Poor KGBeast. He wanted to kill Robin and thought wearing short shorts would make Robin vulnerable. Little did he know he should have set up a phone line to put Robin's life to a vote.
I'm about 10 minutes and I'm really enjoying how back issues is sort of evolving with how Sal chooses to approach the story and the story of the development. The development of these books is sometimes more interesting than the actual story. It's always been a thing you guys have done (I mean look at the Venom Returns episode) but the depth you use going into these gritty details these past few months is really well researched and interesting to listen to as it puts my mindset back in whatever era and state of consciousness the writers, editors, and cultural-zeitgeist was at the time. Also, really close to 100K!
The story behind the story is honestly one of the best parts of back issues, and unique to this show as opposed to other comic book summarizations. That and Sal’s quip about being a car 🤣 ♿️.
Sal having to explain Reagan's "Star Wars" program to people makes me feel so old. Loved this series so much as a kid. Jim Aparo's Batman will always be my quintessential Batman.
God, I have a soft spot for KGBeast. Back in 2013, when almost nobody knew of him, I wrote a biography of his for a russian comicbook webpage. Later, I had an account named after Anatoli Knyazev, a matching profile pic, and a fan group dedicated strictly to his character. Suddenly, he started popping up everywhere - Arrow, BvS, Assault on Arkham, All Star Batman, Harley Quinn Show. Now he even got to ComicPop. I'm proud of Tolya ))) Ma boy
turns out he has mandatory overtime today so it wasn't the laughing that woke him up so we can all rest easy that the POPulation didn't wake anybody up
I’d like to see Modern Batman be returned to that than more post-Tower of Babel Batman. I think they should just bring back the Outsider or someone capable of knocking Batman back to square one and forcing him to use his own on his feet adaptive wits rather than trying to meticulously plan his moves ahead.
Man, this was surprisingly really good! i thought it'd be goofy 80's cheese, but while there is some silly stuff, it's actually a really solid face-off. Felt like I haven't seen Batman genuinely tested like this in a while-it's usually just the Joker or whoever suddenly becoming unstoppable while Bruce fails to do anything meaningful. This felt like a real, thoughtful challenge of all Batman's skills, which is fun.
I really like all the background info you've been adding before jumping into the book. It really gives context and perspective on the story and the era it's printed in.
In case one of the guys read this, apparently the Batman: TAS engine noise was a reciprocating engine. I can't seem to find what kind exactly... but I'm guessing it was a pretty darn huge one then they tampered with the sound in house. :)
I love how we get to hear the background of the books before we delve into the story. If I were a younger man I might not be as interested, wanting to just get into the action, but as a more mature reader I now know love this added lore.
Not only did we get a 5 minute tangent about the models of the Batmobile but we also got to learn about an iconic GKBeast story. Glad I’m marathoning back issues. 🍿🥤
Love the Batmobile tangent. One that I’m fond of they didn’t mention is the The Batman Batmobile that basically is just a supped-up muscle car. On the topic of back issues, could you do a Thunderbolts run or a broader episode that covers the Dark Reign era in Marvel.
Just subscribed and by ra there is so many videos! So happy because I work at home and need more comic book stream content now that I'm caught up with Valiant and Comicstorian
Hey, I just found your channel and just wanted to say thank you for putting out so much amazing content! I watched two videos of yours (this and Batman Damned) but you are already my favorite Comic Book channel out there. The care you put into these videos and the BTS information you research for your videos is just amazing!
My favorite Batmobile is the Morrison/Quitely Batman and Robin one. Its a car yes. But it also transforms into a plane like the Delorean in Back to the Future. A bit silly? Sure. But its way more practical than having to navigate Gotham Traffic or taking out the full Batplane every single time you need it. Plus its just the RIGHT amount of silly. Its a comic book.
The beheading thing is real. A relative of some friends was almost decapitated on his bike by a kite wire. Here in Brazil, the kids have a custom of putting glass wax on the wire, so they can cut other kid's kites and take them. And sometimes, these kites go on roads and bikers end up on a hospital bed or on the morgue.
Yo, can I make a request? I really want to see more stories of batman and Robin as a team. They're my favorite duo/team in general so I'd love to see more of them.
Its been 30 years since I read this. A lot of fond memories of this story from when I was a kid. The plot is still awesome even with it being a product of its time and the art looking dated. Would love an omnibus of this era.
There's a podcast I listen to called Blank Check which covers film directors and goes through each person's filmography. The format of the podcast is only tangentially about the plot of each movie, but instead gives a lot of history and context to the creation and reception of each film. Back Issues episodes like this remind me of that format, and I always appreciate the opportunity to learn a little more about the comics industry and the (often) absurd decisions made by creators, publishers, and readers alike. This episode, Onslaught, Death of Superman... all great insights.
I swear you guys had done this already lol I remember you tearing into the rope scene. I guess I’ve seen too many back issues, I probably hear your voices now when I read 😂
I love this channel more than practically anything on the face of this earth. it has meant so much to me for nearly the majority of my life (as i am 20 and have watched since i was 12). thank you beyond thanks, and beyond belief, ‘TV Little House’ ;)
Wednesday is my favorite day of the week because of back issues I can always count on it making my day I watch old back issues and enjoy them like I would on first viewing
Wonder how long it will take before the creators of this comic series gets mentioned/credited in the video? 2:29 name drops the writer Jim Starlin 5:50 Artist Jim Aparo And killing 100 Republicans?!?! Good job, KGBeast.
With the batmobile, I think there are a few things that makes it a regular part of Bruce's stuff. 1. Bruce is peak human, but he isn't superhuman. Spiderman has the benefit of super strength, super speed and super reflexes to make webslinging work. Bruce's gadgets and body would get a lot of wear and tear if he was grappling everywhere. 2. The depressed city motifs. That the streets of Gotham aren't crowded like regular streets because everyone hides at night from the crime all around. Travel by fast car isn't as implausible. 3. Maneuverable and practicality. The bat plane is super obvious hovering around and might make stealth a bit tricky. Grappling is just a bit slow. The car is a compromise to work between the two for getting somewhere fast but not in a way to be TOO obvious or clunky for maintenance.
This story has all the ingredients of a 1980's action movie a mix of James Bond with Die Hard but with Batman in the story, also a good Rocky IV reference with the whole cold war that was going on. This story like with Batman Year Two barely get any love on best Batman stories.
LOL, you guys are discussing Beast's outfit, but no-one commented on how similar it is to Bane's.... Anyway as usual the three of you are extremely interesting and entertaining. Awesome work, guys....!!
now i know why Batman has a (Screw This Guy) mood for KG Beast and why years later he'll be left neck broken in the snow after shooting Nightwing in the head this guy is too much its hilarious
I believe Jim starlin didn’t care about Batman’s no kill rule. Look at most of his stories. Batman: The Cult - Batman kills people while drugged. Batman: Ten Nights of the Beast - locks KGBeast in a room with no means of survival. A Death in the Family - Batman tries to kill joker in the helicopter. Heck, Robin kills a diplomats son!!!
I mean, in Batman: The Cult he clearly only kills people one time after being brainwashed and in ADINTF, Robin killing and Batman almost killing is seen as a genuine plot point and something completely out of the norm.
An older Batman who is just tired and has looser rules? I kinda feel that includes Bruce in Batman Beyond. I think of a few episodes where Bruce would leave someone to die or advocate leaving them to their fates.
Arrow's updated version of KGBeast was actually a pretty fun character. He never fought, but he was more of a mob boss and pretty much Oliver's best frenemy.
Still have to finish watching the episode, so probably you'll say it, but I always thought of the KGBeast as a foreshadowing of Bane. Not only because of his altered strength and general "luchador" appearance (plus being a foreigner), but mainly because it represents an enemy that Batman CAN'T defeat physically.
Reagan going to Gotham even though like 100+ important people were murdered makes a lot of sense. You want to keep the KGBeast where you know where he is, so you set up a decoy. Lead him to where you want him and take him out. That being said, there's no rhyme or reason for Reagan actually showing up in Gotham--that's insane.
Loved the Batmobile discussion and Sal is right about it not making sense in a city. And to that I ask does Sal prefer the Batcycle? It's easier to get around the city on but offers less protection than the Batmobile.
I’m curious to see how this iteration of the bat mobile looks on screen as it harkens back to the version of being a supped up muscle car. But the 89 bar mobile is still favorite as of right now
Given that Batman was the leader of the Justice League at this point, a throwaway line about JL being on the case could’ve avoided the whole “why didn’t they call Superman?” Thing
@@comicpop if the justice league is insufficient, then you just ask why didn’t they call Superman for everything. Is everything really a Superman level issue? At what level of incident do you say we need to call Superman? Polka Dot Man just robbed the bank, better call Superman. Wouldnt Crimson Avenger do the trick? Maybe, but let’s call Superman anyway just to be sure
@@comicpop and alls I was saying is a quick throwaway line in the book could’ve avoided that and made some sort of sense. As opposed to the real reason which is because the books called “Batman: 10 nights of the beast” not “Superman: cleaning up the mess because Batman screwed up.”
Poor KGBeast. He wanted to kill Robin and thought wearing short shorts would make Robin vulnerable. Little did he know he should have set up a phone line to put Robin's life to a vote.
I'm about 10 minutes and I'm really enjoying how back issues is sort of evolving with how Sal chooses to approach the story and the story of the development. The development of these books is sometimes more interesting than the actual story. It's always been a thing you guys have done (I mean look at the Venom Returns episode) but the depth you use going into these gritty details these past few months is really well researched and interesting to listen to as it puts my mindset back in whatever era and state of consciousness the writers, editors, and cultural-zeitgeist was at the time.
Also, really close to 100K!
The story behind the story is honestly one of the best parts of back issues, and unique to this show as opposed to other comic book summarizations. That and Sal’s quip about being a car 🤣 ♿️.
A lot of the time the thought process and development of said story tends to be a whole lot more interesting than the story itself.
Comparin tha President of Egypt to MLK was hella funny
KGBeast vs USAgent. Too bad they aren't in the same comic verse, because that sounds like a cool story.
That is fa ts
Good call! Be cool to see him against Frank Castle too.
This is literally the first time I’ve realized US Agent is USAgent. Idk how I never saw it before.
It’s not a Communist joke until everyone gets it.
High Five i enjoyed that one
Ayyy
@@galvatron3323 we enjoyed that
Nice one
Nice
I love that Ethans “This is Insane!” Is now a trademark line on the channel
I stole it from Quagmire so I can't really claim it, but yeah Sal and I both love this line so it's gonna keep coming back.
That and “that’s not how X works!”
@@Jaimethepanda also “that sucks”
“No one has ever seen his face”
“Hey Batman, what about that 6’7” , 450lb giant in that crowd over there?”
No that's ugh Bane... clearly he's South American!
Sal having to explain Reagan's "Star Wars" program to people makes me feel so old. Loved this series so much as a kid. Jim Aparo's Batman will always be my quintessential Batman.
God, I have a soft spot for KGBeast. Back in 2013, when almost nobody knew of him, I wrote a biography of his for a russian comicbook webpage. Later, I had an account named after Anatoli Knyazev, a matching profile pic, and a fan group dedicated strictly to his character. Suddenly, he started popping up everywhere - Arrow, BvS, Assault on Arkham, All Star Batman, Harley Quinn Show. Now he even got to ComicPop. I'm proud of Tolya ))) Ma boy
We found him folks. The worlds #1 KGBeast Super fan....
They grow up so fast
@@mshankute You mean One and only KGBeast Super fan
Me: "Ugh, I have so much work to do"
Sal: "Hey! Let's do a Batman story"
Me: "Aaaaannnnd this is my life now"
Stahp putting me on blast
the thing about watching a new back issues at 5:45am in the morning is accidently waking up roomates with the laughing haha sorry bro
turns out he has mandatory overtime today so it wasn't the laughing that woke him up so we can all rest easy that the POPulation didn't wake anybody up
This couldn't have come at a better time. After today's workday, Back Issues is going to be a welcome relief.
Feeling this
I felt that one
Because I couldn’t resist the low hanging fruit after Rocky IV was mentioned in the review:
KG Beast: “I must break you.”
Remember when Batman solved mysteries wasn’t always prepared or the greatest at everything and was suspenseful?
I’d like to see Modern Batman be returned to that than more post-Tower of Babel Batman. I think they should just bring back the Outsider or someone capable of knocking Batman back to square one and forcing him to use his own on his feet adaptive wits rather than trying to meticulously plan his moves ahead.
@@rayvenkman2087 I would perfer it if the ended his canon story.
Made stories about the his past.
And used the multiverse for his other comics
Blame Morrison. Always blame Morisson.
1:09:59
That moment when you realize Batman and KGBeast were literally playing catch with a dead body
Man, this was surprisingly really good! i thought it'd be goofy 80's cheese, but while there is some silly stuff, it's actually a really solid face-off. Felt like I haven't seen Batman genuinely tested like this in a while-it's usually just the Joker or whoever suddenly becoming unstoppable while Bruce fails to do anything meaningful. This felt like a real, thoughtful challenge of all Batman's skills, which is fun.
So what the title implies is that Batman “didn’t kill him, but didn’t have to save him”?
That's perfect. Please edit the title to this lol.
Ethans so right i couldn't put in the amount of work it would take to be as prepared as Batman. Dang tough truths from Ethan today.
I really like all the background info you've been adding before jumping into the book. It really gives context and perspective on the story and the era it's printed in.
"If I'm in a wheelchair am I a car?"
"If my Grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike!"
In case one of the guys read this, apparently the Batman: TAS engine noise was a reciprocating engine. I can't seem to find what kind exactly... but I'm guessing it was a pretty darn huge one then they tampered with the sound in house. :)
I love how we get to hear the background of the books before we delve into the story. If I were a younger man I might not be as interested, wanting to just get into the action, but as a more mature reader I now know love this added lore.
I am disappointed that Jim Starlin did not have thanos and Adam Warlock show up in this book.
I don't care if it's dc.
Not only did we get a 5 minute tangent about the models of the Batmobile but we also got to learn about an iconic GKBeast story. Glad I’m marathoning back issues. 🍿🥤
My favorite Batmobile is the one from the Telltale game. Because it turns into a sports car as camouflage.
I totally agree with everything Sal said about the Batmobile.
Love the Batmobile tangent. One that I’m fond of they didn’t mention is the The Batman Batmobile that basically is just a supped-up muscle car. On the topic of back issues, could you do a Thunderbolts run or a broader episode that covers the Dark Reign era in Marvel.
"In this KGBeast looks...less dope" 😆😆😆
Just subscribed and by ra there is so many videos! So happy because I work at home and need more comic book stream content now that I'm caught up with Valiant and Comicstorian
I agree with Sal on the Batmobile. My favorite travesal for Batman is Alfred driving him. I really like that visual.
Hey, I just found your channel and just wanted to say thank you for putting out so much amazing content! I watched two videos of yours (this and Batman Damned) but you are already my favorite Comic Book channel out there. The care you put into these videos and the BTS information you research for your videos is just amazing!
This show is such a gift.
My favorite Batmobile is the Morrison/Quitely Batman and Robin one. Its a car yes. But it also transforms into a plane like the Delorean in Back to the Future. A bit silly? Sure. But its way more practical than having to navigate Gotham Traffic or taking out the full Batplane every single time you need it. Plus its just the RIGHT amount of silly. Its a comic book.
For real, the history at the beginning made this book ten times as interesting than just explaining the plot in a vacuum.
The beheading thing is real. A relative of some friends was almost decapitated on his bike by a kite wire. Here in Brazil, the kids have a custom of putting glass wax on the wire, so they can cut other kid's kites and take them. And sometimes, these kites go on roads and bikers end up on a hospital bed or on the morgue.
Yo, can I make a request? I really want to see more stories of batman and Robin as a team. They're my favorite duo/team in general so I'd love to see more of them.
Its been 30 years since I read this. A lot of fond memories of this story from when I was a kid. The plot is still awesome even with it being a product of its time and the art looking dated. Would love an omnibus of this era.
Speaking KGBeast costume designs,my favorite has always been the justice league animated shows version
Ethan and Ben are no longer normies at this point.
I been binge watching all this back issues episodes. Its just became my favorite thing on TH-cam. Mahalo for that!
Sal: "I don't care much about the Batmobile..."
Also Sal: *proceeds to have a 15 minute discussion about batmobiles*
Ikr! 😂
Love a Back Issues to get me through the work day
"Ah! The reverse flying dead man!" This shit is gold.
There's a podcast I listen to called Blank Check which covers film directors and goes through each person's filmography. The format of the podcast is only tangentially about the plot of each movie, but instead gives a lot of history and context to the creation and reception of each film. Back Issues episodes like this remind me of that format, and I always appreciate the opportunity to learn a little more about the comics industry and the (often) absurd decisions made by creators, publishers, and readers alike. This episode, Onslaught, Death of Superman... all great insights.
19:56 It's the 80s...It's all ninjas.
I came back to look for an episode to watch and found I didn’t finish this one so I restarted it, always there when I need you guys
I swear you guys had done this already lol I remember you tearing into the rope scene. I guess I’ve seen too many back issues, I probably hear your voices now when I read 😂
This is my third time watching this episode and I still love every minute of it
Now he would be called FSBeast
Edit 1:03:30 OMG this image had me dying lol.
I got this book years ago from an old coworker. How fun to see it on Back Issues
What great timing, just rewatched cry of the huntress bat issues yesterday
nothing better than a back issues with reagan impressions
I love this channel more than practically anything on the face of this earth. it has meant so much to me for nearly the majority of my life (as i am 20 and have watched since i was 12). thank you beyond thanks, and beyond belief, ‘TV Little House’ ;)
Wednesday is my favorite day of the week because of back issues I can always count on it making my day I watch old back issues and enjoy them like I would on first viewing
Wonder how long it will take before the creators of this comic series gets mentioned/credited in the video?
2:29 name drops the writer Jim Starlin
5:50 Artist Jim Aparo
And killing 100 Republicans?!?! Good job, KGBeast.
A KGB Secret Assassin with advanced training and a robotic left hand?
OMG The Winter Soldier is a ripoff.
Should have known based on your description of the book who the villain was.
I am happy!
Never thought I'd see this book on here, but it was a great discussion. Well done!
Scott Snyder's take on the KGBeast was frickin' AWESOME
Batman Beyond Batmobile is the peak I gotta say.
This story, like so many from this era, I would love to have in trade
You know these guys are comedy gold when they can make a Reganomics joke funny. XD
That edit at 36.05 was smooth as fuck. Props to you guys, if I wasn't watching just then I would have never noticed.
Memphis Wrestling Legend Jerry "The King" Lawler bought the Adam West Batmobile.
41:58 Bold words for someone who is in nukeing distance.
I love the batmobile tangent! that was really fun
At last! a good Batman story reviewed. Good Job guys. Greetings from Colombia.
🤣 This was a great one
9:09 I had to pause & leave check out this PSA. I missed out on the 80's, thanks Ben
Jontron: WHAT?! WHAT THE FU-
With the batmobile, I think there are a few things that makes it a regular part of Bruce's stuff.
1. Bruce is peak human, but he isn't superhuman. Spiderman has the benefit of super strength, super speed and super reflexes to make webslinging work. Bruce's gadgets and body would get a lot of wear and tear if he was grappling everywhere.
2. The depressed city motifs. That the streets of Gotham aren't crowded like regular streets because everyone hides at night from the crime all around. Travel by fast car isn't as implausible.
3. Maneuverable and practicality. The bat plane is super obvious hovering around and might make stealth a bit tricky. Grappling is just a bit slow. The car is a compromise to work between the two for getting somewhere fast but not in a way to be TOO obvious or clunky for maintenance.
I swear Sal has vendetta against Bane since the 90s
Probably broke his back trying to collect all the issues in the Knightfall saga...
Man you guys have been on fire lately. Please give us some tangents of this episode.
This story has all the ingredients of a 1980's action movie a mix of James Bond with Die Hard but with Batman in the story, also a good Rocky IV reference with the whole cold war that was going on. This story like with Batman Year Two barely get any love on best Batman stories.
LOL, you guys are discussing Beast's outfit, but no-one commented on how similar it is to Bane's....
Anyway as usual the three of you are extremely interesting and entertaining. Awesome work, guys....!!
the batmobile should be a moving armoury FOR batman to replenish and carry around his supplies.
Wow, I've never read this one before, I'll have to check it out!
I especially like the Batmobile discussion.
It's available in the caped crusader volume 1
I really like death metal and all of it's supplement collectables, music, etc. Can't wait to see the episode of the complete death metal.
3:20 Just call him the FSBeast. Same shit.
wow arkham knight batmobil is pretty cool and the one from asylum is the best one
now i know why Batman has a (Screw This Guy) mood for KG Beast and why years later he'll be left neck broken in the snow after shooting Nightwing in the head this guy is too much its hilarious
I believe Jim starlin didn’t care about Batman’s no kill rule. Look at most of his stories. Batman: The Cult - Batman kills people while drugged. Batman: Ten Nights of the Beast - locks KGBeast in a room with no means of survival. A Death in the Family - Batman tries to kill joker in the helicopter. Heck, Robin kills a diplomats son!!!
I mean, in Batman: The Cult he clearly only kills people one time after being brainwashed and in ADINTF, Robin killing and Batman almost killing is seen as a genuine plot point and something completely out of the norm.
Jason was already unstable, Batman trying to kill Joker was treated as out of character in the story itself.
Its thanks to episodes like this i actually give older books a shot!
An older Batman who is just tired and has looser rules? I kinda feel that includes Bruce in Batman Beyond.
I think of a few episodes where Bruce would leave someone to die or advocate leaving them to their fates.
Arrow's updated version of KGBeast was actually a pretty fun character. He never fought, but he was more of a mob boss and pretty much Oliver's best frenemy.
Still have to finish watching the episode, so probably you'll say it, but I always thought of the KGBeast as a foreshadowing of Bane. Not only because of his altered strength and general "luchador" appearance (plus being a foreigner), but mainly because it represents an enemy that Batman CAN'T defeat physically.
Reagan going to Gotham even though like 100+ important people were murdered makes a lot of sense. You want to keep the KGBeast where you know where he is, so you set up a decoy. Lead him to where you want him and take him out. That being said, there's no rhyme or reason for Reagan actually showing up in Gotham--that's insane.
Loved the Batmobile discussion and Sal is right about it not making sense in a city. And to that I ask does Sal prefer the Batcycle? It's easier to get around the city on but offers less protection than the Batmobile.
Yes! Kgbeast love this story
So we got a back issues episode and a tangent in the same video? Double prize
I’m curious to see how this iteration of the bat mobile looks on screen as it harkens back to the version of being a supped up muscle car. But the 89 bar mobile is still favorite as of right now
This is definitely on my in “go to” episodes list.
We need more tangents like the batmobile one
Given that Batman was the leader of the Justice League at this point, a throwaway line about JL being on the case could’ve avoided the whole “why didn’t they call Superman?” Thing
@@comicpop if the justice league is insufficient, then you just ask why didn’t they call Superman for everything. Is everything really a Superman level issue? At what level of incident do you say we need to call Superman? Polka Dot Man just robbed the bank, better call Superman. Wouldnt Crimson Avenger do the trick? Maybe, but let’s call Superman anyway just to be sure
@@jamesbarr8218 Yep, that's basically a summary of what we say in the show.
@@comicpop and alls I was saying is a quick throwaway line in the book could’ve avoided that and made some sort of sense. As opposed to the real reason which is because the books called “Batman: 10 nights of the beast” not “Superman: cleaning up the mess because Batman screwed up.”
I think thats only doom metal that is missing.
This was great, Classic Back Issues!
Only Sal woul complain about the batmobile.😂
Remember when batman blew this guy up with a flamethrower
Speaking of legends of the dark Knight I would love for you guys to do "going sane"
Blind Justice!
sweet mother of the grey fucking ghost! That is a gimpsuit on the cover!!
Personally I love Robert Pattinson's batmobile