Off it steams proudly pulling its own little passenger train. Oh my gosh it's so cute. Aaaah. Squeak. Excuse me, I'm a perfectly sensible middle aged woman, don't you know.
If you happen to show up at a preserved railway and intend on capturing footage for commercial reasons i.e. tv, dvds you sell, youtube channels you monetise... having set foot on the property of said preserved railway alwsys ask first. If you don't you're kinda stepping into a house that a lotta people put a lotta time, effort and money into and using it for your own gain without asking first. It's kinda bad form
@@Trainskitsetc That's true if you're line-siding for free, but I assume Jago paid for a ticket, possibly bought lunch, a souvenir and who knows what else. Also the Pug is owned by the L&Y trust, so that ought to be where people throw their money. The cat is out of the bag regarding filming and photographing preserved locos for general appraisal, as a casual perusal of this and any other heritage line will illustrate. They do need your cash however, so give generously.
@@borderlands6606 even if you buy a ticket. Ask. The terms of your being allowed in are probably available when you buy a ticket and will likely point out that no buying a ticket is a ticket to ride not to film commercially. Lead by example if you have a significant monetised youtube presence do the right thing. It gets especially insulting to peoples efforts if you happen to put libks in the description to your merch etc but fail to place a mention of where to donate to the charitable organisation you just took for a ride to make a quid. This is just industry norms, just because you realise a return via youtube over say selling a dvd by mail order in the back of a magazine doesn't mean you get a free pass to do whatever.
@@Trainskitsetc The company should explicitly state that no filming is allowed on their premises, angling clubs often do this for their waters, as do theme parks and other entertainment venues. When asking permission, who do you enquire of? The nearest volunteer? The managing director? If my experiences of heritage railways is a guide, the place is crawling with photographers and videographers, particular for "specials", few of whom will have asked permission. If the concern is a missing revenue stream, it has to be balanced against income from enthusiasts who might not turn out without the opportunity to record an event. Technology has won, for better or worse, and preserved lines are unlikely to pursue someone shooting with a smart phone who happens to get a few hits on YT - though they could make him/her feel unwelcome enough never to return. There may be individuals making big six figure incomes from videoing old locos on the sly, in which case a ban on cameras and sales of a professionally shot video might be a winner, though I doubt it.
@@borderlands6606 they often do, it's on websites, leaflets, even on the ticket sometimes however as a business, which you basically are as a commercial content producer via your youtube monetisation you should check, you stand to lose, you have responsibility, you could even have liability in some cases should something happen and thers happens to be a slater and gordon type around. This isn't new, ask Tom Scott, he's been in this game for years it's simply the done thing yet lately I see quite a few people who really should know better ignoring it and just filming where ever they want. But I get it, hard to care, it's only a charitable organisation that you're walking all over. Tune in next week for my tour of the orphanage, all proceeds go to me🤑 Just to clarify, you as an individual with no clear intentional path to profit can film for your personal pleasure, to take home and watch and do whatever with that's all cool and on the level. I am talking about showing up as someone who knows they run a monetised youtube channel, who has a clear realistic expectation of profiting from their filming. Private, no ask. Commercial intent, ask. Incidental profit down the line... moral grey area but probably sling a quid at the railway(s) that got you to the point of having a profitable youtube presence. Simples. As to how to ask, email the railways contact address, call, plan ahead just like you plan your other business activities. As to your view that its impossible to police, we the viewer can make a choice of who we watch, based on how transparent they are about the processes they go through, take chris eden green, asks for permission to film, does so commercially, is very transparent about doing so. Take sams trains, just shows up, films, doesn't care, has no clue that he needs to ask because he is just doing it to ride the trend of going out to film a railway for the views and the profit. We the consumer of this content can and should ask what the go is with the people making it if we really care about our railway heritage or the efforts of the people involved as it is ultimately they who are being used by someone for gain without asking before we get to questions of ownership of a specific loco on a specific line, it is virtually all someones voluntarism that has made it possible and that deserves this basic level of respect.
Utterly cute. I lived in Preston in the 60s where we were lucky enough to have a couple of the last Pugs for various odd duties for which their tiny wheelbase was ideal. Incidentally, those at Fleetwood were replaced by the Fowler 0-6-0 Dock Tanks which were unique.
I grew up in Zimbabwe, where stream locomotives still operated. Seeing the train take off, I could smell the smell of the train, and as it was clearing the station, I thought to myself, there's a whistle coming, and sure enough, it did. Thank you for this. I had lovely memories come back to me.
Our family was all set to emigrate to Bulawayo in the sixties as my father had a railway job lined-up there but it never happened and we remained in the U.K.
I worked with a chap from Zimbabwe for a while in 1994-95. Lovely fellow,and I felt a bit sorry for him seeing the state things had degenerated into over here even by then. He told me some stories about his past career working on the railways in Zimbabwe,including lions on the tracks,which somehow has the edge on our widely-ridiculed excuses of "leaves on the line" or "the wrong kind of snow".
I built two of these pug kits and put my initials on one and my brides initials on the other. The both decorated are wedding cake, with interlocking wheels to symbolise rings. The whole wedding was on the Midland Railway and the staff were amazed with the extra details we had gone to, with travel tickets, seat reservation cards. The staff enjoyed the day, as much as we did. To see my new wife through the steam rising from the carriages, lit by the gas lamps of the station, is a wonderful memory.
@@stephenhemingway8218 Gary from The Technical Difficulties recently cooked bacon on a shovel in the firebox of a steam engine. I won't put a link here as that always seems to get my comments auto-classified as spam, but the obvious TH-cam search will find it.
One location made famous by the,"PUGS",was the connecting lines running under Liverpool Overhead,in Liverpool,i.e.,THE DOCKERS UMBRELLA,so there was a double line setup,a photographer's delight! In the US,the Baltimore& Ohio,had their C-16 tank engine,which was the equivalent to the pugs,and their were more than a few running on US model railroads! And to close off this addendum,the New Haven,ran a dock line in Boston,using Climax geared engines,suitably boxed,to prevent horses from bolting! That was run under the Atlantic Avenue Elevated(not to be confused,with the one in Brooklyn),so now,it is abandoned,but it lives on in spirit and books,and probably some videos! Thanks Jago,and yes,those pugs are 😍cute!! Thanks again!
The L&Y Class 21 ~22 tons, B+O C-16 60 tons (120,000 pounds). Reputedly the heaviest 0-4-0's ever built. The C-16s ran in the street in Baltimore, serving the dockside warehouses, thus generally called "Docksides". Like the wood block buffers on the Pugs, the C-16's had double jointed couplers to move cars around very sharp curves into warehouses.
If there's any industrial units, new ish build houses,supermarkets, lesiure centres etc built next to a line in Lancashire you can almost guarantee it's on a former LYR siding or station, their network was that dense.
I prefer the Half Man Half Biscuit version... Time flies by when you're a driver of a train Speeding out of Trumpton with a cargo of cocaine I get high when I'm a pilot of a plane Touching down in Camberwick, I'm stoned out of my brain. Under bridges, over bridges, to our destination Careful with that spliff, Eugene, it causes condensation.
My favourite locomotives in a lot of ways. Perfect proportion, cute as **** , and when I was growing up the air fix ( nee Kitmaster) kit was 19 p in the card topped plastic bag. Superb.
The Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway has one other legacy besides pugs. In 1878, their carriages and works division, based in Newton Heath, formed a railway works football team which they called Newton Heath LYR FC. The team, which played in the company's colours of green and gold, quickly became very good, progressing rapidly through various local and regional leagues to join the Football League in 1892/93 (and dropping the LYR bit). A decade later they changed their name to Manchester United FC.
A lovely video! Now, how about a video, in your unique style, on the Stroudley Terrier? For personality and interesting history, surely the equal of the Pug? And thanks once again for your fascinating output...always delightful.
@@JagoHazzard how about just a general take on the andrew barclay 0-4-0st. Among the most important locomotives on the entire railway network given their position as first line in the process of moving coal from pit to firemans shovel. Nothing fancy moves without a very well built very hard working industrial loco setting the stage.
Takes me back to Agecroft shed 26b in the early 1960s. Also Bury Bolton street is getting very popular , Martin Zero was there the week before last, can we expect a joint venture exploring the lost culverts of London. And little Wren at the end, used to work the narrow gauge round Horwich works. You're not going all Northern are you Jago? Your going to be the whippet to my flat cap. Ps did you try the black pudding whilst in Bury . Best int world.
I've always loved the various pugs. For me, it's a combination of their adorable looks, and the fact that they can squeeze into the tightest of places. I've always seen them as the archetypical shunter as well, and while shunting is the least glamorous jobs, it's one of the most interesting and essential. For me, the Caledonian pugs are the first to spring to my mind, because of the Smokey Joe model and it's many derivatives, but any pug is a good pug. I particularly enjoy the images I've seen of Caledonian pugs with makeshift coal tenders, which I believe would make them the smallest BR tender engines, if you are willing to count such jury rigged things.
The British Aluminium (later Alcan) works in Burntisland (where i lived til i was 2 and where my grandparents lived) had two ...maybe three... small steam shunters which were called pugs. Always fascinated me on holidays in the 60s and 70s. ive no idea if they were the same class of locomotive but they lived on well beyond the end of mainline steam. The whole works has now gone and become a housing estate. Thanks for the memories, Jago
One of them survives at the railway in Brechin. Naturally in its auspicious position as preserved Peckett that worked in Scotland(seriously any want to name another?) They did the only smart thing with this slice of railway hertiage. They recently painted it as percy and left it outside for the elements to get their teeth into having had it in undercover secure storage for a long time. The other surviving loco from the burntisland system was left outside for at least 30 years to rot in the yards at boness, it has since moved out for a cosmetic restoration if I remember correctly. Both will most likely never run again because the demand for such small locos simply isn't there(the owner of the peckett owns another big 0-6-0 peckett which is down at flour mills workshop being restored according to the last I'd heard)
Bury station is forever tied to the Flying Scotsman for me. It was where I saw my Grandad drive it - a gift for his retirement (the experience clearly made an impression!) - and where we had the opportunity to take a unfortunately short trip to Rawtenstall and back last year.
Thanks for sharing, in my opinion it is because their almost similar to a narrow gauge locomotive in size, which gives them their appeal. When you look at them in LMS & BR days their cabs are full of coal boulders & almost spilling out of the cab window these are way larger than domestic sized coal we were used to. I was quite surprised to see that some of the engines had plywood sheets covering the front part of cab opening to store more coal!
@@francisboyle1739 Thank you for your comment and quick response. I am pleasantly surprised that you have done this as it something that hasn't even entered mind despite my observation! I am trying to think which Bachmann narrow gauge loco would be close to it's size. I wonder how many others have had this train of thought too? There are some lovely Southern liveried loco models depicting those that serve on the Lynton & Barnstaple, so if you haven't painted it up you could paint in either the Southern or LMS livery maybe even Crimson Lake?
@@billmmckelvie5188I know I'm not the only one who's had the idea because I've seen it mentioned somewhere that it's actually quite a popular conversion. It was something like 50 years ago that I did it so memories are a bit vague but I do know the donor chassis was from an American 0-4-0 switcher (could well have been a Bachmann). The real thing would have dwarfed a pug but in N gauge it was pretty close to a perfect match. I'm a big fan of the Talyllyn so it's painted red as a homage to the loco of that name.
I now can feel at home with one of your great videos. Living in Bolton I visit the East Lancs Railway often with its great bar and superb running days. We put a model on my sons 3rd birthday cake. Thanks.
The Pugs, like the slightly larger Terriers, seem just the right size to slip in your pocket and take home. I think it's there personable size which makes them so attractive. Thank you, as always, for an informative and entertaining video.
Absolutely awesome, these types of locomotives are seriously over looked in preference to the much more glamorous mainline express locos etc. They are very cute and you can imagine having/owning one, well I can anyway, since I visited the Bucks Railway Centre at Quainton Road, shortly after it opened in 1969. Off the top of my head, Juno and Swanscombe were our favorites to play on in the line of loco's and rolling stock. We visited there for many years, my last visit was shortly before my late Father died in July 1995. So I'm very probably overdue a visit soon!
A very CRISP video! Though I wonder if #19 has a CHIP on its shoulder over carrying passengers and that's why the SPUDDER when leaving the station. I'm all EYES for a video on another steam engine.
A lot of immigrants from northern Germany and northeast Europe to North America migrated using this line; they would take a ship from Hamburg to Hull, then the L&Y to Liverpool, and then ships from Liverpool. I guess it must have been cheaper than a direct sailing.
Aah, the kit, I wondered why this loco looked so very familiar ! And yes please Mr. Hazzard, I´d like to see the Horwich works loco, we´re slowly moving towards the likes of Heywood 👌.
Fascinating! On another matter, I have it in my head that the steam locomotive that was ferried across Lake Titicaca was made in Leeds...can you shed any light on this?
I do like the end with the even smaller engine found in the museum, the sign on it reads "Do not climb" more appropriate would be "careful not to trip over it" lovely little video this one, enjoyed with a bottle of Lansdown West Coast IPA in the Vienna woods... Well done sir 😊👍🏽
"If that's something you'd like to see." I think I speak for something like 99% of your subscribers when I say _heck yeah_ that's something I'd like to see!
Great footage - I've never seen a pug on a passenger train before. Yes, the Hornby Pug is a favourite of mine too. Now that I've fitted it with a stay-alive chip (squeezed into the tiny cab) it actually works well.
I misheard the into as "one of the dentist's rail networks of Great Britain" and spent the next few seconds wondering what dentists had to do with railways! Nice to see something outside London, more please!!
I'm amazed something so small can pull all these coaches. It's a pug alright with such tenacity. And it is so darned cute. Manchester Victoria is an amazing place. It used to have the longest platform in Europe when it literally ran a platform over the bridge across the river to join up with Exchange Station. Both stations had hitherto been separate, separated by mere yards and a railway bridge over the river (Irwell?). But amazing doesn't stop there. It has some of the spookiest labyrinths of hidden floors and subterranean passages you'd never dream could exist, so cunningly hidden and concealed from public awareness, preserved in time, snapshots of industrial activity, ghosts of the past. There are many urban exploration videos from local Mancunians, and I totally recommend you seek them out.
Well, you've done it again Uncle Jago. Slayed me with another FANTASTIC video production. Firstly about the influence of Lancashire and Yorkshire railways on the ascendency of rail as a transport leader, both for freight and commuting. Seems the north of England had it all, and wasn't backward about letting the world know. And the Pugs! they were truly cute, but early rail had a lot of cuteness to display. The locos, rolling stock, even stations. Even people may I add. How about coming up with the dome of the pugs being cundusive to cooking potatoes. How intuitive of a hungry railway chap. Had to chuckle when I saw the station identification sign...Bury Bolton Street. A lot of schoolboys would have worked that into a joke I'm sure.
A cute engine indeed. It's a pleasure to see it in action, though it was a little worrying to see it hauling two full-size bogie carriages. :) There was a very similar engine at the Barrow Hill Roundhouse when I last went, though it had spoked wheels if I remember right, and was painted burgandy. It had this remarkable visual effect of being small and cute from a distance, but surprisingly large when you were standing right next to it, at track level, while still being recognizably small and cute for a steam engine. I found it a curious sensation.
This was nice, thanks. I'd be more than happy to see you diversify into the steam railway scene, Mr Hazzard - there being more than enough heritage steam railways an hour or so from London to keep you busy making your excellent content. One of the sadder things about small locos in preservation, is that while they helped establish many a preserved heritage railway, they ended up being victims of their own success in this function on some of these lines - needing to be replaced by more powerful locomotives as passenger numbers (and coaches needing to be hauled) soared. Mind you, they are brought out for special services sometimes, and there it is a real delight watching small steam locomotives working hard, say, hauling a light freight demonstrator or a light 'Victorian train' up a gradient, such as on the Kent and East Sussex Railway at Tenterden in Kent.
I think these locos survived and have since thrived due to their looks, size and I suspect their ease of maintenance especially for smaller heritage lines. My favourite loco is Captain Baxter, another 0-4-0 that was built for the quarries at Betchworth on the north downs and now is at the Bluebell. That only recently hauled its first passenger train (needed a new braking system!) Always happy to see videos like this on your channel 👍🏻
Nice video, sir. It was good to see the Pug out and about, even for the few moments you could fit in here. Certainly, I'd like to hear the story of the other footage on that other locomotive some time. Thanks and Keep Safe. Cheers!
They ran a steam train from Brisbane to Charleville several years ago , which was a bit of a production , they had to have water trucks from each of the town and shire councils along the way as well as supply dumps of coal , it was a cool event though.
Quality TH-cam! I enjoyed every second of it. Nice to hear a bit of L&Y history as well. Would love to see another video. Thank you so much for sharing this.
You say the Lancashire and Yorkshire are the densest railway network. Are you therefore a proponent of the old rhyme which opines that Yorkshire born and Yorkshire bred people are more notable for their brawn?
kinda fun seeing such a small loco haul carriges bigger than it like that, reminds me of the rare times Queenslands oldest Steam loco in the A10 class number 6 did a mainline run hauling i think 2 carriges.
I do remember a photograph in, I think, the erstwhile 'Railway World', of a largish dome cover employed as a cement mixing pot; not as homely as a potato boiler.
I will always show up for any video of elderly steam locomotives - I have a definite soft spot for them - so yes, please, do put that other footage to good use!
Every time you mention LMS, I'm reminded of my childhood in Leicester in the 1950s where the Thames Clyde express was the mid day treat for us spotters. I've not heard it mentioned in your videos that I've watched. The Great Northern ran a line into Belgrave Road terminus, close to my home, which ran holiday specials under BR to the East coast. Leamington Spa was a good day out to see Western region trains. My gg grandfather was a glass worker who moved from Waterford and married at St Mary's church in Whitechapel in 1859, so you really hit the spot talking about those places and sand across the river. I was told in no uncertain terms that Bury is pronounced Burry. Love your vids.
Brings back memories of these chugging along under the Liverpool Overhead Railway (interspersed with simlar Mersey Dock and Harbour Board locos), which I recall you also covered recently. Good to see some items outside London! 👍 Many thanks.
That tilework route map at Victoria station shows one location which is NOT a railway station - Ellerbeck Colliery. Incidentally, at one point you could buy a through ticket from Londonderry to Copenhagen, travelling entirely with the L&Y.
Off it steams proudly pulling its own little passenger train. Oh my gosh it's so cute. Aaaah. Squeak. Excuse me, I'm a perfectly sensible middle aged woman, don't you know.
Shout out to all of the great people behind the scenes so to speak that rarely get the recognition for keeping history alive and looking new.
If you happen to show up at a preserved railway and intend on capturing footage for commercial reasons i.e. tv, dvds you sell, youtube channels you monetise... having set foot on the property of said preserved railway alwsys ask first. If you don't you're kinda stepping into a house that a lotta people put a lotta time, effort and money into and using it for your own gain without asking first. It's kinda bad form
@@Trainskitsetc That's true if you're line-siding for free, but I assume Jago paid for a ticket, possibly bought lunch, a souvenir and who knows what else. Also the Pug is owned by the L&Y trust, so that ought to be where people throw their money. The cat is out of the bag regarding filming and photographing preserved locos for general appraisal, as a casual perusal of this and any other heritage line will illustrate. They do need your cash however, so give generously.
@@borderlands6606 even if you buy a ticket. Ask.
The terms of your being allowed in are probably available when you buy a ticket and will likely point out that no buying a ticket is a ticket to ride not to film commercially.
Lead by example if you have a significant monetised youtube presence do the right thing. It gets especially insulting to peoples efforts if you happen to put libks in the description to your merch etc but fail to place a mention of where to donate to the charitable organisation you just took for a ride to make a quid.
This is just industry norms, just because you realise a return via youtube over say selling a dvd by mail order in the back of a magazine doesn't mean you get a free pass to do whatever.
@@Trainskitsetc The company should explicitly state that no filming is allowed on their premises, angling clubs often do this for their waters, as do theme parks and other entertainment venues. When asking permission, who do you enquire of? The nearest volunteer? The managing director? If my experiences of heritage railways is a guide, the place is crawling with photographers and videographers, particular for "specials", few of whom will have asked permission.
If the concern is a missing revenue stream, it has to be balanced against income from enthusiasts who might not turn out without the opportunity to record an event. Technology has won, for better or worse, and preserved lines are unlikely to pursue someone shooting with a smart phone who happens to get a few hits on YT - though they could make him/her feel unwelcome enough never to return. There may be individuals making big six figure incomes from videoing old locos on the sly, in which case a ban on cameras and sales of a professionally shot video might be a winner, though I doubt it.
@@borderlands6606 they often do, it's on websites, leaflets, even on the ticket sometimes however as a business, which you basically are as a commercial content producer via your youtube monetisation you should check, you stand to lose, you have responsibility, you could even have liability in some cases should something happen and thers happens to be a slater and gordon type around.
This isn't new, ask Tom Scott, he's been in this game for years it's simply the done thing yet lately I see quite a few people who really should know better ignoring it and just filming where ever they want.
But I get it, hard to care, it's only a charitable organisation that you're walking all over. Tune in next week for my tour of the orphanage, all proceeds go to me🤑
Just to clarify, you as an individual with no clear intentional path to profit can film for your personal pleasure, to take home and watch and do whatever with that's all cool and on the level. I am talking about showing up as someone who knows they run a monetised youtube channel, who has a clear realistic expectation of profiting from their filming.
Private, no ask. Commercial intent, ask. Incidental profit down the line... moral grey area but probably sling a quid at the railway(s) that got you to the point of having a profitable youtube presence. Simples.
As to how to ask, email the railways contact address, call, plan ahead just like you plan your other business activities.
As to your view that its impossible to police, we the viewer can make a choice of who we watch, based on how transparent they are about the processes they go through, take chris eden green, asks for permission to film, does so commercially, is very transparent about doing so.
Take sams trains, just shows up, films, doesn't care, has no clue that he needs to ask because he is just doing it to ride the trend of going out to film a railway for the views and the profit.
We the consumer of this content can and should ask what the go is with the people making it if we really care about our railway heritage or the efforts of the people involved as it is ultimately they who are being used by someone for gain without asking before we get to questions of ownership of a specific loco on a specific line, it is virtually all someones voluntarism that has made it possible and that deserves this basic level of respect.
Thanks for giving the LYR its due and this nigh on adorable little engine.
Utterly cute. I lived in Preston in the 60s where we were lucky enough to have a couple of the last Pugs for various odd duties for which their tiny wheelbase was ideal. Incidentally, those at Fleetwood were replaced by the Fowler 0-6-0 Dock Tanks which were unique.
I grew up in Zimbabwe, where stream locomotives still operated. Seeing the train take off, I could smell the smell of the train, and as it was clearing the station, I thought to myself, there's a whistle coming, and sure enough, it did. Thank you for this. I had lovely memories come back to me.
Our family was all set to emigrate to Bulawayo in the sixties as my father had a railway job lined-up there but it never happened and we remained in the U.K.
I worked with a chap from Zimbabwe for a while in 1994-95. Lovely fellow,and I felt a bit sorry for him seeing the state things had degenerated into over here even by then. He told me some stories about his past career working on the railways in Zimbabwe,including lions on the tracks,which somehow has the edge on our widely-ridiculed excuses of "leaves on the line" or "the wrong kind of snow".
@@rjjcms1 I can just imagine that🤣🤣🤣, or there might have been elephants. But yes, Zimbabwe had deteriorated sharply since then.
I built two of these pug kits and put my initials on one and my brides initials on the other. The both decorated are wedding cake, with interlocking wheels to symbolise rings. The whole wedding was on the Midland Railway and the staff were amazed with the extra details we had gone to, with travel tickets, seat reservation cards. The staff enjoyed the day, as much as we did. To see my new wife through the steam rising from the carriages, lit by the gas lamps of the station, is a wonderful memory.
Jago, you've just given me a wonderful idea... *Pugs Baked Potatos* freshly baked on specially designed renewable energy locomotives.
They could've also nicknamed these engines the Potato Bakers.
many a steam loco was used to cook breakfast on, main requirement was a clean shovel
@@andyjay729 The Tater Freighters!
Get Greggs on the phone!
@@stephenhemingway8218 Gary from The Technical Difficulties recently cooked bacon on a shovel in the firebox of a steam engine. I won't put a link here as that always seems to get my comments auto-classified as spam, but the obvious TH-cam search will find it.
One location made famous by the,"PUGS",was the connecting lines running under Liverpool Overhead,in Liverpool,i.e.,THE DOCKERS UMBRELLA,so there was a double line setup,a photographer's delight! In the US,the Baltimore& Ohio,had their C-16 tank engine,which was the equivalent to the pugs,and their were more than a few running on US model railroads! And to close off this addendum,the New Haven,ran a dock line in Boston,using Climax geared engines,suitably boxed,to prevent horses from bolting! That was run under the Atlantic Avenue Elevated(not to be confused,with the one in Brooklyn),so now,it is abandoned,but it lives on in spirit and books,and probably some videos! Thanks Jago,and yes,those pugs are 😍cute!! Thanks again!
The L&Y Class 21 ~22 tons, B+O C-16 60 tons (120,000 pounds). Reputedly the heaviest 0-4-0's ever built. The C-16s ran in the street in Baltimore, serving the dockside warehouses, thus generally called "Docksides". Like the wood block buffers on the Pugs, the C-16's had double jointed couplers to move cars around very sharp curves into warehouses.
My love of potatoes is even greater than my love of trains; thanks for uniting them!
Pugs are some of the cutest tank engines ever.
If there's any industrial units, new ish build houses,supermarkets, lesiure centres etc built next to a line in Lancashire you can almost guarantee it's on a former LYR siding or station, their network was that dense.
Adorable locomotive and video. Your command of language is most excellent.
Time flies by when I'm the driver of a train
And I ride on the footplate there and back again
I prefer the Half Man Half Biscuit version...
Time flies by when you're a driver of a train
Speeding out of Trumpton with a cargo of cocaine
I get high when I'm a pilot of a plane
Touching down in Camberwick, I'm stoned out of my brain.
Under bridges, over bridges, to our destination
Careful with that spliff, Eugene, it causes condensation.
Lord Bellborough Me Brackett and Bessie . My childhood.... There and back again
Wait till you see Sir Berkley at Middleton before you sing that
My favourite locomotives in a lot of ways. Perfect proportion, cute as **** , and when I was growing up the air fix ( nee Kitmaster) kit was 19 p in the card topped plastic bag. Superb.
The Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway has one other legacy besides pugs. In 1878, their carriages and works division, based in Newton Heath, formed a railway works football team which they called Newton Heath LYR FC. The team, which played in the company's colours of green and gold, quickly became very good, progressing rapidly through various local and regional leagues to join the Football League in 1892/93 (and dropping the LYR bit). A decade later they changed their name to Manchester United FC.
A lovely video! Now, how about a video, in your unique style, on the Stroudley Terrier? For personality and interesting history, surely the equal of the Pug? And thanks once again for your fascinating output...always delightful.
Already done the Terriers!
How about the SECR P class?
@@JagoHazzard
Wow! How did I miss this? I’ll find it - thanks.
@@JagoHazzard how about just a general take on the andrew barclay 0-4-0st.
Among the most important locomotives on the entire railway network given their position as first line in the process of moving coal from pit to firemans shovel. Nothing fancy moves without a very well built very hard working industrial loco setting the stage.
I adore little industrial locos like this. Pecketts and Andrew Barclays as well.
I have a relative soft spot for the L&YR. They made some pretty nice locos.
I should like to see another as I enjoyed this one .
Awwwww they’re so cute and glad they’re still around
Just booked a trip to the ELR next Thursday and suddenly this video pops up.
Takes me back to Agecroft shed 26b in the early 1960s. Also Bury Bolton street is getting very popular , Martin Zero was there the week before last, can we expect a joint venture exploring the lost culverts of London. And little Wren at the end, used to work the narrow gauge round Horwich works. You're not going all Northern are you Jago? Your going to be the whippet to my flat cap. Ps did you try the black pudding whilst in Bury . Best int world.
And dont forget the Temperance Bar in Rawtenstall
That is a cute loco! Thanks for showing us!
I've always loved the various pugs. For me, it's a combination of their adorable looks, and the fact that they can squeeze into the tightest of places. I've always seen them as the archetypical shunter as well, and while shunting is the least glamorous jobs, it's one of the most interesting and essential. For me, the Caledonian pugs are the first to spring to my mind, because of the Smokey Joe model and it's many derivatives, but any pug is a good pug. I particularly enjoy the images I've seen of Caledonian pugs with makeshift coal tenders, which I believe would make them the smallest BR tender engines, if you are willing to count such jury rigged things.
Now craving a dome-baked potato. Those Pugs are gorgeous!
The British Aluminium (later Alcan) works in Burntisland (where i lived til i was 2 and where my grandparents lived) had two ...maybe three... small steam shunters which were called pugs. Always fascinated me on holidays in the 60s and 70s. ive no idea if they were the same class of locomotive but they lived on well beyond the end of mainline steam. The whole works has now gone and become a housing estate. Thanks for the memories, Jago
One of them survives at the railway in Brechin. Naturally in its auspicious position as preserved Peckett that worked in Scotland(seriously any want to name another?) They did the only smart thing with this slice of railway hertiage. They recently painted it as percy and left it outside for the elements to get their teeth into having had it in undercover secure storage for a long time.
The other surviving loco from the burntisland system was left outside for at least 30 years to rot in the yards at boness, it has since moved out for a cosmetic restoration if I remember correctly. Both will most likely never run again because the demand for such small locos simply isn't there(the owner of the peckett owns another big 0-6-0 peckett which is down at flour mills workshop being restored according to the last I'd heard)
I always wait till the end to hear what the Patreons are...to his... This time it was one of the best!
this one named pugs make me imagine a fleet of train named after breeds of dogs and each have similar characteristics with their namesake
Well, there are also Terriers, Bulldogs and Greyhounds.
@@JagoHazzard wonderful fact from Jago make my day brighter! thank you~!!
Bury station is forever tied to the Flying Scotsman for me. It was where I saw my Grandad drive it - a gift for his retirement (the experience clearly made an impression!) - and where we had the opportunity to take a unfortunately short trip to Rawtenstall and back last year.
Thanks for sharing, in my opinion it is because their almost similar to a narrow gauge locomotive in size, which gives them their appeal. When you look at them in LMS & BR days their cabs are full of coal boulders & almost spilling out of the cab window these are way larger than domestic sized coal we were used to. I was quite surprised to see that some of the engines had plywood sheets covering the front part of cab opening to store more coal!
I have, in a box somewhere, an Airfix Pug sitting on an N gauge chassis. It makes a pretty decent narrow gauge loco even if it's a probably bit wide.
@@francisboyle1739 Thank you for your comment and quick response. I am pleasantly surprised that you have done this as it something that hasn't even entered mind despite my observation! I am trying to think which Bachmann narrow gauge loco would be close to it's size. I wonder how many others have had this train of thought too? There are some lovely Southern liveried loco models depicting those that serve on the Lynton & Barnstaple, so if you haven't painted it up you could paint in either the Southern or LMS livery maybe even Crimson Lake?
@@billmmckelvie5188I know I'm not the only one who's had the idea because I've seen it mentioned somewhere that it's actually quite a popular conversion. It was something like 50 years ago that I did it so memories are a bit vague but I do know the donor chassis was from an American 0-4-0 switcher (could well have been a Bachmann). The real thing would have dwarfed a pug but in N gauge it was pretty close to a perfect match. I'm a big fan of the Talyllyn so it's painted red as a homage to the loco of that name.
Dont forget Pug (and Jinty) were needed to fill in on the Sodor Railway when Edward, Gordon and company were sent to the great railway show.
I now can feel at home with one of your great videos. Living in Bolton I visit the East Lancs Railway often with its great bar and superb running days. We put a model on my sons 3rd birthday cake. Thanks.
Good to see you enjoyed your time up here. Bury is a gem for old railway gubbins!
The Pugs, like the slightly larger Terriers, seem just the right size to slip in your pocket and take home. I think it's there personable size which makes them so attractive. Thank you, as always, for an informative and entertaining video.
Absolutely awesome, these types of locomotives are seriously over looked in preference to the much more glamorous mainline express locos etc. They are very cute and you can imagine having/owning one, well I can anyway, since I visited the Bucks Railway Centre at Quainton Road, shortly after it opened in 1969. Off the top of my head, Juno and Swanscombe were our favorites to play on in the line of loco's and rolling stock. We visited there for many years, my last visit was shortly before my late Father died in July 1995. So I'm very probably overdue a visit soon!
What an adorable train!!
A very CRISP video! Though I wonder if #19 has a CHIP on its shoulder over carrying passengers and that's why the SPUDDER when leaving the station. I'm all EYES for a video on another steam engine.
Awwww, look at that plucky lil' loco do its best trying to haul three passenger carriages! You can do it, little buddy!
I wonder how one would look painted green, with a triple whistle cobbled together from old church organ pipes...
"Ivor" feeling it would be popular.
I'm here all week...
A lot of immigrants from northern Germany and northeast Europe to North America migrated using this line; they would take a ship from Hamburg to Hull, then the L&Y to Liverpool, and then ships from Liverpool. I guess it must have been cheaper than a direct sailing.
Lovely little Fella. So yes, lat's see that other small loco video soon. Thanks Jago.
They let you outside of London again, I see ;)
Would definitely be interested in footage of any other elderly locos that you have!
eve the cars are adorable. It's like a mother duck an her ducklings
"Umble we are, umble we have been, umble we shall ever be,' " More of your excellent words please.
Aah, the kit, I wondered why this loco looked so very familiar ! And yes please Mr. Hazzard, I´d like to see the Horwich works loco, we´re slowly moving towards the likes of Heywood 👌.
Yes I had the kit too - IIRC the plastic was black so you didn't have to paint it
Fascinating!
On another matter, I have it in my head that the steam locomotive that was ferried across Lake Titicaca was made in Leeds...can you shed any light on this?
I do like the end with the even smaller engine found in the museum, the sign on it reads "Do not climb" more appropriate would be "careful not to trip over it" lovely little video this one, enjoyed with a bottle of Lansdown West Coast IPA in the Vienna woods... Well done sir 😊👍🏽
"If that's something you'd like to see."
I think I speak for something like 99% of your subscribers when I say _heck yeah_ that's something I'd like to see!
Great footage - I've never seen a pug on a passenger train before. Yes, the Hornby Pug is a favourite of mine too. Now that I've fitted it with a stay-alive chip (squeezed into the tiny cab) it actually works well.
Beautiful
I misheard the into as "one of the dentist's rail networks of Great Britain" and spent the next few seconds wondering what dentists had to do with railways!
Nice to see something outside London, more please!!
You missed out on a golden opportunity to make a pun about the pugs being underdogs...
I love your steam-powered content.
Cheers.
I'm amazed something so small can pull all these coaches. It's a pug alright with such tenacity. And it is so darned cute.
Manchester Victoria is an amazing place. It used to have the longest platform in Europe when it literally ran a platform over the bridge across the river to join up with Exchange Station. Both stations had hitherto been separate, separated by mere yards and a railway bridge over the river (Irwell?).
But amazing doesn't stop there. It has some of the spookiest labyrinths of hidden floors and subterranean passages you'd never dream could exist, so cunningly hidden and concealed from public awareness, preserved in time, snapshots of industrial activity, ghosts of the past.
There are many urban exploration videos from local Mancunians, and I totally recommend you seek them out.
I knew it was a saddle tank engine before you said it, thanks to your previous video explaining different engine types!
Thanks for doing these videos. Love seeing how steam heritage is being kept alive. From the smallest to largest more famous engines.
Ahh yes Jago, you've come North.... lots of historic stories for you here
Well, you've done it again Uncle Jago. Slayed me with another FANTASTIC video production. Firstly about the influence of Lancashire and
Yorkshire railways on the ascendency of rail as a transport leader, both for freight and commuting. Seems the north of England had it all, and
wasn't backward about letting the world know. And the Pugs! they were truly cute, but early rail had a lot of cuteness to display. The locos,
rolling stock, even stations. Even people may I add. How about coming up with the dome of the pugs being cundusive to cooking potatoes.
How intuitive of a hungry railway chap. Had to chuckle when I saw the station identification sign...Bury Bolton Street. A lot of schoolboys
would have worked that into a joke I'm sure.
A cute engine indeed. It's a pleasure to see it in action, though it was a little worrying to see it hauling two full-size bogie carriages. :)
There was a very similar engine at the Barrow Hill Roundhouse when I last went, though it had spoked wheels if I remember right, and was painted burgandy. It had this remarkable visual effect of being small and cute from a distance, but surprisingly large when you were standing right next to it, at track level, while still being recognizably small and cute for a steam engine. I found it a curious sensation.
The buffers are made of wood but a sheet of steel covers them. Great video Sir 👍🏼
It is an adorable little engine. As i am elderly i say yes please to another elderly engine !:-)
💜🙏⚡️
This was nice, thanks. I'd be more than happy to see you diversify into the steam railway scene, Mr Hazzard - there being more than enough heritage steam railways an hour or so from London to keep you busy making your excellent content.
One of the sadder things about small locos in preservation, is that while they helped establish many a preserved heritage railway, they ended up being victims of their own success in this function on some of these lines - needing to be replaced by more powerful locomotives as passenger numbers (and coaches needing to be hauled) soared. Mind you, they are brought out for special services sometimes, and there it is a real delight watching small steam locomotives working hard, say, hauling a light freight demonstrator or a light 'Victorian train' up a gradient, such as on the Kent and East Sussex Railway at Tenterden in Kent.
I think these locos survived and have since thrived due to their looks, size and I suspect their ease of maintenance especially for smaller heritage lines.
My favourite loco is Captain Baxter, another 0-4-0 that was built for the quarries at Betchworth on the north downs and now is at the Bluebell. That only recently hauled its first passenger train (needed a new braking system!)
Always happy to see videos like this on your channel 👍🏻
I THINK I CAN.... in endless loop! MORE elderly steam locos please. Thanks Jago!
Nice video, sir. It was good to see the Pug out and about, even for the few moments you could fit in here. Certainly, I'd like to hear the story of the other footage on that other locomotive some time. Thanks and Keep Safe. Cheers!
Me and my daughter making a cameo walking past the wonderful pug. Brilliant 👏
What a great little engine.
Learning about a locomotive is always my favourite thing for a video.
They ran a steam train from Brisbane to Charleville several years ago , which was a bit of a production , they had to have water trucks from each of the town and shire councils along the way as well as supply dumps of coal , it was a cool event though.
Small is beautiful & does the job to a T.
Quality TH-cam! I enjoyed every second of it. Nice to hear a bit of L&Y history as well. Would love to see another video. Thank you so much for sharing this.
A step back in time with the enigmatic Jago Hazzard !
Nice to see you round our way R'kid.
The Super Sentinel would be a good one too
You say the Lancashire and Yorkshire are the densest railway network. Are you therefore a proponent of the old rhyme which opines that Yorkshire born and Yorkshire bred people are more notable for their brawn?
If you ever get the chance go to the industrial museum in Bradford, Nelly the original train from the rail way children is in there.
0:26
I like that the panning of the camera makes it look like "Hull" has been changed to "Hell"
:D
kinda fun seeing such a small loco haul carriges bigger than it like that, reminds me of the rare times Queenslands oldest Steam loco in the A10 class number 6 did a mainline run hauling i think 2 carriges.
I do remember a photograph in, I think, the erstwhile 'Railway World', of a largish dome cover employed as a cement mixing pot; not as homely as a potato boiler.
I will always show up for any video of elderly steam locomotives - I have a definite soft spot for them - so yes, please, do put that other footage to good use!
Thanks, I'm hungry now. Need to track down a suitable potato.
Every time you mention LMS, I'm reminded of my childhood in Leicester in the 1950s where the Thames Clyde express was the mid day treat for us spotters. I've not heard it mentioned in your videos that I've watched. The Great Northern ran a line into Belgrave Road terminus, close to my home, which ran holiday specials under BR to the East coast. Leamington Spa was a good day out to see Western region trains.
My gg grandfather was a glass worker who moved from Waterford and married at St Mary's church in Whitechapel in 1859, so you really hit the spot talking about those places and sand across the river. I was told in no uncertain terms that Bury is pronounced Burry. Love your vids.
James Watt, Watches Kettle , Inspired to Make a Steam Engine. LandY Driver, Uses Steam Locomotive to Make Tea.
Thank you Sir , for making this happen ! And the stranger or odd engines please , or any other really. Cheers from California !
Brings back memories of these chugging along under the Liverpool Overhead Railway (interspersed with simlar Mersey Dock and Harbour Board locos), which I recall you also covered recently. Good to see some items outside London! 👍 Many thanks.
And little lambs eat ivy.
As a Manc and occasional ELR passenger, it's a nice surprise to see some familiar local stations here 😃
More? Yes please!
I had a train set like that Pug and those wagons when I wor a lad.
Everyone loves an underdog...pug, geddit? I'll get my coat.
Great video 👍
In case anyone is interested, Pug no. 19 should be running at the East Lancashire Railway steam gala on 14th to 16th October
Trust us northerners to find a way to make it bake potatoes. 😁
I guess you could warm up a Hollands meat and potato pie there too.
I will be happy to watch anything you want o make on steam machines, on or off rails.
It's a real life toy, that why everyone loves them.
It's smaller than many narrow gauge locomotives ^^'
Definitely more of these please Jago!
Sadly the foundry is no longer it's a housing estate now. but the workers cottages still exit nd I live in one of them
Plucky and adorable 👏👏👍😀
That tilework route map at Victoria station shows one location which is NOT a railway station - Ellerbeck Colliery. Incidentally, at one point you could buy a through ticket from Londonderry to Copenhagen, travelling entirely with the L&Y.
This was one of your best videos to date.
Potato Cooker. No limit to Victorian ingenuity! Now, about the gunpowder van...that should have rated a mention.
Yes! More Steam Locomotives! Also, perhaps you could do a locomotive cooking video? I could do with some recipes! 🤣