As a local Florida diver, I will state that your assertion at 14:00, that artificial reefs do not benefit the fish populations, is not consistent with my personal observations. The tires were a bad idea, but other reefs that were made from bridge sections, ships, and other items, have formed useful habitats that have been productive.
The tires are actually very efficient fuel… ground up and mixed with cole, creates an extremely hot fuel mixture.. and with the new technology air scrubbers, cleaner than any other type of disposal… same with plastic.. both are Freeeeee Fuel!!!
Works really good on a small scale. It’s the oldest trick in the book for stocking a small pond with new fry. Chain a bunch of tires together with a couple of cinderblocks. Throw them in the water just off the bank. Voilà. The larger fish can’t eat up the fry, and your fish population explodes.
Careful. If you investigate too deeply you'll end up labeled a far right extremist for having the audacity to point blame at a small group of sociopaths that keep boasting about their evil deeds. @@robertbolino9052
Profit is a strong motivation, but not the only one. For example, if you volunteer you are still getting things done without a profit motive. The problem with profit as your only motivation is that it also easily leads to perverse outcomes like out of control pollution, not to mention (at times) illegality. Profit continually leads to apathy and misery if the wealth is concentrated. A rising tide should lift all boats. If you have a society (say) like the USA where wealth is super-concentrated you can easily find plenty of misery and poverty.
I used to fish lobster on the west coast of Scotland and a farmer took hundreds of used tires put concrete in the bottom of the tires so they would sit up under the water after a few years this reef he made became the best spot to catch fish and lobster so it does work if done right barnicles Formed round them and because the concrete they did not drift in the tides and stayed where they were put and eventually formed a reef it just takes a farmer to figure it out
We really do need to get a grip. I've lived on the ocean my whole life and the loss of reefs, wild life & trash I pick up out of the water on a daily basis just sickens me😢 We need to stop shitting in our nest people!!!!!!
Have you been diving in the Dominican Republic? I did a two-tank dive on the south shore of the DR and was puzzled by the lack of fish/wildlife AND the strange, gray'ish color of the coral. I also noticed, literally dozens of cans and plastic bottles all around the coral formations! So I managed to sneak away from the team (I stayed within sight of the group). When it was time to surface, I still had over 800 pounds of air, and I noticed that the anchor was stuck and everyone was on the surface except me and the dive master. I signaled him that I would get the anchor loose, and he and I went to work on it. That's when I realized why the coral was all dead and there was no fish! The anchor was lodged IN the coral, AND the line was wrapped around a huge coral head. I freed the anchor (with help from the dive master) and we surfaced. IMMEDIATELY I noticed a concrete anchor bouy not 500 feet away, and it was embedded in sand! So, naturally, I said something to the dive master and he said, and I quote: "The coral around here is all like that." 😳 I've been diving since 1970, and I've always been taught, and I respected that teaching, that you NEVER touch coral! (We've all hit it on occasion, but we certainly try not to) The people of the DR have ZERO respect for the eco system of the ocean, and the vast majority of the coral is dead and trash litters the ocean floor. On the bus back to the resort, I was struck by the amount of litter, especially plastic, on the sides of the roads. I've never been diving anywhere so dirty in my entire life. My advice to anyone who likes to snorkel or dive is: STAY AWAY FROM THE DR!
@@Katsojay is that it? Your whole response?no reason no logic not even an opinion as to why the people making things better shouldn’t make a little profit for their efforts?
@@roysnider3456 don't mind this katsojoy person. They are the typical liberal they think the government should just print money and hand it out to anyone who claims to make the world safer and more eko. Never mind us greedy humans that have to live on earth. Why do we need to make a profit ?...when the government can just print more money!!!!!!!
Just imagine how comfortable your ride on the highway would be if they ground up all those tires and mixed it with asphalt to pave new roads. Recycling this way would be a great way to get rid of used tires.
They've been talking about doing just that since the 1960s as a "miracle solution" for the Tire Problem, much like the artificial reef "miracle solution". It's actually been done - Arizona piloted programs for it with some success, but there's always a problem, and in the case of mixing ground tires into asphalt, the benefits are that it's a smoother ride, sound pollution gets reduced, and you make some of the tires disappear, but it requires energy and CO2 to grind all those tires up, and the resulting asphalt mix is notoriously unstable, with the asphalt easily breaking down under various conditions unless more chemical goop gets mixed in. And as usual, a lot of these sorts of problems - toxicity, unsustainability, breakdown of materials over time into new problems, and so on - often take years, decades, or generations to appear, so that future generations can slap their foreheads and ask "what were they thinking, trying to do good this way???" In any event, it looks like this "miracle solution" never really went away, they're still putting research and development into it, and who knows? Maybe they'll find a way to make it work eventually in a way that creates fewer problems than it solves. Good luck to them!
@@pietrayday9915 There have been a number of breakthroughs in recycling or getting rid of plastics and other misc petroleum based products. Microbes, worms, novel chemical reactions, all kinds of research is going on. I wouldn't be too surprised if in the next 10 years something really interesting happens on the recycling front.
Conventional issues require unconventional solutions. This is why so many things are going wrong today. No one able to think outside their own litter boxes anymore.
As a structural engineer, I have learned that complicated problems usually have a simple solution. If we step back and look at the "Big Picture", we are able to see the root cause of the problem 👍🏼 We start there...
@@Skyskwatch297 We have Tide pod eaters, Flat earthers and more pronouns than we can shake a stick at. Common sense, not so common anymore. Simple solutions, not so simple. People now step back just to get a better angle for their videos.
And, all those useless covid masks being discarded, clogging the seas. And the idea of the 1960s Hippies making people think of the environment? Yeah, just google up pics of Yashur's Farm right after Woodstock. 😂
Radiation was well understood when they dumped all that nuclear waste, giving a generous 20 years for those barrels to rust and release, I bet you could find a strong correlation between cancer and seafood enjoyment over the last 40 years.
My husband worked at a naval shipyard for a while. He was part of the crew that decommissioned the ships and prepared them to be sunk. AKA target practice. He asked his boss why they don't scrap them. His boss told him because it costs more to scrap them.
They should have been scrapped. Our Federal Government has an excuse rather than a solid solution for every problem...and THEY are the problem. I agree that those responsible, ie Goodyear, should be held accountable for cleaning that mess up. Unfortunately since the EPA is a Government agency, that will never happen. They're as effective as the FDA is with BIG PHARMA. On my not so humble opinion. ~APRIL LIPKE
Don't sunk ships actually make good artificial reefs? I have heard of them being sunk purposely for that reason, but with better results than the tire idea. Though when they do it deliberately for a reef they remove all the potentially polluting things like motor oil and fuel and all that, I'm guessing that might not have been a priority for the military just looking to get rid of obsolete ships.🤷 lol of course I posted this right at the end of the video 😂
It is. But I am a bit critical about him lecturing about the co2 emissions this memorial generates. I mean, he wouldn't do an episode showing how much pollution his videos are generating, would he?
As a Navy Veteran I can assure you that we sink old ships all the time.We call it a SINKEX (Sink Exercise). When a ship gets too old and repairing it or refurbishing it is too expensive we strip it down of anything that can be repurposed and tow it out to the middle of the ocean (or where ever they want a new reef). Then shoot all our ammo that is about to go bad and can't be safely stored anymore and sink it. This disposes of old ammo and the ship, gives the newer crew members experience in live fire situations, and (supposedly) creates healthy new reefs for the fishes. The USS Crommelin, FFG 37, (my old ship) was sunk off the coast of Hawaii in July 26, 2016. Footnote: They left a lot of equipment onboard and I don't know why!
This may be a good idea for military forces, solving 2 problems at the same time. But we need to consider the fact that the environment may not agree. If we can build new ships and ammo, why cant we use a non profitable shipyard to break down old ships instead of sinking or sending them to Africa for breakdown? Something is wrong with our economic models when we cant take care of the products we produce. I am not one of these crazy environmentalists, but I do realize thar other things than CO2 is a bigger problem to the world. Mercury, Lead, plastics in water, Rubber, radioactive waste etc needs to be taken care of as well. USA have paid Russia a lot of money to scrap old Submarine ships in Murmansk.
@@funpau7549 Yes, you have a point there. During the dark ages, people had their drinking wells to close to dirty mottes (incl fecal mattet) around water castles. Which resulted in all sorts of diseases. Up until 1970 or so, the world regarded our seas as self-emptying waste bins. When the austronauts sat on the moon and looked back at the earth, they started to question this, becoming early environmentists. Jim Hansen at Nasa was one of them. It will take a long time, but today we are aware of the situation, and there will be inventions to improve things. I think Energy and Freshwater needs to be prioritized for industrialized countries. For developing countries freshwater, toilets, education and planting forests into deserts to increase living standards without Carbon pollution might be prioritized.
I swam the bow of the Beagle off of Key Largo, very cool/eerie environment around ~160ft below surface. Did the Captain Morgan pose on one of the barrels still strung up on deck and won a free cask of rum.
You have something on your nose (it's brown) The irony though is that it was far from keeping it real and one only needs to recognize the multiple attacks on Florida which were gratuitous at best. Enjoy your red pills
I'm so glad he's bringing up the implications of attempts to help the environment that don't quite fix the bigger problems. I almost wanted to be part of the cremains artificial reef project before he brought this to my attention.
For a channel who typically just made a compilation of interesting stuff, this was an unusually great video filled with a lot of actual substance and even encouraging thought about the relationship between environmentalism and politics. I have never seen this channel do something like this. Kudos!!!!
I was in Florida in2021, after COVID-19; I did not have any knowledge of it. Thanks be to god. However, as a civil engineer, I’ve witnessed sea blooms of the sargassum in the ocean. Before removing the tires, and after seeing the chemical damages were already done, thoughts from soil science is to reset the entire product beneath a hot bed of soils. Such would be a tanker that churns hot soil to do the same as the posts of tires. The results would be land reclamation. The chemical spoilage would be converted by soils, the number one organic converting mechanism. Picking the tires out is just for people who have hurt small pretty fish, and apparently they have really stunted it for hundreds of years. If you have already allowed the damage, the damage is somewhat irreversible, so reclaiming land is a better option. Seaweed spawning is going to recover the ocean faster than removing tires. They might want to save the shape of Florida. The Pangea concept might not be exactly true. Asia and the seven continents are expanding bodies, and one day in the center of the ocean another continent is probable. There are conservative minds who created Pangea. Human morale fiber is not to go beyond a visible conservative.
Back in 2016 Trump got elected, two months into his Presidency he said we really need to clean up the ocean, their was a vote and none of the Democrats or Republicans wanted to spend the money on cleaning the ocean, but sure as hell were real quick to send billions to Ukraine, and we all know half that money came right back here into the crooked Politicians pockets.
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Overall very interesting and eye-opening video. If you refer back to our history and the American Revolution, you will find that the ship that was deliberately sunk was named for the Battle of Oriskany that occurred in Oriskany, NY in 1777. It was a turning point in the Revolution and the bloodiest battle of the war. For your edification, Oriskany is pronounced Oh - RIS - kuh - nee; rather than oh - ris - CON - nee. I think it deserves to be remembered and honored accurately to an international audience. I do appreciate your efforts to bring this valuable information to the forefront.
I had an uncle who served on her, and was looking to see if anyone commented on the correct pronunciation. Thanks for the little history lesson as well.
In Grand Tortuga the university of Florida developed a coral farming method and greatly accelerated coral formation. I think it’s a concrete lattice with ideal shape to allow nutrients to flow but predators can’t access until growth overflows the structure.
Using tires like this is brain dead! Experiment first! See what works. Don't just haul off and dump 2 million tires. Regarding USS Oriskany, say it like this, "or-RISK-any".
Goodyear knew what the tires were made of and the potential harm. I'd say there were highly complicate. They have scientists who formulate the materials. They have to know these things. it's their job.
Corruption allowed Goodyear to get approval. You can be sure clever Goodyear lawyers looked for and found a way to pass off their responsibility, like any big corporation.
there were plenty of people protesting this idea back when it was started, but Florida got paid to take the tires, now it is costing someone else a lot more to fix. Good on 4Ocean for finding a way to fix the shortsightedness of 70-90's politicians
Any boats or ships were being targeted and sunk by the Nazis. Any time there's a danger to humans and we refrain from our usually harmful activities, nature begins to thrive and pollution lessens. Hmmm 🤔
I don't mind 4Ocean (or anyone else) making a profit from cleaning up the environment. Worst case scenario: Environment gets cleaned and someone gets rich. Best case scenario: Competitors will spring up that can do it cheaper. Also, there is so much environmental damage to clean up that there is enough to do for a lot of people. No need to create more to keep it running as a business.
Well, no. Then you get higher and higher prices....don't penalize the wrong people. If that were done, then just the business suffers. What people do with waste is NOT their fault. As I said earlier, profit will facilitate a cleaner world. Money talks.
Actually, no IT (Florida) has not lived up to it name. - Ponce de Leon claimed the land for Spain, calling it La Florida, the Spanish name for flowery, covered with flowers, or abounding in flowers. Now if you are referring to - Florida being largely thought of/and confirmed as a disaster state (this tire sunt as one of many examples) - then yes, most would probably agree.
I am now a subscriber. For 2 reasons: 1. Nice to learn new things. 2. Since you didn't play any music while you were speaking, the video was a pleasure to watch and listen to. I only wish more YT hosts would knock off the bad practice of playing music (any music) while they are speaking. We are watching and listening to the video. We do not want to be distracted by music. So, any news or thoughts on the subway cars that the NY Transit Authority dumped into the ocean (I don't recall if it was the actual Atlantic Ocean or one of the other bodies of water around us here in NYC or even if they brought them down south to Florida). IIRC, they said that they were going to do the coral thing, too.
Having lived in Florida since 1969 I have seen so many well thought out disasters happen, from walking catfish (and other fish imported like the lion fish) to pythons being released, monkeys released, and the tire dump. I started diving in 1970 and loved how nature provided the reefs and other underwater features that made it so wonderful, though I have never dived on any of the artificial reefs, lets not forget the Rolls Royce sunk off Delray Beach I believe, I have not dived in over 30 years mostly out of fear of seeing the destruction man has done, and continues to do. Mother nature has a way of punishing us for what we do wrong.
What a fascinating and sobering look at the Osborne Artificial Reef project! This video sheds light on the unintended consequences of environmental initiatives. It's eye-opening to see how well-intentioned efforts can sometimes lead to further problems. The discussion around the Neptune Memorial Reef and the USS Oriskany adds depth to the conversation. Overall, this video prompts important reflection on the broader implications of our actions. Well done! 🌊♻🐠
I'm amazed that they ever thought that marine organisms would build on - of all things - *_rubber!_* At 15:39, they have changed their mind in favour of concrete, and say "the surface is made especially rough to give plenty of surface area to attach to. For the tyres, I cant help wondering if the conversation went somethoing like this ... "How are we going to get rid of all these tyres?" "I dunno - chuck them in the sea?" "Grief! We can't do that - it'll be really bad publicity - you know, pollution and all that!" "It's OK - we'll just say it is to encourage coral reefs" "Yeah - that'll work. Let's do that!"
@@us3rG... so you reckon that marine organisms would attach themselves to rubber if it was dumped in the right place? I must confess that I don't know, but they put tendrils into whatever anchors them, and it's hard putting tendrils into rubber - nomatter where it is!
Purge all the tires is wishful thinking. Later, new generations might drown in the radioactive promises of a better future, or whatever else we disposed of in the ocean(s).
Agree....we are so overfished, seas polluted we need fish farms...which are horrible for us I wont come near it. To think or believe dumping anything in there has no effect is ignorant on another level. Theres a reason people say there is a need for reefs...too much crap in the water killing them off so the solution is to dump more garbage in? Tires, metals plastics isnt good for any living organism. Glad I dont have much time left on this planet I can remember when fish stores were common, prices were affordable and all was freshly caught.
I know it won't help the problem directly but I have a suggestion: Take a nice, slow, 3 mile walk during your favorite time of day. Be sure to do ample amounts of breathing; the trees will thank you and you'll be literally doing the most you -can- do without shelling out cash or getting your hands dirty.
You'd think they would dump a small amount of tires to see if a reef developed. Yeesh. This was an idea that should have been retired! (I'll show myself out...)
Love the pun 😁👍 And yeah that was my thoughts exactly. Almost as if it did not need testing because of the insane amount of tires they just freely got rid of? 🤔
@@accalya271 Good point! Humans can be SO F'ING STUPID! It makes me mad. Name one other species that contributes as much as we do to the systematic destruction of the environment they live in!
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In Los Angeles County in the 1970s they were dumping Waste Water into the ocean after it was "treated". There would be pieces of poop that floated around by the Waste Water Treatment Plant next to the Chevron Oil Refinery in El Segundo, CA.
it been a long time since i watch your videos 😭😭 i finally came back . i missed you and your vids. at this point I dont know if we are helping the environments or not
Adding more people to the decision making process would increase the alternatives to just dumping in the ocean. Including young people of all ages would be beneficial in many ways. Children have amazing creative potential, and they would love to volunteer their energy.😊
That ship, the Aircraft Carrier - they spent an ungodly amount of money to remove all oil and everything else from it = There were no wires or cables on the ship - it was a complete skeleton - COMPLETE SKELETON.
AGREED 💯 %... ALL CABLES WERE REMOVED PRIOR TO HER SINKING FOR 2 REASONS... 1) POLUTION... 2) DIVERS SAFETY, THEIR EQUIPMENT COULD GET CAUGHT ON ANY CABLES AND IT COULD NOT BE USED AS A DIVERS PARADISE ATTRACTION IF LEFT... THUS REMOVED IT ALL FOR BOTH REASONS ...
Any time humans try to play God it normally doesn't work out very well. We need to leave nature alone. Narure thrived before we got here and will thrive long after we're gone.
You claim we shouldn't play god in these situations but probably are ok with people using surgeries to change their sex, pro abortion, pro ai, pro crisper. All these things are playing god, none of it is natural.
I don’t why even in the 60s anyone would think throwing trash or anything in the ocean would be a good idea? And especially all the fish eaters? I don’t know anyone thought yeah just toss it in the ocean. It will sink and be fine? Its amazing 😅
@@KMF3 idk ?? And now they are saying all the batteries from the electric cars have no where to go but they still plan on making all cars electric by 2050 .i don’t understand its seems one problem after another .it will never stop I guess
The idea is still good and ot works but the problem is that coral reefs need a set of environmental things to happen for them to grow. 1 - Water needs to be warm year round. If for some period of time you get cold/frigid water, coral will not grow. 2 - it can't be too deep for coral needs light. Lots of it to grow.
There are very nice resorts in Mexico on the shore that still dump raw sewage from the resort right into the ocean. First time I saw the water in the bay turning brown from just past the shoreline out, I was like WTH? Then I realized what it was. Never going back there. Third world countries have a lack of water processing facilities and just dump all the waste in rivers and oceans.
That's what I was thinking about as I watched the video. What about all of the other countries that have no or relaxed regulations regarding refuse? How much crap (no pun intended) are they adding to the water and atmosphere? 🤔
Concerning the resorts in Mexico, cheap labor in Mexico made it interesting for some well-known American companies to move part or the whole of their operations to Mexico. Because of this, I'd be worried about what exactly is in the ocean if the sewage system leads there. A good way to ascertain the health of a pond is to evaluate the general health of the frog population in that pond. Perhaps the effects of recent industrialization should be studied to assess the health risks of those living with these conditions for extended periods of time. But, if you don't have enough money to promote a health campaigm, such as third world countries, then you can't afford to pay for such a campaigm, and nearly anything goes.
In termite areas in Australia.. we wish we could protect our houses from being eaten by ddt ... Only thing legal now lasts 5 years before needing expensive re treatment.. DDT lasts centuries.. and can be sprayed directly on humans .. Not good for endangered bird eggs 😢
"They" was Kodak film company. Unless we're talking about different events, the"DDT" was actually CYANIDE SALTS" that were put on barges by the thousands, and dumped in deep water between San Pedro and Catalina Island. Not long after dumping those drums were rusting through. I fished most of my childhood off the old Seal beach barge, and the Huntington Beach pier. I caught as many deformed fish as normal looking ones. At 12 years old I knew better than to eat any of them. 😢
This video's comments on 4Ocean are right on point. The benefit to the environment for every dollar poured into this company is insanely low. You could do much better to just fill up a trash bag yourself when you're at the beach.
I don't have anything for or against them - I just don't know enough about them to form an informed opinion - but to be fair, there's a demand for the cleanup work that they're doing, and almost nobody else out there providing the supply to meet the demand, meaning that 4Ocean can set their own high prices for as long as they like until someone else finds a way to undercut their prices. They need competition, and where there's room for competition, there's opportunity for new entrepreneurs to step in to help meet the demand for the incentive of a lower but still significant profit margin. Where are the competitors? Maybe some of you can do this more cost-effectively but still sustainably?
Or, not dump waste in the ocean(s) to begin with. The "passing the buck" BS by those responsible has got to stop. 4Ocean might have best intentions, but the fact of the matter is they are simply picking up where someone else left off, and offering another possible solution to the problem. The question is whether their solution is actually solving the problem at hand - and in my opinion, they are not. What is being done with the waste (tires) collected?
Exactly! I'm more of a fan of Ocean Cleanup. They place collection vessels in the mouth of the highest-polluting rivers in the world. In this way, they actually prevent plastic waste from entering our oceans. Collected waste is then sent to appropriate recycling facilities. Of course, there is that which cannot be recycled, and that still has to go to a landfill. @@henricoderre
really like the format with the animated figuer X-D u are right: 1) who profited from dumping it it? -> should pay at least partly for it 2) really prefer companies to do good and make money than when doing bad, but it must be wholesome and sustainably good
I remember a few years ago a documentery was done about all the plastics washing up on tropical islands. A collection system was put in place to see just what was washing up on the beaches. The number one item was toothbrushes. Makes sense since we are told to replace our toothbrushes every month. And so many of them end up on a nice crappy tropical island.
It is getting warmer, and the oceans, seas and lakes are also getting warmer, which means the water is getting acidic, and the life in the oceans are dying in droves. The coral reeves are dying faster and faster, so we do need to do something fast, as it will save us in the end too
I served on nine US Navy ships while I was in G Co, 2nd Bn, 2nd Marines, 2nd Marine Division, Fleet Marine Force, LANT. The ships: USS Mountrail APA-213, USS Raleigh LPD-1, USS Boxer LPH-4, USS Okinawa LPH-3, USS Guadalcanal LPH-7, USS Vermillion AKA-107, USS Montrose APA-212, USS Terrebonne Parish LST-1156, USS Terrebonne Parish LST-1156, and USS York County USS-1175. Every one of the ships has been used as a target, sunk as a reef, sold for scrap, or sold to foreign countries. The York County was sold to the Italian Navy in 1972 and later scrapped. The Terrebonne Parish was sold to Spain in 1978. The three carriers: The Boxer was originally CV-21. It was completed too late to serve in WWII, but did serve in Korea. Later it was converted to serve as a helicopter assault ship. Both the Okinawa & Guadalcanal were purpose-built as helicopter assault ships, and all the others of this class were named after Marine Corps battles: Iwo Jima, Okinawa, Guadalcanal, Guam, Tripoli, New Orleans, and Inchon.
Lakes around me and rivers use that all the time with the tires although, unlike the ocean, they act as natural little hiding spots for fish and spawning spots so it’s a better idea for lakes than it is for oceans😂
Yes, that sounds about right, and it seems like there's a lot of outrage about the failed artificial reef solution in the comments, but it seems like a lot of the commenters miss the nuance that there were good intentions behind trying to turn those tire bundles into artificial reefs, even if those good intentions eventually ended up paving the way to the hell that needs to be cleaned up as a result because for all the good intentions, the execution for the artificial reefs was half-baked, failing to account for the effect of salt water and ocean currents on the cables holding the tires together for the reef backbones. In retrospect, the ocean side of it was a terrible idea, but it looked like a great idea back in the '60s, and a lot hippies (and a couple megacorps like Goodyear that managed to get in on the act) got to pat themselves on the back at the time for something that looked like it was going to save the world. To be fair to them, it looks like the freshwater equivalent wasn't as terrible an idea, and may have actually done more good than harm compared to the saltwater equivalent.
I personally see nothing wrong with anyone capitalizing on cleaning this up. Everything in life can't be a charity, or none of us would be able to sustain. Even if they (are) technically raising the cost/tire to excavate and remove, they have clearly found a way to make progress here, and frankly, I prefer the OPTION to buy their bracelet and help the cause as opposed to being FORCED by the government to pay my share in inflated taxes for something i never had a chance to approve or disaprove on in the first place.... Great video as always - Cheers!
Displacing the problem is not a solution to the problem. Nor can this be called progress. The problem has simply been moved elsewhere for someone else to deal with later.
@henricoderre, as I am titled to my opinion, thus are you equally. The "problem" is that this was approved in the 1st place. I think we would both agree that the driving force behind this Ludacris dump was based heavily on "Let's find the cheapest way possible to sweep these tires under the rug" and far less on actually believing that these tires could have been (in any way fathomable) a positive impact on our oceans. Where we differ is on the "progress" part of this equation. By definition, progress is "forward or onward movement toward a destination"; therefore, in order for there not to (be) progress, we would have to had done nothing (zero) to remove (any) tires from the ocean, but in fact , we have removed hundreds of thousands, hence the "progress". Perhaps you meant simply we have not resolved the problem altogether, in which I would wholeheartedly agree.
I for one had no idea that kind of dumping had gone on. Not surprised that the ones who did the dumping are never held accountable. If we know how corrals are made why couldn't we start making them or at least get the building blocks happening?
It’s a really good video very balanced congrats, would be good if you did something similar about the positive and negative side of windfarms, especially floating offshore ones
The ship's name is pronounced "OR-Risk-Can-knee. This is coming from a retired sailor, I've been aboard that ship. Of course that was before they sank it. lol MM1 Davis. U.S. Navy, Retired.
And to think, the people that came up with this amazing idea would have been called "intelligent" and "experts". This is why I'm always a little skeptical of so called experts.
Intelligent enough to make a mess. Intelligent enough to get others to clean it up. Intelligent enough to still make a profit off of it. Intelligent enough to convince others that the problem is not our problem. Being that intelligent makes us experts. LOL.
I wouldn't be calling them brainiacs, but we're on the same page. The whole thing was a sham! All parties involved just wanted the problem gone once and for all.
As a local Florida diver, I will state that your assertion at 14:00, that artificial reefs do not benefit the fish populations, is not consistent with my personal observations. The tires were a bad idea, but other reefs that were made from bridge sections, ships, and other items, have formed useful habitats that have been productive.
💯 From my own observations on the other side of the planet, the benefits of artificial reefs as you stated is spot on.
The tires are actually very efficient fuel… ground up and mixed with cole, creates an extremely hot fuel mixture.. and with the new technology air scrubbers, cleaner than any other type of disposal… same with plastic.. both are Freeeeee Fuel!!!
My former ship, the USCGC Duane, is now a reef off the East coast of Florida. It's considered a successful project.
Works really good on a small scale. It’s the oldest trick in the book for stocking a small pond with new fry. Chain a bunch of tires together with a couple of cinderblocks. Throw them in the water just off the bank. Voilà. The larger fish can’t eat up the fry, and your fish population explodes.
Use stainless chain.
Edit: Carbon fiber links would be ideal in that environment.
Mankind really does have a lot to answer for, This lazy disposal of unwanted items into our oceans is really unforgivable.
Get to answering then
That's why I'm asking! Is there a reason?
Careful. If you investigate too deeply you'll end up labeled a far right extremist for having the audacity to point blame at a small group of sociopaths that keep boasting about their evil deeds. @@robertbolino9052
More like Americans, lol.
More like Bankers
Profit is the ultimate motivation to get things done.
"When money talks, NOBODY walks."
Without profit there is apathy and misery. Do gooders live in a false sense of security and abundance provided by capitalism
Aye. Which is why the capitalis USA flourished while the communist USSR and China floundered.
You need to look up an article is Discovery magazine called Anything into Oil…check it out, y’all might learn something
Profit is a strong motivation, but not the only one. For example, if you volunteer you are still getting things done without a profit motive. The problem with profit as your only motivation is that it also easily leads to perverse outcomes like out of control pollution, not to mention (at times) illegality.
Profit continually leads to apathy and misery if the wealth is concentrated. A rising tide should lift all boats. If you have a society (say) like the USA where wealth is super-concentrated you can easily find plenty of misery and poverty.
I used to fish lobster on the west coast of Scotland and a farmer took hundreds of used tires put concrete in the bottom of the tires so they would sit up under the water after a few years this reef he made became the best spot to catch fish and lobster so it does work if done right barnicles Formed round them and because the concrete they did not drift in the tides and stayed where they were put and eventually formed a reef it just takes a farmer to figure it out
Farmers are pretty smart, unlike the US military....
We really do need to get a grip. I've lived on the ocean my whole life and the loss of reefs, wild life & trash I pick up out of the water on a daily basis just sickens me😢
We need to stop shitting in our nest people!!!!!!
Regrettably, the worst of it comes from Asia. Don't get me started...
The ocean is the biggest garbage dump in the world and that is as it should be.
@@marioxerxescastelancastro8019 Not if you eat seafood it isnt.
@@gordocarbo I do not. Seafood is just edible garbage.
Have you been diving in the Dominican Republic? I did a two-tank dive on the south shore of the DR and was puzzled by the lack of fish/wildlife AND the strange, gray'ish color of the coral.
I also noticed, literally dozens of cans and plastic bottles all around the coral formations! So I managed to sneak away from the team (I stayed within sight of the group).
When it was time to surface, I still had over 800 pounds of air, and I noticed that the anchor was stuck and everyone was on the surface except me and the dive master. I signaled him that I would get the anchor loose, and he and I went to work on it.
That's when I realized why the coral was all dead and there was no fish!
The anchor was lodged IN the coral, AND the line was wrapped around a huge coral head. I freed the anchor (with help from the dive master) and we surfaced. IMMEDIATELY I noticed a concrete anchor bouy not 500 feet away, and it was embedded in sand! So, naturally, I said something to the dive master and he said, and I quote: "The coral around here is all like that." 😳
I've been diving since 1970, and I've always been taught, and I respected that teaching, that you NEVER touch coral! (We've all hit it on occasion, but we certainly try not to)
The people of the DR have ZERO respect for the eco system of the ocean, and the vast majority of the coral is dead and trash litters the ocean floor.
On the bus back to the resort, I was struck by the amount of litter, especially plastic, on the sides of the roads. I've never been diving anywhere so dirty in my entire life. My advice to anyone who likes to snorkel or dive is:
STAY AWAY FROM THE DR!
Any company that’s actually cleaning up our messes should make a profit.
The cheapskate companies who want to pretend to solve the problem they caused need to pay for their own damage.
Not really
What am trying to say is they shouldn't earn money off it they polluted the ocean and atmosphere its their job to fix it
@@Katsojay is that it? Your whole response?no reason no logic not even an opinion as to why the people making things better shouldn’t make a little profit for their efforts?
@@roysnider3456 don't mind this katsojoy person. They are the typical liberal they think the government should just print money and hand it out to anyone who claims to make the world safer and more eko. Never mind us greedy humans that have to live on earth. Why do we need to make a profit ?...when the government can just print more money!!!!!!!
Just imagine how comfortable your ride on the highway would be if they ground up all those tires and mixed it with asphalt to pave new roads. Recycling this way would be a great way to get rid of used tires.
Yes, that is a great idea! One question, though, how well would this mixture handle rapid changes in temperature?
They've been talking about doing just that since the 1960s as a "miracle solution" for the Tire Problem, much like the artificial reef "miracle solution". It's actually been done - Arizona piloted programs for it with some success, but there's always a problem, and in the case of mixing ground tires into asphalt, the benefits are that it's a smoother ride, sound pollution gets reduced, and you make some of the tires disappear, but it requires energy and CO2 to grind all those tires up, and the resulting asphalt mix is notoriously unstable, with the asphalt easily breaking down under various conditions unless more chemical goop gets mixed in. And as usual, a lot of these sorts of problems - toxicity, unsustainability, breakdown of materials over time into new problems, and so on - often take years, decades, or generations to appear, so that future generations can slap their foreheads and ask "what were they thinking, trying to do good this way???" In any event, it looks like this "miracle solution" never really went away, they're still putting research and development into it, and who knows? Maybe they'll find a way to make it work eventually in a way that creates fewer problems than it solves. Good luck to them!
they do this here in las vegas, they also do this in arizona, texas and california. you can read the article in asphalt magazine.
@@pietrayday9915 There have been a number of breakthroughs in recycling or getting rid of plastics and other misc petroleum based products. Microbes, worms, novel chemical reactions, all kinds of research is going on. I wouldn't be too surprised if in the next 10 years something really interesting happens on the recycling front.
*Your video is very good, I see the effort you put in to create a great product for us, thank you!*
Conventional issues require unconventional solutions.
This is why so many things are going wrong today.
No one able to think outside their own litter boxes anymore.
As a structural engineer, I have learned that complicated problems usually have a simple solution. If we step back and look at the "Big Picture", we are able to see the root cause of the problem 👍🏼 We start there...
Now that, was funny, and sad, because it's true.
@@Skyskwatch297 We have Tide pod eaters, Flat earthers and more pronouns than we can shake a stick at.
Common sense, not so common anymore.
Simple solutions, not so simple.
People now step back just to get a better angle for their videos.
And, all those useless covid masks being discarded, clogging the seas.
And the idea of the 1960s Hippies making people think of the environment? Yeah, just google up pics of Yashur's Farm right after Woodstock. 😂
It's called cooperate , instead we have a competition , for everything .
Radiation was well understood when they dumped all that nuclear waste, giving a generous 20 years for those barrels to rust and release, I bet you could find a strong correlation between cancer and seafood enjoyment over the last 40 years.
Humans just don't understand that the earth just needs to be left alone for it to thrive. The more humans do, the worse it gets
The WHOLE point...🧐
Humans can only learn by F-Around and find out, way.
My husband worked at a naval shipyard for a while. He was part of the crew that decommissioned the ships and prepared them to be sunk. AKA target practice. He asked his boss why they don't scrap them. His boss told him because it costs more to scrap them.
Hold your tounge and say that.
They should have been scrapped. Our Federal Government has an excuse rather than a solid solution for every problem...and THEY are the problem.
I agree that those responsible, ie Goodyear, should be held accountable for cleaning that mess up. Unfortunately since the EPA is a Government agency, that will never happen. They're as effective as the FDA is with BIG PHARMA. On my not so humble opinion.
~APRIL LIPKE
Don't sunk ships actually make good artificial reefs? I have heard of them being sunk purposely for that reason, but with better results than the tire idea. Though when they do it deliberately for a reef they remove all the potentially polluting things like motor oil and fuel and all that, I'm guessing that might not have been a priority for the military just looking to get rid of obsolete ships.🤷 lol of course I posted this right at the end of the video 😂
Your comment is right on the money.
@@jameslipke354well the navy does need to practice with their weapon systems. Not exactly a total waste
The sarcasm is on point
in the US nothing moves without profit, even if it is good for all!
It is. But I am a bit critical about him lecturing about the co2 emissions this memorial generates. I mean, he wouldn't do an episode showing how much pollution his videos are generating, would he?
*Your video is very good, I see the effort you put in to create a great product for us, thank you!*
As a Navy Veteran I can assure you that we sink old ships all the time.We call it a SINKEX (Sink Exercise). When a ship gets too old and repairing it or refurbishing it is too expensive we strip it down of anything that can be repurposed and tow it out to the middle of the ocean (or where ever they want a new reef). Then shoot all our ammo that is about to go bad and can't be safely stored anymore and sink it. This disposes of old ammo and the ship, gives the newer crew members experience in live fire situations, and (supposedly) creates healthy new reefs for the fishes. The USS Crommelin, FFG 37, (my old ship) was sunk off the coast of Hawaii in July 26, 2016.
Footnote: They left a lot of equipment onboard and I don't know why!
Probably the same reason, disposing or refurbishing would cost more
This may be a good idea for military forces, solving 2 problems at the same time. But we need to consider the fact that the environment may not agree. If we can build new ships and ammo, why cant we use a non profitable shipyard to break down old ships instead of sinking or sending them to Africa for breakdown? Something is wrong with our economic models when we cant take care of the products we produce. I am not one of these crazy environmentalists, but I do realize thar other things than CO2 is a bigger problem to the world. Mercury, Lead, plastics in water, Rubber, radioactive waste etc needs to be taken care of as well. USA have paid Russia a lot of money to scrap old Submarine ships in Murmansk.
Disgusting. We eat the seaweed and seafood from the sea, why would anyone want to dump garbage into the bowl of soup they are eating from?
@@funpau7549 Yes, you have a point there. During the dark ages, people had their drinking wells to close to dirty mottes (incl fecal mattet) around water castles. Which resulted in all sorts of diseases. Up until 1970 or so, the world regarded our seas as self-emptying waste bins. When the austronauts sat on the moon and looked back at the earth, they started to question this, becoming early environmentists. Jim Hansen at Nasa was one of them. It will take a long time, but today we are aware of the situation, and there will be inventions to improve things. I think Energy and Freshwater needs to be prioritized for industrialized countries. For developing countries freshwater, toilets, education and planting forests into deserts to increase living standards without Carbon pollution might be prioritized.
I swam the bow of the Beagle off of Key Largo, very cool/eerie environment around ~160ft below surface. Did the Captain Morgan pose on one of the barrels still strung up on deck and won a free cask of rum.
Love how you kept it real and explored all the pro's and cons of everything. Very educational and eye opening, thank you!
@johnkkkj: if pros gets an apostrophe then why does not cons ? Open your eyes.
You have something on your nose (it's brown)
The irony though is that it was far from keeping it real and one only needs to recognize the multiple attacks on Florida which were gratuitous at best.
Enjoy your red pills
@@HaroldBrice WOW! Who shit in your cereal?
@@briank.2650
This is imo your best video. Thank you for highlighting the mess people do trying to "fix" the environment they screwed up in the first place..
Wow the others must be horrendous.
I'm so glad he's bringing up the implications of attempts to help the environment that don't quite fix the bigger problems. I almost wanted to be part of the cremains artificial reef project before he brought this to my attention.
Same here
For a channel who typically just made a compilation of interesting stuff, this was an unusually great video filled with a lot of actual substance and even encouraging thought about the relationship between environmentalism and politics. I have never seen this channel do something like this. Kudos!!!!
They actually make videos like this often. Not necessarily an “educational” one like this but a single 20 min video dedicated to 1 topic. They’re cool
I was in Florida in2021, after COVID-19; I did not have any knowledge of it.
Thanks be to god. However, as a civil engineer, I’ve witnessed sea blooms of the sargassum in the ocean.
Before removing the tires, and after seeing the chemical damages were already done, thoughts from soil science is to reset the entire product beneath a hot bed of soils. Such would be a tanker that churns hot soil to do the same as the posts of tires. The results would be land reclamation. The chemical spoilage would be converted by soils, the number one organic converting mechanism. Picking the tires out is just for people who have hurt small pretty fish, and apparently they have really stunted it for hundreds of years. If you have already allowed the damage, the damage is somewhat irreversible, so reclaiming land is a better option. Seaweed spawning is going to recover the ocean faster than removing tires. They might want to save the shape of Florida.
The Pangea concept might not be exactly true. Asia and the seven continents are expanding bodies, and one day in the center of the ocean another continent is probable. There are conservative minds who created Pangea. Human morale fiber is not to go beyond a visible conservative.
SOUNDS LIKE A CRY BABY CRYING BOUT PPL MAKING MONEY WHILE DOING GOOD, SOUNDS LIKE A DEMONCRAT HONESTLY
Back in 2016 Trump got elected, two months into his Presidency he said we really need to clean up the ocean, their was a vote and none of the Democrats or Republicans wanted to spend the money on cleaning the ocean, but sure as hell were real quick to send billions to Ukraine, and we all know half that money came right back here into the crooked Politicians pockets.
As a fisherman, I can tell you that artificial reefs are successful. Usually, the ones that work are sunken boats, cars, trains and concrete.
Trains ? They dump trains into the ocean ?
We should never dump our waste in the ocean. Artificial reefs are just a cheap way of getting rid of our waste. It disturbes nature.
So you think TOXIC waste like tyres is just fine.
@@ThePixey1000I don't think you read him right.
@@dmitripogosian5084Yep, the shells of old subway cars are sometimes dumped.
I just want to recognize your channel and your great work…, I’m not really into TH-cam and social media in general but whenever I see BE AMAZED I click because I know it will be GREAT CONTENT. Facts, ample background info, the sarcasm and the little round guy keeps it interesting. Can listen to the narrator narrate all day. Thank you so much and keep up the great work. I ❤️❤️❤️ Your channel!
thank you so much!
Overall very interesting and eye-opening video. If you refer back to our history and the American Revolution, you will find that the ship that was deliberately sunk was named for the Battle of Oriskany that occurred in Oriskany, NY in 1777. It was a turning point in the Revolution and the bloodiest battle of the war. For your edification, Oriskany is pronounced Oh - RIS - kuh - nee; rather than oh - ris - CON - nee. I think it deserves to be remembered and honored accurately to an international audience. I do appreciate your efforts to bring this valuable information to the forefront.
I had an uncle who served on her, and was looking to see if anyone commented on the correct pronunciation. Thanks for the little history lesson as well.
In Grand Tortuga the university of Florida developed a coral farming method and greatly accelerated coral formation. I think it’s a concrete lattice with ideal shape to allow nutrients to flow but predators can’t access until growth overflows the structure.
I wish the information about this was better disseminated. Costa Rica has opportunity and budget. Heck I’d pay to work setting up coral farms.
Using tires like this is brain dead! Experiment first! See what works. Don't just haul off and dump 2 million tires. Regarding USS Oriskany, say it like this, "or-RISK-any".
not sure you can hold Goodyear accountable when the government approved the dump
Goodyear knew what the tires were made of and the potential harm. I'd say there were highly complicate. They have scientists who formulate the materials. They have to know these things. it's their job.
Pretty sure you can hold both accountable. Both were trying to get rid of a problem they either directly or indirectly created.
Corruption allowed Goodyear to get approval. You can be sure clever Goodyear lawyers looked for and found a way to pass off their responsibility, like any big corporation.
yeah it's not like governments are undermined or at least heavily influenced by the industries ...
All those shoe soles and sandals wasted on an experiment.
That’s so incredibly ironic that hurricanes are just throwing the tires back ashore
They didnt only dump spend tires also radioactive waste. France even sunk the ship Rainbow Warrior in 1985 that was protesting these activities.
there were plenty of people protesting this idea back when it was started, but Florida got paid to take the tires, now it is costing someone else a lot more to fix. Good on 4Ocean for finding a way to fix the shortsightedness of 70-90's politicians
During World War II.. there was a time industrial fishing was paused, due to the war effort… the fish population thrived during that time…
So we need more war? lol
@@angelofamillionyears4599no, we just need limits on fishing
Any boats or ships were being targeted and sunk by the Nazis. Any time there's a danger to humans and we refrain from our usually harmful activities, nature begins to thrive and pollution lessens. Hmmm 🤔
Tell the Chinese ! Ha
We need to stop them tearing up the sea bed
Today can’t get any better. A new Be Amazed video, no work, and tacos later 😎
Same here 👍
Health is wealth gd
Cool, what time, and what should I bring?
Gyros for me 😊
burritos are better
I don't mind 4Ocean (or anyone else) making a profit from cleaning up the environment. Worst case scenario: Environment gets cleaned and someone gets rich. Best case scenario: Competitors will spring up that can do it cheaper.
Also, there is so much environmental damage to clean up that there is enough to do for a lot of people. No need to create more to keep it running as a business.
The tire makers and retailers who created the problem need to be charged for the clean up. 😢
Tires are a problem we have people dump them on our dirt road and property all of the time.
Well, no. Then you get higher and higher prices....don't penalize the wrong people. If that were done, then just the business suffers. What people do with waste is NOT their fault. As I said earlier, profit will facilitate a cleaner world. Money talks.
@@johnrudy9404 True.
Just add old cars and concrete. Problem solved and more fish habitat . 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We are all responsible for cleaning up our world because of past ignorance. If we all did our part we can fix our world! 🌎✌️👵🎉💕🌺🇺🇸
Hi , im a really huge fan , please keep upthe conistent work.Been watching your channel for 2 years :) Thank u so much!!
thank you for tuning in! appreciate you sticking around :)
I love how Florida has lived up to its name for so many years.
What do you mean?
Fucking up nature
@@charlestaylor3195 Florida every few years always has some shenanigans. Mostly Florida man stuff.
Actually, no IT (Florida) has not lived up to it name. - Ponce de Leon claimed the land for Spain, calling it La Florida, the Spanish name for flowery, covered with flowers, or abounding in flowers.
Now if you are referring to - Florida being largely thought of/and confirmed as a disaster state (this tire sunt as one of many examples) - then yes, most would probably agree.
Most socalled "Florida Man" stories are actually transplants. We Native Floridians care for our state's nature.
Negativity can always draw a crowd. Giving both sides of the story brings conversation and solutions.
Hahaha, okay, and so, what would you propose should be done with these tyres?
Very well said! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!
Ok....you can start now then...
Nice idea and I like it. Burning old tires make air polluted but throwing old tires in the ocean make corals grow. I like this idea 👍😊
It ultimately just creates massive amounts of microplastics, which is arguably worse than air pollution.
I am now a subscriber. For 2 reasons: 1. Nice to learn new things. 2. Since you didn't play any music while you were speaking, the video was a pleasure to watch and listen to. I only wish more YT hosts would knock off the bad practice of playing music (any music) while they are speaking. We are watching and listening to the video. We do not want to be distracted by music.
So, any news or thoughts on the subway cars that the NY Transit Authority dumped into the ocean (I don't recall if it was the actual Atlantic Ocean or one of the other bodies of water around us here in NYC or even if they brought them down south to Florida). IIRC, they said that they were going to do the coral thing, too.
Having lived in Florida since 1969 I have seen so many well thought out disasters happen, from walking catfish (and other fish imported like the lion fish) to pythons being released, monkeys released, and the tire dump. I started diving in 1970 and loved how nature provided the reefs and other underwater features that made it so wonderful, though I have never dived on any of the artificial reefs, lets not forget the Rolls Royce sunk off Delray Beach I believe, I have not dived in over 30 years mostly out of fear of seeing the destruction man has done, and continues to do. Mother nature has a way of punishing us for what we do wrong.
What a fascinating and sobering look at the Osborne Artificial Reef project! This video sheds light on the unintended consequences of environmental initiatives. It's eye-opening to see how well-intentioned efforts can sometimes lead to further problems. The discussion around the Neptune Memorial Reef and the USS Oriskany adds depth to the conversation. Overall, this video prompts important reflection on the broader implications of our actions. Well done! 🌊♻🐠
Be Amazed is the best youtuber ever, you can't change my mind.
@@PowerfulPlazOfficial he was spamming before then he deleted the comment
Simon Whistler Brain Blaze or 1 of his other 9 channels.
We need to fire our government for real
1:46 "... dumped in the Pacific Ocean."
Shows the Atlantic.
I'm amazed that they ever thought that marine organisms would build on - of all things - *_rubber!_* At 15:39, they have changed their mind in favour of concrete, and say "the surface is made especially rough to give plenty of surface area to attach to. For the tyres, I cant help wondering if the conversation went somethoing like this ...
"How are we going to get rid of all these tyres?"
"I dunno - chuck them in the sea?"
"Grief! We can't do that - it'll be really bad publicity - you know, pollution and all that!"
"It's OK - we'll just say it is to encourage coral reefs"
"Yeah - that'll work. Let's do that!"
It just didn't work where it was put, even the Pacific patch houses life
@@us3rG... so you reckon that marine organisms would attach themselves to rubber if it was dumped in the right place? I must confess that I don't know, but they put tendrils into whatever anchors them, and it's hard putting tendrils into rubber - nomatter where it is!
@@DownhillAllTheWay maybe it shouldn't just be rubber cause they'll need something to snack on if we want them to stick around.
I love that Mother Nature threw the tires back at us...wish she could purge them all
Purge all the tires is wishful thinking. Later, new generations might drown in the radioactive promises of a better future, or whatever else we disposed of in the ocean(s).
Considering the sea holds a major food source it's amazing what people are doing ,against there own families and there futures .
Agree....we are so overfished, seas polluted we need fish farms...which are horrible for us I wont come near it.
To think or believe dumping anything in there has no effect is ignorant on another level.
Theres a reason people say there is a need for reefs...too much crap in the water killing them off so the solution is to dump more garbage in? Tires, metals plastics isnt good for any living organism. Glad I dont have much time left on this planet
I can remember when fish stores were common, prices were affordable and all was freshly caught.
Isn’t it amazing the way ‘helping’ these reefs and fish involves taking the easy and lazy way out?
I know it won't help the problem directly but I have a suggestion: Take a nice, slow, 3 mile walk during your favorite time of day. Be sure to do ample amounts of breathing; the trees will thank you and you'll be literally doing the most you -can- do without shelling out cash or getting your hands dirty.
Yup - the trees like the CO2 that we exhale and they give us back oxygen 😁
You had me in the first half 😂
You'd think they would dump a small amount of tires to see if a reef developed. Yeesh. This was an idea that should have been retired! (I'll show myself out...)
Love the pun 😁👍 And yeah that was my thoughts exactly. Almost as if it did not need testing because of the insane amount of tires they just freely got rid of? 🤔
@@accalya271 Good point! Humans can be SO F'ING STUPID! It makes me mad. Name one other species that contributes as much as we do to the systematic destruction of the environment they live in!
Exactly.
I LOLd - you're punny!
@@tomh.648 Glad I made you laugh!
The only time that mother earth will be healed is when there is no more humans on it
Well researched and immaculately narrated.
Good PR = good BS. All companies have dark secrets. When money is involved, there's no such thing as good intentions.
Amazing video , thank you!
I really love your videos... Your sacarsm is top notch.. My download list is full of your videos..i have really learnt a lot from
you.. Keep up the good works..
Great docu! ❤❤❤
Very interesting and informative!
Thank you 😊
In Los Angeles County in the 1970s they were dumping Waste Water into the ocean after it was "treated". There would be pieces of poop that floated around by the Waste Water Treatment Plant next to the Chevron Oil Refinery in El Segundo, CA.
Amazingly, this is the saddest news.😔🙏🌏
Im sorry. I must have missed this detail... where exactly is it that this GOLD tire was dropped?
🙂
Yeah good question...
Gold plated. He mentioned it when he talked about the "reef" being created.
If they tell you, I'll buy the gas and food and provide the hook and wench if you provide the boat and 30% of the reward
It was painted with lead rich paint. It’s worn away by now.
it been a long time since i watch your videos 😭😭 i finally came back . i missed you and your vids. at this point I dont know if we are helping the environments or not
11:42 worth every dollar
Good stuff man just found your content couple weeks ago watch atleast 1 a day
I dropped my bottle on the floor hoping i would be paid £5 to pick it up... just ended up with a £100 fine :(
LOL!
Imagine all the terrified fish that witnessed storm of tires falling from the ocean sky having their fish babies crushed.
🤣
better than endless sewage
We do that here too. @@prassler
Must have been Trump's idea, not the tires, but crushing baby fish. Quel Horror.
@@mutteringmale Wallowing in Trump Derangement Syndrome is a terrible life choice.......
One man's trash is another man's treasure
Who would want something everyone else is trying to get rid of?
But more often, one man's trash becomes everyone's trash!
Adding more people to the decision making process would increase the alternatives to just dumping in the ocean. Including young people of all ages would be beneficial in many ways. Children have amazing creative potential, and they would love to volunteer their energy.😊
That ship, the Aircraft Carrier - they spent an ungodly amount of money to remove all oil and everything else from it = There were no wires or cables on the ship - it was a complete skeleton - COMPLETE SKELETON.
AGREED 💯 %...
ALL CABLES WERE REMOVED PRIOR TO HER SINKING FOR 2 REASONS...
1) POLUTION...
2) DIVERS SAFETY, THEIR EQUIPMENT COULD GET CAUGHT ON ANY CABLES AND IT COULD NOT BE USED AS A DIVERS PARADISE ATTRACTION IF LEFT... THUS REMOVED IT ALL FOR BOTH REASONS ...
Any time humans try to play God it normally doesn't work out very well. We need to leave nature alone. Narure thrived before we got here and will thrive long after we're gone.
Not if we end it first
Life will still find a way hippie.
You claim we shouldn't play god in these situations but probably are ok with people using surgeries to change their sex, pro abortion, pro ai, pro crisper. All these things are playing god, none of it is natural.
And many other animals will go extinct like the golden tree frog. Which will lead to destruction on Earth
And do not “END IT”
I don’t why even in the 60s anyone would think throwing trash or anything in the ocean would be a good idea? And especially all the fish eaters? I don’t know anyone thought yeah just toss it in the ocean. It will sink and be fine? Its amazing 😅
It's difficult. What do we do with all our trash?
@@KMF3 idk ?? And now they are saying all the batteries from the electric cars have no where to go but they still plan on making all cars electric by 2050 .i don’t understand its seems one problem after another .it will never stop I guess
@@sandygirl2544 yeah yeah I don't know either
They were supposed to be linked together... but that failed 😞
They think as they are big they can't be touched.. and profit is king..hopefully what's happening with the Post office in the UK will shake a few
You do some great stuff. This has to be one of your best.
The idea is still good and ot works but the problem is that coral reefs need a set of environmental things to happen for them to grow.
1 - Water needs to be warm year round. If for some period of time you get cold/frigid water, coral will not grow.
2 - it can't be too deep for coral needs light. Lots of it to grow.
Don’t kid yourself, they did it to get rid of the tires. The reef building was just the lie they told to make it OK
*Your video is very good, I see the effort you put in to create a great product for us, thank you!*
you're an amazing content creator keep up the great work 😀
There are very nice resorts in Mexico on the shore that still dump raw sewage from the resort right into the ocean. First time I saw the water in the bay turning brown from just past the shoreline out, I was like WTH? Then I realized what it was. Never going back there. Third world countries have a lack of water processing facilities and just dump all the waste in rivers and oceans.
That's what I was thinking about as I watched the video. What about all of the other countries that have no or relaxed regulations regarding refuse? How much crap (no pun intended) are they adding to the water and atmosphere? 🤔
Concerning the resorts in Mexico, cheap labor in Mexico made it interesting for some well-known American companies to move part or the whole of their operations to Mexico. Because of this, I'd be worried about what exactly is in the ocean if the sewage system leads there. A good way to ascertain the health of a pond is to evaluate the general health of the frog population in that pond. Perhaps the effects of recent industrialization should be studied to assess the health risks of those living with these conditions for extended periods of time. But, if you don't have enough money to promote a health campaigm, such as third world countries, then you can't afford to pay for such a campaigm, and nearly anything goes.
If you are worried about carbon dioxide, plant a tree. Plants breath carbon dioxide and trees use a lot of CO2.
They make great fish habitat and reefs and help save shores from storms and storm damages . We need to be doing this every few months.
They dumped thousands of 50 gal metal barrels of DDT in the ocean between San Pedro and Catalina Island !
In termite areas in Australia.. we wish we could protect our houses from being eaten by ddt ... Only thing legal now lasts 5 years before needing expensive re treatment.. DDT lasts centuries.. and can be sprayed directly on humans ..
Not good for endangered bird eggs 😢
"They" was Kodak film company. Unless we're talking about different events, the"DDT" was actually CYANIDE SALTS" that were put on barges by the thousands, and dumped in deep water between San Pedro and Catalina Island. Not long after dumping those drums were rusting through. I fished most of my childhood off the old Seal beach barge, and the Huntington Beach pier. I caught as many deformed fish as normal looking ones. At 12 years old I knew better than to eat any of them. 😢
This video's comments on 4Ocean are right on point. The benefit to the environment for every dollar poured into this company is insanely low. You could do much better to just fill up a trash bag yourself when you're at the beach.
I don't have anything for or against them - I just don't know enough about them to form an informed opinion - but to be fair, there's a demand for the cleanup work that they're doing, and almost nobody else out there providing the supply to meet the demand, meaning that 4Ocean can set their own high prices for as long as they like until someone else finds a way to undercut their prices. They need competition, and where there's room for competition, there's opportunity for new entrepreneurs to step in to help meet the demand for the incentive of a lower but still significant profit margin. Where are the competitors? Maybe some of you can do this more cost-effectively but still sustainably?
Or, not dump waste in the ocean(s) to begin with. The "passing the buck" BS by those responsible has got to stop. 4Ocean might have best intentions, but the fact of the matter is they are simply picking up where someone else left off, and offering another possible solution to the problem. The question is whether their solution is actually solving the problem at hand - and in my opinion, they are not. What is being done with the waste (tires) collected?
Exactly! I'm more of a fan of Ocean Cleanup. They place collection vessels in the mouth of the highest-polluting rivers in the world. In this way, they actually prevent plastic waste from entering our oceans. Collected waste is then sent to appropriate recycling facilities. Of course, there is that which cannot be recycled, and that still has to go to a landfill. @@henricoderre
his voice has changed so much from the first video i watched
Would you agree?
It’s not just one guy. The producers alternate narrators.
really like the format with the animated figuer X-D u are right: 1) who profited from dumping it it? -> should pay at least partly for it 2) really prefer companies to do good and make money than when doing bad, but it must be wholesome and sustainably good
That woman, Jessica Ellen Lee at 15:48 died really young. Only 41 years old 😢❤️🌹. I'm 43.
They should try sinking a ship directly onto an underwater subduction zone . Wonder if the Earth would just eat it up?
In the UK they are still dumping raw sewage into the coastal waters every day!
And where are you putting your personal sewage?
It reminds me of an old Simpsons episode little Lisa's slurry
Good video, and good points there...!
@1:48 thats the Atlantic ocean
Qualifies as the 2nd most depressing documentary to date.Thank you.
I remember a few years ago a documentery was done about all the plastics washing up on tropical islands. A collection system was put in place to see just what was washing up on the beaches. The number one item was toothbrushes. Makes sense since we are told to replace our toothbrushes every month. And so many of them end up on a nice crappy tropical island.
I dont replace m'y toothbrush every month lol maybe every 3 months
It is getting warmer, and the oceans, seas and lakes are also getting warmer, which means the water is getting acidic, and the life in the oceans are dying in droves. The coral reeves are dying faster and faster, so we do need to do something fast, as it will save us in the end too
Lol no it's not
The warmth doesn't make the water acidic. The carbon dioxide dissolving into the ocean makes the water acidic.
I served on nine US Navy ships while I was in G Co, 2nd Bn, 2nd Marines, 2nd Marine Division, Fleet Marine Force, LANT. The ships: USS Mountrail APA-213, USS Raleigh LPD-1, USS Boxer LPH-4, USS Okinawa LPH-3, USS Guadalcanal LPH-7, USS Vermillion AKA-107, USS Montrose APA-212, USS Terrebonne Parish LST-1156, USS Terrebonne Parish LST-1156, and USS York County USS-1175.
Every one of the ships has been used as a target, sunk as a reef, sold for scrap, or sold to foreign countries. The York County was sold to the Italian Navy in 1972 and later scrapped. The Terrebonne Parish was sold to Spain in 1978. The three carriers: The Boxer was originally CV-21. It was completed too late to serve in WWII, but did serve in Korea. Later it was converted to serve as a helicopter assault ship. Both the Okinawa & Guadalcanal were purpose-built as helicopter assault ships, and all the others of this class were named after Marine Corps battles: Iwo Jima, Okinawa, Guadalcanal, Guam, Tripoli, New Orleans, and Inchon.
Thank you for your service. 🇺🇲
Your tax dollars at work.
I was on LPH-7 Guadacanal end of 1979. M 3/2
oops..1978
Well done examination of how the corporations evade responsible for their past actions. I am a capitalist, but don't like cheating
Whether or not the tires had a net gain of sea life in the ocean, this is still a disgusting abomination.
Love your videos!!
Lakes around me and rivers use that all the time with the tires although, unlike the ocean, they act as natural little hiding spots for fish and spawning spots so it’s a better idea for lakes than it is for oceans😂
Yes, that sounds about right, and it seems like there's a lot of outrage about the failed artificial reef solution in the comments, but it seems like a lot of the commenters miss the nuance that there were good intentions behind trying to turn those tire bundles into artificial reefs, even if those good intentions eventually ended up paving the way to the hell that needs to be cleaned up as a result because for all the good intentions, the execution for the artificial reefs was half-baked, failing to account for the effect of salt water and ocean currents on the cables holding the tires together for the reef backbones. In retrospect, the ocean side of it was a terrible idea, but it looked like a great idea back in the '60s, and a lot hippies (and a couple megacorps like Goodyear that managed to get in on the act) got to pat themselves on the back at the time for something that looked like it was going to save the world. To be fair to them, it looks like the freshwater equivalent wasn't as terrible an idea, and may have actually done more good than harm compared to the saltwater equivalent.
But unless they are treated they will still leach chemicals into said lakes and rivers, thereby still wreaking havoc on nature. 🤷♀️
I personally see nothing wrong with anyone capitalizing on cleaning this up. Everything in life can't be a charity, or none of us would be able to sustain. Even if they (are) technically raising the cost/tire to excavate and remove, they have clearly found a way to make progress here, and frankly, I prefer the OPTION to buy their bracelet and help the cause as opposed to being FORCED by the government to pay my share in inflated taxes for something i never had a chance to approve or disaprove on in the first place.... Great video as always - Cheers!
Want a profit? Make the dumpers pay!
Displacing the problem is not a solution to the problem. Nor can this be called progress. The problem has simply been moved elsewhere for someone else to deal with later.
@henricoderre, as I am titled to my opinion, thus are you equally. The "problem" is that this was approved in the 1st place. I think we would both agree that the driving force behind this Ludacris dump was based heavily on "Let's find the cheapest way possible to sweep these tires under the rug" and far less on actually believing that these tires could have been (in any way fathomable) a positive impact on our oceans. Where we differ is on the "progress" part of this equation. By definition, progress is "forward or onward movement toward a destination"; therefore, in order for there not to (be) progress, we would have to had done nothing (zero) to remove (any) tires from the ocean, but in fact , we have removed hundreds of thousands, hence the "progress". Perhaps you meant simply we have not resolved the problem altogether, in which I would wholeheartedly agree.
I for one had no idea that kind of dumping had gone on. Not surprised that the ones who did the dumping are never held accountable. If we know how corrals are made why couldn't we start making them or at least get the building blocks happening?
If you try to make coral isn't that playing God?
Dumping tires is doing the work of the devil.
It’s a really good video very balanced congrats, would be good if you did something similar about the positive and negative side of windfarms, especially floating offshore ones
The ship's name is pronounced "OR-Risk-Can-knee.
This is coming from a retired sailor, I've been aboard that ship. Of course that was before they sank it. lol
MM1 Davis.
U.S. Navy, Retired.
And to think, the people that came up with this amazing idea would have been called "intelligent" and "experts". This is why I'm always a little skeptical of so called experts.
Intelligent enough to make a mess. Intelligent enough to get others to clean it up. Intelligent enough to still make a profit off of it. Intelligent enough to convince others that the problem is not our problem. Being that intelligent makes us experts. LOL.
To be fair, decisions are made based on current understanding and knowledge. Hindsight is an amazing thing.
Carbon Dioxide is NOT a pollutant. It is the major part of the food that plants eat and that is why more CO2 is good for plants.
¡¡ Damn the brainiacs that thought up & approved the tire dumping project without serious studies on the effects !!‼️
Leadership never changes, am I right?
it was in the 70s and people weren't very environmental smart back then 😓
I wouldn't be calling them brainiacs, but we're on the same page. The whole thing was a sham! All parties involved just wanted the problem gone once and for all.
I'm thinking someone got paid to dispose of a shipload of tires without burning them. Thus This Plan was hatched.
@@henricoderre I feel like they only wanted the credit and not to help
Unbelievable 😖😞🙏
So that's where retreads come from. 😮