Citizen Black and White portable TV repair and video input mod

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  • @ricfair9919
    @ricfair9919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    People still want old vintage electronics like this T.V From old to new, another one saved from the landfill! Nice video Dave.

  • @daveturner5305
    @daveturner5305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh man! That takes me back to the 70s when I repurposed an old valve B&W 405 line TV to be the monitor for my homebrew computer. Happy days.

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool indeed! I have an old Panasonic B&W that I picked up at the PX in Fort Bliss Texas back in the early 70's. The best thing about it was the color of the case. It happened to be Olive Drab, matched all the military equipment we took with us out to the desert around Bliss, so it was no problem taking it along in my Radio Teletype Van that was mounted on a 5/4 truck. Since I dealt with classified documents in the rig, it had to be buttoned down most of the time, which was nice since the old unit still had the Air Conditioner mounted on it from back during the Vietnam war where the equipment would fail if it got to hot, thus a nice air conditioner that kept me and my equipment nice and cool even in the worst of the desert heat around Bliss (we used to love the old quote "Ignorance is Bliss") I spent many an hour watching TV on that little set, I even had an extra antenna mounted on the rig that I put up when we got to our base camp area to serve the TV since the van was pretty much radio wave proof on the inside to keep the powerful AM and SSB radios quiet and safe. The rig was built with 2 receivers and one transmitter so we could receive transmissions from both higher headquarters, and still transmit and receive from our sub-units. Since I worked with Regimental Headquarters, I was usually the Net Control Station. I think I still have that little TV around some where, probably in my back room that has become a storage area for my obsolete computers and every thing else that someone thought needed to be out of the way but still kept. Well my good wife, who did that has passed away some 3 months ago now, the pain of her loss after 51 years of wedded bliss still hurts to type about, tears have suddenly appeared on my old cheeks as I type this. She died just 4 days after our 51st wedding anniversary, I buried her with the golden rose I gave her on our 50th in her hands, and a beautiful necklace that proclaimed my ever lasting love around her neck, she wore her wedding dress to the grave, it was her requested garb. Cancer is a cruel disease and it had it's way with her, 4 months after discovery of the disease and she was gone.

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Smashing repair and video mod dave :-D
    I'm supprised that anyone would want to monitor a computer with such a low res device.
    Fuses can blow for no obvious reason, old capacitors current leak at switch on is a possible.
    For a video input i look for the sound trap ceramic filter, and look around it's input for the video+audio split.
    Some old sets have an odd bias to the video and need a mod.

  • @jaceknasalski1422
    @jaceknasalski1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These old analog TVs are only useful if they have an A/V input. So well done!

    • @aarontrupiano9328
      @aarontrupiano9328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      converter box/rf modulator is what i use on these things

    • @jaceknasalski1422
      @jaceknasalski1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aarontrupiano9328 of course you can use a RF modulator, but it's inconvienient and lowers picture quality.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaceknasalski1422 cheap ones yes, proper cable headend such as blonder tongue or wavecom such as I have in my distribution system have saw filtersz and are true vestidual sideband as opposed to am. They look fantastic. Still limit the upper frequency bandwidth due to roll off for sound carrier.

    • @jaceknasalski1422
      @jaceknasalski1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12voltvids using proper gears and cables you can achieve very good picture quality. There is one reason when you really need a separate A/V input: a computer monitor for retro gaming. Limited bandwidth of the RF channel reduces picture quality especially when displaying a high density text.

  • @tonyfremont
    @tonyfremont 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That TV tube warms up a lot faster than most of the sets I grew up with. With modern Li-ion batteries, you might make that fairly portable.

  • @RayRay-uw6ms
    @RayRay-uw6ms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's amazing how knowledgable and skillful you are with electronics! It's such a pleasure to watch you work!

  • @hestheMaster
    @hestheMaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating and good repair job there Dave. Rare to see a little B&W TV with AM/FM radio anywhere even at a thrift store nowadays.When you do see one they want
    quite a bit for them! Dang collectors! Looks like this one had some hours on it but not necessarily watching the TV .

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice work, I had one of these back in the day, mostly used it on my boat.

  • @kirbeast46
    @kirbeast46 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done! I've actually followed along and performed the same modification to my system. Now I just need to figure out where the audio input is!

    • @kirbeast46
      @kirbeast46 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I found a schematic and figured out the audio input!
      At 20:29 the back of IC 101 is shown as he desolders a leg from the board. To add audio input you must desolder another leg- see the top right of the IC 101 outline, desolder the leg one to the left of the far top right corner. Then, tack a wire from the positive leg of C114 (the leg closer to IC 101) to the positive of your audio input jack. You can attach the ground wire from your audio jack to the tuner, just as he did for the video ground.

  • @daytonagreg8765
    @daytonagreg8765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would’ve loved to see the board, and explanation of what & why he is he is testing with his multimeter.
    Im going to try this and eventually figure it out. Ill try to record it and upload something similar from a newbie’s perspective.
    Thanks for doing this.

  • @patrickjmorgan
    @patrickjmorgan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one Dave, I have a similar little set to that in the loft that we used for camping during the early 80's. Havent the heart to throw it, I just need an agile-modulator- a decent one- to breath life back into it.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have some uhf agile mindulators available cheap!

    • @patrickjmorgan
      @patrickjmorgan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12voltvids get me a price inc shipping to U.K. and I might have one off you!

  • @akai.inu_
    @akai.inu_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I did myself one like that with a cheap bw 4" crt like a week ago but trying to find out how the hf to if converter was wired I ended burning it, TV looks just great with component only now lol.

  • @downtowngutter3875
    @downtowngutter3875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's interesting you tap into video pin with a capacitor and cable with ground

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the cable needs a ground and the cap provides isolation (DC block, coupling capacitor)

  • @mounilef
    @mounilef 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice, you can add a swich to move from TV to monitor, so you can use TV any time

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sure but why. There are no analog broadcasts anymore so nothing to receive.

    • @hestheMaster
      @hestheMaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have a digital converter box and an adapter from 75 Ohm to 300 Ohm you can connect it to the TV terminals and watch digital TV on it.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hestheMaster
      Yes i can do that with my little set. I have a 5" color, a 4.5 bw, 2" bw and a 1.5" color CRT in my collection.

  • @daytonagreg8765
    @daytonagreg8765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got something similar and i want to fix it. 👍. Thanks for doing this. Mine is only about 6” square. “Cosmo” Model TVR-601-32. 12v TV Meant for car, office, wherever.

  • @meahall
    @meahall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done. I have a few small portable TVs around that I must repair. Perhaps I'll add a composite input to them as well.
    By the way, I have some bigger 14" CRTs with rf input only. I have heard since there is no proper isolation from mains on their circuit boards, I should not be adding video inputs to these TVs. Am I correct?

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, if the video circuitry is unisolated you shouldn't add a video input without adding isolation.

  • @anthonyvee
    @anthonyvee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello there and thank you for your videos. Very informative. I guess it helps to know what you're doing. (that's not me...)
    Anyhow, watching this, it reminded me of an OLD small solid state Panasonic TV that I bought as a teenager in the middle 70s.
    It sits in the closet since the only antenna or connection that it has, is a rod antenna that now can't catch anything from the air. So I was wondering if there was a way to open it and connect something with an antenna cable that would go to channel convertor box that I have and play whatever I can get from it, just for fun.. That would work on the channel 3 I would think that usually is the default for outside channels. Any thoughts?

    • @akai.inu_
      @akai.inu_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just strap a cable to the rod antenna and to the center copper core the coaxial cable and it should do the trick if it's analog, if don't you need to mod it to accept a video input or buy a video to rf adapter and do the cable to rod thing.

    • @anthonyvee
      @anthonyvee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akai.inu_ thank you for the update.

  • @freddie9116
    @freddie9116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The customer could might install a mono audio input jack as well which should be easier to do.

    • @juniorbcm5375
      @juniorbcm5375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it's possible to replace the external antenna jack with a stereo 3.5mm jack to carry both audio and video signals to the tv, thus mantaining the original look. A circuit rewire is obviously needed in that case.

  • @TypewriterChicago
    @TypewriterChicago 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do you use a capacitor on there? If one wanted to prevent voltage from flowing back, could you just use a diode instead?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Capacitor pass the AC waveform and block dc. That's what they do. Diode pases current in one direction.

    • @TypewriterChicago
      @TypewriterChicago 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12voltvids how important is polarity or voltage in this case?

  • @rustblade5021
    @rustblade5021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah fuses can blow from fatigue especially on devices with high in-rush.

  • @prabhakarratnagiri7265
    @prabhakarratnagiri7265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Astonishing sir.

  • @reacey
    @reacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello sir, I wondered if I could ask for advice, I have a smart TV which has a constant 12v standby, which is only at 8.6v, iv replaced all the capacitors on the 12v circuit on the secondary side of the transformer, iv also changed the octo coupler, could you give me any pointers please? Could it be an oscillation problem? Im desperate to learn, Im not too bothered about the TV, I could just buy a new power board, but I want to learn, and you are one of the most knowledgeable people iv come across online. Thankyou

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the 8.6v vary with different amounts of load? If it stays the same you probably have a problem in the voltage reference circuit.

    • @reacey
      @reacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eDoc2020 when I remove the octo coupler, the voltage starts fluxuating from 8 to 16v, iv replaced it but still have the problem

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reacey Are these measurements with the main board connected or disconnected?

    • @reacey
      @reacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eDoc2020 it's the same with the main board connected or not connected

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@reacey On the secondary there's probably a reference chip like the TL431. I'd check the voltages on it, one of the pins should have 2.5 volts when the proper voltage is reached. If you're getting 2.5v, the power supply thinks it's putting out the proper voltage, so there's probably a bad resistor in the divider network near that chip. If there's an adjustment pot it will be part of that network. If there is a TL431 but none of its pins are at 2.5v there is something else wrong with the supply, probably on the primary side.

  • @paultw4670
    @paultw4670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are truely amazing, from a seasoned hv power system tech.

  • @IOMNIX
    @IOMNIX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello i have problem on Sony Handycam CCD-TR425E When i put in cassete, video playback controls doesnt working i cant play the video or pause it . it only plays pauses or rewinds with remote control. do you know what causes problem or how can i fix it?

    • @crashbandicoot4everr
      @crashbandicoot4everr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably the flex cable that connects the transport buttons to the rest of the unit is broken or has dirty contacts.

  • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
    @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait, how are you getting the channels you were tuning in later in the video? I didn't catch the name of that jazz piano player.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keiko Matsui.

    • @waltschannel7465
      @waltschannel7465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He has a commercial grade modulator that "broadcasts" multiple VHF NTSC channels into his shop. He can then use the TV's own antenna to tune those channels. A lot of video hobbyists use this technique. The brand name for one of the more common modulator units is Blonder Tongue.

  • @giorgostexnikos6976
    @giorgostexnikos6976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing video.thenks

  • @treminaorugx
    @treminaorugx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is the value of the capacitor important? Would lower uF provide less protection?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Has nothing to do with protection just coupling the video into the circuit. The capacitor is just there to block any possible DC.

  • @t0nito
    @t0nito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No audio input?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, because he only wants it as a video display.

  • @aenoymotors
    @aenoymotors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm too afraid to mail my JVC VideoSphere but I'd love to bypass the useless tuner and add an A/V input.

    • @TheStuffMade
      @TheStuffMade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You could try an external RF modulator, then you don't need to modify the TV, they sell for around $10.

    • @aenoymotors
      @aenoymotors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did, still doesn't look too good. I think the tuner itself is a bit wonky with age and they were known to have tuner issues

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheStuffMade
      I have uhf modulators 4 sale.

  • @흑석김용호
    @흑석김용호 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it is oem made in korea?
    Samwha Capacitor ?

    • @bugdrvr
      @bugdrvr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am almost certain I've seen the same sets labeled Goldstar.

  • @evergriven7402
    @evergriven7402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video

  • @NintenloupWolfFR
    @NintenloupWolfFR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had I known that, I would've keep my old B/W GE.

  • @GerardPinzone
    @GerardPinzone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Customer wants to use a portable black and white TV as a computer monitor. How big was his handlebar mustache?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't tell he was wearing a mask.

  • @dprggrmr
    @dprggrmr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't really get the last segment

  • @aarontrupiano9328
    @aarontrupiano9328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't have a scope. can i still do this mod without breaking the tv or the video source?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well a scope certainly makes it easier, but you can look up the IF chip pin out and find the detector output pin.

  • @juanbermudez964
    @juanbermudez964 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you from Alberta?? Is that 660 news?? Lol

  • @DarrellRoper
    @DarrellRoper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't understand why anyone would hook this up to a computer.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use one to display the time. Hangs over my work bench. Time display generated using a raspberry pi.

    • @Sunsetdrivein
      @Sunsetdrivein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could also be used with some security cameras.

  • @horrordvddevil333
    @horrordvddevil333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I send you my vhs camcorder to fix

  • @thecentralscrutinizer5105
    @thecentralscrutinizer5105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The resolution on your camera is tits perfect...new cam????

    • @thecentralscrutinizer5105
      @thecentralscrutinizer5105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So that's how one gets B & W Color bars..... interesting ;)

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's the same one I have been using for years. A Sony FDR-AX33.
      I do have a new AX53 and another old one, an AX100. These are all 4K cameras. I have a couple of tape based HD cameras as well.
      For my next video I will shoot it on the AX53 in 1080p60 mode as this one is so see if I notice any difference. I bought a 53 as a spare as it is no monger made, and has been replaced with the 43, but that one has eliminated the EVF eyepiece for a flip out screen only and as such is useless for me. Next video on ax53, and then back to 33 as that is the one attached to my jib arm.

    • @thecentralscrutinizer5105
      @thecentralscrutinizer5105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@12voltvids Why am I just now noticing the clarity of it now....lol, keep on keeping on then my friend ~Whirled Peas

  • @waltchan
    @waltchan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If it's made in Korea, this one was made by Samsung.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting job.