Love your videos as always. I gotta say… I’m a Western PA native (Irwin), spent most of my time working random construction jobs in Braddock, and after a couple rough and hot summers on a roof watching airplanes fly overhead, I swore I’d go to college and become a pilot. I went through the USAF, got my bachelors and 2 masters degrees, served 20+ years in the USAF and now I’m an airline Captain. Why does that matter? Well, it doesn’t, other than the fact that you and I are probably polar opposites in so many ways. But I never forgot my roots. I spent just enough time working construction to realize that it’s not for me. I admire the hell out of you - you’re not only a superb real world problem solver, but you’re also a great educator. My 11 year old son hates school but loves working with his hands. The 2 of us spend a lot of time watching your videos and I think it’s great to show him a role model like you. Thanks for all that you do - not just for the railroad, but for a lot of kids out there who are smart enough to resist the urge to go to college for a worthless degree and instead not be afraid to follow your footsteps and work with your hands.
Well golly globetruck what a totally awesome comment. I thank you so much for your very kind words. I went to college for 2 semesters and realized that was not for me. Saved my parents a lot of money! LOL A young man that wants to work with his hands in this day and age is a priceless commodity. I sincerely wish for your son the most prosperous of a future and I'm not Dr. Phil, but your son will never feel satisfied until he follows what his heart is telling him in his career choice, whatever choice that may be. it's a pleasure for me to go to work in the morning, because I love what I do. Really appreciate your great support of the channel my friend.
Wow, that rail was rolled in 1975, the year I graduated high school. It held up better than I have but I'm not being replaced either, LOL! Thanks for showing us everything.
I graduated in 72 John. And, I'm not being replaced either..... So do appreciate your tuning in tonight to the channel and taking in the presentation my friend. The 70's were some great years!
Hey Dave. I’ve been kind of curious whether after China started recycling scrap steel if you started seeing any steel brought in from China? I guess it depends whether you have a source guide from product brought from there. With China trying to overtake American producers in other fields I have to wonder if they’ve done it in the railroad industry as well. On a more personal level my dad worked for the railroad as a block operator until he retired in 1980. I can recall stories where he allowed time for maintenance crews to do repairs between trains. It always amazed me how you guys could accomplish so large a task in the small window between trains! I remember how my dad had a similar demeanor to yours while on the job. Hats off to you all for what could be a stressful job pace while maintaining a sense of humor in the time allotted. Stay safe!🙏👍❤️😉
I saw a tie plate a while ago from the 40's That thing was near perfect no dents no rust nothing considered taking it home but I have 3 other plates already I can't store it no where
I am an engineer that works on analytical instrumentation measuring elemental composition. Some of our inorganic customers provide rail and they’re extremely careful to weed out impurities, but it’s impossible to get them all! Glad we have guys like you to keep a watchful eye on the tracks.
Now that's a mouthful saying all that Super Hero! I had to read it twice to get it right! Sounds very technical to me. Impurities in the rail have been a problem since steel rail was first made back in the late 1800's. Even with today's high tech rail rolling science, eliminating 100% of the impurities is not gonna happen 100% of the time. Controlled Cooling was a big advancement in eliminating hydrogen from the rail, but it is not 100% effective. Appreciate your paying a visit today and watching my good man.
@@ccrx6700 indeed, most of the mills I visit don’t even monitor for hydrogen anymore. They focus on Oxygen Nitrogen Carbon and Sulfur. It’s pretty cool to see how important elemental makeup is during the melt. The melt guys won’t move a muscle until the lab ok’s the numbers.
No rest even on a Sunday! Your railroad is lucky to have good men taking care of maintenance, it doesn't look like an easy fix when the rail is damaged! Thank you for sharing Dave!
re: 7:35 You explained to me about your railroad and not governed by FRA or 49CFR but to me it's so awkward to see the hoghead 'BACKING'(Long Hood Forward)and no headlight or 'Ditch Lights' or a 'Man on the Point'. But as you said, your railroad isn't governed by the Feds so you can 'Railroad Any Old Way You Want' despite 'Best Practices'. Thanks for the video. When I was in the track dept with Penn Central we would manually 'Tamp' most of the time acct no Mechanical Tamper or Ballast regulator. Doing it manually was just the way it was done in 1973 and we didn't think anything about it. We even ,manually carried 39 foot lengths of rail in the yard with rail tongs and as many able bodies we could find. Fond memories.
Keep this in mind Wes, at any one point in time, depending on locos being down or in for inspections, any of the 3 locos may be leading coming back with loads, so thus the short nose is always in the lead with loads. If it was up to me we would be patrolled by FRA, but it is their choice not to come here. We are a coal mine with a RR, not a RR in and of itself. The FRA considers us as "an in plant installation" and thus has chosen not to come here. We are governed by CFR Title 30 which covers the mining industry. And we are patrolled by Mine Safety Health Admin, fed mine inspectors and also Pa. State mine inspectors, but sadly they know very little about CFR Title 49 which governs the RR industry. That is totally awesome to me you worked with Penn Central, wow would I ever love to sit down and listen about your days there!
I'm glad you share this as people (myself included somewhat) don't always realize whats involved in railroad maintenance and keeping things running safe and smoothly! Always remember it's the little things that can kill you!.....good catch here Dave!
Thank you very much irongoatrocky for the very kind words. We do appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Gonna be a follow up vid on this, we changed the rail out friday and found some new evidence when we saw what was inside the rail, it had been broken before I clamped it. Hope I can get that video edited and out this week for you.
I will make sure to write more about all the wonderful, hardworking people who toil day and night, sometimes in rough weather, so our infrastructure is kept safe.
When you show things at different angles and sides, it allows everyone to see the damage so much better. Great video Dave, love learning all about the railroad. The beginning of your videos makes us smile when we see your smiling face and hear your music. Have a great weekend.
Thank you Valerie for your always sweet comments. Always makes my day when I see you have written in. Appreciate so much all your great support my friend.
W O W! You really packed a lot of railroading into this video. I was amazed a flattened head compromised the rail structure that much. Keep up the great work. Really appreciate you taking the time to spread the knowledge. 👍
Glad you enjoyed the show T.J. There had to be an internal defect in that head someplace also. Will take joint apart and look see inside the rail when we get a new stick put in there. Very much appreciate the nice comment my friend.
You are indeed blessed it didn't snap with a fully loaded train going over it! Glad you keep the rails safe as possible. Neat patch with the joint bar! Thank you for bringing us another fine video.
Evening Dave! Great job staying on top of things, catching potential problems, and even though you had a little bad luck, you're keeping the rail safe. Thanks for another great video!
Thank you very much Jim for the very kind words. Your very welcome for the video, it's my pleasure and an honor for me to be able to share with you guys. Really appreciate all your great comments and support you give the channel my friend.
Your company is lucky to have you Dave! You can fix things temporarily or (semi) permanently - whatever it takes to get the job done! A lot of companies don't have anyone like that because nobody seem to stick with their jobs these days! It looks like your fix will do the job just fine until you can get that new section welded-in. Good job Dave😊
Thanks so much my good friend for the very kind words. You'll be glad to know, that rail broke last Sunday and Friday we got it changed out, a big relief for me as you can imagine, I think it was time bomb waiting for part of the head to separate and break out. Really appreciate your nice visit with me today.
I just discovered “That’s railroading” today and have been bing watching episodes. I’m on the Colorado Railroad Museum’s volunteer track crew. I really appreciate these videos and have already learned a lot.
Thank you Gus and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy. Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine: th-cam.com/video/oOug0z34118/w-d-xo.html Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out. th-cam.com/users/ccrx6700
Very interesting that lifting the rail to get one job done can also help find the weak rails when lifting them if they break. Nothing like a new replaced rail to keep at ease. Great vid as always! :)
Dave: Love the new intro, Many times we had to follow a tamper, sometimes there would be a section crew behind the tamper and then we would follow both of them, repairing bonds etc.... Thats Railroading RIGHT
Repairing bonds is generally the signalman's job because that is what the bonds are for unless the line has catenary for electric propulsion then the bonds are very big.
Hey Dave. Nice work on that temporary repair. Interesting how the head just separated and deformed like that. That was probably an imperfection from the foundry or forge or wherever that rail was made that probably allowed a little water in there once it was exposed. And then rust jacking took care of the rest. I look forward to seeing the rail replacement when you guys get time and materials/equipment ready. And always a good video when one of the big SD's comes in for a close up.
Thanks so much Shane for the very nice comment. That broke last Sunday and today we got the rail changed, another big relief. Management came thru on this one and got me a grapple truck in here within 5 days, a major accomplishment since Frontier RR Services is up to their neck in work right now on other jobs. Do appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
Rails are hot rolled from cast billets - entrapped mold release (for continious billets) or entrapped slag/reoxidation, non-metallic inclusions, poor billet pre-conditioning or damage in reheating or even in rolling (lap) defects are a few of the many casues of poor rail quality - each one should be investgated. In this case look like sub-surface rolling contact fatigue cracking (Spalling).
When you said to hold on as you were climbing up the steps I literally was looking for the handrails and chuckling along with you. Very interesting segment and thanks for taking us along!
Someday Peter I'm gonna figure out how to mount a camera so you can watch me climb on a rail car and loco. Give some safety tips on how to do it. Thanks so much for visiting with me and checking out the show my friend.
Dave, another great video. Like you said, it is a good thing the the train didn't take that rail out. Looks like the temporary will do fine until you can get the rail replaced.
Thank you Tom! New evidence has come to light. We changed this rail on Friday. Will have a follow up video, hope I can get it edited to come out this week. Base had been broken for some time, we are so fortunate that a train hadn't broken it completely before. Appreciate so much for your great support of the channel my friend.
Good job Dave, don't want the train breaking it with a bunch of cars to work the devil out of it, now it's got a little help keeping it together until things can be worked out to fix it the right way. I could tell you were relieved about when it did break. Every spare moment doesn't seem to be enough to keep that line from mud jacking, that was a serious glop of mud at some point. ATB, you won one this time!
Thanks so much Lee for the very nice comment. That broke last Sunday and today we got the rail changed, another big relief. Management came thru on this one and got me a grapple truck in here within 5 days, a major accomplishment since Frontier RR Services is up to their neck in work right now on other jobs. Do appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
I was told about your channel and I'll watch every video I can for my book research :D A lot of people these days can't realize that all of that infrastructure needs maintaining by hard working guys like you!
Thank you for the very kind words Aragmar, glad to hear you are finding something of value here. Appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 It took me many years, but I finally published some of my books. I am getting better with each story I write :D Recently, with the help of my good fans, I made and uploded on youtube, my first video.
I am learning more about what it takes to properly maintain a railroad than I ever imagined. You present a side that few cover and your explanations are totally clear. This is very enlightening. Thanks, Dave!
Thank you very much Bill for the nice comment and for taking the time to check out the video today. So glad to hear you are having a good time with us. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Well, you tried to show the ballast dump but your camera had other ideas. There will be other times. That defect in the rail was going to break sometime and I don't think it's your fault. I am glad you make these videos to teach us city folk the ins and outs of railroading.
Thank you very much Nancy for the very kind words. We do appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Am going to have a follow up vid on the break, some new info has come to surface, so watch for it to come out this week I hope.
The broken rail at 9:56 is absolutely astonishing. Thanks for the video! I legitimately love the sounds of all the machines idling when you were talking.
First time anyone ever told me I did a good job breaking a rail..... :-) But your right, so much better me than a train Derrick. hey maybe the more rails I break the more pay I will get???? LOL Thanks so much for watching today my friend.
Great video Dave. I really enjoyed watching it with my morning coffee. I love how you used a straight edge to give us a better idea of the deformation. Have a great day my friend.
You ask a big question and a legitimate one, wish I had the answers, rail maintenance is everything to keeping trains running. Really appreciate your stopping by to visit with us and watch the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Love your laugh Dave - it's clear you have a wonderful, joyful, perspective on life. I see and hear you and I think you are "Tom Bombadil of the Rails:" _Tom Bombadil ties & spikes a-bringing._ _Comes hopping home again. Can you hear him singing?_ _He's got just the song for Old Man Ribbon-Rail!_ _Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! and merry-o: ring-a-ding-dillo!_ (With apologies & gratitude to JRR Tolkien.)
Thank you very much Brettany Renee for the nice comment. Glad you enjoyed. Beautiful name you have. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Great video Dave, good camera angles to see the details. That broken part of the rail had a lot of rust in it as well, could have failed at any time. Great it happened during tampering. The term Spalling is also used in the electrical industry on concrete power poles, when the rebar has rusted and is cracking the concrete of the actual power pole.
Thank you so much Rodalco for the very nice comment. We do appreciate your taking the time to check out the video. May you have a really good day my friend.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you are finding the videos interesting Jim. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
you are such a nice and down to earth person, I really love your videos and the way you present them. My grandfather used to work on rail years ago here in Australia.
Thank you Darryl, for the very nice comment. So glad to hear you are enjoying all the home movies. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch them my friend. I would have loved talking with your grandfather.
Nice work Dave. Always attending to the details that matter and potentially saving the company from a major outlay had they not been detected. Well done to repair crew on the temporary fix. Let's you sleep well at night! 🙂
We had the tampers break a lot of yard rail on us especially when I first started when the rail was very old and brittle before they did major upgrades to our RR yards. They would also break joint bars if they had a hairline crack that was already apparent. Nice video once again Dave and have a great rest of your evening.(Steve)
Jackson sales reps used to use the pitch: More insertions, deeper penetration, and we don't charge extra for finding weak spots in the rail. I've broken joint bars also, that's railroadin. LOL Thanks for watching the show my good friend. PS: we changed that rail Friday, new evidence came to light, the base had already been broken before I clamped it. Video out on that coming up.
Another one of your awesome videos for us Dave. That's a good thing you found that bad spot on the rail. I can tell you know a lot about all of these fixes that can be done on the track.
Dave nice temporary repair on the rail. Nice catch on the spalding I guess there is no way of telling how long it will last just as we saw. Great job as always hope you have a great day. ❤🇨🇦
Thank you Ray. Rail broke last Sunday and this Friday we got it changed out, a big relief to me, I will sleep better now. Really appreciate all your nice comments and great support you have given us my friend.
Thanks Dave Bad luck on the rail, but good luck that you found it, I bet that it wouldn't be good for a train to run over it and it being broken. Thanks again Dave.
Job security Beverly. That broke last Sunday and this Friday we got the rail changed, so I can sleep better now. Thanks so much my friend for visiting with me today and watching.
Glad you like the intro daveogarf, it is the creation of Alex Sawyers who is a subscriber and former loco engineer. Lots of good feed back on it. Really appreciate your writing in and for watching my friend.
Sounds to me that you have a greater attention to detail about faulty rails than some railroads that have been in the news recently. Keep up the videos, you obviously know your topic, and the straight and honest explanations are rare and appreciated. 👍
Thank you very much Meriphistimo for the kind words. We certainly do appreciate your visiting with us and checking out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Well Dave, they can't blame you for this one, rail from 1975 that had a flaw, you can see it was that way deep inside for a while. Very glad it didn't fail with a loaded train.. good job getting it taken care of. Are you the one that has to call in a crew or does some one in an office do that.. Great video, be safe out there.
Thanks Pappy for the very nice comment. Several have said, it broke cause the rail was made in China. I said it was Illinois, 1975 US Steel and if it had been made in China it never would have last half this long....LOL Really appreciate your visit with me today my good friend.
Thank you for the very nice comment. Glad you are enjoying watching the home movies and that they calm you. Railroading is a lot of fun and I do love being a part of that, so very blessed that I can share them with you my friend.
Anytime I love railroading always been fascinated by trains. Looks like fun ! I’ll trade you jobs for the day! I’ll work on trains you can grow cranberries!! Fair deal. Lol
I’ve found your channel, and sir it’s every thing I’ve been curious about, I deliver specialty gas to the rail industry and was always fascinated on what causes failure and fixes.
Thank you Cheek ripper D for the very nice comment, glad to hear you are enjoying the home movies. Really appreciate your checking out the channel. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Thank you for showing us this excellent work, it was a very impressive clean up of the ballast. It is impossible to see what is happening inside the metal of the track until these things take place, though the railroad company in the area that I live has some very expensive, ultrasonic test trains which can detect things happening. Sometimes wheelslip can cause similar problems. These videos are really helpful for the people in educating them as to what goes into keeping the railroad safe and running to its greatest potential.
New evidence has come to light John, we changed that rail on Friday and found that the base had already been broken, I just finished it off with tamper. Will be a video out on it soon. Thanks for visiting with me and checking out the show my friend. We do get the ultrasconic rail testers in here also when they are available. Since we are so small they want the big jobs, not the little ones and they too are short on people.
Broken Rail, Broken Equipment, Mud-Coal Fines in your Ballast. I have to say David you are constantly in McGyver mode, making the best of what you have to work with and often not much time to do it. Our fascination with your work is obvious and unfotunately some of the best videos are just awful messes for you so this footage comes at a price and we realize that and appreciate it.
Thanks so much kurtzbradley for the very nice comment. Really do appreciate all the great support and kind words you have given the channel for such a long time now my friend.
Hi Dave, @4:16 I noticed a discoloration in the railhead surface about 1 inch to the left of the spalled area. It almost loos like a crack straight across the head section. There also looks to be a possible crack on the field side of the rail head from where the surface discoloration meets traveling diagonally to the right. Looks like the head was already cracked and the tamper just finished the job. Cheers.
Very good observation Samuel, I think you are right, was already cracked. Thank you so much for visiting with us and watching. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
I knew rails can warp in extreme heat as I've witnessed multiple times during extreme heat waves here in Melbourne Australia, but for them to crack like that. Bloody heck! Always a pleasure watching your videos. Cheers!
Thank you so much Ondrej for taking the time to tune in to the channel and check out the video my friend. Hope you have a really good day. Great to hear you are enjoying the home movies.
great video. your love for your job really makes your channel. my brother and i sit in the garage on sunday mornings watching your adventues. thank you for sharing
Thank you for the nice comment Edward, glad to hear you are enjoying the videos. A lot of railroaders watch them, I'm flattered at that. Very much appreciate your taking the time to check out the Broken Rail video my friend.
I figured you might break that crushed head rail with the tamper. I would make that spot priority number one with the shut down. Looked like you needed a couple of ties, one at a joint. Those battered heads are nothing to play around with, change them out as soon as you find it. That other joint has you wanted to remove has a battered end, is not bad, something to keep an eye on. Great work and video. Thanks for sharing with us Dave.
Rail got changed up there today Zach, I wasn't on that job so don't know exactly what they did yet. For sure changing that rail was a priority and glad it's now done. It was just another accident waiting to happen if we hadn't. Very much appreciate your visit with me today my good friend.
That's interesting Dave. Quite something that defect in the rail. On the big company railroads that have those fancy inspection cars, would they pick up defects like that? Spalding? We saw that in concrete where the rebar got exposed to moisture via a crack and started to corrode. The concrete institute says the rebar can expand through corrosion to 7 times its size thus causing the concrete to fracture spald. Worst I saw was on a concrete breakwater in Richards Bay. Can also happen when the concrete coverage of the rebar to little. Nice one again Dave.
Glad you like the presentation Bill. We do get the rail testers in here, usually twice a year. We changed that rail out Friday and found some new evidence, the rail base had been broken for some time, I just finished it off. Certainly the testers would have found a broken base. it's not easy to get testers in here because we are such a small RR. They want big jobs and as with everything else are hurting for employees, so they come only when they happen to be passing through.
Always something to do here James, and with only 2 track guys and having to work around trains, it's really hard to try and keep up. But one thing all that work does, is it makes for a lot of good videos.... LOL Really appreciate your tuning in to the show today and watching my friend.
Well Dave your jobs to do are piling up . There always seems to be something cropping up Good job you found that break in the rail when you did . Or it may have caused a derailment. Nice job 👍👍👍👍👍
Jobs piling up in the past 18 years I've been full time track man haven't stopped or slowed down either John.... sigh..... Always something needs done here. Heavy coal loads and jointed track is a curse. Thank you for visiting with us to check out the video my friend.
Howdy Dave! Kinda some bad luck but worked out to your advantage being able to replace a couple of joiners. I hope she stays together till ya can get a new piece welded in. Thanks for the video, stay safe!!
Thanks so much Rick for the very nice comment. That broke last Sunday and today we got the rail changed, another big relief. Management came thru on this one and got me a grapple truck in here within 5 days, a major accomplishment since Frontier RR Services is up to their neck in work right now on other jobs. Do appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
2:00 There's a railway crossing near where I lived that looked like that for several years before they finally corrected the situation. By the time they got around to do it, the rail was bouncing up and down at least 2 inches when a train went through. It was pumping mud all over the place. The fix happened not long after the Lac Mégantic disaster. I actually live a little over an hour away from there. Some of our fire crews went there. As tragic as it sounds, I think that the only reason that it finally got fixed is because of that tragedy. Right after that crossing, there is a pair of curves before the train reaches the city center. They upgraded them to continuous welded rails and added a cant angle. As nice as it looks right now, my experience tells me that it likely won't get touched again for at least another decade. With our winters, things can move a lot and they can move fast. Over the last few years, the river has eaten up a very large portion of the land that used to separate it from the railway. As unprotected as that river bank is, I would not be surprised to hear that the curve has fallen into the river in a few years. They fixed the railway and did not bother to make sure that it was properly protected against the assaults of the river. It's just my impression, but I think that basically sums up how railway maintenance in Canada. It is patchwork that only partially addresses problems until the next problem rears up its ugly head.
Thank you very much Jonathan for taking the time to watch the video and share with us your thoughts. All railroads have problems, some worse than others. I'm not making excuses for any other RR, but here you do what we can with the amount of track time, money and equipment available, plus there are only 2 of us who maintain the track.
great job showing how to repair the failed Railroad track's. it is always so interesting seeing the flaws that come up on the rails.probably over time they get ware and tare from the cars rolling across the rails under loads. moving and flexing as it rolls over the rails. hope that you have a great labor day celebration. take care and stay healthy barry
Dave, here in the UK we use Hadfield Manganese steel. It has up to 13% Manganese in it. This gives it the property of ‘work hardening’ the surface due to the action of the wheels. Where you have a defect I expect this will get excessive pounding from the wheels and a extra hard skin forms on the rail. This eventually gives up and you get the spalling.
Thank you for the excellent info Peter, I will have to do some research on that. That stuff gets hard, wondering if you guys have rail grinding program and how the stones hold up grinding that stuff???. We appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Dave I said it once months ago I'll say it again I have never met anybody so happy with their life I don't know how you do it I don't know how you're happy all the time boy am I jealous
Thank you very much GMCGUY for the kind words. I do have my down days tho, like everyone else, but can't show them on a video on a family friendly channel.... LOL The energy you give off is the energy you get back. That is probably the greatest thing thing I have learned in this life. I once was a loser and a wimp, I didn't like myself and I was miserable most of the time. But over the course of time, I made better choices and learned how to be successful and like myself. The best thing you can ever do is to feel good about yourself. I'm not trying to be a preacher or tell you how to live your life, but just sharing what has worked for me, only since you asked. Everyone in life has their own unique situations and challenges and contrasts. Each person has to make their own choices based on their experiences, circumstances and what they decide is best for themselves.
Thank you Ron for the kind words, but you never been around me in the early mornings.... LOL Very much appreciate your popping in today and taking in the show my friend.
Glad you enjoyed Russell. Thanks so much for tuning in and checking out the show today my friend. That happened last Sunday and today that rail got changed out. A big relief for me.
Another informative video Dave it makes me wonder if that rail had a void in it when it was made, and over the years the weight of the train wheels weakened and collapsed it.
Thank you Agostino for the kind words. I do believe you are right, rail had a small inclusion in it from rolling, often that inclusion is called a shatter crack and is caused by hydrogen that is not removed during the controlled cooling process. it does happen. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Back then USS rolled rail. This was part of their empire back then. Hate to say it but some of the rail used on their own low speed track wasn't prime stuff.
Thank you so much Ron, glad you enjoyed. All rail is control cooled, that is a Fed law, however it is not 100% effective at eliminating all the hydrogen 100% of the time. Plus the low spot in the track and the heavy loading over the years on an 11 degree curve have not been kind to that piece of rail. That video was made last Sunday and today that rail got changed out.
I may be wrong in this B Laquisha, but I have heard that US Steel had a couple of grades of rail. One was a much harder rail that was for use in high degree curves. We never got any of that rail in here, it was all their standard grade of rail.
I'm amazed that rail doesn't break like that more. All that weight from the engines and cars in that thin rail seems like it would fail right away. But it holds everything up.
You are right David, it always amazes me too that it holds up as well as it does. Amazing how flexible it is in one respect, yet so brittle at the same time. Really appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
Thanks Eric, gonna be a follow up video out, found out some new info and you'll get to see inside the rail, hope I can get it edited and shown this week sometime. It had been broken before I clamped it, I just finished it off. Really appreciate your tuning in today my friend.
First time I’ve seen the new introduction Dave love it…the 6700 jack beam is more powerful then the MKIVs in my opinion ….sometimes if the clamp hits the web it will cause cracking from the stress ….that’s why I find it very important to adjust the stops on the clamps so you can just get a pice of paper in between the rail and hook….keep up the great videos sir
Glad you like it Mike. Intro compliments of Alex Sawyers, a former loco engineer and also a subscriber here. Everyone likes it. That is very interesting about the 6700 being more powerful clamping. We had an old single cab 6700 in here way back and I thought it had more power than my machine does. But it was a pain to track travel in, had to hold the index button down all the time and it had a manual gear shift lever. Very much appreciate your watching and writing in tonight my fellow tamper operator!
Super Dave you are a amazing man at coming up with Making things work with what you have...for cribbing operations...Could your incredible. Team weld on Brackets to side of your tie inserter to temporary bolt on prices of flat medel plates so when running tie inserter along sides of ties it kinda "Shovels out the old track bed dirt and old ballast out between each tie and come along with a neat add on scoop bucket to move the old ballast away....We saw you doing kinda this already ..Enjoying your fun inspiration "SHOWS"
1975 apparently wasn't a great year for rail... There's some rail still in mainline use around my area in NE Wisconsin dating to 1942 ex Chicago and North Western. In great condition. As always another interesting video Dave, thanks for sharing this. Be safe.
New evidence has come to light Brian, we changed that rail on Friday and found that the base had already been broken, I just finished it off with tamper. Will be a video out on it soon. Thanks for visiting with me and checking out the show my friend.
That Rail Defect looks like it could have started from a Squat, and there might even be a Tache Ovale (Transverse Defect) propagating under it. I worked on Ultrasonic Rail Testing in Britain. Here we used to open up the Wet Beds (Cribs) using a Ballast Fork, square nose Shovel and digging Pick, then we would board the Track and use measured Shovel Packing with sluing Jacks to put the Track back to line and gauge, we didn’t have the luxury of Machines to do the Work, just our Muscles. Great Days loved every Minute of it, bet you do to.
Have no idea what a squat means, but no doubt this joint had mud under it at one time and wouldn't hold track surface which got the joint to pumping and started the defect to occur. Thank you for visiting with us and sharing your thoughts my friend.
Very glad you enjoyed Bill. My pleasure and it's an honor to be able to bring these kind of videos to you guys. Very much appreciate your visit with us tonight my friend.
Thanks for this video! Spalling occurs when vibratory stress induces separation zones solid material. As jello can be cracked by shakng. As the inside of an army tank's armor can break off pieces when the outside is struck by high explosive.
Thanks so much Robin for the informative comment. Good thing we aren't running tanks here! LOL Do appreciate your visiting with me today and taking in the presentation my friend.
Thank you for the nice comment and your right John, it never ends something to do here. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thank you Henry, glad you enjoyed and really appreciate your visit with me today my old friend. I actually didn't realize that mill brand was there until after I was done taping and watched it for the first time at home, or I would have shown it.
There was a date stamp on the side of that rail, directly under the flat spot, it looked like 1975 ? As kids we always looked for the date stamps on track in our area to see who could find the oldest year. Some were 1930s and on some old sidings that were no longer used there were 1890s and 1910 dates. That old rail was a lot smaller than the heavy stuff they use now.
I love to see those old rails Earl T. Got a bunch of pics friends on other RR's have sent me over the years, someday I will make a slide show of them. Thanks so much for stopping by and taking in the video my friend.
Rail work is interesting, always something different to do and do it in all kinds of weather. A fun job WhiteDragon. Very much appreciate your taking the time to write in and also for checking out the video on breaking a rail with the tamper my friend.
Love your videos as always. I gotta say… I’m a Western PA native (Irwin), spent most of my time working random construction jobs in Braddock, and after a couple rough and hot summers on a roof watching airplanes fly overhead, I swore I’d go to college and become a pilot. I went through the USAF, got my bachelors and 2 masters degrees, served 20+ years in the USAF and now I’m an airline Captain. Why does that matter? Well, it doesn’t, other than the fact that you and I are probably polar opposites in so many ways. But I never forgot my roots. I spent just enough time working construction to realize that it’s not for me. I admire the hell out of you - you’re not only a superb real world problem solver, but you’re also a great educator. My 11 year old son hates school but loves working with his hands. The 2 of us spend a lot of time watching your videos and I think it’s great to show him a role model like you. Thanks for all that you do - not just for the railroad, but for a lot of kids out there who are smart enough to resist the urge to go to college for a worthless degree and instead not be afraid to follow your footsteps and work with your hands.
Well golly globetruck what a totally awesome comment. I thank
you so much for your very kind words. I went to college for 2
semesters and realized that was not for me. Saved my parents a lot
of money! LOL A young man that wants to work with his hands
in this day and age is a priceless commodity. I sincerely wish
for your son the most prosperous of a future and I'm not Dr. Phil,
but your son will never feel satisfied until he follows what his
heart is telling him in his career choice, whatever choice
that may be. it's a pleasure for me to go to work in the morning,
because I love what I do. Really appreciate your great support
of the channel my friend.
@Richard Irwin 👍😊
Howdy neighbor, over in Trafford, and work in Braddock to boot!
@@ccrx6700 At time stamp 4:10 you can see a hair line crack in the rail head.
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Wow, that rail was rolled in 1975, the year I graduated high school. It held up better than I have but I'm not being replaced either, LOL! Thanks for showing us everything.
I graduated in 72 John. And, I'm not being replaced either.....
So do appreciate your tuning in tonight to the channel and
taking in the presentation my friend. The 70's were some
great years!
There is rail the Milwaukee road laid in south Dakota that is dated 1870 and the railroad runs trains to this day over them. Crazy
Hey Dave. I’ve been kind of curious whether after China started recycling scrap steel if you started seeing any steel brought in from China? I guess it depends whether you have a source guide from product brought from there. With China trying to overtake American producers in other fields I have to wonder if they’ve done it in the railroad industry as well.
On a more personal level my dad worked for the railroad as a block operator until he retired in 1980. I can recall stories where he allowed time for maintenance crews to do repairs between trains. It always amazed me how you guys could accomplish so large a task in the small window between trains! I remember how my dad had a similar demeanor to yours while on the job. Hats off to you all for what could be a stressful job pace while maintaining a sense of humor in the time allotted. Stay safe!🙏👍❤️😉
Makes me wonder if the Big Fitz carried some of the ore that became this rail: she sank that November.
I saw a tie plate a while ago from the 40's
That thing was near perfect no dents no rust nothing considered taking it home but I have 3 other plates already I can't store it no where
I am an engineer that works on analytical instrumentation measuring elemental composition. Some of our inorganic customers provide rail and they’re extremely careful to weed out impurities, but it’s impossible to get them all! Glad we have guys like you to keep a watchful eye on the tracks.
Now that's a mouthful saying all that Super Hero! I had to
read it twice to get it right! Sounds very technical to me. Impurities
in the rail have been a problem since steel rail was first made
back in the late 1800's. Even with today's high tech rail rolling
science, eliminating 100% of the impurities is not gonna
happen 100% of the time. Controlled Cooling was a big
advancement in eliminating hydrogen from the rail, but it
is not 100% effective. Appreciate your paying a visit today
and watching my good man.
@@ccrx6700 indeed, most of the mills I visit don’t even monitor for hydrogen anymore. They focus on Oxygen Nitrogen Carbon and Sulfur. It’s pretty cool to see how important elemental makeup is during the melt. The melt guys won’t move a muscle until the lab ok’s the numbers.
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No rest even on a Sunday! Your railroad is lucky to have good men taking care of maintenance, it doesn't look like an easy fix when the rail is damaged! Thank you for sharing Dave!
Thanks so much Raymond for the nice comment. Do appreciate
your visiting with me today and taking in the presentation
my friend.
re: 7:35 You explained to me about your railroad and not governed by FRA or 49CFR but to me it's so awkward to see the hoghead 'BACKING'(Long Hood Forward)and no headlight or 'Ditch Lights' or a 'Man on the Point'. But as you said, your railroad isn't governed by the Feds so you can 'Railroad Any Old Way You Want' despite 'Best Practices'. Thanks for the video. When I was in the track dept with Penn Central we would manually 'Tamp' most of the time acct no Mechanical Tamper or Ballast regulator. Doing it manually was just the way it was done in 1973 and we didn't think anything about it. We even ,manually carried 39 foot lengths of rail in the yard with rail tongs and as many able bodies we could find. Fond memories.
Keep this in mind Wes, at any one point in time, depending
on locos being down or in for inspections, any of the 3 locos
may be leading coming back with loads, so thus the short nose
is always in the lead with loads. If it was up to me we would
be patrolled by FRA, but it is their choice not to come here.
We are a coal mine with a RR, not a RR in and of itself. The
FRA considers us as "an in plant installation" and thus has
chosen not to come here. We are governed by CFR Title 30
which covers the mining industry. And we are patrolled
by Mine Safety Health Admin, fed mine inspectors and also
Pa. State mine inspectors, but sadly they know very little
about CFR Title 49 which governs the RR industry.
That is totally awesome to me you worked with Penn Central,
wow would I ever love to sit down and listen
about your days there!
I'm glad you share this as people (myself included somewhat) don't always realize whats involved in railroad maintenance and keeping things running safe and smoothly!
Always remember it's the little things that can kill you!.....good catch here Dave!
Thank you very much irongoatrocky for the very kind words.
We do appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in
my friend. Gonna be a follow up vid on this, we changed the rail
out friday and found some new evidence when we saw what
was inside the rail, it had been broken before I clamped it.
Hope I can get that video edited and out this week for you.
I will make sure to write more about all the wonderful, hardworking people who toil day and night, sometimes in rough weather, so our infrastructure is kept safe.
When you show things at different angles and sides, it allows everyone to see the damage so much better. Great video Dave, love learning all about the railroad. The beginning of your videos makes us smile when we see your smiling face and hear your music. Have a great weekend.
Thank you Valerie for your always sweet comments. Always
makes my day when I see you have written in. Appreciate
so much all your great support my friend.
As an old railman never cribout use ballastcleaner ffs
Sometimes it's a blessing when it breaks while doing a repair. Could have been alot worse if a train broke it.. Nice temp. repair Dave.
Your certainly right in that Brian. Thanks for the very
nice comment and for taking the time to visit with me tonight
my friend.
Good thing you caught that before a train broke it and maybe caused a serious problem. Keep smiling Dave and have a nice weekend!
Yes it is Wilbur. Thanks so much for tuning in and checking out
the presentation today my friend.
W O W! You really packed a lot of railroading into this video. I was amazed a flattened head compromised the rail structure that much. Keep up the great work. Really appreciate you taking the time to spread the knowledge. 👍
Glad you enjoyed the show T.J. There had to be an internal defect
in that head someplace also. Will take joint apart and look see
inside the rail when we get a new stick put in there. Very much
appreciate the nice comment my friend.
You are indeed blessed it didn't snap with a fully loaded train going over it! Glad you keep the rails safe as possible. Neat patch with the joint bar! Thank you for bringing us another fine video.
Thanks so much Trena for the nice comment. Do appreciate
your visiting with me today and taking in the presentation
my friend.
Evening Dave! Great job staying on top of things, catching potential problems, and even though you had a little bad luck, you're keeping the rail safe. Thanks for another great video!
Thank you very much Jim for the very kind words. Your very
welcome for the video, it's my pleasure and an honor for me to
be able to share with you guys. Really appreciate all your great
comments and support you give the channel my friend.
Your company is lucky to have you Dave! You can fix things temporarily or (semi) permanently - whatever it takes to get the job done! A lot of companies don't have anyone like that because nobody seem to stick with their jobs these days! It looks like your fix will do the job just fine until you can get that new section welded-in. Good job Dave😊
Thanks so much my good friend for the very kind words. You'll
be glad to know, that rail broke last Sunday and Friday we
got it changed out, a big relief for me as you can imagine, I
think it was time bomb waiting for part of the head to
separate and break out. Really appreciate your nice visit
with me today.
I just discovered “That’s railroading” today and have been bing watching episodes. I’m on the Colorado Railroad Museum’s volunteer track crew. I really appreciate these videos and have already learned a lot.
Thank you Gus and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy.
Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine:
th-cam.com/video/oOug0z34118/w-d-xo.html
Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out.
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Very interesting that lifting the rail to get one job done can also help find the weak rails when lifting them if they break.
Nothing like a new replaced rail to keep at ease. Great vid as always! :)
Glad you enjoyed Bassotronics. We do appreciate your popping
in on us today and checking out the presentation my friend.
We were relining track to approach a bridge with a better alinement. On the next day, we found a broken rail on the track we had moved.
@@royreynolds108
Found in time to avoid issues.
Dave: Love the new intro, Many times we had to follow a tamper, sometimes there would be a section crew behind the tamper and then we would follow both of them, repairing bonds etc.... Thats Railroading RIGHT
Very glad you like it Wm. We do appreciate your taking the time
to watch today and write in my friend.
Repairing bonds is generally the signalman's job because that is what the bonds are for unless the line has catenary for electric propulsion then the bonds are very big.
Hey Dave. Nice work on that temporary repair. Interesting how the head just separated and deformed like that. That was probably an imperfection from the foundry or forge or wherever that rail was made that probably allowed a little water in there once it was exposed. And then rust jacking took care of the rest. I look forward to seeing the rail replacement when you guys get time and materials/equipment ready. And always a good video when one of the big SD's comes in for a close up.
READ THIS: www.multimodalways.org/docs/railroads/RREquip/Sperry/Sperry%20Rail%20Defect%20Manual%204-1968.pdf
Thanks so much Shane for the very nice comment. That broke
last Sunday and today we got the rail changed, another
big relief. Management came thru on this one and got me
a grapple truck in here within 5 days, a major accomplishment
since Frontier RR Services is up to their neck in work right now
on other jobs. Do appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
Rails are hot rolled from cast billets - entrapped mold release (for continious billets) or entrapped slag/reoxidation, non-metallic inclusions, poor billet pre-conditioning or damage in reheating or even in rolling (lap) defects are a few of the many casues of poor rail quality - each one should be investgated. In this case look like sub-surface rolling contact fatigue cracking (Spalling).
Thanks for your great and informative videos on Railroadin'! Dang phones and video equipment. Lol. 👍🚞
When you said to hold on as you were climbing up the steps I literally was looking for the handrails and chuckling along with you. Very interesting segment and thanks for taking us along!
Someday Peter I'm gonna figure out how to mount a camera
so you can watch me climb on a rail car and loco. Give
some safety tips on how to do it. Thanks so much for visiting
with me and checking out the show my friend.
Dave, another great video. Like you said, it is a good thing the the train didn't take that rail out. Looks like the temporary will do fine until you can get the rail replaced.
Thank you Tom! New evidence has come to light. We changed
this rail on Friday. Will have a follow up video, hope I can
get it edited to come out this week. Base had been broken
for some time, we are so fortunate that a train hadn't
broken it completely before. Appreciate so much for your
great support of the channel my friend.
Good job Dave, don't want the train breaking it with a bunch of cars to work the devil out of it, now it's got a little help keeping it together until things can be worked out to fix it the right way. I could tell you were relieved about when it did break. Every spare moment doesn't seem to be enough to keep that line from mud jacking, that was a serious glop of mud at some point. ATB, you won one this time!
Thanks so much Lee for the very nice comment. That broke
last Sunday and today we got the rail changed, another
big relief. Management came thru on this one and got me
a grapple truck in here within 5 days, a major accomplishment
since Frontier RR Services is up to their neck in work right now
on other jobs. Do appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
I was told about your channel and I'll watch every video I can for my book research :D A lot of people these days can't realize that all of that infrastructure needs maintaining by hard working guys like you!
Thank you for the very kind words Aragmar, glad to hear you
are finding something of value here. Appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 It took me many years, but I finally published some of my books. I am getting better with each story I write :D Recently, with the help of my good fans, I made and uploded on youtube, my first video.
@@aragmarverilian8238 👍😊
I am learning more about what it takes to properly maintain a railroad than I ever imagined. You present a side that few cover and your explanations are totally clear. This is very enlightening. Thanks, Dave!
Thank you very much Bill for the nice comment and for taking the time to check out the video today. So glad to hear you are
having a good time with us. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Well, you tried to show the ballast dump but your camera had other ideas. There will be other times. That defect in the rail was going to break sometime and I don't think it's your fault. I am glad you make these videos to teach us city folk the ins and outs of railroading.
Thank you very much Nancy for the very kind words.
We do appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in
my friend. Am going to have a follow up vid on the break, some
new info has come to surface, so watch for it to come out this
week I hope.
The broken rail at 9:56 is absolutely astonishing. Thanks for the video! I legitimately love the sounds of all the machines idling when you were talking.
Thank you so much for the very nice comment Archetypal_NPC.
We do appreciate your visiting with us today and taking in
the presentation my friend.
Good job Dave, don't want the train breaking it.
First time anyone ever told me I did a good job breaking a rail..... :-)
But your right, so much better me than a train Derrick. hey
maybe the more rails I break the more pay I will get???? LOL
Thanks so much for watching today my friend.
Great video Dave. I really enjoyed watching it with my morning coffee. I love how you used a straight edge to give us a better idea of the deformation. Have a great day my friend.
That's great to hear Lewis, start your day off with coffee and me.... LOL. Very much appreciate your visit with us this morning my friend.
Great job Dave!!!-- you are a natural, who makes hard work seem so easy!!!-- thanks!!!-- keep up the great work!!!
We want to say Thank You for dropping in on us and watching
the presentation today Robert. We really appreciate
the very nice comment my friend.
What I don't understand is why the railroad companies are not employing more maintenance personnel.
You ask a big question and a legitimate one, wish I had
the answers, rail maintenance is everything to keeping trains
running. Really appreciate your stopping by to visit with us and watch the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Love your laugh Dave - it's clear you have a wonderful, joyful, perspective on life. I see and hear you and I think you are "Tom Bombadil of the Rails:" _Tom Bombadil ties & spikes a-bringing._ _Comes hopping home again. Can you hear him singing?_ _He's got just the song for Old Man Ribbon-Rail!_ _Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! and merry-o: ring-a-ding-dillo!_ (With apologies & gratitude to JRR Tolkien.)
Thank you very much Brettany Renee for the nice comment. Glad you
enjoyed. Beautiful name you have. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Great video Dave, good camera angles to see the details. That broken part of the rail had a lot of rust in it as well, could have failed at any time. Great it happened during tampering. The term Spalling is also used in the electrical industry on concrete power poles, when the rebar has rusted and is cracking the concrete of the actual power pole.
Thank you so much Rodalco for the very nice comment.
We do appreciate your taking the time to check out the video. May you have a really good day my friend.
Thanks! I really learn an awful lot about railroad maintenance and operations watching your excellent videos.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you are finding the
videos interesting Jim. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
you are such a nice and down to earth person, I really love your videos and the way you present them. My grandfather used to work on rail years ago here in Australia.
Thank you Darryl, for the very nice comment. So glad to hear
you are enjoying all the home movies. We certainly do appreciate
your taking the time to watch them my friend. I would have
loved talking with your grandfather.
Nice work Dave. Always attending to the details that matter and potentially saving the company from a major outlay had they not been detected. Well done to repair crew on the temporary fix. Let's you sleep well at night! 🙂
Thank you Richard for the very nice comment, we do appreciate
your joining in with us and watching the presentation my friend.
We had the tampers break a lot of yard rail on us especially when I first started when the rail was very old and brittle before they did major upgrades to our RR yards. They would also break joint bars if they had a hairline crack that was already apparent. Nice video once again Dave and have a great rest of your evening.(Steve)
Jackson sales reps used to use the pitch: More insertions,
deeper penetration, and we don't charge extra for finding
weak spots in the rail. I've broken joint bars also, that's railroadin. LOL
Thanks for watching the show my good friend. PS: we changed that
rail Friday, new evidence came to light, the base had already
been broken before I clamped it. Video out on that coming up.
@@ccrx6700 Sounds good Dave looking forward to more videos, Your very welcome also.
Another one of your awesome videos for us Dave. That's a good thing you found that bad spot on the rail. I can tell you know a lot about all of these fixes that can be done on the track.
Thank you so much William for the very nice comment. We
really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and
watch my friend.
Dave nice temporary repair on the rail. Nice catch on the spalding I guess there is no way of telling how long it will last just as we saw. Great job as always hope you have a great day. ❤🇨🇦
Thank you Ray. Rail broke last Sunday and this Friday we
got it changed out, a big relief to me, I will sleep better now.
Really appreciate all your nice comments and great support
you have given us my friend.
Thanks Dave Bad luck on the rail, but good luck that you found it, I bet that it wouldn't be good for a train to run over it and it being broken. Thanks again Dave.
Your welcome John. Great to have you on the show with us,
we do appreciate your stopping by my friend.
Always keeping you busy. Thanks for the video.
Job security Beverly. That broke last Sunday and this Friday
we got the rail changed, so I can sleep better now. Thanks
so much my friend for visiting with me today and watching.
Nice new open, Dave! And thanks for taking us along on your (That's) Railroading adventures!
Glad you like the intro daveogarf, it is the creation of Alex Sawyers
who is a subscriber and former loco engineer. Lots of good
feed back on it. Really appreciate your writing in and for watching
my friend.
Sounds to me that you have a greater attention to detail about faulty rails than some railroads that have been in the news recently.
Keep up the videos, you obviously know your topic, and the straight and honest explanations are rare and appreciated. 👍
Thank you very much Meriphistimo for the kind words. We certainly do appreciate your visiting with us and checking out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Well Dave, they can't blame you for this one, rail from 1975 that had a flaw, you can see it was that way deep inside for a while. Very glad it didn't fail with a loaded train.. good job getting it taken care of. Are you the one that has to call in a crew or does some one in an office do that.. Great video, be safe out there.
Thanks Pappy for the very nice comment. Several have said, it
broke cause the rail was made in China. I said it was Illinois,
1975 US Steel and if it had been made in China it never would
have last half this long....LOL Really appreciate your visit
with me today my good friend.
@@ccrx6700 for sure Dave, would have rusted away on the slow boat getting here... 🤣🤣🤣
Your videos are so calming and relaxing, makes me wish I had started my career with the railroad.
Thank you for the very nice comment. Glad you are enjoying
watching the home movies and that they calm you. Railroading
is a lot of fun and I do love being a part of that, so very blessed
that I can share them with you my friend.
Great work Dave!! I love the real life railroading you show us all!! The videos are awesome!
Thank you very much Mike, really appreciate your very nice comment
and for watching the video tonight my friend.
Anytime I love railroading always been fascinated by trains. Looks like fun ! I’ll trade you jobs for the day! I’ll work on trains you can grow cranberries!! Fair deal. Lol
@@mikewoodbury7248 👍😊
As ALWAYS...another GREAT video Dave!
Thank you Joe, glad you enjoyed. We do appreciate your
stopping by and taking in the show today my friend.
I’ve found your channel, and sir it’s every thing I’ve been curious about, I deliver specialty gas to the rail industry and was always fascinated on what causes failure and fixes.
Thank you Cheek ripper D for the very nice comment, glad to
hear you are enjoying the home movies. Really appreciate your checking out the channel. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Thank you for showing us this excellent work, it was a very impressive clean up of the ballast. It is impossible to see what is happening inside the metal of the track until these things take place, though the railroad company in the area that I live has some very expensive, ultrasonic test trains which can detect things happening. Sometimes wheelslip can cause similar problems. These videos are really helpful for the people in educating them as to what goes into keeping the railroad safe and running to its greatest potential.
New evidence has come to light John, we changed that rail on
Friday and found that the base had already been broken, I just
finished it off with tamper. Will be a video out on it soon. Thanks
for visiting with me and checking out the show my friend. We do
get the ultrasconic rail testers in here also when they are
available. Since we are so small they want the big jobs, not
the little ones and they too are short on people.
Broken Rail, Broken Equipment, Mud-Coal Fines in your Ballast. I have to say David you are constantly in McGyver mode, making the best of what you have to work with and often not much time to do it. Our fascination with your work is obvious and unfotunately some of the best videos are just awful messes for you so this footage comes at a price and we realize that and appreciate it.
Thanks so much kurtzbradley for the very nice comment. Really
do appreciate all the great support and kind words you have
given the channel for such a long time now my friend.
Hi Dave, @4:16 I noticed a discoloration in the railhead surface about 1 inch to the left of the spalled area. It almost loos like a crack straight across the head section. There also looks to be a possible crack on the field side of the rail head from where the surface discoloration meets traveling diagonally to the right. Looks like the head was already cracked and the tamper just finished the job. Cheers.
Very good observation Samuel, I think you are right, was already
cracked. Thank you so much for visiting with us and watching. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
I knew rails can warp in extreme heat as I've witnessed multiple times during extreme heat waves here in Melbourne Australia, but for them to crack like that. Bloody heck!
Always a pleasure watching your videos. Cheers!
Thank you so much Ondrej for taking the time to tune in to
the channel and check out the video my friend. Hope you
have a really good day. Great to hear you are enjoying the home
movies.
great video. your love for your job really makes your channel. my brother and i sit in the garage on sunday mornings watching your adventues. thank you for sharing
Thank you so much Michael for the very nice comment. Glad
you and your brother are enjoying. We really appreciate all
you great support my friends.
Thx I worked as Tech for Wash metro Area Transit Authority. For 33 years. I really appreciate your videeos
Thank you for the nice comment Edward, glad to hear you are
enjoying the videos. A lot of railroaders watch them, I'm flattered
at that. Very much appreciate your taking the time to check out the Broken Rail video my friend.
I figured you might break that crushed head rail with the tamper. I would make that spot priority number one with the shut down. Looked like you needed a couple of ties, one at a joint. Those battered heads are nothing to play around with, change them out as soon as you find it. That other joint has you wanted to remove has a battered end, is not bad, something to keep an eye on. Great work and video. Thanks for sharing with us Dave.
Rail got changed up there today Zach, I wasn't on that job
so don't know exactly what they did yet. For sure changing
that rail was a priority and glad it's now done. It was just
another accident waiting to happen if we hadn't. Very much
appreciate your visit with me today my good friend.
Great video and work Dave! Nice job my friend!
Thank you very much Dave for the very kind words.
We do appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in
my friend.
Going back to my Q.A. days, my problem solving flow chart on a defect like that would indicate a "It was like that when I got here." position.
I like that Rod! And that's my story from now on and I'm sticking
with it! :-) Really appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
That's interesting Dave. Quite something that defect in the rail. On the big company railroads that have those fancy inspection cars, would they pick up defects like that?
Spalding? We saw that in concrete where the rebar got exposed to moisture via a crack and started to corrode. The concrete institute says the rebar can expand through corrosion to 7 times its size thus causing the concrete to fracture spald. Worst I saw was on a concrete breakwater in Richards Bay. Can also happen when the concrete coverage of the rebar to little. Nice one again Dave.
Glad you like the presentation Bill. We do get the rail testers in
here, usually twice a year. We changed that rail out Friday and
found some new evidence, the rail base had been broken
for some time, I just finished it off. Certainly the testers
would have found a broken base. it's not easy to get testers in
here because we are such a small RR. They want big jobs
and as with everything else are hurting for employees, so
they come only when they happen to be passing through.
Amazing! I didn't know they took such meticulous care of the tracks! And they had such specialized equipment. (NYC)
Glad you had a good time with us today Oz. Very much appreciate
your paying us a visit and watching my good man.
I can't imagen how much work it takes to keep a huge RR company rolling. You seem to be busy with just your 28 miles of track.
Always something to do here James, and with only 2 track
guys and having to work around trains, it's really hard to
try and keep up. But one thing all that work does, is it makes
for a lot of good videos.... LOL Really appreciate your tuning in
to the show today and watching my friend.
Hi Dave love to see track being wielded together. Thanks for all you show . I have learned a lot from your videos.God Bless have a good day.
Thank you so much Charlie. Really appreciate your checking out the video and writing in with the very nice comment my friend.
Railroadin is hard on the equipment. Nice job as usual, Dave !
Thanks Kurt for the compliment, glad you enjoyed. Very
pleased to have you visit with us today and watch my friend.
Thank God for people this man 🙌 obviously throughly enjoys his job and helps keep our country movin
Thank you cFluff for the very kind words. We really appreciate
your taking the time to watch and write in my good man.
Love watching this. Amazing understanding more about the army of people keeping the trains going.
Thank you Tom for the very nice comment. We're really glad
you came to visit us and take in the presentation my good man.
Great vids, Dave. I have always loved trains. But it is a lot more fun to know what is actually going on. Thank you so much. Peace
Thank you Randy for the very nice comment. We really appreciate
your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Well Dave your jobs to do are piling up .
There always seems to be something cropping up
Good job you found that break in the rail when you did .
Or it may have caused a derailment.
Nice job 👍👍👍👍👍
Jobs piling up in the past 18 years I've been full time track man
haven't stopped or slowed down either John.... sigh..... Always
something needs done here. Heavy coal loads and jointed track
is a curse. Thank you for visiting with us to check out the video my friend.
Howdy Dave! Kinda some bad luck but worked out to your advantage being able to replace a couple of joiners. I hope she stays together till ya can get a new piece welded in. Thanks for the video, stay safe!!
Thanks so much Rick for the very nice comment. That broke
last Sunday and today we got the rail changed, another
big relief. Management came thru on this one and got me
a grapple truck in here within 5 days, a major accomplishment
since Frontier RR Services is up to their neck in work right now
on other jobs. Do appreciate your visiting with me today my friend.
Great video Dave, I seen the same thing when I worked on the Queensland Government Railways in Australia
Thank you and glad you enjoyed IS1943. Really appreciate your visiting with us and watching the video. May you have a very
good day my friend.
2:00 There's a railway crossing near where I lived that looked like that for several years before they finally corrected the situation. By the time they got around to do it, the rail was bouncing up and down at least 2 inches when a train went through. It was pumping mud all over the place. The fix happened not long after the Lac Mégantic disaster. I actually live a little over an hour away from there. Some of our fire crews went there. As tragic as it sounds, I think that the only reason that it finally got fixed is because of that tragedy. Right after that crossing, there is a pair of curves before the train reaches the city center. They upgraded them to continuous welded rails and added a cant angle. As nice as it looks right now, my experience tells me that it likely won't get touched again for at least another decade. With our winters, things can move a lot and they can move fast. Over the last few years, the river has eaten up a very large portion of the land that used to separate it from the railway. As unprotected as that river bank is, I would not be surprised to hear that the curve has fallen into the river in a few years. They fixed the railway and did not bother to make sure that it was properly protected against the assaults of the river. It's just my impression, but I think that basically sums up how railway maintenance in Canada. It is patchwork that only partially addresses problems until the next problem rears up its ugly head.
Thank you very much Jonathan for taking the time to watch the video
and share with us your thoughts. All railroads have problems, some worse than others. I'm not making excuses for any other RR, but
here you do what we can with the amount of track time, money
and equipment available, plus there are only 2 of us who maintain
the track.
great job showing how to repair the failed Railroad track's. it is always so interesting
seeing the flaws that come up on the rails.probably over time they get ware and tare
from the cars rolling across the rails under loads. moving and flexing as it rolls over the rails.
hope that you have a great labor day celebration. take care and stay healthy barry
Thanks so much Barry for the nice comment. Do appreciate
your visiting with me today and taking in the presentation
my friend.
Dave, here in the UK we use Hadfield Manganese steel. It has up to 13% Manganese in it. This gives it the property of ‘work hardening’ the surface due to the action of the wheels. Where you have a defect I expect this will get excessive pounding from the wheels and a extra hard skin forms on the rail. This eventually gives up and you get the spalling.
Thank you for the excellent info Peter, I will have to do some research on that. That stuff gets hard, wondering if you guys
have rail grinding program and how the stones hold up
grinding that stuff???. We appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Dave I said it once months ago I'll say it again I have never met anybody so happy with their life I don't know how you do it I don't know how you're happy all the time boy am I jealous
Thank you very much GMCGUY for the kind words. I do have
my down days tho, like everyone else, but can't show them
on a video on a family friendly channel.... LOL The energy
you give off is the energy you get back. That is probably the
greatest thing thing I have learned in this life. I once was
a loser and a wimp, I didn't like myself and I was miserable
most of the time. But over the course of time, I made better
choices and learned how to be successful and like myself.
The best thing you can ever do is to feel good about yourself.
I'm not trying to be a preacher or tell you how to live your
life, but just sharing what has worked for me, only since you
asked. Everyone in life has their own unique situations and
challenges and contrasts. Each person has to make their
own choices based on their experiences, circumstances and what they decide is best for themselves.
I love your videos. Please keep up the good work.
Thank you very much GeneralChase for the very kind words.
We do appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in
my friend.
It is obvious that you enjoy your work and I assume you are very easy to work with. A valuable employee!
Thank you Ron for the kind words, but you never been around
me in the early mornings.... LOL Very much appreciate your
popping in today and taking in the show my friend.
I like those rail repair videos Dave again you gave us great info.👍👍
Glad you enjoyed Russell. Thanks so much for tuning in and
checking out the show today my friend. That happened last
Sunday and today that rail got changed out. A big relief for me.
@@ccrx6700 I hope we get to see a video
Another informative video Dave it makes me wonder if that rail had a void in it when it was made, and over the years the weight of the train wheels weakened and collapsed it.
Thank you Agostino for the kind words. I do believe you are right,
rail had a small inclusion in it from rolling, often that inclusion
is called a shatter crack and is caused by hydrogen that is not
removed during the controlled cooling process. it does happen.
Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in
my friend.
Great video Dave, I never think about a rail being defective from the manufacturer!!! Keep those videos coming Dave, be careful out there!!!
Back then USS rolled rail. This was part of their empire back then. Hate to say it but some of the rail used on their own low speed track wasn't prime stuff.
Thank you so much Ron, glad you enjoyed. All rail is control cooled,
that is a Fed law, however it is not 100% effective at eliminating
all the hydrogen 100% of the time. Plus the low spot in the
track and the heavy loading over the years on an 11 degree
curve have not been kind to that piece of rail. That video was
made last Sunday and today that rail got changed out.
I may be wrong in this B Laquisha, but I have heard that US Steel
had a couple of grades of rail. One was a much harder rail that
was for use in high degree curves. We never got any of that rail
in here, it was all their standard grade of rail.
Great video Dave, looks like you have a lot of work in front of you. Good luck .Keep up posted 👍👍🚂
Thanks so much Christopher, so glad you came to visit with
us today. Rail broke last Sunday and this Friday we changed it
out, I can sleep better now.
I'm amazed that rail doesn't break like that more. All that weight from the engines and cars in that thin rail seems like it would fail right away. But it holds everything up.
You are right David, it always amazes me too that it holds up
as well as it does. Amazing how flexible it is in one respect,
yet so brittle at the same time. Really appreciate your
visiting with me today my friend.
Another very interesting vid Dave ... Appreciate all of em ... Thx ...
Thank you Eddy, glad you enjoyed. We do appreciate your
stopping by and taking in the show today my friend.
Love the maintenance and care, thanks Dave
Thank you Tom, glad you enjoyed. We do appreciate your
stopping by and taking in the show today my friend.
Another fine video. Thanks Dave...
Your very welcome Wayne. So glad you had a good time with
us tonight. We really appreciate your paying us a visit and
take in the show my friend.
There is always important work to do on the railway. Thanks for showing us how.
Thanks so much Paul for the nice comment. Do appreciate
your visiting with me today and taking in the presentation
my friend.
Great video. Lots of work to do. Good eye on each defect. Cant wait to watch as those rail defects are repaired. Thanks. :)
Thank you mustraline, glad you enjoyed. We do appreciate your
stopping by and taking in the show today my friend.
Very interesting Dave, neat to see how that rail split!
Thanks Eric, gonna be a follow up video out, found out some
new info and you'll get to see inside the rail, hope I can get it
edited and shown this week sometime. It had been broken
before I clamped it, I just finished it off. Really appreciate your
tuning in today my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Nice, I look forward to seeing your follow up video!
Hopefully you will video the welding repair!!😆😁
Enjoyed watching!!
Very glad you enjoyed Roy. We do appreciate your presence
with us today my good man.
First time I’ve seen the new introduction Dave love it…the 6700 jack beam is more powerful then the MKIVs in my opinion ….sometimes if the clamp hits the web it will cause cracking from the stress ….that’s why I find it very important to adjust the stops on the clamps so you can just get a pice of paper in between the rail and hook….keep up the great videos sir
Glad you like it Mike. Intro compliments of Alex Sawyers, a former
loco engineer and also a subscriber here. Everyone likes it. That
is very interesting about the 6700 being more powerful clamping.
We had an old single cab 6700 in here way back and I thought
it had more power than my machine does. But it was a pain
to track travel in, had to hold the index button down all the
time and it had a manual gear shift lever. Very much appreciate
your watching and writing in tonight my fellow tamper operator!
Super Dave you are a amazing man at coming up with Making things work with what you have...for cribbing operations...Could your incredible. Team weld on Brackets to side of your tie inserter to temporary bolt on prices of flat medel plates so when running tie inserter along sides of ties it kinda "Shovels out the old track bed dirt and old ballast out between each tie and come along with a neat add on scoop bucket to move the old ballast away....We saw you doing kinda this already ..Enjoying your fun inspiration "SHOWS"
Thank you so much Bradford for your really nice comment.
We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to tune in
and watch my friend.
1975 apparently wasn't a great year for rail... There's some rail still in mainline use around my area in NE Wisconsin dating to 1942 ex Chicago and North Western. In great condition. As always another interesting video Dave, thanks for sharing this. Be safe.
That's more survivorship bias if anything
New evidence has come to light Brian, we changed that rail on
Friday and found that the base had already been broken, I just
finished it off with tamper. Will be a video out on it soon. Thanks
for visiting with me and checking out the show my friend.
That Rail Defect looks like it could have started from a Squat, and there might even be a Tache Ovale (Transverse Defect) propagating under it. I worked on Ultrasonic Rail Testing in Britain. Here we used to open up the Wet Beds (Cribs) using a Ballast Fork, square nose Shovel and digging Pick, then we would board the Track and use measured Shovel Packing with sluing Jacks to put the Track back to line and gauge, we didn’t have the luxury of Machines to do the Work, just our Muscles. Great Days loved every Minute of it, bet you do to.
Have no idea what a squat means, but no doubt this joint had mud
under it at one time and wouldn't hold track surface which
got the joint to pumping and started the defect to occur. Thank
you for visiting with us and sharing your thoughts my friend.
Always love ur vids Dave!
Thank you so much my friend for the very nice words.
Hope you are doing well and great to hear from you again.
Be safe out there, love the show
Very glad you are enjoying MightyWookie. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Wonderfuol seeing the "nitty-gritty" details of railroading!
Very glad you enjoyed Bill. My pleasure and it's an honor
to be able to bring these kind of videos to you guys. Very
much appreciate your visit with us tonight my friend.
Thanks for this video!
Spalling occurs when vibratory stress induces separation zones solid material. As jello can be cracked by shakng. As the inside of an army tank's armor can break off pieces when the outside is struck by high explosive.
Thanks so much Robin for the informative comment. Good thing
we aren't running tanks here! LOL Do appreciate
your visiting with me today and taking in the presentation
my friend.
Hey Dave great job never ending on railroad
Thank you for the nice comment and your right John, it never
ends something to do here. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.
Good video Dave. Maybe start showing the rail mill marks? Cheers !
Thank you Henry, glad you enjoyed and really appreciate
your visit with me today my old friend. I actually didn't
realize that mill brand was there until after I was done
taping and watched it for the first time at home, or I would
have shown it.
18 years of doing rail road work seen it all nice joint bar repair
Was very nice of you to take the time and visit with us today
to watch the presentation Robert.
Great video and accompanying explanations!
Was very nice of you to take the time and visit with us today
to watch the presentation Fredrick.
Nice videos , very interesting and informative. Keep them coming
Thank you Paul for the very kind words. Really glad you enjoyed
and we certainly appreciate your watching my friend.
There was a date stamp on the side of that rail, directly under the flat spot, it looked like 1975 ? As kids we always looked for the date stamps on track in our area to see who could find the oldest year. Some were 1930s and on some old sidings that were no longer used there were 1890s and 1910 dates. That old rail was a lot smaller than the heavy stuff they use now.
I love to see those old rails Earl T. Got a bunch of pics friends
on other RR's have sent me over the years, someday I will
make a slide show of them. Thanks so much for stopping
by and taking in the video my friend.
Great video Dave!
Thank you Rick, glad you enjoyed. We do appreciate your
stopping by and taking in the show today my friend.
Good job and Another great video !
Thank you gogetthegoose1 Appreciate so much for tuning in and checking out the presentation today my friend.
Very interesting work you do there.
Rail work is interesting, always something different to do and do
it in all kinds of weather. A fun job WhiteDragon. Very much appreciate your taking the time to write in and also for checking out the video on breaking a rail with the tamper my friend.