And for the nutsacks out there posting "WELL ACTUALLY MY KICKSTARTER VERSION HAS A SOLO MODE AND A SCORE TRACK< STOP LYING ABOUT THE GAME". This is the retail version, i review what they put in front of me. Not whatever extra crap you have and can brag about. I'm not lying about those things not existing, they are just ARE NOT IN THE GAME I REVIEWED. You utter and total planks.
Mosaic is so close to being perfect, but just a few things as mentioned in the video. That one game i played the trader and the person to my right also decided they wanted in on being a trader really sucked. As he always got the manufactory towns and techs just before me, and I had to pivot mid game to a suboptimal strategy. The tyranny of the player playing just before you in an action selection game like this can unravel the fun.
Othre complains that I have heard are that the tax action is overpowered and that there is some luck in the order that the technologies appear. Did you experience that? I like the presentation of the game but I think I will stick with civ new dawn for now.
Hi there! Thank you for this review, which convinced me going after a used copy on Vinted. Got the standard version (the seller printed the official solo mode and included in the box) for 30 euros circa. Can't wait to play it. Some Italian reviewers defined Mosaic 'terrible' but they even bashed Tapestry. Actually, from your description I found out this is the perfect Civ game for me :) Thank you once again! :)
I find it mildly interesting how much love this is getting partly based on how quick it plays for a civ game meanwhile for the same weight, arguably quicker, and roughly same BGG rating(7.3/7.7) The Golden Ages felt like it got so little love in retrospect. I bet any lifting of a finger in terms of better production on it, and it would have gotten a lot more love.
So thankful I have the KS edition because having that score track is nice and so far I have only played the game solo. I really, really hope they decide to release a small expansion that includes both in the future for those with the retail edition. The solo game is really enjoyable!
I put the trade tokens in a bag and randomly place them out face up so I do not have to go back and flip them over later. Cuts out a nice chunk of setup time.
I cant get over the fact they ommitted the SCORE TRACK in the retail edition. I only just found out the KS version has a score track and I am beyond boggled at that.
Great review and lovely to have you back: I hope you're well! Loved the review, just one thing: your comment at the end 'actually better without the minis' I think you say, goes unexplained. If you have a moment, could you elaborate?
The game doesn't need them, and the deluxe version just looks super cluttered and messy on the table. I check out a friends deluxe and I would legit not use the models. And im a model painting guy. They game just doesn't suit it. Oh, and you would need WAY more storage space for all the bits on the table side as well. I'd like the wonder models, that's about it
Great review. I like Mosaic a lot and it has been a hit with my group. It is an evolution of Forbidden's Raccoon Tycoon / Lizard Wizard in terms of its structure. I like the timing of it and have played around half a dozen games. That makes it more of a classic euro rather than a typical 4x game. That will be a turn off for some. I think it hits the sweet spot and I like it more than Civ:A New Dawn because it doesn't need the xpac to make it great. That said, all three of the games mentioned are great, for different reasons.
I really regret getting the big box version of this game. The minis desperately need a wash in order for the details to pop and make them usable (Although this is super easy to do with speedpaints. Just spray white and slap on those speedpaints, no need to bother with zenithal or anything). On the plus side (although a further vote against the deluxe edition), the cardboard quality in this game is excellent so you really won't feel bad playing with the cardboard tokens. The game itself is pretty fun but I feel like it's probably a bit overhyped. That said, I haven't played it a ton.
We enjoyed our recent first play of MOSAIC, but the set up and final scoring were dampeners on an otherwise fine game. I do wonder if the set collection will just turn most games into Technology races to make sure you don't miss out on those victory tiles.
It is significantly more fun than through the ages, which is one of the most torturous games i've ever played in person. So very very slow. (great app game, terrible board game)
This game looks interesting. But I personally prefer the lighter, cheaper, and quicker Age of Civilization for civilization game. But that’s because I haven’t been in the hobby for a long time.
How many times did you rewind to see the message that flashed for .2 seconds? Me... 8. (I had to show it down to .5 speed just to pause at the right time.)
My big dislike is the troops, they’re quite terrible when cities also act as Strength in attacks and can’t be removed. Also, I’ve played a game where no empire scoring cards were revealed before game end and thus also make troops doubly terrible.
I was interested in this until I found out they left stuff out of the retail version. That's just a scumbag move. Having premium components is one thing, but leaving out complete gameplay elements, that could've very easily been put in the box, is ridiculous.
And for the nutsacks out there posting "WELL ACTUALLY MY KICKSTARTER VERSION HAS A SOLO MODE AND A SCORE TRACK< STOP LYING ABOUT THE GAME".
This is the retail version, i review what they put in front of me. Not whatever extra crap you have and can brag about. I'm not lying about those things not existing, they are just ARE NOT IN THE GAME I REVIEWED. You utter and total planks.
PS, calling me a liar on my channel over stuff like this gets you banned.
Good man. Don’t let the trolls bring you down
Mosaic is so close to being perfect, but just a few things as mentioned in the video. That one game i played the trader and the person to my right also decided they wanted in on being a trader really sucked. As he always got the manufactory towns and techs just before me, and I had to pivot mid game to a suboptimal strategy. The tyranny of the player playing just before you in an action selection game like this can unravel the fun.
Honestly feel like a deal breaker for me. I know someone who owns it anyway.
Would that problem be fixed if the last player to start a golden age becomes the starting player? Seems like an easy and thematic solution.
@@Nozdormu1982 it has more to do with your position in the que, so instead I would say a golden age rotates the turn order ;)
Othre complains that I have heard are that the tax action is overpowered and that there is some luck in the order that the technologies appear. Did you experience that? I like the presentation of the game but I think I will stick with civ new dawn for now.
Hi there! Thank you for this review, which convinced me going after a used copy on Vinted. Got the standard version (the seller printed the official solo mode and included in the box) for 30 euros circa. Can't wait to play it. Some Italian reviewers defined Mosaic 'terrible' but they even bashed Tapestry. Actually, from your description I found out this is the perfect Civ game for me :) Thank you once again! :)
I find it mildly interesting how much love this is getting partly based on how quick it plays for a civ game meanwhile for the same weight, arguably quicker, and roughly same BGG rating(7.3/7.7) The Golden Ages felt like it got so little love in retrospect. I bet any lifting of a finger in terms of better production on it, and it would have gotten a lot more love.
So thankful I have the KS edition because having that score track is nice and so far I have only played the game solo. I really, really hope they decide to release a small expansion that includes both in the future for those with the retail edition. The solo game is really enjoyable!
That art is really rough, glad you recommended New Dawn!
I put the trade tokens in a bag and randomly place them out face up so I do not have to go back and flip them over later. Cuts out a nice chunk of setup time.
Yeah, we started doing that too. Still a bit of a chore. Our main way now is have all 4-5 players do it
Great game - very smooth- played at 6 players and it was long but kept everyone engaged due to the speed of turns.
I just can't get over the fact that they omitted the solo mode in the retail edition.
I cant get over the fact they ommitted the SCORE TRACK in the retail edition. I only just found out the KS version has a score track and I am beyond boggled at that.
@@3MBG Agreed. Tried this at a con with the retail copy and the entire table was aghast. Nobody would rate it as 5 stars - and we liked it.
No gold medal for this one from me either. The lack of a score track factored into that
Great review and lovely to have you back: I hope you're well! Loved the review, just one thing: your comment at the end 'actually better without the minis' I think you say, goes unexplained. If you have a moment, could you elaborate?
The game doesn't need them, and the deluxe version just looks super cluttered and messy on the table. I check out a friends deluxe and I would legit not use the models. And im a model painting guy. They game just doesn't suit it. Oh, and you would need WAY more storage space for all the bits on the table side as well.
I'd like the wonder models, that's about it
Great review. I like Mosaic a lot and it has been a hit with my group. It is an evolution of Forbidden's Raccoon Tycoon / Lizard Wizard in terms of its structure. I like the timing of it and have played around half a dozen games. That makes it more of a classic euro rather than a typical 4x game.
That will be a turn off for some. I think it hits the sweet spot and I like it more than Civ:A New Dawn because it doesn't need the xpac to make it great. That said, all three of the games mentioned are great, for different reasons.
Just curious have you tried clash of cultures, specifically the monumental edition with the different leaders? That’s a great civ game!
No, and i tried bidding on it in a recent math trade as others have mentioned it here. Missed out on it though
Love that game! One of my favorites
I really regret getting the big box version of this game. The minis desperately need a wash in order for the details to pop and make them usable (Although this is super easy to do with speedpaints. Just spray white and slap on those speedpaints, no need to bother with zenithal or anything).
On the plus side (although a further vote against the deluxe edition), the cardboard quality in this game is excellent so you really won't feel bad playing with the cardboard tokens.
The game itself is pretty fun but I feel like it's probably a bit overhyped. That said, I haven't played it a ton.
Game looks great. I'm torn between this and Clash of Cultures Monumental Edition....
Have you tried Clash of Cultures? If so, what do you think of it?
Nope, i think i keep blanking that one because it sounds like a terrible phone app name though.
🤣🤣 Well, if you can ever get past that (😂) and have a chance to play it, I look forward to hearing what you think of it.
We enjoyed our recent first play of MOSAIC, but the set up and final scoring were dampeners on an otherwise fine game.
I do wonder if the set collection will just turn most games into Technology races to make sure you don't miss out on those victory tiles.
I also wonder that same thing
Having played the KS edition with a friend, I have to agree that the minis make it look worse :)
Great review Jarrod! What would you say is your favorite CIV game? Thx!
Civilization a new dawn, but i think mosaic may rise in my estimation over time. If i get over the niggles i have with it
This sounds like a faster Through the Ages game? Every turn there is fast, but it can take multiple turns to do anything which is less enjoyable.
It is significantly more fun than through the ages, which is one of the most torturous games i've ever played in person. So very very slow. (great app game, terrible board game)
Somehow this game and its mechanics remind me a bit of Concordia.
Its in the mediterranean and set a similar timeframe , but asides from that not much in common
This game looks interesting. But I personally prefer the lighter, cheaper, and quicker Age of Civilization for civilization game. But that’s because I haven’t been in the hobby for a long time.
How many times did you rewind to see the message that flashed for .2 seconds? Me... 8. (I had to show it down to .5 speed just to pause at the right time.)
the comment on minatures at the end peeked my interest to go look to see if I wanted to pick it up ... I had decided no until that comment.
They really just get in the way to be honest. I love painting up games, but the mosiac minis just seem like bloat.
My big dislike is the troops, they’re quite terrible when cities also act as Strength in attacks and can’t be removed. Also, I’ve played a game where no empire scoring cards were revealed before game end and thus also make troops doubly terrible.
Damn, zero scoring cards seems bizarre. I can see it happening but that must have been an odd game
@@3MBG it was quite odd! I agree about the seating placement and the switching strategies difficulties.
I was interested in this until I found out they left stuff out of the retail version. That's just a scumbag move. Having premium components is one thing, but leaving out complete gameplay elements, that could've very easily been put in the box, is ridiculous.
The solo mode? I cant think of what else was left out, but i thought that was a very odd choice
Why is it better without the minis?
It's just clutter for this particular game. Basic cardboard tokens do just as well and take up 1/4 space on the table side
The board looks like a colour blind test.
So the name is a metaphor?
Yeah, and also a reference to the board and set collection system i reckon
Meh
Boy that’s ugly
The board?
@@3MBG and the cards