Eye witnesses get details wrong all the time, so picking up someone despite a height discrepancy is not a crime. Unless one assumes the police are of defective moral character and not trying to actually solve the case. Stories like these do not help with public perception and make crime solving even harder.
Those detectives did NOT do any fact checking prior to arresting a child. Lazy SOB's. I wouldnt usually say this, but both detectives deserve to get fired and lose their pension!! Horrible.
Please parents teach your kids at a young age to always tell the truth when it comes to the law and don’t admit to anything that u haven’t done to police officers or detectives. Don’t lie for anyone no matter who the hell it is. Don’t talk to the law without them being there or a lawyer being there if they ever find themselves in trouble. Ignore them if u ask for your parent or lawyer. It’s sad this has to be done at such a young age but that’s how life is these days especially for brown skin minors.
Are they EVEN ALLOWED to interrogate a minor WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT?! THIS IS DISGUSTING! Those detectives SHOULD BE CHARGED!! Surely, they’re NO LONGER ALLOWED TO BE ON LAW ENFORCEMENT!🤷🏼♀️
Never, ever, ever talk to cops without a lawyer. These kids think they get to go home if they confess. Not true. Call mom r dad and they will say he was at a game. 15 years old can b tried as an adult. Keep your mouth shut.
@@catherinewinkeler8587 So in your country you call 15 year old boys as a "kid" or "child", and they will confess to a murder in order to go home?!!!😂😂 what a Fd up ridiculous culture you've turned to!
Growing up, we are told that if we have a problem that we get a Police officer because they will help. You are almost better off taking your chances finding a stranger to help you. That is complete sarcasm, but the irony is crazy!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Call my mom,please call my mom, no more. Call my mom, just call her. They should be ashamed of themselves. Sue them, this is not right; thank goodness for the cameras.
She said at the end that both of them are still working- like - let’s just cover this up with some bullshit story telling from the sheriff 😅- not cool I hope the family sues - apologies mean nothing for 48 hours to this 15 yr old trama
I would think that not only is there a big difference between lying to a competent adult and lying to a minor, but there's also the difference between lying over potential case fact, and lying to someone about their constitutional rights or the legal process in general. This kind of instance definitely leaves a really bad impression.
I’m sorry even as 15 year old I would never admit to doing anything I didn’t do period . My parents didn’t raise a dummy . I guess because my dad was involved in the community and law I was more aware of the system than most and that was back in the 70’s .
Those detectives need fired! It’s insane what they did to that 15 year old. They tried to destroy that kids life. If they would’ve did the tiniest bit of investigative work before they even arrested him in front of his entire school then they would’ve found out he was playing a damn basketball game in front of a lot of people. And the one detective saying he was there for him (the 15 year old) and not the other detective is horribly manipulative. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are grown men and know damn well that kids are easily manipulated. They knew they were wrong. Police should be charged criminally and fired immediately when they do stuff like this. Laws need to change to protect kids and even adults from situations like this. Police shouldn’t be allowed to lie, especially to children. Police aren’t held to the same standard as everyone else and it’s bs. Thankfully there was proof of his alibi. Those cops are a joke.
I don’t understand how people confess to things that they didn’t do. Why do they do that? This is nuts. I don’t understand why this happens. Justice man & I hope the victim heals
If you ever been held for days in a cell as a kid youd do anything to get out there to get in contact with your parents. They kept me for almost 3days with bologna sandwhiches and chips. I was 13 although they said i looked older. My mom called the station looking for me but they claim i wasnt considered missing yet and im sitting in a cell to interrogation room then back to the cell. Wish we wouldve sued back then. Shit happens all the time. I got a cousin now him and his friends got life because they were picking any blk teen with locks. My cousin had cornrows not locks but any way they were on Dr. Phil recently. An officer got killed so they rounded up everyone with locks or cornrows. Small town of waverly va.
I was looking for a comment about this. Confessing to shooting somebody when you didn’t is crazy. How interrogations work is messed up but he seemed convinced he did it so quickly
psychological terror. alone being in such a windowless, small, weird painted, with nothing but as 2 chairs and a table, room, makes your brain sick. also how they push the suspect into an edge 2 vs 1. thats why i never would say anyithing in such a room. i want a room with a window, daylight, not alone and not in a corner with my back to the door. this is a hellish concept.
Where were his parents or family members and loved ones??? You can’t detain a minor without parental consent…why would he admit to something and he knows damn well he didn’t do it and was no where near the scene….something not adding up…..
Some time the cop will tell them that they can go home if they sign a statement, I can imagine when you are so tired you will do any thing to go home and sleep in your own bed. what’s a change of heart for me is
Never let police trick you. If they jad the evidence they said they did they wouldn't talk to you at all, they would just arrest you. Never waive your rights. Ask for a lawyer immediately and invoke your right to stay silent.
If the boy could've been sentenced to death, these 'officers' should be charged with attemted murder, especially the 'quiet' one, for he's facillitating ! 🤔😭🤮😤🤬
@@SMOOVKILL1 not really. Sleep deprivation and fear can get people to say wild things. We hear people lie to us over the dumbest things daily. It doesn’t surprise me that the innocence program has saved so many people from false imprisonments. It’s so easy for us to judge and not be in that situation.
I wonder how many other ppl have confessed to crimes they didn’t actually commit due to these horrible interrogation tactics. Placing someone under extreme duress and then making them feel like their only way out is through confessing. And to do it to a minor is even worse. But him being a minor isn’t the only time something like this happens. Remember the guy who confessed to the murder of his own daughter after being placed in a similar position.
@@garcdonald The victim making up an entire story about discarding a weapon that he never possessed and retracing steps that he never took was bazaar to me. Every time I would hear a confession, I took that as a true admission of guilt. Now I have to start asking myself how the detectives went about getting those confessions.
He said the store clerk was threatening him and that he himself, has a temper. Why the hell would anyone agree to a story of shooting someone. I don't care he was 15. I was 15. I'd just laugh and tell they have nothing cause it wasn't me. How they get him to confess to something in story that's made up, is just crazy to me. For pokice to do it, but for the suspect to allow it.
@@cookiesnruntzeasy for you to say since you’re not in that position and I pray you never are. Being detained for 2 days and grilled for questioning while being tired can get you some interesting things. Man convinced to harming his two kids which were false. It’s easy for us to say “how in the world did you admit to that?” But we don’t truly know. I hope we don’t.
I’m confused, did this kid actually know what they were talking about? The actual situation at the dollar store? Was he just making a story with what they were saying? I need to know! 😂
This is why detectives should never be legally allowed to talk to minors! Had he not had solid proof he was playing at his game, he’d be in prison and he’d be innocent! Despicable behavior by these lying manipulative detectives!!!!
The job of a detective is to get a confession, whether you did something or not. They use all sorts of word salad to put you in the hot seat and get a confession out of you. Don't talk to them without a lawyer!
You could tell it wasn't Martell.... The eyes were not the same, he has lighter skin, and unless he was borrowing a Madea or a Norbitt suit, his whole body shape was different. Good/Great detectives allow the "suspect" to speak for inconsiderate. They don't just tell people what they have done with no chance to answer, let alone get a word in bc the detective is over talking. That guy shouldn't be a detective, and shouldn't be doing any type of interrogations, especially high stakes charges, (unless you want a false confession. He's an awful being. That's evil to try to send a kid away for a very long time. Shame on him.
If i didnt do it...i dont care what you say to me. If i didnt do it, im not going to agree with anything you say. I remember being 15. I had attitude and was mouthy. I wouldnt let anyone talk me into confessing. If this kid didnt pull the trigger, he wouldnt have said he did it. I dont care what evidence in abundance you say you have, im still saying no.
You talk to cops you get fried on the electric chair innocently if you have bad luck! If you are lucky, you get out of prison after 50 years and get to hear "OH WELL HONEY, WE ARE SORRY, AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU!...........
It happened to me. They literally told me to admit to something I didn’t do or go to jail!! What kind of choice is that? So I admitted to something I didn’t do, wasn’t there, didn’t know about it. But I just gave up, cuz they obviously didn’t want the truth. So I told them what they wanted to hear and I went home. I didn’t go to jail but I lost my job because of it. My mind was completely blown.
Didnt a guy recently get charged with killing his father even though his father was not even dead and the detectives found out he was alive but never told the man and still interrogated him into a confession. In Fantana, California.
I can't get over the fact that the description of the shooter was 5"6 and this kid was over 6feet tall , so the world we live in now is the hell if we get the right person as long as we get a confession from a blk guy...smh...and yet they both still on the police force
They way the detective did most of the talking trying to convince this vulnerable child. Is sickening, the other detective watching looks very intimidating to me. Lord knows we must teach OUR children to NEVER speak with detectives without their parents or an adult they trust. What kind of society do we all live in when you can't trust the police! A very sad daily reality!
This is known as the Reed Technique: "The technique is known for creating a high pressure environment for the interviewee, followed by sympathy and offers of understanding and help, but only if a confession is forthcoming. Since its spread in the 1970s, it has been widely utilized by police departments in the United States." 1) Dont talk to the police. Get a lawyer. You are granted that right for a reason! It will *not* make you look more guilty. 2) the things you say, not just can be used against you: it will be weaponized and used against you in court. For example: you get arrested, the cop asks if you take medication. You answer honestly "Yes sir. I have ADHD and have a prescription for Adderall" .....when you get to court, you will be met with "when arrested, the suspected admitted to regularly taking amphetamines." 3) If you didnt do anything wrong, then dont say you did. Always have a lawyer present and make sure you listen to the rights being read to you! If you arent under arrest and just being questioned, oftentimes: youre free to leave. You can get up and walk out. If you stay and miss speak, you may wind-up in jail. 👍 4) when youre being read your rights, understand that even the cops are suggesting that you not talk to them 5) Cops usually can't make deals with you. So, say you arent a great human and you murdered someone. The cops will say something like "Maybe, things got outta hand. you felt threatened and defended yourself. Youre not a cold-blooded killer! Maybe you had to defend yourself and you killed them in a justifiable manner? is that what happened" ....they may already have enough evidence to convict you for murder, not self defense. All they need is for you to confirm that you did, in fact, end a person's life. They don't have to tell you what they know. They also are not lawyers or judges....so them suggesting that you could get less time or a lower charge, is often BS.
@@sunshinedaydream70 I agree. The Reed Technique often....doesn't work. It works enough to continue being used, but.... that's why you have the right to a free attorney. They will be able to stop tactics like this. Forcing a false admission of guilt is a constitutional rights violation, as you have the right to not self incriminate. If you are coerced into it, then it violates more rights. 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ So, I'm not sure why they risk it still... 🤔 🤷🏽♂️
Waukegan, like Wilmette and Winnetka, is in the northern suburbs of Chicago, just a bit further north than the other two. It's not some small town in western or downstate Illinois... It's in Chicagoland, just south of the border with Wisconsin (and Kenosha).
This detective gives hard working law enforcement officers a terrible name, a big black eye. He should be demoted to the police station toliet bowl and urinal cleaner. He was just looking to solve the case at any cost including this young man's life. He has a lot to answer for here and when he stands before the Lord.
all detectives do this though the only difference is this manipulative tactic was against a child.. literally every detective will try to manipulate you into confessing, makes their job easier rather than spending weeks/months investigating
kids are sooo dumb! they will lie their butts off about anything except for when it matters. they'll tell teachers call their parents but won't tell cops, especially when you already got arrested before?!
Black parents DO BETTER there is no reason a black child of ANY age shouldn’t have had the conversation with their parent of the importance of NOT speaking to COPS regardless of what they tell you. Unfortunately this is the world we live in and it better to have you kid stay silent rather than TRY to prove their innocence
“Im here on behalf of u” wow an fing detective acting like hes a lawyer..when hes also there to nail him. They r not ur friend or care to help-they want confessions-evidence-they want a conviction!!! Some want a closed case no matter what!
It was a black assault against a white case and the white cops raced to be hero’s !!! It’s sad that we still live in a racist stereotype world but it’s here and isn’t going anywhere soon !! The best thing we as a people can do is pray, stay focused, don’t play into there games, don’t do crimes, achieve, and live your best life !!!!
His admission to this crime leads me to believe he was confused about which one he was clearly talking about and was involved in one very similar. May not have been this exact one but clearly one that was very similar which is why he add’s details.
Lots of people are prone to manipulation. After two days and not realizing he was only detained it made him feel like he needed to say something to get out the room.
You're very naive or just haven't researched into this type of confession. Happens more than you think. Prolonged interrogation can make a human agree to anything to try to get out of there.
These grimy cops never allowed the child to speak they kept him persuaded to just say yes and agree. I'm wondering how they were able to keep him so long because as a parent i would be suing the department since he is underage. These are how young black men are treated everywhere in America and we must be mindful to teach our sons to ask for an attorney and keep their mouths shut. This is just sad that the police are still employed when they're horrible detectives and their work shows it.
It’s not a big deal… he was 15 so even after Miranda rights were read… the kid is a minor so his parents MUST consent to their child participating in the investigation… without that consent the cops are wrong and the parents should sue… the cops shouldn’t be punished or fired though… they are supposed to figure out wtf happened… but now… of course by nonviolently destroying the rights of a child for the purpose of fighting crime could save their badges but now this kid gets A BUNCH OF MONEY!!! Congratulations Martel
Especially considering that it is legal to lie and manipulate a suspect in an interrogation, it’s absolutely ridiculous and disgusting that it’s also legal to question a minor without a lawyer or guardian there. This kid is not mentally challenged, but this reminds me of Making a Murderer when they coerced a false confession out of the slow cousin and convicted him. Kids and mentally challenged people can’t profess interrogation tactics and can be convinced to say anything. I hope the Behavior Panel covers this.
You can solve a thousand cases correctly and in service of the community but you make one mistake and suddenly its turned into wide spread corruption. wow! tough job. By the way, suspects lie too.
So it's the cops fault that goofy confessed? Never mentioned he was playing basketball. So what were his real motives? What was his connection to the actual perp? What are the cops supposed to do when someone confesses to a crime?
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The fact the 5'6" suspect and a 6'3" skinny kid were seen as similar enough to interrogate and make an arrest is a crime in itself. Wow.
Eye witnesses get details wrong all the time, so picking up someone despite a height discrepancy is not a crime. Unless one assumes the police are of defective moral character and not trying to actually solve the case. Stories like these do not help with public perception and make crime solving even harder.
Imagine if he had no way of proving that he was at the basketball game
Scary to think about
Those detectives did NOT do any fact checking prior to arresting a child. Lazy SOB's. I wouldnt usually say this, but both detectives deserve to get fired and lose their pension!! Horrible.
You better say that!! 100%!
Please parents teach your kids at a young age to always tell the truth when it comes to the law and don’t admit to anything that u haven’t done to police officers or detectives. Don’t lie for anyone no matter who the hell it is. Don’t talk to the law without them being there or a lawyer being there if they ever find themselves in trouble. Ignore them if u ask for your parent or lawyer. It’s sad this has to be done at such a young age but that’s how life is these days especially for brown skin minors.
@@tinkamabry 💜💜💜
Where were HIS PARENTS?! This is a MINOR that the cops had for 2 DAYS!!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤡
Are they EVEN ALLOWED to interrogate a minor WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT?! THIS IS DISGUSTING! Those detectives SHOULD BE CHARGED!! Surely, they’re NO LONGER ALLOWED TO BE ON LAW ENFORCEMENT!🤷🏼♀️
youd think they would have pride in solving a case rather than pinning it on a total innocent.This happens all the time.Sick detectives
In all fairness to the police, black people just don't know how to behave.
Yeah youd think aye'
yeah...ALL of them...They NEVER find lost, missing kids...save people from kidnappers..
They are ALL sick.
This doesn’t happen all the time
@@circusbrains, bullshit
Disgusting. Should be fired instantly.
He’s a minor, why were his parents not called? Held for 48 hours as a minor! WTF 😳 poor child, I hope he and the person murdered get justice.
Depends on the state for how interviewing minors can be handled.
Never, ever, ever talk to cops without a lawyer. These kids think they get to go home if
they confess. Not true. Call mom r dad and they will say he was at a game. 15 years old can b tried as an adult. Keep your mouth shut.
@@catherinewinkeler8587 So in your country you call 15 year old boys as a "kid" or "child", and they will confess to a murder in order to go home?!!!😂😂 what a Fd up ridiculous culture you've turned to!
Growing up, we are told that if we have a problem that we get a Police officer because they will help. You are almost better off taking your chances finding a stranger to help you.
That is complete sarcasm, but the irony is crazy!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@danielleterese402 yeah,try a stranger then you'll find out!
Never talk too cops wihout a lawyer
This☝️. People don't take their Miranda rights seriously. Shut up and get a lawyer
ESPECIALLY when your car has been stolen, your CHILD is missing, you're being abused by some one, your neighbor kills his wife, etc.
How about don't murder people? Get help.
Comments like this are the reason humanity is circling the drain. Talk to cops if you aren't a piece of $hit.
@@AttackOnSocietyare you dumb? people get falsely charged all the time mostly because they speak to cops without a lawyer. DUH
This officer needs fired.
And you needs English class.
to be fired
@@RowdyLowdy 🤣 No habla english
@@RowdyLowdy and lowdy is spelled loudly so maybe we can take that class together 🤣🤣🤣
arrested
Imagine how many people are locked away because of false confessions 😢 Especially kids
Alot
Call my mom,please call my mom, no more. Call my mom, just call her. They should be ashamed of themselves. Sue them, this is not right; thank goodness for the cameras.
Does this police officer still have a job?
She said at the end that both of them are still working- like - let’s just cover this up with some bullshit story telling from the sheriff 😅- not cool I hope the family sues - apologies mean nothing for 48 hours to this 15 yr old trama
Probably, his daddy probably the chief
I would think that not only is there a big difference between lying to a competent adult and lying to a minor, but there's also the difference between lying over potential case fact, and lying to someone about their constitutional rights or the legal process in general. This kind of instance definitely leaves a really bad impression.
I’m sorry even as 15 year old I would never admit to doing anything I didn’t do period . My parents didn’t raise a dummy . I guess because my dad was involved in the community and law I was more aware of the system than most and that was back in the 70’s .
Got that right boy could of never punked me like that
The IQ of this one is well below room temperature
When the police department gets sued -- its as if they are suing the Tax Payer! What did the Tax Payer do wrong?
We the people accepted a corrupt government years and years ago. That’s the problem.
@@Sheena7625absolutely
Exist
Cause we pay them to keep us safe. If my workers ruined one of your thinks then my company has to pay for it.
population 89,321 is a small town?? I must be I a TINY town with only 3,656 people.
That’s not a small town . A small town is 20,000 or less . My town is extra small 756 and the main shopping town is 26,000
Waukegan is in the northern suburbs of Chicago. It's not some small town in downstate or western Illinois.
3,600 people, that was my highschool
@@jasondavis1949 Back in 1953? were you born in 1949? My town has a lot of farming Cherries and wine grapes.
Feel blessed to live away from the madness.
Those detectives need fired! It’s insane what they did to that 15 year old. They tried to destroy that kids life. If they would’ve did the tiniest bit of investigative work before they even arrested him in front of his entire school then they would’ve found out he was playing a damn basketball game in front of a lot of people. And the one detective saying he was there for him (the 15 year old) and not the other detective is horribly manipulative. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are grown men and know damn well that kids are easily manipulated. They knew they were wrong. Police should be charged criminally and fired immediately when they do stuff like this. Laws need to change to protect kids and even adults from situations like this. Police shouldn’t be allowed to lie, especially to children. Police aren’t held to the same standard as everyone else and it’s bs. Thankfully there was proof of his alibi. Those cops are a joke.
I don’t understand how people confess to things that they didn’t do. Why do they do that? This is nuts. I don’t understand why this happens. Justice man & I hope the victim heals
He was hoping for a BIG Payday !
If you ever been held for days in a cell as a kid youd do anything to get out there to get in contact with your parents. They kept me for almost 3days with bologna sandwhiches and chips. I was 13 although they said i looked older. My mom called the station looking for me but they claim i wasnt considered missing yet and im sitting in a cell to interrogation room then back to the cell. Wish we wouldve sued back then. Shit happens all the time. I got a cousin now him and his friends got life because they were picking any blk teen with locks. My cousin had cornrows not locks but any way they were on Dr. Phil recently. An officer got killed so they rounded up everyone with locks or cornrows. Small town of waverly va.
I was looking for a comment about this. Confessing to shooting somebody when you didn’t is crazy. How interrogations work is messed up but he seemed convinced he did it so quickly
psychological terror.
alone being in such a windowless, small, weird painted, with nothing but as 2 chairs and a table, room, makes your brain sick.
also how they push the suspect into an edge 2 vs 1. thats why i never would say anyithing in such a room. i want a room with a window, daylight, not alone and not in a corner with my back to the door.
this is a hellish concept.
@@davidallen3050sure lol
Waukegan illinois is def not a tiny town lol. Its a pretty large suburb of chicago and it's surrounded by similar suburbs
How is that you are a "good person" and all you are is hellbent on putting someone, anyone away for a crime?
Where were his parents or family members and loved ones??? You can’t detain a minor without parental consent…why would he admit to something and he knows damn well he didn’t do it and was no where near the scene….something not adding up…..
Some time the cop will tell them that they can go home if they sign a statement, I can imagine when you are so tired you will do any thing to go home and sleep in your own bed. what’s a change of heart for me is
Why not just tell them he was playing ball to begin with and to check his alibi? Rather then setting there two days listening to that crap?
Yea that’s what I don’t understand
He wants his big Payday !
@@mandimanihe's a child. You'd be surprised how many people are wrongfully convicted
@@davidallen3050typical response from a typical racist
Plot twist, he was confessing to a previous incident and not the particular one in question. Mind blown 👀
Boy ain’t no way at 15 I would have did that.
Never let police trick you. If they jad the evidence they said they did they wouldn't talk to you at all, they would just arrest you. Never waive your rights. Ask for a lawyer immediately and invoke your right to stay silent.
Not exactly true but still, never talk to cops.
They still want the confession!
If the boy could've been sentenced to death, these 'officers' should be charged with attemted murder, especially the 'quiet' one, for he's facillitating !
🤔😭🤮😤🤬
Cops wonder why we don’t trust them lol
Yes!!!!
The eyes aren’t even close the person who did it is older than teen. Some are unable to see their children in our children
I know that he’s a juvenile but admitting to a murder you didn’t commit is still beyond me
You have the right to remain silent everything you say can and WILL be used against you.
Can and will be twisted to use against you lol. They just need someone to be guilty. It saddens me with all the false imprisonments.
@@Yerocco For real but you have to blame people for being so stupid too.
@@SMOOVKILL1 not really. Sleep deprivation and fear can get people to say wild things. We hear people lie to us over the dumbest things daily. It doesn’t surprise me that the innocence program has saved so many people from false imprisonments. It’s so easy for us to judge and not be in that situation.
@@SMOOVKILL1he's a 15yo child. You're blaming a child?
@qwax Obviously the cop is to blame but my kids know that and it's crazy that adults don't.
Poor kid. Imagine being hauled in there and the detectives are convinced you did something and you literally don't know anything. This is just wrong
He just in that interrogation room chillin just saying boy oh boy
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The only thing I don’t like is all their commentary crap….let us just watch the interrogation video. We don’t need Blue’s Clue’s help. Lol
@@1398go especially when it was as ridiculous as this one was. " with time being of the essence officers burst through the doors of the school " 😂😂😂
Why don’t these cops get held accountable smh!
I wonder how many other ppl have confessed to crimes they didn’t actually commit due to these horrible interrogation tactics. Placing someone under extreme duress and then making them feel like their only way out is through confessing. And to do it to a minor is even worse. But him being a minor isn’t the only time something like this happens. Remember the guy who confessed to the murder of his own daughter after being placed in a similar position.
It's interesting that the victims don't seem to know what's going on. Cops can sense it. I've seen some dignified interrogators. These 2 be not them.
@@garcdonald The victim making up an entire story about discarding a weapon that he never possessed and retracing steps that he never took was bazaar to me. Every time I would hear a confession, I took that as a true admission of guilt. Now I have to start asking myself how the detectives went about getting those confessions.
More than you would think. That's why there is a national organization called The Innocence Project
He said the store clerk was threatening him and that he himself, has a temper. Why the hell would anyone agree to a story of shooting someone. I don't care he was 15. I was 15. I'd just laugh and tell they have nothing cause it wasn't me. How they get him to confess to something in story that's made up, is just crazy to me. For pokice to do it, but for the suspect to allow it.
@@cookiesnruntzeasy for you to say since you’re not in that position and I pray you never are. Being detained for 2 days and grilled for questioning while being tired can get you some interesting things. Man convinced to harming his two kids which were false. It’s easy for us to say “how in the world did you admit to that?” But we don’t truly know. I hope we don’t.
I’m confused, did this kid actually know what they were talking about? The actual situation at the dollar store? Was he just making a story with what they were saying? I need to know! 😂
This is why detectives should never be legally allowed to talk to minors! Had he not had solid proof he was playing at his game, he’d be in prison and he’d be innocent! Despicable behavior by these lying manipulative detectives!!!!
Eh I’m not feeling the female narrator. 🥴
it’s better than those boring men voices that make you fall asleep while watching these documentaries
This is so scary for others who have been interrogated by them and wrongfully convicted.
The job of a detective is to get a confession, whether you did something or not. They use all sorts of word salad to put you in the hot seat and get a confession out of you. Don't talk to them without a lawyer!
Never talk to the cops without a lawyer!!
You could tell it wasn't Martell.... The eyes were not the same, he has lighter skin, and unless he was borrowing a Madea or a Norbitt suit, his whole body shape was different. Good/Great detectives allow the "suspect" to speak for inconsiderate. They don't just tell people what they have done with no chance to answer, let alone get a word in bc the detective is over talking. That guy shouldn't be a detective, and shouldn't be doing any type of interrogations, especially high stakes charges, (unless you want a false confession. He's an awful being. That's evil to try to send a kid away for a very long time. Shame on him.
Yeah how many innocents are in jail because of this cop behaviour 😡
"im here on your behalf not his"~ says the cop who works with his buddy everyday. that alone made him sus as hell... SMH
So if I make a ridiculous false confession can I get paid too?
If i didnt do it...i dont care what you say to me. If i didnt do it, im not going to agree with anything you say. I remember being 15. I had attitude and was mouthy. I wouldnt let anyone talk me into confessing. If this kid didnt pull the trigger, he wouldnt have said he did it. I dont care what evidence in abundance you say you have, im still saying no.
You talk to cops you get fried on the electric chair innocently if you have bad luck! If you are lucky, you get out of prison after 50 years and get to hear "OH WELL HONEY, WE ARE SORRY, AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU!...........
I'm from waukegan and it's getting really bad out here. Thank you for doing this story
Of course they are suing 😂😂 anything for a quick buck
What do you mean????? They have all the right to sue...
I enjoyed this video tho & it’s info thank you for posting
There's no accountability with so many cops these days, it's outrageous! They should be fired for using Jedi mind tricks on this kid.
6’3” vs 5’6” is vastly different smh
maybe the kid shot somebody at a store sometimes and he got it confused so he confessed to a different shooting LOL
It happened to me. They literally told me to admit to something I didn’t do or go to jail!! What kind of choice is that? So I admitted to something I didn’t do, wasn’t there, didn’t know about it. But I just gave up, cuz they obviously didn’t want the truth. So I told them what they wanted to hear and I went home. I didn’t go to jail but I lost my job because of it. My mind was completely blown.
Didnt a guy recently get charged with killing his father even though his father was not even dead and the detectives found out he was alive but never told the man and still interrogated him into a confession. In Fantana, California.
Horrifying I am so scared of the tactics they use about minors damn that's messed up he should have his parents there
didn’t they check his alibi first before arrests or interrogation?
He didn't give one
I hope the department got sued, and the detective(s) got fired
WTF is wrong with these cops? And the kid, he knew he wasn't even there?
I can't get over the fact that the description of the shooter was 5"6 and this kid was over 6feet tall , so the world we live in now is the hell if we get the right person as long as we get a confession from a blk guy...smh...and yet they both still on the police force
They way the detective did most of the talking trying to convince this vulnerable child. Is sickening, the other detective watching looks very intimidating to me. Lord knows we must teach OUR children to NEVER speak with detectives without their parents or an adult they trust. What kind of society do we all live in when you can't trust the police! A very sad daily reality!
Reid technique did exactly what its always done get a confession wether they are guilty or not.
Ain't no way ain't no age I would've don't that. 😂 😂 Mane if you don't stop talking to me and call my Mama 😂 😂
Outrageous. Those two cops should lose their golden ticket, otherwise known as that taxpayer funded pension for life
This is known as the Reed Technique:
"The technique is known for creating a high pressure environment for the interviewee, followed by sympathy and offers of understanding and help, but only if a confession is forthcoming. Since its spread in the 1970s, it has been widely utilized by police departments in the United States."
1) Dont talk to the police. Get a lawyer. You are granted that right for a reason! It will *not* make you look more guilty.
2) the things you say, not just can be used against you: it will be weaponized and used against you in court. For example: you get arrested, the cop asks if you take medication. You answer honestly "Yes sir. I have ADHD and have a prescription for Adderall" .....when you get to court, you will be met with "when arrested, the suspected admitted to regularly taking amphetamines."
3) If you didnt do anything wrong, then dont say you did. Always have a lawyer present and make sure you listen to the rights being read to you! If you arent under arrest and just being questioned, oftentimes: youre free to leave. You can get up and walk out. If you stay and miss speak, you may wind-up in jail. 👍
4) when youre being read your rights, understand that even the cops are suggesting that you not talk to them
5) Cops usually can't make deals with you. So, say you arent a great human and you murdered someone. The cops will say something like "Maybe, things got outta hand. you felt threatened and defended yourself. Youre not a cold-blooded killer! Maybe you had to defend yourself and you killed them in a justifiable manner? is that what happened" ....they may already have enough evidence to convict you for murder, not self defense. All they need is for you to confirm that you did, in fact, end a person's life. They don't have to tell you what they know. They also are not lawyers or judges....so them suggesting that you could get less time or a lower charge, is often BS.
They should have tried the peace technique instead
@@sunshinedaydream70 I agree. The Reed Technique often....doesn't work. It works enough to continue being used, but.... that's why you have the right to a free attorney. They will be able to stop tactics like this.
Forcing a false admission of guilt is a constitutional rights violation, as you have the right to not self incriminate. If you are coerced into it, then it violates more rights. 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
So, I'm not sure why they risk it still... 🤔 🤷🏽♂️
This video makes it seem like they violated his rights by literally reading them to him
Waukegan, like Wilmette and Winnetka, is in the northern suburbs of Chicago, just a bit further north than the other two. It's not some small town in western or downstate Illinois... It's in Chicagoland, just south of the border with Wisconsin (and Kenosha).
This detective gives hard working law enforcement officers a terrible name, a big black eye. He should be demoted to the police station toliet bowl and urinal cleaner. He was just looking to solve the case at any cost including this young man's life. He has a lot to answer for here and when he stands before the Lord.
all detectives do this though the only difference is this manipulative tactic was against a child.. literally every detective will try to manipulate you into confessing, makes their job easier rather than spending weeks/months investigating
Where the hell is his parents??
They came out after, when it was time to sued.
@@Dee_Yameltypical racist response
“I’m here for you, not him”, says the guy who has a sheriff hoodie on. These guys are despicable
Questioning with a lawyer should be mandatory, rights should automatically invoked and not need to be requested
I hope that everyone involved in this learned a lot...especially the detectives and LE supervisors. We must do better.
kids are sooo dumb! they will lie their butts off about anything except for when it matters. they'll tell teachers call their parents but won't tell cops, especially when you already got arrested before?!
Black parents DO BETTER there is no reason a black child of ANY age shouldn’t have had the conversation with their parent of the importance of NOT speaking to COPS regardless of what they tell you. Unfortunately this is the world we live in and it better to have you kid stay silent rather than TRY to prove their innocence
The 2 Badge wearing criminals are still working,,,, that city should NOT EXSIST.
A 15 years black, American teen confessing to anything in an extremely civil interrogation is better locked up for civic wisdom.
Waukegan is not a small town. It has almost 90,000 people.
“Im here on behalf of u” wow an fing detective acting like hes a lawyer..when hes also there to nail him. They r not ur friend or care to help-they want confessions-evidence-they want a conviction!!! Some want a closed case no matter what!
.... LAND OF THE FREE.... MY ARSE😂😂😂😂 2:38
It was a black assault against a white case and the white cops raced to be hero’s !!! It’s sad that we still live in a racist stereotype world but it’s here and isn’t going anywhere soon !! The best thing we as a people can do is pray, stay focused, don’t play into there games, don’t do crimes, achieve, and live your best life !!!!
His admission to this crime leads me to believe he was confused about which one he was clearly talking about and was involved in one very similar. May not have been this exact one but clearly one that was very similar which is why he add’s details.
Nah. But nice try
incroyable cette histoire
Im confused why the kid would talk then and tell them he tvrew the gun and so forth im so confused by this
Just sad. Poor kid. This is ridiculous.
Yet he admitted to killing people.. nobody can trick you into that..
The prisons are full of people wrongly convicted because of crooked cops like this. Until you are in this situation, you don't know.
Lots of people are prone to manipulation. After two days and not realizing he was only detained it made him feel like he needed to say something to get out the room.
You're very naive or just haven't researched into this type of confession. Happens more than you think. Prolonged interrogation can make a human agree to anything to try to get out of there.
@@marnesmumyep. Texas just took a man off death row because he was wrongfully convicted
i literally live in waukegan i didnt kno this happened 😭
it is mind buggling, how the US belongs under the group of developed countries, when it is more like a Banana Republic!
These grimy cops never allowed the child to speak they kept him persuaded to just say yes and agree. I'm wondering how they were able to keep him so long because as a parent i would be suing the department since he is underage. These are how young black men are treated everywhere in America and we must be mindful to teach our sons to ask for an attorney and keep their mouths shut. This is just sad that the police are still employed when they're horrible detectives and their work shows it.
It’s not a big deal… he was 15 so even after Miranda rights were read… the kid is a minor so his parents MUST consent to their child participating in the investigation… without that consent the cops are wrong and the parents should sue… the cops shouldn’t be punished or fired though… they are supposed to figure out wtf happened… but now… of course by nonviolently destroying the rights of a child for the purpose of fighting crime could save their badges but now this kid gets A BUNCH OF MONEY!!! Congratulations Martel
Especially considering that it is legal to lie and manipulate a suspect in an interrogation, it’s absolutely ridiculous and disgusting that it’s also legal to question a minor without a lawyer or guardian there. This kid is not mentally challenged, but this reminds me of Making a Murderer when they coerced a false confession out of the slow cousin and convicted him. Kids and mentally challenged people can’t profess interrogation tactics and can be convinced to say anything.
I hope the Behavior Panel covers this.
You can solve a thousand cases correctly and in service of the community but you make one mistake and suddenly its turned into wide spread corruption. wow! tough job. By the way, suspects lie too.
I can’t believe what I just watched
Laziness to investigate
Where the hell were this kid's parents? Questioning a minor without representation OR his parents?! GTFO
This wasn’t right. Try to make him think he can go home if he admits to this shit SMFH I dont know how these police go to sleep at night
Yeah sorry but that’s not an accurate representation of the Waukegan “community”
So it's the cops fault that goofy confessed? Never mentioned he was playing basketball. So what were his real motives? What was his connection to the actual perp? What are the cops supposed to do when someone confesses to a crime?
I mean why not deny deny deny,,?
Why,,?
Why say you did it if you didn't
I mean i understand the coos manipulatuve power but geesh what a trip💫
and you wonder why there is a shortage of officers. These two should be fired for being incompetent
Why was he questioned without an adult present 🤔