I left this place on the second training day, there was no way I was going to be selling $1000+ knifes to my relatives and friends that are struggling with money. I felt bad for this one girl that was there, she was really sad cause the dude told us to come with a list of people to call and she was the type that looked like she was an outcast. She had like 1 person and said she didn't got along with her family that well.
yeah if you dontn know people and have toxic family or something and dont have many friends wont work and even if u do like your soliciting to people you know and they lie to you on the application
I've worked for Cutco and I wouldn't say its a pure scam. But they do mislead people into joining their team. I was a secretary and my job was to read a script over the phone from a list of people who heard we were hiring (they're always hiring) and were interviewed the same day. The interviewer asks the interviewees to give a list of names with numbers of friends who they think might also need work. Those phone numbers go to my list and I would call them. I would tell them that the new hire, (your friend so and so) suggested they might need some extra work and were "recommended" to us. After mentioning there is no experience necessary since Vector will train you, the caller is willing to listen and continue the call with interest. That person who I'm on the phone with is desperate for work and thinks its the perfect job once we tell them that the job is a 16$ pay rate, BUT we DON"T mention its 'per appointment' UNLESS they ask. They don't comprehend this quickly enough to realize its not paid hourly. That means, you could be presenting your products to them for more than an hour. The secretaries are sure they got the caller in their grasp after hearing the excitement in his/her voice about the pay which results in immediate group hires. Everyday, there was a new group dressed in professional attire who arrived thinking this job was an important/fancy company who hired only business like people. The employer who is interviewing will hire ANYONE who applies. They will make it sound like your joining an important company but they will take anybody. The script they give the secretaries to read are constantly updated to persuade and manipulate the person we are calling to join the team and by making the job sound absolutely perfect but without lying to the caller and by keeping it vague. Our goal was to try to get people to come in for an interview the same day so we could get more names and numbers by the end of the day. Cutco/Vector gets new employees and money by interviewing a ton of people and advertising that they're hiring for 16$/hr on job sites like monster or indeed jobs, even flyers around campuses or colleges. During your interview, your asked to give the company some phone numbers of people who need a job (this happens all the same day) and we would call them to come in for an interview because they were "recommended" to us. They focus and aim for college students or high school graduates. Once hired, you give out even more names to your employer and he/she puts in the system for all the vector marketing secretaries from around United States to call. They even train the secretaries on voice tone, objections and have serious call conferences with other secretaries from around the nation. Not only that, but they go even further to give the secretaries homework/tests after the conferences to answer the test question. After every conference, which is Tuesday mornings at 10 am, we would have to email the answer to the question. Yes, I just quit this job recently because it didn't seem right. I felt like I was manipulating a person desperate for a job. Every time I made contact with someone I called and read the script word for word, I felt like I was misleading people into joining a job that's more like a door to door job and answering vaguely to questions my caller would ask. I never answered in detail by following the script. Even tho they say its not door to door or cold calling, it really is. Here is an example of the short version of the script: "Hi _____, my name is Melissa and I'm a secretary for Vector Marketing. I'm calling because ______ recommended you for a position to work in our company. You get paid 16$ per appointment. Its not based on commission but it has a commission opportunity." " That's just a small part of the script. They even have objection responses for those that are sketchy about the position or have a question. The client's question is NEVER answered in detail, its answered very vaguely. As far as purchasing from them, they are worth the money because the company keeps the knifes sharp and they are very very very good knifes. If your knifes break, the company will fix them for you and do everything they say they promised. They live up to their guarantee. The products are the highest quality you'll ever find in the United States, that's why they are so extremely expensive. After working there for a few months, I would say that there is nothing wrong with the product. The only problem I don't like about Vector is the way the company manipulates the people who are desperate for work. Most of the people I called were mothers looking for an easy job and they came to the interview very disappointed. I don't suggest working for them unless you LOVE being a salesman and your absolutely sure that the numbers you give to the company are customers looking for products to buy and friends who also like being a salesman. I remember calling people who the new hires gave numbers to us secretaries and 95 % of them asked me to stop calling them or would get offended for having that new hire "recommend" them to us because they were adults with already over paid jobs. Yes, the secretaries at Vector will be calling one number at least 3-5 times a week. For those that want to work for Vector: Here are the Pros and Cons I found.. Pros) They teach you great business and communication skills. After working with them, you feel like your better at handling business than any CEO ever could. The training is amazing and your fellow coworkers are very friendly and helpful. Its a social and professional feel. You gain useful skills like time management and social skills that most business students will die to learn. You gain not only skills but confidence in yourself after the first 2 days of training. Your an expert at knifes and kitchenware. You'll be able to become a powerful spokesman and excellent chef. I mention chef because they teach employees how to cut the food properly and efficiently under a manner of seconds for demonstrations to the customers. Cons) You will regret giving out the numbers from your friends who need a job because we will be calling them like a telemarketer would and they will be extremely annoyed. You will be calling your friends, friends of friends and relatives. These people will help you get even more numbers to call which will result in a huge list of numbers that belong to your friends parents, your friends of friends parents and so on. Somebody's parents. Basically on the phone ALL THE TIME! All day every day. Your not getting paid while on the phone, no overtime while presenting your product and you will not be paid for training which is about 3 days after you've been hired. Your practically a salesman, trying to sell things to your friends parents. Yes, parents only. No single adults but parents because the parents have money and moms always love new kitchen knifes. If your okay with calling a ton of people, presenting the product in your clients home no matter how long it may take and managing your own time, then you will do awesome at this company. Its not for everybody. But it does pay well if you work hard. No job is easy. All I'm gonna say to end this long review from working for Vector is if a job sounds too good to be true, it usually is. If you feel like you can do it, you can and there is nothing stopping you but yourself.
I was a manager, the only people that we don't hire are those that clearly have a negative attitude. You don't want one bad apple spoiling the bunch of your training class. I also didn't hire a girl that couldn't read...
Melissa Pratt The whole time I was there, I loved it. I promise you will see how valuable , informative and priceless the information you will learn. I worked at over 30 companies and this company is the best strategic experience I have ever received. Not to mention the perks. They have scholarships, and built resumes you can take with you your whole life. Also the way you get promoted and the ranks and price of pay ranges between how much you sell. 80 percent of people say it's a scam. Hell no it isn't. Take a look at the people who slander the company. They are very negative people with zero drive. I know millionaires that focus on the exact same structure with proof to show. Once you find your gift of gab. How to lock down the sales. I personally promise you will be thrilled. Buy the kit if they still dont offer it free. The quality is really worth it. I'm a chef for over 20 years in the kitchen. And these knives will definitely take on 2000k wustoff and henckels. I promise. Stick with the money makers and people who know how to get it the door and learn the talk. Then you will walk the walk. I'm from the streets and grew up around rich people fortunately and have the best of both worlds. Meaning I been around to see alot of businesses from good and bad. This company is amazing. The training you will get is priceless. People pay thousands of dollars and take seminars to learn what they hand to you at Vector Marketing. Stick with the people who dress nice and are positive. I promise on my life this is legit. They want you to practice with family because you will be relaxed to start learning. Also referrals are how million dollar companies are worked. Also. Trick is you can sell at any price you want. The lower you sell in price. The less commission you will make. So you can sell you family the best knives at the best price. Even cheaper than what they advertise. But once you learn the rates and commissions and sell. You will receive a check for the same amount as promised the next week. No bs. The customer has to make that first payment though. That's it. I went to the mens warehouse today and I bought 1600$ for 2 suits and paid 629 with tax after the 60% off on one suit and 249$ for a 750 suit that they marked down. I'm seriously going back. Also to verify I can email or text you the receipt with today's date. Be serious and put your all into it. You will get what you put into it. Hope this helps. Beware of the haters and negative people. That's cancer you dont need. Stick with the top notch players serious about making money. When you look good in a suit , everyone looks at you differently and you feel amazing like your on top of the world. You will become a more attractive sexier man or woman to everyone on this planet. Love you man and go for it. Trust me brother.
Thank you so much for explaining your thoughts and experience with this company. Personally I feel nothing sells better then word of mouth especially to people whom opinions you value. Cutco seems to understand this and uses that to it's advantage by selling their products by appointment with a sales representative. I love that Cutco mainly hires students with very little work experience at all. One of my students who recently graduated paid me a visit and did a demonstration for me. I was very impressed with Cutco's warranty and quality. It allows students to gain work experience as sales reps and sell a quality products at the same time. These knives are not cheap but a lifetime warranty backed by a solid company makes it worth the money.
"if you quit something before even finding out if you definitely like it or not, you'll always live life in regret." that comment was a general statement. it was not in direct reference to vector, as I said "something" vs "vector". why don't you actually find out the answer before resorting to derogatory language. really uncalled for man.
I really enjoyed this video. I've been with Vector for a couple years now and I will definitely agree with you that it isn't for everyone. The thing I appreciate most about what you mentioned is that even though you realized that the job wasn't right for you, you still saw the potential it has for others. Good video, good guy, and good analysis.
An average college student will not have many married individuals over the age of 30 in their network. Once such a household is found, the household will choose whether or not to allow a near stranger into their home to demonstrate knife cutting 0.0. Then the household will choose whether or not to buy the knife-set. Each appointment is $17 revenue for you; however the amount of time you spend searching for an appropriate candidate will likely outweigh your benefit. Ergo, you will likely spend hours each day looking for 1 appointment. Analyzing what I have written above, perhaps 5% of a student's known network meets the criteria. Then perhaps 20% of the 5% will allow an appointment; and an even smaller amount will purchase the knives. How much time will you waste narrowing down to that one successful customer? Vector is therefore unprofitable for the average candidate, and a candidate with an extremely wide network and/or amazingly strong sales skills (though somewhat irrelevant as if consumer does not demand product, sales will have no effect) should be smart enough to invest in something other than Cutco knives to sell, which lack brand differentiation and cost advantage in the kitchen knife market, and gives a low 10% profit margin for each sale.
So quick question about vector: since they pay $18 per appointment regardless of whether or not you make the sale, could you in theory schedule a large number of "mock" appointments with people in my dorms, with no intent to actually sell them the knives, just to rack up that base rate?
Yes you get that for every demo, but how far are you going to do that demo? I used an analogy above that shows you wil lose money in fuel alone if you do a demo only and not make a sale going just 5 miles away from your house. My numbers are accurate, and also do not reflect the meetings at their office they want you to attend weekly. It really is about the amount of time and money you will lose when you get into these things.
I sold 3,500 in Cutco. It's not for everyone, I wouldn't call it a scam. However it is shady. It would be a great job if you were provided leads and other ways to meet people. Because once I ran out of people to see within my small social circle the money stopped coming in. There's a lot of brain washing going on in this company, that's for sure.
i just got accepted and that I was told is that the set is a $450 value but you put down $99 as a deposit and then if you decide to return it, the deposit is put back on the last cheque.
I admit this is NOT a scam, however for young people who want to improve their social skills or be in business there are a multitude of better companies out there to do that. It is more about the amount of time and effort you are required to put into this in order to get even a minimal return on your time alone. You have to ask yourself how much is your time worth and does this company value my time or not. The answer is a resounding NO!!!
Ok, I just don't know what to do anymore. I just got a letter today from Vector and now, after searching the internet, I'm stuck. On one hand, I need money for college. I can't just let my parents do all the work. Not to mention, I need experience and need to improve on social skills and really all work skills since I have none. However, on the other hand, since I have no social skills, nervous with people and pretty lazy at times, so selling wouldn't be up my alley personally. Also, everyone is talking about scams and the such, but I can't believe everything the internet says, of course. So, here I am, stuck at a crossroads. I'm gonna show my mom the letter, she'll probably be just as skeptical. Ugh, I just don't know what to do... Any advice out there?
Kiera Billips Cutco is not for everyone. Some people can make it work, most don't. If you think you will benefit from the experience or the monetary compensation, go for it (though the former is more likely than the latter). If you just want money, you may want to look at other jobs that pay per hour
I worked at vector for a while and I think the good thing about it is since you make your own schedule with it, nothing is stopping you from pursuing other jobs at the same time. Also, you still make money as long as you make appointments. I feel like it's one of those companies that you really can't be sure about until you try it and see for yourself. Personally I didn't find it a good long term job, but I made decent money in the short term that I was with them.
Benjamin T. Cutco is not for everyone, particularly those who do not want to ruin their family/friend relationships; or for those whose relatives have enough common sense to say "Dear, I love you but I don't want to spend $80 on a silly knife."
+Kiera Billips I'm finishing up my Junior year of college. I already have a part-time job and full-time college/studying schedule. If I were to get a job with Vector, I would spend countless hours trying to sell expensive kitchen utensils that NONE of my close relatives or friends could possibly afford. With my current job, I'm making $8.50/hr, which ends up being around $100 every 2 weeks. This doesn't include what I usually make over summer break. If I got a job working for Vector, I would be forced to work less hours at my current job to have time for selling knives. If I only make a couple of appointments per week (because I'm so busy as it is), then I'm better off sticking with my current job with guaranteed income. Unlike Vector, my current boss actually is flexible, and she doesn't bother my friends & family. If I tell her I have a school project or big exam coming up, she'll ask me what hours I would be comfortable working. She understands that I have a life outside of work! I'll be graduating next Spring (hopefully) so I do need to start looking for jobs & working on my resume, but based on what I've seen over the past couple of hours, Vector is NOT a company I want to work for.
to answer your question you do not have to pay for the set of knives you demo with, furthermore as you make more sales overtime they give you free knives from the kit and increase your incentive pay by a set percentage.
I'm working for them as I type. In my fast start (I'm on day 3) I've sold close to 2,000 dollars worth already and personally made 350 dollars for only 5 hours of work. I will say you're right, it's not for everyone. I still feel it's not for me, but what I'm doing seems to be working. I just keep my positive attitude towards clients at all times, crack a couple jokes here and there, don't force them into anything, and bam I give them a good deal in the end. It may take from my cut, but you know what? That's okay. I made a friend out of it and we both leave happy with smiles on our faces.getting to know friends of friends family is actually really fun and being able to build a quick connection with your new customers is key.
i've started the last friday 05/23/2013 and like some of you idk how this will turn but one thing i know i that working hard, knowing your next move and continue self achievement it will help you, but i still don't know how it will turn.
I think your info is fairly accurate. & I being someone who has now worked for the company for 4 years, earned three trips with the company even tho I started as a shy, inexperienced rep. I appreciate people like you who r understandin that every1 has a diff. experience. For me i stayed because I wanted to get scholarships, experience, to have fun, a flexible schedule while in school and most of all money.& i got feel like i got it.Last year earned just over 37K as a full time student w/ 3.8 GPA
Awesome Vid i have recently been hired to work for Vector and you answered a lot of my questions and doubts, Went to the first interview and though it was going to be a complete scam and that they would try to sell me something but it turns out they are very professional straight to the point and the stuff they do sell is high quality, i felt welcomed and it was an overall great feeling if anyone gets a call from these guys i highly recommend going to at least one interview and then decide
Spot on analysis Ben & my biggest beef is the fact that they continue to dupe young college-aged kids into joining with the muse of a high wage (typically $17-18/hr), but they are never paid that amount because of fine print. A totally unethical company, the Vector Marking arm that is... The knives are so good, but why do they have to market the product so unethically???? Does is get passed down from the father to the kids? I don't know.
Im working here for the summer and planning on keeping it going for a long time even if i make it just a side thing. Ive only been in the company for a month now and i make 25% of what i sell, soon enough if i keep up this rate i can make 50%. Its about the time and effort you put in, in fact you make more money the more you put in compared to a normal job where you have to spend months to get a .50 cent raise. It all depends on how you look at it, its like any other job but for diff type of ppl
I haven't worked with Vector/Cutco in a while, so you might be better off asking someone with recent experience. As far as I know, if you finish the training they give you a kit to borrow (which you have to check in and out when you're not using it). However, I'm not sure if this practice is universal.
I really like your vid, I have a similar take as I don't feel like I am naturally competitive/agressive. I sold about $2,300 & turned in my kit in just under 3 weeks to focus on school, Navy Reserve advancement exams, swimming and guitar. Obviously I'm the type to try to stay busy. I advise anyone to make time for Vector & improve social skills, communication skills, time management, & take advice from the more experienced reps & managers acting as great all-around LIFE COACHES in general.
i got hired today to go in for training and they said they would give me a kit free of charge to use as a kit and i have three days of training and that i would only use friends and family as "practice" and the hourly pay they said was 17 bucks so is what they are saying true? if anyone can give me some advice id gladly appreciate it
What you spend in fuel and time, you will end up losing money anyway. This kid actually looked into it and realized how hard it actually is. I made the statement earlier that if you are just starting out in the work force, an employer will not care about you being in a company like this, but if you have a regular job and do well there, at the very least you have a good reference for a better job in the future. I am 40 i know what i am talking about. I was in these things when i was 19-25.
Cutco is not a scam. However, there is a difference between a scam and a dumb pointless job. If anyone excelled more power to you. But, you go around selling knives going door to door or (or customer referrals same bull shit) and they cost a fortune. If i remember correctly, one table knife is $30 and the sets go up to $4000. How many chefs can their be in this world who would actually know the quality and not have some kid talking about how great they are. Also if family or friends wont buy to get you started then you are screwed no matter how great you are. My uncle gave me $200 and said keep the knives. My dad gave me $100 and said quit the job the next day which i did. I did everything they asked but Cutco is a dumb job i would not recommend.
I started working Thursday.. tomorrow will be my 3rd day. i don't have to put any money down for my sample kit. but it just seems sketchy... Idk if i should go tomorrow?
yeah cutco totally helped me break out of my shell. as important as it is to practice the script it teaches that in the end of the day your dealing with people. your talking to people on the phone and in person. I never thought I had the personality fro sales. Having a good manager changes everything.
i hope you went back to at least to try working for the 10 day fast start to see if it's right for you. if you quit something before even finding out if you definitely like it or not, you'll always live life in regret. just a personal opinion.
I left that shit ass job, micro managing my ass all fucking day, my account "frozen" because I couldnt sell one thing, The Bosses want us to sell 3,000 to 4,000 kits in under a couple of days, Vector was 55 mins away from my house, here and there, and driving from house to house, spent over 200 dollars in Gas, no even gas compensation.
My brother got a job there today. It just seems shady to us, So I'm doing some research. There seems to be an awful lot of videos on TH-cam titled Vector Marketing or Cutco is a scam. I read you have to pay 200 bucks for some starter kit thing, is that really true?
There are people who do make money selling Cutco. See this link: www.prweb.com/releases/2015/SethKinzer/prweb12733426.htm. The problem as I see it, is that Vector falsely advertises their positions as though it is an hourly position. For instance $14 an hour. Therein lies the problem. Why not just tell the truth? Because very few would apply if they advertised it truthfully.
Of course this video is "scripted." I wrote down what I wanted to say before I made it. Anyway, not spending money, is a wise decision. but if your vector branch was anything like mine, you shouldn't have to.
Ben, my 2nd reply. You said in your last statement that it is not a scam. I would disagree with you. Vector marketing is indeed a scam. How were you lured to Vector??? They typically lure young people with the promise of a high hourly wage which you never actually get. And then during the selling process, you also don't get the hourly wage which does indeed make it a scam. Get real buddy.
My only complaint is that this video doesn't have more views. Every once in a while one of these videos pops up on my feed and I watch it for shits and giggles at the people who(obviously) expected it to be an easy job and bitch about it being a scam. This is the first I've seen that tells the truth: it's not for everyone but the experience gained is unmatched. I've been with the company for well over a year, hit the 50% commission level and also took a District Manager promotion. For those that say this job ruins family relations- I'm sorry your family is so fragile. A typical family that isn't interested in the product would just say 'no' and move on. For those that say you're screwed without a big network to start- I started in a small farm town and my nearest neighbor was over a mile away. Quit bitching about your circumstances and take action!!!
I went to a couple days of training and looked into consumer reports and they talked down the sales people on the review of the knifes. That was enough to get me not to finish the training. The knifes felt cheap to me, I couldn't see how they good buy for anyone.
No its the fact you have to do cold calls before you knock on a door and most people sell to family i made on avg 5-10 sells a week more than anyone in my district. Your at the house on avg of 1 hour so 1 house is 14$ and on avg you do 2-3 houses a day. ( dead line is 6pm) On any average day working at mc donalds you make 60-90$ And your not paid at the office.. Most cutco workers make 14-28$ a day cause most people want let you come to there house. The record is 6 houses through out the usa.
So I did the interview and got the job easy. now they say they pay you per appointment is 18$. My question is how will they know you did your appointment and did your presentation? can you just tell them you did 10 appointments and 10 presentations and get paid?
It's kind of trust based but you have to call your manager before during or after the demo (or at least that's how it works for me) the first month is the hardest but try to stick with it, it's not for everybody but it's still a great learning experience. It just requires a skill set that not everybody has but that's not a bad thing. Let me know if you have any questions I've been with it for a month in Alabama so I've kinda seen the good and bad. I enjoy it though!
+Patrick star No you don't have to pay for anything to start off but as you go if you decide you want more pieces to bring on your demos you have to either win them through competitions or your fast start or you can buy them on the website for a discounted price. They give you plenty to start off but if you want to sell more it's easier if you can show them more. But you don't have to "leave money" even though I don't know what you meant by that. In my experience the majority of the people I've met at the office are friendly and it's been a sometimes frustrating but overall great chance to grow and learn
+Patrick star That used to be the case where you had to buy it but now you only have to pay for it if you quit and keep the kit, or at least that's how it works here in Alabama
Do the math is the record is 6 and on average people do 2-3 Mc donalds out pays them by a mile. So 14x3= 42 and the average part time worker at mc donalds gets paid 8$ and works for 8. You make 22 more dollars working a part time shift at Mc Donald's than cutco.
I personally love it. The meetings are fun because they have agreed to let you meet with them witch means they are some what interested. All of the people I have met with were really cool and the demo was fun. Some one even invited me to stay for dinner. Its not for every one but it is certanly better than working fast food or some other sucky job.
Started working for Vector selling cutco a few weeks ago... In my first ten days I sold 10,396 CPO value of product. My first paycheck was for 2,060 dollars. Right now I'm working to sell a total of 30,000 CPO value of product at which point I will make a total of $10,000 cash for myself for the summertime. I've spent 150 dollars on gas. WORTH IT. Not a scam, it just takes a ton of work.
I just got hired and was "lent" my demonstration kit. I have the option of buying it at a highly discounted price if I want to keep it. I was told the policy is if you don't plan on any demonstrations for a week then it needs to be turned in until the next time you have demonstrations scheduled. Btw, I was a Cutco customer before I became a sales rep. The product sells itself, it's that good. As a consumer, I won't buy another brand of cutlery ever again.
Obviously selling cutco isn't for everyone, but the skills one can develop by working this job and breaking out of their shell, (ex. strong interpersonal communication skills, time management, goal setting, and even presentation skills, is phenomenal. It's definitely not a scam, but it also isn't for everyone. If you need to be told when to work, the job isn't for you. The flexibility is amazing, but it also requires discipline. The money making opportunity potential is ridiculous though.
So true. They target high schoolers and college kids for a reason because they know they can make it look like they are going to make money working "smarter" and not "harder". It is one of the oldest tricks in the sales reps and manager's books to tell these kids that. My step daughter tried this twice now with this company and VEMMA if you know what that one is, and both times i told her how hard it is to actually succeed. Although she was pissed at me, at least i got through.
I never said I was a college student. I'm a mother who needed a part time job, that's all. I cook for a family of 3 plus our room mate on a regular basis. When it comes to kitchen tools for me quality and warranty outweigh initial price. I'll pay that price if it means not buying another knife ever again for me or my child later. Working with Vector is my second job, btw. Anywho, did I say that college students are forced to buy? No, just said there was on option to if you don't want to borrow.
Well keep in mind vector is also trying to sell you on their company as well. this may be where the sketchy feeling comes in. If you think you can make the necessary calls and talk to people (or if you would like to work on your people skills and getting used to rejection) go for it.
Been with vector for a while now and this video is pretty accurate. Especially the when he says "is the company using you to make money?" obviously it's a yes. That's almost the definition of an employee. McDonald's uses their burger flippers to make money.
You don't have to pay for your sample kits anymore, they're simply lent out to you for free, you just have to submit an order of any quantity once a week in order to remain an "active" rep. Only trolls go online ranting about how it's a scam. I'm a rep and have been for over a year and have made 26k this year alone as an 18yr old college kid, ran my own office and sold 115k. Job isn't for everyone, retention rate is low, average is about a week. But if you ACTUALLY try, you'll do great. Trust me
I disagree with you. First 10 days on the job I spent $80 on fuel and worked an average of 8 hours a day. After 10 days I got a paycheck for 2,060 dollars. That is about 6 times more money than I would have made at a Starbucks or Chipotle, assuming I was able to work that many hours. In regards to your comment about companies not caring about a person being with a company like this when they are starting out... top sales reps get a signed letter of rec. from the president of cutco.
Cutco uses a different edge then regular knives and the angle is different as well I knkw people who have every piece of cutco you can own and they love it. They wont testimonials for me.
Going to have to disagree with you. Several Fortune 500 business guarantee an interview to any applicant with a college degree and Vector experience. My dad is the head recruiter at Comcast (a Fortune 500 company), he knows what he is talking about. Other companies that stand behind the same claim: Motorola, Enterprise R-A-C, Best Buy, Liberty Mutual,
I Dont know what position you guys got but from my experience they are not crap, they are high quality knives, I mean come on the military uses the ka-bar that they manufacture in the same company so what does that say. And would you rather buy a product made from China? I wouldn't, usually they are crap. Cutco is made in America and has been around for decades so I can just say that the people slandering the company name probably packed the drive and motivation to excel in the position and really get the full vector experience. During the traong they repeat countless times that you get played a base rate per appt. The incentive pay comes into play when you exceed the base pay. Vector also has a great training program that looks great on any résumé
you do realize a pyramid scheme is where you pay to sell right? the knives they give you to demo with are completely free to use, the training is free, and you are GUARANTEED pay for making an appointment. if you follow the guidelines and give somewhat of an effort, you will make money, but like the guy in the video said it isn't cut out for everyone, but it's not a pyramid scheme, please do more research before posting incorrect information about companies.
You pay nothing now to start, you get free training and then you get sales experience and that can get you a job, if you're smart enough to make a simple resume.
Just don't go. They'll find someone else to talk into it. It's not like they'll call future employers and tell them you were a no-show. Don't waste your time. They suckered my son into days of training only to hit him and the others up there for the price of a "demo kit."
Just responding to the last comment you left me. It surprises you that chefs comment on here giving positive feedback. Did it ever cross your mind that the reason for that is because chefs know about quality. Judging by the background in your video you dont. Not to mention, judging by your age and attire, your neither a home owner or in the market for high quality anything. Please save yourself the embarrassment of ranting on TH-cam trying to make Cutco look bad. You might as well stand at william sonoma and cosco and boycott Al Clad and Shun and anything else It wont make a difference because you aren't educated enough on the subject to keep the properly educated from making a purchase.
If dude is qualified to be a professional marketer of the organization, dude is qualified to review the program. He's seen it from the inside. How do we know the 'chefs' comments here are not Cutco representatives trolling and marketing? If I was a Cutco guru that's what I would be doing.
Mark Howard He clearly is neither a "professional" nor is he a "marketer" of this company. He was a representative for Cutco that was still in the training process of seeing his friends and family. If he were a "Cutco Sales Professional". He would not be making this video, one because he would have better things to do with his time and two, because he would have had a good experience and not a negative one. He would have a clientele base, would have sold at home shows and fairground shows, he would have a realtor gift sales clientele base and he would look like a professional. Please refrain from commenting on here again until you are educated enough or "qualified" to do so. Thanks
Thanks, you have McDonalds crew trainer management written all over you. Hey, if tou play your cards right maybe you'll get to wear a pretty blue shirt and polyester tie and be a manager ther. :D that would suit you well. Then you can share your ideas and thoughs all over somewhere else were they don't matter.
Get a real job whether you want one or not. As long as you do good work at that job, and are a good employee overall, that "crappy" job you have now, will end up being able to be put on a better job application. IOW saying you sold CUTCO knives for a year to a regular employer will look bad for you compared to having a keeping a regular hourly job for that same year. You will have a more reliable reference that way.
I left this place on the second training day, there was no way I was going to be selling $1000+ knifes to my relatives and friends that are struggling with money. I felt bad for this one girl that was there, she was really sad cause the dude told us to come with a list of people to call and she was the type that looked like she was an outcast. She had like 1 person and said she didn't got along with her family that well.
Sales requires social skills, it's not for everyone.
yeah if you dontn know people and have toxic family or something and dont have many friends wont work and even if u do like your soliciting to people you know and they lie to you on the application
I bought an $800 dollar set in 2001. I love them. If they get dull, which my paring knife has, send it back, they will sharpen it free...
I've worked for Cutco and I wouldn't say its a pure scam. But they do mislead people into joining their team. I was a secretary and my job was to read a script over the phone from a list of people who heard we were hiring (they're always hiring) and were interviewed the same day. The interviewer asks the interviewees to give a list of names with numbers of friends who they think might also need work. Those phone numbers go to my list and I would call them. I would tell them that the new hire, (your friend so and so) suggested they might need some extra work and were "recommended" to us. After mentioning there is no experience necessary since Vector will train you, the caller is willing to listen and continue the call with interest. That person who I'm on the phone with is desperate for work and thinks its the perfect job once we tell them that the job is a 16$ pay rate, BUT we DON"T mention its 'per appointment' UNLESS they ask. They don't comprehend this quickly enough to realize its not paid hourly. That means, you could be presenting your products to them for more than an hour. The secretaries are sure they got the caller in their grasp after hearing the excitement in his/her voice about the pay which results in immediate group hires. Everyday, there was a new group dressed in professional attire who arrived thinking this job was an important/fancy company who hired only business like people. The employer who is interviewing will hire ANYONE who applies. They will make it sound like your joining an important company but they will take anybody.
The script they give the secretaries to read are constantly updated to persuade and manipulate the person we are calling to join the team and by making the job sound absolutely perfect but without lying to the caller and by keeping it vague. Our goal was to try to get people to come in for an interview the same day so we could get more names and numbers by the end of the day. Cutco/Vector gets new employees and money by interviewing a ton of people and advertising that they're hiring for 16$/hr on job sites like monster or indeed jobs, even flyers around campuses or colleges. During your interview, your asked to give the company some phone numbers of people who need a job (this happens all the same day) and we would call them to come in for an interview because they were "recommended" to us.
They focus and aim for college students or high school graduates. Once hired, you give out even more names to your employer and he/she puts in the system for all the vector marketing secretaries from around United States to call. They even train the secretaries on voice tone, objections and have serious call conferences with other secretaries from around the nation. Not only that, but they go even further to give the secretaries homework/tests after the conferences to answer the test question. After every conference, which is Tuesday mornings at 10 am, we would have to email the answer to the question. Yes, I just quit this job recently because it didn't seem right. I felt like I was manipulating a person desperate for a job. Every time I made contact with someone I called and read the script word for word, I felt like I was misleading people into joining a job that's more like a door to door job and answering vaguely to questions my caller would ask. I never answered in detail by following the script. Even tho they say its not door to door or cold calling, it really is. Here is an example of the short version of the script:
"Hi _____, my name is Melissa and I'm a secretary for Vector Marketing. I'm calling because ______ recommended you for a position to work in our company. You get paid 16$ per appointment. Its not based on commission but it has a commission opportunity." "
That's just a small part of the script. They even have objection responses for those that are sketchy about the position or have a question. The client's question is NEVER answered in detail, its answered very vaguely.
As far as purchasing from them, they are worth the money because the company keeps the knifes sharp and they are very very very good knifes. If your knifes break, the company will fix them for you and do everything they say they promised. They live up to their guarantee. The products are the highest quality you'll ever find in the United States, that's why they are so extremely expensive. After working there for a few months, I would say that there is nothing wrong with the product. The only problem I don't like about Vector is the way the company manipulates the people who are desperate for work. Most of the people I called were mothers looking for an easy job and they came to the interview very disappointed. I don't suggest working for them unless you LOVE being a salesman and your absolutely sure that the numbers you give to the company are customers looking for products to buy and friends who also like being a salesman. I remember calling people who the new hires gave numbers to us secretaries and 95 % of them asked me to stop calling them or would get offended for having that new hire "recommend" them to us because they were adults with already over paid jobs. Yes, the secretaries at Vector will be calling one number at least 3-5 times a week.
For those that want to work for Vector: Here are the Pros and Cons I found..
Pros) They teach you great business and communication skills. After working with them, you feel like your better at handling business than any CEO ever could. The training is amazing and your fellow coworkers are very friendly and helpful. Its a social and professional feel. You gain useful skills like time management and social skills that most business students will die to learn. You gain not only skills but confidence in yourself after the first 2 days of training. Your an expert at knifes and kitchenware. You'll be able to become a powerful spokesman and excellent chef. I mention chef because they teach employees how to cut the food properly and efficiently under a manner of seconds for demonstrations to the customers.
Cons) You will regret giving out the numbers from your friends who need a job because we will be calling them like a telemarketer would and they will be extremely annoyed. You will be calling your friends, friends of friends and relatives. These people will help you get even more numbers to call which will result in a huge list of numbers that belong to your friends parents, your friends of friends parents and so on. Somebody's parents. Basically on the phone ALL THE TIME! All day every day. Your not getting paid while on the phone, no overtime while presenting your product and you will not be paid for training which is about 3 days after you've been hired. Your practically a salesman, trying to sell things to your friends parents. Yes, parents only. No single adults but parents because the parents have money and moms always love new kitchen knifes. If your okay with calling a ton of people, presenting the product in your clients home no matter how long it may take and managing your own time, then you will do awesome at this company. Its not for everybody. But it does pay well if you work hard. No job is easy.
All I'm gonna say to end this long review from working for Vector is if a job sounds too good to be true, it usually is. If you feel like you can do it, you can and there is nothing stopping you but yourself.
I was a manager, the only people that we don't hire are those that clearly have a negative attitude. You don't want one bad apple spoiling the bunch of your training class. I also didn't hire a girl that couldn't read...
Melissa Pratt
The whole time I was there, I loved it. I promise you will see how valuable , informative and priceless the information you will learn. I worked at over 30 companies and this company is the best strategic experience I have ever received. Not to mention the perks. They have scholarships, and built resumes you can take with you your whole life. Also the way you get promoted and the ranks and price of pay ranges between how much you sell. 80 percent of people say it's a scam. Hell no it isn't. Take a look at the people who slander the company. They are very negative people with zero drive. I know millionaires that focus on the exact same structure with proof to show. Once you find your gift of gab. How to lock down the sales. I personally promise you will be thrilled. Buy the kit if they still dont offer it free. The quality is really worth it. I'm a chef for over 20 years in the kitchen. And these knives will definitely take on 2000k wustoff and henckels. I promise. Stick with the money makers and people who know how to get it the door and learn the talk. Then you will walk the walk. I'm from the streets and grew up around rich people fortunately and have the best of both worlds. Meaning I been around to see alot of businesses from good and bad. This company is amazing. The training you will get is priceless. People pay thousands of dollars and take seminars to learn what they hand to you at Vector Marketing. Stick with the people who dress nice and are positive. I promise on my life this is legit. They want you to practice with family because you will be relaxed to start learning. Also referrals are how million dollar companies are worked. Also. Trick is you can sell at any price you want. The lower you sell in price. The less commission you will make. So you can sell you family the best knives at the best price. Even cheaper than what they advertise. But once you learn the rates and commissions and sell. You will receive a check for the same amount as promised the next week. No bs. The customer has to make that first payment though. That's it. I went to the mens warehouse today and I bought 1600$ for 2 suits and paid 629 with tax after the 60% off on one suit and 249$ for a 750 suit that they marked down. I'm seriously going back. Also to verify I can email or text you the receipt with today's date. Be serious and put your all into it. You will get what you put into it. Hope this helps. Beware of the haters and negative people. That's cancer you dont need. Stick with the top notch players serious about making money. When you look good in a suit , everyone looks at you differently and you feel amazing like your on top of the world. You will become a more attractive sexier man or woman to everyone on this planet. Love you man and go for it. Trust me brother.
Melissa one of the best reviews I've read yet thanks!!!!
Very clear, non rambling explanation. Thank you for making this video!
I'm happy you tried the position man, it's not for everyone, but it does at least give you some valuable lessons while trying it.
You look like L from death note
He looks like a young stoned Johnny Depp
Random Question: How did you get that many people to buy those expensive knives? Did you go to rich people? Restaurants?
authentic, objective and informative…thanks !
you have the perfect voice for asmr vids. so calm and relaxing.
Thank you so much for explaining your thoughts and experience with this company. Personally I feel nothing sells better then word of mouth especially to people whom opinions you value. Cutco seems to understand this and uses that to it's advantage by selling their products by appointment with a sales representative. I love that Cutco mainly hires students with very little work experience at all. One of my students who recently graduated paid me a visit and did a demonstration for me. I was very impressed with Cutco's warranty and quality. It allows students to gain work experience as sales reps and sell a quality products at the same time. These knives are not cheap but a lifetime warranty backed by a solid company makes it worth the money.
Bad company for those who don't have many friends.
"if you quit something before even finding out if you definitely like it or not, you'll always live life in regret."
that comment was a general statement. it was not in direct reference to vector, as I said "something" vs "vector". why don't you actually find out the answer before resorting to derogatory language. really uncalled for man.
This guy pretty much gets it. All companies hire you to make money on you, derp. get over it, make it work for YOU.
Not the air force! they hire you to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars a day blowing stuff up and burning fuel. America!
Joe Bowers Thats my guaranteed 1850$ a month, not this scam shit.
I really enjoyed this video. I've been with Vector for a couple years now and I will definitely agree with you that it isn't for everyone. The thing I appreciate most about what you mentioned is that even though you realized that the job wasn't right for you, you still saw the potential it has for others. Good video, good guy, and good analysis.
An average college student will not have many married individuals over the age of 30 in their network. Once such a household is found, the household will choose whether or not to allow a near stranger into their home to demonstrate knife cutting 0.0. Then the household will choose whether or not to buy the knife-set.
Each appointment is $17 revenue for you; however the amount of time you spend searching for an appropriate candidate will likely outweigh your benefit. Ergo, you will likely spend hours each day looking for 1 appointment.
Analyzing what I have written above, perhaps 5% of a student's known network meets the criteria. Then perhaps 20% of the 5% will allow an appointment; and an even smaller amount will purchase the knives. How much time will you waste narrowing down to that one successful customer?
Vector is therefore unprofitable for the average candidate, and a candidate with an extremely wide network and/or amazingly strong sales skills (though somewhat irrelevant as if consumer does not demand product, sales will have no effect) should be smart enough to invest in something other than Cutco knives to sell, which lack brand differentiation and cost advantage in the kitchen knife market, and gives a low 10% profit margin for each sale.
So quick question about vector: since they pay $18 per appointment regardless of whether or not you make the sale, could you in theory schedule a large number of "mock" appointments with people in my dorms, with no intent to actually sell them the knives, just to rack up that base rate?
Yes you get that for every demo, but how far are you going to do that demo? I used an analogy above that shows you wil lose money in fuel alone if you do a demo only and not make a sale going just 5 miles away from your house. My numbers are accurate, and also do not reflect the meetings at their office they want you to attend weekly. It really is about the amount of time and money you will lose when you get into these things.
I sold 3,500 in Cutco. It's not for everyone, I wouldn't call it a scam. However it is shady. It would be a great job if you were provided leads and other ways to meet people. Because once I ran out of people to see within my small social circle the money stopped coming in. There's a lot of brain washing going on in this company, that's for sure.
i just got accepted and that I was told is that the set is a $450 value but you put down $99 as a deposit and then if you decide to return it, the deposit is put back on the last cheque.
I admit this is NOT a scam, however for young people who want to improve their social skills or be in business there are a multitude of better companies out there to do that. It is more about the amount of time and effort you are required to put into this in order to get even a minimal return on your time alone. You have to ask yourself how much is your time worth and does this company value my time or not. The answer is a resounding NO!!!
Did i hear you say...... "I made up these statistics"?
Yes, you heard correctly. I was making an example to illustrate a point.
83% of people who make up statistics are ass-clowns.
Ok, I just don't know what to do anymore. I just got a letter today from Vector and now, after searching the internet, I'm stuck. On one hand, I need money for college. I can't just let my parents do all the work. Not to mention, I need experience and need to improve on social skills and really all work skills since I have none. However, on the other hand, since I have no social skills, nervous with people and pretty lazy at times, so selling wouldn't be up my alley personally. Also, everyone is talking about scams and the such, but I can't believe everything the internet says, of course. So, here I am, stuck at a crossroads. I'm gonna show my mom the letter, she'll probably be just as skeptical. Ugh, I just don't know what to do... Any advice out there?
Kiera Billips Cutco is not for everyone. Some people can make it work, most don't. If you think you will benefit from the experience or the monetary compensation, go for it (though the former is more likely than the latter). If you just want money, you may want to look at other jobs that pay per hour
I worked at vector for a while and I think the good thing about it is since you make your own schedule with it, nothing is stopping you from pursuing other jobs at the same time. Also, you still make money as long as you make appointments. I feel like it's one of those companies that you really can't be sure about until you try it and see for yourself. Personally I didn't find it a good long term job, but I made decent money in the short term that I was with them.
Benjamin T. Cutco is not for everyone, particularly those who do not want to ruin their family/friend relationships; or for those whose relatives have enough common sense to say "Dear, I love you but I don't want to spend $80 on a silly knife."
+Kiera Billips I'm finishing up my Junior year of college. I already have a part-time job and full-time college/studying schedule. If I were to get a job with Vector, I would spend countless hours trying to sell expensive kitchen utensils that NONE of my close relatives or friends could possibly afford.
With my current job, I'm making $8.50/hr, which ends up being around $100 every 2 weeks. This doesn't include what I usually make over summer break. If I got a job working for Vector, I would be forced to work less hours at my current job to have time for selling knives. If I only make a couple of appointments per week (because I'm so busy as it is), then I'm better off sticking with my current job with guaranteed income.
Unlike Vector, my current boss actually is flexible, and she doesn't bother my friends & family. If I tell her I have a school project or big exam coming up, she'll ask me what hours I would be comfortable working. She understands that I have a life outside of work!
I'll be graduating next Spring (hopefully) so I do need to start looking for jobs & working on my resume, but based on what I've seen over the past couple of hours, Vector is NOT a company I want to work for.
Im supposed to be training soon, I have to call my manager for my days. And all of these reviews is having me rethink before I even start lol.
to answer your question you do not have to pay for the set of knives you demo with, furthermore as you make more sales overtime they give you free knives from the kit and increase your incentive pay by a set percentage.
I'm working for them as I type. In my fast start (I'm on day 3) I've sold close to 2,000 dollars worth already and personally made 350 dollars for only 5 hours of work. I will say you're right, it's not for everyone. I still feel it's not for me, but what I'm doing seems to be working. I just keep my positive attitude towards clients at all times, crack a couple jokes here and there, don't force them into anything, and bam I give them a good deal in the end. It may take from my cut, but you know what? That's okay. I made a friend out of it and we both leave happy with smiles on our faces.getting to know friends of friends family is actually really fun and being able to build a quick connection with your new customers is key.
Congrats on taking advantage of that fast start!! Wow!! I'm very impressed :D
i've started the last friday 05/23/2013 and like some of you idk how this will turn but one thing i know i that working hard, knowing your next move and continue self achievement it will help you, but i still don't know how it will turn.
I think your info is fairly accurate. & I being someone who has now worked for the company for 4 years, earned three trips with the company even tho I started as a shy, inexperienced rep. I appreciate people like you who r understandin that every1 has a diff. experience. For me i stayed because I wanted to get scholarships, experience, to have fun, a flexible schedule while in school and most of all money.& i got feel like i got it.Last year earned just over 37K as a full time student w/ 3.8 GPA
Thanks I had a interview tomorrow and was gonna turn down working at Sears , glad I didn't call Sears. not showing up to interview.
I find you very well spoken, with a level head and little bias. Thank you for a detailed and honest opinion.
Awesome Vid i have recently been hired to work for Vector and you answered a lot of my questions and doubts, Went to the first interview and though it was going to be a complete scam and that they would try to sell me something but it turns out they are very professional straight to the point and the stuff they do sell is high quality, i felt welcomed and it was an overall great feeling if anyone gets a call from these guys i highly recommend going to at least one interview and then decide
Spot on analysis Ben & my biggest beef is the fact that they continue to dupe young college-aged kids into joining with the muse of a high wage (typically $17-18/hr), but they are never paid that amount because of fine print. A totally unethical company, the Vector Marking arm that is... The knives are so good, but why do they have to market the product so unethically???? Does is get passed down from the father to the kids? I don't know.
Im working here for the summer and planning on keeping it going for a long time even if i make it just a side thing. Ive only been in the company for a month now and i make 25% of what i sell, soon enough if i keep up this rate i can make 50%. Its about the time and effort you put in, in fact you make more money the more you put in compared to a normal job where you have to spend months to get a .50 cent raise. It all depends on how you look at it, its like any other job but for diff type of ppl
I haven't worked with Vector/Cutco in a while, so you might be better off asking someone with recent experience. As far as I know, if you finish the training they give you a kit to borrow (which you have to check in and out when you're not using it). However, I'm not sure if this practice is universal.
Theoretically you can. However you are encouraged to call to make an appointment.
I really like your vid, I have a similar take as I don't feel like I am naturally competitive/agressive.
I sold about $2,300 & turned in my kit in just under 3 weeks to focus on school, Navy Reserve advancement exams, swimming and guitar. Obviously I'm the type to try to stay busy. I advise anyone to make time for Vector & improve social skills, communication skills, time management, & take advice from the more experienced reps & managers acting as great all-around LIFE COACHES in general.
i got hired today to go in for training and they said they would give me a kit free of charge to use as a kit and i have three days of training and that i would only use friends and family as "practice" and the hourly pay they said was 17 bucks so is what they are saying true? if anyone can give me some advice id gladly appreciate it
It's a scam they wanted me to buy their product before I got hired .
Is Cutco a Scam? My Experience #vector #Cutco #Review #Scam #vectormarketing #cutcocutlery
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Benjamin T. For further reviews: www.consumeraffairs.com/employment/vector-marketing.html
How did they pay you, if you don't mind me asking? And what do they mean by "customer service"?
What you spend in fuel and time, you will end up losing money anyway. This kid actually looked into it and realized how hard it actually is. I made the statement earlier that if you are just starting out in the work force, an employer will not care about you being in a company like this, but if you have a regular job and do well there, at the very least you have a good reference for a better job in the future. I am 40 i know what i am talking about. I was in these things when i was 19-25.
Cutco is not a scam. However, there is a difference between a scam and a dumb pointless job. If anyone excelled more power to you. But, you go around selling knives going door to door or (or customer referrals same bull shit) and they cost a fortune. If i remember correctly, one table knife is $30 and the sets go up to $4000. How many chefs can their be in this world who would actually know the quality and not have some kid talking about how great they are. Also if family or friends wont buy to get you started then you are screwed no matter how great you are. My uncle gave me $200 and said keep the knives. My dad gave me $100 and said quit the job the next day which i did. I did everything they asked but Cutco is a dumb job i would not recommend.
How do I drop out? I have an interview tomorrow morning and I don't want to do this anymore. Should I just not show up?
I started working Thursday.. tomorrow will be my 3rd day. i don't have to put any money down for my sample kit. but it just seems sketchy... Idk if i should go tomorrow?
do you have to go to door to door?
yeah cutco totally helped me break out of my shell. as important as it is to practice the script it teaches that in the end of the day your dealing with people. your talking to people on the phone and in person. I never thought I had the personality fro sales. Having a good manager changes everything.
i hope you went back to at least to try working for the 10 day fast start to see if it's right for you. if you quit something before even finding out if you definitely like it or not, you'll always live life in regret. just a personal opinion.
I left that shit ass job, micro managing my ass all fucking day, my account "frozen" because I couldnt sell one thing, The Bosses want us to sell 3,000 to 4,000 kits in under a couple of days, Vector was 55 mins away from my house, here and there, and driving from house to house, spent over 200 dollars in Gas, no even gas compensation.
My brother got a job there today. It just seems shady to us, So I'm doing some research. There seems to be an awful lot of videos on TH-cam titled Vector Marketing or Cutco is a scam. I read you have to pay 200 bucks for some starter kit thing, is that really true?
There are people who do make money selling Cutco. See this link: www.prweb.com/releases/2015/SethKinzer/prweb12733426.htm. The problem as I see it, is that Vector falsely advertises their positions as though it is an hourly position. For instance $14 an hour. Therein lies the problem. Why not just tell the truth? Because very few would apply if they advertised it truthfully.
I don't get what you mean.. They don't pay 14 an hour?
its not 14 dollars an hour, it's 14 dollars for an hour long appointment.
Of course this video is "scripted." I wrote down what I wanted to say before I made it. Anyway, not spending money, is a wise decision. but if your vector branch was anything like mine, you shouldn't have to.
Ben, my 2nd reply. You said in your last statement that it is not a scam. I would disagree with you. Vector marketing is indeed a scam. How were you lured to Vector??? They typically lure young people with the promise of a high hourly wage which you never actually get. And then during the selling process, you also don't get the hourly wage which does indeed make it a scam. Get real buddy.
My only complaint is that this video doesn't have more views. Every once in a while one of these videos pops up on my feed and I watch it for shits and giggles at the people who(obviously) expected it to be an easy job and bitch about it being a scam. This is the first I've seen that tells the truth: it's not for everyone but the experience gained is unmatched. I've been with the company for well over a year, hit the 50% commission level and also took a District Manager promotion. For those that say this job ruins family relations- I'm sorry your family is so fragile. A typical family that isn't interested in the product would just say 'no' and move on.
For those that say you're screwed without a big network to start- I started in a small farm town and my nearest neighbor was over a mile away. Quit bitching about your circumstances and take action!!!
Thanks dude i have an interview tomorrow. Oll try it out but if i dont like it ill stop. Oh and were you in your closet
No problem, yes, and best of luck
eh i just had my first interview with them. i think if ur a positive person scam or not u can make a ton of money selling a trust worthy product
I went to a couple days of training and looked into consumer reports and they talked down the sales people on the review of the knifes. That was enough to get me not to finish the training. The knifes felt cheap to me, I couldn't see how they good buy for anyone.
i just did my interview got the job should i honestly go to training let me know if im truly wasting my time please and thank you
No its the fact you have to do cold calls before you knock on a door and most people sell to family i made on avg 5-10 sells a week more than anyone in my district. Your at the house on avg of 1 hour so 1 house is 14$ and on avg you do 2-3 houses a day. ( dead line is 6pm) On any average day working at mc donalds you make 60-90$ And your not paid at the office.. Most cutco workers make 14-28$ a day cause most people want let you come to there house. The record is 6 houses through out the usa.
So I did the interview and got the job easy. now they say they pay you per appointment is 18$. My question is how will they know you did your appointment and did your presentation? can you just tell them you did 10 appointments and 10 presentations and get paid?
It's kind of trust based but you have to call your manager before during or after the demo (or at least that's how it works for me) the first month is the hardest but try to stick with it, it's not for everybody but it's still a great learning experience. It just requires a skill set that not everybody has but that's not a bad thing. Let me know if you have any questions I've been with it for a month in Alabama so I've kinda seen the good and bad. I enjoy it though!
Tyler Davis did they make you leave money?
+Patrick star No you don't have to pay for anything to start off but as you go if you decide you want more pieces to bring on your demos you have to either win them through competitions or your fast start or you can buy them on the website for a discounted price. They give you plenty to start off but if you want to sell more it's easier if you can show them more. But you don't have to "leave money" even though I don't know what you meant by that. In my experience the majority of the people I've met at the office are friendly and it's been a sometimes frustrating but overall great chance to grow and learn
Tyler Davis by money I mean to pay the sets that you "start off" they made me and others pay for the items
+Patrick star That used to be the case where you had to buy it but now you only have to pay for it if you quit and keep the kit, or at least that's how it works here in Alabama
Do the math is the record is 6 and on average people do 2-3 Mc donalds out pays them by a mile. So 14x3= 42 and the average part time worker at mc donalds gets paid 8$ and works for 8. You make 22 more dollars working a part time shift at Mc Donald's than cutco.
I personally love it. The meetings are fun because they have agreed to let you meet with them witch means they are some what interested. All of the people I have met with were really cool and the demo was fun. Some one even invited me to stay for dinner. Its not for every one but it is certanly better than working fast food or some other sucky job.
Is that a Lego set in the background!
And the edge isnt serrated either
Do they ask for social security number in the interview
They never asked me for mine
I Have Training In A Week,But Im Trying To Figure Everything Out. Are You Fersure Gettig Paid $17 Every Appointment.?
Started working for Vector selling cutco a few weeks ago... In my first ten days I sold 10,396 CPO value of product. My first paycheck was for 2,060 dollars. Right now I'm working to sell a total of 30,000 CPO value of product at which point I will make a total of $10,000 cash for myself for the summertime. I've spent 150 dollars on gas. WORTH IT. Not a scam, it just takes a ton of work.
I just got hired and was "lent" my demonstration kit. I have the option of buying it at a highly discounted price if I want to keep it. I was told the policy is if you don't plan on any demonstrations for a week then it needs to be turned in until the next time you have demonstrations scheduled. Btw, I was a Cutco customer before I became a sales rep. The product sells itself, it's that good. As a consumer, I won't buy another brand of cutlery ever again.
Obviously selling cutco isn't for everyone, but the skills one can develop by working this job and breaking out of their shell, (ex. strong interpersonal communication skills, time management, goal setting, and even presentation skills, is phenomenal. It's definitely not a scam, but it also isn't for everyone. If you need to be told when to work, the job isn't for you. The flexibility is amazing, but it also requires discipline. The money making opportunity potential is ridiculous though.
So true. They target high schoolers and college kids for a reason because they know they can make it look like they are going to make money working "smarter" and not "harder". It is one of the oldest tricks in the sales reps and manager's books to tell these kids that. My step daughter tried this twice now with this company and VEMMA if you know what that one is, and both times i told her how hard it is to actually succeed. Although she was pissed at me, at least i got through.
I never said I was a college student. I'm a mother who needed a part time job, that's all. I cook for a family of 3 plus our room mate on a regular basis. When it comes to kitchen tools for me quality and warranty outweigh initial price. I'll pay that price if it means not buying another knife ever again for me or my child later. Working with Vector is my second job, btw. Anywho, did I say that college students are forced to buy? No, just said there was on option to if you don't want to borrow.
Well keep in mind vector is also trying to sell you on their company as well. this may be where the sketchy feeling comes in. If you think you can make the necessary calls and talk to people (or if you would like to work on your people skills and getting used to rejection) go for it.
i'm thinking about doing it. my friend started 4 days ago and made 300 bucks. so it's possible to make good money doing this.
Been with vector for a while now and this video is pretty accurate. Especially the when he says "is the company using you to make money?" obviously it's a yes. That's almost the definition of an employee. McDonald's uses their burger flippers to make money.
You don't have to pay for your sample kits anymore, they're simply lent out to you for free, you just have to submit an order of any quantity once a week in order to remain an "active" rep. Only trolls go online ranting about how it's a scam. I'm a rep and have been for over a year and have made 26k this year alone as an 18yr old college kid, ran my own office and sold 115k. Job isn't for everyone, retention rate is low, average is about a week. But if you ACTUALLY try, you'll do great. Trust me
I would call and let them know "thanks but no thanks," but yeah, they can't force you to show up
SAME THING HAPPENED to me. You pay for them on the 3rd day of training
Nice, I'm considering Navy as well, hope it works out for you :)
definitions of legal stuff should be looked up in Blacks Law Dictionary.
I disagree with you. First 10 days on the job I spent $80 on fuel and worked an average of 8 hours a day. After 10 days I got a paycheck for 2,060 dollars. That is about 6 times more money than I would have made at a Starbucks or Chipotle, assuming I was able to work that many hours. In regards to your comment about companies not caring about a person being with a company like this when they are starting out... top sales reps get a signed letter of rec. from the president of cutco.
i start training thursday n i really hope im not wasting my time
Cutco are the best that's can't get them in store I own a set of cut wear
you should do asmr. you have the perfect voice for it
Cutco uses a different edge then regular knives and the angle is different as well I knkw people who have every piece of cutco you can own and they love it. They wont testimonials for me.
My advise is to try it if you have an interest and drop it when you don't
Going to have to disagree with you. Several Fortune 500 business guarantee an interview to any applicant with a college degree and Vector experience. My dad is the head recruiter at Comcast (a Fortune 500 company), he knows what he is talking about. Other companies that stand behind the same claim: Motorola, Enterprise R-A-C, Best Buy, Liberty Mutual,
If you want to make real money you should look into other marketing opportunities. Wouldn't you rather work for yourself on your own time?
I Dont know what position you guys got but from my experience they are not crap, they are high quality knives, I mean come on the military uses the ka-bar that they manufacture in the same company so what does that say. And would you rather buy a product made from China? I wouldn't, usually they are crap. Cutco is made in America and has been around for decades so I can just say that the people slandering the company name probably packed the drive and motivation to excel in the position and really get the full vector experience. During the traong they repeat countless times that you get played a base rate per appt. The incentive pay comes into play when you exceed the base pay. Vector also has a great training program that looks great on any résumé
Shut up
Org Com CUTCO troller!
U sound like one of the people they brainwashed
Very solid video, thanks for posting. :)
you do realize a pyramid scheme is where you pay to sell right? the knives they give you to demo with are completely free to use, the training is free, and you are GUARANTEED pay for making an appointment. if you follow the guidelines and give somewhat of an effort, you will make money, but like the guy in the video said it isn't cut out for everyone, but it's not a pyramid scheme, please do more research before posting incorrect information about companies.
Very good, objective ideas. Thank you for clarifying some things.
You pay nothing now to start, you get free training and then you get sales experience and that can get you a job, if you're smart enough to make a simple resume.
I worked there for 3 months I made 300 bucks I worked hard but I find cutco a loss more then a gain
I worked for Vector too, had a similar experience
Just don't go. They'll find someone else to talk into it. It's not like they'll call future employers and tell them you were a no-show. Don't waste your time. They suckered my son into days of training only to hit him and the others up there for the price of a "demo kit."
With a script, you are taught how to act. Without a script, you are taught how to communicate. You were obviously taught the former not the latter.
Wait, did you record this in a closet?
Just responding to the last comment you left me. It surprises you that chefs comment on here giving positive feedback. Did it ever cross your mind that the reason for that is because chefs know about quality. Judging by the background in your video you dont. Not to mention, judging by your age and attire, your neither a home owner or in the market for high quality anything. Please save yourself the embarrassment of ranting on TH-cam trying to make Cutco look bad. You might as well stand at william sonoma and cosco and boycott Al Clad and Shun and anything else It wont make a difference because you aren't educated enough on the subject to keep the properly educated from making a purchase.
dude are you dense? at the end of the video he just said based on his personal experience no cut is not a scam
If dude is qualified to be a professional marketer of the organization, dude is qualified to review the program. He's seen it from the inside. How do we know the 'chefs' comments here are not Cutco representatives trolling and marketing? If I was a Cutco guru that's what I would be doing.
Mark Howard He clearly is neither a "professional" nor is he a "marketer" of this company. He was a representative for Cutco that was still in the training process of seeing his friends and family. If he were a "Cutco Sales Professional". He would not be making this video, one because he would have better things to do with his time and two, because he would have had a good experience and not a negative one. He would have a clientele base, would have sold at home shows and fairground shows, he would have a realtor gift sales clientele base and he would look like a professional. Please refrain from commenting on here again until you are educated enough or "qualified" to do so.
Thanks
Juan Preciado You have Cutco management potential written all over you Juan,
Thanks, you have McDonalds crew trainer management written all over you. Hey, if tou play your cards right maybe you'll get to wear a pretty blue shirt and polyester tie and be a manager ther. :D that would suit you well. Then you can share your ideas and thoughs all over somewhere else were they don't matter.
yes man awesome video, very objective and just plain true.
i just made 100 on my first day. if your good at sales then you do good.
Get a real job whether you want one or not. As long as you do good work at that job, and are a good employee overall, that "crappy" job you have now, will end up being able to be put on a better job application. IOW saying you sold CUTCO knives for a year to a regular employer will look bad for you compared to having a keeping a regular hourly job for that same year. You will have a more reliable reference that way.