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I wish I could delete this channel

Hi. Very interesting. If the video is public domain, may i use parts of it for a fictional film i'm making?

Is that a Lego set in the background!

If you have to start your argument by "defining the word scam," it's definitely a scam! Legalistic bullshit; and you work as a SALESMAN?!??

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Ben, my 2nd reply. You said in your last statement that it is not a scam. I would disagree with you. Vector marketing is indeed a scam. How were you lured to Vector??? They typically lure young people with the promise of a high hourly wage which you never actually get. And then during the selling process, you also don't get the hourly wage which does indeed make it a scam. Get real buddy.

Spot on analysis Ben & my biggest beef is the fact that they continue to dupe young college-aged kids into joining with the muse of a high wage (typically $17-18/hr), but they are never paid that amount because of fine print. A totally unethical company, the Vector Marking arm that is... The knives are so good, but why do they have to market the product so unethically???? Does is get passed down from the father to the kids? I don't know.

did they continue digging this and did they find anything? it's fascinating.

So quick question about vector: since they pay $18 per appointment regardless of whether or not you make the sale, could you in theory schedule a large number of "mock" appointments with people in my dorms, with no intent to actually sell them the knives, just to rack up that base rate?

You have to be a complete fucktard to get involved in stupid shit like this.

Vector and other mid-level marketing companies are not a scam in the sense that they are illegal, but they are shady as fuck because they pretend to need you as an employee, but really you are a CUSTOMER, not an employee. They want to "hire" you so you can sell your knives to your family and friends who'll be much more likely to buy from YOU than from some no-name salesbody. They get to reap all those profits and you get your "commission". In reality, they're just pretending you're some valued employee, but really they just view you as a potential customer.

First did you get punched in the face? Second you kinda look like you'd do good you look like a salesman or even scammer something about you looks dishonest maybe it's the fact that you are hiding in your closet makes me think your room is a mess or you are hiding something JUST AN FYI on your presentation

you have the perfect voice for asmr vids. so calm and relaxing.

you should do asmr. you have the perfect voice for it

You're reading, you're closing your eyes, you're whispering and most importantly you're not Cutting (get it, cutting ;) to the chase... Jesus Christ, if you don't think stealing your contacts, paying you nothing really, stealing your car gas and making you think and making you convince people that their knives are the best in the world is a scam tactic then there's a bridge in NYC I'm really interested in selling it to you because it would be the best deal in the world for you. See it as it is; it's a scam. My son was contacted by Vector (I bet the colleges sell their applicants' names because he received the letter the day he graduated high school) and went on a training session the next day. They didn't pay him a dime for the 9-4 "training", they fed him carrots and they asked him to give out contacts and sell on his own. They would give him $18 PER APPOINTMENT. They will give him later commission on selling their outrageously expensive knives (over $400 for an 8 knives set). My son does not know millionaires so he won't be selling sets of knives anytime soon. Do yourself a favor, call a temp company for office work or call around trades (HVAC supply, ELECTRIC supply, PLUMBING supply...) It's only a part time job until you go to college right? Why be scammed by these slashers? Call office buildings, anything ask for a stock boy job, an in office mail carrier, an office helper taking care of printer papers, fax machines... ANYTHING BUT BEING SCAMMED!

So I did the interview and got the job easy. now they say they pay you per appointment is 18$. My question is how will they know you did your appointment and did your presentation? can you just tell them you did 10 appointments and 10 presentations and get paid?

it seems that the only people who think Cutco is a scam are the people who cant afford them?! I have a set and my parents have had a set for thirty years, yes, the prices are high but they last forever and are guaranteed forever, you'll buy ten set during your live of the garbage that you get at Walmart and buy again and again because its junk!! you'll spend more in the long run than I will!

I like your beard

Do they ask for social security number in the interview

He looks like a young stoned Johnny Depp

There are people who do make money selling Cutco. See this link: www.prweb.com/releases/2015/SethKinzer/prweb12733426.htm. The problem as I see it, is that Vector falsely advertises their positions as though it is an hourly position. For instance $14 an hour. Therein lies the problem. Why not just tell the truth? Because very few would apply if they advertised it truthfully.

you talk slow like you are fucking baked

what if i in high school? i fucked right since i dont know tons of 30 years olds

My only complaint is that this video doesn't have more views. Every once in a while one of these videos pops up on my feed and I watch it for shits and giggles at the people who(obviously) expected it to be an easy job and bitch about it being a scam. This is the first I've seen that tells the truth: it's not for everyone but the experience gained is unmatched. I've been with the company for well over a year, hit the 50% commission level and also took a District Manager promotion. For those that say this job ruins family relations- I'm sorry your family is so fragile. A typical family that isn't interested in the product would just say 'no' and move on. For those that say you're screwed without a big network to start- I started in a small farm town and my nearest neighbor was over a mile away. Quit bitching about your circumstances and take action!!!

Is a SCAM !!!

Ok, I just don't know what to do anymore. I just got a letter today from Vector and now, after searching the internet, I'm stuck. On one hand, I need money for college. I can't just let my parents do all the work. Not to mention, I need experience and need to improve on social skills and really all work skills since I have none. However, on the other hand, since I have no social skills, nervous with people and pretty lazy at times, so selling wouldn't be up my alley personally. Also, everyone is talking about scams and the such, but I can't believe everything the internet says, of course. So, here I am, stuck at a crossroads. I'm gonna show my mom the letter, she'll probably be just as skeptical. Ugh, I just don't know what to do... Any advice out there?

An average college student will not have many married individuals over the age of 30 in their network. Once such a household is found, the household will choose whether or not to allow a near stranger into their home to demonstrate knife cutting 0.0. Then the household will choose whether or not to buy the knife-set. Each appointment is $17 revenue for you; however the amount of time you spend searching for an appropriate candidate will likely outweigh your benefit. Ergo, you will likely spend hours each day looking for 1 appointment. Analyzing what I have written above, perhaps 5% of a student's known network meets the criteria. Then perhaps 20% of the 5% will allow an appointment; and an even smaller amount will purchase the knives. How much time will you waste narrowing down to that one successful customer? Vector is therefore unprofitable for the average candidate, and a candidate with an extremely wide network and/or amazingly strong sales skills (though somewhat irrelevant as if consumer does not demand product, sales will have no effect) should be smart enough to invest in something other than Cutco knives to sell, which lack brand differentiation and cost advantage in the kitchen knife market, and gives a low 10% profit margin for each sale.

I Dont know what position you guys got but from my experience they are not crap, they are high quality knives, I mean come on the military uses the ka-bar that they manufacture in the same company so what does that say. And would you rather buy a product made from China? I wouldn't, usually they are crap. Cutco is made in America and has been around for decades so I can just say that the people slandering the company name probably packed the drive and motivation to excel in the position and really get the full vector experience. During the traong they repeat countless times that you get played a base rate per appt. The incentive pay comes into play when you exceed the base pay. Vector also has a great training program that looks great on any résumé

1949 Isn't over a century xD

Cutco knives are awesome!

And the edge isnt serrated either

Cutco uses a different edge then regular knives and the angle is different as well I knkw people who have every piece of cutco you can own and they love it. They wont testimonials for me.

I bought an $800 dollar set in 2001. I love them. If they get dull, which my paring knife has, send it back, they will sharpen it free...

I've worked for Cutco and I wouldn't say its a pure scam. But they do mislead people into joining their team. I was a secretary and my job was to read a script over the phone from a list of people who heard we were hiring (they're always hiring) and were interviewed the same day. The interviewer asks the interviewees to give a list of names with numbers of friends who they think might also need work. Those phone numbers go to my list and I would call them. I would tell them that the new hire, (your friend so and so) suggested they might need some extra work and were "recommended" to us. After mentioning there is no experience necessary since Vector will train you, the caller is willing to listen and continue the call with interest. That person who I'm on the phone with is desperate for work and thinks its the perfect job once we tell them that the job is a 16$ pay rate, BUT we DON"T mention its 'per appointment' UNLESS they ask. They don't comprehend this quickly enough to realize its not paid hourly. That means, you could be presenting your products to them for more than an hour. The secretaries are sure they got the caller in their grasp after hearing the excitement in his/her voice about the pay which results in immediate group hires. Everyday, there was a new group dressed in professional attire who arrived thinking this job was an important/fancy company who hired only business like people. The employer who is interviewing will hire ANYONE who applies. They will make it sound like your joining an important company but they will take anybody. The script they give the secretaries to read are constantly updated to persuade and manipulate the person we are calling to join the team and by making the job sound absolutely perfect but without lying to the caller and by keeping it vague. Our goal was to try to get people to come in for an interview the same day so we could get more names and numbers by the end of the day. Cutco/Vector gets new employees and money by interviewing a ton of people and advertising that they're hiring for 16$/hr on job sites like monster or indeed jobs, even flyers around campuses or colleges. During your interview, your asked to give the company some phone numbers of people who need a job (this happens all the same day) and we would call them to come in for an interview because they were "recommended" to us. They focus and aim for college students or high school graduates. Once hired, you give out even more names to your employer and he/she puts in the system for all the vector marketing secretaries from around United States to call. They even train the secretaries on voice tone, objections and have serious call conferences with other secretaries from around the nation. Not only that, but they go even further to give the secretaries homework/tests after the conferences to answer the test question. After every conference, which is Tuesday mornings at 10 am, we would have to email the answer to the question. Yes, I just quit this job recently because it didn't seem right. I felt like I was manipulating a person desperate for a job. Every time I made contact with someone I called and read the script word for word, I felt like I was misleading people into joining a job that's more like a door to door job and answering vaguely to questions my caller would ask. I never answered in detail by following the script. Even tho they say its not door to door or cold calling, it really is. Here is an example of the short version of the script: "Hi _____, my name is Melissa and I'm a secretary for Vector Marketing. I'm calling because ______ recommended you for a position to work in our company. You get paid 16$ per appointment. Its not based on commission but it has a commission opportunity." " That's just a small part of the script. They even have objection responses for those that are sketchy about the position or have a question. The client's question is NEVER answered in detail, its answered very vaguely. As far as purchasing from them, they are worth the money because the company keeps the knifes sharp and they are very very very good knifes. If your knifes break, the company will fix them for you and do everything they say they promised. They live up to their guarantee. The products are the highest quality you'll ever find in the United States, that's why they are so extremely expensive. After working there for a few months, I would say that there is nothing wrong with the product. The only problem I don't like about Vector is the way the company manipulates the people who are desperate for work. Most of the people I called were mothers looking for an easy job and they came to the interview very disappointed. I don't suggest working for them unless you LOVE being a salesman and your absolutely sure that the numbers you give to the company are customers looking for products to buy and friends who also like being a salesman. I remember calling people who the new hires gave numbers to us secretaries and 95 % of them asked me to stop calling them or would get offended for having that new hire "recommend" them to us because they were adults with already over paid jobs. Yes, the secretaries at Vector will be calling one number at least 3-5 times a week. For those that want to work for Vector: Here are the Pros and Cons I found.. Pros) They teach you great business and communication skills. After working with them, you feel like your better at handling business than any CEO ever could. The training is amazing and your fellow coworkers are very friendly and helpful. Its a social and professional feel. You gain useful skills like time management and social skills that most business students will die to learn. You gain not only skills but confidence in yourself after the first 2 days of training. Your an expert at knifes and kitchenware. You'll be able to become a powerful spokesman and excellent chef. I mention chef because they teach employees how to cut the food properly and efficiently under a manner of seconds for demonstrations to the customers. Cons) You will regret giving out the numbers from your friends who need a job because we will be calling them like a telemarketer would and they will be extremely annoyed. You will be calling your friends, friends of friends and relatives. These people will help you get even more numbers to call which will result in a huge list of numbers that belong to your friends parents, your friends of friends parents and so on. Somebody's parents. Basically on the phone ALL THE TIME! All day every day. Your not getting paid while on the phone, no overtime while presenting your product and you will not be paid for training which is about 3 days after you've been hired. Your practically a salesman, trying to sell things to your friends parents. Yes, parents only. No single adults but parents because the parents have money and moms always love new kitchen knifes. If your okay with calling a ton of people, presenting the product in your clients home no matter how long it may take and managing your own time, then you will do awesome at this company. Its not for everybody. But it does pay well if you work hard. No job is easy. All I'm gonna say to end this long review from working for Vector is if a job sounds too good to be true, it usually is. If you feel like you can do it, you can and there is nothing stopping you but yourself.

I'm working for them as I type. In my fast start (I'm on day 3) I've sold close to 2,000 dollars worth already and personally made 350 dollars for only 5 hours of work. I will say you're right, it's not for everyone. I still feel it's not for me, but what I'm doing seems to be working. I just keep my positive attitude towards clients at all times, crack a couple jokes here and there, don't force them into anything, and bam I give them a good deal in the end. It may take from my cut, but you know what? That's okay. I made a friend out of it and we both leave happy with smiles on our faces.getting to know friends of friends family is actually really fun and being able to build a quick connection with your new customers is key.

They are lazy and they want energizer young kids just got out of high school and like to get some quick cash. Because younger people have more energy to run around and stuff. They all in a room 12 people run the business. These 12 people are overlooking the interview process (like watching TV). and they are like this, this dummy sold a $500 knife and we made 485 dollars and you made 15$ Which is really 12$ and theirs is 450$ .

Thanks I had a interview tomorrow and was gonna turn down working at Sears , glad I didn't call Sears. not showing up to interview.

I'm happy you tried the position man, it's not for everyone, but it does at least give you some valuable lessons while trying it.

Thanks dude i have an interview tomorrow. Oll try it out but if i dont like it ill stop. Oh and were you in your closet

You look like L from death note

This guy is Ether High As Hell, OR He's Really, Really Dumb, And Slow!!!!!!!!!!

i think the only reason why some people might think its a scam because they come up to be like to good to be true and like the rest of America people are scared of new things and when something great like this company comes around they just want to demonize it and make it sound likes shit.

You pay nothing now to start, you get free training and then you get sales experience and that can get you a job, if you're smart enough to make a simple resume.

If you sharpen this crap your self you will notice it's not a good knife. They use cheap steal plus a poor heat treatment. Chinese companies make better knives then them for around 30 dollars which is a good knife for use and very good blade to learn how to sharpen on.

I just received a letter from Vector and researched the company a bit. I found this video very informative, so thanks for making it!

This guy pretty much gets it. All companies hire you to make money on you, derp. get over it, make it work for YOU.

definitions of legal stuff should be looked up in Blacks Law Dictionary.

Thank you so much for explaining your thoughts and experience with this company. Personally I feel nothing sells better then word of mouth especially to people whom opinions you value. Cutco seems to understand this and uses that to it's advantage by selling their products by appointment with a sales representative. I love that Cutco mainly hires students with very little work experience at all. One of my students who recently graduated paid me a visit and did a demonstration for me. I was very impressed with Cutco's warranty and quality. It allows students to gain work experience as sales reps and sell a quality products at the same time. These knives are not cheap but a lifetime warranty backed by a solid company makes it worth the money.

Cutco is not a scam. However, there is a difference between a scam and a dumb pointless job. If anyone excelled more power to you. But, you go around selling knives going door to door or (or customer referrals same bull shit) and they cost a fortune. If i remember correctly, one table knife is $30 and the sets go up to $4000. How many chefs can their be in this world who would actually know the quality and not have some kid talking about how great they are. Also if family or friends wont buy to get you started then you are screwed no matter how great you are. My uncle gave me $200 and said keep the knives. My dad gave me $100 and said quit the job the next day which i did. I did everything they asked but Cutco is a dumb job i would not recommend.

Just responding to the last comment you left me. It surprises you that chefs comment on here giving positive feedback. Did it ever cross your mind that the reason for that is because chefs know about quality. Judging by the background in your video you dont. Not to mention, judging by your age and attire, your neither a home owner or in the market for high quality anything. Please save yourself the embarrassment of ranting on TH-cam trying to make Cutco look bad. You might as well stand at william sonoma and cosco and boycott Al Clad and Shun and anything else It wont make a difference because you aren't educated enough on the subject to keep the properly educated from making a purchase.