That is flipping hot ! about 75 °C. That will age the components quickly. a small fan is essential to extend it's lifetime. Thanks for posting the video.
RODALCO2007 Thankyou, I've been waiting for someone on here to convert 160F to Celsius. LOL 👍🏻 If it was my tv, I would be sitting it directly in front of the air conditioner to keep it cool. 🔥❄️
Great video! I ran an A.V. repair shop until 1999 and haven't worked on much tube stuff since I was a kid. Your videos make me yearn for the old days. As far as non polarized capacitors being installed backwards, my first experience was with an old 1940's A.M./S.W. Packard Bell table radio. The radio had what I called "curious oscillations" that just about drove me crazy. I had replaced the filter capacitor and a bypass capacitor, the hum was gone but there were screeching noises at different points of the dial. I wound up reversing the connections to the cap. as it also acted up when my finger got near it. I only ran into this one time that I knew of but in some circuits it does have credence.
Awesome video, interesting old ads in those vintage magazines. The smell of burning electronics is something special especially when you can't find it straight away. Good picture.
Pretty amusing seeing smartphones on a TV from 1958! That signal is probably going through more transistors in the chips and whatnot to get to the TV than even existed in 1958.
The band on the old capacitors will be the outer foil which is hooked to the lower impedance side or ground to reduce noise or interference, the new ones will have an outer foil too, it is just not marked. Mr Carlsons lab has a video to find out which side is the outer foil
Hey Shango, I really enjoy your videos. Keep in mind that many of the vintage consumer items you enjoy repairing had a longer life cycle than the current China made junk we have today. I say that in regard to your comments about the old less reliable US made components being junk. They were not made to last for 100 years. Consumer, not mil-spec! You are fortunate to be able to roll back the years on these old sets because they did last a little longer than most consumer grade "garbage"
The capacitor marking (outside foil) on bipolar/film capacitors is for lowest noise. As in the end with the outside foil goes to the lowest impedance point and provides shielding for the high(er) impedance side foil.
I noticed an American Radionic capacitor in that chassis and I think that was the same brand of HV safety capacitor that liked to blow open in some 1970's Zenith color TV's, causing the HV to skyrocket and blow the neck off the tube.
I really enjoy your video's on vintage TV's I'm learning a lot - I like when you post the vintage video's more i like all your video's a job well done📺📺📻📻 I like the technical Service bulletin it's teaching me a lot
FWIW.. Marbelite is that resin-cement that's used for pool decking. I swapped out a bunch of Good All, Marbelite encased caps from a hoffman a few months ago.. no leakage and on value.. I thought about sending them to you to EOL.. I figured the marbelite would make some great shrapnel.
Thomas, I have----they held up the same as the rest (which is not good). The only paper capacitors I've seen that seem to hold up slightly better are the Solar "Sealdtite" ones with the blue label. I still wouldn't use 'em, though.
I watched the Mr. Carlson's Lab video about outside foil identification. It turned out that with the new capacitors, each one has to be hand-tested because at the factory, they go through the marking equipment in a random orientation.
I believe outside foil polarity can make a difference for shielding reasons in some applications,, originally looked like it was set in a semi enclosed cabinet,, i'd wonder is some of it's troubles were not related to near overheat
I'm sorry that my TV gave you fits, but this video has as much suspense as a Hitchcock movie! And it has a great ending! I was afraid to try doing the recap myself because I thought it would be likely that I would make a mistake with a cap value by a factor of 10 or 100. Plus I had no Idea how the new numbering system worked (Or even existed.) Your videos are very educational! After seeing how easy it is to make that kind of error I would have been in over my head very quickly! I won't be putting the TV back in that wood cabinet (Shown in part one) because of the heat issue so I'll have to find a mid-century tv stand or cart to put it on - any ideas? I'm excited to see the TV working like it did when it was new! These TV's need to be preserved. You are doing a great thing keeping this vintage equipment working. This particular Motorola TV was sold when the entire American TV industry was barely 10 years old!
Mistakes happen, even to the best, It's knowing where to look and having the knowledge to troubleshoot an issue that is important! Repairs don't always go in a straight line, it is very normal for there to be minor issues to be resolved before a repair is completed successfully! TV shows make it seem like every home improvement or car repair goes perfectly every time. This isn't reality. It is good to see that even with "Head scratching moments", If you approach a problem in a systematic way, you can diagnose the issue and have a good outcome.
I use those same red caps on almost everything. Have you noticed lately the .047 value of those type caps have been really brittle? Have you have problems with them coming apart or the legs coming off during installation?
the backwards cap thing refers to the outer foil if that end of the cap is @ GND it will provide some noise shielding / or as a cupping cap outer foil towards the driving tube will cut down on noise
Parabéns amigo, assisti muito filmes e programas em TVs preto e branco, valvuladas e transistorizadas, no final da década de 1970, comprei um Philco a cores! Rio Brasil
Translation: Congratulations friend, I watched a lot of movies and programs on black and white TV's with tubes and transistors in the late 1970s, bought a color Philco ! Rio Brazil
A lot of non-polarized caps have a band marking the outer foil of the cap. My guess is that the band side is tied to the chassis so if the envelope of the cap fell apart or otherwise became conductive, there's no exposed chassis potential on the cap's shell.
Why not parallel two of the capacitors in a tube so that it looks the part and put it back in but it is so weird that the wrong value can cause so many problems, I think AVX CAPACITORS PLC could make the values are after if you asked them.
I wish I had a tester for capacitor leakage because I have an old Philco car radio from the 1940s which is full of old Pyramid IMP capacitors that I'd like to get working. I know that Di-Film types like the IMP don't often go bad but there's still that chance. I wonder why Sprague chose to use a 'circle-2' logo to mark components?
I'm sure I will be adding to others comments re 'polarity' of those caps. The line indicates the start of the winding and outer shield. You would probably never notice in almost any circuit if it was reversed. All wound caps will have an ideal end to connect to earthy side.
Hey shango, do you know how to make a solid state horizontal deflection circuit? I am making a CRT controller board for a trinitron and need to make the horizontal deflection circuit. I am pretty inexperienced in TV/Monitor circuitry but have learned a bit and found understandable circuit diagrams for vertical. Any help is welcome. Thanks
The only capacitors that have stood the test of time are the disc ceramics. I've only come across one bad one in my 50 years in collecting and repairing vintage equipment.
quite a while back I came across 2 tiny disks in a Sharp tv which were intermittent short.. little green ones with a pair of transistors on their own board, small impedance converter circuit on the rf input side of the tuner... very odd those decided to fail.. they packed up after over a year in use.. dumpster tv.. can't remember the model
Neat vids.I haven't seen many of those '50s through '70s sets in better than 35 years.The last '60s colour set I picked up was in the '90s.I,as I mentioned before,quit repairing them by 1990.Have you thought about taking those bumblebee caps and selling them on ebay to the guitar buffs?LOL.
the line on the older condenser marks the outside foil. the outside foil should always be connected to ground. modern condensers do not have the marking for that., there is a way to find the outside foil on a modern condenser using a scope.
lol if you all of the sudden jumped in front of the camera, I would probably hit the floor. if i wasn't already there. But i think i have a good idea of what you look like based on reflections from tvs and glass from your videos. In your last vid with the owner of this set, Thats hilarious people were thinking it was you.. HAHA This was a great video. Recapping aint eazy
northhankspin I wish Shango would show himself more in his videos but yeah I do have a fair idea what he looks like & he doesn't look that bad either. 👍🏻👌🏻 I study his videos closely too & see him in reflections etc as well. 😀
Why the vertical non-linearity at the very top middle of the screen? The top 3" inches in the middle are kind of wavy. Can that be corrected? (Yoke / beam shaping / focusing magnets slid all the way to their stops?)
That 'Outside Foil' thing is just shielding. Nine times out of ten it won't matter. We've all seen TV sets running fine with all the tube shields missing.
The line on the caps is outer foil indication. Orienting outer foils of caps a certain way may be important when low interference is critical or keeping noise low is critical in the front end of audio amps, but I think the obsession over it can become too much.Think about it... So much of this wiring is fully exposed anyway, guys! Look at the leads! Look at all the exposed terminals! Look at all the unshielded wiring in a lot of this stuff. It's just silly to think that orienting caps with outer foils in mind and obsessing over it is doing anything but wasting your time in 99% of applications.
At AMAZON: Manufacturer: Cornell Dubilier Product Category: Film Capacitors RoHS: Product Type: Snubber Dielectric: Polypropylene (PP) Capacitance: 0.1 uF Tolerance: 10 % Voltage Rating: 1 kV Operating Temperature Range: - 55 C to + 105 C Termination Style: Axial Case Diameter: 16 mm Case Length: 34 mm Current Rating: 228 A Dissipation
Hey Shangoman, if the new caps you bought had been sitting on the shelf for say 30 years, would you expect them to still be in new condition? Or could they be failing even though they are unused?
us made was the best. the germans made some good stuff also. other countries not as much. i have no expreience with it but i heard the uk made some good stuff also
It looks great. I just wish there were a way to correct linearity as the picture gets distorted at the borders, and the whole image is tilted rightwards, almost diagonal...
Ok, I've got a question unrelated to the video. How do I stop very loud high voltage whine? Also, for me at least, getting values on capacitors swapped around alot.
Wouldn't it be fine to run it with the back on and no fans I mean it was designed this way and back in the day they where run just like that I'm sure manufactures knew they got hot. I had an old tube color tv ran it for 15 years with everything factory except the tubes most have been changed it was a very high hour set lots of dust all inside of it I did finally blow the picture tube had the tube tested its dead.
Shango: Your comment about the political correctness or incorrectness of Sangamo calling their red-colored capacitors "Redskins" reminded me of a sign on the Illinois Central Railroad back in the 50s: "Confucius say, 'Shoes look neat on feet but not on sear.' " it was, of course, meant as a humorous attempt to encourage people not to put their feet on the train seats but it would never pass in this politically correct age. My, how times have changed!
that's kind of odd! how are you viewing a broadcast?? in california supposedly ALL the analog stations went 100% digital circa 2006 or so - that's when i got rid of my TV
brother im gonna be honest i stare at your shadow in the reflections of tvs when yer just standing there talking. I mean yea if yer working inside a set i can agree theres no point in being on screen, show me what youre working on. but in the Urban exploration type stuff or if you are just talking. then i dont see any harm in it. it puts a face with the name. something people from my generation dont seem to have as much respect for.
i can definitely respect that opinion, plenty of crazy fans invade their favorite youtubers lives. and I can see not wanting that to happen. there are a lot of youtubers these days that dont show their faces so that they can live a private life. you actually are 1 of 2 of my favorite channels to just relax and watch. and the other guy (the oddity acrchive) doesnt really show his face either. oh and on a final note thanks for replying man. I love watching your channel. its great to learn about the technology that existed before me. and I really love that its no nonsense no flashy stuff.
You have a good eye! There is a plastic "guard" in front of the picture tube that has a few very small cracks in the lower right corner that are not very noticeable when the TV is on.
I never thought about how much of a bitch it's gonna be in 40 years to restore these sets we're restoring today... Caps dont show values anymore a 0.022 cap has 223j630 markings on the capacitors! That's gonna be a nightmare in the future.. makes me wanna start writing the values on them with a sharpie
you cannot fault th-cam.com/users/MrCarlsonsLab offering about capacitor polarity or his depth of knowledge. You are two of my favorite youtubers in the whole world. your approaches to restorations are almost polar opposites but i don't think one of you has the upper hand as far as knowledge. i am grateful to you both for sharing for f*****g FREE your expertise about the topic of repairing that which most laugh off as toxic landfill. thank you Shango066 for all your videos. you, too MCL!
I am not faulting anyone, his video and info is great. The frustrating part for me is out of a 35 minute video 80% of the comments focus on a few lines I said like I insulted everyones god or something. I have to be so careful what I say or else tunnel vision sets in and all hell breaks loose
I did not mean to insinuate that you were off base. I was mostly interested in mentioning how valuable both of you are in the TH-cam community. in fact, i watch your videos more than anyone's. apologies, my friend.
Gotta remember that there are best capacitors of their time. Compared to nowadays, we can laugh about it. But they had their days while progress are being made.. Also, I avoid NTE products because they are seriously overpriced. I found other website that carries varieties of electronic parts. I would buy NTE parts IF they are the ONLY place to buy unobtainable parts.
All this demonstrates is that false advertising has always been with us, whether it be created wittingly just to push a product, or unwittingly due to not knowing how the products would hold up over time. In today's world it's not even a consideration with manufacturers to produce and sell products that will hold up over time. The overall products have a short life expectancy, usually never longer than a decade. Lifetime warranties apply to their suggested 'lifetime' of the product, not your lifetime. I see if and where they'll admit what they call lifetime to be 5 - 10 years at most.
Hey Shango Wango z Tango when I see that cross through the circle it reminds me of a killer out your way the Zodiac Killer the1 and only never caught never will be
That is flipping hot ! about 75 °C. That will age the components quickly. a small fan is essential to extend it's lifetime. Thanks for posting the video.
RODALCO2007 Thankyou, I've been waiting for someone on here to convert 160F to Celsius. LOL 👍🏻
If it was my tv, I would be sitting it directly in front of the air conditioner to keep it cool. 🔥❄️
if it was my tv i would go to buy new one on the following day...
LOL
I run my old radios at 110VAC. That old equipment doesn't work well at my house voltage 120 to 122.
Great video! I ran an A.V. repair shop until 1999 and haven't worked on much tube stuff since I was a kid. Your videos make me yearn for the old days. As far as non polarized capacitors being installed backwards, my first experience was with an old 1940's A.M./S.W. Packard Bell table radio. The radio had what I called "curious oscillations" that just about drove me crazy. I had replaced the filter capacitor and a bypass capacitor, the hum was gone but there were screeching noises at different points of the dial. I wound up reversing the connections to the cap. as it also acted up when my finger got near it. I only ran into this one time that I knew of but in some circuits it does have credence.
For those of us who remember the pre-color days and the "color in the living room - everybody else get's B&W" era, that is a fantastic picture!
Yes it is! And after a while of watching B&W you start to see color! :)
Awesome video, interesting old ads in those vintage magazines. The smell of burning electronics is something special especially when you can't find it straight away. Good picture.
CRT and vacuum tube and the old solid state sets were the best sets
picture looked good at the end of the video...good job
Pretty amusing seeing smartphones on a TV from 1958! That signal is probably going through more transistors in the chips and whatnot to get to the TV than even existed in 1958.
The band on the old capacitors will be the outer foil which is hooked to the lower impedance side or ground to reduce noise or interference, the new ones will have an outer foil too, it is just not marked. Mr Carlsons lab has a video to find out which side is the outer foil
Hey Shango, I really enjoy your videos. Keep in mind that many of the vintage consumer items you enjoy repairing had a longer life cycle than the current China made junk we have today. I say that in regard to your comments about the old less reliable US made components being junk. They were not made to last for 100 years. Consumer, not mil-spec! You are fortunate to be able to roll back the years on these old sets because they did last a little longer than most consumer grade "garbage"
yea rhe modern junk they make now it is a miricle that it lasts till the end of the warentee period never mind for 60 years.
A test pattern is better than most TV shows.
The capacitor marking (outside foil) on bipolar/film capacitors is for lowest noise. As in the end with the outside foil goes to the lowest impedance point and provides shielding for the high(er) impedance side foil.
I am glad you showed your mistakes and corrections. Good video!
Keep the repair videos coming Shango. You're the best thing that's happened to U-Tube. Thanks for all the great videos buddy.
Brings back memories: Bonanza, High Chaparral... Those were the day. God knows how much I miss my mother, she was young in the sixties.
I noticed an American Radionic capacitor in that chassis and I think that was the same brand of HV safety capacitor that liked to blow open in some 1970's Zenith color TV's, causing the HV to skyrocket and blow the neck off the tube.
I really enjoy your video's on vintage TV's I'm learning a lot - I like when you post the vintage video's more i like all your video's a job well done📺📺📻📻 I like the technical Service bulletin it's teaching me a lot
The PC crowd would burn that magazine, lol.
Great video!! I like those old TV's and radios.
Working well. I like the look of this
Set . Nice steel cabinet.
I inherited a large bag of sprague "quickettes', and I often use those gizmos to replace wire lead parts instead of jhooking.
FWIW.. Marbelite is that resin-cement that's used for pool decking. I swapped out a bunch of Good All, Marbelite encased caps from a hoffman a few months ago.. no leakage and on value.. I thought about sending them to you to EOL.. I figured the marbelite would make some great shrapnel.
Please don't get a strike by playing all of those crappy TV shows and commercials. They are why I don't watch TV....
Love your videos, going to make some of my own soon! been watching your videos for awhile, very informative! Helped me with some of my repairs!
I dunno I think a component lasting 50 years makes it a success.
Those Sangamo Redskins were a heap'um good value!
i wonder how the stood up over the years. would be interesting to test some and find out.
Thomas, I have----they held up the same as the rest (which is not good). The only paper capacitors I've seen that seem to hold up slightly better are the Solar "Sealdtite" ones with the blue label. I still wouldn't use 'em, though.
Scalps the rest.
That came out really nice. I'm surprised that the capacitors tested good yet had problems once warmed up, I've never seen that.
Nice work, dude! I'd like to know why it still has that little squiggle at the top of the screen, though?
mr carlsons lab did a video about cap polarity, he's hardly after the "hits" though.
I watched the Mr. Carlson's Lab video about outside foil identification. It turned out that with the new capacitors, each one has to be hand-tested because at the factory, they go through the marking equipment in a random orientation.
Wicked vid just watched it again after years
I believe outside foil polarity can make a difference for shielding reasons in some applications,, originally looked like it was set in a semi enclosed cabinet,, i'd wonder is some of it's troubles were not related to near overheat
I'm sorry that my TV gave you fits, but this video has as much suspense as a Hitchcock movie! And it has a great ending! I was afraid to try doing the recap myself because I thought it would be likely that I would make a mistake with a cap value by a factor of 10 or 100. Plus I had no Idea how the new numbering system worked (Or even existed.) Your videos are very educational! After seeing how easy it is to make that kind of error I would have been in over my head very quickly! I won't be putting the TV back in that wood cabinet (Shown in part one) because of the heat issue so I'll have to find a mid-century tv stand or cart to put it on - any ideas?
I'm excited to see the TV working like it did when it was new! These TV's need to be preserved. You are doing a great thing keeping this vintage equipment working. This particular Motorola TV was sold when the entire American TV industry was barely 10 years old!
Real world repair, things often dont go as planned and its good to show that.
Mistakes happen, even to the best, It's knowing where to look and having the knowledge to troubleshoot an issue that is important! Repairs don't always go in a straight line, it is very normal for there to be minor issues to be resolved before a repair is completed successfully! TV shows make it seem like every home improvement or car repair goes perfectly every time. This isn't reality. It is good to see that even with "Head scratching moments", If you approach a problem in a systematic way, you can diagnose the issue and have a good outcome.
I use those same red caps on almost everything. Have you noticed lately the .047 value of those type caps have been really brittle? Have you have problems with them coming apart or the legs coming off during installation?
No problems yet
This problem has only just started with me. I've noticed it in the last batch I bought from Antique Electronic Supply. Hoping it's not a trend.
Get them off Mouser.
I don't have a wholesale account with Mouser. Do they do wholesale accounts?
Don't need them, if you buy massive lots of parts they discount them automatically, check it out man.
the backwards cap thing refers to the outer foil if that end of the cap is @ GND it will provide some noise shielding / or as a cupping cap outer foil towards the driving tube will cut down on noise
Outstanding video, we love ya shango! even the wife has started watching you now and she knows nothing about electronics.
did you see the mine video with the your song in it? its on the mine channel
no mate ill have a look ace!
Parabéns amigo, assisti muito filmes e programas em TVs preto e branco, valvuladas e transistorizadas, no final da década de 1970, comprei um Philco a cores! Rio Brasil
Translation: Congratulations friend, I watched a lot of movies and programs on black and white TV's with tubes and transistors in the late 1970s, bought a color Philco ! Rio Brazil
The Shangs...good stuff as always.
A lot of non-polarized caps have a band marking the outer foil of the cap. My guess is that the band side is tied to the chassis so if the envelope of the cap fell apart or otherwise became conductive, there's no exposed chassis potential on the cap's shell.
Why not parallel two of the capacitors in a tube so that it looks the part and put it back in but it is so weird that the wrong value can cause so many problems, I think AVX CAPACITORS PLC could make the values are after if you asked them.
You should do a tour of your home tvs.
If you watch a video on Carlson's Lab channel, there is indeed an outside foil even though they aren't marked.
I wish I had a tester for capacitor leakage because I have an old Philco car radio from the 1940s which is full of old Pyramid IMP capacitors that I'd like to get working. I know that Di-Film types like the IMP don't often go bad but there's still that chance.
I wonder why Sprague chose to use a 'circle-2' logo to mark components?
I'm sure I will be adding to others comments re 'polarity' of those caps. The line indicates the start of the winding and outer shield. You would probably never notice in almost any circuit if it was reversed. All wound caps will have an ideal end to connect to earthy side.
Hey shango, do you know how to make a solid state horizontal deflection circuit?
I am making a CRT controller board for a trinitron and need to make the horizontal deflection circuit. I am pretty inexperienced in TV/Monitor circuitry but have learned a bit and found understandable circuit diagrams for vertical. Any help is welcome. Thanks
The only capacitors that have stood the test of time are the disc ceramics. I've only come across one bad one in my 50 years in collecting and repairing vintage equipment.
quite a while back I came across 2 tiny disks in a Sharp tv which were intermittent short.. little green ones with a pair of transistors on their own board, small impedance converter circuit on the rf input side of the tuner... very odd those decided to fail.. they packed up after over a year in use.. dumpster tv.. can't remember the model
German Styroflex caps
yes if you want to buy non american made german is the best.
never seen a bad styro cap on my many 50's german radios ...also mullard mustard caps seem to last forever
That Black Beauty ad said "talk about reliability!" Ha ha, I guess they meant you could count on them going bad?
Neat vids.I haven't seen many of those '50s through '70s sets in better than 35 years.The last '60s colour set I picked up was in the '90s.I,as I mentioned before,quit repairing them by 1990.Have you thought about taking those bumblebee caps and selling them on ebay to the guitar buffs?LOL.
the line on the older condenser marks the outside foil. the outside foil should always be connected to ground. modern condensers do not have the marking for that., there is a way to find the outside foil on a modern condenser using a scope.
great job again but what was with the face shield lol keep up the good work Scott 73
The caps with the line just indicate the connector on the shielding side, and your right their not polarized
lol if you all of the sudden jumped in front of the camera, I would probably hit the floor. if i wasn't already there. But i think i have a good idea of what you look like based on reflections from tvs and glass from your videos. In your last vid with the owner of this set, Thats hilarious people were thinking it was you.. HAHA This was a great video. Recapping aint eazy
northhankspin I wish Shango would show himself more in his videos but yeah I do have a fair idea what he looks like & he doesn't look that bad either. 👍🏻👌🏻 I study his videos closely too & see him in reflections etc as well. 😀
Why the vertical non-linearity at the very top middle of the screen? The top 3" inches in the middle are kind of wavy. Can that be corrected? (Yoke / beam shaping / focusing magnets slid all the way to their stops?)
Beautiful!
Is there really a market restoring these old Tv's? I enjoy what Phontonicinduction does with the Tv's he gets his hands on lol
The bumblebees were junk new. I was changing them in the late 60's and most were leaky.
An IR camera might help find overheating stuff.
Matsushita and nicicon are great caps I must say
That 'Outside Foil' thing is just shielding. Nine times out of ten it won't matter. We've all seen TV sets running fine with all the tube shields missing.
The line on the caps is outer foil indication. Orienting outer foils of caps a certain way may be important when low interference is critical or keeping noise low is critical in the front end of audio amps, but I think the obsession over it can become too much.Think about it... So much of this wiring is fully exposed anyway, guys! Look at the leads! Look at all the exposed terminals! Look at all the unshielded wiring in a lot of this stuff. It's just silly to think that orienting caps with outer foils in mind and obsessing over it is doing anything but wasting your time in 99% of applications.
The new caps are so much smaller, less surface area to pick up or radiate noise
WAY less. As in probably 75% less in most cases.
I was wondering if you have a Skype I'm trying to fix my 1951 Motorola TV I really need some help
I LIKE WATCHING , DONT REALLY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR DOING .. INTERESTING TO ME.
At AMAZON: Manufacturer: Cornell Dubilier Product Category: Film
Capacitors RoHS: Product Type: Snubber Dielectric: Polypropylene (PP)
Capacitance: 0.1 uF Tolerance: 10 % Voltage Rating: 1 kV Operating
Temperature Range: - 55 C to + 105 C Termination Style: Axial Case
Diameter: 16 mm Case Length: 34 mm Current Rating: 228 A Dissipation
Ever figure out why there is still a deflection issue at the top of the screen?
Nice, but I'm thinking the yoke should be turned about 7° CCW.
Would the cabinet of one of these get that hot when they were new?
How long did it take you from start to finish replacing all the caps?
Hey Shangoman, if the new caps you bought had been sitting on the shelf for say 30 years, would you expect them to still be in new condition? Or could they be failing even though they are unused?
they may be failing even though they are unused ( test them before use )
Depends on the quality and type. What type of caps do you have?
I test all brands I have seen duds in them all so to be shore I test all of them including the ones I just bought
better quality components will last longer. everything will fail eventually.
us made was the best. the germans made some good stuff also. other countries not as much. i have no expreience with it but i heard the uk made some good stuff also
0:16 "picking up at local electronics store"... did these even exist in 2016? :)
Great fix
It looks great. I just wish there were a way to correct linearity as the picture gets distorted at the borders, and the whole image is tilted rightwards, almost diagonal...
the 2016 debates were fun times
What causes that distortion at the top of the screen?
degausser malfunction or aging. I dunno. Maybe that thing doesn't have a degausser
What is shango?
Ok, I've got a question unrelated to the video. How do I stop very loud high voltage whine? Also, for me at least, getting values on capacitors swapped around alot.
Wouldn't it be fine to run it with the back on and no fans I mean it was designed this way and back in the day they where run just like that I'm sure manufactures knew they got hot. I had an old tube color tv ran it for 15 years with everything factory except the tubes most have been changed it was a very high hour set lots of dust all inside of it I did finally blow the picture tube had the tube tested its dead.
what can I use to replace a 47000uf 10% 600vdc bumble bee capacitor?
Tiny Goliath doubtful
Wonder how well today's capacitors will last?
nice set
Shango: Your comment about the political correctness or incorrectness of Sangamo calling their red-colored capacitors "Redskins" reminded me of a sign on the Illinois Central Railroad back in the 50s: "Confucius say, 'Shoes look neat on feet but not on sear.' " it was, of course, meant as a humorous attempt to encourage people not to put their feet on the train seats but it would never pass in this politically correct age. My, how times have changed!
Yikes! In the Sprague ad it says something about being used in modern missiles. My country being guarded by these caps. Yikes!
They recap missiles on every tritium booster refill during the physics package service periods.
Sprague made a lot of mil-spec capacitors. These were consumer grade made for household throw away appliances.
KKKKAAAABBBBOOOOMMMM
that's kind of odd! how are you viewing a broadcast?? in california supposedly ALL the analog stations went 100% digital circa 2006 or so - that's when i got rid of my TV
Try using a drill to hollow out the caps.
brother im gonna be honest i stare at your shadow in the reflections of tvs when yer just standing there talking. I mean yea if yer working inside a set i can agree theres no point in being on screen, show me what youre working on. but in the Urban exploration type stuff or if you are just talking. then i dont see any harm in it. it puts a face with the name. something people from my generation dont seem to have as much respect for.
I kill the channel before I go on camera. Not my thing, plenty of video bloggers to watch
i can definitely respect that opinion, plenty of crazy fans invade their favorite youtubers lives. and I can see not wanting that to happen. there are a lot of youtubers these days that dont show their faces so that they can live a private life. you actually are 1 of 2 of my favorite channels to just relax and watch. and the other guy (the oddity acrchive) doesnt really show his face either. oh and on a final note thanks for replying man. I love watching your channel. its great to learn about the technology that existed before me. and I really love that its no nonsense no flashy stuff.
amazed you didn't get copy strike.
Wow, I don't know what 160F is in Celsius but it sounds pretty hot! Is that normal for a tv like that to get that hot? ✋🏻🔥
160° F,
Subtract 32 to get 128°F above freezing,
Multiply 128 by .555... to get 71.11°C
Nice
I wonder what happened to the bottom corner, looked like the screen was cracked.
You have a good eye! There is a plastic "guard" in front of the picture tube that has a few very small cracks in the lower right corner that are not very noticeable when the TV is on.
Cheers man, I was watching on a 42" TV so was pretty noticeable to me, I do love these videos mind
I never thought about how much of a bitch it's gonna be in 40 years to restore these sets we're restoring today... Caps dont show values anymore a 0.022 cap has 223j630 markings on the capacitors! That's gonna be a nightmare in the future.. makes me wanna start writing the values on them with a sharpie
All junk wait till my beryllium tungsten blackface caps come out on the markets they will outlast them all.
marriott hotels,play dirty laundry here heh heh
thermal cam
yes i need to get one
Could you imagine that set running at 160 degrees infused with nicotine tar and dust?
Lookit! them people are in side the glass bubble O_O
More like, how will Sonicap, Auricap and Mundorf perform 50 years from now.
21:30 what is title of this song, i think that is in GTA 4
Til Tuesday voices carry
Sharzenarzleblarvle... Good job!
you cannot fault th-cam.com/users/MrCarlsonsLab offering about capacitor polarity or his depth of knowledge. You are two of my favorite youtubers in the whole world. your approaches to restorations are almost polar opposites but i don't think one of you has the upper hand as far as knowledge. i am grateful to you both for sharing for f*****g FREE your expertise about the topic of repairing that which most laugh off as toxic landfill. thank you Shango066 for all your videos. you, too MCL!
I am not faulting anyone, his video and info is great. The frustrating part for me is out of a 35 minute video 80% of the comments focus on a few lines I said like I insulted everyones god or something. I have to be so careful what I say or else tunnel vision sets in and all hell breaks loose
I did not mean to insinuate that you were off base. I was mostly interested in mentioning how valuable both of you are in the TH-cam community. in fact, i watch your videos more than anyone's. apologies, my friend.
Got an ion burn
Gotta remember that there are best capacitors of their time. Compared to nowadays, we can laugh about it. But they had their days while progress are being made..
Also, I avoid NTE products because they are seriously overpriced. I found other website that carries varieties of electronic parts. I would buy NTE parts IF they are the ONLY place to buy unobtainable parts.
All this demonstrates is that false advertising has always been with us, whether it be created wittingly just to push a product, or unwittingly due to not knowing how the products would hold up over time. In today's world it's not even a consideration with manufacturers to produce and sell products that will hold up over time. The overall products have a short life expectancy, usually never longer than a decade. Lifetime warranties apply to their suggested 'lifetime' of the product, not your lifetime. I see if and where they'll admit what they call lifetime to be 5 - 10 years at most.
Amy Schumer? Jokes? There's definitely something wrong with this CRT.
Hey Shango Wango z Tango when I see that cross through the circle it reminds me of a killer out your way the Zodiac Killer the1 and only never caught never will be
Compton
P.S. isn't it great to pay to watch commercials?
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