Watching your videos are very educational. Went to my local archery shop and talked about FOC and now string center and they said none of that matters but the proof is literally in your videos. Thanks
Thanks brother for educating us. I am new to bow hunting, but as a former sniper when i found your videos it made total sense as that is what we do with bullet coefficient to make the perfect round for your rifle. Cant wait for my test kit to arrive so i can create the most lethal and ethical arrow for my bow.
Bare shaft tuning is next level. Just be prepared to get aggravated. But its so satisfying when your done. I have nothing but confidence in my arrows if I shoot at a deer im hitting it square.
@RanchFairy wow, how did you know I was fighting with my form. I would get a bullet hole next shot, which would look like a banana went thru. Turned out it was me. Bareshaft paper tuning if you commit to it will tech you a lot. You the only person I've ever seen reply to there people. Thanks, respect 🙏
I have been lineing up center of bow wheels with string to center of rest for years so many people think iam crazy untill the arrows fly straight i agree with you 100%glad to see a video that explains it in great detail
Hey, from down in New Zealand just wanted to say thanks this really got my broadhead problems pulled right into my field points like 2 inches at 40 yards and wanted to say thanks for helping solve my headache
I am an engineer and archer. I love your content because it’s correct and mindful of the context of archery..... which is primarily a weapon designed to kill things. I live in the UK where bow hunting is illegal, but I still target shoot with hunting in mind.... because that’s what a bow is for. I would never usefully or ethically have to hit a target accurately at more than 25yards range. If I didn’t have to hit a target further away, Id do it with a longbow and a bunch of friends..... which is also why I clout shoot. Keep the content coming 👏🏻
Man, I have really come to Enjoy the heck out of your Videos and teaching. You bring a smile to my face, and joy to my archery experience! Lol! I spent like 4 hours on tuning today. KEY...NOT rocket science! don't freak yer self out! Tuned my bare shafts just like you say, with great success! Thank You, Man! My confidence has gone way up, with my arrows. Christ Bless!
Hey man, just an average archer here, just wanting to say that yup, this video was indeed really helpful. Today, started working on dialing in my arrows with GT 100gr. brass inserts. Plus 50gr. GT insert weight with 125gr. Grizzer Stick Masaai's on the pointy end. Thanks again. -PE
Hey, I've been drinking the heavy, high FOC kool-aide for years and so has my daughter. GrizzlyStik gear is what we shoot and the animals in Africa don't like it. In South Texas, the other bowhunters think we're nuts, but we just keep doing our thing. To each their own. Love your channel.
I may not agree with how you do things but, It doesn't matter because it's about what works for you. It's always good to find a system for set up that will consistently work for you.
11 seasons shooting non-adult twizzlers. Killed over 90 deer. About 10 of those were fed to coyotes because of poor penetration. The only thing I tried to do differently was change my shot placement to get behind that shoulder and down. Not enough vital to limit their past shot travel distance and give me good blood. I'm going through a complete switch to adult arrows, bare shaft tuning, nock tuning, fletch tuning, heavier single bevel broadheads and aiming where my arrows will blow through their vital v and give me the Rut Daniels kill!
Ranch Fairy you are very entertaining and I love your attitude. I must be a goofy duck because I have been using 100 grain brass inserts and old style 150 grain broad heads that my fathers left behind. My arrows weight 255 grain with fletching and nock then my insert and tip are 250 grain so I am tad over 500 grain. Not sure brand of broad head but they look like palmer extremes and they will crash through bones unlike those rage things. Not sure how to figure out FOC but these arrows work and that's good enough for me. Shoulder bones don't stand a chance. Quit rages many years ago after a couple shoulder hits. Rages and bones don't go together good. I am almost out of the Palmer style so will need to find a replacement that doesn't break the bank. The Palmer style start getting rebellious @ 25 and by 35 its like we never knew each other. This is with extensive bare shaft tuning and great results. I alway keep one in my quiver when hunting tight woods, most shots under 20 yards. My golf bag also carries generic g5 style fixed 3 blades that I sharpen up and they will fly good out to 70 yards and beyond. @ 70 they are still really close to field points. I will say I tend to fall in the 5% you talk about as you can get a g2 bow press for under 50 bucks to yoke tune and or to use control cable tuning methods on hybrids which is what Pamela is. You have way more then 50 bucks into one arrow so small expenses and I like to change my own cables and strings, hate relying on shop 30 miles away. Keep the videos coming! Just ordered my sniper light for coyote hunting this fall in WI. Start practicing no peep night shooting next month to get ready. Backup bow is going full nocturnal!
So this post is helpful and encouraging for anyone who is planning to kill game animals this fall . I finally got a Bowtech compound Bow. Yup you guessed it! ! It’s set up with 30 inch arrows and 100 grain field points and I am going to go with it this fall . It will probably kill these tiny New York and Connecticut Deer 🦌 just fine.
Haven’t shot a bow since the 80’s. My uncle gifted me a his older PSE. I’ve been looking for a channel that explains this newer rest tuning. Thank You for an easy to understand explanation. Now I need to fugue out the head weight and arrows this bow can run. 60lb. draw weight from a 29” draw length.
Just did this bare shaft tuning in the target and through paper, showed just how "out" my bow was. i moved the rest until the bare shaft made a bullet hole in the paper. Now all of the broad heads i've ever bought shoot very close to field points; never had that happen before.
Great advice as usual. I just finished tuning. It wasn't quite as effortless as in your video because it ended up involving dropping my 60# Chill r to 55# and cutting my shafts to 27 3/4" to get 340 Beman ICS Hunters to tune with 125 grain point and 100 grain insert. The bare shaft now flies straight, and btw, my fletched arrows with field points group with the bare shaft as well. This gave me just over 19% FOC and 519 grains total. I probably should have gone to 300 spine shafts, but then I'd have had to deal with the finance committee and she had already decided that vinyl plank flooring in the basement was a higher priority. Perhaps next year I will invest in some 300s and make some adult arrows. ;-{) Thanks for keeping this stuff real. Like you, I'm a bow hunter. I shoot at targets to get ready for bow hunting. I want arrows that penetrate and broadheads that cut for quick, clean kills at ACTUAL hunting ranges, like 25 yards maximum, and 10 yards is way better! I like seeing the arrow stuck in the ground after it passes through my deer.
This is a great example of someone willing to try different adjustments, to get the BEST arrow flight. Move everything around until it shoots perfect. Nice
Definitely not the only guy who shoots linking logs for arrows, the grizzly stick guys do it as well. I have to say though, I've seen numerous guys like john Dudley, Levi morgan, and Jim burn worth taking shots over 50 yds and making great ethical shots because they were shooting a lighter weight, and by light weight I mean around 450 grains , flatter shooting arrow. One particular hunt that comes to mind is the man himself Bill Winke when he killed the 200inch g4 buck at 50 yds. Nothing wrong at all with shooting these heavy ass arrows for the sake of momentum and clean pass throughs but I think theres a happy medium where you can add some distance to your effective shooting distance by having a bit more speed and a flatter shooting arrow while still having more than enough momentum. Entertaining video though
Jordan Powell Until things don’t go right. Absolutely. You can shoot skeet loads and mechanicals - man, I am not saying they don’t work. Millions of animals wounded to death every year. I don’t plan for things to go perfect. One must also consider if you’ve ever seen a wounded and “we lost it” video.
I have enjoyed the struggle of bare shaft tuning. I’m definitely not perfect, but I have improved quite a bit. I have video taped every session which has been a good project.
Good video. Keep up the good work, I love watchin your videos. You're a killin machine. None of that made me roll over in my grave except your D loop and soft knock or should I say hard knock. Lol
I could be wrong.I’m wrong all of the time,lol ! From what I’m seeing,broadheads land in the same place as a bare shaft when everything is where it’s suppose to be with arrow rest adjustment and the arrow spine is correct. Would it be sensible to make the broadheads group with field points right from the start ? I can see where serious targets shooters that are using glued in points would have to bare shaft tune because they can’t get a broadhead on the arrow
I agree with you everybody seems to like Target nice round targets big rounds Target. I have a rotten hate but for stopping the arrows in case I miss and then I have a 6-inch cardboard tube that stands 6 feet tall and it was originally decor for a carpet I figure if I can put an arrow in the tube I've hit my target and occasionally I will wrap duct tape around the tube and shoot the duct tape. I started doing that when my grandfather looked at me and said why do you have such a big Target small targets means small misses and if you think of it that way you'll bring home to meet every time
Mate if you made dollars insted of scence you would be a god dam million air. Im a noobie 🙄👍 but you have my attention with your knowledge and experience 🤔! Subbed.
Thank you for the video this is very helpful! Just to clarify, if my bare shafts are hitting the solid target and the nock is angled to the left and low of the arrow tip (i.e. nock angled low and left of fletched arrows, am I raising the rest and moving the rest right to correct? The same as what I would be doing through paper?
Lol great video, I shoot heavy arrows, as well as shootn 50 plus yards because I live in muley land aka no trees, but feel shamed because I have a bow press. I just didn't want to be a screw driver guy, promise :)
You remind me of lunkers tv awesome attitude dude I love it tune it to you and you twitches that’s what I do I ahoot the same every time and it works for me but if someone else shoots my bow they can’t group for shit but I shoot and I group quarters
PimpDaddy Outdoors My apologies for making you more lethal. Please check out my bare shaft and nock tuning videos. If you need any help - troy@ranchfairy.com
C Price I have, they are fine. A bit hard to sharpen. If I’m gonna go that kind of direction, the Strickland’s helix is the winner. The 150 and 225 are 1 5/16” wide and that bowed out piece on the back. Nasty. They also fly great. All reports on Helix says the same thing. They can be hard to sharpen too. Get the sharpener
Great video,love your attitude 😆. Just want simple steps,tuning for hunting etc. I'm not a pro archer,I don't need all that other bullshit. Jus wanna kill stuff at 40yds and under
Just got into bow hunting trying this out for tuning my bow. Arrows are flying knock high and to the right. My whisker biscuit cant be adjusted anymore though. Any ideas?
Troy, thanks for posting this tutorial. I have 2 doz. 400 spine arrows from my expandable days , which I shoot out of a 59# pse. I want to shoot 200grn grizzlies single bevels which would put my arrow wt. at 490grns. Would this combination work or should I use a stiff shaft. Thanks for doing the homework.
j j 400’s are twizzlers - HA. Yes - get 300 spine - same brand and diameter as the 400’s. Two things: 1. You’re front loading the arrow - 200 grains - that’s straight forward 2. the longer and heavier point actually softens spine a bunch, the whole arrow is “longer”. Those grizzlies blow through critters!!!! Hit me on email if you have any more questions - happy to help. Troy@ranchfairy.com
Hey Troy. After bare shaft tuning with your test kit, wouldn't adding fletches throw off the FOC balance? And therefore cause vertical tears? Should more weight be added up front to account for the fletch weight in the back?
@@RanchFairy ok. Just a thought that crossed my mind. Got my TX5 shooting very well with the 175 grain points. Didnt do as well with 150s or 200s. It's been a finicky bow to play with. So ordered some fletched arrows of the same type from Sirius along with a bunch of 175 grain tips and got worried when I thought about the added weight of the vanes and glue to the rear of the arrow. I figured it would possibly have an adverse affect on the good combination that I have found
Ranch fairy. Do you recommend standard diameter shafts or the newer micro diameter stuff coming out. Supposedly the smaller shafts help with wind resistance and aid in deeper penetration. Just curious on your options
Yeah yeah. Wind resistance....hahaha - go shoot whatever you end up with in the wind and practice in the wind - then you know. Currently testing micros - mid diameter has been very very good.
Just finished bare tuning, fletching after the rib eye, shooting gold tip 300 velocity pro, 100gr inserts and 150 field points with 29 1/2 arrow at 72 lbs in the ballpark?
Country boy mentality, no nonsense tuning! I like it. That was a refreshing way to look at tuning. I'm a western hunter and have taken a lot of elk and deer well beyond 40 yards, but I've also hunted whitetails from ground blinds and tree stands. You can surely get wrapped up in all the bull shit rhetoric out there on tuning. Thanks for sharing!
landon lagree Yes you can. May the good Lord help you with the worst possible insert system ever designed. Easton didn’t do any favors, for bow hunters, with the HIT.
Ranch Fairy, question for you. Working on a 700 grain finished arrow weight, with 220 grain insert and 150 grain head. I went to bare shaft tune and arrow flies point heavy. I do shoot a drop away rest and I'm not sure if rest is falling away to fast for what the bow is pushing. Do I need to switch to static rest or try and adjust rest up? I shoot a 580 grain arrow normally for deer and it flies great bare shaft out of my bow.
David Binversie Arrow flies point down/tail high, is what I assume. Step 1 - rotate your nock 1/4 turn, shoot then 1/4 turn and shoot. That may do it. Every arrow needs to be nock tuned no matter Set up
@@RanchFairy Yes tail high. This is before I have any fletched up. These are just bare shafts right now. I wanted to see how they flew in case I needed to cut them down any before fletching them up. They look great left and right.
David Binversie Probably the rest. Mark zero on vertical (i usually scratch mine - sharpie works) so you can set it back. Then move it up and see how the arrows shoot. I bare shaft every individual arrow. Bare shaft tuning video coming up on 18th
If you're not horizontally paper tuned when the rest is centered on the shelf, shouldn't you make the appropriate yoke tune? Moving the rest only masks the problem.
Garand Well, 2 answers here. Yep, hole tuning is a way to do this. For the skilled and 100% all in bow press guys. The other 97-% of bowhunters need a solution. Second. When the arrow flies perfect, no feathers for 30, man that is a tune the 97% of bowhunters never achieve. So, you are correct, a bit, but most people won’t go through the effort. Trust me man, I’ve got the 3% guys and they tell me I am crazy, which is a fair comment.
Brandon Ziegler Prefect. I am trying to help the 95% of bowhunters who just want their broadheads to fly and kill stuff. The 2% who bother to have a press or yoke tune. They are on a different planet
Robert Harris I assume you mean fletched arrows? This is gonna sound like a smart ass answer. That means at 10 yards your arrows are going to hit at a left angle (even with fletched) and your best performance on meat will be at 30+ yards.
@@RanchFairyNo the shafts are still bare. I did shoot my old arrows that are fletched for a control and they group right there with them. The vertical spreads out because of the weight difference at a distance but at 25 and closer, they are in the same holes. I just remembered I need to number my arrows. Was so wrapped up in cutting 1/4" at a time that I forgot that step. Some shots are smooth all the way out. Some do that nock kick then straighten. Maybe it's only certain shafts and I can just put them to the side. 25, 30, 35 and 40 yards everything hits great. At 20 and closer, some are a bit nock left. Shooting a drop away and nothing is hitting the rest. BTW thanks for replying. Love the videos. They make me miss Texas a bit though.
@@apophisprime7135 AH!!! If some are perfect and some are misbehaving, you're golden, turn the nock on the bad kids. Literally rotated it 1/4 turn at a time. I have nock tuning videos on the channel. It's super magic consistency fairy dust....actually Big Mike "The Wizard" showed me that!!!!
So I am trying to build a heavier arrow with gold tips 7795 (.340) spine with a 30 inch draw and 67pound draw weight. I put a 100 grain insert with a 200 grain head and tried bareshaft tuning like your video shows. With this much weight on the front, i experienced tail whip. So i moved the rest 1/16 right and left and never could get that "kick" out of the flight. The slighted movement of the rest caused the tail in the opposite direction. I put on a 125 grain point and the arrow appeared to shoot straight with my original "tune." If I have an arrow that is questionably underspined for the amount of weight i want to put up front, is this a problem I am going to notice with the tail left and right effect as it comes out of the bow bare shafted?
Kyle Meier Outdoors Shaft is too soft - the lighter point is showing you that. Pretty standard. I’d jump to a .250 spine since your DL is long. Black Eagle spartan .001 is a killer option.
i checked Black Eagle out. Its hard to decide on an arrow. They all hype up their product so well. The only arrow that i have seen pass the "tough" test is the grizzly sticks and the black eagle with an aluminum footer thingy. They seem good. Maybe on my next arrow buy. Anyway, when I shot the heavy 200 grain with field points and broadheads, they shot with the similar POI. But with the 125 grain that shot identical with bareshafts, the broad head shot 2 low and 5 right. Go Figure:(.
Kyle Meier Outdoors I just happen to be shooting BE Spartan .001 - 250’s right now. I have 178 grain inserts 125 Broadheads. To run the weight up front and at your DL - definitely a 250. Flavor of arrow - yours to choose. I’ve shot 250’s with 300/350/400/700 up front. (That bishop 600 broadhead is awesome). They all bare shaft. It’s a fun game to play!!
is it easy to play with the insert weights on the Spartans without taking the original insert out by just screwing in more weigh to the back of the original insert? Is this the common practice with these arrows?
Kyle Meier Outdoors yes and yes. Get the wrench and the weights. It works great and you can tweak - a lot. I recommend a pack of 75 grainers and a pack of 30 grainers. That way you can tweak and shoot different distances to find optimal performance
I'm following your instructions and no matter what I do my arrows are tail right in the target. If I move the rest to the extreme right the group moves right but the arrows are still tail left same if I move it extreme left.
Rich Spitzlei Most of the time when this is the case / the bow itself is out of tune, cables stretched, etc. and it’s not running down the middle. My obsession is doing the same thing.
The bow is brand new and the pro shop paper tuned it shooting bullet holes with the same arrows but fletched. Bowtech SR6 @ 65 lbs 300 spine kinetic pierce with 200 gr broad heads and another 50 or so up front = 546 grs @ 19.5% foc. It's a tack driver when I shoot them fletched but not sure if the flight is perfect
My buddy thought i was crazy for building easton axis arrows with 75 grain inserts and 100 grain heads for a finished weight of 462 grains. Bow is quiet. And inside 30 yards it blows my 375 grain arrows away.
Shitty arrows led me here. Months later. Now I have 222 grains up front on a 550 grain arrow with a 30.5" draw length and I punch brush minimal deflection at 60yrds with a broadhead. WTF just happened.
great info buddy. Who gives a rats ass if your broadheads and bare shafts dont group together. once bow season gets here my arrows will not see another field point till March. Ranch fairy rocks
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Is there a video of someone doing the kit from start to finish? I think I understand the concept but I’m not sure. 250-300 spine then find the right front weight for your bare shaft then fletch and stick with that weight broadhead?
@@RanchFairy you’re awesome thanks for the link. So I will be buying your kit when I get the money but in the mean time I have a question. I have 12 new arrows that I don’t know much about other than they don’t make them anymore. They are 29” quest heavy ironwood tapered shafts. They are 11 gpi and a 300 spine. I’m not sure the exact insert size but could I use a 100 grain insert (if I ever find one) and my 125 heads to get the same results? Never used these tapered shafts. They are carbon shafts but I would assume the taper would be to help increase foc and reduce tail drag?
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Im so glad someone commented my exact thoughts haha
Watching your videos are very educational. Went to my local archery shop and talked about FOC and now string center and they said none of that matters but the proof is literally in your videos. Thanks
This dude could play the joker for a Batman movie. The most unique dude doing archery tutorials 😂😂
Gaffneydaniel92 thanks!!
Best bare shaft explanation I have ever heard. Most of the time you get "nock left, tail right" which no one can keep straight. Thanks.
You make it simple and you are honest without the bs. Keep up the good work.
Thanks brother for educating us. I am new to bow hunting, but as a former sniper when i found your videos it made total sense as that is what we do with bullet coefficient to make the perfect round for your rifle. Cant wait for my test kit to arrive so i can create the most lethal and ethical arrow for my bow.
Shhh - don’t tell anyone but different ammo shoots different....well, you can tell your friends. 😂 😛
Bare shaft tuning is next level. Just be prepared to get aggravated. But its so satisfying when your done. I have nothing but confidence in my arrows if I shoot at a deer im hitting it square.
Nothing like having your form exposed!!! But when you solve it. The arrows are lasers.
@RanchFairy wow, how did you know I was fighting with my form. I would get a bullet hole next shot, which would look like a banana went thru. Turned out it was me. Bareshaft paper tuning if you commit to it will tech you a lot. You the only person I've ever seen reply to there people. Thanks, respect 🙏
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I have been lineing up center of bow wheels with string to center of rest for years so many people think iam crazy untill the arrows fly straight i agree with you 100%glad to see a video that explains it in great detail
Hey, from down in New Zealand just wanted to say thanks this really got my broadhead problems pulled right into my field points like 2 inches at 40 yards and wanted to say thanks for helping solve my headache
4:50 This is golden!
I am an engineer and archer. I love your content because it’s correct and mindful of the context of archery..... which is primarily a weapon designed to kill things. I live in the UK where bow hunting is illegal, but I still target shoot with hunting in mind.... because that’s what a bow is for. I would never usefully or ethically have to hit a target accurately at more than 25yards range. If I didn’t have to hit a target further away, Id do it with a longbow and a bunch of friends..... which is also why I clout shoot. Keep the content coming 👏🏻
Man, I have really come to Enjoy the heck out of your Videos and teaching.
You bring a smile to my face, and joy to my archery experience! Lol!
I spent like 4 hours on tuning today. KEY...NOT rocket science! don't freak yer self out!
Tuned my bare shafts just like you say, with great success!
Thank You, Man! My confidence has gone way up, with my arrows.
Christ Bless!
Hey man, just an average archer here, just wanting to say that yup, this video was indeed really helpful. Today, started working on dialing in my arrows with GT 100gr. brass inserts. Plus 50gr. GT insert weight with 125gr. Grizzer Stick Masaai's on the pointy end. Thanks again. -PE
Another masterpiece from the RF. Killer advice all the way. Why you're not on TV is a dang mystery.
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Thank you. Tell the outdoor channel!!
Thanks man. I really appreciate your information and knowledge. We need more guys like yourself.
The Ranch Fairy helped me!
Great video. And it's not boring to watch someone shoot.
Hey, I've been drinking the heavy, high FOC kool-aide for years and so has my daughter. GrizzlyStik gear is what we shoot and the animals in Africa don't like it. In South Texas, the other bowhunters think we're nuts, but we just keep doing our thing. To each their own. Love your channel.
I may not agree with how you do things but, It doesn't matter because it's about what works for you. It's always good to find a system for set up that will consistently work for you.
man i've got a lot of work to do! Thanks, very informative, learning and trying to apply this to trad.
11 seasons shooting non-adult twizzlers. Killed over 90 deer. About 10 of those were fed to coyotes because of poor penetration. The only thing I tried to do differently was change my shot placement to get behind that shoulder and down. Not enough vital to limit their past shot travel distance and give me good blood. I'm going through a complete switch to adult arrows, bare shaft tuning, nock tuning, fletch tuning, heavier single bevel broadheads and aiming where my arrows will blow through their vital v and give me the Rut Daniels kill!
I've just been able to get back into bow hunting and your vids are awesome and helped me alot in tuning my bow
Glad I could help ya.
Thank you so much. So excited to do this with my bow.
Dude you’re a nut 😂 . Some good info here. Got a new subscriber!!!
Ranch Fairy you are very entertaining and I love your attitude. I must be a goofy duck because I have been using 100 grain brass inserts and old style 150 grain broad heads that my fathers left behind. My arrows weight 255 grain with fletching and nock then my insert and tip are 250 grain so I am tad over 500 grain. Not sure brand of broad head but they look like palmer extremes and they will crash through bones unlike those rage things. Not sure how to figure out FOC but these arrows work and that's good enough for me. Shoulder bones don't stand a chance. Quit rages many years ago after a couple shoulder hits. Rages and bones don't go together good. I am almost out of the Palmer style so will need to find a replacement that doesn't break the bank. The Palmer style start getting rebellious @ 25 and by 35 its like we never knew each other. This is with extensive bare shaft tuning and great results. I alway keep one in my quiver when hunting tight woods, most shots under 20 yards. My golf bag also carries generic g5 style fixed 3 blades that I sharpen up and they will fly good out to 70 yards and beyond. @ 70 they are still really close to field points. I will say I tend to fall in the 5% you talk about as you can get a g2 bow press for under 50 bucks to yoke tune and or to use control cable tuning methods on hybrids which is what Pamela is. You have way more then 50 bucks into one arrow so small expenses and I like to change my own cables and strings, hate relying on shop 30 miles away. Keep the videos coming! Just ordered my sniper light for coyote hunting this fall in WI. Start practicing no peep night shooting next month to get ready. Backup bow is going full nocturnal!
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Nice! One pin only. Darken it with a sharpie and barely scratch the black off - little pin hole on your pin.
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Hi there, Im from Australia, and I like this man. educator.
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Thank you. I’ve gotta get over there and chase those big buffs
Good stuff Troy!
So this post is helpful and encouraging for anyone who is planning to kill game animals this fall . I finally got a Bowtech compound Bow. Yup you guessed it! ! It’s set up with 30 inch arrows and 100 grain field points and I am going to go with it this fall . It will probably kill these tiny New York and Connecticut Deer 🦌 just fine.
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Great vid I’m sold
Haven’t shot a bow since the 80’s. My uncle gifted me a his older PSE. I’ve been looking for a channel that explains this newer rest tuning. Thank You for an easy to understand explanation. Now I need to fugue out the head weight and arrows this bow can run. 60lb. draw weight from a 29” draw length.
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@@RanchFairy would a 200gr single edge tuff head be too much?
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I’d go to 250 spine
Or reduce insert weight to 25 or 50 grains
Just did this bare shaft tuning in the target and through paper, showed just how "out" my bow was. i moved the rest until the bare shaft made a bullet hole in the paper. Now all of the broad heads i've ever bought shoot very close to field points; never had that happen before.
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Great advice as usual. I just finished tuning. It wasn't quite as effortless as in your video because it ended up involving dropping my 60# Chill r to 55# and cutting my shafts to 27 3/4" to get 340 Beman ICS Hunters to tune with 125 grain point and 100 grain insert. The bare shaft now flies straight, and btw, my fletched arrows with field points group with the bare shaft as well. This gave me just over 19% FOC and 519 grains total. I probably should have gone to 300 spine shafts, but then I'd have had to deal with the finance committee and she had already decided that vinyl plank flooring in the basement was a higher priority. Perhaps next year I will invest in some 300s and make some adult arrows. ;-{)
Thanks for keeping this stuff real. Like you, I'm a bow hunter. I shoot at targets to get ready for bow hunting. I want arrows that penetrate and broadheads that cut for quick, clean kills at ACTUAL hunting ranges, like 25 yards maximum, and 10 yards is way better! I like seeing the arrow stuck in the ground after it passes through my deer.
This is a great example of someone willing to try different adjustments, to get the BEST arrow flight. Move everything around until it shoots perfect. Nice
These vids awesome man. Love all the testing on your vids.
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Thanks - stay tuned. We are pressing forward!!!
Definitely not the only guy who shoots linking logs for arrows, the grizzly stick guys do it as well. I have to say though, I've seen numerous guys like john Dudley, Levi morgan, and Jim burn worth taking shots over 50 yds and making great ethical shots because they were shooting a lighter weight, and by light weight I mean around 450 grains , flatter shooting arrow. One particular hunt that comes to mind is the man himself Bill Winke when he killed the 200inch g4 buck at 50 yds. Nothing wrong at all with shooting these heavy ass arrows for the sake of momentum and clean pass throughs but I think theres a happy medium where you can add some distance to your effective shooting distance by having a bit more speed and a flatter shooting arrow while still having more than enough momentum. Entertaining video though
Jordan Powell
Until things don’t go right.
Absolutely. You can shoot skeet loads and mechanicals - man, I am not saying they don’t work. Millions of animals wounded to death every year.
I don’t plan for things to go perfect.
One must also consider if you’ve ever seen a wounded and “we lost it” video.
This dude is hysterical 😂😂
I have enjoyed the struggle of bare shaft tuning. I’m definitely not perfect, but I have improved quite a bit. I have video taped every session which has been a good project.
Good video. Keep up the good work, I love watchin your videos. You're a killin machine. None of that made me roll over in my grave except your D loop and soft knock or should I say hard knock. Lol
I could be wrong.I’m wrong all of the time,lol !
From what I’m seeing,broadheads land in the same place as a bare shaft when everything is where it’s suppose to be with arrow rest adjustment and the arrow spine is correct.
Would it be sensible to make the broadheads group with field points right from the start ?
I can see where serious targets shooters that are using glued in points would have to bare shaft tune because they can’t get a broadhead on the arrow
I agree with you everybody seems to like Target nice round targets big rounds Target. I have a rotten hate but for stopping the arrows in case I miss and then I have a 6-inch cardboard tube that stands 6 feet tall and it was originally decor for a carpet I figure if I can put an arrow in the tube I've hit my target and occasionally I will wrap duct tape around the tube and shoot the duct tape. I started doing that when my grandfather looked at me and said why do you have such a big Target small targets means small misses and if you think of it that way you'll bring home to meet every time
Love the a&a fletch
Jack Buendgen
One of my favorites
2:32 hahaha those guys drive me insane!
Well done!
Michael Middleton TBH
Thanks for watching
2:33 is classic 😂😂😂
So when you tune do you try keeping the rest at 13/16"
Mate if you made dollars insted of scence you would be a god dam million air. Im a noobie
🙄👍 but you have my attention with your knowledge and experience 🤔! Subbed.
Working on both. Thanks
Awesome video T.
LSU GOLFER
Thanks
I feel like this video should come earlier in the playlist
Preach
Thank you for the video this is very helpful! Just to clarify, if my bare shafts are hitting the solid target and the nock is angled to the left and low of the arrow tip (i.e. nock angled low and left of fletched arrows, am I raising the rest and moving the rest right to correct? The same as what I would be doing through paper?
how far do you shoot the bare shafts?
Your a genius
Christopher LaSalvia
Careful bud. I may let you down!! Haaaaaa
Lol great video, I shoot heavy arrows, as well as shootn 50 plus yards because I live in muley land aka no trees, but feel shamed because I have a bow press. I just didn't want to be a screw driver guy, promise :)
WishN I Was FishN
When you shoot adult arrows 50 yards they hit like a hammer!!
You remind me of lunkers tv awesome attitude dude I love it tune it to you and you twitches that’s what I do I ahoot the same every time and it works for me but if someone else shoots my bow they can’t group for shit but I shoot and I group quarters
Your making me into mad man I’m about to buy 100 grain inserts despite what everyone says I can still shoot farish even though I don’t need too
PimpDaddy Outdoors
My apologies for making you more lethal. Please check out my bare shaft and nock tuning videos. If you need any help - troy@ranchfairy.com
I know it’s been a long time, but what sight do you use on your bow on Pam.
The EZV bowsight
This guy is funny
I thought I was the only person who did that! But no! The Ranch King does also!
C Price
Uh - it’s Fairy!! Ha! Yeah, it’s the only way to fly for broadheads. It works
Ranch Fairy lol, yea. I just courteous on your response lol
Ranch Fairy have u ever shot any of the Simmon broadheads?
C Price
I have, they are fine. A bit hard to sharpen. If I’m gonna go that kind of direction, the Strickland’s helix is the winner. The 150 and 225 are 1 5/16” wide and that bowed out piece on the back. Nasty. They also fly great. All reports on Helix says the same thing. They can be hard to sharpen too. Get the sharpener
Does adding weight to the front of the arrow effect foc in a positive or negative way?
To the front adds forward of center FOC
It increases FOC.
But arrow flight must be maintained!!
@@RanchFairy thank you for the reply. I have so much to learn
@@cajun3197 Hit me on insta if you have questions.
Should I nock tune my bare shaft first or vice versa? Thanks for your videos very helpful
This then nock tune the best performers
th-cam.com/video/cUADCf1VKFw/w-d-xo.html
Great video,love your attitude 😆. Just want simple steps,tuning for hunting etc. I'm not a pro archer,I don't need all that other bullshit. Jus wanna kill stuff at 40yds and under
Can you do this with 100 gr tips
Dan Schumacher, D.C.
yes
Just got into bow hunting trying this out for tuning my bow. Arrows are flying knock high and to the right. My whisker biscuit cant be adjusted anymore though. Any ideas?
you will want to move your nocking point down or your rest up and re-check timing of your cams
Is it the same if you hitting nock high or low. Would you adjust d loop or rest up or down? Cheers
Jeremy R.
Absolutely!! If nock hits high go up and vice versa.
Move the fletched arrow to the Bareshaft for right and left, and the bareshaft to the fletched to correct high and low
Isn't it easier to just shoot couple of fletched shaft and couple of bare shafts together and see if they group together?
Troy, thanks for posting this tutorial. I have 2 doz. 400 spine arrows from my expandable days , which I shoot out of a 59# pse. I want to shoot 200grn grizzlies single bevels which would put my arrow wt. at 490grns. Would this combination work or should I use a stiff shaft. Thanks for doing the homework.
j j
400’s are twizzlers - HA. Yes - get 300 spine - same brand and diameter as the 400’s. Two things: 1. You’re front loading the arrow - 200 grains - that’s straight forward
2. the longer and heavier point actually softens spine a bunch, the whole arrow is “longer”. Those grizzlies blow through critters!!!!
Hit me on email if you have any more questions - happy to help. Troy@ranchfairy.com
Thanks Troy, good bye twizzlers!!
I notice a lot of you guys use a drop away rest. Would I get same results from the wisker biscuit rest that holds all around the arrow?
I’ve found that over 550 grains the whiskers become a little inconsistent
Hey Troy. After bare shaft tuning with your test kit, wouldn't adding fletches throw off the FOC balance? And therefore cause vertical tears? Should more weight be added up front to account for the fletch weight in the back?
I’ve not found this to be true
Fletching is amazing at masking bad arrow flight
Perfect bare shaft - gonna be better
@@RanchFairy ok. Just a thought that crossed my mind. Got my TX5 shooting very well with the 175 grain points. Didnt do as well with 150s or 200s. It's been a finicky bow to play with. So ordered some fletched arrows of the same type from Sirius along with a bunch of 175 grain tips and got worried when I thought about the added weight of the vanes and glue to the rear of the arrow. I figured it would possibly have an adverse affect on the good combination that I have found
Ranch fairy. Do you recommend standard diameter shafts or the newer micro diameter stuff coming out. Supposedly the smaller shafts help with wind resistance and aid in deeper penetration. Just curious on your options
Yeah yeah.
Wind resistance....hahaha - go shoot whatever you end up with in the wind and practice in the wind - then you know.
Currently testing micros - mid diameter has been very very good.
@@RanchFairy awesome. Hopefully this leads to a future video. Appreciate all your responses!
Just finished bare tuning, fletching after the rib eye, shooting gold tip 300 velocity pro, 100gr inserts and 150 field points with 29 1/2 arrow at 72 lbs in the ballpark?
Switched to 200 grain inserts like em
No way that flies out of 72 pounds
Country boy mentality, no nonsense tuning! I like it. That was a refreshing way to look at tuning. I'm a western hunter and have taken a lot of elk and deer well beyond 40 yards, but I've also hunted whitetails from ground blinds and tree stands. You can surely get wrapped up in all the bull shit rhetoric out there on tuning. Thanks for sharing!
Roy Hoglund
Stay tuned. I’ve got a video coming up that shows a fact! YOU CANNOT control blood trails!!!! It’s gonna raise a ruckus!
Amen!!
KIM COVENEY
Thanks
So do you do this before or after nock tuning?
"during". When you're bare shaft tuning, you rotate the nock to find the best flight. It's fine tuning the bare shaft.
@@RanchFairy awesome! Thanks for these videos. 🤙
Might be a dumb question but can you square the ends of an fmj arrow same as carbon arrows?
landon lagree
Yes you can.
May the good Lord help you with the worst possible insert system ever designed. Easton didn’t do any favors, for bow hunters, with the HIT.
Did you do a fletching video on tuned arrows
See “four fletch process”
@@RanchFairy awesome thanks
Can I use a different arrow to bare shaft tune? I have a few old hunting arrows and I dont want to tear fletching off my new ones
A Canuck
Has to be same length and spine and brand
Ranch Fairy, question for you. Working on a 700 grain finished arrow weight, with 220 grain insert and 150 grain head. I went to bare shaft tune and arrow flies point heavy. I do shoot a drop away rest and I'm not sure if rest is falling away to fast for what the bow is pushing. Do I need to switch to static rest or try and adjust rest up? I shoot a 580 grain arrow normally for deer and it flies great bare shaft out of my bow.
David Binversie
Arrow flies point down/tail high, is what I assume.
Step 1 - rotate your nock 1/4 turn, shoot then 1/4 turn and shoot. That may do it. Every arrow needs to be nock tuned no matter Set up
David Binversie
If that doesn’t solve, move your rest up just a little bit and nock tune
@@RanchFairy Yes tail high. This is before I have any fletched up. These are just bare shafts right now. I wanted to see how they flew in case I needed to cut them down any before fletching them up. They look great left and right.
David Binversie
Probably the rest. Mark zero on vertical (i usually scratch mine - sharpie works) so you can set it back. Then move it up and see how the arrows shoot. I bare shaft every individual arrow. Bare shaft tuning video coming up on 18th
If you're not horizontally paper tuned when the rest is centered on the shelf, shouldn't you make the appropriate yoke tune? Moving the rest only masks the problem.
Garand
Well, 2 answers here. Yep, hole tuning is a way to do this. For the skilled and 100% all in bow press guys. The other 97-% of bowhunters need a solution.
Second. When the arrow flies perfect, no feathers for 30, man that is a tune the 97% of bowhunters never achieve.
So, you are correct, a bit, but most people won’t go through the effort. Trust me man, I’ve got the 3% guys and they tell me I am crazy, which is a fair comment.
Garand Some bows don’t have yokes. Which in that case you need to shim the cams. But for strictly bowhunting this works, and it’s easier and faster.
Brandon Ziegler
Prefect. I am trying to help the 95% of bowhunters who just want their broadheads to fly and kill stuff. The 2% who bother to have a press or yoke tune.
They are on a different planet
So what if I'm shooting from 30 yards and my arrows kick out nock left like crazy at about 10 yards from my bow but group tight and hit straight?
Robert Harris I assume you mean fletched arrows?
This is gonna sound like a smart ass answer. That means at 10 yards your arrows are going to hit at a left angle (even with fletched) and your best performance on meat will be at 30+ yards.
@@RanchFairyNo the shafts are still bare. I did shoot my old arrows that are fletched for a control and they group right there with them. The vertical spreads out because of the weight difference at a distance but at 25 and closer, they are in the same holes. I just remembered I need to number my arrows. Was so wrapped up in cutting 1/4" at a time that I forgot that step. Some shots are smooth all the way out. Some do that nock kick then straighten. Maybe it's only certain shafts and I can just put them to the side. 25, 30, 35 and 40 yards everything hits great. At 20 and closer, some are a bit nock left. Shooting a drop away and nothing is hitting the rest. BTW thanks for replying. Love the videos. They make me miss Texas a bit though.
@@apophisprime7135 AH!!! If some are perfect and some are misbehaving, you're golden, turn the nock on the bad kids. Literally rotated it 1/4 turn at a time. I have nock tuning videos on the channel. It's super magic consistency fairy dust....actually Big Mike "The Wizard" showed me that!!!!
So I am trying to build a heavier arrow with gold tips 7795 (.340) spine with a 30 inch draw and 67pound draw weight. I put a 100 grain insert with a 200 grain head and tried bareshaft tuning like your video shows. With this much weight on the front, i experienced tail whip. So i moved the rest 1/16 right and left and never could get that "kick" out of the flight. The slighted movement of the rest caused the tail in the opposite direction. I put on a 125 grain point and the arrow appeared to shoot straight with my original "tune." If I have an arrow that is questionably underspined for the amount of weight i want to put up front, is this a problem I am going to notice with the tail left and right effect as it comes out of the bow bare shafted?
Kyle Meier Outdoors
Shaft is too soft - the lighter point is showing you that. Pretty standard. I’d jump to a .250 spine since your DL is long. Black Eagle spartan .001 is a killer option.
i checked Black Eagle out. Its hard to decide on an arrow. They all hype up their product so well. The only arrow that i have seen pass the "tough" test is the grizzly sticks and the black eagle with an aluminum footer thingy. They seem good. Maybe on my next arrow buy. Anyway, when I shot the heavy 200 grain with field points and broadheads, they shot with the similar POI. But with the 125 grain that shot identical with bareshafts, the broad head shot 2 low and 5 right. Go Figure:(.
Kyle Meier Outdoors
I just happen to be shooting BE Spartan .001 - 250’s right now. I have 178 grain inserts 125 Broadheads. To run the weight up front and at your DL - definitely a 250. Flavor of arrow - yours to choose.
I’ve shot 250’s with 300/350/400/700 up front. (That bishop 600 broadhead is awesome). They all bare shaft. It’s a fun game to play!!
is it easy to play with the insert weights on the Spartans without taking the original insert out by just screwing in more weigh to the back of the original insert? Is this the common practice with these arrows?
Kyle Meier Outdoors yes and yes. Get the wrench and the weights. It works great and you can tweak - a lot.
I recommend a pack of 75 grainers and a pack of 30 grainers. That way you can tweak and shoot different distances to find optimal performance
You said "bare shaft, nothing on the end," then you have a field point...which is it? Do you bare shaft with field point on?
Mr. Skeptical
That’s hilarious. Try both!!
Does big mike have a YT channel?
I'm following your instructions and no matter what I do my arrows are tail right in the target. If I move the rest to the extreme right the group moves right but the arrows are still tail left same if I move it extreme left.
* tail right
Rich Spitzlei
What spine / draw weight and draw length?
Rich Spitzlei
Most of the time when this is the case / the bow itself is out of tune, cables stretched, etc. and it’s not running down the middle. My obsession is doing the same thing.
The bow is brand new and the pro shop paper tuned it shooting bullet holes with the same arrows but fletched. Bowtech SR6 @ 65 lbs 300 spine kinetic pierce with 200 gr broad heads and another 50 or so up front = 546 grs @ 19.5% foc. It's a tack driver when I shoot them fletched but not sure if the flight is perfect
Rich Spitzlei
Ok. Have you turned the nock? Rotated it? On bare shaft?
And - how much tail kick? 2” or Sideways?
My buddy thought i was crazy for building easton axis arrows with 75 grain inserts and 100 grain heads for a finished weight of 462 grains. Bow is quiet. And inside 30 yards it blows my 375 grain arrows away.
15TruckLT
Wait till it 15trucks through a deer!!!!
@@RanchFairy you sir are as real as it gets on TH-cam. Im subscribed.
So if the tail is off to the left move rest to right?
D. O'Hanlon
Tail left move rest left. Just a little. There are situations where the arrow is underspined and it’s the way you described
Holy Christ! Wish I wasn’t drinking, I wouldn’t have wasted my time.
Shitty arrows led me here. Months later. Now I have 222 grains up front on a 550 grain arrow with a 30.5" draw length and I punch brush minimal deflection at 60yrds with a broadhead. WTF just happened.
Fairy dust
@@RanchFairy well then call me a dust addict.
great info buddy. Who gives a rats ass if your broadheads and bare shafts dont group together. once bow season gets here my arrows will not see another field point till March. Ranch fairy rocks
what sight is that?
Black Stag Outdoors
The EZVsight.com from
Venator gear. Look on my channel for the reviews. Every animal taken on my channel is with it. 2 years and running. Absolutely great sight for bowhunting. Instant range finder!
Thank you
Is there a video of someone doing the kit from start to finish? I think I understand the concept but I’m not sure. 250-300 spine then find the right front weight for your bare shaft then fletch and stick with that weight broadhead?
“The process” on RF channel
th-cam.com/video/cUADCf1VKFw/w-d-xo.html
@@RanchFairy you’re awesome thanks for the link. So I will be buying your kit when I get the money but in the mean time I have a question. I have 12 new arrows that I don’t know much about other than they don’t make them anymore. They are 29” quest heavy ironwood tapered shafts. They are 11 gpi and a 300 spine. I’m not sure the exact insert size but could I use a 100 grain insert (if I ever find one) and my 125 heads to get the same results? Never used these tapered shafts. They are carbon shafts but I would assume the taper would be to help increase foc and reduce tail drag?
@@jaradwebber8108
Give them a go!
Okay okay! I really don’t like this! Ranch Fairy 🧚♂️ is correct and I am incorrect or for those of you in Rio, Linda ……. I’m WRONG Okay? I’m gonna have to start over and do this the right way and admit that I’m wrong and that is just awful!!
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they were flying waaaay nock high
Lmao.. Awesome vids...
Rob King
Naked arrows win
Wow! what beautiful teeth !!! (:-))
James Cullins
Just trying to over come a few addictions!!!!
@@RanchFairy Outstanding video I really enjoyed it. Having fun is the most important thing.
Al
I heard this conspiracy theory that heavy arrows are slow. Idk I got a Halon 32 5 and my arrows are over 500 grains and they shoot like laser beams
It’s only matters how hard they hit and how long they press on the animal before stoppjng
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