Hello Tony, tanks for watching and commenting mate means alot 😁👍 Was gob smacked with how good quality the swag was. Also have some of their lights going on, stay tuned for that 👍
Nice review. Would have liked to see how the outer cover is held back for when you are sleeping with just the mesh. How cold does it get in a NQ winter? That swag looks big enough to fit in 2 Sirroco fans when sleeping
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting. No sag from the sides pushing in at all, upside to having a lighter material less weight on the fly mesh. Where we live we get a few 2°c nights but most winter nights around 8-10°c could easy fit a fan of two in there👍
Done my first trip in mine. I would not recommend these swags for super cold nights. Single figures. They hold no heat in at all, totally froze. Actually, the air in the air mattress got that cold i felt the cold come up through the sleeping bag i was lying on. I was also using a camp stretcher. But the air concept is great.
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting, if you used the air mattress in winter you would have froze 🥶 Air is very hard for our bodies to heat, that's why I use self inflating little bit more foam to air ratio. I agree it's definitely way to thin to use in winter, but that's where a deasel heater comes in handy 🤣😅
Top review, they do look like a great piece of kit. A suggestion is that it may have helped to see the interior of the swag as in the air pole and mattress construction and pockets if any. No criticism intended. 😊 Cheers
mhmm interesting. The setup time is not that much off how fast I can setup my wonderer double swag. Pull down time has this winning hands down. I have noticed that this swag has a more traditional rounded look while the dometic pico it pentagon shaped giving more internal room. Yet again another great video and informative, keep it up
Hello Liam, thanks for watching and commenting mate means alot 👍😊 I'd say set up is easier but agree not a great deal faster. Your right pack down is where it smashed it. I reckon the shape is to help with water run off and stop water getting in. The traditional swag style is so water runs down the side quickly and doesn't soak through. The Pico could get pooling or leaking through slow run off. That's my thoughts any ways.
@@Off.Track4x4 Hey man, all good. I mean, I can understand the soak through if the awning was up. That being said a quick coat of your favourite water proofer would remove those concerns, I would suspect.
Hey!!! I got a Wander swag too!!! Picked it up in Tazzie, and brought it back to the states. L love it but it takes up a bit of room. That's why I'm looking at this swag.
My concern is the sag in the side walls. There is no support in the middle of the side walls ( no middle arch pole ) I could see a decent amount of wind pushing those walls in against your body or head. I have experienced it in other swags of this "no middle pole" type. That's a deal breaker for me.
Hey Michael, really good point and one I didn't think to talk about, honestly it's because it's not a thing with this swag, so it slipped my mind. My traditional 23zero swag with the hevey rip stop canvas definitely has that issue. This swag just doesn't, I'm assuming it's due to the far lighter Oxford poli fabric they have used. Even when I was court in the storm at Double Island and the swag got soaked the walls didn't push in on me. Maybe canvas has more stretch as well? But yeah great point sorry I didn't address it in the video.
How come you didn't set up the mattress in your review and include that in your setup time? Is the mattress any good? Maybe think a little more about the features you need to show to make your reviews a little more complete.
Hey mate, thank you for watching and commenting.😄👍 The video was running to long no one would want to watch a 20min video. As I mentioned in the video it's just a standard air mattress no difference to any other, I also said that we use a self inflating and that doesn't count to the set up time as we also use that in our tent and canvas swag 😄
That's why they give you the air mattress included.If space is an issue, and you don't have the room for self inflating, you just run the air mattress. Lucky space isn't an issue for us, especially dumping the big swag.
Hey mate, inside is all zippered that way if you have any issues with the air pillars they can be easily fixed. Internal storage will all depend on what size you pick but the double is huge for Ash and myself. I'm 6ft and have no issues with legroom or Hight sitting up, it feels huge.
Still enormous... not for a swag, but compared to a tent with a decent R-value mat these things are absurd. Durability is probably better, but carry a few spare tents and you are still winning. Never had to put a tent under an awning either. The air is a cool concept, it is quick but how much energy does it take to pump it up (and lug 19kg instead of 1-2 kg) compared to poles -- I've inflated a SUP and that isn't fun. Usually when I'm camping, energy is in shorter supply than time and I don't hear anyone talk about the effort, only time (faster does not alway imply lower total effort)
Hey Alax thanks for watching and your feed back, it only takes 19 pumps nothing like a sup, anyone that gets tired after 19 pumps properly shouldn't be out camping rather should be in hospital 🤣
@Off.Track4x4 sounds alright... the pump is an extra piece of gear but an electric pump has multiple uses. I'm assuming it comes with repair patches and that the valves are similar to those on inflatable dinghies so pretty robust?
Not really, even for camping next to the car I find space is at a premium in my vehicle... fishing gear, kayaking gear, sometimes even a 5hp outboard... and lugging another thing out of the car to setup... well I prefer just a standard small tent, lighter but also quicker... I'm not talking about multi-room stand up in things, I mean a logical replacement for a swag
Hi mate, another great review that looks impressive, and the price is good. and keep them reviews coming
Hello Tony, tanks for watching and commenting mate means alot 😁👍
Was gob smacked with how good quality the swag was. Also have some of their lights going on, stay tuned for that 👍
I'm looking forward to seeing the next one
Found your review! Thank you, they look good .
Honestly mate! Blown away at the quality and blown away at just how much better an air swag is.
Nice review. Would have liked to see how the outer cover is held back for when you are sleeping with just the mesh. How cold does it get in a NQ winter? That swag looks big enough to fit in 2 Sirroco fans when sleeping
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting. No sag from the sides pushing in at all, upside to having a lighter material less weight on the fly mesh.
Where we live we get a few 2°c nights but most winter nights around 8-10°c could easy fit a fan of two in there👍
Done my first trip in mine.
I would not recommend these swags for super cold nights.
Single figures.
They hold no heat in at all, totally froze. Actually, the air in the air mattress got that cold i felt the cold come up through the sleeping bag i was lying on. I was also using a camp stretcher.
But the air concept is great.
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting, if you used the air mattress in winter you would have froze 🥶
Air is very hard for our bodies to heat, that's why I use self inflating little bit more foam to air ratio.
I agree it's definitely way to thin to use in winter, but that's where a deasel heater comes in handy 🤣😅
Exactly... stretchers are a big mistake in cold weather for the same reason
Top review, they do look like a great piece of kit. A suggestion is that it may have helped to see the interior of the swag as in the air pole and mattress construction and pockets if any. No criticism intended. 😊 Cheers
Hey mate, thanks for watching and the feed back, I'll take it on board 😁
mhmm interesting. The setup time is not that much off how fast I can setup my wonderer double swag. Pull down time has this winning hands down. I have noticed that this swag has a more traditional rounded look while the dometic pico it pentagon shaped giving more internal room. Yet again another great video and informative, keep it up
Hello Liam, thanks for watching and commenting mate means alot 👍😊
I'd say set up is easier but agree not a great deal faster. Your right pack down is where it smashed it. I reckon the shape is to help with water run off and stop water getting in. The traditional swag style is so water runs down the side quickly and doesn't soak through. The Pico could get pooling or leaking through slow run off. That's my thoughts any ways.
@@Off.Track4x4 Hey man, all good. I mean, I can understand the soak through if the awning was up. That being said a quick coat of your favourite water proofer would remove those concerns, I would suspect.
Hey!!! I got a Wander swag too!!! Picked it up in Tazzie, and brought it back to the states. L love it but it takes up a bit of room. That's why I'm looking at this swag.
@@paulguerrero972 yeah they do. a whole 3 seater worth of room. Frankly, I'm over my wonder queen swag. Either going a Air tent or camper now.
My concern is the sag in the side walls. There is no support in the middle of the side walls ( no middle arch pole ) I could see a decent amount of wind pushing those walls in against your body or head. I have experienced it in other swags of this "no middle pole" type. That's a deal breaker for me.
Hey Michael, really good point and one I didn't think to talk about, honestly it's because it's not a thing with this swag, so it slipped my mind. My traditional 23zero swag with the hevey rip stop canvas definitely has that issue. This swag just doesn't, I'm assuming it's due to the far lighter Oxford poli fabric they have used. Even when I was court in the storm at Double Island and the swag got soaked the walls didn't push in on me. Maybe canvas has more stretch as well? But yeah great point sorry I didn't address it in the video.
How come you didn't set up the mattress in your review and include that in your setup time? Is the mattress any good? Maybe think a little more about the features you need to show to make your reviews a little more complete.
Hey mate, thank you for watching and commenting.😄👍 The video was running to long no one would want to watch a 20min video. As I mentioned in the video it's just a standard air mattress no difference to any other, I also said that we use a self inflating and that doesn't count to the set up time as we also use that in our tent and canvas swag 😄
agree - should have been reiterated when tent was complete.
@@Off.Track4x4so all of a sudden the pack up size isn’t as small now your running a self inflating mattress. 🤦🏽
That's why they give you the air mattress included.If space is an issue, and you don't have the room for self inflating, you just run the air mattress. Lucky space isn't an issue for us, especially dumping the big swag.
What are the insides of the seams like? Material? What are we talking internal storage wise?
Hey mate, inside is all zippered that way if you have any issues with the air pillars they can be easily fixed. Internal storage will all depend on what size you pick but the double is huge for Ash and myself. I'm 6ft and have no issues with legroom or Hight sitting up, it feels huge.
Still enormous... not for a swag, but compared to a tent with a decent R-value mat these things are absurd. Durability is probably better, but carry a few spare tents and you are still winning. Never had to put a tent under an awning either. The air is a cool concept, it is quick but how much energy does it take to pump it up (and lug 19kg instead of 1-2 kg) compared to poles -- I've inflated a SUP and that isn't fun. Usually when I'm camping, energy is in shorter supply than time and I don't hear anyone talk about the effort, only time (faster does not alway imply lower total effort)
Hey Alax thanks for watching and your feed back, it only takes 19 pumps nothing like a sup, anyone that gets tired after 19 pumps properly shouldn't be out camping rather should be in hospital 🤣
@Off.Track4x4 sounds alright... the pump is an extra piece of gear but an electric pump has multiple uses. I'm assuming it comes with repair patches and that the valves are similar to those on inflatable dinghies so pretty robust?
It appears you're missing the point with gear like this. It's not for the backpacker. It's for camping where you drive out.
Not really, even for camping next to the car I find space is at a premium in my vehicle... fishing gear, kayaking gear, sometimes even a 5hp outboard... and lugging another thing out of the car to setup... well I prefer just a standard small tent, lighter but also quicker... I'm not talking about multi-room stand up in things, I mean a logical replacement for a swag