I remember these trains from the 1950's. At that time I lived in Pensilvania and use to watch the steam and diesel trains go by. You never ever forget the sounds and smells.
The SantaFe is the quintessential 1950s Lionel. If you don't have the originals, this set is a fine way to re-live the essence of Lionel in a by-gone era. Even the cars are good representations of the originals. I got a chuckle about the milk car ... yes, I have the original, and it too jams once in a while. The Auto Loader looks really fine.. Brings back the feeling of childhood in the 50s, with my Dad... bless his Spirit.. I would add those decals like you mentioned... that would be a nice addition to the new release locos.
I also love F3's and it all began with a set from my uncle of the Santa Fe diesels with silver passenger cars as a kid in the '50's with a train track loop under the annual Christmas tree! Colorful engines and cabooses are my favorites, so the Kansas City Southern F3's come in 2nd to the Santa Fe F3's. Pretty cool that you have the new and old matching sets!
Those early versions are impressive Zack, you’ve got some nice ones. I just got a tiny LC+2.0 steamer, the features continue to amaze. She’ll grow on you. The new technology is impressive, with smooth running hardware, and the fit-and-finish are top notch. Congratz!
Thanks!! Congrats on the steamer!! I am pretty impressed with the LC 2.0 system. Seems to be a great runner, and love the sounds out of them. May have to look into some other LC 2 stuff in the future. Happy Railroading
Now that's a lethal weapon!! Love the unboxing video! I can see where you are coming from with the paint but i think the yellow strip up the middle of the nose makes up for it! Sounds great love the horn! Over all nice addition to the fleet Zac!!.......
Really nice set! I agree that the red is off, and I'm not fond of the white handrails on the nose, but wow, what an improvement in sound over the original LionChief+ offerings. I do think they hit a home run with the rolling stock. Thanks for the nice review, this is the first I've seen of the new 2.0 sets.
Just got the same set in on Wednesday and love it. This is my first Lionel purchase. My current trains are MTH RTR so I broke bad and purchased this Sanford Fe set.
Zack I think the set is really beautiful it’s actually nice that Lionell did not use the same exact color otherwise you’d have all your F 3 with the same colors. I think the design of adding the yellow stripe in the front makes the engine look sharp. I’m also excited to see that Lionell re issued some of their classic cars to this set. Enjoy Richard.
I like your comparison of the postwar engine and cars with the new ones. The trucks on the modern set appear to be sprung rather than bar end. Is this true?
I do believe the paint is prototypical to the real thing, just wish it matched the postwar Lionel engine it is replicating. Still looks great all the same.
Everything looking great really enjoyed the unboxing and glad you like the new purchase it fits in well when all the trains were going round take care 😀👍
This set has interested me greatly! Good to hear someones opinion on it. I kind of agree about the paint scheme. Although the set is cool, nothing can top the original! I have the Postwar 2243 and its one of my favorite postwar diesels!
I think she looks great Zack. I like the red horns and the yellow nose stripe. Give her a little more flair. I have a 2343 set that a friend of the family gave me but she needs alot of work to get her running again. Someone left the battery in it and it ruined the frame and did a number to the wiring. But anyways have fun with your new toy and happy model railroading.
I have a Lionel G-gauge Santa Fe passenger set, along with three other G-gauge sets, Pennsylvania and New York Central freight sets and the Polar Express passenger set.
flat matt red vs gloss red I think what throws this off as a loco set is i think it is suppose to in a a-b-a setup meaning you are missing the power car to finish off the set
Hey Zach I want you to know I was already interested in the set. After your review I decided to pull the trigger on it. However I did get a significant eye roll from the girl. But she will get over it. I also love it and it looks damn good. I do however need a bigger space for the trains. Imagine that.
At 7:13 comparing the windshields with the older unites, It looks to me like they are almost flat instead of V shaped. And the roundness of the nose is different too. Plus the paint stripping on the roof is wrong. I Don't care for them much. That's just my opinion.
AMAZING set! I too am a huge fan of the F3s and Santa Fe especially. I agree with you, I think the gloss red looks a little better, and I think the gloss is more prototypical as well. The red horns on top of the cab also speak to some quality shortcuts... oh well, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Still, I agree with you, it is a fantastic looking set! Nice purchase, congrats!
There's currently 1,500 Lionel F3 & 150 Lionel Santa Fe F3 units on e bay. Not sure what the appeal is with buying the exact same thing from Lionel (re-released 25 times or more) when you can find them second hand at 75% less.
Looks great, but the locos should have the blue paint scheme for freight trains. I like both the red passenger and blue freight colors, and I try to keep rivet counting to a minimum.
I agree. The red does look a bit cheap in comparison to the originals. It does look like a rather nice set. Have you ever considered purchasing one of Williams postwar sets. Ive always been curious about that Texas Special set they have.
I’ve had one Williams set in my hands once. When I was looking for the 2245 TX special I almost picked up a Williams version from a hobby shop. It looked good, and seemed to run good too, but I couldn’t get past the flatter red on it. I held out, and am happy I did. Picked up an original 2245 set a few months later. It was a nice set though! I just get a little uppity when comparing to the originals lol
@@CountryBunkersTrains Thanks for the input. I can definitely understand your position. I was always curios about how the williams trains looked in comparison to their original lionel counterparts.
Looks and sounds good. But why did they choose to put an E-bell on the sound set? That would bother me. The F3 would have used either a pneumatic or electro-mechanical bell.
Thanks for the unboxing and review! Well done! It seems that Lionel has problems with color selection and finish treatment. It was supposed to be similar to the original and missed the mark. They need to better understand the customer or proof the prototypes better.
I like the video. The set is spot on except for two things ... The diesels fall short of recreating the original by color and by the stripe not stopping below the headlight. Of course the lack of the Lionel and GM tags add to it as well. The second is the caboose they. Outdoor have made it like the boxy original and made it smoke for fun. Look these sets cost enough one should not settle. But if you’re happy with it that’s all that matters ... Happy Railroading and nice layout.
You are right about the colors on the locomotives, but what can one expect from "made in China"? You could try spraying a little high gloss clear coat on them and the sedans. It is a awesome set!
Lionel went out of their way to bring back modern post war F3 Santa Fe diesels. Why be so picky about red horns etc. It is a Postwar conventional Classic for gosh sakes! I would rather have these new trains than the old ones any day. Lionel made a huge Santa Fe streamliner set in 2007 I think, two A units and 2 or 3 B units. About 7 or 8 cars I think. We need more appreciation for what Lionel does for us perfectionists. Great job Lionel, and thank you a hundred times!
At 15:56, How do you run other trains and have those Santa Fe's not be on if the tracks are connected with switches? Wouldn't the electricity turn those on as well?
Would you like to buy just one more Santa F diesel set by MTF with the aluminum passenger cars that I bought new in 1997 and I've never taken them out of the boxes it is equipped with Proto sound. It was the first set that is called the "The El Capitan"it is definitely the best looking Santa Fe set:( in my opinion) ever built for O gauge modeling and I've been in the hobby for seventy years.
Accessories come from a bit of everywhere. eBay, train store, for sale ads. Engines and a lot of the rolling stock comes from my local train store Roundhouse south trains in Port Orange FL. Thank you!
Good deal! Hope you get one Dennis! It’s been worth it to me so far. Been running it a lot this past week, and no issues (keeping fingers crossed). Take care
Zack, great video ! I don't have any lionel chief trains and no longer own any tmcc stuff either. I enjoyed this video but was curious how you were operating the train set on your layout? Can you tell us what you are using? Thanks, Glenn in AZ
Thanks Glenn! Yea, I’ve only got 2 TMCC equipped engines at the moment. Don’t run them a whole lot. The set is operated via TMCC hooked up to the MTH DCS system. Thank you for watching!
@@CountryBunkersTrains thanks for the information. I knew your 2344 had been converted to ERR and I saw it run but didn't really give it much thought. When I saw your new 120th anniversary F3 set it made me wonder what you were running it on. Thanks again. Always enjoy watching your videos. I am more of a postwar leaning guy but have a few proto 2 engines as well. No tmcc stuff since they did not run very well in our club layout so I sold them. Keep the videos coming!
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I remember these trains from the 1950's. At that time I lived in Pensilvania and use to watch the steam and diesel trains go by. You never ever forget the sounds and smells.
Me too!!!
Amazing OLD O Guage track
Man those Santa Fe engines look amazing.
The SantaFe is the quintessential 1950s Lionel. If you don't have the originals, this set is a fine way to re-live the essence of Lionel in a by-gone era. Even the cars are good representations of the originals. I got a chuckle about the milk car ... yes, I have the original, and it too jams once in a while. The Auto Loader looks really fine.. Brings back the feeling of childhood in the 50s, with my Dad... bless his Spirit..
I would add those decals like you mentioned... that would be a nice addition to the new release locos.
The F3 is such a classic, the most iconic model train ever built!
love the new set not a big fan of the red horns but still looks and sounds great
I also love F3's and it all began with a set from my uncle of the Santa Fe diesels with silver passenger cars as a kid in the '50's with a train track loop under the annual Christmas tree! Colorful engines and cabooses are my favorites, so the Kansas City Southern F3's come in 2nd to the Santa Fe F3's. Pretty cool that you have the new and old matching sets!
Thank you Zach. I appreciate the shout out. I hope you enjoy your Lionel 120th anniversary set.
Absolutely Al! Thank you for all the great videos! Shouldn’t be too hard to enjoy! LOL take care
My husband and I are disappointed that you were given a pa. And not a Santa Fe caboose. Great videos keep up the great work.😀
Lionel lines......
Pay no attention to the PRR look.......
This was a big inspiration to get my own Warbonnet F3s.
Those early versions are impressive Zack, you’ve got some nice ones. I just got a tiny LC+2.0 steamer, the features continue to amaze. She’ll grow on you. The new technology is impressive, with smooth running hardware, and the fit-and-finish are top notch. Congratz!
Thanks!! Congrats on the steamer!! I am pretty impressed with the LC 2.0 system. Seems to be a great runner, and love the sounds out of them. May have to look into some other LC 2 stuff in the future. Happy Railroading
Now that's a lethal weapon!! Love the unboxing video! I can see where you are coming from with the paint but i think the yellow strip up the middle of the nose makes up for it! Sounds great love the horn! Over all nice addition to the fleet Zac!!.......
Thanks Eric!! I am happy to have it! As said I can look past the red. Might do some “custom” stuff to it as mentioned. Happy Railroading!
Really nice set! I agree that the red is off, and I'm not fond of the white handrails on the nose, but wow, what an improvement in sound over the original LionChief+ offerings. I do think they hit a home run with the rolling stock. Thanks for the nice review, this is the first I've seen of the new 2.0 sets.
Thanks Rick! Glad you enjoyed it! Was hoping to get a video out on it ASAP. Figured a lot of people would be interested in it.
Looks pretty darn good and the sound set is an improvement for sure!
The sounds are excellent!
Just got the same set in on Wednesday and love it. This is my first Lionel purchase. My current trains are MTH RTR so I broke bad and purchased this Sanford Fe set.
She was a big purchase for sure! Glad to hear you are enjoying it!! I’ve been enjoying it as well.
I just acquired a Lionel E-6 Sante Fe AA set #14. Plus I just purchased a Sante Fe passenger set to go along with it.
Very nice!
One of my favorite cabooses! Love the work you put in the layout bro.
Thanks Mike!
Very nice set
Zack I think the set is really beautiful it’s actually nice that Lionell did not use the same exact color otherwise you’d have all your F 3 with the same colors. I think the design of adding the yellow stripe in the front makes the engine look sharp. I’m also excited to see that Lionell re issued some of their classic cars to this set. Enjoy Richard.
I like your comparison of the postwar engine and cars with the new ones. The trucks on the modern set appear to be sprung rather than bar end. Is this true?
WOW THAT SOUNDS GREAT MAN. I WISH I WOULD HAVE GOT ME ONE
Train layout is looking great cant wait to see what is next.
Thanks Arthur! Glad you are enjoying the channel.
After researching old photos of many different Sante Fe diesels I feel Lionel got it right with the color.
I do believe the paint is prototypical to the real thing, just wish it matched the postwar Lionel engine it is replicating. Still looks great all the same.
Thats a very nice set im really considering picking this up.
Everything looking great really enjoyed the unboxing and glad you like the new purchase it fits in well when all the trains were going round take care 😀👍
Thanks Michael! Glad you enjoyed the video! Take care as well
Very nice Zack. I agree with you on the red paint. However, the set looks awesome. The postwar 2343 is next on my list!
Thanks Steve!! Hope you are able to find that perfect 2343 set!
This is an amazing set!
Nice looking set. Great addition to the layout. SR
A great looking set, now I feel like I need one. Thanks😀. You deserve a commission from Lionel.
Thanks Jeff! I hope you get one! It’s been a blast so far. Still waiting to hear from Lionel for that sponsorship! LOL
I Love That Santa Fe Lionel Lionchief Set.
All in all, that's still a nice looking set! Enjoy!
Cool set! The red does leave much to be desired, however I agree the sounds do help make up for it
This set has interested me greatly! Good to hear someones opinion on it. I kind of agree about the paint scheme. Although the set is cool, nothing can top the original! I have the Postwar 2243 and its one of my favorite postwar diesels!
No beating the original Santa Fe’s for sure!!
Looks and runs very nice! A sexy unit!
I love your new lionel train set it awesome thought I think the older santa fe look much better then new ones
Impressive! Keep 'em coming!
Thanks!
I think she looks great Zack. I like the red horns and the yellow nose stripe. Give her a little more flair. I have a 2343 set that a friend of the family gave me but she needs alot of work to get her running again. Someone left the battery in it and it ruined the frame and did a number to the wiring. But anyways have fun with your new toy and happy model railroading.
Thanks Jerome! I hope you are able to save that 2343 set! No better engine IMO. Good luck with it and thanks for watching!
Very happy for you and thank you for sharing. As far as I'm concerned you can never have enough Sante Fe engines. Hahahaha
No such thing as too many Santa Fe’s!!! LOL thank you!
I have a Lionel G-gauge Santa Fe passenger set, along with three other G-gauge sets, Pennsylvania and New York Central freight sets and the Polar Express passenger set.
I’ve got train set envy! 😂 Great set!!
Thanks Thomas!
Very nice video. Well done. Thanks
Thank you!
That's a great set!!! Only noticed the yellow stripe on the 2.0
I agree with you not felling the red! Maybe repaint them gloss red
Al, I agree on the red, but everything else looks great. I had that original milk car when Santa brought it to me in the 1940’s
Thanks Thomas!
Awesome video. The train is
Amazing
Man nice set. That is a mouthfuls for sure good thing you pre ordered i believe its SOLD OUT.
I have a Williams set. A A Santa fe F 3 . I will do a video of it.
Looks like a hand full .
Good choice
Yea Bunker it will grow on you overtime,
The new set has plenty to off set the difference in the paint.
Hey thats a great set.
Not sure Bunk. I got hosed on the CC 2343s and had to get replacement shells. I can’t believe they have issues getting their signature engine correct
I heard about that the other week with the CC SF’s. It is weird how they can’t match the red. Idk if they do that on purpose, or if it’s a mistake.
@@CountryBunkersTrains Maybe try a little wax or polishing compound to bring out the gloss.
Love the unboxing!!
Thank you!
The tracks are classic!!!
flat matt red vs gloss red
I think what throws this off as a loco set is i think it is suppose to in a a-b-a setup meaning you are missing the power car to finish off the set
Nice video, thanks for sharing, will agree with you the red is a little off but nice set anyway, thanks again for the video.
Your army train is something else!!!
Thanks Joe!
That really is a nice set - enjoyed the video!
Thank you!
Nice all the way round, especially tht new York central
Good stuff sir, ur almost to 2k subs!
Thank you Michael! Pretty shocked about that!
Hey Zach I want you to know I was already interested in the set. After your review I decided to pull the trigger on it. However I did get a significant eye roll from the girl. But she will get over it. I also love it and it looks damn good. I do however need a bigger space for the trains. Imagine that.
Too much space is never enough! LOL glad to hear you are enjoying it! It’s a great set for sure! Hopefully the misses can learn to love it! Thank you!
Wow! That sets pretty cool! Idk I like the red, looks great to me.
Nice train set really like F3 engines
At 7:13 comparing the windshields with the older unites, It looks to me like they are almost flat instead of V shaped. And the roundness of the nose is different too. Plus the paint stripping on the roof is wrong. I Don't care for them much. That's just my opinion.
Awesome train set
Very nice.
AMAZING set! I too am a huge fan of the F3s and Santa Fe especially. I agree with you, I think the gloss red looks a little better, and I think the gloss is more prototypical as well. The red horns on top of the cab also speak to some quality shortcuts... oh well, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Still, I agree with you, it is a fantastic looking set! Nice purchase, congrats!
Thank you!
All of my Lionel Trains are from the 50s when I was a kid. Can you do a video on "programing in" a train set like this new 120 Santa Fe?
There's currently 1,500 Lionel F3 & 150 Lionel Santa Fe F3 units on e bay. Not sure what the appeal is with buying the exact same thing from Lionel (re-released 25 times or more) when you can find them second hand at 75% less.
No such thing as too many Santa Fe’s!
Good points all, but passenger cars with a done and Big Dome along with a proper diner and silver trucks would be great, if pricey! BDS
Very cool throwback set. Not my cup of tea, but Lionel did a great job of recreating a classic.
Yes • very nice • Cool 😎
Looks great, but the locos should have the blue paint scheme for freight trains. I like both the red passenger and blue freight colors, and I try to keep rivet counting to a minimum.
That set is really cool! The milk car is so quiet compared to the original :P Awesome video!
Thanks!!
Beautiful big fan of the Fe diesel enjoy!
I agree. The red does look a bit cheap in comparison to the originals. It does look like a rather nice set. Have you ever considered purchasing one of Williams postwar sets. Ive always been curious about that Texas Special set they have.
I’ve had one Williams set in my hands once. When I was looking for the 2245 TX special I almost picked up a Williams version from a hobby shop. It looked good, and seemed to run good too, but I couldn’t get past the flatter red on it. I held out, and am happy I did. Picked up an original 2245 set a few months later. It was a nice set though! I just get a little uppity when comparing to the originals lol
@@CountryBunkersTrains Thanks for the input. I can definitely understand your position. I was always curios about how the williams trains looked in comparison to their original lionel counterparts.
I love that train wish i had it
Very nice set! If it wasn't so pricey, I'd get one.
I love your videos And we love you 😍
Looks and sounds good. But why did they choose to put an E-bell on the sound set? That would bother me. The F3 would have used either a pneumatic or electro-mechanical bell.
Not just an opinion. Your observation is correct. Red paint is flat and dull looking. PW red is not as flat. Agree, nice set none the less.
Awesome set I really enjoy your vids kutgw a cool layout
Thank you!
Thanks for the unboxing and review! Well done! It seems that Lionel has problems with color selection and finish treatment. It was supposed to be similar to the original and missed the mark. They need to better understand the customer or proof the prototypes better.
Nice.
Nice engines!
I like the video. The set is spot on except for two things ... The diesels fall short of recreating the original by color and by the stripe not stopping below the headlight. Of course the lack of the Lionel and GM tags add to it as well. The second is the caboose they. Outdoor have made it like the boxy original and made it smoke for fun. Look these sets cost enough one should not settle. But if you’re happy with it that’s all that matters ... Happy Railroading and nice layout.
You are right about the colors on the locomotives, but what can one expect from "made in China"? You could try spraying a little high gloss clear coat on them and the sedans. It is a awesome set!
Lionel went out of their way to bring back modern post war F3 Santa Fe diesels. Why be so picky about red horns etc. It is a Postwar conventional Classic for gosh sakes! I would rather have these new trains than the old ones any day. Lionel made a huge Santa Fe streamliner set in 2007 I think, two A units and 2 or 3 B units. About 7 or 8 cars I think. We need more appreciation for what Lionel does for us perfectionists. Great job Lionel, and thank you a hundred times!
How many F3's do you have???.. beautiful
At 15:56, How do you run other trains and have those Santa Fe's not be on if the tracks are connected with switches? Wouldn't the electricity turn those on as well?
The sidings are isolated away from the main track work with a powered switch installed to turn them on and off.
@@CountryBunkersTrains Oh that makes sence. Thanks zach!
My cousin just got the same set I love it!
Would you like to buy just one more Santa F diesel set by MTF with the aluminum passenger cars that I bought new in 1997 and I've never taken them out of the boxes it is equipped with Proto sound. It was the first set that is called the "The El Capitan"it is definitely the best looking Santa Fe set:( in my opinion) ever built for O gauge modeling and I've been in the hobby for seventy years.
Thank you Lavern! I appreciate the thought! Think I’ve got my hands full of SF’s at the moment though. I’ll ask around if anyone would be interested.
Where do you order your model train accessories? Great Trains.
Accessories come from a bit of everywhere. eBay, train store, for sale ads. Engines and a lot of the rolling stock comes from my local train store Roundhouse south trains in Port Orange FL. Thank you!
Man I might have to get one of those 899 is that a good deal I think it looks great I like the paint
Good deal! Hope you get one Dennis! It’s been worth it to me so far. Been running it a lot this past week, and no issues (keeping fingers crossed). Take care
Nice set, and you are correct, the red just isn't quite right, but still a nice set
That set looks awesome my guess is they used the new modern paint on it instead of the old gloss
Not the same paint, I just found your Channel and I'm impressed with your videos.
Bob Cooney
Salt Lake City Utah
Welcome aboard Bob!! Thank you! Glad you are enjoying the channel!
LOL - you are always excited!
They should give you a gold plated dagger......
Way too cool.....has great classic post war cars!
Red is fine......🙄
Of coarse! Whenever it involves some O gauge goodness!! LOL
I agree with that color I think it would be more glossy.
Can you show us how to program a LionChief Plus 2.0 using Legacy Command system, please. From start to running it, thanks
Hey Jim, sorry I do not have a Legacy set to demo with. Only the TMCC setup through the DCS system.
@@CountryBunkersTrains Thanks, I figured it out. Love your Channel and your personality, God bless,
and thanks for all your hard work.
I’m with you a little bit shiny red would’ve been nice but even the decals are different structure
Yea, they are.
Nice Video
Zack, great video ! I don't have any lionel chief trains and no longer own any tmcc stuff either. I enjoyed this video but was curious how you were operating the train set on your layout? Can you tell us what you are using? Thanks, Glenn in AZ
Thanks Glenn! Yea, I’ve only got 2 TMCC equipped engines at the moment. Don’t run them a whole lot. The set is operated via TMCC hooked up to the MTH DCS system. Thank you for watching!
@@CountryBunkersTrains thanks for the information. I knew your 2344 had been converted to ERR and I saw it run but didn't really give it much thought. When I saw your new 120th anniversary F3 set it made me wonder what you were running it on. Thanks again. Always enjoy watching your videos. I am more of a postwar leaning guy but have a few proto 2 engines as well. No tmcc stuff since they did not run very well in our club layout so I sold them. Keep the videos coming!
I guess if the modern chassis are the same build as the postwar chassis you could just swap the shells out! I'm sure it's not that easy though
It doesn't look as good as postwar but I would still like to own them. Sounds awesome.
I'll take any of those santa fe f3 a units anyday. I'll probably end up buying a set of post war a units from the 50s at tax time.
Hey, what ballast did you use along the track? It looks good on MTH track.
It’s actually good old kitty litter lol. The cheap special kitty brand from Walmart. Thank you!
@@CountryBunkersTrains haha. It looks good. My cat might use it😟
This set is so beautiful I want one so badly. But why an e bell?
F unit s don’t have e bells