@@bigclivedotcom every year they do an April fool's day joke product. This was one of them. They have had light bulbs, fire hydrants, and even Japanese weaponry.
I had to pause and go back to verify Clive (and the brick) said "Bad Dragon" Clive you got some other hobbies besides electronics and theater lighting? 😈
He is a little devil Now isn't he LOL. And I think I know what the Trumpey brick is for as well. To throw at the tv or computer radio when Trump messes up... With is inevitable!!! All so when I bought the DOS game humans it came with something like that. But it was a sort of a rectangular rock. I asked that person at the store later what it was fore. And he told me he taught that it was to throw at the computer. when you failed in the level. By the way. Anyone get some thing like that in another game? Or anyone else recognize or has played the game humans. Or lemmings. Speaking of which from what I understand??? the original version of lemmings is available for Windows 10 for free. in the Windows store??? By the way I am playing the Android verson. It's a mutch mor of a challenge but easier ti play. All so I have plaid it on the nes as well. By the way. wats with the pass word system 4 keeping your place in the game. Is it for cross patforme. Because I remembered some one telling me. that surteon versions use pass words that work certain other versions on other systems. Pleas commit ok.
@@BilbyBaggins ar you actually being serious? I was windering if there was a name for that hobbey. All so I collect glass and ceramic and porcelain insulators. And uther electrical related stuff as well. Dose that mak me an electrician???
I was recently down on Beale Street in Memphis Tennessee at night, and I remember thinking how much Clive would have loved it. The entire street of music bars was lit up with custom neon and animated neon signs-- even the police station down the block had "POLICE" in giant neon letters down the side of the building. It would seem that they must have a neon bending house supplying the businesses in that area. Glad to see artisans like that able to be supported by a community.
Last time you did the neon led strip I went down the youtube rabbit hole of chinese manufacturing videos looking for how they where made, ranged from manual led strips being strung manually through an extrusion (looked to be about 20' long lengths), to automated machines doing everything in a one step process (hot molded neon strip) into an endless length (or until the massive roll of led strips ran out). High tech operations had a worker with a sharpie making the cut lines against a light table and yet another that had a laser etcher burning the cut marks. Rather fascinating watching the various methods. I highly suggest going on the youtube hunt for these videos. And the older led rope lights... oh man, the quality control was something to behold.
Sandpox, it most definitely is the bad dragon your thinking of. The people that work there seem to be technical and geeky. The best kind of people in my opinion.
My assumption is that may be the only bad dragon brick in existence. Perhaps a high up person in that company saw the other brick he uses and decided to have a one off brick made for Clive as a gift to the channel for all the good videos he does.
I can see this stuff being in every Christmas lighting display in a few years. Those lawn arrangements of Santa and reindeer. Wall hangings and the like.
@@Wise_Owl_94 Soon as it's down to around $20 for five meters shipped, you'll probably get hobbyist nibbles. Your site appears to be 'contact for quote', which generally means tacking an extra zero (or two) to the end of that target.
Tbh, I still love true neon. Nothing beats the true hand crafted bent glass tubes. More skill required to make, and lasts almost forever. More color variety, and just a more pleasing look. But the LED stuff isn't too bad. Maybe it's the glasswork I appreiate more. If there was a string of LED's i a glass tube, and diffused well enough, I'd probably like it almost as much.
I love the way Clive was fondling that stuff all the way through the video - that shows a passion for the product. I'll be keeping an eye out for this LED/neon. It could be interesting stuff to make custom Christmas tableaux and mural displays. . . Hmm. 😊
Went to New Orleans recently. Walking down Bourbon Street and the vicinity, I'm not sure I've ever seen so much real neon lighting and so little RGB LED.
I'm impressed. I could see some smaller Mom&Pop shops using these for their OPEN signs $15 for LED Neon strips, $5-10 for a power supply, $5 for a nice black/white board and some suction cups and some quality glue. I could see myself having fun with this in a little project car, Outline the rear window in 2 sides and connect them to the turn signals. Make sure everyone behind me knows what way i'm turning.
Nobody seems capable of getting a brand of electronic clothing onto the market due to the various difficulties of mashing together fashion/textile and electronics as it apparently makes things prohibitively expensive for them, not just to make but to pass all safety rules and such like, however, I’ve seen such things on China wholesale sites such as Aliexpress, so if you’re feeling brave...
I used to bend neon as a side job (and met my wife there). I always wondered if LED would be able to replace neon. The skills required to build an LED sign are probably way fewer. I see the LED strips in this video are not nearly bright enough for outdoor work. Neon also offers another advantage, that light emits from all directions of a neon tube. Still, LED offers some cool possibilities, like modulation of individual LEDs. Nice video!
I wonder what the structure is of older LED automotive daytime running lights, I have a chrysler 200 with individual Audi-like LED "lashes" that look quite dated compared to the diffuse strips
Good looking stuff. I just bought two 1 meter lengths, red and blue. I've been wanting to make a 3D printed "neon" in my wife's initials for her office. I've tried regular LED tape and it kind of sucks for it. But I bet this will work good. All I have to do is print the channel in the shape of the letters, then hot glue this in. Thanks Clive!
@@binky_bun o I think I reminder it was your user image that I render now. LOL. My bad. O By the way is it true that furbbeys can't talk. LOL. Sorry I am Mostley using Google voice recognition here! As I was saying before Google interrupted!!! Just curious Is it true that furries cannot talk? .
Something like that would be great for highlighting architectural elements. Such as edges of stairs, breaks in ceilings, for instance a line in a dropped ceiling. Even places where traditional lighting was always too big to fit previously, round architraves, small spaces between ceiling mouldings and ceiling or wall.
Hope to see you put your New And Improved Focus Placement Brick™️ to further good use! Couldn't afford my own while it was still on the market, and I hear it's generally not a good idea to buy from this company secondhand...
I've also been trying to figure out this "suspended in mid-air" thing. I don't believe "stick the neon to a pre-formed wire" is going to work; double-sided tape isn't very adhesive (check how narrow the underside of the neon is) and fails fairly quickly, whereas epoxy takes much too long to set (and you gotta hold the neon on the wire until all the epoxy has set) -- and superglue / cyanoacrylate tends to dry white and crispy, so is also suboptimal. Double-sided tape on to 3/8in 18-gauge aluminum ribbon would probably work, but that would still prevent sharp bends (folds) in the neon -- so doesn't tempt me. My best idea so far, is to hot-glue tack the neon to a transparent perspex / acrylic backing plate (resting on a sketch of the design, so I can see where I'm 'writing'); the hot glue should set in a minute or so, and I should be able to go letter-by-letter rather than have to build the whole sign in a single operation. Then probably clamp another sheet of perspex over the design (think 'sandwich'; maybe put bolts through the corners, optionally use two bolts to connect the 12V), and use copper or aluminum tape around the edges to 'frame' the sign and to keep dust out. In theory, this gets me a transparent sign in a skinny frame. Any better ideas, please?
@@ricktennyson4809 Do you have Google keywords or a link for that, please? So far, I've only found a guy using EL wire in heat-bent polycarbonate tube -- which looked kinda painful, although I suppose would work :)
Some of this stuff, has a cavity you can stuff magnet wire down to form it the way you want without having to hot glue it down to your perspex sheets or whatever.
There's definitely a little space / stretchability, but things are pretty tight in there (I'm looking at the same 'fake neon' that BC's demonstrating). Which means I doubt I could push a wire that I could subsequently bend, more than 6in or so. And I need to make words about 2ft long -- so let's hope the hot glue works, eh? I'll report back :-)
Those same keywords on aliexpress there is a seller with what appears to be this tape at $10US for 5 meters, although looks like it might not be the first-class quality ;-)
While resistive losses in the busbars argue against powering a long strip from one end, which will also make the lights at the opposite end a bit dimmer, the unwanted dimming can be evened out perfectly by powering just one of the busbars _from each end._ With the strip rolled up, for example, power the positive busbar from the center, and power the negative busbar from the outer end.
We got some snow flake lights last year that used this neon led rope. it is amazing how even 100 yards out you can still tell what it os your looking at.
one drawback, the solder ends, and even after you repair solder, is difficult to get a good weld. the wires will jump off at the most importune times, like in the middle of installation.
I remember that brick, I'm glad it's served a different purpose to what the manufacturer probably thought people may have used it for given they make many insertable toys... :P
This would be great for geometric stuff, and if you didn't mind that the backing board was opaque. I've been trying to figure out how to use penny nails or maybe dressmaking pins, to 'trap' the neon in place to write letters etc. Except that I also want the background to be transparent, and I can't go pushing pins into perspex, glass, etc.! :-)
Never seen your channel before but just subscribed, I've been doing car neon lighting for a while but always willing to learn more. Keep up the good work
Make that brick glow. Stick some LEDs in it. So it'll be the shortest albeit T H I C C E S T LED neon light. It'll be a very sad day when everyone gives up on making classic glass neon sign tubes. I may be getting old, but nothing like some pretty lights that you know it's a high voltage arc inside them. We've come a long way from lightnings in nature, to the same plasma channel contained harmlessly and peacefully inside a glass tube. We should never give up on that.
@@bigclivedotcom I actually own some (Burningman :) and mine is about 5 feet and the light is pretty consistent. And I assume you can up the laser power the longer you go. It's really a special looking piece of tech. Not cheap though.
Oh yes I'm going to get some, not sure where to put them but I must have some because it looks so neat and probably easy to manage unlike the terrible tape and it's terrible adhesive that just tends to stick for about a day and then collect a layer of fluff Just recently went to the local recycling center and got a box with like a dozen or so 9/12V power supplies for a couple of euros and this would be a perfect use for them
very interesting. Looking forward to future miniturization here equivalent to EL wire but hopefully more reliable. EDIT: A quick google and I've discovered "Side glow fiber optic" is a really cool search term, lots of stuff out there on ebay
For many application neon is the only choice. But any sensible neon sign fabricator would give both options and offer LED crafted in the style of a traditional sign.
squishing it flat ... that doesn't put too much stress on it does it? Could you glue it down like that, to make a full wall, maybe pass it through a diffuser for a light panel with minimal hotspots?
@Matt Quinn You left no indication of that in your original comment and I assumed you were joking, but I thought I would add the definition for younger viewers than us. I'm really trying to picture if JW would be any different stoned, having consumed lots of pot with lots of high caliber nerds. The idea of JW testing a fetish product in such a manner does leave me laughing out loud. For anybody not subscribed to John Ward's channel, here's a link: th-cam.com/channels/2uFFhnMKyF82UY2TbXRaNg.html He's a great chap!
Bouncing off the inside of the white channel material and then diffusing through the top evens out what would otherwise be quite "spotty" light (where you can see a bright-point for each LED). You can somewhat see that effect in the video but I am going to take Clive's word for it that it's not noticeable in person.
I wonder if a wireless powered version of this will be made i.e. powered by induction. Could even build in some intelligence with addressable LEDs for colour change and flashing. Wouldn’t be cheap if each LED had its own inductive pickup though.
Fascinating! I've been doing a lot of looking into various LED tape and kept seeing this neon style sets on Amazon for ludacris prices. Like $200 USD for 30ft. I do believe those sets were all A-RGBW, though. Still, there's no way they're THAT much more to manufacture. I design competitive high school marching shows, and I REALLY want to incorporate some high intensity LED effects on props and maybe inside the color guard flag poles, which just happen to be the perfect diameter to fit 18650 batteries. 😁 I would be interested in hearing the best way to control a bunch of ARGB lights wirelessly. We only have about 2 minutes to get all our equipment setup. I haven't checked to see if wireless DMX is a thing, or if maybe there's some radio protocol that could be used. All fun stuff, I just don't have all the knowledge in that field.... yet.
I would like to know if this LED strip was suitable for automotive applications. Would be great for the customising industry. There are people modifying car lights with LED's already, most are using white strip behind a coloured lens. This could reverse that, which then adds a totally different affect.
Have you seen Aldi's laser 'Cat Annoyers' yet? About a tenner, and the idea seems interesting. Is this the sort of thing that might be of interest? It looks suspiciously to me like the laser machine that kills people over 30 in the movie 'Logan's Run'.
I'm okay with one-sided light output, but I hate that almost everything of this nature will not do X,Y,Z-coordinate bends. LED tape, no matter how configured, will only bend linearly. If I need this on compound curves, I'm screwed.
I've made "Neon" signs useing this stuff for a sign company I worked at and let me tell you what you spend more time with the mess of wires on the back then You will placeing the LED strip great idea but pain in the ass to wire every small piece
I'm surprised you didn't try to use a continuous strip of LED neon (although I think that will also be a PITA). I'm hoping to do four graphics on a transparent backing, 12V powered at the (left- and right-) ends -- any recommendations, please?
I think your videos must be a huge contributor to the success of the Chinese electronic industry and Poundland! Now I'm inspired to create a custom neon sign. I know sweet fanny about circuits but I think I could wire up several lengths of strip satisfactorily but, being me, I'd like to animate. What component or circuitry could I use for switching on and off, in order to create the illusion of movement? I'm thinking anything between 5hz and longer intervals.
I've seen a bunch of halloween masks with look like a thinner version of this without the white part, is is the same stuff? It's pretty cool for having light strips all over your body, it even seems like it could be a fun kids project, if you have an adult hook up the battery packs after everyone is done with the cable
I think neon lights are beautiful in signage etc. I missed my chance of seeing the neon lights of hong kong streets before LED's started to take them over... I would love it if these types of lights would become more common :)
Back in 1971 when my son came into the world, I was, at the time stationed at Camp Haskins in Vietnam. I had to re-enlist for a year and extend my tour of duty in Vietnam for 3 months so I could take a 30 day leave to be present for his birth. This was our first child, it was important to me to be there. So it was, that after setting in an airbase waiting center we were told that the runway was shut down because of the crash of a Phantom Jet who returned from North Vietnam all shot up, and that we would either have to wait up to a week for repairs, or foot our own bill to fly from Tokyo to LA. Well I had a good bunch of cash on me, so I joined with a couple of other GI'S who were making their way home for some reason or another, and we hired a Taxi to take us from that airbase to Tokyo International Airport. Man what a ride, that dude had to get us there in a specific time to make our flight and he did everything in the book to do it, up on sidewalks around buses that were loading and unloading, but we got to see Tokyo at night, and the NEON was wonderful. I had only seen a few bar signs before, being from a very small town, so it was amazing to me, I still see those lights flash by even now 45 years later in my dreams. It was quite a trip to say the least!
How much light do these actually put off? I'd like to use them in a PC case, standard LED strips are so ugly if you can see the diodes themselves but these would be much more appealing to the eye to see.
Well, I just searched in AliExpress to see if there's something like this and Jesus it's cheap. 3'07€/5m if you get only the strip, around 4'2€~4'4€ if you get an adapter from 12v or 2×AA batteries.
*I have not looked for it* It would be cool if they had a WS2812-B style of these with a milky white "silicone" color stuff around it. It would be perfect for my arduino OBD-2 scanner project i had to make since BMW decided it was okay to not put the coolant/oil temperatures anywhere in my 2011 mini cooper's computer... I've made it into a cool addition to my car which has some LED's around the giant speedo in the middle, diffused by some milky wire wrap i found at home depot, synced up (roughly) with my tachometer, even flashing red when i red line. This stuff would look way better.
Bad dragon brick?
Didn't know they made bricks. :P
Whatever floats your boat. 👍
Shit a brick, I didn't know that either
I don't know if it was just a novelty or for filling large cavities. I got this as an unexpected from the company founder at a Glasgow meet.
@@bigclivedotcom Oh dear. Furrys have some odd things. But bricks thats a new one on me.
@@bigclivedotcom every year they do an April fool's day joke product. This was one of them. They have had light bulbs, fire hydrants, and even Japanese weaponry.
Thanks for making me google this.
I had to pause and go back to verify Clive (and the brick) said "Bad Dragon"
Clive you got some other hobbies besides electronics and theater lighting? 😈
@ultralimitededition it is called bricklaying...
th-cam.com/video/5McPF_LOvU8/w-d-xo.html
@@paulsengupta971 that's actually amazing...
He is a little devil Now isn't he LOL.
And I think I know what the Trumpey brick is for as well.
To throw at the tv or computer radio when Trump messes up...
With is inevitable!!!
All so when I bought the DOS game humans it came with something like that.
But it was a sort of a rectangular rock.
I asked that person at the store later what it was fore.
And he told me
he taught that it was to throw at the computer.
when you failed in the level.
By the way.
Anyone get some thing like that in another game?
Or anyone else recognize or has played the game humans.
Or lemmings.
Speaking of which from what I understand???
the original version of lemmings is available for Windows 10 for free.
in the Windows store???
By the way I am playing the Android verson.
It's a mutch mor of a challenge but easier ti play.
All so I have plaid it on the nes as well.
By the way.
wats with the pass word system 4 keeping your place in the game.
Is it for cross patforme.
Because I remembered some one telling me.
that surteon versions use pass words that work certain other versions on other systems.
Pleas commit ok.
@@BilbyBaggins ar you actually being serious?
I was windering if there was a name for that hobbey.
All so I collect glass and ceramic and porcelain insulators.
And uther electrical related stuff as well.
Dose that mak me an electrician???
I was recently down on Beale Street in Memphis Tennessee at night, and I remember thinking how much Clive would have loved it. The entire street of music bars was lit up with custom neon and animated neon signs-- even the police station down the block had "POLICE" in giant neon letters down the side of the building. It would seem that they must have a neon bending house supplying the businesses in that area. Glad to see artisans like that able to be supported by a community.
It's really good to hear that. In many parts of America it's been clamped down on by misguided eco-militants.
Ex neon Bender, will work for food.
th-cam.com/video/5McPF_LOvU8/w-d-xo.html
bigclivedotcom 😔
Last time you did the neon led strip I went down the youtube rabbit hole of chinese manufacturing videos looking for how they where made, ranged from manual led strips being strung manually through an extrusion (looked to be about 20' long lengths), to automated machines doing everything in a one step process (hot molded neon strip) into an endless length (or until the massive roll of led strips ran out). High tech operations had a worker with a sharpie making the cut lines against a light table and yet another that had a laser etcher burning the cut marks. Rather fascinating watching the various methods. I highly suggest going on the youtube hunt for these videos. And the older led rope lights... oh man, the quality control was something to behold.
There are two types of people in this world. Those that know what a bad dragon is, and those that don't.
Underscore dam right lol
3:
Those who don't know
Those who know
And those who have
(Some may guess the category im in uvu)
Those that have and those that want 👀
@@Racing_Fox Its when you start to import custom made, uh, "bricks" from the likes of Russia, that you have leapt off the deep end
I know what an angry dragon is
"What's the safest thing I can use as a cutting board? Oh right, this lithium battery pack" 😂
I was thinking the same thing when he did that.
I think maybe he did that intentionally.
Any thoughts anyone please comment on comment.
Just adding a little extra tension, that's all! 🐵
yeah he likes to be naughty :)
🤣 ... you could use gelignite as a cutting board if you were gentle enough 😜
@@maicod yes I would agree with that a lot of times I've noticed.
And frankly it does make it more interesting.
And more suspenseful Etc.
BigClive casually gets his Bad Dragon out and starts experimenting on it..........
Bad dragon brick... Is that their new product? Wonder what's it use case... I don't think you're supposed to shove it somewhere?
It's an April Fool's product from a few years back. It came with a free silicone fidget spinner, too actually.
Maybe it's so you can literally shit bricks...
@@Kori-ko April Fool's 2018 to be precise :3
@@schizokonoko shit it feels like I got mine like 4 years ago
Searched for bad dragon brick, discovered their youtube channel...no regrets.
P.S. the new led neon is interesting too!
They're super-geeky and technical. Most of their clientele seem to be super-geeky and technical too.
Wait, they do tech? Maybe this isn't the bad dragon that I'm thinking of
Sandpox, it most definitely is the bad dragon your thinking of. The people that work there seem to be technical and geeky. The best kind of people in my opinion.
My assumption is that may be the only bad dragon brick in existence. Perhaps a high up person in that company saw the other brick he uses and decided to have a one off brick made for Clive as a gift to the channel for all the good videos he does.
@@FreeFallFox1994 A small batch of them was made one year. I was given this one as a gift from them.
I can see this stuff being in every Christmas lighting display in a few years. Those lawn arrangements of Santa and reindeer. Wall hangings and the like.
I can't wait for them to make this addressable RGBW for pixel operations.
Adafruit has this
@@Wise_Owl_94 Soon as it's down to around $20 for five meters shipped, you'll probably get hobbyist nibbles. Your site appears to be 'contact for quote', which generally means tacking an extra zero (or two) to the end of that target.
They have them on eBay. I haven't tested it yet, but it probably works fine. It's just WS2812B tapr in the channel.
I saw the brick jiggling and thought that was some really weird rolling shutter artifact.
Then I read what was on it 😂
I've just bought three lengths of this stuff (red, blue, and warm white) and I love it.
Not sure what I'm going to use it for, but it's lovely stuff.
It's visually very nice. Worth having just as a toy.
Tbh, I still love true neon. Nothing beats the true hand crafted bent glass tubes.
More skill required to make, and lasts almost forever.
More color variety, and just a more pleasing look.
But the LED stuff isn't too bad.
Maybe it's the glasswork I appreiate more.
If there was a string of LED's i a glass tube, and diffused well enough, I'd probably like it almost as much.
Dan Coulson LED just doesn't have that beautiful glow...
And just when I thought your videos couldn't get any better, Bad Dragon shows up. That made my day, you're fantastic.
Poundland are now selling the LED tape with double sided tape on the back. 1.3 mtrs terminated with a USB plug.it seem quite bright.
It's running the LEDs a bit too hard.
I love the way Clive was fondling that stuff all the way through the video - that shows a passion for the product.
I'll be keeping an eye out for this LED/neon. It could be interesting stuff to make custom Christmas tableaux and mural displays. . . Hmm. 😊
I'm playing with that exact application myself. But only for indoor use.
As soon as the BD brick came out, I realized it has a new issue now, the camera can focus, I can't
Went to New Orleans recently. Walking down Bourbon Street and the vicinity, I'm not sure I've ever seen so much real neon lighting and so little RGB LED.
I'm impressed. I could see some smaller Mom&Pop shops using these for their OPEN signs $15 for LED Neon strips, $5-10 for a power supply, $5 for a nice black/white board and some suction cups and some quality glue.
I could see myself having fun with this in a little project car, Outline the rear window in 2 sides and connect them to the turn signals. Make sure everyone behind me knows what way i'm turning.
Crikey !! That’s flexible!!! I think it should be sewn into a tracksuit!!!
Adidas could sell tons in Russia
*hardbass intensifies*
I wonder how it compares to the light fabric they used in Tron...
Nobody seems capable of getting a brand of electronic clothing onto the market due to the various difficulties of mashing together fashion/textile and electronics as it apparently makes things prohibitively expensive for them, not just to make but to pass all safety rules and such like, however, I’ve seen such things on China wholesale sites such as Aliexpress, so if you’re feeling brave...
@@Lumibear. Time to chug the bravery juice and give it a go. Boom.
I used to bend neon as a side job (and met my wife there). I always wondered if LED would be able to replace neon. The skills required to build an LED sign are probably way fewer. I see the LED strips in this video are not nearly bright enough for outdoor work. Neon also offers another advantage, that light emits from all directions of a neon tube. Still, LED offers some cool possibilities, like modulation of individual LEDs. Nice video!
I wonder what the structure is of older LED automotive daytime running lights, I have a chrysler 200 with individual Audi-like LED "lashes" that look quite dated compared to the diffuse strips
Good looking stuff. I just bought two 1 meter lengths, red and blue. I've been wanting to make a 3D printed "neon" in my wife's initials for her office. I've tried regular LED tape and it kind of sucks for it. But I bet this will work good. All I have to do is print the channel in the shape of the letters, then hot glue this in. Thanks Clive!
One of the coolest things I have seen,
Is clives tools on AvE's channel... I don't know why but that really lit me up.
Brings a whole new meaning to "I LOVE MY BRICK!"
By the way just curious.
what is your user image from.
I kind of recognize it???
not sure from where..
@@aaronbrandenburg2441 that's Binky my fursona (I'm a furry). I commissioned an artist to draw that for me.
@@binky_bun o
I think I reminder it was your user image that I render now.
LOL.
My bad.
O By the way is it true that furbbeys can't talk.
LOL.
Sorry I am Mostley using Google voice recognition here!
As I was saying before Google interrupted!!!
Just curious
Is it true that furries cannot talk?
.
@@aaronbrandenburg2441 we can talk. Some don't talk in suit, some talk with squeakers and some just speak normally. Search for coopertom on here.
@@binky_bun Hello fellow fur ^^
@02:26 "You can cut this at every inch." That's what the rabbi said!
I love watching your videos. My wife says "geeking out is learning, use the big tv" LOL
Something like that would be great for highlighting architectural elements. Such as edges of stairs, breaks in ceilings, for instance a line in a dropped ceiling. Even places where traditional lighting was always too big to fit previously, round architraves, small spaces between ceiling mouldings and ceiling or wall.
SO many ideas for projects with this stuff...if only I had the time
This could help SO much for my TRON Legacy cosplay.
Hope to see you put your New And Improved Focus Placement Brick™️ to further good use! Couldn't afford my own while it was still on the market, and I hear it's generally not a good idea to buy from this company secondhand...
"You don't know where it's been"
"I **fear** I do"
:)
@@_Piers_ Cave exploration? 🤣
Dangit, I just ordered 5 meters of the green stuff for a random neon sign of my logo. Why do you do this to me, Clive?
Bad Dragon brick... I had no idea they made something so.. adventurous.
10:25 .... I shall put **hickup!** links to... LoL having a couple of drinks during the video??
yeeees
Would be nice with a built in "steel wire" that remember the message bent. If you want a suspended in the air kind of sign.
Cut out a design in plastic or aluminum and glue the strip on to it?
@@AllenKll what type of glue would you use ?
@@nancywright9923 hmm. Probably, I would use double sided tape, or epoxy.
I've also been trying to figure out this "suspended in mid-air" thing.
I don't believe "stick the neon to a pre-formed wire" is going to work; double-sided tape isn't very adhesive (check how narrow the underside of the neon is) and fails fairly quickly, whereas epoxy takes much too long to set (and you gotta hold the neon on the wire until all the epoxy has set) -- and superglue / cyanoacrylate tends to dry white and crispy, so is also suboptimal.
Double-sided tape on to 3/8in 18-gauge aluminum ribbon would probably work, but that would still prevent sharp bends (folds) in the neon -- so doesn't tempt me.
My best idea so far, is to hot-glue tack the neon to a transparent perspex / acrylic backing plate (resting on a sketch of the design, so I can see where I'm 'writing'); the hot glue should set in a minute or so, and I should be able to go letter-by-letter rather than have to build the whole sign in a single operation.
Then probably clamp another sheet of perspex over the design (think 'sandwich'; maybe put bolts through the corners, optionally use two bolts to connect the 12V), and use copper or aluminum tape around the edges to 'frame' the sign and to keep dust out. In theory, this gets me a transparent sign in a skinny frame.
Any better ideas, please?
I'm surprised they haven't added something like a rigid ABS channel that you could use a heat gun to soften and form to shape.
Blazer02LS they do have this you speak of in a larger size. We use it all the time in the sign business.
@@ricktennyson4809 Do you have Google keywords or a link for that, please?
So far, I've only found a guy using EL wire in heat-bent polycarbonate tube -- which looked kinda painful, although I suppose would work :)
Found Neon Techniques & Handling at the library - definitely more to it than the LED stuff ...
That brick is probably the most pointlessly expensive thing you can buy at the moment.
RIP $/£ exchange rate.
I'm sure that there are probably some people for whom money is not an issue when it comes to construction industry themed rectal pleasurement.
One month later ... rubber insert to a real jackhammer.
Thank for such a detailed and insightful description, it was exactly what I needed. Much appreciated !
Can you make a video on connecting multiple strips together and elaborate on how to connect them and with what? Thank you
Some of this stuff, has a cavity you can stuff magnet wire down to form it the way you want without having to hot glue it down to your perspex sheets or whatever.
There's definitely a little space / stretchability, but things are pretty tight in there (I'm looking at the same 'fake neon' that BC's demonstrating).
Which means I doubt I could push a wire that I could subsequently bend, more than 6in or so.
And I need to make words about 2ft long -- so let's hope the hot glue works, eh? I'll report back :-)
Those same keywords on aliexpress there is a seller with what appears to be this tape at $10US for 5 meters, although looks like it might not be the first-class quality ;-)
Shonky is fine at that price :)
While resistive losses in the busbars argue against powering a long strip from one end, which will also make the lights at the opposite end a bit dimmer, the unwanted dimming can be evened out perfectly by powering just one of the busbars _from each end._ With the strip rolled up, for example, power the positive busbar from the center, and power the negative busbar from the outer end.
We got some snow flake lights last year that used this neon led rope. it is amazing how even 100 yards out you can still tell what it os your looking at.
Looks great for R/C aircraft!
I feel like those would be really nice for headlight retrofits to add that modern light strip look that the fancy brands are using.
one drawback, the solder ends, and even after you repair solder, is difficult to get a good weld. the wires will jump off at the most importune times, like in the middle of installation.
Heatshrink sleeve and fill with glue?
You should do a review on EL wire / EL tape if you havent done already. Awesome stuff.
I have, including the chasing stuff.
I remember that brick, I'm glad it's served a different purpose to what the manufacturer probably thought people may have used it for given they make many insertable toys... :P
I do get the feeling people may insert it into orifices.
Given what I've seen of what people do with their other products, I wouldn't put it past 'em... :P
That is going to become super popular lighting for arcade machines, I predict.
I was thinking get a board with many nails on it and thread the led tape stuff around that to make a fancy design.
This would be great for geometric stuff, and if you didn't mind that the backing board was opaque.
I've been trying to figure out how to use penny nails or maybe dressmaking pins, to 'trap' the neon in place to write letters etc.
Except that I also want the background to be transparent, and I can't go pushing pins into perspex, glass, etc.! :-)
now i will have to get a peace to add to my led collection
Never seen your channel before but just subscribed, I've been doing car neon lighting for a while but always willing to learn more. Keep up the good work
it looks kinda delicious tbh
Pasta illuminata
It was nice to see that they'd sensibly used red LEDs as well...
They're phosphor based red LEDs. But good that they didn't just use white in all the colours.
The main question is can you eat it? Looks delicious .
*Stops video halfway through to order some...Damn you bigclive! My TH-cam night is getting expensive.
I love the Bad Dragon brick!
Make that brick glow. Stick some LEDs in it. So it'll be the shortest albeit T H I C C E S T LED neon light.
It'll be a very sad day when everyone gives up on making classic glass neon sign tubes. I may be getting old, but nothing like some pretty lights that you know it's a high voltage arc inside them. We've come a long way from lightnings in nature, to the same plasma channel contained harmlessly and peacefully inside a glass tube. We should never give up on that.
You should check out laser wire. Great for ultra thin glowing wire applications. Much stronger more flexible than EL wire.
Interesting pairing of side glow fiber optic and lasers. I wonder how linear the light is along the length.
@@bigclivedotcom I actually own some (Burningman :) and mine is about 5 feet and the light is pretty consistent. And I assume you can up the laser power the longer you go. It's really a special looking piece of tech. Not cheap though.
@@doodlesdeluxe Just for fun I've ordered a short length of side glow fibre and a 10mW fibre cable test unit.
@@bigclivedotcom Plase post a link for us
How much to make you build a house out of those wobbly blocks? I’d even be satisfied with a small shed.
Oh yes I'm going to get some, not sure where to put them but I must have some because it looks so neat and probably easy to manage unlike the terrible tape and it's terrible adhesive that just tends to stick for about a day and then collect a layer of fluff
Just recently went to the local recycling center and got a box with like a dozen or so 9/12V power supplies for a couple of euros and this would be a perfect use for them
Many thanks for sharing , just ordered 2M blue for my motorbike, will look superb !
Hi Clive, finally arrived, I was under the impression it had adhesive on the back, yet I can't see it !
" I love my brick....."
very interesting. Looking forward to future miniturization here equivalent to EL wire but hopefully more reliable.
EDIT:
A quick google and I've discovered "Side glow fiber optic" is a really cool search term, lots of stuff out there on ebay
Nothing compares to true glass neon tubes.
For many application neon is the only choice. But any sensible neon sign fabricator would give both options and offer LED crafted in the style of a traditional sign.
@@bigclivedotcom Cant argue with that! Thanks for replying
Silicon type Rubber ? Recon the UV would kill it or be ok in desert Sun ?
Great video.
squishing it flat ... that doesn't put too much stress on it does it? Could you glue it down like that, to make a full wall, maybe pass it through a diffuser for a light panel with minimal hotspots?
Video review of bad dragon stuff next?
I'd have a watch.
At least the new brick would be better for high voltage stuff 😂
maybe he should test insulators instance of the new brick?
Perhaps John Ward could perform a hi-pot test on one?
@Matt Quinn hi-pot = high voltage potential
@Matt Quinn You left no indication of that in your original comment and I assumed you were joking, but I thought I would add the definition for younger viewers than us. I'm really trying to picture if JW would be any different stoned, having consumed lots of pot with lots of high caliber nerds. The idea of JW testing a fetish product in such a manner does leave me laughing out loud.
For anybody not subscribed to John Ward's channel, here's a link: th-cam.com/channels/2uFFhnMKyF82UY2TbXRaNg.html He's a great chap!
Clive why don't they fit the LEDs strip on the bottom instead of the side or use LEDs that let the light out on the side. Love your work atb nick
Because it results in a series of bright points of light if it doesn't get bounced first.
Bouncing off the inside of the white channel material and then diffusing through the top evens out what would otherwise be quite "spotty" light (where you can see a bright-point for each LED). You can somewhat see that effect in the video but I am going to take Clive's word for it that it's not noticeable in person.
I wonder if a wireless powered version of this will be made i.e. powered by induction. Could even build in some intelligence with addressable LEDs for colour change and flashing. Wouldn’t be cheap if each LED had its own inductive pickup though.
Fascinating! I've been doing a lot of looking into various LED tape and kept seeing this neon style sets on Amazon for ludacris prices. Like $200 USD for 30ft. I do believe those sets were all A-RGBW, though. Still, there's no way they're THAT much more to manufacture.
I design competitive high school marching shows, and I REALLY want to incorporate some high intensity LED effects on props and maybe inside the color guard flag poles, which just happen to be the perfect diameter to fit 18650 batteries. 😁
I would be interested in hearing the best way to control a bunch of ARGB lights wirelessly. We only have about 2 minutes to get all our equipment setup. I haven't checked to see if wireless DMX is a thing, or if maybe there's some radio protocol that could be used. All fun stuff, I just don't have all the knowledge in that field.... yet.
dmx being rs485 you should be able to use lots of options to make it wireless..
Move, bitch, get out the way
Arduino and these?
www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/ArduinoWirelessShieldS2
I was NOT ready for the Bad Dragon brick reveal
I would like to know if this LED strip was suitable for automotive applications. Would be great for the customising industry. There are people modifying car lights with LED's already, most are using white strip behind a coloured lens. This could reverse that, which then adds a totally different affect.
Have you seen Aldi's laser 'Cat Annoyers' yet? About a tenner, and the idea seems interesting. Is this the sort of thing that might be of interest? It looks suspiciously to me like the laser machine that kills people over 30 in the movie 'Logan's Run'.
I'm okay with one-sided light output, but I hate that almost everything of this nature will not do X,Y,Z-coordinate bends. LED tape, no matter how configured, will only bend linearly. If I need this on compound curves, I'm screwed.
Looking forward to the ws2812b versions coming down in price.
"coming down in price" ooh, where have you seen it?
Nice video bro
Would you say this new strip would be decent at lighting a whole room if it was strung up around the entire interior perimeter of the room?
No. It's more of a feature light. LED rope or tape might work better.
What happened to your left ring finger? It almost looks like a bug bite
I've made "Neon" signs useing this stuff for a sign company I worked at and let me tell you what you spend more time with the mess of wires on the back then You will placeing the LED strip great idea but pain in the ass to wire every small piece
I'm surprised you didn't try to use a continuous strip of LED neon (although I think that will also be a PITA).
I'm hoping to do four graphics on a transparent backing, 12V powered at the (left- and right-) ends -- any recommendations, please?
Might you be making a 'how to' make a neon sign video? (I'd love to try it; I really like lighting ideas) :)
I find alot of the real cheap led tape runs and lasts long if you drop the voltage to 10~11 vs. 12
I usually drop the voltage too. Even a single diode in series with a short run has a good effect.
@@bigclivedotcom Yeah I did that in a few arcade machines :D
I want to eat that. Looks like candy lmao
Good video Big Clive
Right, I'm making myself a led neon sign this month
@@chunlingcui2851 fantastic. Thank you for recommendation. 😊
I think your videos must be a huge contributor to the success of the Chinese electronic industry and Poundland! Now I'm inspired to create a custom neon sign. I know sweet fanny about circuits but I think I could wire up several lengths of strip satisfactorily but, being me, I'd like to animate. What component or circuitry could I use for switching on and off, in order to create the illusion of movement? I'm thinking anything between 5hz and longer intervals.
I can't get over the fact that you are using a pink calculator, PINK! I think I need to see my therapist now! 😆
I've seen a bunch of halloween masks with look like a thinner version of this without the white part, is is the same stuff? It's pretty cool for having light strips all over your body, it even seems like it could be a fun kids project, if you have an adult hook up the battery packs after everyone is done with the cable
Sometimes side-glow fibre optic and sometimes electroluminescent wire.
It looks like funky electric liquorice!
I think neon lights are beautiful in signage etc. I missed my chance of seeing the neon lights of hong kong streets before LED's started to take them over... I would love it if these types of lights would become more common :)
Back in 1971 when my son came into the world, I was, at the time stationed at Camp Haskins in Vietnam. I had to re-enlist for a year and extend my tour of duty in Vietnam for 3 months so I could take a 30 day leave to be present for his birth. This was our first child, it was important to me to be there. So it was, that after setting in an airbase waiting center we were told that the runway was shut down because of the crash of a Phantom Jet who returned from North Vietnam all shot up, and that we would either have to wait up to a week for repairs, or foot our own bill to fly from Tokyo to LA. Well I had a good bunch of cash on me, so I joined with a couple of other GI'S who were making their way home for some reason or another, and we hired a Taxi to take us from that airbase to Tokyo International Airport. Man what a ride, that dude had to get us there in a specific time to make our flight and he did everything in the book to do it, up on sidewalks around buses that were loading and unloading, but we got to see Tokyo at night, and the NEON was wonderful. I had only seen a few bar signs before, being from a very small town, so it was amazing to me, I still see those lights flash by even now 45 years later in my dreams. It was quite a trip to say the least!
That is an interesting product! I can see that so usefull for lots of stuff, including signs.
How much light do these actually put off?
I'd like to use them in a PC case, standard LED strips are so ugly if you can see the diodes themselves but these would be much more appealing to the eye to see.
I was thinking i saw this already . Oh yes on patreon .
Can't wait to see addressable led neon tape!
Like this, maybe? www.gree-leds.com/led-neon-tape/12v-digital-led-neon-tube.html
@@theskett Wow, thanks for letting me know!
Well, I just searched in AliExpress to see if there's something like this and Jesus it's cheap. 3'07€/5m if you get only the strip, around 4'2€~4'4€ if you get an adapter from 12v or 2×AA batteries.
Please show us your search terms
*I have not looked for it*
It would be cool if they had a WS2812-B style of these with a milky white "silicone" color stuff around it. It would be perfect for my arduino OBD-2 scanner project i had to make since BMW decided it was okay to not put the coolant/oil temperatures anywhere in my 2011 mini cooper's computer... I've made it into a cool addition to my car which has some LED's around the giant speedo in the middle, diffused by some milky wire wrap i found at home depot, synced up (roughly) with my tachometer, even flashing red when i red line. This stuff would look way better.