Testing a mini fridge for our outdoor kitchen and going over the plans!
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- I test a mini fridge to see if it can handle the heat on our porch and explain our plans for our outdoor kitchen.
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Andrew I would reverse the U, you're going to be bringing stuff from inside and now you have to walk all the way around. I think you still need a u-shape to hide the gas lines. I recommend using steel framing and either do stucco or cultured stone on the sides. You'll hate a tile countertop, stuff likes getting in the grout.
Yes, steel framing or concrete block if you want it to last! Wood will not last long and you will regret it. For the countertops I would search for Pre-Fab quartz countertops (its just man made granite).. around here you can get the pre-fab tops with a bullnose edge already done in like 9' lengths and cut to length yourself. You can get granite too but it will not hold up outside as well. Actually you're East Coast so you probably just need a polished edge with the 3cm thick material. Out here its all 2cm (or 3/4 inch) so you have to have an edge detail put on it. At any rate its doable, beautiful, long lasting, and very cost effective. I would definitely keep the cooktop(s) OFF of the wall of the house. That is asking for issues.
I agree with reversing the U. I also had the thought of putting the opening in the middle of that 10' long counter. So you still have seating pool side for guests, but you still aren't walking as far. Would also help keep the grill heat away from guests.
I also like the idea of extending the countertop to and maybe around the post. Not the cabinets, just the countertop.
Won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
I didn't think about the windows, a drop down would look like an after thought as well. I do like the idea of incorporating the column, if you have to go short one way might as well go a little longer out. Then you and Tiffany aren't tripping over each other behind the bar. I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
Consider extending counter top out to include that 6x6 post. It really doesn’t add much for cost and will look less awkward. You can then pull the post into design and hang some side planters or maybe signs like bar open, etc.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
I agree with him go out to the post and figure out a way to mitigate the rain. Have that post make the outside corner
Maybe 45 that corner to give more room walking between the post and bar
@@TKCL you will want that extra space on the inside. think about as your cooking and some one wants a beverage you will either have to squeeze by or move out of the way.
The refrigerator is for Tiffany and I only, our friends have always brought their own coolers.
I would make the U shape open to the side that is the same side of the main entrance door. For ease of grabbing stuff in and out instead of having to walk all the way around. Install the drink fridge at the post facing the same direction on the main entrance door as its not needed for cooking at and more for the family and friends that come over. Wouldnt want them in the kitchen as your cooking when they just want a drink. Basically make it face out. Having the closed off side of the U shape at the corner of the window would cut off the view from the guest area in order to keep a cleaner look and appearance while cooking too. Basically at 15:38 where your facing the wall/window I would make that span countertop. All this would still allow you to run gas line and electric around to appliances.
Won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
Watch for restaurants that are auctioning stainless steel tables -- you might get lucky
This is your space so do what you want. From my little experience with outdoor kitchens with tile as the counter top, I didn't like having all the seams between the tiles. As I seen someone else mention I'd try for solid surface scraps if you can find some that would work or just "buy once cry once" and get stainless tops. Dealing with food and drinks on a surface with many seams just makes you have to spend way more time keeping it clean and you'll end up wishing you would have went ahead and spent the extra upfront for a solid surface top. Again this is your space, do what you like. That's just my thoughts. I can't wait to see it complete.
For an outdoor kitchen I say the number one most important thing is make it really easy to clean, even something you can pressure wash or at least spray with a bunch of degreaser and hose off.
Make your faucet one of the tall ones you can stick a pot under it. An exhaust fan above it to move air away or a fan blowing so you don’t get smoke and stuff hanging up there but you don’t want a ton of air moving that’s gonna hit a grill or something that needs to maintain temperature.
Any kind of cabinets you get should be really well sealed to keep bugs and mice out. I don’t know what to do about the Bears 😂
I would also wire a couple of outlets under the edge of the bar so people can charge phones and stuff like that or you can plug your camera in or an extra fan or light or something out there just so you don’t have to have everything by the wall. GFCI of course since you’re outside. A dinner bell. A security camera on it.
If you going to incorporate the cooking stuff and you’re gonna do wood would I would consider would be to run a decorative stone or tile edge and wrap that around the Blackstone so you don’t have any heat issues, it’ll also be easier to clean if grease splatters a little bit while you’re cooking.
One thing I would do is find a place that does the granite countertops and talk to them about scraps. They get a lot of end cuts that are just under size or have an uneven edge, sometimes you can get some pretty decent size slabs for cheap. I would do tile if I couldn’t find any good granite pieces. Tile works great and it’s easy to clean and it’s weather resistant and it’s easy to update if you wanna change the look later.
It might be cool to have a deep fryer out there. I like the idea of deep frying but I don’t eat that much deep-fried food but it would be really cool, especially if you were doing a catch cook and clean thing.
I think it’s gonna be pretty cool and this fall when things start to cool off it’s gonna be really nice to get out there.
Thank you for the ideas
I was thinking about remnants, too. There's no law that says you have to be matchy matchy, it just needs to look intentional. Maybe a remnant of stone on the bar level and a restaurant style counter on the work surface area on the cooking side. Reclaimed wood or something cool under resin on the sink/refrigerator side.
I would definitely come out 10 ft. Thus making the space 10 X 10 ft. More room for 2 people to move about.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
Andrew, hi from Australia. Longtime watcher, first time for commenting. Thinking of your pool plans, have you looked at Shipping Container pools? I am sure there would be companies in USA that build these type of pools. Anyway, just an idea for an above ground pool if that is an option your looking at. Keep up the good work - you and Tiffany have done so much. If I can also pass on some advice, you should use Tiffany's name more often replacing 'she' and 'her' which you sometime over use.
We have, no one around here offers them. Biggest reason we don't want one is how narrow they are.
Nice review Andrew 👍. Stone coat countertops by you would make some awesome video content my friend ❤️.👍👍 keep up the good work.
If you come over 10 ft. with the bar top will it mess up your view when you are inside looking out the window?
Only a part of one window.
Why not finish the bar top surface with plate glass. Easy to clean and you can put pictures under to be changed as you see fit periodically.
Glass in general has me concerned with a bunch of guests, banging dishes around, bottles and children.
I have to agree with Russell Parker, you want a large double sink. I had a small one and had to rip it out to replace it after six months. I didn't realize how much I would need it for food prep for the grill and smoker. Right now one half contains my old fashion ice cream freezer churning the best ice cream ever.
Yummmmm, homemade ice cream!
My opinion for countertops is plywood and stonecoat epoxy. They look awesome and very DIY with multiple colors. Check out their website thinking about doing it in my house. Love the videos. KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK
I've watched a lot of their videos.
Sounds great I would recommend two things Engineered stone for the countertops and too reconsider the end counter the walk around every time you need to go get something from the house will become excessive leave both ends open
Why not make a loose bar top piece to bridge the gap suggested by Craig. Could be removed or hinged down out of the way when the installation is not being used by lots of guests etc.
If you do a U shape, put refrigerator at the open end to keep the traffic down while cooking.
@@johnshepherd7958 I second this idea.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
I highly doubt the refrigerator is used by guests, they always bring their own coolers.
Clark & Deborah: You may want to do a complete L shape raised bar, cause you know people are going to be hanging/standing on the back side, on the front porch area. Just a thought....Great review, strong little frig👍
I do plan to do that
Had another thought. If you put the mini fridge directly under the window. Then when you use the window as a pass through, you can set your trays of food directly onto the top of the fridge. Then when you go outside you can just move the food down into the fridge. Now with the fridge under the window. The spot you were thinking about putting the fridge in the U of the outdoor kitchen could be a door. Think bottom of a dutch door, the style with a shelf at the top of it. Could be made to look seamless or invisible. It could keeps you from walking around and a clean look from the parking area. Oh wait the gas line.... Trench and tile floor? Just ideas....
I've already been thinking about a table for the pass through. As for the other end, I need a solid cabinet to run gas lines and electric inside.
You might want to also consider that you're gonna be bringing food/ingredients from inside the house. Maybe have the entire thing be a set of parallel lines, rather than a more closed shape. This way you can go straight from the front door around the corner into the prep area.
Having it open also lets you get access from both sides depending on what you've got planned for the future.
That does make it a bit challenging to get the gas line over to the far side, but I'm sure you can think of something for that.
Agree. It will limit wasted undercabinet corner space and create easy access for the hosts from both directions
Don't forget I have to run gas and electric lines to both sides. I need one solid end.
I agree. Best keep the cooking area away from that wall and beautiful windows. Grease is a tough thing to clean.
Very true
Andrew call me I've done a few outdoor kitchens and several restaurant kitchens
Andrew even the fish have stopped biting, really frustrating!
They make a tabletop black stone that would be easier to implement.
100% under bar lighting
I was at a tile shop a couple weeks ago and they had some amazing looking 2 foot by 4 foot porcelain tiles. My first thought when I saw them was that they would be awesome for a countertop. You get the ease of working with tile but you don't have many of the grout joints that typically make tile countertops a pain, and porcelain wouldn't have a problem with stains or cleanup. You're probably not going to find anything like that at Lowes but an actual tile place should have them.
I'm looking at 12x24 tiles, but if I can find 2x4s for a reasonable price, I'd jump on it.
@@TKCL The grease will get in the grout no matter how well you seal it. Be sure to use black grout which will help hide everything. I do like the 12 x 24 option.
@@TKCL The ones I saw were supposed to be floor tiles but no reason they couldn't go on a counter
I am thinking black grout
I would recommend not using one stick of wood out there if at all possible. The upkeep and longevity are just deal breakers. I can see framing the structure with steel studs and then using hardi product as a cover and putting a good coat of paint, if thats your thing. But I would not use anything thats wood, particle board, osb, pressboard, etc. Its just not worth it. PLUS, you need to have non-combustibles built around the fire-breathing appliances. Definitely keep the cooktop away from the house!
I'd move the fridge to the end of the U furthest away from the house and have it pointing toward the shop. Imagine cooking, someone wants a drink, and your hands are full and your also in the way.. It would make for easy access for the guests and the cook. Countertops - No tile, check out Stone Coat Countertops on TH-cam.
That end catches very hot afternoon sun. The refrigerator isn't necessarily for guests, it's for Tiffany and I. Every cookout we go to with friends we all bring our own coolers.
I think I elevate that refrigerator that they would be easier at low than unloading just as suggestion
Far as a fan, how about a fan or fans used to cool amplifiers?
Far as the grill insert, you could measure it out but keep it removable for when it is able to be filled when money allows. Meanwhile the space is useable as a base cabinet or shelving.
If you know anyone who is in HVAC, maybe horse trade a fire ring for a overhead exhaust with a rewired blower fan from a system,pending time money and so forth.
Spitballing idea's.
My vote is to first talk to the (and/or any and all similar) folks you got your super duper commercial sink from. for a prep table or two you could maybe cut up or something.
Unfortunately a lot of restaurants went out of business during lockdown and as you know you can't beat used stainless steel commercial grade quality gear for value. You often say what a great deal you got on your sink so try that same route again.
Used commercial is far better than new consumer imho
also check with the guys you got your kitchen granite counter tops from for scrap pieces you may piece together in a Mosaic pattern or something as seams don't matter outside
or you could use marine-grade finishes like fiberglass gel coat or something for a countertop or even Teakwood meant for boat decks as a countertop you don't need much
think outside the box
that stuff would last forever.
Food for thought,
Good luck!
I have an outdoor Sun Brite television love it. 👍🏾🙏🏾🍺🎣😷🇺🇸
just gotta say that while it may look a little better to under mounting that mini-fridge, it is going to render the bottom 2-3 shelves virtually inaccessible without crawling around on the ground. if it were me I would build something like a bar back kinda thing that would frame in the TV maybe a few shelves to hold your bottles of liquor and then put that mini-fridge on top of the counter. would give you a ton more under counter storage and would be much more convenient to reach beverages on all the shelves. The bar-back style would look decent too if done nicely and dont think would be too expensive.
No tile, I would put wood up temporarily, and save for the stainless steel, you would really love it!! Good things come to those who wait and you seem to me a guy, who knows what he wants!!! Haha 😄 plus it's so nice for clean up.
You may consider a komando style grill on the end instead of a gas grill. I wouldn't live with out 1 and I got a traeger and a blackstone to but I couldnt live without my big green egg.
You want to build out to the post otherwise the walkway will be too narrow and a huge trip hazard. Far better to use the extensive space (10/12 feet?) past that as a much safer walkway and easier for everyone to get to and from their stool. It'll also give you far more counter space for people to spread out and enjoy themselves.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
@@TKCL Ah...but, you could install a bamboo roll up wall to prevent rain, install Formica along that side, cover a wood surface during rains..you likely aren't going to use the outdoor area during a wind driven rain storm....Looking forward to seeing your idea come to life.
It was more for the fact I didn't want the kitchen and appliances getting wet.
whrer i live used stainless steel counter/tables (the kind they got in industrial kitchens or restaurants or hotels ext.) are pretty cheap...maybe that would be a good option. at least for part of the kitchen
Only tying I see is the height of the frig. I would build it in as high as possible. Lots of tile to choose from. Just maybe a small grout line it would be hard to clean.
Mini fridge needs to be up higher. Constantly bending over to get a drink, or see what I want to drink will get old after a while.
I would go to the post. I would also put the griddle and cook top across the side from house to post instead of where people will be sitting. It’s already 100 degrees. The griddle and cook top may make it too hot to sit at the bar.
Epoxy from stone coat counter would be a great idea
Stainless/metal countertops sound nice but imagine putting your hand on it in this heat! I’m in New Orleans and my door knob is almost too hot to touch right now.
Haha I reread that, not 33" deep I meant a 33" wide deep sink! Silly me!
You could do your Blackstone and cook top to the left of the refrigerator and that way when you're sitting at the bar top you want get so hot. Like between the box and the house if that makes sense!
Just a suggestion- Maybe lay it out in cardboard, then get both of you "behind the counter" working near each other to make sure you have enough room for more than one person working at a time?
imho the drink fridge should be as far out of the kitchen as is feasible, i.e. keep wet people in the pool from needing to run through the kitchen area to get drinks. If someone is cooking or preparing food they're either going to need to stop what they're doing to play bartender or get wet as folks bump by. Just a thought.
So the refrigerator is not necessarily for guests, it's for Tiffany and I. Everyone I know brings their own cooler to cookouts.
@@TKCL lol my wife would be the primary culprit soaking wet and dripping and bumping past me while I'm trying to cook... : D as long as it crossed your mind. Cheers!
We've decided to move it, vaild points.
think about a dishwasher next to the house at your sink, like a glass washer they have at the choke and pukes?
The fridge review was helpful
Might look at a weathered gray wood look tile for the tops.
Run it to the pole. More room would be nicer in hot summer.
Speaking from experience.. go bigger now while you have the chance.. in terms of depth. I'd go out to that post. You'll never regret have the space for a couple of people to easily move around, and get that cooktop out on the side, leaving the sink in the back, and bar/eating area out front.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
Instead of tiles use stone pavers
Welcome to normal Tennessee Summer weather, Andrew. We typically have 115-degree heat index in July & August with only 100-degree in June.
Hot in West Tennessee now.
104 actual temp here today
Ugh, that sounds miserable.
You still need a Masterbuilt Gravity Series 560 Digital Charcoal Grill + Smoker
You buying 😀
I would do stone for my counter top
RW Flame sounds like amazing products. Are they USA Only?
No they are over seas I believe.
I know you didn't mentioned the rain in the video, and I know your worried about how far that goes in. My thoughts are to keep the cabinets where you are planning them, but to extend the countertop out to almost the post, that way the barstools have somewhere to sit. I'm also thinking that you have the wrong end of the cabinets open. I would have the end closest to the back door open.
Safety!!!!! I haven't heard you mention much about safety!!! With the propane lines, I'd would put in a kill switch/button to quickly turn off the propane lines and might want to think of where the extra large fire extinguisher is going to be placed while you're thinking of the set up!!!!
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
Can't wait to see it all come together! Personally I would bring it on out to that pole though. Having that small gap is only going to get annoying and interrupt the flow. Plus a little more wiggle room in the kitchen area is always better!! With multiple people around for get togethers you don't need folks bumping the cook! Just a thought!
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
Looks to be OK in hot weather how about in colder weather...gets to near freezing at night.
No issues on many 20 degree nights here. We don't get much colder.
38*f or over is considered as heading towards spoilage.
I personally would set it at 35*f that gives you the 3*f plus or minus needed.
Thanks for Sharing, have a blessed day!!...
For drinks I have no concern, this was 36 in the bottom when set to 40 degrees. That's a great temperature for drinks, although I prefer a little ice in some beverages 🍻
Rather than T1-11 why not use the same siding?
Make sure that your countertop does not impact the view from your beautiful windows.
I've kicked around using the hardi siding.
Great project coming..I noticed that Tiffany is already using the window as a pass through, make a smaller counter (under the window) and use the lower part for a trash container.
You are correct, I've already been measuring and designing a shelf for that window.
Hi, Andrew! I am excited to see your outdoor kitchen as you build it. You and Tiffany are very creative.
Thank you
Try integrating your design of your bar stools with your build. I wouldn’t put a stove under your TV. Not only the heat but the grease doesn’t work with electric.
I agree
Curious about the fan you ordered...can you share the link?
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Hey Andrew, I've started framing out my outdoor kitchen, really excited! But I've been researching refrigerators and have been worried about getting one that is not outdoor rated, which this one is not. But the outdoor ones are just ridiculously expensive. Just curious how has it held up? I really like the look of it but just scared to buy it. Thanks!
Zero issues, the front glass does sweat on humid days. That's it!
Have you thought about just a cutout for the blackstone versus permanent install. Would allow you to replace it, clean/service it with a lot of ease.
Good thought, I'll have to think about how that looks aesthetically.
what fridge fan are you useing for inside the fridge circulation? thanks
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Your getting alot of input (as expected). My "2 cents" is the countertops and the man-made Quartz style will give you the "bang for your buck" long term. Ease of maintenance, functionality, colors/styles and reasonable cost. My last remodel for our kitchen (inside) turned out great, using it. Also having a concern with putting the mini-frig down low. Consider elevating to make ease of access better. Bending over to get stuff out is OK for now but again "long-term" having it higher makes it easier to see in and access later. Keep up the video's.. Loving them.
I priced the Corian and it would cost me in tops what I plant to spend on this entire build.
👍🏻, I would take it to the post
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
@@TKCL The way I figure it, the man or woman writing the check for it, their vote is the only one that counts,😀. Good to think about it from every angle, I’m sure it will look good when you get done. Good Luck with it!
Is that frig manufactured for outdoor use? Im looking and want something that can handle the outdoor environment.
I don't see it in the specs, but I told the manufacturer that was my intention for it.
This might have been brought up, but have you considered using Corian solid surface countertops? They're fairly inexpensive, moisture resistant, used as shower walls often, low maintenance. Their downside is they are softer than quartz and can scratch/burn easily from hot pots and pans.
Yeah I priced them, not inexpensive, actually more expensive than granite. To do my entire outdoor kitchen would cost in countertops what I plan to spend on the entire build.
Quick suggestion-add some 2” foam board insulation to the side and especially the top of that little fridge. Using outside will wear that thing out and you’ll be amazed how much it helps.-Van camper’s hack. The trim board on your cabinet should hide the ugly.
The shell is designed to shed heat, so insulation would actually hurt it
Andrew I'm 69 years old and could care less what people think of me, I guess that comes with age, I sure enjoy you and your videos, hang true to your convictions!
Oh I will, but I do appreciate feedback and new ideas.
Formica Bar top ? Might chip to easy . Bar tops are always wood it seems . No ideas just to sleepy to think after a 102 day at work in a metal building with no ac just big fans . Drained and going to bed. 👍🏼
I understand how you feel
You need to have some kind of protective flooring behind the bar. You don't want to spill grease on the concrete.
I'm going to put down big rubber mats. It will help the back too.
I would not put any cooking surfaces against the house. I would suspect over time there would be smoke/grease stains on the house, as well as in the TV.
I agree
I think you need a fold-up counter walk-through, or you're going to Hate walking around the seating area to get back to the kitchen.
Not sure you even want closed cupboards outside in the humidity. A tote in the pantry with outside dishes & such keeps out mold & critters. You'll pr'bly have food & dishes on folding tables during party. Open shelves hold totes on cooking side during party, it all goes back to pantry afterwards. Hose it all down afterwards, no place for critters to make homes in warm, dark places.
I ha e to run electrical and gas lines through the cabinets, it can't be open on both ends.
I was just thinking about ur outside... what if u were to look into "stone coat countertops" there youtube Chanel is pretty good might even give u some good ideas.. can't hurt to check him out... plus it's all American
I have watched a lot of their stuff, but no good information on outside countertops. They always cover mdf because it's flat and smooth. That's the worst wood possible for outside.
Stainless is the way to go. That allows you to use food service-grade sanitizer, very cheap at Sam's Club, and literally clean it to NSF standards exactly like a restaurant. But stainless is expensive. I don't even want to look. Tile sounds like a good approach if you can get the grout sealed. Junk and germs will get into any crevice and this is going to be outdoors with dust and blown rain, probably curious animals walking on it. It needs to be something you can quickly and easily sanitize whenever you need to. All of this you already know. Thanks so much for sharing your thought processes as you go. Many people just do it and show it but never explain why or why not. This is one huge reason your videos are so awesome. No matter what it is you are doing, you always share the why.
Thank you for watching and the feedback
Andrew
a friend of mine is selling something you might be interested in. it is in Okeechobee Florida. How can I e-mail you the details. it is a John Deer Auger with a 3 point hook up.
I already own a auger, appreciate you thinking about me.
How do you keep the fridge or drinks from freezing up in the winter? I'm putting one outside and worried about this
It's Florida, I haven't experienced a problem yet with a few 20 degree nights.
Hey Andrew with your bear issue will they try to break into the fridge for the foam insulation that keeps the fridge cold.
I've never seen one in the yard.
I would want some counter space between Blackstone and cooktop, maybe 24" or so.
I do plan to have some gap
I'm a chef and working in a 3' wide space is impossible with 2 people so i would consider about a 5' wide space. As far as your counter tops go consider a butcher block style. It's something you can build yourself. I would also consider tile on the floor behind the space if you drop or spill anything it's much easier to clean then concrete.
I was going to put down rubber floor mats, should help my back.
Look at z counterforms I did it and loved it at my old house. Plan on doing it again for my new house
Also you need big sink I had one built in that was a 3 deep restaurant sink and always used two of them.
I would think a resin counter top would look great. Use the colors of your house (black, gray, white, maybe even green) and swirl them into a unique one of a kind counter top matched to your house. You could even make some kellys country life items with your new setup and put them in the counter top to be permanent. Just a suggestion. Geeat channel.
Thank you for the feedback
I've had tile counter tops, but they were poorly done with 1/4 grout lines. It was terrible to keep clean. If you can do it with no grout lines, I think it'll be fine.
I do want small lines and darker colored grout.
I would say keep cooking away from the house. One, food and grease stains could ruin the siding. Two, if you are trying to entertain, your back could be towards everyone for a bit.
Tiles could be good but go with a large tile to cut down on grout joints.
Mini fridge should be closer to the end, towards the window. Again if you are entertaining you could have people constantly walking behind you while cooking opening yourself up for accidents.
Good tips
I suggest adding a propane hookup on the end side of the built-in blackstone to allow additional hookups for deep fryer etc...
I agree and do plan on doing that
How about decorative perforated metal for the front of the outdoor kitchen. Could be painted any color (black to match trusses), would look neat and allow for ventilation. My other thought would be durock which could also be painted. The blackstone is on wheels correct? If you removed the side table wings, couldn't you just build a slot in the counter to roll it into and out of if needed. Just like the range inside the house. Lots of ideas in the comments. Can't wait for the build.
You could build a slot, I'm kicking around that idea.
I would put the fridge next to the window so that you're not playing bartender and cook at the same time. if it's accessible it can be more self-serv. not that there's anything wrong in playing bartender but someone will want a drink at the most inopportune time while you're cooking. Bigger sink also sounds like a good idea. In the not budget friendly category, a stove hood over the cooktop and grill. Looking forward to the build videos.
That refrigerator isn't intended for guests, all of our friends always bring their own coolers.
I see a lot reversing the U, i don’t think you can though with the beautiful windows and where your hookups are.
You are exactly right, people are not seeing that.
Hope this isn't a repeat comment but I couldn't scroll through 200 comments to see. I would only use drawers for your storage even if you make them really deep and wide to hold your pots. Drawers are way better than shelves and won't cost too much more when you consider the convenience. I was also gonna recommend the bigger sink and taller faucet as well as the acrylic coated countertops as I saw mentioned below. Can't wait to watch all the build videos.
Thank you
Ok when I was growing up we had Butcher block counter by the sink so that we could clean and cut, I would suggest that you put the TV on a swivel more in the corner not above the sink area or the cooking area just because the cooking area the steam and the heat like you talked about, and for the sink water splashing up but the biggest thing is if someone’s watching a game and your heads are in the way that could be a really big distraction so I would suggest a swivel for the TV. And if you put a bar area above the Blackstone while you’re cooking that heat and steam is going to go up into their faces as they’re sitting there. What ever you choose is going to be wonderful:) tfs stay safe and God Bless:)
Very valid points, hard to find a perfect solution.
Definitely cook away from the house. Oil, smoke and heat will do a number on the house over time. A large drawer or 2 under the blackstone for all her griddle accessories. If you run into an area you need to fill 6-8 inches, a sheet pan cabinet works well.
I am definitely putting drawers
Wouldn't recommend tile countertops. We have them in the kitchen and are an utter pain to clean. Solid surface for sure. If you want to be fancy put a pot filler by the stovetop.
Solid surface is way out of my budget
I dont like ceramic tile for a counter top. Grout just looks bad in a short time. Dont know what kind of tile you are looking for but I would use the biggest size so you have the least amount of grout line. Maybe some big floor tiles.
Looking at 12x24 dark tile and very dark grout so you don't see stains.
Use the same siding and paint scheme on the bar that you use on the house. It will make it look very integrated. Second, I do recommend the concrete pour in place countertops which can be done as a one man show. I hear you on the fear of food and other stains, but consider a very dark concrete dye to hide any future stains. Take a look at Modustrial Maker on youtube. As for the gas you may want to consider a timed shutoff valve, some insurance companies require them for outdoor kitchens.
Thank you for the information
From the way I understand it, the outdoor kitchen is u shaped with the end blocking exit to the door around the corner. I would make the end a flip up counter top so one of you can exit to get to the inside kitchen without bumping into the person cooking.
I had tile countertop and hated it - pain in the butt to clean. Anything with groves (like grout lines) is a no.
What about harvesting trees for countertops and topping w epoxy? Or creating butcher block counter tops?
I need one end enclosed to run gas and electric. Im not convinced a wood look fits the feel of the porch.
Why not make a lifted counter top for your prep area near the fridge with a hinge at the end of the house so you don't have to walk all the way around from the door when you're carrying things? BTW I watch all the time and really like how yall lifestyle. Looking forward to doing something similar for me and my girl.
Don't forget I'm running power and gas lines through that end, so it can't be open. Thanks for watching
If you close in that end of the outdoor kitchen and need something from inside, you have doubled the distance that you will have to walk and that might be a problem if you need something in a hurry.
For safety sake, you might want to go with a deeper bar top. You don't want someone to be able to reach across the bar/counter top and be able to reach the cook top
The little bit of walking does not bother me. Won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
Just a suggestion. What if you only went out about 6 feet from the corner of the house and then have a top that folds up allowing entry into the cooking area. That way you wouldn't have to walk all the way around the cabinet and then come back.
I need to run gas lines and electric in the space.
Andrew, cut down some horse stall mats and use that a flooring in your new outdoor kitchen.
Bingo! You nailed it! That's exactly what I have been planning on doing