Misha Mansoor: The Djent Set #5 (Part 1)

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  • @OrlandoAponte
    @OrlandoAponte 9 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    For those curious, the theoretical basis of Icarus lives is alternating between the minor and major third. This concept was frequently explored by classical composers in the late 19th/early 20th century as a means of expressing ambiguity and conflict. A more recent and salient example is the Fallout 3 main theme, in which it's very easy to identify. In the beginning of Icarus Lives, the riff moves from the minor third to the major third frequently, but later on the motif is reversed, most notably when Spencer sings the word "history" on the last syllable, he descends in to a minor third melismatically.

    • @jamespeterson4275
      @jamespeterson4275 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +AbsoluteZ3R0 DUDE YES
      FINALLY
      SOMEONE ELSE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE LATE ROMANTIC CONNECTION TO MISHAS WRITING.
      I wanna give you a high five lol
      Those tonal relations are probably the reason Racecar, Buttersnips, Ow My Feelings, Zero, Froggin & All New Materials have my favorite Periphery moments in them and are ALL in the pantheon of my favorite songs ever.
      That exact moment where Sponce sings "historaaaaaaaaaa-aaay" is the climax of that whole song for me too.
      So inspirational on how I write. In fact some of the bichordal close harmonies in the middle of Buttersnips where all 3 guitars are utilized to play all the notes of a tonic triad and relative dominant triad simultaneously at the end of the riff cycle was the startring point by which I wrote an entire original piece on piano called "Astral Fabric". I really ought to upload that on my channel ahah.
      Sucks theres only the occasional Periph song thatll come out to tickle my fancy in that way ever since post-debut album tho. Omegas title track certainly did tho.
      UMF
      So good.
      Hoping you see this lol. I like talking about dorky theory stuff :P

    • @rowrow-uo8ei
      @rowrow-uo8ei 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +James Peterson fun fact, Misha plays by ear and knows little to no theory.

    • @blunty6feetunder
      @blunty6feetunder 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Juan Sanchez This is what I was thinking while reading the previous comments. He basically hasn't studied theory yet he's writing songs that have complex theory in them. That's kinda mind blowing and gives me some hope about my guitar skills since I also know very little theory.

    • @sw4712
      @sw4712 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      wonderful comments thanks.

    • @sw4712
      @sw4712 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Juan Sanchez ZigZag
      theory tries to describe what we create from the ethers of our hearts and minds. no need for theory to explore or create music. theory just helps explain what we do.
      theory can help you explore if you want to use it as a map of the known. thats all

  • @chvideo12
    @chvideo12 10 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    the strap is driving me crazy

    • @BootyMetrocop
      @BootyMetrocop 10 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Now when you mentioned it -__-

    • @nmjdfbjq
      @nmjdfbjq 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      OCD kicking in buddy?

    • @eulyyyb
      @eulyyyb 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im fucking cringing

    • @lukamarkac6706
      @lukamarkac6706 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      lucian pls

    • @dvineel12
      @dvineel12 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Need Support add me on leeg
      pls

  • @DihColorado
    @DihColorado 13 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i REALLY like the way Misha sees the guitar as an instrument, and its different possibilities based not so much on theory, but rather on pure creativity. its all bout feeling and instincts.
    really good player this guy is

  • @DE-kn3tk
    @DE-kn3tk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I believe the scale is in djentolian.

    • @hoggboyy
      @hoggboyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not trying to be pretentious but technically djentolian is a mode, not a scale.

    • @eted2
      @eted2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's actually the min000000r scale

  • @joshuasalgado4694
    @joshuasalgado4694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This song will forever hold a special place in my heart. Before this or Triviums almighty shogun, I had no idea 7 strings even existed. This definitely broke me out of that comfort zone and into a whole new territory. Thanks for sick riffs misha!

  • @ryanprivitera3019
    @ryanprivitera3019 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    When he was showing the basic notes of the song 2:03 - 2:06 it sounds like the intro to rainbow gravity

  • @jonathanandersson4003
    @jonathanandersson4003 9 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Too much noise gate imo...
    On his voice, that is.

  • @JamesTeekel
    @JamesTeekel 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like that he gives you advice on how to write your own stuff. Makes his lessons quite interesting.

  • @calebmolenda9588
    @calebmolenda9588 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love how he doesn't understand if it's in a scale; obviously wrote it by ear. Gives hope for the other people who haven't learned theory!

    • @fabiovera7956
      @fabiovera7956 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but he knows scales a little i think jeje

  • @Valentineskidd
    @Valentineskidd 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's right. Ah, but if you have seen the Some Kind Of Monster film, James was using an ESP 7 string so maybe he used that?

  • @ELHXNDOMUSIC
    @ELHXNDOMUSIC 11 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Noise gate voice.. why is this..?

  • @Ureyeuh
    @Ureyeuh 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:08 "I don't know if that's a particular scale or not.." God I love that Guitar World has somebody good doing lessons and columns that isn't a theory wizard...

  • @HEADBANGBALLER
    @HEADBANGBALLER 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No shit! I was thinking the same thing when he said "...tuned to A flat..." To keep any kind of tension on the string, the gauge of the low E must be 70's or higher. I think C sharp is the lowest that sounds good to me. Anything lower is so muddy and thick.

  • @JerkyChid
    @JerkyChid 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @megaluisdeth
    The term comes from the sound of the palm mutes "djent djent" instead of "chug chug"

  • @inuyasha10333
    @inuyasha10333 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the guitar! Bernie Rico JR Jekyll 7 string right?

  • @TheChrispablo
    @TheChrispablo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the ESP was used for the song "Some Kind Of Monster" kinda silly, cuz´ it´s tuned drop C with an added high d....but invisible kid was played with a 6 string baritone (you can see james n kirk using them while playing the song at the rehearsal) and it´s Metallica, so they can tune their guitars whatever the fuck they want^^

  • @PeteMetropoulos
    @PeteMetropoulos 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ROCKTROPOLIS is a progressive rock band that is like a volcano ready to explode upon your ears. Members include guitarist ROCKTROPOLIS, Bassist and Keyboardist Sam Metropoulos and Drummer Marc Stemmler. Influences are Dream Theater, Rush, Yngwie, Yes, Deep Purple and Iron Maiden to name a few.

  • @MrORLY
    @MrORLY 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't agree more, they go hand in hand so well. If you know nothing about theory and you start a riff only to get to a point were you don't know where to go next, that's wheen theory comes into play. You know your theory, you know what notes work with that and where they are, from there you go with what you find sounds best

  • @matthadam
    @matthadam 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, I'm sure someone will have said already, but what is the opening 14 seconds from? Pretty tasty riff! Thanks in advance to anyone that knows.

    • @skidmark6553
      @skidmark6553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      buttersnips

    • @matthadam
      @matthadam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@skidmark6553- I reckon I must have discovered it was Buttersnips like 1-2 months after I watched this video, but I appreciate the response nonetheless. 🤝
      Man, first watched this 12 years ago. 🥲 Time flies!

  • @skaladeritcher666
    @skaladeritcher666 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah!
    Just because I don't use drop or open tuning, I use Standar B tuning, but the 7th is on F# to make it more low and heavy
    With 7 strings, I use just like it got 8, but don't count the 1st string as B

  • @krajnovic10
    @krajnovic10 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DYZSYX yes they are in the bridge i think its a crunch lab but not sure in the neck

  • @ThatGamerKidHD
    @ThatGamerKidHD 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @G0re0bsessed Well actually if you think about it its correct. Both Dubstep and Djent are heavily focused on instrumentals.

  • @jamesgerth4471
    @jamesgerth4471 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Gotta love that modesty. Very awesome guy.

  • @againstallpractices
    @againstallpractices 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @wydfarasprophecy from what i can tell, in this video he's in drop G#/Ab, which would be G#-Eb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-Eb, which is like being in Eb standard with the regular 6 strings and on the extra 7th having it dropped a whole step. so its like the tuning you said, just all of the notes dropped a half step. but if you tune all 7 strings down one whole step, youd have A-D-G-C-F-A-D, so dropping it would make drop G G-D-G-C-F-A-D. hope this helped and wasnt too confusing =)

  • @Blizzard56k
    @Blizzard56k 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    syncopation includes a variety of rhythms which are in some way unexpected in that they deviate from the strict succession of regularly spaced strong and weak but also powerful beats in a meter.

  • @ejemplo654321
    @ejemplo654321 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whats the brand of the guitar?

  • @keeelane
    @keeelane 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Karnivool09 i think when i first heard of meshuggah it was labeled as something like "math metal" or "technical metal" or whatever. groove metal meant something different like kyuss or whatever.

  • @BLUEScrazy
    @BLUEScrazy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ZorakSpaceGhost imo something mediumish gauge, usually when i play this kinda stuff i dont want the strings to be too thin otherwise they wobble around and you cant control them, but at the same time when they're too thick you won't be able to pick as hard and make the "snapping" sound important in djent, if that makes sense; but its up to you really just experiment and record yourself playing diff gauges and see which one sounds most djenty but like i said imo something medium is nice

  • @Luginiguitars
    @Luginiguitars 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This cool guy is really giving something to new generations of guitar players..! Keep it up misha!!

  • @bubanksy
    @bubanksy 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this video, he's using the John Petrucci pickups, the CrunchLab/LiquiFire. Otherwise, I've seen him use Bareknuckles (Which are better but more expensive)

  • @MrCovers101
    @MrCovers101 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the notes are in A harmonic minor. Possibly? Because he's grooving around the seventh degree of the scale maybe that's where the dark and evil sound comes from.

  • @BLUEScrazy
    @BLUEScrazy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gmoney101392 things in gp wont have the original 'flavor' because its a computer simulating the accents and stuff; ofc that's provided you haven't made mistake with the tabbing. if it is indeed an issue with the tabbing, try singing the riff while clapping your hands; then just work it out :) also depending on the song your riff may or may not fit into the 4/4, for example lots of messhugah drums are in 4/4 but the guitars aren't, BUT you still write it out in 4/4; hope i answered your question

  • @swishsplash
    @swishsplash 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude scales are super easy to learn and massive help when you write songs

  • @jacobgun
    @jacobgun 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @NoaOno some tuners (specifically zoom products) for some time only had tuners that would read in sharps and not flats. examble: if i went half step from standard E it wouldn't read as Eb it would show up as D#.

  • @jangel214
    @jangel214 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what pick-ups is that on the bridge? i really love the sound of it.... :D

  • @NJAS1991
    @NJAS1991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why use a floyd rose setup without actually making use of the floyd, why not just use a fixed bridge/hardtail? Im confused

  • @nothinwatever
    @nothinwatever 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally just keep that first riff on repeat I'm basically addicted to it sooo much feeeeellll uhggg

  • @guitaraddict42
    @guitaraddict42 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @GreenDayRockout he uses them in his white bernie rico guitar but in this one hes using a dimarzio crunchlab

  • @thebloodychord
    @thebloodychord 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like his guitar. I wonder what brand it is.

  • @thehside
    @thehside 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @avenegedslaterfold He's also featured on the cover of this month's Moccha Emporium, How cool is that for a debut?!

  • @shockdoctor1992
    @shockdoctor1992 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheTurk92 its his custom made bernie rico jr 7 string

  • @Ureyeuh
    @Ureyeuh 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Well, I don't really know what else to say. I'll just keep reminding everyone that I'm bending and using this picking style to create riffs that I crafted into a song." There is no way I could put this concept into any more detail than Misha is. Props.

  • @EduardoBach01
    @EduardoBach01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where this guitar tune would be situated in a piano, I mean octave wise?

  • @LarsBauer74
    @LarsBauer74 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    what's the song that plays right at the start of the clip, before the actual workshop begins? Is that a Periphery tune?

  • @OndskapensHersker
    @OndskapensHersker 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder why they put so much reverb on his guitar sound, you can hear that it's not the natural reverb from the room he's sitting in.

  • @SoundMusicVideo
    @SoundMusicVideo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guitar World Guitar Lessons !
    Loving all the new music video
    Epic quality also by the way

  •  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    intro song: Periphery - Buttersnips

  • @cobyourself
    @cobyourself 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which brand made this guitar? I mean the headstock is just miraculous.

  • @JohnNT
    @JohnNT 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @njegos88 ...yes, as it's played on just one string. Would be strange if he needed 2.

  • @wydfarasprophecy
    @wydfarasprophecy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok if i take a 7 string and tune it down a whole step the lowest string is already "a". if you drop that it should be g-flat, shouldn't it?

  • @SynMusique
    @SynMusique 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    4:07 what is he saying? I have my boobs?!!!

    • @eonaiben
      @eonaiben 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Sayan Sengupta I think he said: "I have my BULB" (his signature model)

    • @6666nelson6666
      @6666nelson6666 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Sayan Sengupta my Move***

  • @Valentineskidd
    @Valentineskidd 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's a little factoid for y'all.
    Metallica has used this tuning that Misha is using in this video. Anyone guess which song it was?

  • @superkid5647isweird
    @superkid5647isweird 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fuck man, I want that tone without spending the money on an AxeFx.

  • @BrutalCover
    @BrutalCover 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does he get this crunchy sound? like around 0:30-0:40 ... please only answer if you really know what you are saying, thx !

  • @BraveMavrick
    @BraveMavrick 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    great to see a seven string lesson, this song rocks

  • @mluengo_sl
    @mluengo_sl 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dj0nt plz

  • @JerkyChid
    @JerkyChid 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @RougeFugitive
    Bernie Rico Jr Jekel. Bernie Jr is the son of Bernardo Chavez Rico sr, the founder of BCR

  • @Kefford666
    @Kefford666 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if that's a crunch lab 7 pick up he's using? As i'm thinking of getting one

  • @ZorakSpaceGhost
    @ZorakSpaceGhost 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    What bridge pickup is he using? Anyone know. Im gonna start playing djent styles on a 6 string... ANy string thickness you guys recommend.

  • @yikmop
    @yikmop 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Route8Productions I think it might be a Decimator Pedal or something, very annoying! :C

  • @GreenDayRockout
    @GreenDayRockout 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Misha still using aftermath bareknuckle pickups?

  • @Meshuggahfication
    @Meshuggahfication 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @aki010 what is there to under stand about meshuggah its always in 4/4

  • @DylanSpero
    @DylanSpero 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @LOSKARE it's basically a rhythm created by focusing on a certain beat, hard to explain, but easy to understand when you hear it.

  • @gmoney101392
    @gmoney101392 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    question for anyone out there
    say i make a riff just messing around how do i figure out what time signature i'm playing in? when i go to put it in guitar pro which is auto 4/4 my stuff always looses something and never has the original 'flavor' that i give when playing it myself. I understand what time sig is but i just need to know how to label a time sig am i making any sense? xD

  • @johnathandk42134
    @johnathandk42134 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MrAmbidex1 i didnt say misha used bc rich guitars, and what brand do you use thats so much better than bc rich?

  • @mordecai52005
    @mordecai52005 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have the same hook/claw pinky on my picking hand while i play too!

  • @intwernet
    @intwernet 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy seems to be a chill-out type, plus he play nice music, I think he knows what he is doing.

  • @adrian3012
    @adrian3012 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone knows something about his strings gauge in this tuning ? thx !

  • @LeapingDodo
    @LeapingDodo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video about the bends. it is turkish scale. also known as the 24 note scale.
    He uses awesome scales without knowing it. Because awesome comes natural.

  • @tomattosfutleimierda
    @tomattosfutleimierda 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    witch pickups do you use ? , you could get a better sound in the low end

  • @Cambrand
    @Cambrand 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the camera mic could use more noise gate.

  • @WolfTheMadMan
    @WolfTheMadMan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    "It sounds positively huge in my opinion". I don't know why but that fucking cracks me up. i've never thought of the sound of very heavy set power chords as sounding huge. I like that.

  • @colemanmb
    @colemanmb 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Kmac2021 Technically it's the tone since Djent is an onomatopoeia for the tonal quality of the guitar. Staccato is the picking style.

  • @TylerNOS386277
    @TylerNOS386277 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    well 1 its majorly due to just the tuning. Even if u had everything exactly the same,if you dont have those thick strings & low tuning u wont get that right vibration he has. After that, simply alota gain gives it alota that sharp-to-the-ear crunch. Beyond that, it just comes down to pedals. Even with cheaper pedals, theres So much more there than ppl know because each sound can be tweaked like Crazy. So if you have a more expensive "mother board" pedal, the possibilities are near endless.

  • @Oyhus
    @Oyhus 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does he play riffs from Catch Thirtythree and Nothing?

  • @brotherhoodofsteel75
    @brotherhoodofsteel75 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love his tone! It's very original!

  • @DontPieceMe221
    @DontPieceMe221 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't need to know a lot of theory to write music like they do. It really comes down to having a good ear for melody, being able to choose notes that sound good together. You need to know how to count too, obviously.

  • @Maason15666
    @Maason15666 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheTurk92 It's a Bernie Rico Jr. I believe.

  • @wetotheetotheztotheo
    @wetotheetotheztotheo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    So can anyone tell me the full tuning?

  • @wetotheetotheztotheo
    @wetotheetotheztotheo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @konsco What is the b? So is it just AEADGBE?

  • @AtanasovPetar
    @AtanasovPetar 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @FISHFACEmatt Has Meshuggah feel to it and the same kind of bends like in Meshuggah-Rational gaze.

  • @ITs667
    @ITs667 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    notice how the intro to icarus lives is neurotica by meshuggah lol

  • @schecterguitar08
    @schecterguitar08 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone know the amp he is using in this video?

  • @sethboyd5684
    @sethboyd5684 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    your gat has no fret markers ill have to find the tab =(

  • @ChewbaccaFetus
    @ChewbaccaFetus 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want his guitar! seven string, natural wood color, awesome looking headstock, and the fact that its a bernie rico jr. !

  • @zKronious
    @zKronious 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the highest string ever used on Icarus Lives? I'm thinking about learning it on a 6 string, but downtuning the fuck out of my guitar wouldn't really work if all the strings are used :/

  • @InsanityType66
    @InsanityType66 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the intro song???

  • @tubeampsrule1
    @tubeampsrule1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    what song is playing in the intro?

  • @osnad
    @osnad 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Immersedx He's not overrated... he has a unique feel for rhythm, melody and music as a whole. D'uh - just because you're watching one of their easier songs.

  • @jangel214
    @jangel214 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TANTRUMENTAL oh....those pickups sounds great...

  • @DYZSYX
    @DYZSYX 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @UnconciousHippie i know he uses bareknuckles but somehow i think the bridge pickup looks like John Petrucci's dimarzio's

  • @RougeFugitive
    @RougeFugitive 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    What bc rich model guitar does he use??

  • @TheTurk92
    @TheTurk92 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the guitar he is using, anyone know?

  • @Freezaen
    @Freezaen 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Kmac2021 I absolutely and totally agree. It's all progressive and/or groove metal IMO.

  • @wydfarasprophecy
    @wydfarasprophecy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @againstallpractices i was confused by bulb's explanation, thank you!

  • @JohnGuitarSolo
    @JohnGuitarSolo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guitar World exclusive lesson !
    Cool beans ,
    God Bless America
    John

  • @Rahul82219
    @Rahul82219 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what processing his voice is going through. Compressor and noise-gate at least.

  • @thaddeusk
    @thaddeusk 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @pstlpwn In that djent is good but very trendy so you get a lot of crap mixed in with it?

  • @Dprod524
    @Dprod524 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone here know what kind of 7 string guitar that is ?!

  • @Dismal626
    @Dismal626 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @pstlpwn "I think Djent is the dubstep of heavy music." what? in what sense?