Arizona Sunshine 2 | PSVR2 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Arizona Sunshine 2 on PlayStation VR2 is better than the 8-year old original, sure. But how much better is it? REVIEW KEY PROVIDED BY DEVELOPER / PUBLISHER
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After watching the review, this is a wait for sale title for me.
Sames
Yup lol I’ll be waiting for sale
@@AceMaverick Ditto
Same.
I second this comment.
This just makes me appreciate how great The walking Dead saints and sinners really is. The developers behind that are really amazing. The way they managed to make you feel as if items had a weight to them. Tha fatigue one would endure from pushing off attackers. All of it. Really just... Something else
Sorry a question, does walking dead have a teleport mode/camera?
@@Fabios__ oh that's a good question, I don't know. I'll find out for you
@@Subfightr thanks you so much!!!🙏
@@Fabios__I looked, wow it doesn't have teleport options. My mom gets instantly VR sick too in those games, she can't even watch people play a flat FPS, but I gave her Dramamine (non drowsy) it's 5 bucks at any pharmacy, no prescription needed. She took it, and she never felt sick for the first time ever. It also supposedly helps to have a fan blowing on the front of you as well, not just like.. a ceiling fan. It just takes some time for your brain to accept the movement, it is possible to over come it. Do it in small bursts, don't play until you feel sick. Even if you play for only 5 minutes a day for a week, then next week 10, etc.
You don't want to associate it with sickness cause eventually just thinking about it can cause a pavlovian response and you'll feel a bit sick without even putting the headset on. It's crazy. That game though... Totally worth it lol. GOOD LUCK!
it does tbh i think every single vr game i've played does.@@Fabios__
Honestly, the "No real inventory" for me personally is a plus. I really liked the more casual approach in the first game, so I'm glad I won't need to spend a lot of time pulling out some backpack and putting things in and out of squared slots. Maybe because I'm an older gamer, I'm also not a big fan of crafting in general.
That's great to hear! Obviously the things I love and look for in games isn't universal so I appreciate you sharing your opinion. I hope you enjoy the game even more than I did! :D
Wow, a reply from the man himself! Even though we do not have the exact same taste (we're different human beings, after all), your opinion have always weighted in my decision to buy VR games since the early days of PSVR1. So I also appreciate you honest takes, don't really matter if I agree or not. In the case of Arizona Sunshine 2, all I wanted was "more of the same with better graphics", so I'm probably gonna enjoy it. Thanks for the review, Bryan!
@@renatop7 always happy to help! Let me know what you think of Arizona 2 once you play it!
Sale ends on the 7th but review coming on the 5th ! What great timing love it when Bryan gets the review keys 🔑
We Pre-Ordered = 48 Hours/2 Day Early Access 😎
@@WaynerTheGamerOooof sorry for your loss.
STOP PREORDERING!
Seems like we agree on a lot of points... Solid review!
Loved your review as well Ryan. Waiting for a sale on this one.
Why is this game $60? This is why VR is dead
Thanks for the fair and honest review. I've been on the fence and I think I'll wait for a sale. I hope they consider patching so more items can be carried--so many VR games have that (backpacks, for instance?) so I agree with you that it was a missed opportunity to incentivize exploration through item collection. The limited crafting options and even more limited inventory space really makes this game feel like a one-trick pony: just kill zombies ad infinitum. I think one thing that can really make a game great is giving players a lot to do so that they're constantly setting and prioritizing their own goals. Collecting items (for extensive crafting options or even non-craftable items for completionists) really could have added another layer to this.
Yeah, I think they could fix the explosives/crafting/scavenging issue pretty easily with a patch. My proposed solution: 1) allow you to stack up to 3 explosives of the same type in a single slot, so that they're valuable enough to want. 2) Increase the amount of ingredients required to craft components so that it isn't always trivial to make them and you actually have to search/scavenge to have enough materials (which is now worth it because you can carry enough).
Optionally (and perhaps more difficult): 3) alter the quantities of different types of materials that spawn into different areas, so that players don't just stick to a single type of explosive for the whole game (like one area would more frequently have the material for molotovs, another would be frags, etc). 4) add in or increase the number of enemies that are harder to kill without using explosives, or do a better job of indicating that explosives are more useful for certain types of enemies.
A backpack system would also be cool, but it'd take a bit more effort to implement and get right (most of my suggestions would just be a matter of tweaking variables). Regardless of how they tackle it, I hope they figure something out, as exploration/scavenging would definitely help break up the gameplay and extend the play time.
I was already on the fence about the game. This help me confirm that I'll PROBABLY wait for a sale.
It’s on sale now. 20% off
I liked how you put the pros and the cons on the screen for a significant amount of time enough for everyone to be able to read 😊
I think this game looks great, and the issues with crafting/inventory don't sound like a deal breaker to me. Excited to jump in!
Thank you for producing this review, I am happy with my pre-order!👍
Outstanding review, all my questions were answered. I’m buying the deluxe edition so I can hop in now! It’ll definitely tie me down while I wait for Resident Evil 4 in anguish
🤭
Me watching this review knowing damn well I don't have PSVR2. :(
Update: I bought a PSVR2 :)
@@oribt1 Congrats! 🎉I got mine a week ago, and i have never experienced such good VR tech before.
@@dumhass1014 Lol, also have it for about a week and I have never experienced *any* VR tech before.
Sounds like we should start it at higher or full difficulty level to get the most out of it. Should take longer to complete also.
We need Dead Island 2 on VR. Dead Island 2 is one of the most fun i had playing a game this year.
Will wait till it hits the 19.99 mark.
Great review as always my friend. Shame to see the start of December looking like this but as the next couple weeks go on we will have some bangers. Here is hoping they can figure out the issues and patch them in (I know we say that a little too much these days) but with patches and improvements it just makes the library so much stronger. Stay breathtaking.
Which games are coming out soon? I haven't really been keeping up with VR lately but would like to get back in if something cool comes out.
@@1985NEVETS resident evil 4 remake, ancient dungeon, vertigo 2 and five nights at Freddy’s help wanted 2. As an added bonus if you like tower defence games towers and powers. There is also not for broadcast and tiger blade the week after.
Although the rating is lower than I expected, I will buy this game when it comes out.
Part of the appeal of After the Fall is the constant rewards. It encourages you to explore because you might just find a sweet weapon mod. It baffles me they didn’t add a system like that here, considering you can go off the main path. 🙄
Good point. Same with saints and sinners. As much as I love the game once I got every ability and item crafted I felt like I was just done... But it did keep me coming back until I got everything. I would go back but there's just... No point in life LOL if I was that survivor I probably would have just blown my brains out once I accomplished everything
Very Limited crafting in this game. Don’t even think they needed to add it.
“Too good to be true” should be Vertigo Games’ motto. Their ideas are always so good, but their execution always has me wondering why I keep purchasing their games 😅
Thanks Bryan, another great review.
Looks OK, but definitely wait for a sale for me, unfortunately
"No boss fights" is definitely a + for me. Never liked those bullet sponge type enemies ...
Same, they’re cool but it doesn’t affect my opinion if a game at all
I mean I was hoping for actual boss fights, not just bigger bullet sponge versions of existing zombies. Good boss fights can be fun and intense, not to mention memorable
this is such a bummer after prop hotel had such great boss fights@@WithoutParole
I will wait for a major patch or two to see what they had planned but wasn't ready. If nothing new I'll wait for a sub-$35 sale.
I'm still gonna get it. I love Arizona Sunshine
Strange how close this game gets to being really solid! The minor things don't bother me, but no bosses, lack of story/inventory space and poor crafting system are a real let down. Maybe they can patch most of that up a bit. I don't expect bosses to ever appear, though.
Did you figure out what the bottle is on the left side of your vest? It always says 0 ??
Yeah I’m sure it’ll improve over time like the first one did. I’m loving it but found the gun position in the wrong place and can’t find the settings to change that! It had it when starting the game though…if anyone else is having the same issue. I recommend setting the guns further back so when ya bend down to grab stuff ya done keep accidentally grabbing your guns 😵💫 hope someone knows how to go back to change that? Cos I can’t find it
thanks for making an honest and critical review ! saved me $50
Resident Evil was the zombie game I was waiting for in December. Still might pick this game up down the line.
Same here😊
Death threats over a video game review...Man some people just have no actual problems in their lives.
That, or they have a very real problem in their life, namely a serious mental illness.
I totally agree though, there's no rational reason to send someone a death threat over a videogame review.
7.2/10 for AS2 and 4/10 for Arashi... that means December won't be as incredible as it seemed to be one week ago.
Yeah 😭 I sang the PSVRs praises, got both psvr 2 and two the day it came out, I got the ps5 ONLY because of the eventual PSVR2. But now , after letdown after letdown. I got a quest 3 stand alone, I almost don't want to admit it but I love that thing so much more. It can do WAAAY more for one thing, it's basically a cell phone on my face, but even the games that are on psvr2, while.tjey may not look quite as good (sometimes they do, plus these games are likely just quest 2 games that work on the quest 3). Dude, the games play so much better, where the PSVR 1 and 2 might force teleport, the quest says "ok but if you puke that's on you bro" I now realize almost all of these PSVR 2 games are really just quest 2 ports with MAYBE slightly better lighting effects and resolution.
Sucks...
@@Subfightr Quest headsets are the way to go for me. Graphics isn't everything, gameplay
has more weight in the end.
You forgot Re4
God I love when Mike Birbiglia gets referenced in any TH-cam vid
I think it shines thanks to the multiplayer
Mike birbiglia is hilarious! 😂😂😂 1:59
Not ashamed to say that its mainly FOMO that got me a to pick this one up, but I highly suspect waiting maybe months for a proper sale would have been the better idea. I wasnt expecting much story wise but i was at least expecting top notch visuals, top notch vr mechanics, and dead island style gameplay. Seems like we didnt get as much of that as we might have hoped. The outdated mechanics and lack of boss fights is probably what bugs me the most. But hey we got re4 releasing in a few days(i bought that game months ago and havent played more than a couple of chapters in anticipation of its vr release), so playing this along with re4 should make up for the sting of this having mid gameplay. Not surw if i will even be able to conplete the entire 7hrs, but hopefully its better than what im expecting.
You're never going to see that on something that runs natively on the Quest 2.
Cannot wait to get through this shift and play it tonight when I get home
We already have saints and dinners I’ll stick with that.
Same here❤ S&S is a lot better because you have the crafting Factor and much more Weapons and Items what makes it deeper. AZ2 looks almost like a generic free to play mobile Zombie Game. No Thanks.
RE4 at Friday 👍 Vertigo 2 at 12.12
So, sounds like a good base for the guys to build on. Will keep an eye on it
The lack of inventory space and how it kills the motivation for crafting seems like a pretty massive mistake. If I had to guess I'd say they made some changes late in development, either to their inventory system to make it more streamlined, or to nerf the amount of explosives you can carry for game balancing reasons. If they allowed you to stack a few of the same type of explosive in a single slot, and increased the number of components required to build each item, they could add meaning back into crafting which would motivate exploration.
Great job on the review as always. I was hoping this'd be north of 8.5 as it feels like the PSVR 2 could use some bangers right now. Oh well, RE4R and Vertigo 2 will hopefully deliver.
They didn't craft in the first game tho so i need no point
Looks great to me 🤷♂️
the price alone is an offence by itself, one better kept for a deep, deep, deep south sale when it is close to $20 at best.
Hhhmmm I may just hold off on this then.
May just wait for resi evil 4 vr on Friday and then sell my psvr2
Sounds like I can focus on my backlog and get to it when it's on sale.
Same lol
So excited to hear about the game.
Having no boss fights is a total bummer. Weapon modding ala Dead Island 2 would have made things more fun too, so really hoping for some major updates/patches to add some more content into this to make things more interesting.
Played for like a half hour during lunch and really enjoyed it. Was thinking it would be around an 8. So I am happy so far.
Glad I decided to pump the brakes with this one. Like REmake 4 and Vertigo 2 weren't already enough for games in December. Great review Bryan!
You're absolutely right. The lack of boss fights is bizarre, and the lack of inventory is lame as well as the scavenging. I have to say though I think the overall story makes it more light hearted than say Walking Dead series. I enjoy that I can play both and it's not monotonous. At any rate thanks overall I think you nailed it. Thanks!
Looks good will check it out tonight
Reply and let us know what you think will you? Thanks. I hope you like it.
@@Subfightrreally liking it but only 2 hours in.The physics and amount of zombies is amazing. Do get pop in on larger areas and grabbing is sometimes awkward. It's so fun though and guns feel awesome and will be very replayable. Dog is great and controls well. 8.5 from me
Gunplay looks solid
Rise and Arizona Sunshine!
Two more days everybody two more days!!!!! Then we will see next generation, VR!!! 🧟♂️
Wasn't ready to see Mike Birbiglia on this😂
$50, 7hrs and no foveated rendering for native 90fps for us PSVR2 gamers? Nope. Waiting for sale.
Thank you for the review ! 👍
Let the waiting game begin
At least PSVR 2 owners will have Resident Evil 4 remake VR in a few days. That game will be amazing.
I'll still buy this despite its issues but at the most £25 I think. No rush to get it at all. Great review Bryan 😊
I loved the 1st Arizona Sunshine, and I really want to try this out but I’m in the middle of RE8 and I have RE4 to try next so I think I’ll wait and hopefully get this when the price comes down 👌
Seems to me that only capcom can do some justice to vr. Started village in vr and finished in vr, played re7 in vr a finished it in vr now waiting for re4 to be vr and of course do the vr. If it wasn't for capcom and the 2 walking dead saint and sinners my psvr2 would have been sold ages ago
I fully agree. The only games I fully enjoyed are Resident Evil Village and Saint and Sinners on PSVR2. I also loved Proagation Hotel Paradise. PSVR1 felt more memorable for me. I loved most 'experiences' because VR was a novelty, but indie 'experiences' on PSVR2 is harming this generation. I can't wait for RE4 VR but after this game I'm unsure if other games will really captivate me.
my next one will be propagation definitely. I'm never pre ordering anything because it's just a huge disappointment
Same here, in every way
@@derealslimbroda2897 Propagation Hotel Paradise was worth the money and time. It's almost as if it was a strong Resident Evil DLC. One of the action-driven puzzles was totalĺy brillant. The atmosphere was scary. I found the difficulty too high near the end of the chapter, though. I can't wait for chapter two.
Darn…was hoping this would be THE co-op campaign game on PSVR2.
If this isn’t, anyone know what is the best one around at the moment?
No idea personally, but if rumours are true we will get a Farpoint 2 announced soon. It might be the mystery space game in the recent vr2 teaser. That should have great coop like the first game did.
Same. I had planned to buy two copies (PSVR2/Quest 3) of the game for this very reason. Will wait for a deep sale now before taking the plunge.
@@itsthedude3138 Oh man, I REALLY hope Farpoint 2 is coming. Top of my wishlist.
That's exactly what I was planning on doing as well so I could play with my girlfriend.
@@Subfightr Yeah, but personally I’m still looking forward to getting this. Impressions and reviews are generally positive enough to give me sufficient confidence that it’ll be a lot of fun to play. Just not quite the killer co-op campaign game that I was hoping for.
Should explain more about the horde mode, like how do you get better weapons is there points to spent is it round based especially for people that never played the first one.
Dang, I was really hyped about this one. Definitely a wait for sale for me, at least this month with other titles coming …
Loving Arizona Sunshine2 so far cant wait to beat it on the hardest difficulty level YaY new-Game +!!!
...* preying * it'll have new unlocks in hardest difficulty levels. Either way love it, but even more if i find something. I Hope b4 a DLC tho. LoL :)
Just wanted the community to know re4 on the UK store has 57% off £23!! Good timing!
Thank you for your vr2 reviews man!! Saved me some money. This is a sale game for sure. Looks fun though
meh its not a bad game. looks fun enough to me so im getting it.
So far i am having a blast in this game and is really as i thought it would be. However, I’ve never been a fan of after the fall and its inventory system. It would be nice if they patch in a solution. Still, it will keep me busy until RE4 drops. Arashi was a letdown to start off the month but i don’t feel like this one is. Its not perfect but its fun and solid overall. Excellent review as usual Bryan thanks
The dog can carry things for you, he can hold some explosives or guns
Who controls buddy in co op mode ??
vr looks so god damn good on ps5
I'm still a-fred to preorder it 🥁
Definitely sale for me. Expect a touch more at that price point
“Let’s just say its nothing you haven’t seen before” comment with the pause makes me feel there is going to be a i am legend sorta ending for the dog 😢
Not I Am Legend, but it's a copy and paste version of another story we've all seen recently...
Why is every so broke they can’t afford $50 for 7 hours of entertainment. Do you ever take your girl to the movies? Probably not with that logic
To quote Dave Chapelle:
“IM BROKE N**GA IM BROKE!!”
Glad I never pre orderd will wait for sale learnt from after the fall
u can actually load some nades and mines to dog. But still there is not enough inventory space for all if u use melee weps and utilities. Even if i play it on survivor difficulty there is still plenty of resources
Yeah the recent update upped the dog's inventory from 2 items to 4. It's a slight improvement, but I'd still prefer a full inventory system on my back
Strap in for an October 2023 repeat!
Month looked hype as hell and we’re already off to more disappointment. Great.
It's what I said
@@Brasslantern007 People will never learn
No boss fights??
I would really LOVE to see a dlc for this game like the last game!
Ive been enjoying this, didn't realise the length of it though put it down after a little session and 25% through. Has forever pool slipped under the radar or not worth a review?
Reviews take an insane amount of time to get done. I'm currently working on Among Us, Ancient Dungeon, Vertigo 2, and (in just a few hours) Resident Evil 4 review. I haven't even had a chance to look at ForeVR Pool but hopefully when things settle down a bit I can catch up on some games I haven't had time for! :D
@@WithoutParole yer course, appreciate the effort it takes and your content is great. I was just surprised nobody has even mentioned it in TH-cam even on upcoming. Don't think even Sony trailered it. the only content is at least 6 months old on quest and it looks quite good. Keep up the great work 👍.
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for the bargain bin on this one. No boss types and a few unique enemy types kills the experience for me. I would give it a try at $20 next year.
Was expecting more than 7 hours based on the AAA pricing. This becomes a wait for sale.
At this point we got RE4 as our last hope/savior. Please don't dissapoint!
Vertigo 2 is apparently also very good. So two hopes. For this month, anyway.
@@GreyMatterShades hopefully we get a 3rd hope for Ven VR if it does end up releasing this month
@@CheckmateStallioN I'm curious about Ven VR, but it only got decent reviews when it came out on other platforms, so I'm not expecting it to give Astrobot a run for his money. Could be good if it's priced right. 🤞
@@GreyMatterShades if we don't get an Astrobot VR2 announcement at Keighley's VGAs this Thursday then I guess Ven VR is what we got to look forward to for the next little while. Was surprised to see PSVR2 getting some recog at the VGA nominations so hopefully Sony has some surprises up their sleeve for the show on Thursday. Many people are expecting the rumoured GoW Ragnarok DLC and Twisted Metal game to make an appearance at the VGAs
@@CheckmateStallioN It'd be cool to see some Sony stuff, but man I'm so done getting my hopes up over them... at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the new Astro game launched flat only, then got a VR patch 6 months later that Sony only talks about on their blog... LOL 🤣😂😆😐😢😭
As for PSVR 2 getting some love, I'm not all that surprised. First, Sony is a major supporter of the show and there's a VR category. Not saying the nominations are bought (I doubt Sony would spend the money, lol!), just sayin. Second, PSVR 2's launch is basically the only VR thing that most videogame outlets even covered this year, so it'd be the only thing most of the reviewers who pick the awards would know about. Still, it'd be cool if one of the PSVR 2 exclusives won.
I think the only way Sony is going to show something new for PSVR 2 is if it's a hybrid, which could happen with Ace Combat 8 (backed by Sony), or the new Twisted Metal or Astrobot games. Not holding my breath though.
Sadly Arizona Sunshine 2 and RE4 remake VR mode releasing the same week may have a negative affect on sales.
Is it playable using the DualShock controller?
Sense controllers only
I recently bought AZ Sunshine 2 and I'm wondering why my manual pistol reload mechanics are completely broken. I can't get the magazine into the bottom of the gun due to the controllers colliding with each other, which makes the game unplayable. I'm wondering if this was an update that broke the game. I really don't want to reload by simply pressing a button as it's just not as much fun, so I've resorted to trying to throw the magazine into the air and smashing the pistol into the mag. Needless to say, this isn't working out well. Dealing with even one or two zombies when I'm out of ammo in the clip is extremely difficult.
did you ever jump back in when the patch came out?
Hope they update it to have a
Explosive slot at the very least
Yeah, or let you stack maybe 3 of the same type, so they're worthy of taking up a slot. That + maybe increasing the component costs to craft them could make crafting/scavenging more worthwhile. Should be solvable via a patch. 🤞
@@GreyMatterShades another way they can fix it is have the crafting case on your back
that you can pull out and craft at least that way you can use it when you want
cuz at the moment the back not even used
Can you talk about trophies in your reviews ? I'm sure there's a lot of trophy hunters that watch you
Can you play multiplayer with random ppl, and if so is it hard to find a match.
Every game looks better in PSVR2 than my Quest 3, Reverb G2 or Valve Index.
Not only does it look better but is so optimized and smooth!
Even janky Pavlov feels like a totally different game on PSVR2 and I cannot call it janky anymore.
Ugh. My wishlist/wait for a sale list is getting huge.
Pls let this game be good... last vr game I was this hyped for was.... ... foglands... 🤞
Here we go❤❤❤
Pretty new to vr, but got yourself a new subscriber , looking at more of your reviews ,good work 👍
Damn I even pre ordered lol
The developers really need to expand the inventory system, add a backpack or something. Also, add more items and gear.
@@Brasslantern007 when every preview is talking about this game like it’s the next must have and the fact the first one is extremely popular, I don’t blame anyone for pre ordering
@@Ant-bm1qk Pretty sure there's still time to cancel your pre-order if you're regretting it. I think the developers at least deserve some credit for having a review embargo that lifts before launch day so that people who preordered can cancel.
@@Ant-bm1qk That's cope dude. Gamers have been burned time and time again by what looked like promising titles from reputable developers. Anthem, No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk 2077, Star Wars Battlefront, The Avengers, Fallout 76, TWD Saints and Sinner 2, yet they continue preordering. I don't blame the developers anymore. At this point the responsibility is on you to be a smart consumer. Sorry for the rant but its frustrating as hell to see
@@Jdb63 I preordered cyberpunk on pc, I didn’t have many issues and enjoyed it. But if I had got it on ps4 or 5 I would have been a bit salty. I did preorder this and I did expect more tbh. However I had a lot of fun with the first game on pace and then on my index so I’m ok with this for the moment. Also what was bad about saints and sinners 2 I liked it
@@Jdb63 not really coping. I spent my money and that’s it. I’m not here ranting and complaining.
I just hit a £20 reward on the PS Stars app, so with that cutting the cost in half, I'm fine with this.
Is there a way to go back to the setup for the gun position? Cos every time I go to reach down to do something. The guns get in the way and I end up grabbing them instead.
The setup happened every time I started the game -- so at the very worst you should just be able to quit the app and reload your game
Ah yep I see what ya mean. Or still gets in the way kinda. But I’m getting used to it and had to restart the game a couple times cos of some glitches. But hey it’s only a few days old 🤪 loving the dog 😁👌 he’s also got the same name as my dog 🥰 I’m not sure how to use the stuff I collect to refill my health. But I guess that comes later on when ya learn how to make meds n stuff
Well at least vertigo 2 is guaranteed to be incredible. I’ve already played half of it and it’s one of my all time favorite VR games ever along with the quest version of RE4 so the VR Remake and Vertigo 2 will 100% prevent this from being another disappointing wealth of releases.
Yeah but did you play it on the psvr2? I've been forced to admit that these games are often just some sort of quest port handled by a totally different company. After having purchased the much underpowered quest 3, I realize just how poorly our PSVR 2 games are ported.
Time is Moving so Slowly atm 😆
Im just relieved there is manual reloading.
What button do i press to even go to the menu when its saying on the screen "watch for your surroundings". Im pressing everything it just doesnt work
Are you able to point at the OK button?
@@WithoutParole yes, im looking at it so it turns grey, i point at it with my controllers but nothing happens
Ugh very on the fence with this game, especially after seeing the review
I'll probably just get Arashi instead. Any game that can run on the Quest 2 is going to be limited.
Arashi is on Quest as well. PSVR underground is not impressed with it.
@@twatinahatsmith7428 I know it is, but that game is $20 cheaper. If the reviews for that are bad I won't get either of them.
Both of these games are bad/mid st best. Wouldn't suggest supporting them rn
@@rangernubxx Unfortunately it looks like that's the case. At least RE4 is coming.
@rangernubxx No one is really saying that Arizona Sunshine 2 is bad. It's just that it isn't priced accordingly for what it offers. Overpriced, above-average game.