I love how brutally honest yet self-deprecating Misha is of himself. It brings a sort of humbleness to the stage. It's a good quality. I think everyone should equally bad and equally good opinion of themselves, such as here.
@panamanian911 Im not saying they are bad, i was just saying its a general rule i have for myself and for my style specifically, honestly there are no rules when it comes to music, so you should do whatever sounds good to you haha!
To everyone complaining: yeah, he doesn't explain things like a music teacher would, but he knows what he's doing. Clearly demonstrating what a natural guitarist he is. Link me to YOUR Guitar World column, and maybe i'll listen to what you have to say.
@BenjaminLOfficial he's uses axefx, its a digital amp thats absolutely amazing sounding. They don't even use cabs, just plug straight into the pa system. Look it up, pretty cool.
I didn't say his music is garbage, it is just not as good as Misha's, comparatively. Trust me, I understand Tosin's music.. but good music is not about technique, skill, complexity, odd-meter, speed, or anything like that, (although those are important things) it is about creating something organic, and unexpected, that sounds and feels incredible to listen to, despite it being extremely easy, or difficult to perform. It's not how much you say, it is about how it affects the listener inside.
@MrSlayergod88 The most important thing about music theory is not for writing, but understand what you're writing so you can repeat the same idea again. It's best for analysis. But theory helps you when you don't "feel" the next note or resolution: you have the rules to rely on and move from there.
@cycon0 I definitely agree with you but I would go to argue that the more you know or are taught expands what you can do with your feeling, no matter what. The more you understand scales, shapes, picking styles, tapping, theory, dynamic, sound etc. : the better you are equipped to portray your feelings.
@caesar09 I can agree in some cases, it really latches on to you though, especially with a full band. Since djent came around no one has come close to perfecting the style as good as Meshuggah, but Periphery is close up there. I can respect Misha for what he does, as bizarre as it might be to a more traditionally trained musician.
@MrSlayergod88 But knowing which notes and which frets link together to make a melody help you write creatively because giving yourself limitations forces you, (at least it forces me) to be as creative as possible within those guidelines. If i'm still not happy with what i wrote, i split the chords i'm using to get a broader range of scales and notes i can use. This goes the other way too, knowing what i'm playing i know where i can go to sound good. IE more time to explore the things that work
knowing theory isn't a disadvantage at all. it allows you to understand what you're doing and doesn't necessarily make you less experimental. agree with you BaronGhede
@MrSlayergod88 I agree with your statement to some point, but theory definately does help with song writing along with solo writing. Obviously it is not a necessity, though.
@MrSlayergod88 Very true, Ive left the guitar for a while to focus on my creativity that's in my opinion the best advice someone can give , to learn to have fun with it , to not be afraid of making mistakes or wanting to make everything perfect... overall working on your individuality and self esteem will lead you to better decision making which will not only help you on guitar but in life, Think on your own otherwise u will destroy your creative imagination, have fun inventing.
Awwww, its almost like he's trying to speak a foreign language. He has such creativity in his head and such a unique style, but he finds it difficult to express or explain what he is doing musically :)
@cycon0 I agree with everything you said, except i just thought i should point out that it's not theory as in "I think there may be aliens", it's a theory as in a scientific one. Such as the theory of evolution, it's not just something someone made up out of nowhere
@elisprague people have this misconception that music theory is just a set of arbitrary rules. no. music theory came when people said "ok, we know this sounds good, lets try to understand WHY" thats all it is. the science of music essentially.
Music theory, is just that. A theory. A thought on how things in music are explained, and or should be done. What if I have my own theory? Music is feeling, and emotion. There is no explaining that or forcing that. To people who care about the theory involved, instead of bitching in a comment about a video that was shot already, keep listening and use your brain to provide the theory. Don't knock someone for not knowing it, some people just do what they do well regardless of "teachings".
I'm pretty sure Misha would agree with him, Tosin is obviously a better guitarist, I mean I like Periphery more than AAL, but Tosin's playing is on another level.
It's got loads of theory in this. You do have to know your stuff to be able to write different poly rhythms and time signatures like this. To see how they would fit together. I understand your point though. No boundaries :)
@MrSlayergod88 Opinion matters to me! haha I'm trying to learn guitar myself, but can't afford lessons. Anything you can recommend for me or websites that help? Thanks a lot.
@MrSlayergod88 while i agree with you, theory can be a huge help for people that can get trapped in boxes. and if you know how to use modes, scales, etc and ETC you can really make amazing music AND know how you're doing it. Even if you don't know how you're making a sound when you write it, theory helps you figure it out, which in turn will make working with other musicians and producers a hell of a lot easier. so i agree with you, but at the same time i don't :P
@MrSlayergod88 "You've got to learn your instrument. Then, you practice, practice, practice. And then, when you finally get up there on the bandstand, forget all that and just wail." - Charlie Parker
@elisprague he is resorting to it. but it is intuitive.. excellent genius musicians such as mozart just heard certain progressions and then they used the theory they were born with to calculate the rest. this guy is a musical genius
@cycon0 Yes, but music theory explains why certain things sound harmonic and why others sound very dissonant, whether you like it or not. Gravity is a "theory" but there's no denying it really...I agree with your general notion that music theory shouldn't be followed mindlessly, but there's no harm done in knowing some.
@MrSlayergod88 I agree, but a bit of Theory does help. Learning theory won't make you any less creative unless you play nothing but scales. Don't shun theory, but don't dedicate to using it either.
Actually, people use theory and not even realize it. One of the basic ones most players know of any instrument is that one note can sound exactly like another note. Music Theory isn't required, but it is pretty handy. I even bet Mansoor himself peaks a few pages of Music Theory now and then.
Well you have harmonic theory which provides chord progressions of various types so you could just write chords following harmonic theory of the style you want to compose in. Contrapuntal theory, which when combined with harmony, can just give you melodies without much creativity. Theory doesn't only give names to things but describes musical styles so that in order to achieve a sound, if you have the theoretical knowledge you don't need to reinvent the wheel everytime with analysis.
@metachozoite Since credentials matter to you I'll point out that I've been learning music theory since I was 5, and have spent many years in education dedicated entirely to music, so that's now 20 years of music education under my belt and a number of qualifications including a degree. Realise that music theory is really nothing more than the language to convey musical concepts, and that music can be understood without knowing the language...
@MrSlayergod88 But sometimes knowing theory can help spark the creative juices. I know with my writing, I like to know what is going on. It doesn't hinder my creativity at all. If it wasn't for theory, I don't think any of the music I have written would exist.
@metachozoite I hope you're happy with burst of words, and that you still, in all of those words, couldn't put anything that appealed to reason, and something to which I could say- You're right! I always find that's worth to have a talk with everybody, but I see that you prefer to let things enter in one of your ears and exit on the other one, so I hope this discussion ends here. I hope you the best o luck, and I value that you too work to live your life!
In my opinion everyone should know theory and have chops. And everyone should know how to throw them out the window when needed. Sometimes things make no sense theoretically and they just sound cool. And sometimes things need to be sloppy or else it feels flat and stale. They're both totally important tricks to have in your bag. And music will be easier to create if you have both. Regardless of whether you decide to use them or not.
@peoplesnyukka3 I feel the less you know, the more creative you are. I know very little about the theory ( obviously, you pick some up along the way) but I feel that the more you know, the more in depth you become in dissecting music. I play Prog Rock, a lot of time sig changes and ambient sounds, but i just play what i believe feels right. that's just my way of seeing it, and i'm not saying that you're wrong, i'm just expressing an opinion that works for some people.
...and not necessarily something to satisfy your or the listeners needs. Tosin gets his kicks out of playing the way he does and experimenting with that, and the same thing goes some others that in your opinion might right something more powerful, but you simply can't say that his musical approach is a wrong one, because it does not satisfy you. Or are you telling me that Tosin, or any other artist should try to always think about an audience, when that simply isn't his cause.
It's impossible to "resort to theory" when writing. Just as you can't "resort to using the alphabet" when talking to someone. The alphabet can't tell you what to say, but it can always be used to write it down, and every word you say can be written down regardless of whether you know how to spell or not. That's exactly what theory is. Theory will always have a name for every damn chord, note or scale you can come up with. But that's all it does. It can't force you to do anything.
"Again, a bunch of notes that have no idea what they are doing with each other, but they sound cool"
I like that guy
I guess that's why he doesn't have the dots on his frets :D
he has them on top of the neck in 3, 5, 7, 9, etc
I love how brutally honest yet self-deprecating Misha is of himself. It brings a sort of humbleness to the stage. It's a good quality. I think everyone should equally bad and equally good opinion of themselves, such as here.
I love the honesty, " not great at alt picking" so cool that that lead you to this technique !!!
@panamanian911 Im not saying they are bad, i was just saying its a general rule i have for myself and for my style specifically, honestly there are no rules when it comes to music, so you should do whatever sounds good to you haha!
That tip about hitting every note as a hammer on when tapping is quite clever. I learned something today :)
To everyone complaining: yeah, he doesn't explain things like a music teacher would, but he knows what he's doing. Clearly demonstrating what a natural guitarist he is. Link me to YOUR Guitar World column, and maybe i'll listen to what you have to say.
That being said, Misha is an phenomenal musician and this is a cool lesson.
@BenjaminLOfficial he's uses axefx, its a digital amp thats absolutely amazing sounding. They don't even use cabs, just plug straight into the pa system. Look it up, pretty cool.
Opened my eyes a bit. I try to ALT pick too much and I'm not very good at it myself.
I didn't say his music is garbage, it is just not as good as Misha's, comparatively. Trust me, I understand Tosin's music.. but good music is not about technique, skill, complexity, odd-meter, speed, or anything like that, (although those are important things) it is about creating something organic, and unexpected, that sounds and feels incredible to listen to, despite it being extremely easy, or difficult to perform. It's not how much you say, it is about how it affects the listener inside.
@Blagaquondo probably
@amjan The same chromatic scale? What other chromatic scale are you playing?
@MrSlayergod88 The most important thing about music theory is not for writing, but understand what you're writing so you can repeat the same idea again. It's best for analysis. But theory helps you when you don't "feel" the next note or resolution: you have the rules to rely on and move from there.
which is the background sound?
Cual es el tema de fondo?
Only 130k views... 10 years.... im not a fan of perophery but i do like misha....
@cycon0 I definitely agree with you but I would go to argue that the more you know or are taught expands what you can do with your feeling, no matter what. The more you understand scales, shapes, picking styles, tapping, theory, dynamic, sound etc. : the better you are equipped to portray your feelings.
@caesar09 I can agree in some cases, it really latches on to you though, especially with a full band. Since djent came around no one has come close to perfecting the style as good as Meshuggah, but Periphery is close up there. I can respect Misha for what he does, as bizarre as it might be to a more traditionally trained musician.
@MrSlayergod88 But knowing which notes and which frets link together to make a melody help you write creatively because giving yourself limitations forces you, (at least it forces me) to be as creative as possible within those guidelines. If i'm still not happy with what i wrote, i split the chords i'm using to get a broader range of scales and notes i can use.
This goes the other way too, knowing what i'm playing i know where i can go to sound good. IE more time to explore the things that work
Whether you choose to play "in the box" is up to you... but to be an efficient and successful composer, nothing is more invaluable than theory.
What's the song in the beginning of the video?
@EntityAudio I believe he's using Bare Knuckle Aftermaths but I could be mistaken.
04:21. that's Destrage - Destroy Create Transform Sublimate, so awesome XD
@MrSlayergod88 I've heard this before ! the breaking the rules and stuff part.. was that Guthrie?
knowing theory isn't a disadvantage at all. it allows you to understand what you're doing and doesn't necessarily make you less experimental. agree with you BaronGhede
What guitar does he use? It looks sweet.
@MrSlayergod88 I agree with your statement to some point, but theory definately does help with song writing along with solo writing. Obviously it is not a necessity, though.
Does his pickups seem close together?
He's using BKP aftermaths in this Bernie Rico Jr. right?
I'm not sure if he had created his juggernaut set yet, so they may be aftermaths.
@@KFieLdGaming yh this was waay before, idk tho apparently he used to use a bkp nailbomb in the bridge and painkiller in the neck
@smashingpoop drop D, then downtune all strings a further two frets, so low to high it's CGCFAD
@MrSlayergod88 Very true, Ive left the guitar for a while to focus on my creativity that's in my opinion the best advice someone can give , to learn to have fun with it , to not be afraid of making mistakes or wanting to make everything perfect... overall working on your individuality and self esteem will lead you to better decision making which will not only help you on guitar but in life, Think on your own otherwise u will destroy your creative imagination, have fun inventing.
Awwww, its almost like he's trying to speak a foreign language. He has such creativity in his head and such a unique style, but he finds it difficult to express or explain what he is doing musically :)
@ShredST I'm playing the quarter-tone chromatic scale. :)
no, nothing is more valuable than inspiration, emotion and feeling
@metachozoite i think that was meant for the other guy. im a musician not an engineer. im horrible with all aspects of math
@cycon0 I agree with everything you said, except i just thought i should point out that it's not theory as in "I think there may be aliens", it's a theory as in a scientific one. Such as the theory of evolution, it's not just something someone made up out of nowhere
what metal band names their song buttersnips
this guitar tone is marvelous
is there a #3 part 2 ?
Does anyone have the tab for the tapping lick in the last part??
@elisprague people have this misconception that music theory is just a set of arbitrary rules. no. music theory came when people said "ok, we know this sounds good, lets try to understand WHY" thats all it is. the science of music essentially.
best guitar tone ive ever heard
@itscoolbro2 I think that's who I heard it from originally, man!
what's his tuning?
No, it's GuitarWorld because it's on every single guitar instruction video.
Music theory, is just that. A theory. A thought on how things in music are explained, and or should be done. What if I have my own theory? Music is feeling, and emotion. There is no explaining that or forcing that.
To people who care about the theory involved, instead of bitching in a comment about a video that was shot already, keep listening and use your brain to provide the theory. Don't knock someone for not knowing it, some people just do what they do well regardless of "teachings".
where is part 2?
What guitar is this ?
@barneycockburn This guy did Tosin's first album with him. Apparently Tosin doesn't think he's amateur and dumb.
2:39 It's not just random fretting, although you can do that if you want. Even that sounds good xD
@BenjaminLOfficial well you asked what they use, thought id help
2:23 Reminds me of Acid Rain by Liquid Tension Experiment.
LOVE PERIPHEY!!!!!
@elisprague But surely having half an idea of what youre doing is a bonus. The amount of time its taken him to break these riffs down proves it :P
I'm pretty sure Misha would agree with him, Tosin is obviously a better guitarist, I mean I like Periphery more than AAL, but Tosin's playing is on another level.
Tuning?
great tone.
It's got loads of theory in this. You do have to know your stuff to be able to write different poly rhythms and time signatures like this. To see how they would fit together. I understand your point though. No boundaries :)
@MrSlayergod88 do you not know what accidentals are? boxes are for people who don't know theory.
@MrSlayergod88 Opinion matters to me! haha I'm trying to learn guitar myself, but can't afford lessons. Anything you can recommend for me or websites that help? Thanks a lot.
@metalphuck666 Damn! You figured me out haha! So far it seems to be working well though!
i love to see GW's videos before they upload properly
@MrSlayergod88 while i agree with you, theory can be a huge help for people that can get trapped in boxes. and if you know how to use modes, scales, etc and ETC you can really make amazing music AND know how you're doing it. Even if you don't know how you're making a sound when you write it, theory helps you figure it out, which in turn will make working with other musicians and producers a hell of a lot easier.
so i agree with you, but at the same time i don't :P
kinda surprised he doesn't know his theory that good. He comes up with very creative licks
2:40 when the bees start attacking you
what kind of guitar is that?
A Bernie Rico Jr. custom guitar. He's the son of the founder of BC Rich, but I think the shop has closed down recently.
@MrSlayergod88 Page Hamilton?
@MrSlayergod88 Charile Parker said something exactly like that, but applying to learning every aspect of your instrument. And it's a true story, brah.
Bulb is a God. Fucking love this guy.
more Misha !
@MrSlayergod88 "You've got to learn your instrument. Then, you practice, practice, practice. And then, when you finally get up there on the bandstand, forget all that and just wail." - Charlie Parker
@Tordah26 he just really likes gates and compressors! ;)
thank YOU MAN!
@Periphery Yeah, I understand.
@elisprague he is resorting to it. but it is intuitive.. excellent genius musicians such as mozart just heard certain progressions and then they used the theory they were born with to calculate the rest.
this guy is a musical genius
@cycon0 Yes, but music theory explains why certain things sound harmonic and why others sound very dissonant, whether you like it or not. Gravity is a "theory" but there's no denying it really...I agree with your general notion that music theory shouldn't be followed mindlessly, but there's no harm done in knowing some.
@MrSlayergod88 I agree, but a bit of Theory does help. Learning theory won't make you any less creative unless you play nothing but scales.
Don't shun theory, but don't dedicate to using it either.
This is how music was born, some one who didn't resort to theory to write.
@PeaceDisturber He's holding it in a way that's comfortable to him and works. Now leave him alone and play your guitar.
Actually, people use theory and not even realize it. One of the basic ones most players know of any instrument is that one note can sound exactly like another note. Music Theory isn't required, but it is pretty handy. I even bet Mansoor himself peaks a few pages of Music Theory now and then.
Misha: so a bunch of octaves that i don't have any idea what they're doing each other but they sound cool
Well you have harmonic theory which provides chord progressions of various types so you could just write chords following harmonic theory of the style you want to compose in. Contrapuntal theory, which when combined with harmony, can just give you melodies without much creativity. Theory doesn't only give names to things but describes musical styles so that in order to achieve a sound, if you have the theoretical knowledge you don't need to reinvent the wheel everytime with analysis.
@metachozoite Since credentials matter to you I'll point out that I've been learning music theory since I was 5, and have spent many years in education dedicated entirely to music, so that's now 20 years of music education under my belt and a number of qualifications including a degree.
Realise that music theory is really nothing more than the language to convey musical concepts, and that music can be understood without knowing the language...
@MrSlayergod88 But sometimes knowing theory can help spark the creative juices. I know with my writing, I like to know what is going on. It doesn't hinder my creativity at all. If it wasn't for theory, I don't think any of the music I have written would exist.
GREAT NOISEGATE ON MICROPHONE, GUYS.
@Scarbak123 "Gate EVERYTHING!" - Bulb five minutes before this interview.
@metachozoite I hope you're happy with burst of words, and that you still, in all of those words, couldn't put anything that appealed to reason, and something to which I could say- You're right! I always find that's worth to have a talk with everybody, but I see that you prefer to let things enter in one of your ears and exit on the other one, so I hope this discussion ends here. I hope you the best o luck, and I value that you too work to live your life!
In my opinion everyone should know theory and have chops. And everyone should know how to throw them out the window when needed. Sometimes things make no sense theoretically and they just sound cool. And sometimes things need to be sloppy or else it feels flat and stale.
They're both totally important tricks to have in your bag. And music will be easier to create if you have both. Regardless of whether you decide to use them or not.
@hobbesismycat
He has 27 frets
@peoplesnyukka3 I feel the less you know, the more creative you are. I know very little about the theory ( obviously, you pick some up along the way) but I feel that the more you know, the more in depth you become in dissecting music. I play Prog Rock, a lot of time sig changes and ambient sounds, but i just play what i believe feels right. that's just my way of seeing it, and i'm not saying that you're wrong, i'm just expressing an opinion that works for some people.
I have the same cable as him.. Wow
"Just a bunch of notes that I have no idea what they have to do with each other, but they sound cool"
Hahaha. Oh, Bulb.
...and not necessarily something to satisfy your or the listeners needs. Tosin gets his kicks out of playing the way he does and experimenting with that, and the same thing goes some others that in your opinion might right something more powerful, but you simply can't say that his musical approach is a wrong one, because it does not satisfy you. Or are you telling me that Tosin, or any other artist should try to always think about an audience, when that simply isn't his cause.
I have the same strap at Misha.
It's Rebecca black "it's Friday" on a guitar world instuctional
2:23 Acid Rain intro - Liquid tension experiment
That noise gate is set on 'kill'.....
This is in drop C, but he changes it from song to song.
It's impossible to "resort to theory" when writing. Just as you can't "resort to using the alphabet" when talking to someone. The alphabet can't tell you what to say, but it can always be used to write it down, and every word you say can be written down regardless of whether you know how to spell or not. That's exactly what theory is. Theory will always have a name for every damn chord, note or scale you can come up with. But that's all it does. It can't force you to do anything.
Nice vid.......i could tell that you worked on not saying like so much.....great job!!!
of course this is how music was born. there WAS no theory to resort to!