Why Scarlet King VS Oblivion Isn't Fair
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- Why Scarlet King VS Oblivion Isn't Fair! Every cosmos has a dark threat or force that's meant to consume everything in creation. In the SCP mythos, that being is the Scarlet King, an elder god of immense strength. And within Marvel Comics, that entity is Oblivion, the true form of the multiversal destroyer called the Chaos King. Between these two titans of darkness, who would defeat the other in a battle that transcends the concepts of spacetime? Find out the answer to this and much more as I go over the lore, feats, and cosmologies within both fictional works!
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Who do you think wins? Team Scarlet King 🔴VS Team Oblivion ⚫
scarlet king 🔴
Scarlet king
Oblivion is literally nothingness and can therefore not be erased, and has never shown any limits
How powerful is SCP 5002 ?
the dark moon would've been a better matchup in my opinion
When you really think about it, Scarlet King probably wouldn't want to fight oblivion due to oblivion representing what Scarlet King wants pure nothingness
he will only fight him to kae his power and become nothing at all that is the sacrlet kings pupose taking his power will benefit him.
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Can he actually take Oblivions powers? Different characters act differently, and because of how Oblivion works, it seems like a 50/50 on whether or not Scarlett King can actually sap any of his power.
@@JimmyPizzaDelivery Well, SK did take Pattern Screamers powers, so..
How do you take the power of someone who is the literal concept of nothingness?
By all definitions there would be nothing to take and also nothing to fight
@@TheScarletSlayerthat makes sense
I love how SCP writers write their stories while thinking "how can I make my character as busted as physically posible?"
Marvel and DC writers are as guilty
Yes but we SCP people do it as a hobby and cuz we have nothing better to do
@@angelfigueroa1810 😂 Nice!!
@@angelfigueroa1810more like those kid whi wabt their own characters to win abd make them strong.
@@Rikohang "kids", nice of you to assume the writers are kids. Read any of Billith's articles and come here tell me if a kid can think of any of that
I knew it was over the second bro pulled out the theoretical numbers 💀💀
*"Having overwhelming power, is kind of boring actually."*
- Saitama
I don't think these entities have a concept of boredom. I mean, they might re-evaluate their life if they did
@@redjirachi1 Could they, though?
Imagine a situation a sit down where saitama, oblivion and the scarlet king just have a therapy session
Scarlet king is cooked😭
@@alexanderlor1945 problem is it wouldnt help: bcoz there are no universe/dimension that could hold SK's presence so they gotta do it in universe prime or smth like this but i dont think saitama would get there even with their help
Other power-scaling TH-camrs: Who would win? (This guy) or (That guy)? Watch to find out!
Chuck right from the thumbnail: I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, (this guy) kicks (that guy)'s ass no bullshit, let me tell you why.
Yea oblivion is overrated
in 2026. Man will make a wallpaper, image, photo, picture, etc for youtube that is coming?
I just listened to it and I didn't hear him mention those exact words or even who was obviously more powerful (Scarlet King utterly curbstomps Marvel in its entirety with negative effort)
"He gets a train run on him." -Chuck, mocking the current standings of Powerscaling TH-cam
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki correction. *most of marvel*
Didn't know powerscaling was a maths lesson. Great vid.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You need it to scale outerverse characters.
@@Chuck How does scarlet king attack something that is non existence, the only form he has is a illusion which is why he is untouchable and unkillable.
"If you see Scarlet King you're already dead🎅🎅🎅🦀💸"
Ho ho ho meow
IDK Sterling
Superman: I highly Doubt that
IdkSterling Gyatt
@@TheSuperboy_Prime😂😂😂😂bro did not just bring that 682 victim up
Oblivion is already dead, he just doesn’t know it.🎅🐡💵
Bro was tagged yet again 😭🤫🧏♂️
🦀🦀 money money
would oblivion fight scarlet king for 1 million dollars ?🎅😼
Let me guess, idk Sterling 💀
Ho ho ho
The crazy thing is The Scarlet King is not even the strongest in the SCP mythos
it the scp chair
Isn't 343 cannonically stronger than him?
@@ajarofpickles2826I mean, there are stories where he's actually just God, but there are also plenty of stories where he's not.
In the ones where he is God, he prob could take on abstract scarlet king, though if i'm being completely honest at that level of power you can easily wank either of them to the level where either could win.
@@ajarofpickles2826well if you follow the CN branch SK he is top 1 strongest
@@ajarofpickles2826no 343 being god is questionable, sk has not feats and is more consistent
I have been very curious about this match up ever since the poll. Glad to see you cover it in more detail.
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@Chuck What is the strongest SCP
@@MATI640 It's probably still either 3812 or 2747 unless I missed out on something.
@@Legend-Of-The-SunYou could say Swans
Tell me, A video of male with long straight black wig with bangs is coming for youtube?
I guess after 4 years since the video when the Scarlet King defeated Chaos King then Oblivion thought it was about time he faced the Scarlet King and awesome video Chuck.
Is madame web like spiderman?
@@WerewolfVampireRobot Kinda
@@WerewolfVampireRobotyeah she is a part of the spider verse but not actually Peter Parker.
@@WerewolfVampireRobotshe's like Spiderman in the sense that she has vague spider powers and is associated with Spiderman (I.E. has spider related name) but that is about where it ends, the movie is just fundamentally different and one of the if not the biggest disaster this year and its only just started.
The problem is that there is no set cannon for the SCP universe, in some stories, the scarlet king is the strongest of the old gods (which consist of beings like Yaldabaoth, Mekhane, and the hanged king) while in others he is able to defeat the high elder gods which are supposed to be the strongest beings in the SCP multiverse.
True that's why he use different versions I would say for the high elder gods it depends on what variation truly is being used cuz normally he is regarded to be below them or at least around their level of the high elders with the exceptions of brother's death that scp-2747
i mean by this point there are dozens of tiers of beings stronger than the high elder gods in the scp fandom soooo
There is one of the scp who jumped through fiction to the layer above, checks it out if he doesn't like it, destroys it, and goes up again. It is the constant chase of the author or our reality, which is weirdly weird
Scp writers were those kids on the playground that said "my character beats yours because!" And "nuh uh my character wins".
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In 2026, Man will make a fan film, fan animation, fan game, music video, etc for youtube that is coming?
Lmao cope
@@eluclid cope what?
@@kaiokentimes00 everytime an scp wins these type of debates, the comments are filled with "bad character, trash fandom, etc" and I think it's just cope
Only guy who does real Scp scaling content. U are a treasure man,
Appreciate you!
im glad you had dived deep into scp and were able to accurately represent just how massive the verse is awesome video as always
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Chuckman i had to watch it twice to understand it. But anyway, where are we in all of that existence architecture?
@jetragnarok2075 Technically speaking, there are infinite layers of Narrative both above and below "us," but to say that we'd be "mid" would be... not right... it's *_very_* complicated...
True. Pata-physics and metaphysics are not only not the same, they are an unreachable distance away from each other.
It’s pretty funny how similar Scp and comic writers are when you compare them, they both use absolutely ridiculous feats and scaling to nail home the fact that their new villain is a huge threat, I’m just happy that the majority of even these crazy stories manage to tell compelling narratives
SK has pretty good stories most of the time, but the downside is they just buff him and buff him each time. 999 still solos the Scarlet King btw.
of course, it's dumb when you look at it, though power sacling. The Scarlet King is a cosmic horror monster he can do all of the crazy shit because you're not supposed to fight him. It goes against the entire concept of his story
The SCP foundation is literally a fandom made for fan creations. It's perfect for anyone to just go in and add their own "original characters." It's basically a pre-built world where you can incorporate your own thing to it. Most people go there, because they probably couldn't make up an overpowered character without being like: "OMG MY MADE UP GUY IS SUPER OP!! HE IS LITERALLY GOD AND MADE EVERYTHING INCLUDING ALL OF FICTION!!!!111 HIS BACKSTORY IS SUPER TRAGIC TOO!" Like, every single one of those authors are ridiculously high on their minds.
@@RealSherlockHolmes I think its standards are higher than that, which are you referring to?
@@RealSherlockHolmesMy dude, do you understand how it works at all?
It’s not a marvel comics video if Chuck doesn’t bring up Odin’s battle with Seth. W video king 💪
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@@Chuck I like that even with all the pedo shit and abuse Seth has done to you and everyone that you still respect his ability to powerscale as well as his knowledge of how powerscaling works with different fandoms.
Tbh I unsubscribed from Seth due to everything that happened and dont like him anymore.
I still respect his ability to powerscale and knowledge, but i don't respect him as a person.
Anyways I enjoyed your video and cant wait for more.
((Btw the Seth i was talking about and the one i think you mentioned is Setheprogrammer)).
Madame Web or Wednesday Addams?
@@theghostoftheuchiha1999 I was talking about the Egyptian god Seth from Marvel comics
Seth sux
"Everybody gangsta until Steve use /kill @e in the Patasphere 🎅🎅🎅🐡🥕"
That isn't even how it works
/kill @@tester8365
@@tester8365 no, @e would work, it would kill everything.
@@nicholas-dv1mg does it kill blocks?
@@tester8365 no, but it would kill everything in and on it.
The Scarlet King’s ability to reach a universe depends on the knowledge that people there have of him. If nobody knows of him (or enough about him) in this universe, then he can’t cross through and end us. However, if I understood correctly, Oblivion doesn’t have such restrictions, so he is probably more powerful.
Here is the problem with this; there's always permanence (in the form of paragons a hard to describe concept) which knows him. Whats also not covered is how scp writers like Djkaktus write gods. Djkaktus writes gods as above inevitability by baseline concepts and scaling them is irrelevant to its eventual outcome despite narrative. Oblivion is exo-multiversal but never truely uncountabley anti-narratival as narrative exists (of the first firmament) so Oblivion is moreso a hyperconcept. SK being an aspect of defiance of "IS" makes him extraconceptual. Restriction is relative
@@velnz5475 I’m not a native anglophone so I’m not sure I got all that right but I still stand by my initial comment anyway.
@@ETOILEPHANTOME in otherwords; narrative transcends Oblivion as its an aspect of those which write it (Oblivion still finds itself within the bounds of something even if its outside the multiverse). The Scarlet King is always there (exo-narrative), his process of consuming a narrative is not dependent on if something or someone knows it as there is *always* something or someone who knows it outside the narrative. What should be noted is the Scarlet King's consumption of a narrative is only sped up by knowledge of it.
The difference is analogous to Oblivion being all possible endings of all stories while Scarlet King is killing all which makes stories possible. Those in the story or who make the story possible occasionally accidentally see the Scarlet King and thus speed up that process. Subtle difference, but one is clearly a step above the other.
@@velnz5475 it’s not sped up but allowed by knowledge of it. He need to be there to consume it, otherwise, he can only influence it in a limited manner
3:31 I have never heard someone pronounce “Know-A-Sphere” as “New Sphere” but honestly made me as a big SCP dork chuckle thanks for the giggle 👍
lol I thought it was pronounced that way 😭
Amazing video as always, agree with the outcome but only because you didn't use wengwan's plus any placeholder models for scp. That would've kinda rigged it in scp's favor to no end.
Chuckster as always super goated for covering VS match ups with comic characters and scaling them adequately 🙏🏻
Thank you so much!
Hey Chuck I know you won't respond back but can you do a power scaling video on Zalgo from Creepypasta?
PS he's very downplayed alot @@Chuck
To prove this point more Oblivion was shown in the new Gods comic series to be basically the other half of the Living Tribunal and likely equal to him.
Honestly I think a video on your personal opinions on “how to write effective cosmology” would be interesting. With as much as you talk about it, I’d be really curious to hear your side of things. 10/10 as always
Great suggestion! And thanks!
Oh this sounds intresting yay.
What about THE ANTI-MONITOR VS THE CHAOS KING ( DC vs Marvel ) ?.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
Thanks ❤
Chaos King stomps
Chaos king stomps fiction according to many people so I don't see the point of doing any vs
@@franciscoOrellana29and yet he is fodder to Oblivion.
@@VoxTheUkrainianComradenot even close, anti monitor stomps
I think it would be interesting too see Chuck powerscale the different SCP canons or MTF squads
MTF squads have the same scp cosmology so yeah they're also overpowered
Was checking if you uploaded just yesterday! Thanks for uploading, especially on such an interesting concept
Thank you for watching!
Chuck still doing Gods work, thanks for the constant research and video editing 🙏.
Thanks for watching!
I was excited to see this matchup uploaded, it reminded of whenever you did the Scarlet King 🆚 Chaos King a few years back! Keep up the great work! I was wondering if you would do a versus matchup between Goku Black 🆚 Hades (from Saint Seiya)? Not many people talk or know about Hades and I’d like to see you do a power scale on him too!
I'm certain Chuck already knows. Akira Toriyama, creator of Dragon Ball, have passed away on March 1st. Rest in peace.
RIP
🫡Im forever here for SCP vids. Also first
Thanks for watching!
@@Chuckso wait the first letter of my lengaudge alphabat aka א is used to caculate some of the highest forms of numbers? Also great vidio
Another banger video. Well done, Chuck!
I appreciate that
The reason why I hate SCP power scaling is because it requires understanding mathematics
Very well done, ill love if chuck do us a reading/narration of a scp stories, to give a little diversity.
Thanks for watching!
For franchises replete with omnicidal maniacs that do double duty as gods or cosmic beings, there's shockingly little examples of said cosmic destroyers teaming up. Imagine how boned the heroes would be if Knull broke Amatsu-Mikaboshi out of his prison or the Anti-Monitor and Barbatos collabed with dark anti-matter
thanks Chuck, been waiting for this for a while now
Hope you like it!
@@Chuck Ofc I did
i love how u added ultraman zero in this video lol nice one chuck! didn't know you were into ultraman
Yes I am!
that's so awesome! all the ultraman are pretty powerful too
The best explanation of Gojo's infinity. 10/10
At this point i think the only person in marvel who can stand up to him is TOAA
I hope we see more Overpowered Characters from Non-western - Southeast Asian, Latin American, Afrofurutist, Middle Eastern, Polynesian-inspired and Indigenous Futuristic/Australian Aboriginal Fantasy & Sci-fi stories tbh.
Same
Honestly, this is looking really good.
Thank you!
I remember playing rock paper sissors as a kid in the 90's when someone threw dynamite into the mix...then waterfall...then lightning...this reminds me of that.
But I mean that's a good memory and all but it's not like that dang
Someone should create an SCP on which language is weaponized e.g. a dialect of a language can be used to kill others or maim others for example. Or to even create invulnerable conceptual defenses.
I think that falls under the "memetics" category
You can also Get scp much higher than this using the statements in the tale "a journey through the afterlife"
Also Great video Dude
What’s said there?
@@Chuckbasiclly its said that the universe(or the Garden of eden) is just a shadow of plato's world of forms which it itself is a shadow of the First afterlife and there is a infinite number of afterlives each one seeing the one below them the same way plato's world of forms sees the Garden of eden(a shadow) and All of them are just the outer-shell of the infosphere and beyond this is the domain of Gods were the true form of the scarlet king exists
@@MeetrandomtimesHis Infosphere is different from PIB Model's sphere lol
@@tester8365scp-6659 is linked to this tho
I see, thank you!
I remember when SCP is just about weird creatures with weird superpowers.
Now writers are just like "My SCP can blow up galaxies and crush multiverse"
Not really but you keep thinking that I guess
Honestly I think that’s what makes SCP so cool
There's still those old-classic SCPs being produce, just not that popular
there's kinda both now
My brain just died (i feel chuck has ascended multiple levels of reality i couldnt understand one word)
Ironically, I could follow this through an understanding of theoretical physics so this was really fun to watch
Thanks for watching! I hope I explained it decently.
I think you did
Great job
This battle really is just
"My infinity is bigger then your infinity"
I’m ngl the constant additions to The scarlet king to make him more and more outrageous sounding and overpowered kinda gets boring
Funnily enough, The Constant itself isn't even SK, it's Anafabula in the form of the grand antagonist of SCP, Scarlet King
Who is Anafabula?, just curious thanks
He's so powerful yet he always seems to get defeated quite a bit too. How can something so powerful be defeated multiple times? Lol!
When does werewolves start on june 1 2024?
@@lazarolopez0603anafabula is an anti narrative scp, basically it destroys stories. It follows the hero or protagonist facing against the grand villain who has many horns and then everything glitches out and the story is censored from reality at least that's how it goes.
Great video again Chuck, even though I don’t really care for SCP stuff. Not really a fan of Fan Fiction in vs battles
The only incomprehensible thing is that math😭😭
people downplay the Marvel Cosmology so hard that it's almost ignorance
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It doesn't even scratch the surface of scp verse 😂
@xiongbreeze you haven't read a single comic in your life mf
@@xiongbreeze Marvel Comics > SCP no concept of diff.
Please talk about the Hanged King from the SCP multiverse.
I didnt understand a word that was said, but I enjoyed myself. Thanks. 😁
Scp writers:hmm lets go call up nasa for this new scp
Both of them one shot Fang Yuan + his verse beyond negative diff 🔥🔥🔥
Nope
Fang Yuan Solos DC And Marvel
Scarlet King One Shots Him With Negative Difficulty But Both Scarlet King And Fang Yuan Solo DC And Marvel
@@DarkkSorcerer as much as i love Fang Yuan he does not he wont even pass some of marvel causal super hero's like thor , silver surfer , sentry etc
@@user-ww9ww1pp2u Bruh
Max Comic Fankid 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Fang Yuan İs At Least High 1-A
Which İs More Than Enough For DC And Marvel
DC And Marvel Are Overwanked Fodders Bruh
Yeah Fang Yuan Solos Marvel And DC
Interesting how these beings keep claiming that they can effect the reader. When they can't. As big as they are in their continuity, they are moderately sized fish in a tiny pond. The readers and authors are far beyond them. Think about it. We create realities, multiverses, and all manner of horrors to afflict them. In my own dabbles into stories I have given birth to gods and heroes only to torture and destroy them all for my own amusement.
These beings exist as stray thoughts and burst of imagination to us. We are dimensions above them to the point of it being inconceivable. We are the third highest dimension of reality. Above us is the heavenly realm where the angels live. Above them is God. The being who created all things, is technically a reality unto himself, and is beyond even our comprehension. There is a theory that any world we imagine is actually real but is a lower dimension so we can see into it. Thinking about this then we can assume that the SCP multiverse is real. Also because we have seen universes where there are beings that can travel the multiverse, then some must have come to our reality.
So one might assume that we should be doomed because some of these beings are NOT friendly. Such as the Lovecraft mythos and the SCP multiverse. The thing is while we can perceive the lower levels of the multiverse it does not work the opposite. We are aware of higher plains of existence but we can't actually perceive them or affect them. That is because we are less than them and so it is with these beings of cosmic entropy.
You want to see what would be the most powerful SCP that would body the Scarlet King? Look in the mirror.
Weirdly enough. You're not wrong. Scaling wise it would go to SCP-3812 and the creatures that exist in the other worlds. But you're not wrong about us being above them as they express multiple times that the readers are above even the powers of the authors. So yeah, because the authors are us so thus we can do what they can do but on our greater level cuz we're not restricted. It's honestly really weird. I think even the comics they've done this
Damn haven’t heard of Oblivion n only a bit of Scarlet king gotta be a good one great work amazing work ethic G
Thanks for watching!
Great video.
Thanks for the visit
He gets one-shot by Goku lol
Fax
Your mom gonna get one shot with deeznuts
SCP is the ultimate endpoint of all those early to late 2000s-era Deviantart fanfic writers who wanted to always have their OC be the strongest out there and so on, just put into one room and trying to have a ego-measuring contest on who's sooper speshul god character was going to give the others a massive swirly by the end....and it continuing long after it got past the point of that one Power Man comic that existed to be the ultimate nofunallowed being in existence.
Not all of SCP is like this bruh. Yeah they are op as hell but there’s some AMAZING stories out there and a lot of the op stuff comes from the scaling community.
Only 10% of the SCPs in the verse are overpowered
Wasn't that Power Man comic the one where God-God man was introduced who was above Transduality and Paradox??
SCP has bad writing propoganda will never end, y'all asses didn't even touch a single DJKaktus document
@@KannaTheGamer Fr I am starting to see more and more people say this but when I ask them about SCP-5000 they don’t know what it is🤣
Oblivion: I am infinite darkness.
Scarlet King: I am infinite darkness + 1.
Oblivion: _Goddamn he's good._
No matter how far you scale in comics. You're not beating a Fanfiction verse that works directly with the Tiering system
I feel like people need to find out what it means to be a community-based world rather than calling it fan fiction
So basically who wins? An actual comic book character or someones poorly written OC that they made purely so they can say their character is the strongest?
I feel like you don't understand how the scraps work dude are you dead ass serious?
@@madvortex39womp womp
@@madvortex39 SCP is a bunch of lonely nerds having an online contest for who can make the edgiest and most overpowered BS possible. That's it. It has no consistent or quantifiable lore cause it's not a real franchise or fictional property. It's just a bunch of overgrown children doing the online equivalent of "Nuh uh you can't hit me because I have the super duper ultimate forcefield!" SCP-4999's the only interesting one I've ever seen that wasn't just edgelord slop or a shitty power fantasy.
@@commanderclown8620 okay for one they do actually have merchandise And an official site that does have authors as well as admins that do monitor and control The entire fandom official site anything connected to them is usually brought back to them like merchandise and they do have official novels as well with all of the material of a good amount of the SCPs
@@commanderclown8620 also a majority of those so-called edgy losers are people who are fully grown adults who either have actual degrees as well as gone to college or people who have a good amount of writing experience in making stories. Not have mention a lot of these people don't even try to make overpowered characters even though they're overpowered. That's off of scaling not just because oh someone decided to. Most of the people as well as the SCPs are focused on writing and making good stories. Not to mention the lore is sort of its own thing. It's not like Marvel and DC. It's still Canon. Just nothing on the site. Has no Canon ending or story or one major one to focus on. It's more like them just having a multiverse.
You’re kind of missing what Oblivion is… if the scarlet kings goal is the end of everything. His goal is Oblivion. The conclusion this comes to is backwards xD
Not technically because the scarlet King once existed before creation. So it's not far off saying he could stay like that and even then he could end oblivion too cuz he's ended entities that represented the concept of nothing He's not really missing the point. I mean he kind of explained it pretty well
@@madvortex39 There’s a problem with wanting everything and everyone to be gone, he is still a part of existence and he would have to destroy himself if he truly wants oblivion/void
@@RavenGamingOverLord The problem is he's already been like that before in one of the stories. He did complete his goal but he still existed even while being non-existent. Keep in mind he's related to 682 who can do a similar feat
“You are strong child. But I am beyond strength. I am the end”.
Love your not close or fair vids!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Im not aware of SCP lore a lot about the scarlet king so i gotta ask: if he can do ALL of this, why hasn't he? And if he has done so, why hasnt he done it earlier? Is someone/thing holding him back or will he never live to see his goal come to fruition because he is technically 'something'?
Let’s just say that the Scarlet King is _not_ the strongest in the SCPverse, for all his power.
He got hoe’d by seven warriors and the brothers Death
He's one of several in his "pantheon," I guess, and they aren't keen on his behavior. Also, much of his power seems to stem from how collectively aware beings in a given reality are of him. The more who can see him, the more power he can leech, and the more influence he can exert.
SCP Foundation anime will go super hard 🔥
Bro imagine if someone makes an SCP Horror movie🔥🔥🔥
@@fogwzu1939they'd focus on the more realistic aspects such as SCP 173 and 682 Base etc.... they would also extremely weaken the monsters so that they can be killed and contained and if it's made by big budget Hollywood then they'd add some Mary Sue or something thst can solo thr SCP Foundation. They'd probably also make the Foundation idiots and accidentally set all the monsters loose or something. Honestly there's heaps of ways they'll mess it up and they'll never add thr stuff that transcends Dimensions, Concepts, Achetypes etc... that's too hard for thr average person to grasp.
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiwouldn't that be a bad movie then because I'm pretty sure scp can only contain them not kill sum scp also roam around scp foundation if it's not deadly or it can help them but they can't contain like scarlet king or any powerful being but they can prevent them from entering there world
@@xiongbreeze yes that's my point, if Hollywood were to make a live action SCP movie then they'd 100% make a bad movie. Have you not heard of the countless piles of dogshit that have been released over the Years??
I would love to see an SCP anime so bad ^^
Kharakh also fathered other scps like that "Demon Born of War" scp or that "Heart of Darkness scp", there's also hints that the "infinite stairwell" scp entity may all be one of the 7.
Chuck Can you do movie characters and lower tier character comparisons and breakdowns
Like Lucy Miller , Eddie morra , Ozymandias , etc
SCP writers have an excuse to make their characters weirdly powerful
Marvel, DC instead of writing good stories do this bulls*it
I mean both have good writing in their own way
Sup Chuck, another good Scarlet King DUB in my opinion.
Thanks for watching!
Remember when SCP writers just wrote weird things just cause they want to write weird things, and not "Nuh-uh! My character will totally beat your character cause he's like a bajillion times stronger!"?
Good times...
Even the original overpowered ones were made in the vacuum of "this is just part of the worldbuilding, and justifies the Foundation's existence and mindset"
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It honestly feels like battle debaters have infected the site at some point, as now they have a playground where their OC is accepted, and all they have to do is fluff a pseudo-scientific paper to justify its existence.
I don't want to read about SCP-BALLSMASHER that's infinite dimensions, and can totally transcend fiction to smash your balls in the real world. Especially since it's still bullshit, as no matter how "transcends fiction" your character is, it's still not a threat to the real world. It still cannot affect the real world. It is still fiction no matter how well or how detailed you write it.
The only one close enough to do that is, surprisingly enough, Slender Man. He caused a child's attempted murder. He's the actual reason why that terrible thing happened.
What _Super Evil Omnipotent Above-Fiction Entity_ in SCP has done that?
Ooooooh this is gonna be good actually
Can we get a scp verse vs cathulu mythos video chuck? I been asking this for like a year
Wich cosmolgy is bigger Chuck?
H.P lovecraft or SCP?
Also can you do a video about Ben 10 cosmolgy?
Hp lovecraft yog sothoth is literally locked outside of existence
SCP has a bigger cosmology. Second only to WOD.
I can answer a baseline for ben 10 cosmology, it has a bare minimum 15 spacial dimensions (based in irl scientific theory not scaling) judging by UAF, and with some stuff from writers, statements by higher dimensional beings appearing, some other stuff too, including a certain fact people ignore but is canon, the Ben cosmology scales roughly too a high complex outerversal construct give or take some stuff from UAF that may make it higher or lower, and with the factor of the ben 10 cosmology is connected to all CN cosmologies at once (thanks a lot uncle grandpa and OkKo for making me have to calc over 400 shows), and if you really want something to think about, the scan function of the omnitrix would work on any other god from lovecraft, the scarlet king, most of DC and marvels cosmological beings including celestials and lucifer, the doctor, and the weaver, ben could very much just be way stronger when including this function.
7 Expansion is bigger
Lol the Scarlett King couldn't even get past the gate guardian
You do know that he was a weaker entity at the time. Remember he was still rising up in power during the time he tried that and even then there would only really up scale the gate guardian
@@madvortex39you are so invested you are damn near every reply
@@lowdopamine1619 Well yeah at the same time this is kind of just fun
@@madvortex39 you’re right I’m sorry
@@lowdopamine1619 it's all right man. At the same time it's also just like I guess trying to correct people because there are so many people that just think about scps completely wrong
Dude! This is awesome! Great work. I would love to know your thoughts on The Guardians from Destiny games. I've heard that there Outerversal as well from lore feats & other scalers.
I'll check it out!
SK lost when you said lord of abyss😂😂
scarlet king cn branch is overkill for marvel
No.
Omniverse Marvel >>>>> SCP Cosmology.
@@DrFate.😐
@@Wooden_Ship_form_Minecraftdont worry mate he is prolly faded
Just made a character named richard wich his powers are: "stronger than scarlet king in every aspect" boom easy as that
A lot of people say stuff like this, but it’s not simple to write these SCPs or have them be accepted.
Now I can some what understand SCP 3812 ability to continuously transcend.
Would be fun if the writers settle it with 4oz gloves in streetbeefs, like that time Uwe Boll did boxing
Oblivion is more like the Brothers Death than the Scarlet King.
Edit: SCP is not bigger in cosmology than marvel though. I see this with a lot of franchises, where the universe with more detailed explanation is stated to be 'bigger' and 'stronger' despite the conclusion of both being the same. Both SCP and Marvel have reached Boundless, True Abstraction levels of existence in terms of cosmology, they just explain it differently, with SCP taking an excessively convoluted route.
Noosphere contains inaccessible cardinals which already greatly surpass uncountable infinities within the multiverses. The Infosphere transcends the Noosphere greatly, arguably more so than Oblivion transcends the other abstracts. That’s not to mention that reaching the Alpha Layer is several layers above that too.
@@Chuck colourful words don't really change the facts. To begin with these characters exist in an endless void were numbers cease to have meaning.
What is your basis for comparing Info-Nosphere & Oblivion-Abstracts? The Alpha Layer literally has equivalents in most forms of fiction. White Hot Room, Over Monitor, WOD Heaven, Ultimate Void of Cthulhu Mythos, I could keep going but I'd be wasting my time. There is no basis for Oblivion being weaker than Scarlet other than arbitrary numerical assumptions that contradict the point of them being outerversal in the first place.
If your comparison was between the Chaos King & SK avatar then you could bring in the uncountable dimension argument bc both are clearly limited to hyperspace, but true form Oblivion & Scarlet are in the same sphere of power. To even suggest SCP has a "bigger universe" puts the whole idea of TOAA being the omnipotent writer Stan Lee (the Marvel version of Swanns Prop.) into question. Seriously? 😂
WHR isn't uncountably infinitely superior to the Outside though.
@@Chuck it doesn't have to be, because all of them are the Mystery. The thing that is literally called the Outside by the writers.
We have proof the Alpha Layer is several levels above the spheres and narratives. Nothing to prove WHR is transcendent by the same degree from the Outside.
SCP writers on their way to make up new mind-bending theoretical quantum philosophical metaphysical chiropractical concepts and then immediately say "yeah SCP 69-1234B's farts destroy it in 0.004 planck legnths."
I mean it's not like that always. They do have explanations of how they can do that and sometimes they just do it for the fun of it. Not all of them try to make those kinds of stories
Do a video about Demigra's new power after the UGM in SDBH 🙌
You should do an overview powerscale video of the guardians from destiny
Also Scarlet King:
*loses to the Power of Friendship*
SK: "You are weak, you are feeble, i can simply make it so your universe never existed..."
A random homeless person on the street: "I have beer to make me feel like shit in the morning i dont need to nagging me like my ex wife, besides you'd be doing a net-positive by removing this shithole"
SK: "I exist in every reality across every *alif!"
Oblivion: "I didn't ask..."
Really I mean I do know that he lost technically but he more like lost to weapons that was made to harm and kill him after getting nerfed
@@madvortex39 Which means he was never strong to begin with, if he was "made weaker." If he is a meta entity that exists outside of the writer sphere, but he can be "MADE WEAKER" by something from inside a lower sphere, he clearly isnt actually that powerful.
@@grimtygranule5125 Well, in the SCP world there are a few entities that can do this and keep in mind this was more of the elder god version of it not the More stronger variation of it that it was mentioned in the video
@@grimtygranule5125 He generally is that powerful? It's just people keep forgetting the version they're using. It's only the elder God version of it
This guy just delved into one of the most in-depth discussions of some of the most contrived metaphysics I've ever heard, over some fictional characters fighting. It was entertaining.
Glad you think so!
It literally took the 4th wall just to lock away NOT KILL lock away chaos king and thats just a fraction of oblivions power so he curbstomps scarlet king. Alongsids this scarlet kings powerscaling is impossible seeing as how the scp verse is composed of a bunch of authors having an ego battle about which kid on the playground can have the most op character thus giving me the ability to day scarlet king slipped on a cosmic banana and turned himself into a sandwich and erased his power from existence meaning oblivion negs
Okay for one. He just said basically an anomaly with that same capability did that and they are not considered to be that strong either The Scarlet King definitely curve stomps the chaos King. The fact that you think that all authors have an ego battle it's kind of ridiculous. You do know that SCP authors don't like power scaling at all? Them being very overpowered is just the result of writing. It's like with DC or Marvel none of them think about making their characters broken. They just do something that makes them like that
could happen depending on the canon technically he got defeated by a cake that nullified his powers. But this was used and amplified by a warrior that was made to take him down So....
@madvortex39 it kinds feels like how kids on playgrounds say "no my characters stronger because x"
@@chunkycheese2564 I mean that's how battles battles generally work when you compare. One of another character is just now in more details and you actually have a reason as to why rather than just something be made up in your head
For real!
Can you make a continuation on this video, video about Cosmic Armor Superman and SCP 3812?
Ohh ok I was wondering why i thought I've seen this video last year, I was thinking of the Scarlet King vs Chaos King one not this once
Both SCP and Marvel are definitely insane
SCP Is Overpowered But Marvel Is Not
Comics Are Overwanked And Fodder
@@DarkkSorcererWait until you hear about the fodder known as Fang Yuan then you'll see overwanked and fodder
@@DeathAssasin57 Comic Fankid Spotted 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Fang Yuan Is Absolutely Overpowered
He Solos DC And Marvel Bruh
Comics Are Overwanked And Fodder Cope Harder And Cry More
Any Hadou God,Scarlet King And Fang Yuan Can Solo DC And Marvel Without Any Difficulty
@@DarkkSorcerer Cringe Yuan is fodder 💀💀💀 he gets clapped
@@DarkkSorcerer Lemme guess you’re 12? Marvel logically has more feats than SCP, as most of it is copypaste and overwankedntrash.
It's funny seeing writers come up with fictional characters who say they could affect their creators and the audience. Like, are you that desperate to come up with something so OP that you'd sacrifice your integrity as an author, only to come up with an assertion that's so blatantly false? Every '4th wall' or 'meta-breaker' is ultimately unable to leave their narrative and fictional jurisdiction; sorry if that's a hard pill to swallow.
How is that? Very desperate considering every OP thing that characters have throughout fiction are basically the same. Half of the time they do reference at the authors that they take down are either metaphysical of themselves or they make it at the actual authors. Never even took damage. At the same time you have to understand. Everyone knows they cannot truly come out of their fictional walls since they are layers on those walls as well. If you're mad about this then maybe get on with the point of commenting
@@madvortex39 First off, I said "it's funny seeing writers...", not "it pisses me off seeing writers...". Second, not everyone accepts your second premise; there are people out there who truly think their OCs can influence the real world, and there are those who think that 4th Wall Breaking is a legitimate feat. Thirdly, why are you commenting on me bothering to comment about something when you yourself have bothered to comment about my presumed botheredness? What, are you the TH-cam Gatekeeper or something? Sorry, but you don't get to decide when and where others can/may express an opinion.
@@JushuaProvido high fair but secondly those people either are making jokes or generally in their own little world. No one in this whole thing thinks they actually do anything and technically it is a feat depending on what you're breaking and who you're facing in terms of how it's been shown. Is the reason why I despite of every character, whoever had a fourth wall break technically have different levels of power and stuff like that. And the reason is that while is your opinion, it's wrong opinion. And also I took that as more of an offense to the SCP world so you can ignore this if you want to
@@madvortex39 "...those people either are making jokes or generally in their own little world. No one in this whole thing thinks they actually do anything..." Even though you just contradicted yourself in that last bit, I am glad you've supported my initial statement in finding both situations humorous. That said, no, there are people who do sincerely believe their OCs can breach fictional barriers, be it via crossover into reality or other fictions.
Regardless, you're free to believe my opinion is wrong if you wish, despite your own opinion being wrong as well, and I thank you for keeping this discussion civil. Far too often internet debates devolve into ad hominem attacks and slurs.
@@08aaa81 hello child, what do you want to talk about?
i loved the metroid prime music that stated playing
Thanks for recognizing it
@@Chuck metroid prime is my childhood game. thank you for using the music.
Good video
Thank you so much!
Wait but didn't scp 999 at his full potential kill the scarlet king in his true form?
Where did you get that from?
@@carlosgarabatosferro883 from his lore or one of them at least.
@@Leviathan1000 999 won't kill SK "true form", he will just pacify SK, and no, SK doesn't have an actual "true form"
Nah, he’s just meant to subdue him.
@@Chuck ah okay know I remember reading it and it said he defeated him and imprisoned him. Talk about the son surpassing the father, lol 😆
I love your content Chuck, but I just DON'T get the appeal to a verse that, at this point, feels like its Overpowered simply for the sake for.
I know it's not that simple, I know there's a lot of hard work and effort put into this, but it's getting to the point that whenever I see an SCP in a vs battle, I almost always know who's going to win.
Add on the nature of the 'canonicity' of SCP, and the whole thing just becomes eyeroll worthy.
Maybe you should make a video about what the appeal to SCP is, because from my current perspective, it's honestly not a positive one.
There not those are just some of the more famous one that make it to TikTok’s and they only scale you know the more op ones but even still the op ones have some good stories
Most stories are actually well-written, but some people just make scps that are so op they could beat your mom with her belt easily. Some good scps are The Origami Dragon scp, 049, 173, 106, and 343. Some Scp tales have some of the best stories I've ever seen, some are just horrible.
Just read the Djoric or DJkaktus tales, those are pretty good. Placeholder has made A1 profiles too like 6747 and 6820.
@@Chuck Genuinely appreciate your response. I'll be sure to give it a look. Looking forward to more of your videos.
I enjoy a lot of the stories that address the subtle horror of being a mortal in a universe where incomprehensible horrors reside, and you're just a puppet waiting for your strings to be attached. The Trashfire (for which the Scarlet King is one of four major antagonistic forces trying to corrupt humanity through the perpetuation of extremism fascism) and LOLFoundation (a group of deluded reality benders decide to play "SCP researchers" with the rest of humanity as the world falls to ruin) are both good examples of this.
Both are very bleak but I enjoy the dark comedy sprinkled throughout. For other recommendation (assuming you're interested)
- DJKaktus is fantastic for dense but rewarding high fantasy/alternate history storylines (Ex: SCP-6500, and all of Project Paragon)
- I would personally recommend smaller Canons like Mundus Liberari (SCPF is a resistance force trying to end the UN's new "silent extermination" policy against anomalous creatures) or Insect Hell (kind of a "Grey Goo" scenario, where self-replicating locusts consume the world) if you want something less dense/more self-contained
-Unhuman ("normal" humans disappear, leaving the world in the hands of the anomalous) and Ninth World (the anomalous is at its most powerful, and everyone's rushing to collect a series of artifacts that will let them "build paradise") are really good if you like urban fantasy/Sci-fi, and When Day Breaks if you like straight-up apocalyptic body horror (the sun goes wrong, and everyone suffers for it).