9:00 "The Greatest Technician That's Ever Lived" Seriously, good video man, thank you for encouraging people to price things fairly on eBay. It's honest people like you that break the cycles of inflated scalper prices. I'm pressing all the thumbs.
Jay, absolutely make more content like this. For the average PC builder this is far more relevant than a completely new build. Even when building a new platform I always reuse something such as the case, drives etc.
@@MrMOGHammer My power supply I believe dates back to 2011. It's still running strong powering my Ryzen 5700X and RTX 2080 Super. I'll need to retire it when I platform upgrade again, but for now I can't believe it's still working flawlessly.
I agree. I believe in building a new PC with an intended rebuild at year 3 to squeeze max value out of my rig; so yeah learning to upgrade is next level for builders...
This was an awesome video. Kinda like watching a car restoration/upgrade show. I did something like this with my old Intel 4th Gen PC I keep in the living room. I think I spent like 250 total between a used CPU and RAM which were both big upgrades, and then a new 2tb nvme from Amazon as well. It was really fun tinkering with it and I very often use it when I don't want to be stuck in the office.
Just bought a used 5600x and 6750XT for myself.. And before that a had a 2nd hand r9 390x, and before that dual r9 280x, and pretty much anything anything before that was 2nd hand.
Just got a 4060 (believe it's only $40 more than the used 3060 one you bought but new) and about to install a 7800x3d CPU. My computer was a potato so will be interesting what the new CPU can do to improve performance.
The reason they are selling for that price is it is one of the only super small 3060's you can find. People are using them in tiny pc's which is where the demand for them comes from.
Small eBay tip for checking pricing trends: if you select "Advanced" to the right of the search bar, you can select "Completed Items" and it will show you all the expired/sold listings for a particular item. That way, you can see the selling/pricing history to get a better idea of an item's actual sold worth. The rtx 3060 is selling for around $200-230, depending on the size (believe it or not, the smaller ones tend to be more expensive, because that's what people use to upgrade SFF and other weird proprietary OEM builds), so that 3060 would have definitely sold immediately. Edit: Also note when selling on eBay, eBay takes about 10% off your selling price, so your actual net sales would've been closer to $265. Still, $130 for double performance is a damn good deal.
@@xBINARYGODx and aren't they taking Federal income tax out now? I know they were planning on a 19% default, then delayed it, but were supposed to have started it the beginning of this year (it's been a LONG while since I've sold on Ebay).
I have watched your content for a LONG time, and it has helped me in my PC builds over time to the fullest. I use your recommendations as a guide to buying parts, You have helped in programs to help keep the cooling temps in my case down, and have helped in the building of my computers for many years now. keep up the good work. I love this content due to the fact many of us do not have the funds to buy the latest and greatest parts on the market. so again thank you, you have saved me from buying parts that might have been faulty. So again thank you. if I have a problem I always go back to one of your videos and I can usually find the fix for that problem, so again you have helped me and saved me a TON of money. keep up the good work and don't listen to any haters, I love watching this content, So thank you again, and have a wonderful life
I think this is a great series because it helps demonstrate the value of older components. It also encourages problem solving and reducing e waste. You don’t need all the newest components to play games or run a PC. Showing the benchmarking is good too, because it demonstrates performance improvements, which validates the choices made.
Especially in this format, showing the results relative to the previous components installed, rather than on the test bench with other top of the range parts.
I think you should absolutely do more of these. I think it's interesting to see these upgrade pathways played out with tangible, tested results and a realistic take on how much it would cost. For most people trying to upgrade their system it's a hot mess of options and variables out there. It's hard to know what a person should even try to upgrade given the janky disparity between hardware generations.
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue If its a modern game.... it wont run. There's a lot of tech on newer games that dont exist on legacy hardware. Even now, if you dont have a 20-series GPU (or AMD equivalent) that supports mesh shaders - that 10-series GPU will simply not run a game that uses mesh shaders as more and more games start using it
This would definitely be a series I would be very interested in watching. The "over time" being very relevant to current pressures, a lot of my friends just can't afford much currently but are stuck in dead end sandbridge era stuff, so this is very helpful..
JayZ, this panel you took out on 10:45 to install 120mm fan has removable square plates, just remove them and you will have a specialized bracket for 120mm fan, because it is what it for.
I think these videos are so much better for the average entry-level user, as they can guide them into the "enthusiast" level much smoother than the "look at the shiny brand new thing that just came out." We all like that content as well, but this right here, this is gold. I would have killed to find this sort of information and ideas when I first got into PC's not too long ago. It's not just cost that is a barrier for entry into PC gaming, it's knowledge. And a lot of users will simply champion whatever they have in their system, because that's what they have direct experience with (+xp to them for that) but not necessarily always guide others into newer/better stuff. This is Gold, guys. Love it. 💯
Usually OEM pc's will have thier windows license tied to the motherboard. You can change anything you want, but as long as you keep the motherboard, windows will remain activated.
You can also transfer the key if you change the motherboard. Just record the key and bitlocker info before and call Microsoft to activate it on the new one
@@AstraeaAurorawhich is illegal in some countries. so, if you bought a license, in some countries you can use it on whatever pc you want and MS can't do shit about it
I like these videos. Recently my step son wanted to build a PC for a close friend of his. So I donated my 2070Super that’s been on the shelf for a while. He took it to micro center and they used it to build a balanced machine that’s a HUGE improvement over what he was using.
2070 Super on the shelf for awhile? How many overpriced nonsensical upgrade paths you running? Even top line games haven't outrun that card. 4k is not the standard it's the enthusiast path and often done in all the wrongs ways. 98% of gamers are using 1080 or 2k, not even sane that 4000 series ever sold a unit as they offer nothing but a lighter wallet. Pushing 300fps on a screen that only shows 144 maybe 200 isn't not sane or practical.
@@animalyze7120 I’m running “nonsensical” upgrades for my CAD and video software that are VERY sensible. How about your figure out another way to control your jealousy, huh? There’s more to PCs than just gaming.
@@benkonczal4584 haters gonna hate I run a ASRock white taichi 7900 XTX with a 7800X3D on a X670E Steel dragon with corsair parts and a WD 4tb SSD with two 8tb hdd for video cameras. I wanna get into cad and other fun stuff this winter after i'm done upgrading to 9000 series cpu and hand me downing my cpu to my old lady. Her setup is semi jank with 7600X, ASRock PG A770 (very impressed with the A770 reviews sh!t on it too much imo.) On a B650E PG ITX. We both run cheap 32gb (2x16) team group cl30 6000 megatransfer ram though and run any game well on out monitors. I got a sweet deal on a 2k 180hz display for her as well $160 cdn
Absolutely EXCELLENT video Jay. Please do more of these upgrade videos as these are much more interesting than other reviewers just discussing new and usually, overpriced PC components.
I bought that exact same Omen from BestBuy in 2020 going from Xbox to PC. It didn't take me long to gut it, upgrade it, to only sell it to build my own. Now I'm rocking the 14700 & 4070S. That PC ignited my passion again. Love the videos, Jay! Keep em coming!
I did a similar move for my wife 2 months ago. Bought a cheap RX 6600 and sold/replaced a GTX 1060 3GB, as she was starting to tun into issues with her games, mostly Baldur's Gate. Net cost was $80 CAD ($55-60 USD) and it near tripled her performance
Before these grarphics card price inflations I used to replace my graphics card every year and it was a net $200 per year to get the highest end gpu every year. Pretty affordable. I'm not sure if this works anymore since the prices are so high and drop pretty hard. Although I bought ha 3090 and recently sold it for $200 more.
@@trsskater It works, but on average costs 500$, here is what you do, say you have 4090? Nvidia has their announcements in August and cards come 2-3 months later, so the moment they announce it you sell yours [keep some cheap 4060/4070 as backup card, hell when i sold 1080Ti to get 2080Ti i used 1030lol and was fine for windows]. The best if you keep the OG box and if it comes with any accessories, you never use them, keep them new like that 12pin cable, just buy one online, its good for the sale when its all look like new in a box [more money for you]
I recently got my first pc from Best Buy. It was an open box 3060 HP Omen 40L that i snagged for 600! So happy with my purchase. Looking to upgrade soon.
BUT I LOVE to pick new parts off the shelf! Its so heckin' satisfying and fun. If I could I would build a new one every year. But hey that rig u got there looks like a descent machine really. Lmfao, I'm only 1:34 into it, but I got excited bout building.
Love the budget build videos recently. It's fun making bawl's out systems, but it's as much fun and more practical to see lower cost reviews and build/upgrade ideas.
Loving these videos, Jay! Building a PC from scratch is always fun, but overcoming the challenges that come with upgrading OEM systems is so much more satisfying!
Thanks, Jay. Fascinating video. 👍👍. My last 2 GPUs have been used. I love reusing parts. Until a few months ago, I used a Q6600 system as a media centre for streaming on my TV in the living room. The CPU and motherboard wouldn't die! I recently upgraded this PC to a 6th gen i7 system and splurged on a new Corsair 5000D Air flow case (total overkill- but pretty nice looking). I am using some parts from the old system, including a GTX 750, SSD and HDD; the rest of the parts I had lying around from other builds. It runs Windows 11 and is really perfect for streaming music and video. I have a feeling that the GPU is the next thing to die. In a way, I am looking forward to the hunt for a used one. Thanks again for showing that you don't need new hardware all the time and with some clever upgrades, you can significantly boost the overall performance of your current setup.
I am SO happy you did this video!!! I've been "trading up" on PC components for quite some time. Started out with an Intel 4th Gen off-lease pre-built in 2016 and in December just finished a 9th Gen 9900K custom system for a grand total of about $300 (net) all by buying and selling parts to get to where I am now. It can be done. It takes time and patience. This was an awesome video. Well done as always Jay! You always seem to be right on top of things!
Thought occurred to me. We really are not able to see the actual upgrade of just the much cheaper cooling solution. For future videos. It would be good to compare the actual upgrades of just the less expensive bits. Maybe going from 8 to 16 gigs ram, maybe just the cooler, other things that people can do before they're trying to find a graphics card that's $300 up front.
I love that someone is showing how it is possible to cobble together a decent gaming computer on a budget, but something you might have overlooked is Ebay's fees. Just because you listed the parts for what you did does not mean you will end up with that in hand at the end. I usually subtract 20% for a ballpark of how much you might end up with.
well it also shows the 5700g is the better choice even if you struggle on it's builtin igpu till you can afford a gpu because the cpu kicks ass as a cpu alone
Low end and mid end builds are great idea to cover, not many people do, yet its obviously the most realistic option for a lot of people. Good work team.
20:39 i think so too. everyone can say buy the best you can afford but what actually is "the best" not only depends on the usage, but the approach you want to use aswell
"The best you can afford" sounds like terrible advice. XD Who told you that? Things need to be catered to what you plan to use your PC for. "The best" would not fit most users.
YES! This is nearly exactly what I suggested you do with this system. I don't know if you even saw my comment in the sea of others, but thank you for content like this that will help countless budget gamers for years to come. Please keep videos like this coming. Showing regular ppl how easy it is to bargain hunt and make major upgrades for not a lot of money is exactly what I hoped you would do.
Thank you guys for videos like this! I mostly watch because how much fun PC building is, so imo there's no need for the most expensive components (even if that stuff is fun to watch to sometimes). I'm planning a build for my brother with some of my old parts and this video gave me some inspiration and ideas so thank you!
I wish there were more relatable videos on TH-cam like this. This is great for most of us who are just scraping by and hustling for small but very welocome gains. I hope you keep doing some videos like this, they're very helpful and encouraging.
I am not even looking for an upgrade but this was so fun to watch. Just from an engineering standpoint, sometimes it's cool to see how you can play around with different options/parameters and get the most bang for your buck. Great Video Jay!
This video is spot on. Just realized that after having my pc starting to make random cut outs after years without maintenance, that my components is getting older. Started to make me wonder which parts is "salvageable" and only needs a brush up and which is the ones that I should replace. Great vid! - Keep them coming :D
Just wanted to add on to everyone else's sentiment that more videos like this would be awesome! Scrappy, budget-friendly, and approachable content while still focusing on squeezing out as much performance as possible.
Keep stuff like this up, sir. You’ve got a great presentation style and I know these videos help people more than you may realize. While I’ve been bitten by the ITX MINI-PC bug, your “how to build a computer” video is what helped me see that I really could build my own. Great stuff! Keep up the good work!
This is the kind of videos we need more of TBH. And especially showing gaming benchmarks to prove that you dont need to spend a lot of money for a gaming rig. Especially helpful for people on an extreme budget. I've always bought high-end parts, because I can afford it, however after watching LTT and now Jay do these videos - I am motivated to do such a build myself.
I like these upgrade videos as well. This is real world, real life videos that cater to people who don't want nor don't need a new computer but want to give a second life to a system on a budget. Kudos to you!
Hi Jay and team. Love these videos that you have been posting to the masses. I am happy that you remember where your main group of viewers probably have for their daily driver as their systems. Much respect! 🙂
Vids like these are very valuable, showing logical steps for upgrading without breaking bank. About 3 weeks ago I upgraded my father's cpu and motherboard, but everything else was reused; ddr4 sticks, hdds, nmve storage, gpu and fans :) All in all it cost only about 330 euros to upgrade Tip: see if you can easily detach the back panel of a prebuild; the one from my father's case wouldn't budge and it made rerouting cables a nightmare
this little series was awesome, much more informative for the average joe who doesn't have 2-3 grand to blow on a high end PC, and more information on how to deal shop a little bit as well when it comes to second hand purchasing too. On behalf of everyone, Thanks Jay!
Definitely do more of this kind of content. It'll help a lot of people getting into PC gaming. It would also help showing the "issues" these machines can have in the bios screens as well.
You guys should do a budget build battle. Everyone gets $800 and can spend it anyway they like, new, used or a mix of parts. Or you could do a blind taste test. Build a cheap, mid range and high end system, put them behind a curtain and then everyone uses each one to play a couple different games. Not only would it be entertaining to have all of you guys in some videos but maybe it could give people a better understanding of where they may want to sacrifice when building on a budget. I kind of experience this every couple years. When I upgrade, it means upgrades for my two boys. I already build on a budget, usually aiming around the mid range of things. My youngest is still on the FX-8350 and an RX480. My oldest is on a Ryzen 3600 and RX580. So it's definitely time to start looking at PC parts again.
I absolutely think we need more of this series. I have also struggled with figuring out where to upgrade my gaming pc in a meaningful way without spending a ton of money on stuff.
Great video, im in a prosess of upgrading my own system and getting shocked by the prices in norway right now. So found this "series" real interesseting, keep it up! :)
One of the best parts about starting out building PCs is that you can buy someone's old build and then upgrade it later on. You just have to do a little bit of research and buy the right build that has an upgrade path. Used hardware is perfectly fine, and you can get a lot for your money going on the used market. Videos like this are awesome, because it shows you don't need the latest and greatest to have a great gaming PC.
2080 super was a good call, glad to see good tips like this 👌 well done Jay, I'd honestly love to see more content like this. Edit: I believe the "bigger number better" is part of the reason for the 3060 selling at a higher price. You are the only person I've seen suggest the 2080 super over the 3060. Most suggested "budget" builds I have seen either use the 6600/6600xt or 3060
You are right, Jay. This was fun. I'd much rather content like this over monitor or case unboxings. Too many channels do that already. As a new hardware buyer, I learnt so much about the secondhand market from this video, and may consider that as an option moving forward. Thanks guys!
These videos are great! Especially for new pc builders or even those that don't know a whole lot about what to look for. So what a great way to spotlight the used market. I have personally only ever built with brand new parts but maybe when I need an upgrade I will use the used market and give new purpose to some "old" hardware.
These are my favorite kind of tech video aside from retro content... showcasing how to build a balanced system that's good for most things. Definitely keep this series going. Is it nice seeing all the new shiny? Sure. Is it nice having all the new shiny? Definitely. But most of us are not doing high-end workstation/server computing at home, or gaming on multiple 4k monitors. Even the Steam Hardware Survey still lists the GTX 1650 as the second-most popular graphics card.
Definitely continue with this “series” of getting budget used pcs and upgrading them. Definitely enjoy watching yall compare what you can get for the old parts vs how much the news one cost.
I really dig this upgrade-over-time layout. This is the exact same that I did with my ancient i5-760 over a 10 year period. Upgraded to SATA SSDs over time, upgraded the graphics card numerous times, sold old parts as they were swapped, etc. Ended up spending about $300 net in upgrades over 10 years by selling old parts.
Yes Jay definitely do more of these types of vids, people are hurting economy wise so these videos are real help for cash strapped families and this topic shows another way instead of debt for them.
please do upgrade vids, that was my last ten yrs. getting ready to do my first build ever and seeing you work though these builds really helps me understand with what I already know
Yeh Jay, more of things like this. You look as though your health is improving as well. Thank you for all your honest and helpful content. Terry from Australia.
Great video Jay and super interesting. Please do more of this style of content. Not only is it refreshing to see as an enthusiast but it's far more relevant today as prices continue to rise.
Jay, I really enjoyed this video. I've fixed up used (and so-called broken, per Geek Squad) PCs for years, as well as building new systems from scratch. It's a challenge to see if I could bump up additional performance from an older used PC, and pass them on to my sons and nephews. This video showed a cost effective way to 'soup up' a so-so HP Omen to make it a good gamer system. So - yeah, you get my vote for any kind of video like this, 'cause we're all wanting to save some $$ on our builds. A suggestion: many of the OEM/store bought systems have decent components, but have awful cooling. I've modded many older Dells to increase cooling capability, but I'd like to see how you approach resolving cooling problems, like you did in this video. Thanks, and to your good health! 👍👍👍
You have become the "Wheeler Dealer" of PC's. I really like this kind of stuff because the average builder really learns a lot from this. You find out that you don't need top tier hardware to have a good gaming experience. Keep up the good work!
I love these style of video's. I mean personally I'm not learning much news but it's a nice change of pace and it's very useful to show to my tech illiterate friends bc they sometimes question me hunting for bargans and what not
I love these 'upgrade' videos. It shows real world problems (cooler that doesn't cover the IHS, no room for a fan, limited cooler height space...). Maybe you could continue it with this PC. Pretend you've had this one for a year and are looking for an upgrade. Would you do another CPU upgrade? A 3080? Power supply?
This has to be more useful to most viewers than chucking a 4070ti super in EVERYTHING, as a "sensible" alternative to a 4090 for the real people out there.
Definitely cool seeing how others do this. I think this type of series would benefit anyone wanting to learn and see how its done. Great job! Keep up the good work Continue this series sprinkling in the stuff you did before :)
Jay, please continue with updates on these 'moderate PC builds' showing practical and useful upgrades for people who need a good 'everyday' computer without breaking the bank!
I think this concept is great for showing people that aren't so much in the know the kind of thought process that goes into making realistic upgrades to your system. Very useful info.
I love this type of video. Reminds me of when I was in like college and just starting out working and having to come up with creative ways to get it done. So I would love to see this type of video from time to time.
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Seriously, good video man, thank you for encouraging people to price things fairly on eBay. It's honest people like you that break the cycles of inflated scalper prices. I'm pressing all the thumbs.
Hey dood. Love your content and occasionally seeing you in the comments on other channels I like.
Just discovered your channel through shorts the other day, didn't expect to find you in the comments here
LOVE you shorts bro! Thanks for showing your fixes!
Jay, absolutely make more content like this. For the average PC builder this is far more relevant than a completely new build. Even when building a new platform I always reuse something such as the case, drives etc.
Did reuse the case and power supply from a computer built 10 years ago 3770k with 2 GTX 760, now it is ryzen 5800x with RTX 3060 and nvme drives
Same here mate, got a hard drive thats been with me since 2006 😂
@@MrMOGHammer My power supply I believe dates back to 2011. It's still running strong powering my Ryzen 5700X and RTX 2080 Super. I'll need to retire it when I platform upgrade again, but for now I can't believe it's still working flawlessly.
@@thereallanteshjust retired my case and PSU after 10 years and several builds! They can be huge up front costs, but effectively £20 a year..
I'm still using an eleven year old PSU, it has outlasted 5 upgrades, and is the only original part from my first all-new build
These office/OEM PC builds are one of my favorites. Upgrading old(er) systems into more appropriate gaming machines is so satisfying to watch
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the OEM form factor can be very handy, and generally cheaper than a ITX
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I agree. I believe in building a new PC with an intended rebuild at year 3 to squeeze max value out of my rig; so yeah learning to upgrade is next level for builders...
@@temperedglass1130 You're the type of guy to put tempered glass onto a tile floor
This was an awesome video. Kinda like watching a car restoration/upgrade show. I did something like this with my old Intel 4th Gen PC I keep in the living room. I think I spent like 250 total between a used CPU and RAM which were both big upgrades, and then a new 2tb nvme from Amazon as well. It was really fun tinkering with it and I very often use it when I don't want to be stuck in the office.
I bought a used RTX 3070 off ebay for my son for Christmas, and it's been incredible for him. Please continue doing these used hardware videos!
Got my MSI Gaming X 3070 for $260. Awesome GPU!
Just bought a used 5600x and 6750XT for myself.. And before that a had a 2nd hand r9 390x, and before that dual r9 280x, and pretty much anything anything before that was 2nd hand.
Just got a 4060 (believe it's only $40 more than the used 3060 one you bought but new) and about to install a 7800x3d CPU. My computer was a potato so will be interesting what the new CPU can do to improve performance.
@@eldonb5131 You're gonna be on cloud nine with that 7800X3D, best gaming CPU on the market so far.
@@eldonb5131that's a very interesting cpu gpu combo. Do you do some kind of cpu heavy work?
The reason they are selling for that price is it is one of the only super small 3060's you can find. People are using them in tiny pc's which is where the demand for them comes from.
Small eBay tip for checking pricing trends: if you select "Advanced" to the right of the search bar, you can select "Completed Items" and it will show you all the expired/sold listings for a particular item. That way, you can see the selling/pricing history to get a better idea of an item's actual sold worth. The rtx 3060 is selling for around $200-230, depending on the size (believe it or not, the smaller ones tend to be more expensive, because that's what people use to upgrade SFF and other weird proprietary OEM builds), so that 3060 would have definitely sold immediately.
Edit: Also note when selling on eBay, eBay takes about 10% off your selling price, so your actual net sales would've been closer to $265. Still, $130 for double performance is a damn good deal.
Was going to say the same 2 things - completed listings and eBay commission fee.
oh its more than 10%, it's roughly 13.5%
Totaly, only the 'sold' pricing is valid. if somethings listed for $x don't mean squat.
@@xBINARYGODx and aren't they taking Federal income tax out now? I know they were planning on a 19% default, then delayed it, but were supposed to have started it the beginning of this year (it's been a LONG while since I've sold on Ebay).
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I have watched your content for a LONG time, and it has helped me in my PC builds over time to the fullest. I use your recommendations as a guide to buying parts, You have helped in programs to help keep the cooling temps in my case down, and have helped in the building of my computers for many years now. keep up the good work. I love this content due to the fact many of us do not have the funds to buy the latest and greatest parts on the market. so again thank you, you have saved me from buying parts that might have been faulty. So again thank you. if I have a problem I always go back to one of your videos and I can usually find the fix for that problem, so again you have helped me and saved me a TON of money. keep up the good work and don't listen to any haters, I love watching this content, So thank you again, and have a wonderful life
I think this is a great series because it helps demonstrate the value of older components. It also encourages problem solving and reducing e waste. You don’t need all the newest components to play games or run a PC. Showing the benchmarking is good too, because it demonstrates performance improvements, which validates the choices made.
Especially in this format, showing the results relative to the previous components installed, rather than on the test bench with other top of the range parts.
Dude is a dope as human for this video. We hurting and finally, someone hears us. Thank you Jay for being the realest where ever you go
Yes! More of these upgrade path videos.
Agreed. This is really interesting.
I second this. Do the gaming and lower tier comparison video!
I agree but I like the more natural flow of the video instead of forcing it.
I think you should absolutely do more of these. I think it's interesting to see these upgrade pathways played out with tangible, tested results and a realistic take on how much it would cost. For most people trying to upgrade their system it's a hot mess of options and variables out there. It's hard to know what a person should even try to upgrade given the janky disparity between hardware generations.
Would love more of these, love super high end things but nothing is more satisfying than the price to performance of slightly previous gen parts
what happpens if you pput a 90's accellerator card into a modern ryzen pc?🤔🤔
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue If its a modern game.... it wont run. There's a lot of tech on newer games that dont exist on legacy hardware. Even now, if you dont have a 20-series GPU (or AMD equivalent) that supports mesh shaders - that 10-series GPU will simply not run a game that uses mesh shaders as more and more games start using it
You can definitely say that again. It's all about price to performance for the win.
@@RealGreyGhost while laughing reading this still on my gtx 1070 rog strix from dinosaur age :P but thinking about getting rx 6800
@@tommyshoe-star1426 7600XT is a bit faster an $329
This would definitely be a series I would be very interested in watching. The "over time" being very relevant to current pressures, a lot of my friends just can't afford much currently but are stuck in dead end sandbridge era stuff, so this is very helpful..
JayZ, this panel you took out on 10:45 to install 120mm fan has removable square plates, just remove them and you will have a specialized bracket for 120mm fan, because it is what it for.
Black screws with flat heads would have been better too
I think these videos are so much better for the average entry-level user, as they can guide them into the "enthusiast" level much smoother than the "look at the shiny brand new thing that just came out." We all like that content as well, but this right here, this is gold. I would have killed to find this sort of information and ideas when I first got into PC's not too long ago. It's not just cost that is a barrier for entry into PC gaming, it's knowledge. And a lot of users will simply champion whatever they have in their system, because that's what they have direct experience with (+xp to them for that) but not necessarily always guide others into newer/better stuff. This is Gold, guys. Love it. 💯
Usually OEM pc's will have thier windows license tied to the motherboard. You can change anything you want, but as long as you keep the motherboard, windows will remain activated.
You can also transfer the key if you change the motherboard. Just record the key and bitlocker info before and call Microsoft to activate it on the new one
yep. license activation used to be based on a hash of CPU/motherboard/gpu serials, but MS has scaled it back to "new mobo = new PC"
@@AstraeaAuroraworking on atf rules...
@@AstraeaAurorawhich is illegal in some countries. so, if you bought a license, in some countries you can use it on whatever pc you want and MS can't do shit about it
Well, that's only if you need MSWindows...
I like these videos. Recently my step son wanted to build a PC for a close friend of his. So I donated my 2070Super that’s been on the shelf for a while. He took it to micro center and they used it to build a balanced machine that’s a HUGE improvement over what he was using.
Gotta love Micro Center, built my PC with their help in picking components.
2070 Super on the shelf for awhile? How many overpriced nonsensical upgrade paths you running? Even top line games haven't outrun that card. 4k is not the standard it's the enthusiast path and often done in all the wrongs ways. 98% of gamers are using 1080 or 2k, not even sane that 4000 series ever sold a unit as they offer nothing but a lighter wallet. Pushing 300fps on a screen that only shows 144 maybe 200 isn't not sane or practical.
@@animalyze7120 I’m running “nonsensical” upgrades for my CAD and video software that are VERY sensible. How about your figure out another way to control your jealousy, huh? There’s more to PCs than just gaming.
@@benkonczal4584 haters gonna hate I run a ASRock white taichi 7900 XTX with a 7800X3D on a X670E Steel dragon with corsair parts and a WD 4tb SSD with two 8tb hdd for video cameras.
I wanna get into cad and other fun stuff this winter after i'm done upgrading to 9000 series cpu and hand me downing my cpu to my old lady.
Her setup is semi jank with 7600X, ASRock PG A770 (very impressed with the A770 reviews sh!t on it too much imo.) On a B650E PG ITX. We both run cheap 32gb (2x16) team group cl30 6000 megatransfer ram though and run any game well on out monitors. I got a sweet deal on a 2k 180hz display for her as well $160 cdn
Absolutely EXCELLENT video Jay. Please do more of these upgrade videos as these are much more interesting than other reviewers just discussing new and usually, overpriced PC components.
I bought that exact same Omen from BestBuy in 2020 going from Xbox to PC. It didn't take me long to gut it, upgrade it, to only sell it to build my own. Now I'm rocking the 14700 & 4070S. That PC ignited my passion again. Love the videos, Jay! Keep em coming!
I did a similar move for my wife 2 months ago. Bought a cheap RX 6600 and sold/replaced a GTX 1060 3GB, as she was starting to tun into issues with her games, mostly Baldur's Gate. Net cost was $80 CAD ($55-60 USD) and it near tripled her performance
geee, its your wife, get her 4060TI or 4070 Super
Before these grarphics card price inflations I used to replace my graphics card every year and it was a net $200 per year to get the highest end gpu every year. Pretty affordable. I'm not sure if this works anymore since the prices are so high and drop pretty hard. Although I bought ha 3090 and recently sold it for $200 more.
@@NoBodysGamer Send him the money then.
@@trsskater It works, but on average costs 500$, here is what you do, say you have 4090? Nvidia has their announcements in August and cards come 2-3 months later, so the moment they announce it you sell yours [keep some cheap 4060/4070 as backup card, hell when i sold 1080Ti to get 2080Ti i used 1030lol and was fine for windows].
The best if you keep the OG box and if it comes with any accessories, you never use them, keep them new like that 12pin cable, just buy one online, its good for the sale when its all look like new in a box [more money for you]
@@KonglomeratYT He should get a job, its not that expensive, if he lives in the west he shouldn't be that poor by default
I recently got my first pc from Best Buy. It was an open box 3060 HP Omen 40L that i snagged for 600! So happy with my purchase. Looking to upgrade soon.
I love these videos because it's what I did with my first PC, get a decent pre-build and make logical upgrades to it.
BUT I LOVE to pick new parts off the shelf! Its so heckin' satisfying and fun. If I could I would build a new one every year. But hey that rig u got there looks like a descent machine really. Lmfao, I'm only 1:34 into it, but I got excited bout building.
Love the budget build videos recently. It's fun making bawl's out systems, but it's as much fun and more practical to see lower cost reviews and build/upgrade ideas.
Awesome video, Jay! I love the problem solving and using resources on hand to upgrade rather than buying all brand new. Love to see more like this!
Loving these videos, Jay! Building a PC from scratch is always fun, but overcoming the challenges that come with upgrading OEM systems is so much more satisfying!
Thanks, Jay. Fascinating video. 👍👍. My last 2 GPUs have been used. I love reusing parts. Until a few months ago, I used a Q6600 system as a media centre for streaming on my TV in the living room. The CPU and motherboard wouldn't die! I recently upgraded this PC to a 6th gen i7 system and splurged on a new Corsair 5000D Air flow case (total overkill- but pretty nice looking). I am using some parts from the old system, including a GTX 750, SSD and HDD; the rest of the parts I had lying around from other builds. It runs Windows 11 and is really perfect for streaming music and video. I have a feeling that the GPU is the next thing to die. In a way, I am looking forward to the hunt for a used one. Thanks again for showing that you don't need new hardware all the time and with some clever upgrades, you can significantly boost the overall performance of your current setup.
I am SO happy you did this video!!! I've been "trading up" on PC components for quite some time. Started out with an Intel 4th Gen off-lease pre-built in 2016 and in December just finished a 9th Gen 9900K custom system for a grand total of about $300 (net) all by buying and selling parts to get to where I am now. It can be done. It takes time and patience. This was an awesome video. Well done as always Jay! You always seem to be right on top of things!
Thought occurred to me. We really are not able to see the actual upgrade of just the much cheaper cooling solution. For future videos. It would be good to compare the actual upgrades of just the less expensive bits. Maybe going from 8 to 16 gigs ram, maybe just the cooler, other things that people can do before they're trying to find a graphics card that's $300 up front.
This would make a good series
The PC Rehab channel has a series similar to this you should check out
Nice video! I like these practical upgrade/build videos over brand spanking new hardware. Had never seen a low-profile cooler like that before either.
I love that someone is showing how it is possible to cobble together a decent gaming computer on a budget, but something you might have overlooked is Ebay's fees. Just because you listed the parts for what you did does not mean you will end up with that in hand at the end. I usually subtract 20% for a ballpark of how much you might end up with.
well it also shows the 5700g is the better choice even if you struggle on it's builtin igpu till you can afford a gpu because the cpu kicks ass as a cpu alone
Low end and mid end builds are great idea to cover, not many people do, yet its obviously the most realistic option for a lot of people. Good work team.
All the love to you and your crew J and Team. God bless you and yours.
20:39 i think so too. everyone can say buy the best you can afford but what actually is "the best" not only depends on the usage, but the approach you want to use aswell
"The best you can afford" sounds like terrible advice. XD Who told you that? Things need to be catered to what you plan to use your PC for. "The best" would not fit most users.
Please make more videos like this Jay it is very informative and eye opener for beginners! Thank you
YES! This is nearly exactly what I suggested you do with this system. I don't know if you even saw my comment in the sea of others, but thank you for content like this that will help countless budget gamers for years to come. Please keep videos like this coming. Showing regular ppl how easy it is to bargain hunt and make major upgrades for not a lot of money is exactly what I hoped you would do.
Thank you guys for videos like this! I mostly watch because how much fun PC building is, so imo there's no need for the most expensive components (even if that stuff is fun to watch to sometimes). I'm planning a build for my brother with some of my old parts and this video gave me some inspiration and ideas so thank you!
A channel with real advice not just a bunch of stats and numbers. Definitely refreshing.
Have to add. Yes, more of this please.
Great Jayz! Excellent idea to show possible upgrades for old PCs. Really helps out us regular guys!
definitely keep these videos coming, i love seeing the upgrades you can do for cheap 👌
I wish there were more relatable videos on TH-cam like this. This is great for most of us who are just scraping by and hustling for small but very welocome gains. I hope you keep doing some videos like this, they're very helpful and encouraging.
This is a really fun series. I promised myself in the future I would only buy used to do my part to reduce e-waste so this has been great to watch.
I am not even looking for an upgrade but this was so fun to watch. Just from an engineering standpoint, sometimes it's cool to see how you can play around with different options/parameters and get the most bang for your buck. Great Video Jay!
I love this series! Marketplace builds are interesting to me. Keep up the great work!
This video is spot on. Just realized that after having my pc starting to make random cut outs after years without maintenance, that my components is getting older. Started to make me wonder which parts is "salvageable" and only needs a brush up and which is the ones that I should replace. Great vid! - Keep them coming :D
Yes! Love these budget king / oem pcs
Cool video Jay. Thanks
Very interesting Jay. Please do more of this type.
Just wanted to add on to everyone else's sentiment that more videos like this would be awesome! Scrappy, budget-friendly, and approachable content while still focusing on squeezing out as much performance as possible.
9:02 Jay channeling his inner Linus. LOL
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Jay more authentic im my opinion i think this is what most people will experience for up great. Using eBay and selling old part s
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Keep stuff like this up, sir. You’ve got a great presentation style and I know these videos help people more than you may realize.
While I’ve been bitten by the ITX MINI-PC bug, your “how to build a computer” video is what helped me see that I really could build my own.
Great stuff! Keep up the good work!
This is the kind of videos we need more of TBH. And especially showing gaming benchmarks to prove that you dont need to spend a lot of money for a gaming rig.
Especially helpful for people on an extreme budget.
I've always bought high-end parts, because I can afford it, however after watching LTT and now Jay do these videos - I am motivated to do such a build myself.
I like these upgrade videos as well. This is real world, real life videos that cater to people who don't want nor don't need a new computer but want to give a second life to a system on a budget. Kudos to you!
i think this is a really good series idea!
Hi Jay and team. Love these videos that you have been posting to the masses. I am happy that you remember where your main group of viewers probably have for their daily driver as their systems. Much respect! 🙂
The bots are in full force already it seems, judging from all the ghost replies
Yeah, more and more lately
yup, they found a new way to get around the auto banning.
Vids like these are very valuable, showing logical steps for upgrading without breaking bank.
About 3 weeks ago I upgraded my father's cpu and motherboard, but everything else was reused; ddr4 sticks, hdds, nmve storage, gpu and fans :)
All in all it cost only about 330 euros to upgrade
Tip: see if you can easily detach the back panel of a prebuild; the one from my father's case wouldn't budge and it made rerouting cables a nightmare
this little series was awesome, much more informative for the average joe who doesn't have 2-3 grand to blow on a high end PC, and more information on how to deal shop a little bit as well when it comes to second hand purchasing too. On behalf of everyone, Thanks Jay!
Definitely do more of this kind of content. It'll help a lot of people getting into PC gaming. It would also help showing the "issues" these machines can have in the bios screens as well.
You guys should do a budget build battle. Everyone gets $800 and can spend it anyway they like, new, used or a mix of parts. Or you could do a blind taste test. Build a cheap, mid range and high end system, put them behind a curtain and then everyone uses each one to play a couple different games. Not only would it be entertaining to have all of you guys in some videos but maybe it could give people a better understanding of where they may want to sacrifice when building on a budget.
I kind of experience this every couple years. When I upgrade, it means upgrades for my two boys. I already build on a budget, usually aiming around the mid range of things. My youngest is still on the FX-8350 and an RX480. My oldest is on a Ryzen 3600 and RX580. So it's definitely time to start looking at PC parts again.
I absolutely think we need more of this series. I have also struggled with figuring out where to upgrade my gaming pc in a meaningful way without spending a ton of money on stuff.
Great video, im in a prosess of upgrading my own system and getting shocked by the prices in norway right now. So found this "series" real interesseting, keep it up! :)
What a fun video. Thanks man.
One of the best parts about starting out building PCs is that you can buy someone's old build and then upgrade it later on. You just have to do a little bit of research and buy the right build that has an upgrade path. Used hardware is perfectly fine, and you can get a lot for your money going on the used market. Videos like this are awesome, because it shows you don't need the latest and greatest to have a great gaming PC.
2080 super was a good call, glad to see good tips like this 👌 well done Jay, I'd honestly love to see more content like this. Edit: I believe the "bigger number better" is part of the reason for the 3060 selling at a higher price. You are the only person I've seen suggest the 2080 super over the 3060. Most suggested "budget" builds I have seen either use the 6600/6600xt or 3060
Keep this type of content coming. Just as many people choose this route over buying new. Thanks Jay. Hope your health is improving each day. Cheers!
love the used content versus the latest greatest stuff
You are right, Jay. This was fun. I'd much rather content like this over monitor or case unboxings. Too many channels do that already. As a new hardware buyer, I learnt so much about the secondhand market from this video, and may consider that as an option moving forward. Thanks guys!
These videos are great! Especially for new pc builders or even those that don't know a whole lot about what to look for. So what a great way to spotlight the used market. I have personally only ever built with brand new parts but maybe when I need an upgrade I will use the used market and give new purpose to some "old" hardware.
These are my favorite kind of tech video aside from retro content... showcasing how to build a balanced system that's good for most things. Definitely keep this series going.
Is it nice seeing all the new shiny? Sure. Is it nice having all the new shiny? Definitely. But most of us are not doing high-end workstation/server computing at home, or gaming on multiple 4k monitors. Even the Steam Hardware Survey still lists the GTX 1650 as the second-most popular graphics card.
Great to see you back Jay! Also really liked the video. Cool seeing TH-camrs finally start to talk about the used market for this stuff.
Definitely continue with this “series” of getting budget used pcs and upgrading them. Definitely enjoy watching yall compare what you can get for the old parts vs how much the news one cost.
Love this video, its a good example of how someone can keep their older systems performing well for minimal cost.
Please keep making these! I love watching you explore the 2nd hand market.
Yes, please, more about this stuff - looks so satisfying when you’re able to get high-end performance on a real budget
I really dig this upgrade-over-time layout. This is the exact same that I did with my ancient i5-760 over a 10 year period. Upgraded to SATA SSDs over time, upgraded the graphics card numerous times, sold old parts as they were swapped, etc. Ended up spending about $300 net in upgrades over 10 years by selling old parts.
Yes Jay definitely do more of these types of vids, people are hurting economy wise so these videos are real help for cash strapped families and this topic shows another way instead of debt for them.
Yes Jay, definitely do more of these upgrade the used PC projects! I love seeing these kind of videos to see the real performance gain!
Yes, I love the upgrade path videos, and also the high-end versus low end parts comparison. Thanks Jay!
Jay - great content. The reuse and repurpose economy is a thing. It encourages people to be resourceful and own their builds. Love this series
YES these videos are great for people in those situations... Bought a prebuilt, and now looking to expand !
please do upgrade vids, that was my last ten yrs. getting ready to do my first build ever and seeing you work though these builds really helps me understand with what I already know
Yeh Jay, more of things like this. You look as though your health is improving as well. Thank you for all your honest and helpful content.
Terry from Australia.
Great video Jay and super interesting. Please do more of this style of content. Not only is it refreshing to see as an enthusiast but it's far more relevant today as prices continue to rise.
Jay, I really enjoyed this video. I've fixed up used (and so-called broken, per Geek Squad) PCs for years, as well as building new systems from scratch. It's a challenge to see if I could bump up additional performance from an older used PC, and pass them on to my sons and nephews. This video showed a cost effective way to 'soup up' a so-so HP Omen to make it a good gamer system. So - yeah, you get my vote for any kind of video like this, 'cause we're all wanting to save some $$ on our builds. A suggestion: many of the OEM/store bought systems have decent components, but have awful cooling. I've modded many older Dells to increase cooling capability, but I'd like to see how you approach resolving cooling problems, like you did in this video. Thanks, and to your good health! 👍👍👍
Absolutely! Keep doing stuff like this!
You have become the "Wheeler Dealer" of PC's. I really like this kind of stuff because the average builder really learns a lot from this. You find out that you don't need top tier hardware to have a good gaming experience. Keep up the good work!
I love these style of video's. I mean personally I'm not learning much news but it's a nice change of pace and it's very useful to show to my tech illiterate friends bc they sometimes question me hunting for bargans and what not
I love these 'upgrade' videos. It shows real world problems (cooler that doesn't cover the IHS, no room for a fan, limited cooler height space...). Maybe you could continue it with this PC. Pretend you've had this one for a year and are looking for an upgrade. Would you do another CPU upgrade? A 3080? Power supply?
We want more Jay. This is so relatable to the average consumer.
This has to be more useful to most viewers than chucking a 4070ti super in EVERYTHING, as a "sensible" alternative to a 4090 for the real people out there.
I sold my 3070 ti for $275 and got my 3080 for $300 from eBay just need to repaste it because the previous owner tried and failed but it works lmao
Really liked the video. For someone with an old pc at the moment, it’s cool to see what cheap but powerful upgrades you can do.
Definitely cool seeing how others do this. I think this type of series would benefit anyone wanting to learn and see how its done.
Great job! Keep up the good work
Continue this series sprinkling in the stuff you did before :)
Jay, please continue with updates on these 'moderate PC builds' showing practical and useful upgrades for people who need a good 'everyday' computer without breaking the bank!
I think this concept is great for showing people that aren't so much in the know the kind of thought process that goes into making realistic upgrades to your system. Very useful info.
I love this . If I couldn’t afford to buy new, or for any kid looking to learn, this is a superb idea. Keep up the great work you’re doing! 👏
I love this type of video. Reminds me of when I was in like college and just starting out working and having to come up with creative ways to get it done. So I would love to see this type of video from time to time.