This guys a nut..I love my 300 blackout...and I load my own rounds and I get all my brass from guys like him when they leave the brass at the range. He's a fool
I know isn't it nice. I have probably 5k plus brass from policing brass at the rang. Not all are usable but still more then 2/3 are and that is easyest way to get 300 bo brass for reloading. I only have the components to make 2k rounds but brass is brass lol.
Exactly 💯. I actually had a more reliable source of 300blk at a reasonable price in the middle of the pandemic. Only hassle was I could only buy 2 cases at a time per day. A few times I got away with catching a shift change so they sold to me twice in one day
I hate when people get on social media and try to tell you would you should and shouldn't have. You buy what you like and love. I'm not big fan of 300 and short barrel, but everyone have they own opinion on what they want. People in gun stores do me the same way, this what you need and this what you should get. Nall I'm go get whatever the hell I want
@@CombatArtTraining I don't live near Google. You specifically said "where can you go rn, near you..." And yeah, I can find anything online if I'm ready to pay an inflated price... including .300 blackout.
If people would just get pass the ( I can't do it /it's to hard ) I have all the parts need to reload 5.56 and 300 black out for way less then store ammonia right now
@@LIONTAMER3DWell here we are in 2024 and guess which one of those cartridges is more prevalent due to import bans? They’re pretty much the same price now.
I dont think anyone is suggesting that 300aac is a replacement for 5.56. They do different things. They’re better at different things. 5.56 is probably the more flexible cartridge, meaning it will do more things better than the 300aac. That being said, 300aac is absolutely better than 5.56 at some things. This is undeniable, and anyone who tries to argue the point is just plain wrong. If you want the best bang for your buck in terms of flexibility and bulk ammo storage, 5.56 is the way to go, and it is probably the better cartridge to start your journey with and to learn with. A direct competitor to this argument for the 5.56 is certainly 7.62x39. Once you’ve got some ammo stored away and know what you’re doing with your carbine, now you can start looking into different cartridges that might give you an edge in certain situations. Notice that I didn’t say you should get rid of your 5.56 or 7.62x39. The argument “if there’s still a threat, just shoot it more until it isnt a threat” is a straw man argument. Using that logic, we should all be carrying .22lr pistols. The ammo is far cheaper and more widely available, especially now. The cartridge is far more easily controllable compared with larger calibers. If you shoot a threat with it, there’s a chance it’ll make them stop. And if they don’t, you just shoot them until they do. So why aren’t we all carrying .22lr? Because it is less effective per shot than pretty much ANY larger caliber. Lets be realistic here. Tired of people framing information in a way so as to to back up their own opinions rather than discussing the facts objectively and with logic and reason.
@@nicholasjerkins7393 hitting the target is the easy part. Not getting shot, not shooting the wrong person, not letting the threat have an advantage, not letting the threat hurt anyone at all, being able to save a life with medical training, and so on. It's not just about hittingg the target. Go train with someone.
Dude, it's task and purpose. The job is different. Subsonic rifle rounds for inside the house will most quickly incapacitate someone who needs to be done while not deafening my family.
I don't want anyone to go deaf, I want everyone capable of protecting themselves and those they care about because they put their time, money, and energy into training and practice instead of gear they don't need.
@Furfur Gaahl .556 indoors will hurt your hearing badly. 300 blackout subsonic rounds with a suppressor, hell even super sonic with a suppressor is way better....556 just doesn’t suppress well enough as it moves too fast.
@@LIONTAMER3D 9x39 would probably be better for suppressibility (I'm not able to say that for sure since I haven't tested that) but might not be widely available
@@mixedmarksman5873 and 300 is at 55-65c 🤯 for brass cased ammo lolol I’ll keep my 300 blk and thousands of hoarded rounds and keep training every week like clock work I’m not worried about a shortage because I budget for this shit
@@mixedmarksman5873 I Blow through a couple hundred round 2 times a week. i started reloading and bought alot of my equipment from hornady, with their get loaded promotion i got 1500 free bullets to load. and i will probably be getting a couple hundred more as i need to buy more dies. bought a couple thousand once fired brass. and cost per round untill the hornady free bullets are gone is just under 30 cents
@@italianrelic who cares, he's right about 300ACC. You're almost outing yourself as clueless if you buy that vs 7.62x39. Subsonic 7.62x39 is a thing, the rounds are 1/5th the price, and you can find them anywhere.
@@skilledtradesscotty4896 Not anymore at least. Used to be able to find S&B green box for $11 for supers, $13 for subsonic. That’s when I did most of my stocking.
I love my 300, got about 5600 rounds stocked but I live in the hills of WV and use mine for hunting deer and bear. Round does great. Right now ammo sucks at the price but thats all ammo in general. Election and panic buying caused this spike.
@@CombatArtTraining Taking a Northeastern sized deer is just about the same as taking out combatants. Is this channel more about shooting steel and paper?
how does the 300 blackout do on the bear, can it take a bear in one shot? im just curious, ive seen people hunting with it on TH-cam, but not as often. i use a 30.06 for hunting, its definitely over kill, but id rather have overkill than underkill. im my neck of the woods where i hunt, its all open fields (eastern Washington), so 100-200 yard shots.
I know a few that have 1000 rounds of 300 black out. It’s easy to reload and cheaper then to buy it new. I’m glad i bought ammo before this ammo shortage.
Wtf is this guy talking about? Shop up the road where i live keeps plenty of 300 rounds in stock.. I'll agree they're a little expensive but well worth the money.. Furthermore my 7.5 inch is perfect for clearing rooms and will still get down range.. Topped off with the msr dot, magnifier, and flip up sights.. 400 yards with your ak? I've seen people ringing steel at 6-700 yrds with the 7.5 300.. GTFOH
@@CombatArtTraining rude as hell you say this to everyone and for what? Cause he said he bought some ammo 😂 but hurt cause people disagree with your stupid video 😳 wow.
I have a total of five 300 blackouts. Three ar pistols, an ar rifle, and a bolt action. I love the round! But I also agree with you. The ENTIRE point of 300 blackout is to run it subsonic with a suppressor. It’s not cheap, but it is quiet as hell and defeats body armor. Plus it works with AR’s and the only difference is the barrel. If you only have the money for a couple AR’s just stick to 5.56. If you have the cash get a 300 blackout with subsonic ammo and a suppressor.
You are an idiot. I didn't say you shouldn't have it or that it's a bad thing. I said it's a waste if you don't have training. If you don't have training you are a walking pile of free gear.
@@CombatArtTrainingI guess you’re someone that thinks that without your “class,” all gun owners are unworthy of gun ownership. I’ve been through several “classes” and all but a few were a waste of time and effort.
Nobody but it! Seriously! Dont do it! There is tons of ammo on the shelves because it sucks so bad. In fact if you have any send it to me to be discarded immediately!
You do realize the more popular .300 blackout becomes manufacturers are more likely to ramp up production of the round making cheaper and easier to find..
I use and have been using .300BO in an 8.5" AR for deer hunting in closer/brushier areas. Not the best, but put one together probably 2013ish? I run it suppressed and have taken a bunch of deer with it sub-100 yards. Using factory ammo, both subsonic and supersonic, it's been great. I'm also a reloader with components to reload. To echo your points, now is definitely not the time to get into a caliber like this. For limited plinking and some hunting, it's a decent round, but doesn't really excel at any one thing and it's still way more pricey than comparable and better calibers.
@Christian Grest--Being that you're an owner of the 300 BO I really appreciate your honesty. Regardless of weapon or caliber there's a lot of people who refuse to admit any down side to owning the weapon they are obsessed with. The fact is there is no weapon or caliber that doesn't have a downside to owning it. Example: I bought a Ruger LC9 in 2012 for my CC weapon. Great pistol. I've had no issues with it. Accurate, comfortable to carry and it finally jammed after running just over 1000 rounds through it, including nasty dirty steel case ammo. It will eat anything I load in it. BUT as much as I love my LC9 it has a problem, the trigger pull is way too long. I've gotten used to it after 8+ years but it still sucks. Galloway has a kit to shorten the pull and Im thinkin about it. But may buy a new LC9 since theyre striker fire now.😁. Im a Ruger fan because Ive never had any issues with them. Even had a 1992 P85 9mm that was great to shoot and never had any problems with jamming. Id like to try other pistols like Springfield or Glock but past experience leads me to Ruger. I do have rock island 1911 but it was given to me. Really like it too and also no problems except for shooting cost and getting used to breaking down a 1911. Big 'ol spring was a bit of an issue at first. Sorry everybody, for the rambling comment.
@@jamesnewton485 thanks for sharing your experiences. For sure, every caliber/firearm doesn’t do everything perfectly, otherwise we’d have just one caliber and one firearm 😃. We’re also a Ruger fan here in this house. Wife has an old P89 that’s always run 100%. It’s a tank, but a great pistol. I’ve had good luck and bad luck with different firearms over the years. I’m a big fan of building Polymer80 pistols....and have some videos over on my TH-cam channel with different types of firearms projects I’ve gotten in to. Anyways, nothing is perfect... only a blind person would say it is.
Where can you buy 1k 350 Legends, 450 Bushmaster, 45-70 gov, 458 socom, 444 marlin, 50 beowulf or 6.5 Grendel... where can you buy anything at a decent price now.. you don’t knock a caliber because you don’t see it on the shelf, of thats the case people would say “don’t buy a gun because there’s no ammo”
@@CombatArtTraining "A lot of new shooters and a lot of dudes that own a lot of guns already....basically it's a waste of time." Idk. Sounds like you were speaking to more than new shooters. I mean, if that was your point why not just say in general stop buying more guns until you're decently trained on one.
I think 300blk is the best round for short barreled AR platforms. But I'd say that if your not already in to 300blk it's not really something to get into right now unless your willing to spend some money. Especially If it's your first rifle caliber gun.
Our local, in-town, ammo factory is now producing .300 AAC Blackout. Not saying you're wrong, but it isn't necessarily correct for everyone. I'm sticking with 5.56x45 myself. Until I get the money to switch to .308 that is.
@@CombatArtTraining are you promoting training classes? .....yes you are! There is no doubt training is good but come in bro. You can learn and practice on your own as well. You can watch and read about tactics and training techniques. Is it better to have someone observe and correct your bad habits, yes. You are going to far with this.
First off, I don’t need to hand my friends anything, we are all well equipped. Secondly, everyone should have a suppressor, they are just smart pieces of equipment. Thirdly, math doesn’t lie!
to be fair the reason its good, is because in home defense when you dont have ear protection having quiet ammo and a quiet gun is a blessing, moreover if you're using it for home defense especially if you are inexperienced the shorter length will help you to not get caught up on things. the fact of the matter is that for a lot of people .300 blk is a useful and viable answer to home defense, and as far as ammo goes, chances are very high that you will use less that a magazeen so if you're keeping say 90 rounds for home defense and buying some whenever you want to practice at the range that is perfectly fine. it may not be the be all end all for societal collapse but in its niche it does a very good job and has features that make it beneficial both to experienced individuals and newcomers alike.
yup, and the likelihood of actually being in the situation needing to do this is few and far between in life. People like the speculate all day long about things that will never ever happen. Buy what you want, build what you want and enjoy life.
I love 300blk, building my 10.5 pistol and going hunting with it next season. The more people that use the round as it becomes more popular- the cheaper ammo will get.
Yeah dude it's a great round. All I'm saying in the video is that people buy lots of guns and expensive ammo and should have gone and taken some classes instead.
@@CombatArtTraining I made a rookie mistake with my first Blkout upper, ordered a 16" barrel with a carbine length gas system... doesn't cycle subs very well 😕 but it's gotten me more into the mods that can be done with the AR platform
I'm saying you're better off with a lot of ammo in a common caliber and taking a ton of training classes. I don't believe in any gun laws including background checks.
Been on the 300 Blk Train for a few years now. He was talking about me. (LOL) Yep, had it built, bought the dies, primers, and powder. And yes, waited forever for the CAN. I picked up everyone's brass at the range, and thanked them very much. Have been reloading over 40 years, so my loads work, Have some factory 300, but mine shoots better. Sitting on over 800 rounds. Oh, did I mention I have two of them. The pistol is a house gun, and the rifle kills hogs.
Don't know about y'all, but for home defense, I can finally convert and use all this worthless LC 556 brass I have lying around. And because suppressed 300blk runs at lower pressures, you can reload LC brass a Bazillion times compared to 556 and 308. This guy looks like he needs his Double Skinny Latte.
I would not mess with 300AAC unless you reload and its still not cheap by any means. According to this video you should just shoot .22lr, its like 3 cents a round
No. Way. I can swing 25 a box right now and have about 1500 rounds. Literally it’s the only round I use that was never, not once, over the last year where I go to buy my 300.
@@ShaneClark121 i cast and powder coat wheel weights and my price per round the last time i bought primers and powder was around 7-8 cent per 300 blackout.
I've only owned my .300 Blackout upper for almost nine months and I'm still getting used to it. And I don't even shoot it with a suppressor anyway. All I need for mine is a flash hider and some 110 grain ammo... but I'll use a heavier grain if it's my only option in the case of WW3 has started, or the apocalypse is in full swing.
300 BO suppressed is still my fav AR caliber/platform. Fun to shoot. Good thump. Way more pleasant shooting than supersonic 5.56 suppressed. I have a suppressed AK pistol and i still am better and faster with my 300 because im just more familiar with the AR platform period. Its expensive now. But back when we were at 42 cents a round it was a good tradeoff vs expense caliber. My 300BO is my kitchen sink and whats next to my bed. Quetier that supersonic 5.56 and the short barrel matters. If you can effectively clear rooms with an M16 sized rifle, you would do it even better with an SBR. Thats just physics. I wouldnt get into the caliber now. But once the prices of ammo hopefully go down. You can bet ill be grabbing a couple cases.
Plus, IMHO if your limiting yourself to just one cartdridge your missing the main benefit of the ar platform. Hell have an upper in 556,300,6.5,9mm, and a 22lr conversion. It's a swiss army knife.
The 300 BLK is more versatile than a 5.56 if you use it for other things than just tactical use. It is extremely quiet with a suppressor. When you handload, you can make a shitload of ammo, and its cheaper than buying it, so his analogy is limited. Having a shorter barrel helps with clearing rooms if its in tight spaces, but yeah, practicing the artform is more important.
My uncle is a textbook example of what you're talking about. $6k+ invested in two suppressed PDW's, had them for ~2 years and shot them maybe four times. Lives 15min from the range but never goes bc he has so little .300 ammo. Has ~5k rounds of 5.56 but never uses it bc it's ballistically inferior and a waste of time. He doesn't have more than a few boxes of any given type of .300, so his zero is constantly shifting due to changing ammo types every mag, and he has no idea what is/isn't reliable. If you have a shitload of money to blow or all of the reloading components in hand, .300blk is probably great. Otherwise you're just going to end up training 1/2 as often (or 1/3 with subs) for a marginal increase in ballistics.
@@toddparsons2980 that was his point in making his video: 300 acc is functionally identical to 7.62x39 but for its silencing properties, which he doesn't put a lot of stock in & neither do I. Also, sub-sonic 7.62x39 is a thing...
"Don't buy it cause ammo is hard to find and it's expensive to have a suppressor." Good thing the other calibers don't have the same issue. Oh wait....
@@CombatArtTraining your points are more of an argument to reload and less of an argument to avoid the caliber. All your arguments would have applied to 9mm and 5.56 at the time you posted, so it's kind of a strawman considering how new the caliber still is. I think it's only a matter of time before 300BLK barrels and uppers are selling as commonly as .223/5.56. Especially with Form 4s going electronic and suppressor wait times targeted at 90 days max.
@@jaredcrowley5666 my argument is to buy something common and take training and have a ton of ammo for training classes and practice. Reloading is a second job and not what you should do. 300 blackout will never be as common as standard rounds used by NATO.
300aac can be reloaded aswell, if you’re a hand loader post SHTF it’s amazing cause it uses regular .30 cal projectiles and LESS powder to be sub sonic. It’s kind of a buy once cry once. .30 cal is the most common reloading caliber in the US. (.30-30, .308, .30-06, .300prc, .300winmag, etc) Great points tho, I’d say do your 300aac PDW last once you’ve already got your 5.56 kit and training done. 300aac shouldn’t be you’re primary go to, it’s a niche cartridge with niche purposes. There’s no such thing as a do all rifle. Also once 300aac becomes as popular as 5.56 it’ll be as cheap.
This is hilarious. I shoot 556 but I reload it in 300 and 556. I like 125gr supersonic because I can load it up to be better than AK with sub moa groups...
@@richardmcdonald4190 Yep, Speer TNT 125gr with 19.3gr lil gun equals better AK for 35 cents a round. Unfortunately, finding small rifle primers is the big conundrum these days...
@@nicholastetrault7492 I'm locked into H110 at 18 grains. The accuracy load is supposed to be 17.6-.8 with that powder, but I set my RCBS up to throw 18. Yep, I'm down to shooting 20 or so rounds per range trip, due to primers. I'm splitting what I have left between my 300 and my new 6.5 Grendel SPR. My AR10 likes the 125's also, and I have more LRP's than SRP's. I hope to shoot through the shortage, but the 300 keeps saying, "Just one More."
@@richardmcdonald4190 I have about 6000 primers and 4k loaded up but the new administration is playing a dangerous game and it bothers me to have a finite amount of anything freedom related.
@@nicholastetrault7492 You're luck!! I only have 400 SRP's , with about 7-800 Blackouts loaded. I'm fat on 223, but not in the 4K quantities. If I had only known. Spoke to a dealer in Ga. and he was asking $300.00 for a case that use to cost less than $50.00 retail at Bass Pro. One rip-off shop down here is asking $60.00 for 20 rounds of 300. KMA on that one!
Umm comprising, get an ar pistol chambered in 7.62×39 boom lol yes it's not about the round it's about being able to use same lower and mags for 2 calibers it's always been that. Its why the round was developed in the first place for the military. And its always going to be more expensive then the others cause its a speciality round not a surplus round, moral of the story buy what you want , train with What you have and let's fight against communism side by side. 👍
If Biden stops imports then 7.62x39 will go up in price more .And it will take time for the USA manufacturers to catch up. Where European companies are at. And will not be cheep as the steel case is now. 300 blackout is a USA round and all the US companies already make it. So people have a 30 caliber AR platform ready to go. I have both and I like both rounds.
How many thousand round cases at the local gun store? If everyone came out to buy ammo, would there be any left? Again I'm talking to people who need training, they should not be buying a fancy caliber. A full load out at a gun store is nothing, they service hundreds to thousands of people.
Somebody just tell me where the primers are? I'm spoiled, and have about 100 rounds of factory 300 black, I bought 4 years ago. I'd rather roll my own.
I’ll agree mostly. If you don’t reload don’t get into 300 blk. If you do then have at it. You can reload it super cheap if you put the time in👍. Also I live in Illinois and can’t have a suppressor at all and it’s still worth it to run subs sometimes....and it makes me feel cool😎
Smiling. I have roughly 3k 300AAC supersonic. 10k 223 5k 7.62x39(mostly brass German manufactured) 4k 6.5Grendel(half steel, half custom brass with varmint projectiles) Not even fond of 300. But I can toss an upper in the bag with a 223 and do different things.
@@cfnaround1585 oh look a channel with no videos is telling me how I won't grow as a channel. Want to know something funny? This video has more dislikes than your channel has subscribers, this video brings me more subscribers everyday, that's one video. You go into other videos and trash talk because you have nothing to offer. Putting negative energy into the world won't make your life suck less, so how about you go do something productive.
@@CombatArtTraining you don’t know me man, you’re ego is hurt and I get that, but you jumped to conclusions about a joke comment. You see a clean channel and assume I have nothing, if you want to have a dick measuring contest we could. Man, I’ve grown 3 successful businesses and run social media for one of them. You’re ready to trash talk with one comment you don’t like, What I said definitely struck a cord. It’s called early adopters, there will always be early adopters. Those people just get it, but if you want to grow your channel and be better I assure you, I could definitely help your channel grow, but your attitude sucks too much to know how to handle your critics. Its either too much narcissism or too much ego attachment to your brand. Don’t take it personal, just make it better. You would be better if you had a better attitude. I’m not here to entertain you, you’re here to entertain us, don’t forget that
I keep a thousand rounds on tap and I find it relatively easy though yeah it's pricy. I like the specialty ammo really. Got a setup that shoots subs and supers just fine. Good accuracy out to 100. I like it cause the S&B subs wreck soft armor like you're not wearing it and it won't deafen the Mrs. Solid copper 300 blackout is just obscenely potent even in super short barrels still in the 1900 fps range.
@@CombatArtTrainingI doubt anyone watching this channel is kicking in doors either. So by that logic they shouldn't need .223/5.56 ammo since it is a military round.
@@TheDuppyman the logic is that having a super quiet, hard to find in bulk, and expensive round is unnecessary. If you paid attention you would have seen that was what I was saying.
@@CombatArtTraining everything is super hard and expensive right now. When walmart use to sell rifle ammo and I could walk into one and buy it 300 blk I would say it's main stream. Expensive is relative, and the 300 blk is more versatile and better at bucking the wind that 5.55.
I definitely get what your saying 99.9 percent of people need to spend less money on gear and more on training. It's the person that wins a gunfight not the gun. I will say this though I didn't get into guns to save money or because it's an economical hobby lol. Right now 300 is about 60 cents a round for supers. I carry a 9 in 300 with a law folder as my truck gun with usually 6 mags. Folded it can fit in a laptop case. I can carry it into stores, restaurants, hotels without a second look and still have 1200 foot pounds energy at the muzzle, right on par with a full size 5.56. it wouldn't be a good cal. For a shtf scenario but it has it's purpose imo. Just another tool in the box. Anyways appreciate the video and God bless.
And when everyone goes and buys up all the ammo what are manufacturers going to put back on the shelves first? What round are the people around you most likely going to be using? And how many training classes have you taken with a 300 blackout rifle?
Me watching this while my 300BO rifle and 10.5 pistol 300bo sit in the safe cuz I have no ammo lol and still looking online for the 7.5 300 bo pistol lol great video bro
If I was a FNG, and asked someone, My first AR would be a 300 Blk, 10.5 inch Pistol and the next one, an 18 inch 6.5 Grendel SPR. Those two kill quick and shoot far.
Yeah because people buy fancy gear and don't take training. You need training and thousands of rounds to practice what you learned. I don't think we should even have background checks to buy guns and we should be able to own whatever we want including nuclear weapons. Now tell me, what training classes have you taken in the last two years?
Some reverse psychology bullshit. U just want more ammo for yourself Hahahaha. But for real, yeah if you like to shoot a lot, blackout ain’t for you (unless you’re rich). No cartridge is affordable right now though. But blackout always costs more.
First video I’ve seen of yours. Actually watching after just making a purchase on a .300 AAC Pistol and this was the first video I found when looking for suggested ammo lol. I bought it just cause I wanted it, didn’t have a AR Pistol and 5.56 is less effective from a short barrel. I don’t get the few comments trashing you. I thought you articulated your point well and it was a coherent argument. Over the last year and a half my personal philosophy has rapidly become “own every caliber that you can and all the ammo you can and you’ll never not have something to shoot when the wolf comes to the door.” I was exclusively 5.56/.30-30/.30-06/.45ACP/.357 Mag guy before covid. Since then I’ve expanded to owning pistols and rifles chambered in 9mm, .40S&W, .300AAC, 7.62x39mm, .25-06 and maybe a few more. I found this to be a good way to diversify in case any one type of ammo experiences a shortage. That said, you could make an argument that you can simply own 5.56 and 9mm (as an example) and buy every round you can find and store it. That is one feasible way to go. But I have found it useful and honestly just fun expanding into multiple calibers for the sake of having them, even if it is “just in case”. That said, I have limited experience with .300AAC but from everything I’ve read, the defense of .300AAC seems to be superior performance and stopping power out of short barrel AR systems when compared to 5.56NATO which technically has a peak performance out of a 20” barrel. There are other benefits that you mentioned such as suppression, etc... but for me the benefit was the performance and punch from a short barrel. All of that said, since I am inexperienced shooting the caliber I could end up being wrong. And your video was well thought out, informative and I appreciate the info. Thanks again!
I appreciate the comment bro! I will be making a follow-up video. My main message is simple, go take training classes and practice a ton. Congratulations on the new gat.
@@CombatArtTraining The first 30 seconds your u make it a huge issue for you. Why even bring it up, then? Were in the middle of an ammo drought. All ammo is scarce and expensive. In reality, now isn't the time to buy any giuns or ammo, regardless of caliber.
@@CombatArtTraining I'm sure they are. They're going to premium for ammoz regardless of the caliber. 7.62x39 is going for over a buck a round. That's the same price as blackout. Everything is massively overpriced. With the advent of steel cased 300 Blackout, we have cheap practice ammo for shooting under 100 yards. Fighting with a rifle, whether it be inside or outside a home, is a relatively close range and quick encounter. Muzzle blast doesn't matter? Oh, ok. I'm not crapping all over your video. I just think it's very myopic. The things you said don't matter in CQB actually matter quite a bit. 300 BLK is an excellent urban fighting round. Don't want it yourself? Great. Your self assurance seems very overblown. A big beard does not make your a gunfighting master. Years of experience do, and 300 BLK was developed from years of experience. Same with 6.8 SPC and 6.5 G.
@@theimmortal4718 the message is simple. Buy something common, get a shit ton of ammo, take some classes, practice a ton, and don't be worried over dumb shit like barrel length and ballistics. If you don't get it, that's fine.
Availability was my main concern when considering carbine calibers; in a prolonged SHTF situation I doubt I would be able to scavenge/barter for any 300 blackout; so that rifle would probably turn into a club or wall ornament after I exhausted my initial stockpile. Also why I am planning to use .308 over the more exotic calibers for longer distance shooting when I get to that point.
personally if your worried about SHTF get into reloading. ive got enough primers and brass and powder at any time if SHTF i could damn near ration it and have ammo for the rest of my life
@@cory6667 What is the difference between stockpiling ammo and stockpiling reloading supplies? Besides the fact that you would need to scavange, clean, prep brass in a dystopian hellscape when you probably have a lot other things to worry about.
@@gary6212 the ability reuse or swap components between multiple different calibers. the ability to tailor those rounds to your rifles in different ways for different uses. My handloads perform much better than factory ammo at the fraction of a price. being able to produce ammo would be a better bargaining chip than some scavenged shit.
@@cory6667 Nice, good luck with that! I guess our military should think about deployed combat reload brigades so they can avail themselves of those critical advantages.
I really don't think too many are going to survive a "prolonged SHTF" and if they do, I don't believe that stockpiles of ammo will be a high priority on most people's list.
What a rarity, someone on TH-cam that tells you why you shouldn't buy something. Love it! In all fairness, all ammo is expensive and all ammo is hard to find right now. Very very few people that own guns have a combat load of any caliber on hand ever. Most people live box to box. Comparing cost of 300 to an AK depends heavily on whether you already own an AK. For AR15 owners (pre covid) it would be far less expensive to buy 300 BO ammo and a barrel for your AR15 than an AK (new mags, ammo, training etc) Subsonic 300 is unequivocally stupid. Requires a different buffer and spring, adjustable gas block or enlarged gas port and has the muzzle energy of 45 not to mention 200 grain 30 cal bullets are designed to expand at supersonic speeds. Fancy ice pick ya got there ;)
A couple of points well taken, but My pistol length gas cycles supers and subs, without issue. Now I'll take a 30 round mag of 300 Black with 45 ACP ballistics any day.
I love those guys who live box to box. They leave the 20 or so cases on the floor at the range, and I shoot them the next weekend. (Smiling) I'd say, 600 rounds of 300 Black, and all those cases came off the range over a few years of picking it up. love guys with Honey Badger Clones; they love to shoot fast, and never look back. I got 80 cases from a guy one Saturday. Another guy bought a case of Gemtech 300 Blk and I just sat there and policed his brass. He did kill a hog with some of the loads I gave him, after he was so gracious as to give me his empty cases.
MOST subsonic ammo is stupid. Have you seen the Maker rex solid copper 220gr or the lehigh 194gr? They are nasty and do expand at subsonic velocity. If your 300 blackout does not cycle subs and supers with the same standard carbine buffer then your barrel manufacturer sold you an out of spec gas port. On the supersonic front, an 8.5" 300 blackout with 110gr vmax or barnes has the same muzzle energy as a 14" 5.56 w/ 55gr m193. So if you are wanting a short, compact platform, 300 blackout is the way to go.
Great video. Good job. I've said this since the 300 craze started. 5.56 rifle and 9mm pistol are what nearly 99% of people will need for defense or SHTF situations. Buy a 5.56 rifle/pistol and a 9mm pistol and spend your money on ammo and training.
I have 300 and I have THOUSANDS of round, I could loadout many, subs or supers...... I reload! Blkoutbowners are reloaders for most part. AKs are shit and the steel case ammo is shit......
@@CombatArtTraining I have taken 3 classes so far using my 300 and a 2 others one using 5.56 AR and one AK class....... Ill come take your class ..... lets go......
@@CombatArtTraining yes I totally agree and Im busting your balls some I tell people all the time TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN!! Dont buy 2 guns buy one, get ammo and training and you will be so much more effective then with 2 guns. Training is key, Id love to come take your classes sir and Ill bring my lowly blkout haha thank you for all you do sir!!! Your talk about cost in ammo is right on!! 5.56 and 7.62x39 is the way to go hands down!!!
What a stupid logic and the way explain, let the people buy what they want is not your fu,,,,n business, also is the perfect time to buy a 300 black because is a lot a people buy or built and they don't know what to do in this difficult time of covid and they sale it in a good price, i get 3 months ago a 1500 one for only 500 and my gunsmith tell me is a hell of deal so your explanation is not going eny way
Lmao he's trying to get everyone to stop buying all the 300blackout so he can find some
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😂🤣😂🤣
smart
My thought exactly lol
If people stop buying it they stop selling it
I agree with him. Don't buy a 300BO so I can find more ammo.
Hahaha check Gorilla ammo. They are focusing on 300 blackout right now and they make great stuff.
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This guys a nut..I love my 300 blackout...and I load my own rounds and I get all my brass from guys like him when they leave the brass at the range. He's a fool
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I know isn't it nice. I have probably 5k plus brass from policing brass at the rang. Not all are usable but still more then 2/3 are and that is easyest way to get 300 bo brass for reloading. I only have the components to make 2k rounds but brass is brass lol.
I'm watching this a year later and ironically I found more 300 blackout of various brands at my local academy than 5.56. Glad things got a bit better.
Exactly 💯. I actually had a more reliable source of 300blk at a reasonable price in the middle of the pandemic. Only hassle was I could only buy 2 cases at a time per day. A few times I got away with catching a shift change so they sold to me twice in one day
@@derekbellamy8040 you naughty boy 🤣
I buy and shoot whatever I want. Thanks though!
Same here
Yep.
So why the fuck did u snowflakes watch it then bunch of dumbasses
@@nypal7233 lol how the guy who made the video liked this comment.
I hate when people get on social media and try to tell you would you should and shouldn't have. You buy what you like and love. I'm not big fan of 300 and short barrel, but everyone have they own opinion on what they want. People in gun stores do me the same way, this what you need and this what you should get. Nall I'm go get whatever the hell I want
You can’t find 1000 rounds of anything rn idk what you’re talking ab
Use google.
@@CombatArtTraining Even if I did I don’t feel like selling a kidney for a stockpile.
@@CombatArtTraining I don't live near Google. You specifically said "where can you go rn, near you..." And yeah, I can find anything online if I'm ready to pay an inflated price... including .300 blackout.
I got over 1000 rounds of ammo, for free yesterday. Put it through my slingshot in a hurry; 0 malfunctions.
You can get that online all day
Where can I go to get 1k rounds of 300 blackout? My basement.
Second option? My closet. I'm good
If people would just get pass the ( I can't do it /it's to hard ) I have all the parts need to reload 5.56 and 300 black out for way less then store ammonia right now
So I guess new people are sol.
Right on!!!
This video should be called “Comparing Apples and Oranges”...
300 acc is basically 7.62x39 so the comparison is dead on
@@LIONTAMER3DWell here we are in 2024 and guess which one of those cartridges is more prevalent due to import bans? They’re pretty much the same price now.
I dont think anyone is suggesting that 300aac is a replacement for 5.56. They do different things. They’re better at different things. 5.56 is probably the more flexible cartridge, meaning it will do more things better than the 300aac. That being said, 300aac is absolutely better than 5.56 at some things. This is undeniable, and anyone who tries to argue the point is just plain wrong.
If you want the best bang for your buck in terms of flexibility and bulk ammo storage, 5.56 is the way to go, and it is probably the better cartridge to start your journey with and to learn with. A direct competitor to this argument for the 5.56 is certainly 7.62x39.
Once you’ve got some ammo stored away and know what you’re doing with your carbine, now you can start looking into different cartridges that might give you an edge in certain situations. Notice that I didn’t say you should get rid of your 5.56 or 7.62x39.
The argument “if there’s still a threat, just shoot it more until it isnt a threat” is a straw man argument. Using that logic, we should all be carrying .22lr pistols. The ammo is far cheaper and more widely available, especially now. The cartridge is far more easily controllable compared with larger calibers. If you shoot a threat with it, there’s a chance it’ll make them stop. And if they don’t, you just shoot them until they do. So why aren’t we all carrying .22lr? Because it is less effective per shot than pretty much ANY larger caliber.
Lets be realistic here. Tired of people framing information in a way so as to to back up their own opinions rather than discussing the facts objectively and with logic and reason.
100% correct.
Man this dude gets it. Right tool for the right job. 👍
Thank you !
100%
Funny how you didnt get a reply from dude but most others did
"It's not about shooting and hitting the target" Yea that's all I needed to hear to end this clown show.
Post a video of you shooting a drill, let's see who's calling me a clown show.
If it's not about hitting the target how do you win the gun fight 😅
@@nicholasjerkins7393 hitting the target is the easy part. Not getting shot, not shooting the wrong person, not letting the threat have an advantage, not letting the threat hurt anyone at all, being able to save a life with medical training, and so on. It's not just about hittingg the target. Go train with someone.
@@CombatArtTraining they're eating Cheetos dude, they don't have a clue.
@@LIONTAMER3D hahaha yeah I know. But their comments are great for driving my videos performance.
"Do you really need that? I don't think so." You sound like a candidate for the AFT 😂
I said to buy a common gun, as much ammo as you can, take gunfight oriented training classes, and practice what you learned. That sounds like ATF?
@Johnny Pork chop it's what Biden called the ATF, multiple times
HAHA best comment
😂😂😂
Thats funny shit.
Dude, it's task and purpose. The job is different.
Subsonic rifle rounds for inside the house will most quickly incapacitate someone who needs to be done while not deafening my family.
I don't want anyone to go deaf, I want everyone capable of protecting themselves and those they care about because they put their time, money, and energy into training and practice instead of gear they don't need.
Your both right!!!
@Furfur Gaahl .556 indoors will hurt your hearing badly. 300 blackout subsonic rounds with a suppressor, hell even super sonic with a suppressor is way better....556 just doesn’t suppress well enough as it moves too fast.
7.62x39 subsonic IS a thing & it's still dirt cheap & widely available =/
@@LIONTAMER3D 9x39 would probably be better for suppressibility (I'm not able to say that for sure since I haven't tested that) but might not be widely available
Saw this video, convinced me to build a 300 blackout ar pistol and buy 1000 rounds of ammo.
🤣 Have fun with that 223 is down to 34 cents a round online 👍
@@mixedmarksman5873 and 300 is at 55-65c 🤯 for brass cased ammo lolol I’ll keep my 300 blk and thousands of hoarded rounds and keep training every week like clock work I’m not worried about a shortage because I budget for this shit
@@mixedmarksman5873 I Blow through a couple hundred round 2 times a week. i started reloading and bought alot of my equipment from hornady, with their get loaded promotion i got 1500 free bullets to load. and i will probably be getting a couple hundred more as i need to buy more dies. bought a couple thousand once fired brass. and cost per round untill the hornady free bullets are gone is just under 30 cents
Trust him. He has a special forces beard.
“Tactical hipster” 🤦🏾♂️
@@CGFIELDS he thinks in 1k round increments, he's not a "hipster"
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He’s probably not even a vet 🤦🏻♂️
@@italianrelic who cares, he's right about 300ACC. You're almost outing yourself as clueless if you buy that vs 7.62x39. Subsonic 7.62x39 is a thing, the rounds are 1/5th the price, and you can find them anywhere.
“Who do you know who has a full load out they can give you in .300 blackout?” Lol. Allow me to introduce myself...
Hello.. i have 2 full load outs. With ammo to spare. But it isn't cheap.. not at all lol
@@skilledtradesscotty4896 Not anymore at least. Used to be able to find S&B green box for $11 for supers, $13 for subsonic. That’s when I did most of my stocking.
I love my 300, got about 5600 rounds stocked but I live in the hills of WV and use mine for hunting deer and bear. Round does great. Right now ammo sucks at the price but thats all ammo in general. Election and panic buying caused this spike.
This channel is not about hunting.
My first time using 300 for hunting was in WV a few years ago and it was damn impressive.
Hello from WV
@@CombatArtTraining Taking a Northeastern sized deer is just about the same as taking out combatants. Is this channel more about shooting steel and paper?
how does the 300 blackout do on the bear, can it take a bear in one shot? im just curious, ive seen people hunting with it on TH-cam, but not as often. i use a 30.06 for hunting, its definitely over kill, but id rather have overkill than underkill. im my neck of the woods where i hunt, its all open fields (eastern Washington), so 100-200 yard shots.
I know a few that have 1000 rounds of 300 black out. It’s easy to reload and cheaper then to buy it new. I’m glad i bought ammo before this ammo shortage.
It is truly easy to load, and my loads shoot better than any factory I have tried. H110 and CFE-BLK.
Wtf is this guy talking about? Shop up the road where i live keeps plenty of 300 rounds in stock.. I'll agree they're a little expensive but well worth the money.. Furthermore my 7.5 inch is perfect for clearing rooms and will still get down range.. Topped off with the msr dot, magnifier, and flip up sights.. 400 yards with your ak? I've seen people ringing steel at 6-700 yrds with the 7.5 300.. GTFOH
Sweet post a video of someone hitting at 600 yards with a 7.5" 300 blackout and then make videos about how to clear rooms.
You can tell this snowflakes never been in a firefight or even a combat zone
@@nypal7233 you're a civilian now army boy.. Take a load off the war is over.. FKN DB
I have about 2500 rounds of 300blk subs, all bought in the last 2 months, found it just fine.
Good. Have you gone and trained with anyone?
@@CombatArtTraining nope He probably cried buying it
@@darianchastine934 that's usually the case with people at the range
@@CombatArtTraining rude as hell you say this to everyone and for what? Cause he said he bought some ammo 😂 but hurt cause people disagree with your stupid video 😳 wow.
@@GramCramin butt*
Never thought I'd be getting gun advice from a dude that works at a pirate themed restaurant, awesome.
I have a total of five 300 blackouts. Three ar pistols, an ar rifle, and a bolt action. I love the round! But I also agree with you. The ENTIRE point of 300 blackout is to run it subsonic with a suppressor. It’s not cheap, but it is quiet as hell and defeats body armor. Plus it works with AR’s and the only difference is the barrel. If you only have the money for a couple AR’s just stick to 5.56. If you have the cash get a 300 blackout with subsonic ammo and a suppressor.
The ol "do you really need it?" argument.
Where can you go and find 1000 rounds of anything right now
I feel like I want one more now. I want a ninja rifle for my house.
7.62x39 subsonic is dirt cheap and does the same thing
Thank you for your opinion. I enjoyed watching your video while I reload 300 blackout for my silenced rifle
Cool. What training classes have you taken?
Cant believe this guy said "do you really need that" when talking about a suppressor. If life was about "need" we would all be driving a yaris 🤷♂️
You are an idiot. I didn't say you shouldn't have it or that it's a bad thing. I said it's a waste if you don't have training. If you don't have training you are a walking pile of free gear.
@@CombatArtTrainingI guess you’re someone that thinks that without your “class,” all gun owners are unworthy of gun ownership. I’ve been through several “classes” and all but a few were a waste of time and effort.
@@Yoda052 well that’s a dumb opinion but ok
And why would he bring up parts to guns when we are talking about rounds
For some reason I think someone who names their channel "Deez Nuts" wouldn't be smart enough to grasp the concept of the video in the first place.
I have 3 friends with 5000 rounds lol I love the country boys
Nobody but it! Seriously! Dont do it! There is tons of ammo on the shelves because it sucks so bad. In fact if you have any send it to me to be discarded immediately!
You do realize the more popular .300 blackout becomes manufacturers are more likely to ramp up production of the round making cheaper and easier to find..
Yes but no round will be as cheap and easy to find as a standardized NATO round
You aren't truly prepared until you get that lasik surgery mate.
God forbid someone buys something they think is cool.
I use and have been using .300BO in an 8.5" AR for deer hunting in closer/brushier areas. Not the best, but put one together probably 2013ish? I run it suppressed and have taken a bunch of deer with it sub-100 yards. Using factory ammo, both subsonic and supersonic, it's been great. I'm also a reloader with components to reload. To echo your points, now is definitely not the time to get into a caliber like this. For limited plinking and some hunting, it's a decent round, but doesn't really excel at any one thing and it's still way more pricey than comparable and better calibers.
@Christian Grest--Being that you're an owner of the 300 BO I really appreciate your honesty. Regardless of weapon or caliber there's a lot of people who refuse to admit any down side to owning the weapon they are obsessed with. The fact is there is no weapon or caliber that doesn't have a downside to owning it. Example: I bought a Ruger LC9 in 2012 for my CC weapon. Great pistol. I've had no issues with it. Accurate, comfortable to carry and it finally jammed after running just over 1000 rounds through it, including nasty dirty steel case ammo. It will eat anything I load in it. BUT as much as I love my LC9 it has a problem, the trigger pull is way too long. I've gotten used to it after 8+ years but it still sucks. Galloway has a kit to shorten the pull and Im thinkin about it. But may buy a new LC9 since theyre striker fire now.😁. Im a Ruger fan because Ive never had any issues with them. Even had a 1992 P85 9mm that was great to shoot and never had any problems with jamming. Id like to try other pistols like Springfield or Glock but past experience leads me to Ruger. I do have rock island 1911 but it was given to me. Really like it too and also no problems except for shooting cost and getting used to breaking down a 1911. Big 'ol spring was a bit of an issue at first. Sorry everybody, for the rambling comment.
@@jamesnewton485 thanks for sharing your experiences. For sure, every caliber/firearm doesn’t do everything perfectly, otherwise we’d have just one caliber and one firearm 😃. We’re also a Ruger fan here in this house. Wife has an old P89 that’s always run 100%. It’s a tank, but a great pistol. I’ve had good luck and bad luck with different firearms over the years. I’m a big fan of building Polymer80 pistols....and have some videos over on my TH-cam channel with different types of firearms projects I’ve gotten in to. Anyways, nothing is perfect... only a blind person would say it is.
@@ChristianGrest I'll have to check out your channel. As a matter of fact I'll slide on over right now. 😁 EDIT- Just subscribed!
@@jamesnewton485 Thanks! Hope you find some helpful videos.
Maybe timing is everything. These are crappy times.
Where can you buy 1k 350 Legends, 450 Bushmaster, 45-70 gov, 458 socom, 444 marlin, 50 beowulf or 6.5 Grendel... where can you buy anything at a decent price now.. you don’t knock a caliber because you don’t see it on the shelf, of thats the case people would say “don’t buy a gun because there’s no ammo”
The only valid point here is to not buy dumb shit you don’t know how to use before training. Other than that, don’t be a poor.
That was the point of the whole video...
@@CombatArtTraining "A lot of new shooters and a lot of dudes that own a lot of guns already....basically it's a waste of time." Idk. Sounds like you were speaking to more than new shooters. I mean, if that was your point why not just say in general stop buying more guns until you're decently trained on one.
@@WildernessMedic because people try to justify why they buy 300 blackout with the points I was addressing.
If there ever was a SHTF situation, you can easily reconfigure your upper with available parts, or you'll be issued a weapon
I think 300blk is the best round for short barreled AR platforms. But I'd say that if your not already in to 300blk it's not really something to get into right now unless your willing to spend some money. Especially If it's your first rifle caliber gun.
Totally agree
Our local, in-town, ammo factory is now producing .300 AAC Blackout. Not saying you're wrong, but it isn't necessarily correct for everyone. I'm sticking with 5.56x45 myself. Until I get the money to switch to .308 that is.
This video is for The Poors that cant afford .300blk!
Change my mind!
#300blk4life
Have you spent more on guns or training classes?
@@CombatArtTraining are you promoting training classes? .....yes you are! There is no doubt training is good but come in bro. You can learn and practice on your own as well. You can watch and read about tactics and training techniques. Is it better to have someone observe and correct your bad habits, yes. You are going to far with this.
True facts brother! They are jealous they can't afford my full kit with thermal hybrid sight
@@CombatArtTraining this is like arguing about which Nickleback album is the best?!? All of them!
I’m poor and all I can afford is an Ak47 and 7.62x39 ammo 😞
I was on the fence about ordering a 300 blackout upper. 3min into this video I went ahead and purchased.
@@__-pl3jg hey what medical training do you have?
Came expecting to fling poop, stayed for the guy helping to make 300AAC more affordable for me.
First off, I don’t need to hand my friends anything, we are all well equipped. Secondly, everyone should have a suppressor, they are just smart pieces of equipment. Thirdly, math doesn’t lie!
to be fair the reason its good, is because in home defense when you dont have ear protection having quiet ammo and a quiet gun is a blessing, moreover if you're using it for home defense especially if you are inexperienced the shorter length will help you to not get caught up on things. the fact of the matter is that for a lot of people .300 blk is a useful and viable answer to home defense, and as far as ammo goes, chances are very high that you will use less that a magazeen so if you're keeping say 90 rounds for home defense and buying some whenever you want to practice at the range that is perfectly fine. it may not be the be all end all for societal collapse but in its niche it does a very good job and has features that make it beneficial both to experienced individuals and newcomers alike.
yup, and the likelihood of actually being in the situation needing to do this is few and far between in life. People like the speculate all day long about things that will never ever happen. Buy what you want, build what you want and enjoy life.
I love 300blk, building my 10.5 pistol and going hunting with it next season. The more people that use the round as it becomes more popular- the cheaper ammo will get.
Yeah dude it's a great round. All I'm saying in the video is that people buy lots of guns and expensive ammo and should have gone and taken some classes instead.
@@CombatArtTraining I made a rookie mistake with my first Blkout upper, ordered a 16" barrel with a carbine length gas system... doesn't cycle subs very well 😕 but it's gotten me more into the mods that can be done with the AR platform
@@CombatArtTraining what do classes have anything to do with .300blk?
@@JesusJK7290 I'd say if it doesn't cycle subs, you might want to have a less resistance buffer tube
@@jamesdenwitch9678 if you are buying fancy gear and have no training you are just walking free gear.
GIVE ROUNDS??? Im not even sharing my .22lr rounds
So if a friend came over and wanted to help protect you and your family during civil unrest, you would tell him no?
Sounds like an anti-gunner saying I don't need an AR15
I'm saying you're better off with a lot of ammo in a common caliber and taking a ton of training classes. I don't believe in any gun laws including background checks.
Been on the 300 Blk Train for a few years now. He was talking about me. (LOL) Yep, had it built, bought the dies, primers, and powder. And yes, waited forever for the CAN. I picked up everyone's brass at the range, and thanked them very much. Have been reloading over 40 years, so my loads work, Have some factory 300, but mine shoots better. Sitting on over 800 rounds. Oh, did I mention I have two of them. The pistol is a house gun, and the rifle kills hogs.
Don't know about y'all, but for home defense, I can finally convert and use all this worthless LC 556 brass I have lying around. And because suppressed 300blk runs at lower pressures, you can reload LC brass a Bazillion times compared to 556 and 308.
This guy looks like he needs his Double Skinny Latte.
oh look another butthurt reloader who doesn't have any training or understand the message of the video.
@@CombatArtTraining ...Young fella, you have no idea how much of a fool you just made of yourself.
@@Condor1970 post a video of you shooting or doing anything so we know where your opinion is coming from then.
@@CombatArtTraining Sorry, I'm not a voyeur. Never posted a video, and never will.
@@Condor1970 you won't because you are trash.
I would not mess with 300AAC unless you reload and its still not cheap by any means. According to this video you should just shoot .22lr, its like 3 cents a round
The world WOULD be better off if everyone shot 22LR =/
No. Way. I can swing 25 a box right now and have about 1500 rounds. Literally it’s the only round I use that was never, not once, over the last year where I go to buy my 300.
I reload blackout subs for 18 cents a shot. That’s pretty cheap
@@ShaneClark121 i cast and powder coat wheel weights and my price per round the last time i bought primers and powder was around 7-8 cent per 300 blackout.
I've only owned my .300 Blackout upper for almost nine months and I'm still getting used to it. And I don't even shoot it with a suppressor anyway. All I need for mine is a flash hider and some 110 grain ammo... but I'll use a heavier grain if it's my only option in the case of WW3 has started, or the apocalypse is in full swing.
Do you have 5.56?
Not legal to shoot a deer with 5.56 and you can still use your lower. 300 blackout it is...
This video has nothing to do with deer hunting
300 BO suppressed is still my fav AR caliber/platform. Fun to shoot. Good thump. Way more pleasant shooting than supersonic 5.56 suppressed. I have a suppressed AK pistol and i still am better and faster with my 300 because im just more familiar with the AR platform period. Its expensive now. But back when we were at 42 cents a round it was a good tradeoff vs expense caliber. My 300BO is my kitchen sink and whats next to my bed. Quetier that supersonic 5.56 and the short barrel matters. If you can effectively clear rooms with an M16 sized rifle, you would do it even better with an SBR. Thats just physics. I wouldnt get into the caliber now. But once the prices of ammo hopefully go down. You can bet ill be grabbing a couple cases.
Plus, IMHO if your limiting yourself to just one cartdridge your missing the main benefit of the ar platform. Hell have an upper in 556,300,6.5,9mm, and a 22lr conversion.
It's a swiss army knife.
I cast thousands of heavy thumpers it’s my main caliber in all my rifles
He saying so he can get all the .300 blk 😂
it would be hilarious if youtube put a misinformation disclaimer on this video lol
What misinformation did you hear?
"Need..."
The shit you are saying can be said about any caliber for any person getting into shooting.
Wrong
The 300 BLK is more versatile than a 5.56 if you use it for other things than just tactical use. It is extremely quiet with a suppressor. When you handload, you can make a shitload of ammo, and its cheaper than buying it, so his analogy is limited. Having a shorter barrel helps with clearing rooms if its in tight spaces, but yeah, practicing the artform is more important.
My uncle is a textbook example of what you're talking about. $6k+ invested in two suppressed PDW's, had them for ~2 years and shot them maybe four times. Lives 15min from the range but never goes bc he has so little .300 ammo. Has ~5k rounds of 5.56 but never uses it bc it's ballistically inferior and a waste of time. He doesn't have more than a few boxes of any given type of .300, so his zero is constantly shifting due to changing ammo types every mag, and he has no idea what is/isn't reliable.
If you have a shitload of money to blow or all of the reloading components in hand, .300blk is probably great. Otherwise you're just going to end up training 1/2 as often (or 1/3 with subs) for a marginal increase in ballistics.
Most the people who own 300 blackout are just like that too haha
From my experience the 300blk drops pigs faster than 223/5.56.
Didn't say it was a bad round. Didn't say anything about hunting.
Does it "drop pigs" in a manner notably different than 7.62X39?
@@LIONTAMER3D with good bullets both kill about the same.
@@toddparsons2980 that was his point in making his video: 300 acc is functionally identical to 7.62x39 but for its silencing properties, which he doesn't put a lot of stock in & neither do I. Also, sub-sonic 7.62x39 is a thing...
@@LIONTAMER3D sorry I don't ever remember what vid was about
I can get a thousand rounds of .300 blkout online for 48 cents a round.
"Don't buy it cause ammo is hard to find and it's expensive to have a suppressor." Good thing the other calibers don't have the same issue. Oh wait....
The issue is always twice as bad for 300 blackout.
@@CombatArtTraining your points are more of an argument to reload and less of an argument to avoid the caliber. All your arguments would have applied to 9mm and 5.56 at the time you posted, so it's kind of a strawman considering how new the caliber still is. I think it's only a matter of time before 300BLK barrels and uppers are selling as commonly as .223/5.56. Especially with Form 4s going electronic and suppressor wait times targeted at 90 days max.
@@jaredcrowley5666 my argument is to buy something common and take training and have a ton of ammo for training classes and practice. Reloading is a second job and not what you should do. 300 blackout will never be as common as standard rounds used by NATO.
That’s why I reload so I can shoot them all! Good video anyway, maybe it’ll drive some newbies away and we have more components available 😂
300aac can be reloaded aswell, if you’re a hand loader post SHTF it’s amazing cause it uses regular .30 cal projectiles and LESS powder to be sub sonic. It’s kind of a buy once cry once. .30 cal is the most common reloading caliber in the US. (.30-30, .308, .30-06, .300prc, .300winmag, etc)
Great points tho, I’d say do your 300aac PDW last once you’ve already got your 5.56 kit and training done.
300aac shouldn’t be you’re primary go to, it’s a niche cartridge with niche purposes. There’s no such thing as a do all rifle.
Also once 300aac becomes as popular as 5.56 it’ll be as cheap.
This is hilarious.
I shoot 556 but I reload it in 300 and 556. I like 125gr supersonic because I can load it up to be better than AK with sub moa groups...
Plus 1 on the 125 grain 300 Blk. Buying 125 grain TNT (Box of 500) makes reloading the 300 as affordable as it gets. The bullet will kill hogs too.
@@richardmcdonald4190
Yep, Speer TNT 125gr with 19.3gr lil gun equals better AK for 35 cents a round. Unfortunately, finding small rifle primers is the big conundrum these days...
@@nicholastetrault7492 I'm locked into H110 at 18 grains. The accuracy load is supposed to be 17.6-.8 with that powder, but I set my RCBS up to throw 18. Yep, I'm down to shooting 20 or so rounds per range trip, due to primers. I'm splitting what I have left between my 300 and my new 6.5 Grendel SPR. My AR10 likes the 125's also, and I have more LRP's than SRP's. I hope to shoot through the shortage, but the 300 keeps saying, "Just one More."
@@richardmcdonald4190
I have about 6000 primers and 4k loaded up but the new administration is playing a dangerous game and it bothers me to have a finite amount of anything freedom related.
@@nicholastetrault7492 You're luck!! I only have 400 SRP's , with about 7-800 Blackouts loaded. I'm fat on 223, but not in the 4K quantities. If I had only known. Spoke to a dealer in Ga. and he was asking $300.00 for a case that use to cost less than $50.00 retail at Bass Pro. One rip-off shop down here is asking $60.00 for 20 rounds of 300. KMA on that one!
So the video should say don't buy anything but a 22lr since it's cheap and and can buy 1000 rounds.
Get a common gun that takes common ammo and take training. That's what the video says.
So what about today when the prices of 300 are roughly the same as 7.62? And availability is okay
@@chrisandrews2980 look at what training you need before looking at what gear you need.
Love my .300bo absolute blast! Absolutely worth a spot in the safe in my opinion.
Have you spent more money on guns or training classes?
@@CombatArtTraining have you spent more time getting bitches or arguing on the internet?
Umm comprising, get an ar pistol chambered in 7.62×39 boom lol yes it's not about the round it's about being able to use same lower and mags for 2 calibers it's always been that. Its why the round was developed in the first place for the military. And its always going to be more expensive then the others cause its a speciality round not a surplus round, moral of the story buy what you want , train with What you have and let's fight against communism side by side. 👍
If Biden stops imports then 7.62x39 will go up in price more .And it will take time for the USA manufacturers to catch up. Where European companies are at. And will not be cheep as the steel case is now. 300 blackout is a USA round and all the US companies already make it. So people have a 30 caliber AR platform ready to go. I have both and I like both rounds.
Yeah the imports could definitely screw everything up for AKs.
Are we still not buying 300??
The local gun store, also yes I have enough for a full load out. It’s cool as fuck suppressed.
How many thousand round cases at the local gun store? If everyone came out to buy ammo, would there be any left? Again I'm talking to people who need training, they should not be buying a fancy caliber. A full load out at a gun store is nothing, they service hundreds to thousands of people.
Everything is expensive rate now considering these times! I roll my own and don't even pay close to ur prices of 300 and 7.62x39.
Somebody just tell me where the primers are? I'm spoiled, and have about 100 rounds of factory 300 black, I bought 4 years ago. I'd rather roll my own.
Dude, wear an eye patch. You’d look more believable.
I’ll agree mostly. If you don’t reload don’t get into 300 blk. If you do then have at it. You can reload it super cheap if you put the time in👍. Also I live in Illinois and can’t have a suppressor at all and it’s still worth it to run subs sometimes....and it makes me feel cool😎
Smiling.
I have roughly 3k 300AAC supersonic.
10k 223
5k 7.62x39(mostly brass German manufactured)
4k 6.5Grendel(half steel, half custom brass with varmint projectiles)
Not even fond of 300. But I can toss an upper in the bag with a 223 and do different things.
Awesome what classes have you taken?
I already have training… so does that mean I can get 300blk? Just asking your permission
The fact you comment like a jackass says a lot.
@@CombatArtTraining 🤣🤣🤣🤣. This is why you won’t grow as a channel
@@cfnaround1585 oh look a channel with no videos is telling me how I won't grow as a channel. Want to know something funny? This video has more dislikes than your channel has subscribers, this video brings me more subscribers everyday, that's one video. You go into other videos and trash talk because you have nothing to offer. Putting negative energy into the world won't make your life suck less, so how about you go do something productive.
@@CombatArtTraining you don’t know me man, you’re ego is hurt and I get that, but you jumped to conclusions about a joke comment. You see a clean channel and assume I have nothing, if you want to have a dick measuring contest we could. Man, I’ve grown 3 successful businesses and run social media for one of them. You’re ready to trash talk with one comment you don’t like, What I said definitely struck a cord. It’s called early adopters, there will always be early adopters. Those people just get it, but if you want to grow your channel and be better I assure you, I could definitely help your channel grow, but your attitude sucks too much to know how to handle your critics.
Its either too much narcissism or too much ego attachment to your brand. Don’t take it personal, just make it better. You would be better if you had a better attitude. I’m not here to entertain you, you’re here to entertain us, don’t forget that
@@cfnaround1585 okay post links to the businesses, the channels, and your real name.
I keep a thousand rounds on tap and I find it relatively easy though yeah it's pricy. I like the specialty ammo really. Got a setup that shoots subs and supers just fine. Good accuracy out to 100. I like it cause the S&B subs wreck soft armor like you're not wearing it and it won't deafen the Mrs. Solid copper 300 blackout is just obscenely potent even in super short barrels still in the 1900 fps range.
How do supes compare to subs on the soft armor?
I use 300blk for hog hunting, nothing to do with clearing rooms.
This channel is not about hunting
@@CombatArtTrainingI doubt anyone watching this channel is kicking in doors either. So by that logic they shouldn't need .223/5.56 ammo since it is a military round.
@@TheDuppyman the logic is that having a super quiet, hard to find in bulk, and expensive round is unnecessary.
If you paid attention you would have seen that was what I was saying.
@@CombatArtTraining everything is super hard and expensive right now. When walmart use to sell rifle ammo and I could walk into one and buy it 300 blk I would say it's main stream. Expensive is relative, and the 300 blk is more versatile and better at bucking the wind that 5.55.
@@TheDuppyman wrong. Watch the video again.
I definitely get what your saying 99.9 percent of people need to spend less money on gear and more on training. It's the person that wins a gunfight not the gun. I will say this though I didn't get into guns to save money or because it's an economical hobby lol. Right now 300 is about 60 cents a round for supers. I carry a 9 in 300 with a law folder as my truck gun with usually 6 mags. Folded it can fit in a laptop case. I can carry it into stores, restaurants, hotels without a second look and still have 1200 foot pounds energy at the muzzle, right on par with a full size 5.56. it wouldn't be a good cal. For a shtf scenario but it has it's purpose imo. Just another tool in the box. Anyways appreciate the video and God bless.
All I wanna know is can the ATI Schmisser s60 shoot .300blk flawlessly?
This aged horribly. Now 5.56 and .300 BO are the same price
And when everyone goes and buys up all the ammo what are manufacturers going to put back on the shelves first? What round are the people around you most likely going to be using? And how many training classes have you taken with a 300 blackout rifle?
Me watching this while my 300BO rifle and 10.5 pistol 300bo sit in the safe cuz I have no ammo lol and still looking online for the 7.5 300 bo pistol lol great video bro
Haha thanks man
I'll sell ya my 7.5 barrel
If you're willing to shop online there's plenty of ammo but it's just a lot more expensive now.
You broke my heart....
They are just hammers bro
@@CombatArtTraining bro I legit said to my dad "guess I gotta sell my 300 BLK now cause Andrew said too " lmaoooo
@@BitcoinCryptoNews hahaha I would
@@CombatArtTraining haha I have my 10.5 300 BLK and my Scorpion EVO 3 BullPup...if you know anybody lol both are avail
@@BitcoinCryptoNews arms list post it there
Should be labeled "300 not for beginners"
If I was a FNG, and asked someone, My first AR would be a 300 Blk, 10.5 inch Pistol and the next one, an 18 inch 6.5 Grendel SPR. Those two kill quick and shoot far.
Hog hunting, thermal, and suppressors go together.
I understand that but we are not talking about hunting
"You don't neeeed that"
-This guy, and the feds.
Yeah because people buy fancy gear and don't take training. You need training and thousands of rounds to practice what you learned. I don't think we should even have background checks to buy guns and we should be able to own whatever we want including nuclear weapons. Now tell me, what training classes have you taken in the last two years?
😂 this guy
Some reverse psychology bullshit. U just want more ammo for yourself Hahahaha. But for real, yeah if you like to shoot a lot, blackout ain’t for you (unless you’re rich). No cartridge is affordable right now though. But blackout always costs more.
7.62x39 is affordable right now. I can get 1000 rounds at target sports for $321 shipped (when its in stock). That's less then 9mm these days.
First video I’ve seen of yours. Actually watching after just making a purchase on a .300 AAC Pistol and this was the first video I found when looking for suggested ammo lol. I bought it just cause I wanted it, didn’t have a AR Pistol and 5.56 is less effective from a short barrel. I don’t get the few comments trashing you. I thought you articulated your point well and it was a coherent argument.
Over the last year and a half my personal philosophy has rapidly become “own every caliber that you can and all the ammo you can and you’ll never not have something to shoot when the wolf comes to the door.” I was exclusively 5.56/.30-30/.30-06/.45ACP/.357 Mag guy before covid. Since then I’ve expanded to owning pistols and rifles chambered in 9mm, .40S&W, .300AAC, 7.62x39mm, .25-06 and maybe a few more. I found this to be a good way to diversify in case any one type of ammo experiences a shortage. That said, you could make an argument that you can simply own 5.56 and 9mm (as an example) and buy every round you can find and store it. That is one feasible way to go. But I have found it useful and honestly just fun expanding into multiple calibers for the sake of having them, even if it is “just in case”. That said, I have limited experience with .300AAC but from everything I’ve read, the defense of .300AAC seems to be superior performance and stopping power out of short barrel AR systems when compared to 5.56NATO which technically has a peak performance out of a 20” barrel. There are other benefits that you mentioned such as suppression, etc... but for me the benefit was the performance and punch from a short barrel.
All of that said, since I am inexperienced shooting the caliber I could end up being wrong. And your video was well thought out, informative and I appreciate the info. Thanks again!
I appreciate the comment bro! I will be making a follow-up video. My main message is simple, go take training classes and practice a ton. Congratulations on the new gat.
I don't need 1000 rounds, or even 4 or 5 mags worth for home defense. It would be a one in a billion gunfight that would require a mag change at all
It's not just about home defense. Never said you need 5 mags for home defense.
@@CombatArtTraining
The first 30 seconds your u make it a huge issue for you. Why even bring it up, then?
Were in the middle of an ammo drought. All ammo is scarce and expensive. In reality, now isn't the time to buy any giuns or ammo, regardless of caliber.
@@theimmortal4718 the video is not just about home defense. People are still buying guns.
@@CombatArtTraining
I'm sure they are. They're going to premium for ammoz regardless of the caliber.
7.62x39 is going for over a buck a round. That's the same price as blackout.
Everything is massively overpriced.
With the advent of steel cased 300 Blackout, we have cheap practice ammo for shooting under 100 yards.
Fighting with a rifle, whether it be inside or outside a home, is a relatively close range and quick encounter. Muzzle blast doesn't matter? Oh, ok.
I'm not crapping all over your video. I just think it's very myopic. The things you said don't matter in CQB actually matter quite a bit. 300 BLK is an excellent urban fighting round. Don't want it yourself? Great.
Your self assurance seems very overblown.
A big beard does not make your a gunfighting master. Years of experience do, and 300 BLK was developed from years of experience. Same with 6.8 SPC and 6.5 G.
@@theimmortal4718 the message is simple. Buy something common, get a shit ton of ammo, take some classes, practice a ton, and don't be worried over dumb shit like barrel length and ballistics. If you don't get it, that's fine.
Where can I find 1000 rounds? The lawn shop down the street has steel case brass case and 220 grain subs
Availability was my main concern when considering carbine calibers; in a prolonged SHTF situation I doubt I would be able to scavenge/barter for any 300 blackout; so that rifle would probably turn into a club or wall ornament after I exhausted my initial stockpile. Also why I am planning to use .308 over the more exotic calibers for longer distance shooting when I get to that point.
personally if your worried about SHTF get into reloading. ive got enough primers and brass and powder at any time if SHTF i could damn near ration it and have ammo for the rest of my life
@@cory6667 What is the difference between stockpiling ammo and stockpiling reloading supplies? Besides the fact that you would need to scavange, clean, prep brass in a dystopian hellscape when you probably have a lot other things to worry about.
@@gary6212 the ability reuse or swap components between multiple different calibers. the ability to tailor those rounds to your rifles in different ways for different uses. My handloads perform much better than factory ammo at the fraction of a price. being able to produce ammo would be a better bargaining chip than some scavenged shit.
@@cory6667 Nice, good luck with that! I guess our military should think about deployed combat reload brigades so they can avail themselves of those critical advantages.
I really don't think too many are going to survive a "prolonged SHTF" and if they do, I don't believe that stockpiles of ammo will be a high priority on most people's list.
What a rarity, someone on TH-cam that tells you why you shouldn't buy something. Love it!
In all fairness, all ammo is expensive and all ammo is hard to find right now. Very very few people that own guns have a combat load of any caliber on hand ever. Most people live box to box.
Comparing cost of 300 to an AK depends heavily on whether you already own an AK. For AR15 owners (pre covid) it would be far less expensive to buy 300 BO ammo and a barrel for your AR15 than an AK (new mags, ammo, training etc)
Subsonic 300 is unequivocally stupid. Requires a different buffer and spring, adjustable gas block or enlarged gas port and has the muzzle energy of 45 not to mention 200 grain 30 cal bullets are designed to expand at supersonic speeds. Fancy ice pick ya got there ;)
A couple of points well taken, but My pistol length gas cycles supers and subs, without issue. Now I'll take a 30 round mag of 300 Black with 45 ACP ballistics any day.
You do realize that a combat load is only 210 rounds
I love those guys who live box to box. They leave the 20 or so cases on the floor at the range, and I shoot them the next weekend. (Smiling) I'd say, 600 rounds of 300 Black, and all those cases came off the range over a few years of picking it up. love guys with Honey Badger Clones; they love to shoot fast, and never look back. I got 80 cases from a guy one Saturday. Another guy bought a case of Gemtech 300 Blk and I just sat there and policed his brass. He did kill a hog with some of the loads I gave him, after he was so gracious as to give me his empty cases.
@@zackerylynch53 Been a long time since I had to hump a basic load, but at 210, I could load out a few guys.
MOST subsonic ammo is stupid. Have you seen the Maker rex solid copper 220gr or the lehigh 194gr? They are nasty and do expand at subsonic velocity. If your 300 blackout does not cycle subs and supers with the same standard carbine buffer then your barrel manufacturer sold you an out of spec gas port. On the supersonic front, an 8.5" 300 blackout with 110gr vmax or barnes has the same muzzle energy as a 14" 5.56 w/ 55gr m193. So if you are wanting a short, compact platform, 300 blackout is the way to go.
Great video. I was leaning towards a 300. I’m glad you are Man enough to tell the truth! Thanks
You are welcome brother! Thank you for the awesome comment, you make reading the comments worth it!
There are 20 academy sporting good stores in the area, and all have large quantities of 300 BO on the shelves. It ain't cheap, but it's there.
1/1 Bravo? I was 1st platoon from 2007-2011
That's right. I was in 2011-2015
Great video. Good job. I've said this since the 300 craze started. 5.56 rifle and 9mm pistol are what nearly 99% of people will need for defense or SHTF situations. Buy a 5.56 rifle/pistol and a 9mm pistol and spend your money on ammo and training.
EXACTLY! It's amazing how logic makes things simple haha.
I have 300 and I have THOUSANDS of round, I could loadout many, subs or supers...... I reload! Blkoutbowners are reloaders for most part. AKs are shit and the steel case ammo is shit......
Nice. How many classes have you taken?
@@CombatArtTraining I have taken 3 classes so far using my 300 and a 2 others one using 5.56 AR and one AK class....... Ill come take your class ..... lets go......
@@Marcus2750-u1t haha right on, that's what I'm talking about! I see all the time people want to buy a new gun and still haven't had training.
@@CombatArtTraining yes I totally agree and Im busting your balls some I tell people all the time TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN!! Dont buy 2 guns buy one, get ammo and training and you will be so much more effective then with 2 guns. Training is key, Id love to come take your classes sir and Ill bring my lowly blkout haha thank you for all you do sir!!! Your talk about cost in ammo is right on!! 5.56 and 7.62x39 is the way to go hands down!!!
@@Marcus2750-u1t your mindset is there bro! I'm looking forward to training with you!
What a stupid logic and the way explain, let the people buy what they want is not your fu,,,,n business, also is the perfect time to buy a 300 black because is a lot a people buy or built and they don't know what to do in this difficult time of covid and they sale it in a good price, i get 3 months ago a 1500 one for only 500 and my gunsmith tell me is a hell of deal so your explanation is not going eny way
You illiterate buffoon. What the hell did you try to type? Get off my comments and make your own video.
In your logic you dont need a gun because unless youre defending your home you dont need it lol
Wrong. You need a pistol and rifle in common calibers, trauma kits, armor, night vision, radios, and training to go with all of it.
As someone who has had to provide covering fire for someone fixing their 300 blk out, i would never RELY on one.