I have both echolalia and palilalia. I will sing the hot pocket song (Thanks to Jim Gaffigan) randomly forever now, as well as the phrase "Short people" in the same tonal progression when I'm reaching for something... That's my echolalia. I will also, when frustrated or overwhelmed repeat phrases in quick succession: "I know, I know, I know" "okay, okay, okay, okay, okay" that's the palilalia.
If my brain was a computer, I’d have an entire folder filled to the brim with quotes. From movies, to tv shows, and even video games (and some internet stuff too) so maybe this is en example of this. Plus as a kid I would quote stuff all the time, heck I still do this
Brims! That's a capital idea! My folders just have undifferentiated upper edges, and if I'm not careful in saving files to them, they fall out and turn up pseudorandomly scattered through the folder containing the folders.
And many of those people probably have other autistic traits. If not, while yes, references from movies are common ways to relate, echolalia can be more than that. It can be phrases you hear from other people, or songs. Some of us aspies can be walking talking earworms. I get that you're trying to relate, however the way you phrased your comment is very minimising of an autistic experience that could have had traumatising moments, such as copying a parent's lecture point and getting verbally or even physically lashed for it. Or repeating someone else's crude comment or profanity and having the metaphorical or even literal soap in the mouth (metaphorical would be something like writing lines or extra chores). Saying "many/all people do that" minimises the extremes of the autistic experience as being something so common, the intense feelings or lack of emotion which might be associated with those certain behaviours appear to be dismissed. Everyone copies phrases and mannerisms, but not everyone does it to try and navigate the world when they were born without the socialisation handbook in quite the same way as those with it.
@@audreydoyle5268thank you for taking the time to explain this to the person who made that comment. I was so frustrated and annoyed by it and you addressed it so kindly and patiently. ✌️💕🌻
@@audreydoyle5268yeah but neurotypical don't really care about what's difference between when they do it and when other people do it that point is that everyone does it not just autistics and that's what they believe autistic people are saying online that these things are specific to them they're not yes they have different reasons for doing stuff don't we all I recognize memorizing autism is not good because people don't get the help they need is that happens but they are right partially we are all different in different ways you may have autism you may have ADHD you may even be normal we are all weird and different from each other people who have anxiety may have fidget toys people who have phonia whatever you call it may you wear ear plugs doesn't mean they are austistic
Yellow Submarine: "If you must shout, shout quietly!" (I think it's Paul) Quite useful once you've had kids, which may be why it's become a favorite after decades of saying it...
Since the early 2000s, mine has been "It's a travel day for Tommy, so it's a travel day for us" from Hedwig and the Angry Inch. It was such a vague reference that only my sister would know what I was talking about haha
When I'm particularly sleep-deprived -- which thanks to nocent bystanders happens roughly 109% of the time, such that I now have a cumulative sleep debt of approximately 23 years -- sometimes when I'm in the shower I perform a memory diagnostic. Over my 59 years, I've amassed a store of not-quite-forgotten lore, which on such occasions I recite aloud. On the shelves of this lore store, some favorites are: --The Qur'an: Surahs "Al-Fatiha," "Al-Falaq," "An-Nas," "Al-Kafirun," "Al-Ikhlas" and "Ar-Rahman." --Duas (informal supplications) of my own coinage: the eight that I recite every day, plus a rotating cast of about another score. --Shakespeare: soliloquys and other passages from "Hamlet," "Macbeth," "Romeo and Juliet," "As You Like It," "A Midsummer Night's Dream" and "Julius Caesar." Blake: "Tyger!" Poe: Passages from "The Raven," "Annabel Lee," "The Tell-Tale Heart" and "The Masque of the Red Death." Ogden Nash: "A Carol For Children" (complete). Milton: "Stabat Mater Dolorosa." Sergei Rachmaninov: "The Mournful Iron Bells." Don't bother to tell me. I know I'm quite insane. 🙃 But I do have an excuse: I grew up with a mother who taught English, a father who wrote nonfiction, a librarian grandmother and a Shakespeare scholar grandfather. And then I edited newspapers, and my daughter uttered her first word at one month. So at least I have company. 😸
@@ismailabdelirada9073 Honestly, you just sound like a fantastic conversationalist to me! 😂 As a 20-something English teacher with many bookish friends, you just sound like someone I'd probably get along with!
omg, i DO do echolalia with books and audio books! the phrase will wander through my mind and i'll end up saying it! i used to do this a lot as a kid, answering the phone with anything BUT 'hello'.
Me too! Especially after reading books of my interest (mostly history/science because..), I just HAD to store that information in my Broca's area, Wernicke's area or hippocampus or whatever just as long as I remember it.
@@ShunKaidou-d6x but it was rarely if ever with things i *heard*. i've always retained better if i can read things. i'll generally remember the side of the book and area of the page and can find it later. pdfs drive me crazy because i can't just find what i remember that way!
I know I’m really late but nobody replied to you so I might as well. I have palilalia and for me it’s mainly whispering (or mouthing with no whisper) words or phrases I just said under my breath immediately after I say it. 90% of the time I don’t even realize that I’m doing it. Like somebody else said I will also repeat quick phrases like “thank you, thank you, thank you” or other things like that.
I get this with anime, but I don't speak japanese. So at random points of certain days I might say "Yarabenakerebanaranai" which I'm not sure where I heard it or what it means, but it feels very right sometimes. On things I do actually know the meaning of "For you, Dave, I have five" from American Beauty is a big one for me
that is interesting. My working memory and short-term memory suck. I was never able to memorize movie lines or songs. I have to listen to a song 50+ times to remember the words and the word secret once I have to write it even but one thing I have found I do often is Paula Leah as you described it I repeat immediately what I hear over and over again in my head and out loud and I got myself in trouble one time at my mom‘s favorite Mexican restaurant when the owner asked my mom if she wanted chicken on her salad. I repeated as I was standing right next to her cheek-an , cheek-an , cheek-an . “Mario” never liked me after that. Even after I apologized immensely. He thought I was making fun of his language, but I love hearing other people‘s language. I love repeating what they say trying to say it phonetically I wish I could learn a language, but my working memories such thatit would take me a lifetime although I’m not gonna give up.
I swear the definitions of these things keep changing lol. Or is it different in developmental psychology? I learned that echolalia (in infants at least) was simply repeating a sound over and over to train their mouths to form the sounds that will eventually become language. (Example: repeating “lalalalalala,” hence the word echo+lala=echolalia) Keep educating me, Orion! I’m learning tons about myself and my fellow autistics, and as I read in another comment here, why I often got smacked without understanding the reason.
I say often Mummy is very angry (Jurassic Parc 1), or when you got to go, you got to go, same movie. But as I used to watched 100 of times the same movie, it's easy... And my memory is really good, I didn't know it was something else that memory
Once my nan asked me why I was scratching my head (had real bad nits as a kid), then answered her own question by saying, "probably just the heat,"... Every time I scratched my head around her, I'd say it, until one time I scratched at night... In the dead middle of winter. The words didn't click in my head, but I thought it would work as a "get out of jail free/escape the nit comb". It clicked that night though. Usually when I repeat movie phrases, it makes light of a dark situation or vice versa, more so the latter. I like gallows humour, especially when there's a matching movie/show phrase that pops into my head. Makes people laugh about 80% of the time. I also repeat ¿por que no los dos? or "There is a third option...." Almost every time I'm choosing between two or three things.
My favourite line that stuck in my head was from Eurotrip "This isn't where I parked my car..."😂 but it applies to so much. Acquaintance: Hey T, did I see you over at (insert shady ass part of town/sketchy ass neighborhood). Me: Dude, that's not where I park my car. I also seem to repeat tones and alerts from phones. So, let's say someone, anyone's phone, alerts... my dumbass be on the other side of the room repeating the sound and getting the person looking for the phone absolutely confused
I always quote ones that sound intellectual and most of the time I hyper fixate on those phrases/sentences on a daily basis and become utterly upset (or feel moronic) if I forget.
At first when I read the title I thought it said paraphilia instead of palilalia and I thought "YES! He's finally going to open up the discussion on autism and paraphilias!" Then I realized what it actually said. So disappointing, I'm tired of feeling like a freak with no one talking about the issues I'm dealing with
I'm extremely social, im very good at reading people to the point where i want to possibly study psychology. But this exact thing happens to me with movie quotes ill just randomly pull one out regardless of the setting. And also sometimes if i hear a song it can stay in my head playing over and over for long periods of time. Am i on the spectrum? Lol
Whenever I hear an interesting sound or accent I want to immediately copy it. But I don't want to offend people so I don't. But a movie at home is fair game.
I don't think this is an Autism specific thing? I do this all the time when i'm alone or around people that I have a high degree trust with (i.e. won't be weirded out). I assume most people do. I've been considered normal/have fit in well with society for almost my entire life. Perhaps with Autism its just MORE pronounced?
“East? I thought you said Weast!” - Patrick
Huh, I guess I do this myself.
I have both echolalia and palilalia. I will sing the hot pocket song (Thanks to Jim Gaffigan) randomly forever now, as well as the phrase "Short people" in the same tonal progression when I'm reaching for something... That's my echolalia. I will also, when frustrated or overwhelmed repeat phrases in quick succession: "I know, I know, I know" "okay, okay, okay, okay, okay" that's the palilalia.
Jim Gaffigan is the best
I do this too with hot pocket. Also his "body wash" whenever the word comes up
I do the "Okay, okay, okay, okay" thing too
If my brain was a computer, I’d have an entire folder filled to the brim with quotes. From movies, to tv shows, and even video games (and some internet stuff too) so maybe this is en example of this. Plus as a kid I would quote stuff all the time, heck I still do this
we used memes before it was cool
Brims! That's a capital idea!
My folders just have undifferentiated upper edges, and if I'm not careful in saving files to them, they fall out and turn up pseudorandomly scattered through the folder containing the folders.
@@maximilianrpm2927 we were the OG memesters
Likewise! I don't even know what people make of it...
Many people do this & it shouldn't matter what others think. I do the same thing. It brings back good feelings & memories. 🙌👏🚶❤️
And many of those people probably have other autistic traits. If not, while yes, references from movies are common ways to relate, echolalia can be more than that. It can be phrases you hear from other people, or songs. Some of us aspies can be walking talking earworms.
I get that you're trying to relate, however the way you phrased your comment is very minimising of an autistic experience that could have had traumatising moments, such as copying a parent's lecture point and getting verbally or even physically lashed for it. Or repeating someone else's crude comment or profanity and having the metaphorical or even literal soap in the mouth (metaphorical would be something like writing lines or extra chores).
Saying "many/all people do that" minimises the extremes of the autistic experience as being something so common, the intense feelings or lack of emotion which might be associated with those certain behaviours appear to be dismissed.
Everyone copies phrases and mannerisms, but not everyone does it to try and navigate the world when they were born without the socialisation handbook in quite the same way as those with it.
@@audreydoyle5268thank you for taking the time to explain this to the person who made that comment. I was so frustrated and annoyed by it and you addressed it so kindly and patiently. ✌️💕🌻
@@audreydoyle5268 Are you God? Are you judging me?
@@audreydoyle5268yeah but neurotypical don't really care about what's difference between when they do it and when other people do it that point is that everyone does it not just autistics and that's what they believe autistic people are saying online that these things are specific to them they're not yes they have different reasons for doing stuff don't we all I recognize memorizing autism is not good because people don't get the help they need is that happens but they are right partially we are all different in different ways you may have autism you may have ADHD you may even be normal we are all weird and different from each other people who have anxiety may have fidget toys people who have phonia whatever you call it may you wear ear plugs doesn't mean they are austistic
😅😅 Mine are nearly always song lyrics from my youth. I am mid60s now! "They call the wind Mariah!"
Yellow Submarine: "If you must shout, shout quietly!" (I think it's Paul) Quite useful once you've had kids, which may be why it's become a favorite after decades of saying it...
Man I do this all the time. Didn't know it meant anything. It just feels really satisfying and the more I repeat it the more "stuck" it gets.
Well it makes sense seeing as neurones when used repeatedly develop stronger connections which may lead to repeated behaviour 💪
Since the early 2000s, mine has been "It's a travel day for Tommy, so it's a travel day for us" from Hedwig and the Angry Inch. It was such a vague reference that only my sister would know what I was talking about haha
“Eggs? Eggs?!” Screamed Delilah. “Where’s the eggs?!”
When I'm particularly sleep-deprived -- which thanks to nocent bystanders happens roughly 109% of the time, such that I now have a cumulative sleep debt of approximately 23 years -- sometimes when I'm in the shower I perform a memory diagnostic.
Over my 59 years, I've amassed a store of not-quite-forgotten lore, which on such occasions I recite aloud.
On the shelves of this lore store, some favorites are:
--The Qur'an: Surahs "Al-Fatiha," "Al-Falaq," "An-Nas," "Al-Kafirun," "Al-Ikhlas" and "Ar-Rahman."
--Duas (informal supplications) of my own coinage: the eight that I recite every day, plus a rotating cast of about another score.
--Shakespeare: soliloquys and other passages from "Hamlet," "Macbeth," "Romeo and Juliet," "As You Like It," "A Midsummer Night's Dream" and "Julius Caesar."
Blake: "Tyger!"
Poe: Passages from "The Raven," "Annabel Lee," "The Tell-Tale Heart" and "The Masque of the Red Death."
Ogden Nash: "A Carol For Children" (complete).
Milton: "Stabat Mater Dolorosa."
Sergei Rachmaninov: "The Mournful Iron Bells."
Don't bother to tell me. I know I'm quite insane. 🙃
But I do have an excuse: I grew up with a mother who taught English, a father who wrote nonfiction, a librarian grandmother and a Shakespeare scholar grandfather. And then I edited newspapers, and my daughter uttered her first word at one month.
So at least I have company. 😸
@@ismailabdelirada9073 Honestly, you just sound like a fantastic conversationalist to me! 😂 As a 20-something English teacher with many bookish friends, you just sound like someone I'd probably get along with!
omg, i DO do echolalia with books and audio books! the phrase will wander through my mind and i'll end up saying it! i used to do this a lot as a kid, answering the phone with anything BUT 'hello'.
Me too! Especially after reading books of my interest (mostly history/science because..), I just HAD to store that information in my Broca's area, Wernicke's area or hippocampus or whatever just as long as I remember it.
@@ShunKaidou-d6x but it was rarely if ever with things i *heard*. i've always retained better if i can read things. i'll generally remember the side of the book and area of the page and can find it later. pdfs drive me crazy because i can't just find what i remember that way!
Could you explain the palilalia in more detail?
I know I’m really late but nobody replied to you so I might as well. I have palilalia and for me it’s mainly whispering (or mouthing with no whisper) words or phrases I just said under my breath immediately after I say it. 90% of the time I don’t even realize that I’m doing it. Like somebody else said I will also repeat quick phrases like “thank you, thank you, thank you” or other things like that.
@@maddie.143 man, I've done this my whole life and it felt like EVERYONE noticed it. Glad I'm not alone
I get this with anime, but I don't speak japanese. So at random points of certain days I might say "Yarabenakerebanaranai" which I'm not sure where I heard it or what it means, but it feels very right sometimes. On things I do actually know the meaning of "For you, Dave, I have five" from American Beauty is a big one for me
that is interesting. My working memory and short-term memory suck. I was never able to memorize movie lines or songs. I have to listen to a song 50+ times to remember the words and the word secret once I have to write it even but one thing I have found I do often is Paula Leah as you described it I repeat immediately what I hear over and over again in my head and out loud and I got myself in trouble one time at my mom‘s favorite Mexican restaurant when the owner asked my mom if she wanted chicken on her salad. I repeated as I was standing right next to her
cheek-an , cheek-an , cheek-an .
“Mario” never liked me after that. Even after I apologized immensely. He thought I was making fun of his language, but I love hearing other people‘s language. I love repeating what they say trying to say it phonetically I wish I could learn a language, but my working memories such thatit would take me a lifetime although I’m not gonna give up.
DON'T TOUCH MY STUFF!!! Wait a second... This isn't the YMCA...
I swear the definitions of these things keep changing lol. Or is it different in developmental psychology? I learned that echolalia (in infants at least) was simply repeating a sound over and over to train their mouths to form the sounds that will eventually become language. (Example: repeating “lalalalalala,” hence the word echo+lala=echolalia)
Keep educating me, Orion! I’m learning tons about myself and my fellow autistics, and as I read in another comment here, why I often got smacked without understanding the reason.
Hahaha as a kid I would say or write “Kevin! WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY ROOM?” over and over to myself
I say often Mummy is very angry (Jurassic Parc 1), or when you got to go, you got to go, same movie. But as I used to watched 100 of times the same movie, it's easy... And my memory is really good, I didn't know it was something else that memory
Me repeating the Joker's monologue of The Killing Joke while doing mundane tasks
Once my nan asked me why I was scratching my head (had real bad nits as a kid), then answered her own question by saying, "probably just the heat,"... Every time I scratched my head around her, I'd say it, until one time I scratched at night... In the dead middle of winter. The words didn't click in my head, but I thought it would work as a "get out of jail free/escape the nit comb". It clicked that night though.
Usually when I repeat movie phrases, it makes light of a dark situation or vice versa, more so the latter. I like gallows humour, especially when there's a matching movie/show phrase that pops into my head. Makes people laugh about 80% of the time.
I also repeat ¿por que no los dos? or "There is a third option...." Almost every time I'm choosing between two or three things.
Now I just have the song Echolalia, by Something for Kate, playing in my head and Im quite happy with that. 😊
Although now reading further and realising my own echolalia.
I do this with Disney/Pixar and movies from when I was a kid
My favourite line that stuck in my head was from Eurotrip "This isn't where I parked my car..."😂 but it applies to so much.
Acquaintance: Hey T, did I see you over at (insert shady ass part of town/sketchy ass neighborhood).
Me: Dude, that's not where I park my car.
I also seem to repeat tones and alerts from phones. So, let's say someone, anyone's phone, alerts... my dumbass be on the other side of the room repeating the sound and getting the person looking for the phone absolutely confused
I always quote ones that sound intellectual and most of the time I hyper fixate on those phrases/sentences on a daily basis and become utterly upset (or feel moronic) if I forget.
this occurred to me after reading noli me tangere uh and I utter those phrases/sentences out of the blue which sort of annoy others.
At first when I read the title I thought it said paraphilia instead of palilalia and I thought "YES! He's finally going to open up the discussion on autism and paraphilias!" Then I realized what it actually said. So disappointing, I'm tired of feeling like a freak with no one talking about the issues I'm dealing with
Where did you get that hoodie I need it
My echolalia movies: Joe Versus the Volcano, Mystery Men, O Brother Where Art Thou, Princess Bride . Home Alone is a good choice, though!
I'm extremely social, im very good at reading people to the point where i want to possibly study psychology. But this exact thing happens to me with movie quotes ill just randomly pull one out regardless of the setting. And also sometimes if i hear a song it can stay in my head playing over and over for long periods of time. Am i on the spectrum? Lol
"How do you get to be so smart?"
There is a third option....
@@audreydoyle5268 😅
I think I have this but I don’t have autism. Should I be worried?
My godmother has palilalia. She repeats the last word of your sentence.
Whenever I hear an interesting sound or accent I want to immediately copy it. But I don't want to offend people so I don't. But a movie at home is fair game.
I think this video was awesome, but you could’ve emphasized more on the difference between the two.
Ahhhh!!!!! Once again… this is just like me. 😅
Funny I think. A lot of people kinda do that paladalia or whatever way it's spelt 😂
I don't think this is an Autism specific thing? I do this all the time when i'm alone or around people that I have a high degree trust with (i.e. won't be weirded out). I assume most people do. I've been considered normal/have fit in well with society for almost my entire life. Perhaps with Autism its just MORE pronounced?
Oh so i have both thanks lol
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