classic BMW's if you look, you'll see literal tons of older/classic Benz's around from when they actually were "the best or nothing". You will NEVER see an older/classic Audi on the road because they are ALL the size of a shoebox right now in the corner of a scrap pile. And if 1 or 2 survived, you will get NO support from VAG. They ensure their older cars go unsupported, yet Mercedes classic still offers most parts for virtually any Benz that would still be drivable & BMW also supports their older cars.
VAG group cars are from Hell, engineered & built by satan.
@@RothBeyondTheGrave now that you mention it that's true. I do see a fair amount of bmw or Mercedes cars, like from the 80's, but I can't tell you if I've EVER seen an old Audi driving around... interesting. And kinda sad, I like seeing older cars in good shape still being used.
@@RothBeyondTheGrave its literally the other way around here. BMW and Mercs made before 1991 are nearly extinct while Audi 80 B3's (1986-91) are often seen on roads, because they're very well rustproofed compared to Mercs and BMWs of those years.
@@WymiataczPlays that's interesting. Where are you located? And sadly yes, they do definitely rot out. Older Volkswagen/Audi's structurally seem really solid & I wish they still had the simplified engineering philosophies they used to have.
My 2004 V70 has 178k and has had no repairs apart from a front wheel bearing, a PCV valve and the usual service things. My friend's 2003 V70 D5 has 242k and apart from a rear main seal and a dodgy injector, it had anything other than routine maintenance
Garbage volvo
I notice now at audi dealer service waiting it's what use to be. No loaner car and the only refreshment is bottle and instant coffee no muffin. Because I purchase extend warranty on q5 3.0t. I feel lucky.
I own a 2013 A6 prestige ( bought brand new) a 2017 A7 premium plus ( bought used 2019) and a 2018 RS7 performance ( bought brand new) currently with only 22,000 miles on the odo. It's 2024 and I haven't had a single major incident out of any of them and I'm pretty sure it's because I maintain them by getting the scheduled maintenances. With the exception of a few very minor dents removed ( I have a wife 😳) on the A7. They are good cars but like any car you have to keep with oil changes and expected servicing.
Audi's are great cars. I love the way they look and their performance is amazing. But as soon as they start to breakdown, they keep breaking down and it costs a fortune to fix them. There aren't many instances where I would go to a dealership to get something fixed if it was out of warranty. I always go to a shop like German's that specializes in those engines. When I had my garage, we used a placed called Reflex Tuning in Hooksett. All they work on is Audi/VW and maybe Porsche. It is great to see German again. Any chance you might share his business info?
Planned obsolescence, they're meant for a rich customer to have fun with and throw away.
so in other words they are NT great cars
@@toddlavigne6441 they are when they are new.