It's true. And it also gives you another useful stereo pair for pianos too where these sound lovely too. That's my favourite application for these. I doubt a pair of MD421s would be the goto for piano, most of the time at least ;) And a good pair to have for clear, crisp articulate backing vocals too. For overheads, the Warm Audio equivalent might be a good alternative; it's a darker voiced mic, which might also be decent on guitar cabs too. Though I'd much prefer the usual dynamics, m160s, Royer R121s or if going with a condensor...the lovely Soyuz 1974/017 Bomblet.
@@RecordingStudioLoser I like the little Line Audio CM4s for when I'm scared of the drummer. They are a hard target to hit, and really look just like the barrel end of an XLR cable, since they aren't much bigger/wider than that. They're neutral, but very slightly dark, which is nice for toms, overheads, violin/viola, high brass.
I've got a C414 but somehow it has stayed In the mic locker since I prefer to use tube mic. It's great for getting acoustic guitars to cut through busy mixes though, since it's very bright and focused.
Great voice my man! I've found these are a great choice for a nice natural brightness. At the price, great to have a pair for clear backing vocals and they're good on spoken word too. Drums, bass, guitar all sounding very right too. If the violin was OC16, I'm not sure it would be my first choice for that application - it emphasises the nasal character, and brings out the steely/grainly bowing noise a bit too much for my own taste. I like these 414 on overheads, especially to bring out the detail on kits played with brushes. But most of the time, I prefer u47 FET type mics, or even KM84s (when not ribbons, m160s etc..). And preferring these 414-types more for clear toms. They're fantastic to have a pair for piano, and probably would be great on double bass and cello.
I have a 214. Not bad. But it’s certainly not a 414. The 16 doesn’t sound a 214 to me. It’s not exactly a 414 either. But it feels like a more appropriate comparison in character.
I mean, yes if all you need is a cardioid polar pattern, then the oc16 is a no brainer, but the multi patterns on a 414 (or oc818), is largely the point for me, not an extra or bonus feature…
I've peronaly never tried it but when looking into drum sounds I love, it seems 414's are on toms a lot of the time. Obviously alot goes into getting drum sounds but it's at a point where it can't be a coincidence to my ears haha. Might have to grab a couple of these and give it a shot. Great video as always Jeremey. P.S. Love the track at the start!!
Yes. In a different context, 414 style stuff is massive on toms. Here i needed something a lighter, (at least I felt that way). Very much a "for this song" type of answer here. But its totally valid. I love c414s on country session on shells. for this i wanted that "swoosh" thing 414s tend to do on the tops for that early 2000s style tune
I would challenge the statement that you're overpaying if you buy a C414. I think too many people think "expensive" and "rip off" are the same thing. The C414 is worth the money to a lot of people (including me). It is also true that I wouldn't buy one on my budget. And less expensive mics can also sound great.
Brother... You need the "De-Bearder" plugin Jens Bogren talks about in one of his videos to give it a more dramatic touch to the vocal sound 😜excellent song... Thank you for all the valuable information you're putting out there. Fist bump from a Venezuelan lost in Ecuador!
Howdy! ✌🏻 What an awesome video, great, great review, and I'm definitely gonna add that mic to my collection. 🤟🏻 P.S. We need that song released, either streaming or digital download... 😁💪🏻 Just had it on repeat a few times. 👌🏻
It actually probably probably sounds a little better than modern C-414's. Even if it's cardioid only...Gotta trust Austrian Audio.... It is the O.G. AKG engineers!
Pipes boi!!! As a pretty okay-to-decent singer, I am humbled by your apparent skills. How much pitch correction? Some yeah? I feel like you left a few areas raw and touched up some others, is that way off?
I got about 18 mics in my collection. I’ve yet to spend over $400 on a mic. All I know is budget mics. lol. I look forward to a day I can justify spending more than $500. My favorite budget microphone is the Aston Orgin. Got 3 of them. Had 5 but gave a few of them to buddies ( they were used off eBay ) . I got the damn mic tattooed on me 😆
Sure. And even that is a point of contention among some people… are the xls or xlII even “really” c414s. I think they sound great 👍 I own a couple myself.
The audio for this orchestra is recorded on Austrian Audio and Lewitt mics. th-cam.com/video/RX6-lKgRUzQ/w-d-xo.html The mics never disappoint, but I might be biased just because I am the video guy in this context.
@@RecordingStudioLoser I will pass that on! Maybe I can get a walkthrough of the setup and put it up here on the TH-cam. We have three or four concerts next week.
It kinda depends on the version you reference. The old nylons. The top end is very different. The xls - actually feels pretty close. The xlII- way brighter top. More boost around 2-3k ish.
@RecordingStudioLoser yeah kinda but also not. it's also a transformerless mic like the xls and so on but it doesn't get lost as much in a mix. the xls is gone as soon as you add other elements. Also the top end is kinda grainy. It makes them the perfect guitar amp mic or for something that benefits from the midrange like a trombone or kick out but on vocals these suck. Take a 414 over the 818 every day.
@@RecordingStudioLoser lol I love the degree to which your ellipsis there is a supplication to the algorithmic demigods that you may soon have some Warm Audio gear bestowed upon you. May it be so! 🤞...
No no no. It’s because of something much more ridiculous… I don’t like warms logo… (I know it’s dumb) it’s like Peavey’s logo. I just don’t like it. I love the 5150. But I always thought twice about peavey gear because of it. Warms logo is the same for me. I know it’s dumb. 🤷
@@RecordingStudioLoser OMGsh, no, I LOVE this reason! lol A.) I generally agree with it (even more so in the case of Peavey 😝), and B.) I sincerely believe that not enough creative people sufficiently take aesthetics into consideration! Been thinking about making a video on that subject for a while myself, honestly. Anyway, others may think it's ridiculous, but I'm happy to join you in this ridiculousness! 😄 Keep up the good work!
That said I see joy coming from different things among different people. Some from gear, some from utilizing tools they can afford given circumstance. That said… Yes this is a different microphone than the c414. But these are the hands that used to make them.
Considering the music you're performing, any mic could do it. Mozart said it way before "as long as she's alive and wears a skirt..." Try your theory on a solo classical piano in a hall.
I’m a trained operatic tenor, and I record operatic, orchestral, a cappella music quite a bit. Regardless of genre any mic will work in any context given you know its strengths and weaknesses. I have used and made videos in that style if you care to take a gander. However I very much disagree that style of music somehow makes mic choice irrelevant.
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The Song is live! music.th-cam.com/video/SY9RqZo_LVI/w-d-xo.html&si=3nalXxV6t2J-Dzvr
Check out the mic: sweetwater.sjv.io/K00dEn
I just want to point out how impressive it is that you've been writing whole songs for these videos
It’s been good for me too. Even though stuff gets busy I need to give myself that time to write.
I love my OC818 but this makes using "414"s on toms a viable option without going broke. At a third of the price it's pretty amazing.
…and less stressful depending on the drummer…
It's true. And it also gives you another useful stereo pair for pianos too where these sound lovely too. That's my favourite application for these. I doubt a pair of MD421s would be the goto for piano, most of the time at least ;) And a good pair to have for clear, crisp articulate backing vocals too. For overheads, the Warm Audio equivalent might be a good alternative; it's a darker voiced mic, which might also be decent on guitar cabs too. Though I'd much prefer the usual dynamics, m160s, Royer R121s or if going with a condensor...the lovely Soyuz 1974/017 Bomblet.
@@RecordingStudioLoser I like the little Line Audio CM4s for when I'm scared of the drummer. They are a hard target to hit, and really look just like the barrel end of an XLR cable, since they aren't much bigger/wider than that. They're neutral, but very slightly dark, which is nice for toms, overheads, violin/viola, high brass.
@@compucorder64 CM4s are absolutely amazing for their price. I actually love them on guitar cab's for crunchy tones - much more precise than a 57.
This is a great format for your channel. It combines every aspect of what you bring to the table and your songs are excellent, Rock On!
You are too kind.
Holy Schmidt! What a cool tune! I REALLY like your vocals on this!
I had a lot of fun putting that one together.
What an amazing journey you’ve been on, Jeremy! Kudos from a long time viewer
Dude…you’re an amazing musician 🤘🏽
You’re too kind.
JOOO, this video popped up on my feed and man, love what you do! The song was awesome and very great video on the mic.
Thanks!
Man, I really love your voice, great tune and great video.
What version of the 414 does this compare most closely to? On the hunt for a good B-ULS clone
I've got a C414 but somehow it has stayed In the mic locker since I prefer to use tube mic. It's great for getting acoustic guitars to cut through busy mixes though, since it's very bright and focused.
How would you compare these to the wa14s? I know they based those off an older c414, but curious if you’ve tried both.
Love that bass tone!
Great song, awesome voice/vocals!
Do you have any experience with the OC18?
The 699€ cardioid only version of the OC818.
I don’t. I do that the 818.
But I know the 16 and the 18 have the same capsule. Obviously lots more options on the 18.
Great voice my man! I've found these are a great choice for a nice natural brightness. At the price, great to have a pair for clear backing vocals and they're good on spoken word too. Drums, bass, guitar all sounding very right too. If the violin was OC16, I'm not sure it would be my first choice for that application - it emphasises the nasal character, and brings out the steely/grainly bowing noise a bit too much for my own taste. I like these 414 on overheads, especially to bring out the detail on kits played with brushes. But most of the time, I prefer u47 FET type mics, or even KM84s (when not ribbons, m160s etc..). And preferring these 414-types more for clear toms. They're fantastic to have a pair for piano, and probably would be great on double bass and cello.
why compare it to a c414 and not a c214?
I have a 214. Not bad. But it’s certainly not a 414. The 16 doesn’t sound a 214 to me. It’s not exactly a 414 either. But it feels like a more appropriate comparison in character.
@ ah I see, the comparison was sonically, all I had in my head were the features. Thanks for the info!
I mean, yes if all you need is a cardioid polar pattern, then the oc16 is a no brainer, but the multi patterns on a 414 (or oc818), is largely the point for me, not an extra or bonus feature…
Yes yes yes. You do a lot with cardiod. But a 414 on fig 8 is the sound of Acoustic to me.
Holy shit what a voice!
I appreciate that 💪
I've peronaly never tried it but when looking into drum sounds I love, it seems 414's are on toms a lot of the time. Obviously alot goes into getting drum sounds but it's at a point where it can't be a coincidence to my ears haha. Might have to grab a couple of these and give it a shot. Great video as always Jeremey. P.S. Love the track at the start!!
Yes. In a different context, 414 style stuff is massive on toms. Here i needed something a lighter, (at least I felt that way). Very much a "for this song" type of answer here. But its totally valid. I love c414s on country session on shells. for this i wanted that "swoosh" thing 414s tend to do on the tops for that early 2000s style tune
@@RecordingStudioLoser It is safe to say you nailed it!
🫡
Wow!! I’ve always loved your channel but this is next level cool!
You’re a next level sweetie pie.
This song is giving me Anberlin vibes... good stuff!
I’m so ok with that
I would challenge the statement that you're overpaying if you buy a C414. I think too many people think "expensive" and "rip off" are the same thing. The C414 is worth the money to a lot of people (including me). It is also true that I wouldn't buy one on my budget. And less expensive mics can also sound great.
Brother... You need the "De-Bearder" plugin Jens Bogren talks about in one of his videos to give it a more dramatic touch to the vocal sound 😜excellent song... Thank you for all the valuable information you're putting out there. Fist bump from a Venezuelan lost in Ecuador!
It’s my built in compressor. Lol
When does the tour start? NASTY!!!❤
lol I wish.
Great find! I'm definitely going to look into this mic!
Got one of these that I picked up for using on vocals, in addition to a Neumann TLM and instead of a Lewitt 240.Its a good mic, I like it.
Love it when you showcase songs you sing on dude!
Howdy! ✌🏻 What an awesome video, great, great review, and I'm definitely gonna add that mic to my collection. 🤟🏻
P.S. We need that song released, either streaming or digital download... 😁💪🏻
Just had it on repeat a few times. 👌🏻
It should be on Spotify today or tomorrow
@RecordingStudioLoser pre-saved already. I'm just waiting for it. 😁🤟🏻
💪💪
THIS IS A FUCKNG BANGER MAN. this whole time youve been holding out. 10/10
Another BANGER! Let us know when the album release is...
It actually probably probably sounds a little better than modern C-414's. Even if it's cardioid only...Gotta trust Austrian Audio.... It is the O.G. AKG engineers!
Sold me on considering this next time I’m in the market for a nice mic.
Good opening tune, legit rocks, big melody hook. Totally dig that format; show us, uhh aurally, before you tell us.
I wanna be in your live band ❤
💪💪
I wanna be your band.
Nice vid! I really enjoyed the song on the intro. I wonder how the OC16 would compare to a Sennheiser Mk4? They're both at that $400 mark.
Pipes boi!!! As a pretty okay-to-decent singer, I am humbled by your apparent skills. How much pitch correction? Some yeah? I feel like you left a few areas raw and touched up some others, is that way off?
Great song intro!!
that's a hell of a chorus
Great song, great video!!
Another great option for the same price is the Warm Audio WA-14
I got about 18 mics in my collection. I’ve yet to spend over $400 on a mic. All I know is budget mics. lol. I look forward to a day I can justify spending more than $500. My favorite budget microphone is the Aston Orgin. Got 3 of them. Had 5 but gave a few of them to buddies ( they were used off eBay ) . I got the damn mic tattooed on me 😆
I really wanna see the tat now
@ lol. I send it to you in a PM. lol.
C414 is a staple, new at 1499 is not expensive.. Great that we all use different paint brushes! Noting is bad anymore..
Sure. And even that is a point of contention among some people… are the xls or xlII even “really” c414s. I think they sound great 👍 I own a couple myself.
love the vid more of your own creative stuff please!
Well honestly all the good feedback makes me want to make more!
Man are you releasing these intro songs or you're just casually making bangers for a video
Since the last one I started releasing them. It was casual. But I had so many of
You guys asking I started releasing!
Amazing writing and performing for the song. I don't think most people are aware of how to write great songs. ❤
The audio for this orchestra is recorded on Austrian Audio and Lewitt mics. th-cam.com/video/RX6-lKgRUzQ/w-d-xo.html The mics never disappoint, but I might be biased just because I am the video guy in this context.
That sounds absolutely beautiful. Wow
@@RecordingStudioLoser I will pass that on! Maybe I can get a walkthrough of the setup and put it up here on the TH-cam. We have three or four concerts next week.
I would watch that!!!!
While they have the same ancestry this sounds different than a 414. Almost polar opposite in the midrange.
It kinda depends on the version you reference. The old nylons. The top end is very different.
The xls - actually feels pretty close.
The xlII- way brighter top. More boost around 2-3k ish.
@RecordingStudioLoser yeah kinda but also not. it's also a transformerless mic like the xls and so on but it doesn't get lost as much in a mix. the xls is gone as soon as you add other elements. Also the top end is kinda grainy. It makes them the perfect guitar amp mic or for something that benefits from the midrange like a trombone or kick out but on vocals these suck. Take a 414 over the 818 every day.
FUCK!!!! YOU SING GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha. I’m just out here having fun
@@RecordingStudioLoser that’s what it’s all about. Cheers
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I just buy B-stock and used mics
That goes for all gear. I've saved thousands by not buying brand new
Song is 🔥
Looking forward to the videos of people comparing this to the Warm WA14 🤔
I have nothing against them at all. But I have never used anything Warm made. Not a single item. Not trying to avoid them…
@@RecordingStudioLoser lol I love the degree to which your ellipsis there is a supplication to the algorithmic demigods that you may soon have some Warm Audio gear bestowed upon you. May it be so! 🤞...
No no no. It’s because of something much more ridiculous… I don’t like warms logo… (I know it’s dumb) it’s like Peavey’s logo. I just don’t like it. I love the 5150. But I always thought twice about peavey gear because of it.
Warms logo is the same for me. I know it’s dumb. 🤷
@@RecordingStudioLoser OMGsh, no, I LOVE this reason! lol A.) I generally agree with it (even more so in the case of Peavey 😝), and B.) I sincerely believe that not enough creative people sufficiently take aesthetics into consideration! Been thinking about making a video on that subject for a while myself, honestly. Anyway, others may think it's ridiculous, but I'm happy to join you in this ridiculousness! 😄 Keep up the good work!
I feel seen. 😂😂
I want ro be like you when I grow up
Save up and buy the C414 over this. It will last you a lifetime and give you joy on every session.
I’ve got an old nylon one. A one a couple newer xls and xlII. all very different. None sound bad. To each their own.
That said I see joy coming from different things among different people. Some from gear, some from utilizing tools they can afford given circumstance. That said… Yes this is a different microphone than the c414. But these are the hands that used to make them.
Considering the music you're performing, any mic could do it. Mozart said it way before "as long as she's alive and wears a skirt..."
Try your theory on a solo classical piano in a hall.
I’m a trained operatic tenor, and I record operatic, orchestral, a cappella music quite a bit. Regardless of genre any mic will work in any context given you know its strengths and weaknesses.
I have used and made videos in that style if you care to take a gander.
However I very much disagree that style of music somehow makes mic choice irrelevant.
what a pretentious and frankly ignorant comment, marco 🧐