I love your channel thanks for bringing back all the good memories of my early experiences of working with a sampler and MIDI. We have it so easy now 😊
I've recently been messing around with the TAL Sampler to try and emulate Amiga samples. A lot of the Amiga mods (music files) back in the day used 8 bit 8 KHz samples which is lo-fi even by the TAL sampler standards. I ended up putting a sound through a bit crusher and bouncing it out as a sample. I loaded it into TAL sampler and it works just fine. I found the S1000 was the brightest and used no FX for the most genuine crunchy sound. Brings back some memories! I imagine you could get EMU or Fairlight type sounds the same way.
Amiga Paula chip is as barebone as it gets concerning sample playback. As you say 8 bit samples with a sampling rate of 28 khz max, 4 voices hard panned by default (2 on the left, and 2 on the right) and a 6 bit volume "effect" per channel giving only 64 amplitude increments (so using software programming you could have the equivalent of 14 bit audio but it was not used in practice for games because it would slow down the CPU massively). There is basically absolutely NO form of filtering, interpolation or antialiasing. I guess you can use "sample and hold" in TAL Sampler to emulate that. There was only a low pass filter ouside of the sound chip applied on everything with a cutoff frequency between 4 and 5 khz. I HATED it as it made the sound all muddy and I always disabled it.
Thank you very much, Espen. That was very useful. I had upgraded to the newest version of TAL sampler and the graphic interfaces are changed a bit. Still could figure things out easily.
Thanks so much for this tutorial. I was just fiddling around with the resampling controls and I'm really fascinated by the character you can dial in with the sample-rate reduction and DAC settings. I've never owned a vintage sampler so I'm coming at this with no hands-on experience with any of these old instruments, but I'm reading up on the Emulator II and the Akai S1000. Really cool stuff. 😎
I must get this... As a old skull muso.. Still have 2 x ASR.. etc... Had many other samplers, and as for software, Mach 5, was.. WAS my fav.. but alas.. Motu just aint cutting it... This has a work flow for musical sound design... Thanks for reminding me about this.
Awesome, been looking forward to this video for a long time! Keep up the great work! Also, haven't actually watched it yet so this may be a redundant question (apologies if so!), but have you considered using something like SampleRobot to ease the process a bit?
I know what SampleRobot is and what it can do. Not for me. I'm old school. I'll do it all manually to have total control. I don't do extensive multi-sampling either. Note-for note sampling is not the way to get any sort of 80s feel into the sample libraries I'm going for. That's why most modern sample libraries sound so boring and stale, they use way too much multi-sampling. I should know as I worked for some of them in the past. ;-)
Now if this sampler would only automatically map the samples when you drop in multiple files e.g. by file name or by determining the root note automatically. That would save so much time. Many other samplers do this. But they don’t sound so good as the TAL Sampler.
Hi Esben, thanks for a great video. A simple question not addressed in the manual. you have your settings in the drop down menu and not only on the browser to the left - how do I make my TAL sampler do that? For now, I don't have any preset options in the dropdown menu which makes it a bit of a hassle :)
Hello. Great tutorial. Is there a way to move the start and end point of a sample at the same time using a midi controller ? I want to scroll through the samples with a midi knob/slider. Thank you.
Do you know of any VST sampler that could start playing samples randomly at any point, or maybe have the loops run freely, like the digital waveforms on a DW8000 ?
Kinda confused by your vibrato setup. It seems like how you did it would have the mod wheel just speed up the LFO1 rate and use the amount set by the matrix slot above. When i did it I would usually have the MW destination be the slot amount knob for the LFO to tune slot. Anyway, it sounded like it worked right so maybe I should try your method.
@@EspenKraft I just tried your way of doing the vibrato and it is cool, if untraditional! I see now that setting the LFO1 rate at zero will make it add no modulation when the MW is down.
I've been sampling for a long time. If you only sample octaves, your sound will inherit the sound of the software used with it's pitch variance features, Especially with an analog synth you'll lose the natural harmonics and tone of the sound. When sampling, it's best to at least sample every 3rd key. For looping the files in bulk, use Zero X seamless looper if you can still find it. It will find the closest looping point in each file reducing the size and load times of the patches tremendously. Edit: And also I've found Steinberg Halion 6 to be the only sampler software that will exactly reproduce the sound of what I sampled. I don't know if their holding back proprietaries on their VST Tech but I've compared the sound engines on everything and Halion was the only one to produce that exactness.
Ideally you'd only want to sample ONE note in my opinion, to really get the artifacts going. That's how I sample the sounds I use in my own music. I want to hear the grit, aliasing and crunch from the sampler, when the pitch slows down.
@@EspenKraft Well, everybody has a full 100% right to their own opinion, but all your "artifacts, grit and aliasing" will be completely different from the original. Not a bad thing because it can still sound good, but the same as the original hardware? No my friend.
You don't use old samplers to get a perfect sample of what you're sampling. You create a new sound, with a new signature, taken from what you're sampling yes, but added texture, grit and character. That's it. It's called creation.
Just created my very first Pad on TAL, without your practical video it would have taken weeks.Thank you,!
Thanks for saying! :)
I love your channel thanks for bringing back all the good memories of my early experiences of working with a sampler and MIDI. We have it so easy now 😊
Thanks!
@@EspenKraft cheers
I've recently been messing around with the TAL Sampler to try and emulate Amiga samples. A lot of the Amiga mods (music files) back in the day used 8 bit 8 KHz samples which is lo-fi even by the TAL sampler standards. I ended up putting a sound through a bit crusher and bouncing it out as a sample. I loaded it into TAL sampler and it works just fine. I found the S1000 was the brightest and used no FX for the most genuine crunchy sound. Brings back some memories!
I imagine you could get EMU or Fairlight type sounds the same way.
Amiga Paula chip is as barebone as it gets concerning sample playback. As you say 8 bit samples with a sampling rate of 28 khz max, 4 voices hard panned by default (2 on the left, and 2 on the right) and a 6 bit volume "effect" per channel giving only 64 amplitude increments (so using software programming you could have the equivalent of 14 bit audio but it was not used in practice for games because it would slow down the CPU massively). There is basically absolutely NO form of filtering, interpolation or antialiasing. I guess you can use "sample and hold" in TAL Sampler to emulate that. There was only a low pass filter ouside of the sound chip applied on everything with a cutoff frequency between 4 and 5 khz. I HATED it as it made the sound all muddy and I always disabled it.
I love using TAL sampler. Opened up a new world for me
Thank you for this video, Espen - it's right on point and extremely helpful.
And thanks for the great preset packs!
Thank you very much, Espen. That was very useful. I had upgraded to the newest version of TAL sampler and the graphic interfaces are changed a bit. Still could figure things out easily.
Cheers!
Thanks so much for this tutorial. I was just fiddling around with the resampling controls and I'm really fascinated by the character you can dial in with the sample-rate reduction and DAC settings. I've never owned a vintage sampler so I'm coming at this with no hands-on experience with any of these old instruments, but I'm reading up on the Emulator II and the Akai S1000. Really cool stuff. 😎
Cheers!
Thank you Espen!
But why you assign LFO Speed in the Mod Matrix instead of LFO Depth?
LFO speed and depth are two different things. Cheers
Never understood this add mapping , This was very helpful . Thanks Espen😊
You can just drag the files onto the mapping area to create a mapping. At least in the current version.
Love Tal!
As always very inspirational and learning a few tricks... Many thanks! :-)
Cheers!
Great demo! DAC emultations are great in TAL Sampler. Juno 60 from TAL is another nice plugin too.
Cheers!
nice tutorial, i like the TAL Sampler absolutely, the newest update add the Roland Juno Chorus and the soundbrowser is easyer to use
I don't like the new version in terms of layout. Cheers!
in my opinion is the layout a little bit to modern, a vintage face were on these place better, but the workflow is much better in the new version
I must get this...
As a old skull muso.. Still have 2 x ASR.. etc... Had many other samplers, and as for software, Mach 5, was.. WAS my fav.. but alas.. Motu just aint cutting it... This has a work flow for musical sound design...
Thanks for reminding me about this.
Cheers!
Awesome, been looking forward to this video for a long time! Keep up the great work!
Also, haven't actually watched it yet so this may be a redundant question (apologies if so!), but have you considered using something like SampleRobot to ease the process a bit?
I know what SampleRobot is and what it can do. Not for me. I'm old school. I'll do it all manually to have total control. I don't do extensive multi-sampling either. Note-for note sampling is not the way to get any sort of 80s feel into the sample libraries I'm going for. That's why most modern sample libraries sound so boring and stale, they use way too much multi-sampling. I should know as I worked for some of them in the past. ;-)
@@EspenKraft I figured that it was an intentional choice to not go that route! Thanks for the info, and looking forward to the new pack!
Cheers!
Yes. Thnx!
Cheers!
Now if this sampler would only automatically map the samples when you drop in multiple files e.g. by file name or by determining the root note automatically. That would save so much time. Many other samplers do this. But they don’t sound so good as the TAL Sampler.
Vert nice. Tal sampler, does that stand for the amazing loop
Hi Esben, thanks for a great video. A simple question not addressed in the manual. you have your settings in the drop down menu and not only on the browser to the left - how do I make my TAL sampler do that? For now, I don't have any preset options in the dropdown menu which makes it a bit of a hassle :)
Thanks! I use an old version I think. Ask them, they've made it. ;-)
Hello. Great tutorial. Is there a way to move the start and end point of a sample at the same time using a midi controller ? I want to scroll through the samples with a midi knob/slider. Thank you.
Thanks. I have no idea.
Thank now i can my old AMIGA Protracker Samples to use🤗
Thank you! very helpful!
Cheers!
Do you know of any VST sampler that could start playing samples randomly at any point, or maybe have the loops run freely, like the digital waveforms on a DW8000 ?
I do not.
@@EspenKraft Thanks for the answer anyway.
nice tutorial , thankyou so much👌🏻👍🏻
Can u sample direct into the tal vst, or can you only load samples files in?
Import only.
Does tal have auto-sampling where it triggers a nidi note and records?
How do you create your intial waves that you are mapping?
You can't sample with TAL. You import your audio files and then map those out etc.
@@EspenKraft would you recommend sample robot?
I don't use it myself. I like to have full control and do things manually.
@@EspenKraft interesting, so what do you use to sample for import into Tal-sampler ?
Kinda confused by your vibrato setup. It seems like how you did it would have the mod wheel just speed up the LFO1 rate and use the amount set by the matrix slot above. When i did it I would usually have the MW destination be the slot amount knob for the LFO to tune slot. Anyway, it sounded like it worked right so maybe I should try your method.
I've tried many ways to get a good vibrato going, that suits my taste. I find this is the best way for me.
@@EspenKraft I just tried your way of doing the vibrato and it is cool, if untraditional! I see now that setting the LFO1 rate at zero will make it add no modulation when the MW is down.
Intrigued by the new sample pack. Killer pads by any chance?
Some extraordinary nice pads in this pack yes.
U BEST!!!
Cheers!
The new version of Tal Sampler ( Version 4.2.1 ) has a better UI and an improved browser
I don't like the new gui at all. Luckily it does not affect the libraries I make so I'll continue using the old one. ;-)
@@EspenKraft It takes a few hours to adapt and customise ... i thought that too the first time I tried it . The browser alone is a major time saver
I'll leave that to you guys to do. I live by the mantra "if it's not broken, don't fix it". ;-)
I've been sampling for a long time. If you only sample octaves, your sound will inherit the sound of the software used with it's pitch variance features, Especially with an analog synth you'll lose the natural harmonics and tone of the sound. When sampling, it's best to at least sample every 3rd key. For looping the files in bulk, use Zero X seamless looper if you can still find it. It will find the closest looping point in each file reducing the size and load times of the patches tremendously. Edit: And also I've found Steinberg Halion 6 to be the only sampler software that will exactly reproduce the sound of what I sampled. I don't know if their holding back proprietaries on their VST Tech but I've compared the sound engines on everything and Halion was the only one to produce that exactness.
Ideally you'd only want to sample ONE note in my opinion, to really get the artifacts going. That's how I sample the sounds I use in my own music. I want to hear the grit, aliasing and crunch from the sampler, when the pitch slows down.
@@EspenKraft Well, everybody has a full 100% right to their own opinion, but all your "artifacts, grit and aliasing" will be completely different from the original. Not a bad thing because it can still sound good, but the same as the original hardware? No my friend.
You don't use old samplers to get a perfect sample of what you're sampling. You create a new sound, with a new signature, taken from what you're sampling yes, but added texture, grit and character. That's it. It's called creation.
@@EspenKraft No. I use new ones LOL Still Love ya Espen. ;) Have a good one.
Cheers man! :)
Records 48k samples. Uses 12-bit 14.4k sampler.