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@@cae2487 yeah i don't dislike the guy personally. I don't care for some of his sales tactics. But it's objectively true that his anvils are better made. I personally don't like the designs but some people prefer them and that's alright.
@OldHickoryForge I can 100% understand that. I appreciate you putting this anvil through its paces and enjoy seeing the work you do. Thanks for sharing with us all.
@@tango-bravo any of the current anvil manufactures selling 200lb anvils in the 1500-2000 range. If vevor kept the cost below 5-600, it’d sell like hot cakes.
I was thinking of asking them to make a 100kg, 220 lb anvil, or around that weight. It would be the one for me, and I'd get it right away. I wasn't too happy with the small size of my 66 lb Anvil, i wish I got a 132 lb because I was deceived. But my next stop would be the 200 lb
@@xxskippernate409xx6 the only problem I see (atleast in the states) is shipping. Freight adds a whole different set of complications to people considering a purchase. Still, if they came out with an anvil 200 plus under 600 including shipping, I’d have one in my shop as soon as I could.
Really enjoyed your review, John. Very honest effort to actually break this thing…far beyond what it would get with a newbie hobbyist smith (me). I bought the Doyle cast steel anvil based on your review and really like it. Thank you!
John I absolutely love these videos. Not only are your anvil reviews amazing reviews, but they are also fantastic walkthroughs for new smiths and give a couple new beginner projects for us in each one. Truly love them!
I was impressed that it didn't snap off the heel by the 3rd strike with the 30 pounder. I started with a scrap yard 4x4 inch block of steel. A piece of RR track was a step up for me, & now i have a nice JM.. But I would have loved to have that anvil to start with. Lol
I purchased this anvil based off your review. I received it this week in similar shipping fashion. I am just starting out and enjoy your videos. Thanks for doing these!
Nothin’ to it, really. You beat the dog snot outta that little booger. I’m quite impressed (and surprised) how it took that 30# hammer beating. Thanks for showing us and sharing a real review of the 66# vevor anvil!
Hi John, I really enjoy your videos. You are clearly an expert, and a great presenter. I have really enjoyed watching. I have one comment, though, or observation, and that is about the proportions of the anvil you are reviewing. You say, starting at 4:25 you comment that they have pushed back the step and horn towards the center of the anvil. On the strength of this observation I carefully studied the illustrations from Vevor and decided on the 110 lb. London pattern anvil. On mine, which I received Saturday (poor FedEx guy!) the step and horn seem appropriately positioned. I noticed the proportions are exactly like the early 20th century illustration on the cover of my newly acquired copy of Practical Blacksmithing by M.T. Richardson (except the illustrated anvil has a small step on the heel). So, thank you for pointing this out. I look forward to you someday reviewing the 110 lb. version.
Thank you, this is a very enjoyable and informative video. I've referred several others to this. You seem like a really nice guy, and come across as quite sincere and knowledgable. I'lve watched several other of your videos. I'm just starting out, even though I'm retired. I just ordered the 110 lb. version of this "London pattern" anvil, which appeals to me, for some reason. I'm sure it will work out. Thanks again.
You and Roy from CCIW are doing a great job, in your own ways, of getting this type of info out there. Nice work, it looks like a great value anvil, I wish we could make them here in the US
I think you're selling that anvil short.. its much better than a beater anvil.. I wish those were an option when I started.. I probably would still be using it 8 years later and have much more money in the bank.. lol.. it handled your 30 pound sledge which says alot about its Quality.. I'd give it a thumbs up for sure .. good video.
L stumbled onto this channel and i sure like it. He presents without any "fillers", ahhh, ummm, etc, so his words just f;lows like melted solder. GOOD JOB, SIR!
Very nice review. A very helpful and very informative video. Thanks so much. Can't wait to see more updates an projects and many more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On Fab On. Weld On. Keep forge lit. Keep Making. God bless.
bother I love the walkthrough, I am just about to pull the trigger on the craft (to give me something to work towards perfecting in retirement), and I appreciate your honest feedback and watching you beat on this thing.
I’d love to hear more about the pros and cons of the London pattern versus the double horn pattern. Well - at least the ones that are available for less than $350…
Thanks for the info. I just received one that I bought from Vevor for $138ish with free shipping. I'm just getting started as a hobby for now. If ever given the chance, I'd like to meet and get some in person tips. I'm in Salisbury.
in the UK, i got one of the double horn 66lb anvils few months ago, 66lb due to shop size 6meters by 3.5meters, first one that came had a huge surface delamination and a bunged up pritchel and hardy hole at the half way point, so a poor casting and no quality control, i had to jump through a couple of hoops like declining money off and the request to get it repaired, but they sent me a new one and told me to keep the old one, second one was much better, only fault was a couple of very small pits in the edge, for the money these cast steel anvils are stupidly good, esp when you consider they are a door step delivery, one of the main barriers to getting an anvil has been pick up only, without a car its a no go but having a new clean anvil at very affordable price is amazing, even the 132lb anvil is very affordable, just too big for me at the time. Vevor in the UK seems to have less stuff now, alot more choices in the usa, the new 10 speed mag drill is one we are missing over here, would love one of them the anvil in this vid dos have a much better placed pritchel hole but the double horn seems alot more useful or adaptable, as a starter or small shop anvil you cant really go wrong, heck i got two for the price of one, i'll be able to adapt the other one for specialist stuff if i need to
Boy howdy brother that lil gal took a good licking and smiled like a champ! Great review from the get go to got er did. Thanks alot for your continued service in all the ways you do. Blessings abundant Sir Crawford out 🙏🔥⚒️🧙🏼♂️
They like giving away the 66lbs for review, be nice to compare their full line; I got a 132lb, black painted double horn, has giant 1-3/16 holes and super phat round horn, so needs hardy bick/mandrel for tight curls which is fine, Rings good except around the hardy which I’m sure is the relatively thin mass from hole to edge and not the casting I wouldn’t forge a a giant hardy shaft in it like this but it’s sturdy enough and great paired with a swage block and/or shimming the hardy hole to 1” with a steel tube
John, thank you for your review of both the Vevor anvils. You are thorough, consistent, and demonstrate a good understanding of your craft. I was born in '61, and graduated Benning in '85. May I respectfully inquire, do you refer to every belief and opinion with which you disagree as "boomer nonsense"? You do know we're not all the same, right? Let's make a deal. If you won't be prejudicial about your elders, we will try not to hold your youth and inexperience against you. 😊 I really enjoy your content. I know you didn't intentionally mean to disrespect every member of my generation. It just came out wrong.
No. I don't refer to any opinion or belief I disagree with as "boomer nonsense" I refer to boomer nonsense and boomer nonsense. I know good and well that *every boomer. Is not the same. However if you've spent any reasonable amount of time in the blacksmith community you'll very quickly see what I'm talking about. Very often an older smith will spout some absolute nonsense and when corrected by someone younger than them will cite their age and alleged experience to feign credibility. Age does not equal experience. Someone who's been spending a couple hours a month in a buddies backyard. Is vastly incomparable to someone who's spent even one year smithing full time. With rhetoric such as "old anvils are better because they don't make em like they used to" being propagated which is objectively false and easily disproven. It's a mindset and an attitude that I have absolutely no patience or respect for
Great video thanks for sharing! I got the Blue 60lb anvil from Vevor and it has major casting voids. They did send me a replacement but it had even bigger casting voids.
Which one would you buy this Vevor, or the Harbor Freight Doyle? Watched both your videos on these two anvils, and they were very informative. Thanks...
Tries to break the heel with a hammer that is _half the weight of the anvil,_ breaks the stump instead. I have the 88lbs blue painted double horn that vevor sells (i hate the location of the pritchel hole), the top half doesn't seem to have any flaws at all, but there were pretty noticable divots in the feet. Still works for everything i need.
Ive got the 66lb double horn anvil, love it. Ive had it for about 4 or 5 years. I also have the 132lb and was completely dissappointed. The face was soft and when i tried to get them to do something about it, they sent me to the person opperating their ebay store and they would never even reply to me. Over $300 wasted. I have ordered many different things from that company but that was the last. I have had it now for a year and a half and cant use it. I always loved vevor until that left a bad taste in my mouth.
I use an NC tool anvil, specifically their 70lb knife maker model, its nice, but my only complaint is the shape of the horn, it's pretty wide even towards the tip.
After stripping the paint off of it, what do you put in it to “protect” it over the years? Is linseed oil enough or is there some other product that works better? Thanks.
@@davidt8438 linseed oil will work fine. Wd40 works also. Back when I had my forging setup outdoors I would spray down my anvil with wd40 at the end of each day to keep it from rusting. But honestly a little rust won't really hurt if
I’m not sure what’s wrong with the video but as soon as I click on it, it crashes my app or just keeps trying to load with no results. Adds keep playing before but as soon as it should start your video, crash. Hopefully I’ll be able to watch it soon. Love your content
silly question, but wouldn't quenching the top of the tool so it doesn't move risk cracking it? if it's a water quenching steel then obviously no issue but what if it's not?
If you cool it too much yes. But since you're not agitating during the quenching to break up the steam jacket. It cools too slow to harden. The residual heat in the bottom of the tool would keep it from cooling enough to harden as well.
@@OldHickoryForge thanks for the reply seems daunting but maybe some day i hope i can forge my own axe from scratch as a upstart weekend black smith 👍if you have the time it would be great to see a video from you hand forge an axe using this anvil
I got a German style 50lb anvil from eBay from a German company ( OZWerks ) a few years ago and it was great value for money for €200 plus shipping at a rough guess 🤔 I do have a 220 lb Waterford anvil 🇮🇪 and it’s seen a good amount of work and it’s still going strong 💪
Ok first let me say, “You did get lucky on the anvil you got from them!!”. The reason I say that is because I ordered (with my own money, so the anvil wasn’t given to me for review or whatever reason “, and I got the 113 pound anvil and it came with all kinds of casting flaws and the bottom of the anvil had pieces chipped off during the casting process and I know this because I work in a steal mill that does molds and casting, so I know!!”. They had tried to patch it and even go as far as welding a spot on the top of the horn to try and fix it, but, when I contacted them their customer support was am awesome after i explained exactly what was wrong with it and how it happened and they almost immediately sent me another email stating they would send me a brand new one and that I didn’t even have to send back the broken one, so that was cool!! I’m still waiting on them to reply to my message and send me one out though so I would say that I highly recommend their products!!!
The real reason a black smith keeps striking with the hammer is to make the boss think he is still working. 😀 (The boss -of course, is the person cooking dinner.)
There’s no slave labor in China, they’re just really efficient at production; Wages are up 400% and absolute poverty has been eliminated entirely, getting better every day and we’re not supposed to know
It is usable. Good test. 👍 If it didn’t break under that thirty pound hammer, with you swinging it, it’s tough enough. I’m leaning towards the positive, but I’m still going to wait and see if that wasn’t the one good one in ten. I want a modest living room anvil. I have a hot fire going all winter. Seems wasted without an anvil near by. You never know when you need to repair a spatula in a hurry. Go on laugh. I’ve done it. It’s funny. I started with railroad track. Graduated to those early 66 pound anvil wanna be’s. They were so soft! wow. P.S. As a ‘Boomer” , I would like to apologize for my generation’s habit of believing and spreading fairytales and outright b.s. concerning the basic metallurgy involved in producing, forging or casting and tempering iron and steel. All I can say to my peer group is “Just because you loved grandpa, doesn’t mean he wasn’t full of sh*t! God bless him.” BTW, tell him that dunking a piece of hot , mild steel in a dixie cup full of soapy water is not going to magically make it hard. I’ll stop here before things get vulgar.
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So after all the hard times given on fb its awfully nice of you to throw the atlas knife and tool on the list.
@@cae2487 yeah i don't dislike the guy personally. I don't care for some of his sales tactics. But it's objectively true that his anvils are better made. I personally don't like the designs but some people prefer them and that's alright.
@OldHickoryForge I can 100% understand that. I appreciate you putting this anvil through its paces and enjoy seeing the work you do. Thanks for sharing with us all.
If they’d make one of these in the 200+ pound range there’d be alot of folks out of business.
@Legbreaker1the new London pattern? This one and a little Italian pig 22lb anvil are new. (Proper horns, proper hardy and pritchel holes)
Who do you figure would be out of business?
@@tango-bravo any of the current anvil manufactures selling 200lb anvils in the 1500-2000 range. If vevor kept the cost below 5-600, it’d sell like hot cakes.
I was thinking of asking them to make a 100kg, 220 lb anvil, or around that weight. It would be the one for me, and I'd get it right away. I wasn't too happy with the small size of my 66 lb Anvil, i wish I got a 132 lb because I was deceived. But my next stop would be the 200 lb
@@xxskippernate409xx6 the only problem I see (atleast in the states) is shipping. Freight adds a whole different set of complications to people considering a purchase. Still, if they came out with an anvil 200 plus under 600 including shipping, I’d have one in my shop as soon as I could.
Really enjoyed your review, John. Very honest effort to actually break this thing…far beyond what it would get with a newbie hobbyist smith (me). I bought the Doyle cast steel anvil based on your review and really like it. Thank you!
John I absolutely love these videos. Not only are your anvil reviews amazing reviews, but they are also fantastic walkthroughs for new smiths and give a couple new beginner projects for us in each one. Truly love them!
This is the first of your videos that I have had the pleaser of watching. Well done and I will be watching more of them.
Good deal it looks like it's worth the money. I really enjoy the honesty in your reviews and the way you swing that sledge I bet people call you SIR.
I was impressed that it didn't snap off the heel by the 3rd strike with the 30 pounder. I started with a scrap yard 4x4 inch block of steel. A piece of RR track was a step up for me, & now i have a nice JM.. But I would have loved to have that anvil to start with. Lol
I purchased this anvil based off your review. I received it this week in similar shipping fashion.
I am just starting out and enjoy your videos. Thanks for doing these!
Nothin’ to it, really. You beat the dog snot outta that little booger. I’m quite impressed (and surprised) how it took that 30# hammer beating. Thanks for showing us and sharing a real review of the 66# vevor anvil!
Hi John, I really enjoy your videos. You are clearly an expert, and a great presenter. I have really enjoyed watching. I have one comment, though, or observation, and that is about the proportions of the anvil you are reviewing. You say, starting at 4:25 you comment that they have pushed back the step and horn towards the center of the anvil. On the strength of this observation I carefully studied the illustrations from Vevor and decided on the 110 lb. London pattern anvil. On mine, which I received Saturday (poor FedEx guy!) the step and horn seem appropriately positioned. I noticed the proportions are exactly like the early 20th century illustration on the cover of my newly acquired copy of Practical Blacksmithing by M.T. Richardson (except the illustrated anvil has a small step on the heel). So, thank you for pointing this out. I look forward to you someday reviewing the 110 lb. version.
You really beat the crap out of it and it survived. I am impressed!
John, thanks for the ethics at the end.
Something to always keep in mind, if it’s cheap and good, the savings came from labor.
Kudos.
Love your workshop, mate. Keep these videos coming. Cheers.
Thank you, this is a very enjoyable and informative video. I've referred several others to this. You seem like a really nice guy, and come across as quite sincere and knowledgable. I'lve watched several other of your videos. I'm just starting out, even though I'm retired. I just ordered the 110 lb. version of this "London pattern" anvil, which appeals to me, for some reason. I'm sure it will work out. Thanks again.
finally they came out with a london style. Very affordable too. Think i'll pick one up.
It's perfect for me. I'm a beginner knife maker at 57yrs young and my 9yr old grandson is always working by my side. Great video
Your videos are great and you're a gifted teacher. Thank you.
I don't need this anvil, I have enough anvils
That being said... I kinda wanna get one.
You and Roy from CCIW are doing a great job, in your own ways, of getting this type of info out there. Nice work, it looks like a great value anvil, I wish we could make them here in the US
I think you're selling that anvil short.. its much better than a beater anvil.. I wish those were an option when I started.. I probably would still be using it 8 years later and have much more money in the bank.. lol.. it handled your 30 pound sledge which says alot about its Quality.. I'd give it a thumbs up for sure .. good video.
Your always a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work Brotha.
the rhythmic sounds of hitting hot iron is addicting
Very cool. You make it look so easy.
L stumbled onto this channel and i sure like it. He presents without any "fillers", ahhh, ummm, etc, so his words just f;lows like melted solder. GOOD JOB, SIR!
Very nice review. A very helpful and very informative video. Thanks so much. Can't wait to see more updates an projects and many more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On
Fab On. Weld On. Keep forge lit. Keep Making. God bless.
bother I love the walkthrough, I am just about to pull the trigger on the craft (to give me something to work towards perfecting in retirement), and I appreciate your honest feedback and watching you beat on this thing.
I may need to get me one of these... in the 132 pound variant
I’d love to hear more about the pros and cons of the London pattern versus the double horn pattern. Well - at least the ones that are available for less than $350…
Great video! Btw if you came out with an old hickory forge shirt that had “Nothin’ to it really” I would definitely buy one
Thanks for the info. I just received one that I bought from Vevor for $138ish with free shipping. I'm just getting started as a hobby for now. If ever given the chance, I'd like to meet and get some in person tips. I'm in Salisbury.
Hey it was good meeting you!
Outstanding review John great seeing you again 👍👊
Vevor really stepped up their game on this one
in the UK, i got one of the double horn 66lb anvils few months ago, 66lb due to shop size 6meters by 3.5meters,
first one that came had a huge surface delamination and a bunged up pritchel and hardy hole at the half way point, so a poor casting and no quality control,
i had to jump through a couple of hoops like declining money off and the request to get it repaired, but they sent me a new one and told me to keep the old one, second one was much better, only fault was a couple of very small pits in the edge,
for the money these cast steel anvils are stupidly good, esp when you consider they are a door step delivery, one of the main barriers to getting an anvil has been pick up only, without a car its a no go but having a new clean anvil at very affordable price is amazing, even the 132lb anvil is very affordable, just too big for me at the time.
Vevor in the UK seems to have less stuff now, alot more choices in the usa, the new 10 speed mag drill is one we are missing over here, would love one of them
the anvil in this vid dos have a much better placed pritchel hole but the double horn seems alot more useful or adaptable,
as a starter or small shop anvil you cant really go wrong, heck i got two for the price of one, i'll be able to adapt the other one for specialist stuff if i need to
Boy howdy brother that lil gal took a good licking and smiled like a champ!
Great review from the get go to got er did. Thanks alot for your continued service in all the ways you do.
Blessings abundant Sir
Crawford out 🙏🔥⚒️🧙🏼♂️
They like giving away the 66lbs for review, be nice to compare their full line;
I got a 132lb, black painted double horn, has giant 1-3/16 holes and super phat round horn, so needs hardy bick/mandrel for tight curls which is fine,
Rings good except around the hardy which I’m sure is the relatively thin mass from hole to edge and not the casting
I wouldn’t forge a a giant hardy shaft in it like this but it’s sturdy enough and great paired with a swage block and/or shimming the hardy hole to 1” with a steel tube
bro i just ordered this i was really hoping to see u review this. love your videos great work
You really went to town on the heel with that 30lb sledge and it didn't break I'm impressed.
John, thank you for your review of both the Vevor anvils. You are thorough, consistent, and demonstrate a good understanding of your craft.
I was born in '61, and graduated Benning in '85.
May I respectfully inquire, do you refer to every belief and opinion with which you disagree as "boomer nonsense"?
You do know we're not all the same, right?
Let's make a deal. If you won't be prejudicial about your elders, we will try not to hold your youth and inexperience against you. 😊
I really enjoy your content. I know you didn't intentionally mean to disrespect every member of my generation. It just came out wrong.
No. I don't refer to any opinion or belief I disagree with as "boomer nonsense" I refer to boomer nonsense and boomer nonsense. I know good and well that *every boomer. Is not the same. However if you've spent any reasonable amount of time in the blacksmith community you'll very quickly see what I'm talking about. Very often an older smith will spout some absolute nonsense and when corrected by someone younger than them will cite their age and alleged experience to feign credibility. Age does not equal experience. Someone who's been spending a couple hours a month in a buddies backyard. Is vastly incomparable to someone who's spent even one year smithing full time. With rhetoric such as "old anvils are better because they don't make em like they used to" being propagated which is objectively false and easily disproven. It's a mindset and an attitude that I have absolutely no patience or respect for
Thanks for the review and the list
I cant make a desicion between the red doyle or the black one you see in the video. Which one is better?
What type of casting is the anvil? Is it cast steel or cast iron? steel is better. I like your shop.
Great video thanks for sharing! I got the Blue 60lb anvil from Vevor and it has major casting voids. They did send me a replacement but it had even bigger casting voids.
Did you tell them what exactly you didn’t like about the “decorative” holes in your anvil?
@@firstmkb yes I was very specific in that and sent pics
@@treyzmodels422 just a lame joke about expectations. Who would look at an anvil with large voids and think it was a good product?
vevor saw that this anvil is selling good and they raised the price almost 2 times. yeah thats nice of them
Which one would you buy this Vevor, or the Harbor Freight Doyle? Watched both your videos on these two anvils, and they were very informative. Thanks...
Good review John, thanks 👍 It looks good for the price.
I wonder if you put a straight edge on top of anvil to see any slight bend on that hardy hole area?
How well does this one stack up agaisnt the 66lb Doyle anvil from Harbor Freight?
Do they have a heavier version? I like the London pattern
Would you recommend this over the Doyle?
Tries to break the heel with a hammer that is _half the weight of the anvil,_ breaks the stump instead.
I have the 88lbs blue painted double horn that vevor sells (i hate the location of the pritchel hole), the top half doesn't seem to have any flaws at all, but there were pretty noticable divots in the feet. Still works for everything i need.
Can you weld up the pores or defects in the casting? Is that a realistic repair?
You need helper and heavier hammer for some of that work. Thanks for demonstration
Im glad she held up to that 30 slamming the heel that hard!👍
Is add Fontanini to your list of high end anvil manufacturers
Ive got the 66lb double horn anvil, love it. Ive had it for about 4 or 5 years. I also have the 132lb and was completely dissappointed. The face was soft and when i tried to get them to do something about it, they sent me to the person opperating their ebay store and they would never even reply to me. Over $300 wasted. I have ordered many different things from that company but that was the last. I have had it now for a year and a half and cant use it. I always loved vevor until that left a bad taste in my mouth.
I use an NC tool anvil, specifically their 70lb knife maker model, its nice, but my only complaint is the shape of the horn, it's pretty wide even towards the tip.
Great review
That hammer is sweet! Can you do a video and make one ?
After stripping the paint off of it, what do you put in it to “protect” it over the years? Is linseed oil enough or is there some other product that works better? Thanks.
@@davidt8438 linseed oil will work fine. Wd40 works also. Back when I had my forging setup outdoors I would spray down my anvil with wd40 at the end of each day to keep it from rusting. But honestly a little rust won't really hurt if
What is a good swage block for a smith looking for one?
Holland anvil makes a variety of them that are very high quality and fairly priced
I wish I knew they had made this before I bought that red Doyle, it ain't bad by any means but I love my London pattern
Currently deciding between this or the Doyle. What do you like about the London pattern specifically?
Thanks, this helped. Great channel 😌👌
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hey,... just got my first Columbian anvil. Not alot of info out there.
Also have the 132 Vevor.
Hello. Can you said me the measurements of the base of the modelo Vevor 66lb. Thanks from Spain.
Really enjoy your video 👍👍
Would you recommend this or the Doyle from harbor freight?
I personally would go for the Doyle. Bigger work face and I've always preferred to double horn style
Great review...thanks
silly question, but wouldn't quenching the top of the tool so it doesn't move risk cracking it? if it's a water quenching steel then obviously no issue but what if it's not?
If you cool it too much yes. But since you're not agitating during the quenching to break up the steam jacket. It cools too slow to harden. The residual heat in the bottom of the tool would keep it from cooling enough to harden as well.
@@OldHickoryForge makes perfect sense to me!
Great Info as per usual! :)
Nice video. Thanks.
Between this and the doyle one from HF, which would be the better choice for a beginner?
I'd prefer the Doyle just because I like the double horn style better
Got any info on a John Powell Birmingham 151 pounds . Markings J Powell back side 1 1 11 being 151 pounds.
Might have to pick one up for a second demo anvil. Dont forget Fontanini anvil
I heard somewhere that they quit making those? I could be wrong.
@@OldHickoryForgeoriginally he sold the brand but the new guy wasn't fulfilling orders so he bought it back and brought them back to market
I dont know if you can or want to but is it possible to forge an axe head using that anvil or is it to small?
You certainly could. People have been making axes on much smaller anvils for thousands of years
@@OldHickoryForge thanks for the reply seems daunting but maybe some day i hope i can forge my own axe from scratch as a upstart weekend black smith 👍if you have the time it would be great to see a video from you hand forge an axe using this anvil
Are there anvils with the double horn, but still have the step in by the front horn like the London pattern? Could that be the best of both worlds?
Rhino anvils are made that way I believe
Are you sure about quenching(i.e. hardening) the top of that tool?
Don't cool it enough to harden. The residual heat from the bottom of the tool will keep it soft as well.
Would you recommend this over the doyle anvil from harbor freight?
Personally I'd go with the Doyle. I prefer the double horn style.
@@OldHickoryForgeGood to know. Thank you.
Thankyou for highlighting the suspect manufacturing source.
I got a German style 50lb anvil from eBay from a German company ( OZWerks ) a few years ago and it was great value for money for €200 plus shipping at a rough guess 🤔 I do have a 220 lb Waterford anvil 🇮🇪 and it’s seen a good amount of work and it’s still going strong 💪
OMMFGGD BRO YOU'RE GONNA HURT YOUR BACKKKKKK AHHHHHHHH
Nice one John, good review, poor anvil, the beating😅👍 $130 is ridiculously cheap...
Thanks for your review. I can't justify a quality anvil but need something to beat on. I'm just a fabricator.
That was fairly abusive. I would say that's not a trash anvil.
Where is the video on why an anvil from a rail is not good?
Hey John...is your middle name "Henry"? If it isn't...it should've been!!! 😁
@@Master...deBater Howard actually. Not that far off 😂
Ok first let me say, “You did get lucky on the anvil you got from them!!”. The reason I say that is because I ordered (with my own money, so the anvil wasn’t given to me for review or whatever reason “, and I got the 113 pound anvil and it came with all kinds of casting flaws and the bottom of the anvil had pieces chipped off during the casting process and I know this because I work in a steal mill that does molds and casting, so I know!!”. They had tried to patch it and even go as far as welding a spot on the top of the horn to try and fix it, but, when I contacted them their customer support was am awesome after i explained exactly what was wrong with it and how it happened and they almost immediately sent me another email stating they would send me a brand new one and that I didn’t even have to send back the broken one, so that was cool!! I’m still waiting on them to reply to my message and send me one out though so I would say that I highly recommend their products!!!
The real reason a black smith keeps striking with the hammer is to make the boss think he is still working. 😀
(The boss -of course, is the person cooking dinner.)
ok good review
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Just reminding you of this year's halloween hammer ;)
"You get the idea."
I’d never you the step as a sacrificial cutting surface, better to use a piece of plate metal or scrap than damage your anvil.
i know you talked about it in the beginning of the video but my back huts just watching you use that short stump...rip
There’s no slave labor in China, they’re just really efficient at production;
Wages are up 400% and absolute poverty has been eliminated entirely, getting better every day and we’re not supposed to know
I hope you’re kidding
@@CaptainTwitchyYou beat me to it.😂
There are also no concentration camps where they house muslims or political dissidents either, right?
Commie shill.
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Why do you have it so dam low?? Just because it's small it should be up to proper height
I explain it in the video. Thanks for watching
@@OldHickoryForge Yep, you explain it clearly in the video. Some people just like to complain. It gives them meaning in life.
It is usable. Good test. 👍 If it didn’t break under that thirty pound hammer, with you swinging it, it’s tough enough.
I’m leaning towards the positive, but I’m still going to wait and see if that wasn’t the one good one in ten. I want a modest living room anvil. I have a hot fire going all winter. Seems wasted without an anvil near by.
You never know when you need to repair a spatula in a hurry. Go on laugh. I’ve done it. It’s funny.
I started with railroad track. Graduated to those early 66 pound anvil wanna be’s. They were so soft! wow.
P.S.
As a ‘Boomer” , I would like to apologize for my generation’s habit of believing and spreading fairytales and outright b.s. concerning the basic metallurgy involved in producing, forging or casting and tempering iron and steel.
All I can say to my peer group is “Just because you loved grandpa, doesn’t mean he wasn’t full of sh*t! God bless him.”
BTW, tell him that dunking a piece of hot , mild steel in a dixie cup full of soapy water is not going to magically make it hard. I’ll stop here before things get vulgar.