As usual, love your genuine content. Do you think it is introducing an unnecessary maintenance (potential air leak) given how simple and robust swag + foldable poles? Let us know how it compares when it comes to wind resistance.
yeah, I totally get that, I have only camped in it 4 times and who know when it will get a leak. I presume at some point it will and I doubt a repair will be perfect. I did have it out in a huge wind storm and it went well. I had it stacked down each corner and the end windows stakes. Plus I had a tarp too. But it was super sturdy all the same. Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the positive feedback, cheers. Have a great weekend ✌🏻
LIKE 55 After the failed attempt you finally got the swag up with the big pump! Just as well you did bring it along for a back up Chris. Nice touch with the sprinkling of the oils. Don't apologise for your waffling on Chris, you did well. Watched it all from start to finish! Awww, Hate waking up with a stiff neck! Great video and hopefully you will continue to use it. Have a great weekend Chris.
thanks for the vid, really good 2 see if the mods work. I like the head height in that swag, my darche dusk till dawn is a liitle 2 low. I found the secret to the foam mattress it comes with is to add a 3cm memory foam topper, big difference. I havent rolled it up in the swag yet, but will try it out. I reckon the older you are....aim for a 10cm mattress, 7cm will do for the younger ones. I used the bambillo 7cm memory foam mattress ontop the standard 7cm swag mattress and that was the best night sleep. Just 2 bulky carrying the two hahah
cool, thanks for you thoughts. My other swag has 7.5cm foam mattress and I find that spot on without a topper, I wish you could take this to mean I am a young one 😛 The head space is very cool, but those Darche swag are no slouches either. Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback 🙂
Another successful evaluation report. All good stuff for the punters out here, a heads-up is always welcome with mods that make it all a bit mor comfortable. FYI I use a single quality self inflating mattress under a 75mm thick good jobbie, makes it like sleeping on a cloud. Topped with a cotton sheet and as you suggest a good quality down filled doona on top. I think it’s all trial and error to suit your own needs. Anyway, my two cents worth and love your ‘work’ well done and thanks! Cheers
Thanks mate, a few people have suggested a self inflating sleep pad. I do have one I use for hikes when I plan to camp, but I have always had a thing for air mattresses. I'll probably try one at some point. Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback, appreciate it ✌🏻
Good day, When we visited your beautiful country we actually bought 2 swags, a dometic air swag and a 23zero bandit. The dometic is similar to the San hima that you're testing. The built-in air mattress was fine for about four days and failed. So after we returned home to Utah, I bought the exact same mattress as my 23zero from the 23zero distributor in Salt Lake City. It works out well, but is much bulkier than with the air mattress. And the canvas on the 23zero is much heavier and seems to be a lot better quality than the dometic. I may try a bellows foot pump that I used to have for an inflatable boat. Anyway good luck with your hunt for a good compact pump.
G'day up in Utah, some amazing place up there I'd love to visit sometime. Agree 100% with everything you said. The 75mm 23Zero mattress was a serious option, but it was just a little expensive, but I'll probably go down that path if this one doesn't work out. I suspect I'd probably buy a 23Zero canvas bags too at that point because it would be a little bulky. I a not really a fan of air mattresses for a number of reasons, noise, slippery, leaks etc. I do have one with a built in foot pump that I use for hiking camps and it goes okay, but will never be as comfy as foam. Thanks for watching and taking the time to reach out, really appreciate it. Good luck with your adventures up there ✌🏻
This really made me want to go camping, I loved seeing the air swag, would be a fantastic addition to our gear if I can get my hands on it here in NZ That mattress did look a little less than comfortable haha, looked a lot more like a comforter type blanket instead
ha ha ha, yeah it was actually a mattress topper. It have a very soft side which was pretty cool. Swags are great options for camping, whatever style you choose 🙂 Thanks for watching once again and thanks for the feedback✌🏻
When you mentioned that you are going to modify the swag to be even greater it just popped in my head that you are going to need to replace the inflatable mat with the real one, then replace these silly inflatable poles with simpler aluminum ones. And finally, to replace this fancy synthetic fabric with a nice and cozy oiled cotton 🙂 Yeah, would be a bit heavier probably, but swags in general aren't ultralight weight...
Ha Ha Ha, yeah, that is probably the best solution. I do have a canvas swag which is awesome. Had it for years and it is still as good as the day I got it. It's just fun trying to get this one workable for the way I camp. I suspect one day I'll get a leak and I doubt any sort of repair will be worth much. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking a minute not reach out, cheers ✌🏻
Looks like it might be a nice swag in revision 2 if they make one haha. I live in the US and tried the same 23zero you had. I ended up selling it but Ive been thinking about buying the 1400 version since we are limited over here lol. Have you considered putting a high quality self inflating mat in instead of that one you bought? I have an Exped Megamat extra long and wide and I love it. You could just use whatever you use to fill the swag to fill the mattress and than you can just leave it in the swag. Itd probably be nicer haha. Hell, 23zero may even sell you just a mattress since you like it a lot. In regards to the straps, you might be able to find some nice straps, attach some Drings like 23zero, and than use some rubber cement or something similar to glue them to the bottom of the swag. Just got to make sure the glue wouldnt ruin the material. Might work. Anyways, enjoyed the video!
yeah, I did think about that. I have never been a big fan of air mattresses - noise, slippery, hip using punches through. All based on experience from a long time ago and I suspect they're much better these days. I do have a few but they are not self inflating. Cost is another thing, you can spend a fortune on sleeping pads. I'll see how this set up goes for a few camps and have a think then. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking a minute to reach out, really appreciate it, cheers ✌🏻
Looks like a couple of your mods & improvements worked out and a couple didn’t. I learned to bring the old equipment along when experimenting; it’s good that you had the old pump! It’s tough to beat a real mattress if you have the room to bring it!
yeah, I agree about the mattress. I'll probably end up with a proper farm one when U have a few dollars to spare. Fun testing this one out though and it went okay. The pump is a big bit of gear, so getting rid of that is a big win, just need a better rechargeable pump 😛 Thanks for watching once again, cheers ✌🏻
cool Vid . What's the advantage of a air swag compared to your other one ? using that little pump looks like its faster to set up ? also why not just wrap your swag in the green ground tarp you used. Then when you unwrap it the ground tarp is already there with your swag ontop ready to be pitched / pumped . Happy Camping :)
it's roomier than my other swag which I like, but otherwise is to not much different once it's set up. I opted for the 2nd tarp because the ground sheet tarp is always wet and muddy. It was a cheap option, but suspect it will not last long 😛 Thanks for checking back in ✌🏻
@@outandabout_oz Ive never used a cot but like a hammock the advantage would be, less likely for crawling ants/insects/snakes/spiders to get in , help some with insulation from cold ground , durability from sticks poking through the floor of the swag . If its pissing down flooding you're well above the water if it runs through where you set up your swag .no getting out digging trenches and diverting water in the pouring rain and easier to get in and out and a nicer place to sit rather than at ground level . . cont cost money , time to set up and dismantle and just more stuff to carry and mess with . If i did swag camping i would be tempted to get a fairly high one 300 mm or higher so as to make it nice to sit . would just add more comfort less worry when its pissing down but more hassle . pros and cons . I can see a camp cot video in the making lol ;)
As usual, love your genuine content. Do you think it is introducing an unnecessary maintenance (potential air leak) given how simple and robust swag + foldable poles? Let us know how it compares when it comes to wind resistance.
yeah, I totally get that, I have only camped in it 4 times and who know when it will get a leak. I presume at some point it will and I doubt a repair will be perfect.
I did have it out in a huge wind storm and it went well. I had it stacked down each corner and the end windows stakes. Plus I had a tarp too. But it was super sturdy all the same.
Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the positive feedback, cheers. Have a great weekend ✌🏻
LIKE 55
After the failed attempt you finally got the swag up with the big pump! Just as well you did bring it along for a back up Chris.
Nice touch with the sprinkling of the oils.
Don't apologise for your waffling on Chris, you did well. Watched it all from start to finish!
Awww, Hate waking up with a stiff neck!
Great video and hopefully you will continue to use it.
Have a great weekend Chris.
Thanks Jo Jo, you're always so positive and always makes my day. Cheers 🙂
Whilst im not sure I’m a convert of the air swag, I enjoyed (as always) watching your review and mods. Thanks for sharing with us, Chris :)
🙂 yeah, it's a different approach for sure and your 23 Zero is never going to let you down 😛✌🏻
thanks for the vid, really good 2 see if the mods work.
I like the head height in that swag, my darche dusk till dawn is a liitle 2 low.
I found the secret to the foam mattress it comes with is to add a 3cm memory foam topper, big difference. I havent rolled it up in the swag yet, but will try it out.
I reckon the older you are....aim for a 10cm mattress, 7cm will do for the younger ones.
I used the bambillo 7cm memory foam mattress ontop the standard 7cm swag mattress and that was the best night sleep. Just 2 bulky carrying the two hahah
cool, thanks for you thoughts. My other swag has 7.5cm foam mattress and I find that spot on without a topper, I wish you could take this to mean I am a young one 😛
The head space is very cool, but those Darche swag are no slouches either.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback 🙂
Another successful evaluation report. All good stuff for the punters out here, a heads-up is always welcome with mods that make it all a bit mor comfortable.
FYI I use a single quality self inflating mattress under a 75mm thick good jobbie, makes it like sleeping on a cloud. Topped with a cotton sheet and as you suggest a good quality down filled doona on top.
I think it’s all trial and error to suit your own needs.
Anyway, my two cents worth and love your ‘work’ well done and thanks! Cheers
Thanks mate, a few people have suggested a self inflating sleep pad. I do have one I use for hikes when I plan to camp, but I have always had a thing for air mattresses. I'll probably try one at some point.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback, appreciate it ✌🏻
Good day,
When we visited your beautiful country we actually bought 2 swags, a dometic air swag and a 23zero bandit.
The dometic is similar to the San hima that you're
testing.
The built-in air mattress was fine for about four days and failed.
So after we returned home to Utah, I bought the exact same mattress as my 23zero from the 23zero distributor in Salt Lake City.
It works out well, but is much bulkier than with the air mattress.
And the canvas on the 23zero is much heavier and seems to be a lot better quality than the dometic.
I may try a bellows foot pump that I used to have for an inflatable boat.
Anyway good luck with your hunt for a good compact pump.
G'day up in Utah, some amazing place up there I'd love to visit sometime.
Agree 100% with everything you said. The 75mm 23Zero mattress was a serious option, but it was just a little expensive, but I'll probably go down that path if this one doesn't work out. I suspect I'd probably buy a 23Zero canvas bags too at that point because it would be a little bulky.
I a not really a fan of air mattresses for a number of reasons, noise, slippery, leaks etc. I do have one with a built in foot pump that I use for hiking camps and it goes okay, but will never be as comfy as foam.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to reach out, really appreciate it. Good luck with your adventures up there ✌🏻
This really made me want to go camping, I loved seeing the air swag, would be a fantastic addition to our gear if I can get my hands on it here in NZ
That mattress did look a little less than comfortable haha, looked a lot more like a comforter type blanket instead
ha ha ha, yeah it was actually a mattress topper. It have a very soft side which was pretty cool. Swags are great options for camping, whatever style you choose 🙂
Thanks for watching once again and thanks for the feedback✌🏻
When you mentioned that you are going to modify the swag to be even greater it just popped in my head that you are going to need to replace the inflatable mat with the real one, then replace these silly inflatable poles with simpler aluminum ones. And finally, to replace this fancy synthetic fabric with a nice and cozy oiled cotton 🙂 Yeah, would be a bit heavier probably, but swags in general aren't ultralight weight...
Ha Ha Ha, yeah, that is probably the best solution. I do have a canvas swag which is awesome. Had it for years and it is still as good as the day I got it. It's just fun trying to get this one workable for the way I camp. I suspect one day I'll get a leak and I doubt any sort of repair will be worth much.
Thanks for watching and thanks for taking a minute not reach out, cheers ✌🏻
Looks like it might be a nice swag in revision 2 if they make one haha. I live in the US and tried the same 23zero you had. I ended up selling it but Ive been thinking about buying the 1400 version since we are limited over here lol.
Have you considered putting a high quality self inflating mat in instead of that one you bought? I have an Exped Megamat extra long and wide and I love it. You could just use whatever you use to fill the swag to fill the mattress and than you can just leave it in the swag. Itd probably be nicer haha. Hell, 23zero may even sell you just a mattress since you like it a lot.
In regards to the straps, you might be able to find some nice straps, attach some Drings like 23zero, and than use some rubber cement or something similar to glue them to the bottom of the swag. Just got to make sure the glue wouldnt ruin the material. Might work.
Anyways, enjoyed the video!
yeah, I did think about that. I have never been a big fan of air mattresses - noise, slippery, hip using punches through. All based on experience from a long time ago and I suspect they're much better these days. I do have a few but they are not self inflating.
Cost is another thing, you can spend a fortune on sleeping pads.
I'll see how this set up goes for a few camps and have a think then.
Thanks for watching and thanks for taking a minute to reach out, really appreciate it, cheers ✌🏻
Looks like a couple of your mods & improvements worked out and a couple didn’t. I learned to bring the old equipment along when experimenting; it’s good that you had the old pump!
It’s tough to beat a real mattress if you have the room to bring it!
yeah, I agree about the mattress. I'll probably end up with a proper farm one when U have a few dollars to spare. Fun testing this one out though and it went okay.
The pump is a big bit of gear, so getting rid of that is a big win, just need a better rechargeable pump 😛
Thanks for watching once again, cheers ✌🏻
cool Vid . What's the advantage of a air swag compared to your other one ? using that little pump looks like its faster to set up ? also why not just wrap your swag in the green ground tarp you used. Then when you unwrap it the ground tarp is already there with your swag ontop ready to be pitched / pumped . Happy Camping :)
it's roomier than my other swag which I like, but otherwise is to not much different once it's set up. I opted for the 2nd tarp because the ground sheet tarp is always wet and muddy. It was a cheap option, but suspect it will not last long 😛
Thanks for checking back in ✌🏻
This is a great swag, got one about a month ago. Put mine on the Teton xxl cot. Would be nice if it had a reachable internal pump for the swag.
Yeah for sure, the pump is the biggest hurdle for me. I have never used a cot but see them all the time. How do they go? What's the advantage?
@ sit down in your swag vs crawling into it.
@@outandabout_oz Ive never used a cot but like a hammock the advantage would be, less likely for crawling ants/insects/snakes/spiders to get in , help some with insulation from cold ground , durability from sticks poking through the floor of the swag . If its pissing down flooding you're well above the water if it runs through where you set up your swag .no getting out digging trenches and diverting water in the pouring rain and easier to get in and out and a nicer place to sit rather than at ground level . . cont cost money , time to set up and dismantle and just more stuff to carry and mess with . If i did swag camping i would be tempted to get a fairly high one 300 mm or higher so as to make it nice to sit . would just add more comfort less worry when its pissing down but more hassle . pros and cons . I can see a camp cot video in the making lol ;)