I have this car, it's pretty dam good. I sometimes look at other cars but this is literally the best car you can buy in it's price range. For another 20k I could upgrade to something else like a Jag F type or M4 but the performance gains would be marginal and not worth the cost. (the 3.0 F type is actually slower than this). I'm thinking a tune would be the cheapest best value option for this car from what I have now.
I have a 2016 M235 6mt and you're correct, you cannot get stiff steering with the soft suspension. That would be perfect. I couldn't tell in the video if you were driving in DSC Off. IMO, that is by far the best driving mode. All nannies are off and it's the ONLY mode that the "electronic" LSD is active. In all other driving modes the differential is open. Yes, the eLSD is not a true LSD but it's decent for street driving. In DSC Off, you're stuck with the Comfort throttle, but I got around that by running a Sprint Booster V3. Now I have the perfect throttle mapping that sits right between Comfort and Sport throttle.
the LSD on my M2 makes a HUGE difference. I borrowed my friend's 135is (envy his hydraulic steering, better than the 2 series). On my M2 you can just throw the car and slide with prediction, the 135 just spins the inner wheel. I love my M2, I think the price difference with our cars is worth it, if you can find one of course. Took me several months to find one. 7 months from deposit to the dealer. I dd a wrx, but I would have to pick one car to do it all, would've gone with the M235i
I think it is funny that so many people likes to point out that this is NOT a M car. IT IS A "M" CAR. BMW named it M235i. It's just a different type of M car. It's a kinda gentler M car. I had an e46 M3 and I told myself that I would never own a M car again, for many reasons, until this came along.
Sorry, Kwan. True M cars have specific engines built for the model. This does not. It does not have M suspension. It does not have the body flares. It is not built at BMW M GmbH. Nope.
It's not an M car but it's still a BMW and still M tuned to some extent. Making fun of a car like this is like saying a $50 steak is trash because there's an $80 option.
Estoril blue is really beautiful...do you ever regret choosing it? I prefer it over all other colors in the configurator but I'm not sure I can pull it off in real life tbh
I have no regrets with Estoril Blue. If I had to do it over I would still choose it again. It's my personal favorite for the chassis. At the same time, it's not loud or obnoxious like say an Orange. Pretty easy to pull off without looking gaudy.
luisbrandolb no, it does not. I've ecu-piggy-backed mine even, and I get a bit more noise, but the stock turbo wastegate is very subtle (it can be heard, but hardly)
Hey, I've been watching your last few vids, and enjoying them. I also recently bought an m235i. That's cool that you bought the exact car you wanted for such a good price, but I think you should kinda not downplay that there's maybe only 10 to 20 cars nationwide selling at that price. Almost all are in the $32-40K range. Of course those will be CPO from bmw, lower mileage, and pretty loaded with options. All that being said, I was also looking at getting the lsd installed, to the point of reading the pdfs and really looking to order it. So, if you did more on lsd upgrade that'd be awesome.
Would it be better to go for an M235i or M240i in the 2018 used market? Prices aren't really that different it seems here in the UK (about £5000 difference from the none facelift 240) but is it worth it?
The B series engine in the M240i is much improved from the N55. If there isn't that much of a price difference i would spring for the M240i. When I was in the market the M240i was significantly more expensive so at that point it wasn't really worth it.
Of course it's good - it's a BMW with a manual transmission! The day that BMW no longer offers manual transmissions will be the day that they're completely dead to me...
I'd take a 981 over this car any day. A 987? It's close. The Porsche definitely has the edge from a pure driver point of view, but I love the turbo character of the N55 in the M235i. The fact that the M235i is still under warranty is really what put it over the edge for me.
That's a tough choice. For me, I prefer the dynamics of the BMW as the rear wheel drive is just more fun. But, if you plan to have it as a daily and you live somewhere where it snows, you might consider the Golf R.
EatSleepDrive lol ironic thing is I'm moving to Florida lol so that makes it make even less sense for me lol I prefer rwd as well and a manual but idk how my commute daily is gonna be and I know German clutches aren't cheap so I'd go with the dsg golf r with dcc
The ZF 8spd auto trans in the 235i is pretty good. It's not a dual clutch though like the Golf R. They both operate different but both are pretty good.
$30k ok value.New $43k.I .was look at one.up grade 19" almost same $$ as new M2.$4k Dinan engine/suspension tuned almost as good M2.I waited another2 yrs buy one cheap.$20k.
love this video man helped me finalize my decision on getting one instead of listening to other people say how its not an M car
Happy to help. It's an awesome car, don't let anyone else tell you any differently. Enjoy!
EatSleepDrive earned yourself a subscriber bro 😎 keep up the work
I have this car, it's pretty dam good. I sometimes look at other cars but this is literally the best car you can buy in it's price range. For another 20k I could upgrade to something else like a Jag F type or M4 but the performance gains would be marginal and not worth the cost. (the 3.0 F type is actually slower than this). I'm thinking a tune would be the cheapest best value option for this car from what I have now.
Bro what air intake is that? The turbo spool sounds beautiful😍
Does it have a bov?
Tony Rojas sounds like a bov
I have a 2021 M235 and i love it.
I have a 2016 M235 6mt and you're correct, you cannot get stiff steering with the soft suspension. That would be perfect. I couldn't tell in the video if you were driving in DSC Off. IMO, that is by far the best driving mode. All nannies are off and it's the ONLY mode that the "electronic" LSD is active. In all other driving modes the differential is open. Yes, the eLSD is not a true LSD but it's decent for street driving. In DSC Off, you're stuck with the Comfort throttle, but I got around that by running a Sprint Booster V3. Now I have the perfect throttle mapping that sits right between Comfort and Sport throttle.
4:29 - Are you sure you don't have a cat under the hood ?
I have the 2015 m235ix. My biggest irritation with this car has got to be the tiny ass fuel tank (just over 10gal). Other than that, I love my car!
Just got this today it's great... Thank you Ashton Kutcher
😂
Chassi, engine, transmission and interior is perfect on the 2 series. Only thing it is missing is the HUD available to the 3 series and above.
the LSD on my M2 makes a HUGE difference. I borrowed my friend's 135is (envy his hydraulic steering, better than the 2 series). On my M2 you can just throw the car and slide with prediction, the 135 just spins the inner wheel. I love my M2, I think the price difference with our cars is worth it, if you can find one of course. Took me several months to find one. 7 months from deposit to the dealer.
I dd a wrx, but I would have to pick one car to do it all, would've gone with the M235i
I think it is funny that so many people likes to point out that this is NOT a M car. IT IS A "M" CAR. BMW named it M235i. It's just a different type of M car. It's a kinda gentler M car. I had an e46 M3 and I told myself that I would never own a M car again, for many reasons, until this came along.
Sorry, Kwan. True M cars have specific engines built for the model. This does not. It does not have M suspension. It does not have the body flares. It is not built at BMW M GmbH. Nope.
It's not an M car but it's still a BMW and still M tuned to some extent. Making fun of a car like this is like saying a $50 steak is trash because there's an $80 option.
@@defyyourlogic487 one of the most logical comments I've read so far about this car, totally agree
Great review man! I just purchased a 228i sport package. Coming from an E92 335i this 2er is well balanced. Puts a smile on me everytime I drive it.
Thanks! Enjoy your 2er!
Jaimexx e9x are everywhere :/
Estoril blue is really beautiful...do you ever regret choosing it? I prefer it over all other colors in the configurator but I'm not sure I can pull it off in real life tbh
I have no regrets with Estoril Blue. If I had to do it over I would still choose it again. It's my personal favorite for the chassis. At the same time, it's not loud or obnoxious like say an Orange. Pretty easy to pull off without looking gaudy.
Dude! Great video! Well done!
That thing sounds awesome
it doesn't sound like that stock right?
luisbrandolb no, it does not. I've ecu-piggy-backed mine even, and I get a bit more noise, but the stock turbo wastegate is very subtle (it can be heard, but hardly)
Dmytro Chygrynskiy speaks perfect American??! Awesome video bro! xD
Are those turbo spools coming from this 235i
Hey man. How did you get your car to sound like that? Turbo sound?
WOW impressive. is the car in this video stock?
my 2016 m235i (same color as yours) is coming thursday, any advice?
i’m about to get mine soon. how’s it been 7 months in?
Enjoy it and don't listen to people. I don't care what you drive someone always has a negative remark. usually out of jealousy
wow great video. Solid AF
Thanks!
What happened to the 3 series?
My dream car!
Hey, I've been watching your last few vids, and enjoying them. I also recently bought an m235i. That's cool that you bought the exact car you wanted for such a good price, but I think you should kinda not downplay that there's maybe only 10 to 20 cars nationwide selling at that price. Almost all are in the $32-40K range. Of course those will be CPO from bmw, lower mileage, and pretty loaded with options. All that being said, I was also looking at getting the lsd installed, to the point of reading the pdfs and really looking to order it. So, if you did more on lsd upgrade that'd be awesome.
How's that fake m car haha you wasted your money.
@@beastmode3537 talk about wasting money, that your boat in the pic?
@@derrickallen2054 your speaking and you have a 350z lmao 🤣 ill run you over
Beast Mode how’s it a fake M car? It’s no more fake than any other BMW with an M package it’s not a full M car otherwise it would be an M2 fry bag
Would it be better to go for an M235i or M240i in the 2018 used market? Prices aren't really that different it seems here in the UK (about £5000 difference from the none facelift 240) but is it worth it?
The B series engine in the M240i is much improved from the N55. If there isn't that much of a price difference i would spring for the M240i. When I was in the market the M240i was significantly more expensive so at that point it wasn't really worth it.
Thank you for taking the time to reply, and thank you for the advice!
Can you please tell me what intake this 235i has and or Blow off plate?
How tall are you? Is the seat maxed out lowering wise?
I'm 6'1 and yes, the seat is as low as it goes.
@@EatSleepDrive Thanks. I'm 6'3, would my head be hitting you think?
@@antbanks7548 I''am 6"2 and fit comfortably in my M235
I killed an R32 in my 2016 m235i. It is vicious and mine is stock.
Great stuff :)
Well said, great review!
Thank you!
What mods do you have to yours? Turbo is loud
aFe intake. Also, i crammed the mic in the airbox so...... haha.
Okay. I was going to say. Mine isn't anywhere near that loud at all! Haha. Awesome stuff. Enjoy
did you get a tune after the intake ?
This car is not stock you can hear the blow off valve whistle
Did you miss 997 Carrera s
Do I get this or an F30 335i?
Do you need people getting in and out of the back seats? That's really the only thing to choose. If not, get the 235.
Of course it's good - it's a BMW with a manual transmission! The day that BMW no longer offers manual transmissions will be the day that they're completely dead to me...
R8, Lambo, Ferrari... All dead? MT's are phasing out entirely, little by little.
The 8 speed automatic is much faster. Why do you think Porsche and Ferrari are Auto's now?
Is that sound stock?
Exhaust is stock but this car does have an aftermarket intake which gives a lot more induction noise.
Would you take this over a cayman s? Would really like to know which takes it for you...
I'd take a 981 over this car any day. A 987? It's close. The Porsche definitely has the edge from a pure driver point of view, but I love the turbo character of the N55 in the M235i. The fact that the M235i is still under warranty is really what put it over the edge for me.
Thanks!
can't choose between this or a golf r
That's a tough choice. For me, I prefer the dynamics of the BMW as the rear wheel drive is just more fun. But, if you plan to have it as a daily and you live somewhere where it snows, you might consider the Golf R.
EatSleepDrive lol ironic thing is I'm moving to Florida lol so that makes it make even less sense for me lol I prefer rwd as well and a manual but idk how my commute daily is gonna be and I know German clutches aren't cheap so I'd go with the dsg golf r with dcc
The ZF 8spd auto trans in the 235i is pretty good. It's not a dual clutch though like the Golf R. They both operate different but both are pretty good.
whatbis this LSD you need to get for this car?
BMW makes one in their performance catalog. That's the one I'd get.
Update it to 400ps or 650 it will be somthing else. Manhart the best!!!
its an m performance
told u guys, Jesus loves BMW.
And you
yo wheres scooby doo
$30k ok value.New $43k.I .was look at one.up grade 19" almost same $$ as new M2.$4k Dinan engine/suspension tuned almost as good M2.I waited another2 yrs buy one cheap.$20k.
Sounds like a fake noise
blah.. pathetic thing won’t ever beat the R26 or 208-GTi
Boring clip.