the Flipsky 75100 Alu PCB's and new Pro's also have 3 electrolytics and 3 ceramics in the same sort of setup just like the Spintend, seem to also have 3 NTC's the new Flipsky (75100 and 75200) Pro V2 series are also directly compatible with unmodified vesc firmware which probably means 3 sensors aswell the X9000, Torp, Flipsky, Makerbase and KO use Huayi HYG015N10NS1TA fets i know Spintend used JieJie JMSH1001 fets in some other Ubox's but i don't know what they use in the 150
I think Spintend uses Jie Jie in everything. I did later confirm that the 85-150 uses the SH1001 from Jie Jie. 85-250 does as well...just double the amount.
@@laptech3767 depends on the price, i would take the Makerbase 84_200HP instead of the Flipsky 75200 Pro v2 though, which are really cheap but they have actual phase sensors and filters so they're more effective than simple low side sensing i can definitely feel a torque difference between my 75200's and 84200HP's at the same phase current besides Flipsky still doesn't make proper configurations for their own VESC based products, while Makerbase actually made a config for that so you have the correct firmware for your product out of the box and have an easy update experience Spintend also makes proper configs for them But they cost like twice the amount of money some people said the on/off switch doesnt work properly on the Makerbase but that just depends on a VESC firmware setting which i figured out running 2 of them, easy to fix that is due to the fact it's a software based on/off like Spintend has, while Flipsky switches the full input voltage inline of the main stepdown converter this has the benefit it keeps track of stats like mileage etc. it also has the benefit of having proper silent hfi support in such a "high" voltage VESC based controller at this price point which means that you won't even need hall sensors at all but that may require some manual tuning
btw makerbase is going HARD now, they made a controller thats basically a 75200 but redesigned with real phase filters, INA241 amps, phase shunts, inbuilt bluetooth and imu, remote on/off etc.. all the good stuff with the HYG fets, and for like €125 off ali with 21% VAT it's called the 84200HP it doesn't have the creme de la creme current path but no doubt best "VESC" alternative for the price
I've been looking at the Pro series from Flipsky. Makerbase and Flipsky are one and the same. Looking at the Pro series they are effectively the same build as a Spintend in every way...including current sense amps and a very few ceramic caps. Well except the mosfet used. It's hilarious that Flipsky calls following the minimum specs for VESC their "pro" product line!
@@de-bodgery yea, atleast the Makerbase 84200HP is different tho, the older 75 series was the exact same as the Flipskys and the 84200HP is an actual different development, by no means perfect but hey Makerbase has it for way less money and actual high side phase sensing lol
@@BH4x0r High side phase current sensing? What's that? Shunts are on the low side to deal with certain facts of voltage spikes that you don't have to deal with as low side shunts. Current sense loops are 100% disconnected from the phases and are neither high or low side. I guess I'd like to see one of these Makerbase 84200 controllers. So far, everything I've ever seen from them is sold as is by Flipsky...aka one and the same company for all intents and purposes!
@@de-bodgery i mean actual phase shunts i.e. after the fets before going into the motor wires like in Benjamins 75V controllers, they're using the new INA241A's which is the 120V version of the INA240s that were/are used on the actual Vesc 75 series (by Vedder) my apologies for not explaining stuff properly sometimes, English is not my first language
thanks for the upload. been waiting for your videos
keep going man🎉
the Flipsky 75100 Alu PCB's and new Pro's also have 3 electrolytics and 3 ceramics in the same sort of setup just like the Spintend, seem to also have 3 NTC's
the new Flipsky (75100 and 75200) Pro V2 series are also directly compatible with unmodified vesc firmware which probably means 3 sensors aswell
the X9000, Torp, Flipsky, Makerbase and KO use Huayi HYG015N10NS1TA fets
i know Spintend used JieJie JMSH1001 fets in some other Ubox's but i don't know what they use in the 150
I think Spintend uses Jie Jie in everything. I did later confirm that the 85-150 uses the SH1001 from Jie Jie. 85-250 does as well...just double the amount.
Is this spintend better than 7200 V2 pro ?
@@laptech3767 depends on the price, i would take the Makerbase 84_200HP instead of the Flipsky 75200 Pro v2 though, which are really cheap but they have actual phase sensors and filters so they're more effective than simple low side sensing
i can definitely feel a torque difference between my 75200's and 84200HP's at the same phase current besides Flipsky still doesn't make proper configurations for their own VESC based products, while Makerbase actually made a config for that so you have the correct firmware for your product out of the box and have an easy update experience
Spintend also makes proper configs for them But they cost like twice the amount of money
some people said the on/off switch doesnt work properly on the Makerbase but that just depends on a VESC firmware setting which i figured out running 2 of them, easy to fix
that is due to the fact it's a software based on/off like Spintend has, while Flipsky switches the full input voltage inline of the main stepdown converter
this has the benefit it keeps track of stats like mileage etc.
it also has the benefit of having proper silent hfi support in such a "high" voltage VESC based controller at this price point which means that you won't even need hall sensors at all but that may require some manual tuning
Great content as usual, well done mate! :)
couldn't have done it without you!
Hey man what happened to your home setup? Missing the videos still love the content
See my last video.
@@de-bodgery oh shit sorry to hear the bad news
btw makerbase is going HARD now, they made a controller thats basically a 75200 but redesigned with real phase filters, INA241 amps, phase shunts, inbuilt bluetooth and imu, remote on/off etc.. all the good stuff
with the HYG fets, and for like €125 off ali with 21% VAT
it's called the 84200HP
it doesn't have the creme de la creme current path but no doubt best "VESC" alternative for the price
I've been looking at the Pro series from Flipsky. Makerbase and Flipsky are one and the same. Looking at the Pro series they are effectively the same build as a Spintend in every way...including current sense amps and a very few ceramic caps. Well except the mosfet used. It's hilarious that Flipsky calls following the minimum specs for VESC their "pro" product line!
@@de-bodgery yea, atleast the Makerbase 84200HP is different tho, the older 75 series was the exact same as the Flipskys and the 84200HP is an actual different development, by no means perfect but hey Makerbase has it for way less money and actual high side phase sensing lol
@@BH4x0r High side phase current sensing? What's that? Shunts are on the low side to deal with certain facts of voltage spikes that you don't have to deal with as low side shunts. Current sense loops are 100% disconnected from the phases and are neither high or low side. I guess I'd like to see one of these Makerbase 84200 controllers. So far, everything I've ever seen from them is sold as is by Flipsky...aka one and the same company for all intents and purposes!
@@BH4x0r I'd like to see this controller.
@@de-bodgery i mean actual phase shunts i.e. after the fets before going into the motor wires like in Benjamins 75V controllers, they're using the new INA241A's which is the 120V version of the INA240s that were/are used on the actual Vesc 75 series (by Vedder)
my apologies for not explaining stuff properly sometimes, English is not my first language
how much phase amps does it make ?
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