I worked as a powdercoater off and on for a couple years. I wish I got to see this video around this time last year actually. But it's a very informative video, and I have tried all of those faraday tricks myself. After coating the rest of the part properly and then using those tricks, it almost always work. Powdercoating can get very complicated. Thanks for the video. Subscribed. 👍
I watched this video last night. I've been coating for two or three weeks. Shot maybe 20 pieces. Every single corner whooped me and I was scared to take all kinds of work, even for friends. Came to the shop today and turned up my air, kv, and switched to a fan tip on my kk 3.0 dpw. WORKED LIKE A CHARM. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
I hardly ever have my air over 3.0. Seems to help the powder "float" in rather than "blow" in. The wrap technique/indirect that you're doing is what I do too. Good video!
Try hitting the corners first with a low setting on air and powder but turn the voltage down also. The flux that builds on top of the weld beads doesn't conduct electricity so I have a end cone wire brush on a drill with an extension that's about 1 foot long and I hit those beads really quick. It takes off the flux and the burnt area that the etching spray leaves behind. We also have a powder coat unit that has a corner setting and a pulse setting that reverses the polarity quickly and sometimes fixes the issue. We run a fabrication and powder coat shop so I see and control all aspects of the process.
@@RightNowPowderCoating It's actually some off brand Chinese one but it's like a knock off of the Nordson guns . It was $600 on Ebay with a 2 lb clear hooper or you can draw from a 50lb box. The main unit also has a box vibration button if you got that option. My only complaint is the conveying and dosing valves are not very sensitive and are manual knobs with gauges.
@@buildthings79 Would you happen to have a link for that powder gun? I just looked at the Nordson web site and they don't list prices and look stupid expensive. Something around the $500 to $1500 range would be great for what I do.
im having these types of issues on brake calipers and most of the time on the second coat.. The real problem is that let´s say im doing lollypop red and can´t get it sticking on the corners, ill have to shoot a ton of powder onto the part and it will ruin the color of the part. it will go from a bright red to an dark red because of the extra spraying for the corners.. Any pro tips on this one? Regards from cold Finland, love the vids!
Informative video as always! What are your thoughts on moving the ground around to different parts of the cart or hooks? Have you heard of this or tried it before?
Hey Dan, is hot flicking the faraday areas and corners an option to help fight the problem areas first, then powder the rest normal? I know it is extra steps and you have quite the operation going. Lean six sigma takes effect and time is money. Thoughts?
Turn your air down.. You're blowing the powder out before it can settle in these areas. Another option is to turn your powder down and put your gun in close to deal with these problem areas first and then powder the rest as usual. Looks like you guys get good results but could be done much easier and faster. And as we all know time is money
@@RightNowPowderCoating I use a wagner sprint gun and for powdering things like this in 9005 satin my typical set up would be something like 80% kv with my air on 3.75 and my powder at around 45.you said you're having problems turning your air down and I noticed you get quite a few surges of powder perhaps you have air flow problems such as your compressor.it Could even be the energizer settings (the rod that you drop into the box of powder) if you hold your hand like this 🖐️ imagine that's the spread of your powder... The thumb and little finger areas are the parts that will take best to problem areas. Never powder with the centre of your spread you want to either be powdering in front of or behind the central position. Hope that makes sense 😂
@@RightNowPowderCoating this is why i got rid of my gemas.... everyone thinks they are the best because they advertised in the right places. I prefer a Nordson... high densitity.. low volume. If we could powder coat without air pressure that would be ideal, but we need air pressure to pick it up and move it. the trick is using the least amount possible and I think Nordson has this down the best after trying them all. 20yrs experience
Hey Dan, thanks for all the great content. On a job like this do you see a big difference between the Gema and KCI or is it just different settings and technique, but overall same issues. Iv'e been using a KCI for 5 years and have had great results and zero problems with the unit itself. I want to replace it as it has a bazillion hrs on it and I was thinking of upgrading to a Gema but just not sure if its worth the extra money. What are your thoughts between the two. Thanks for your time.
@@RightNowPowderCoating I bought a 3M .. I’m just getting started so really haven’t spent a lot of time in and around the powder, i just built an oven and finishing a spray booth then I’ll start shooting powder …and checking the mirror haha I have really enjoyed and got a ton of information from your channel. I figured once I start shooting and f’n stuff up I’ll get on the peloton thing so I can hit you up about stuff.
@@RightNowPowderCoating are you still doing the patron thing, I went ahead and signed up. I’m not techie but it doesn’t look like anything current or I’m in the wrong place
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What are your thoughts on wet blasting before powder coating
What are your thought on wet blasting before powder coating
I worked as a powdercoater off and on for a couple years. I wish I got to see this video around this time last year actually. But it's a very informative video, and I have tried all of those faraday tricks myself. After coating the rest of the part properly and then using those tricks, it almost always work. Powdercoating can get very complicated. Thanks for the video. Subscribed. 👍
Thanks, appreciate it!
Thanks for every bit of help and support!
Perfect. I fight this problem but mostly I use the hot coat to overcome it. Less is more and you showed it. Thank You
Glad to help
I watched this video last night. I've been coating for two or three weeks. Shot maybe 20 pieces. Every single corner whooped me and I was scared to take all kinds of work, even for friends. Came to the shop today and turned up my air, kv, and switched to a fan tip on my kk 3.0 dpw. WORKED LIKE A CHARM. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
Even tho the cloud does seem big, that misty fluffy flow is on point... Well said!!! Thanks again for a nice tip and trick.
Doc, Upland California
I hardly ever have my air over 3.0. Seems to help the powder "float" in rather than "blow" in. The wrap technique/indirect that you're doing is what I do too. Good video!
really depends on the powder, and how fast you want to move... but yes I find under 3.0 its much better and less wasteful. thanks for watching.
Try hitting the corners first with a low setting on air and powder but turn the voltage down also. The flux that builds on top of the weld beads doesn't conduct electricity so I have a end cone wire brush on a drill with an extension that's about 1 foot long and I hit those beads really quick. It takes off the flux and the burnt area that the etching spray leaves behind. We also have a powder coat unit that has a corner setting and a pulse setting that reverses the polarity quickly and sometimes fixes the issue.
We run a fabrication and powder coat shop so I see and control all aspects of the process.
Nice, what gun do you guys use?
@@RightNowPowderCoating It's actually some off brand Chinese one but it's like a knock off of the Nordson guns . It was $600 on Ebay with a 2 lb clear hooper or you can draw from a 50lb box. The main unit also has a box vibration button if you got that option. My only complaint is the conveying and dosing valves are not very sensitive and are manual knobs with gauges.
@@buildthings79 Would you happen to have a link for that powder gun? I just looked at the Nordson web site and they don't list prices and look stupid expensive. Something around the $500 to $1500 range would be great for what I do.
Great work, I need all the help I can get!😎💪🙏💪😎
Great video. Thanks for the Faraday tips ! Keep them coming.
You bet!
Great video and advice Dan .keep up the good work
Great video Dan.Hey did you get the new compressor and media blaster going yet.Cool to see a video on the new equipment.
not yet, we may be going a new direction....
Awesome tip bro!…I just started powdercoating and watching all your videos!👍🏼…Aloha🤙🏽
im having these types of issues on brake calipers and most of the time on the second coat..
The real problem is that let´s say im doing lollypop red and can´t get it sticking on the corners, ill have to shoot a ton of powder onto the part and it will ruin the color of the part. it will go from a bright red to an dark red because of the extra spraying for the corners.. Any pro tips on this one? Regards from cold Finland, love the vids!
Informative video as always! What are your thoughts on moving the ground around to different parts of the cart or hooks? Have you heard of this or tried it before?
you can, but I find if a part wont take it, I just touch it, then it will, then remove hand and coat missed part.
Excellent video man
Great explanation and expert technique.
Glad you liked it!
Good topic and tricks to the trade . Can you do a video on orange peel and gun settings to avoid it?
Do you still notice bad faraday with the bigger guns like Gema sames electron ?
Hey Dan, is hot flicking the faraday areas and corners an option to help fight the problem areas first, then powder the rest normal? I know it is extra steps and you have quite the operation going. Lean six sigma takes effect and time is money. Thoughts?
Thanks, Dan, Great vid as usual......
My pleasure!
I noticed that if u just tap the trigger it’ll work sometimes. For me it’s either tap or hot flock 😂
yes, thats my on off notes....pump it and the charge is droped.
Try heating them up to around 150*-175* F. And shot them warm. You will be surprised.
Turn your air down.. You're blowing the powder out before it can settle in these areas. Another option is to turn your powder down and put your gun in close to deal with these problem areas first and then powder the rest as usual. Looks like you guys get good results but could be done much easier and faster. And as we all know time is money
Seems if we go too low it wont pick up or move powder at all.....not sure if you have any tips on that but if so let me know.
@@RightNowPowderCoating I use a wagner sprint gun and for powdering things like this in 9005 satin my typical set up would be something like 80% kv with my air on 3.75 and my powder at around 45.you said you're having problems turning your air down and I noticed you get quite a few surges of powder perhaps you have air flow problems such as your compressor.it Could even be the energizer settings (the rod that you drop into the box of powder) if you hold your hand like this 🖐️ imagine that's the spread of your powder... The thumb and little finger areas are the parts that will take best to problem areas. Never powder with the centre of your spread you want to either be powdering in front of or behind the central position. Hope that makes sense 😂
@@RightNowPowderCoating this is why i got rid of my gemas.... everyone thinks they are the best because they advertised in the right places. I prefer a Nordson... high densitity.. low volume. If we could powder coat without air pressure that would be ideal, but we need air pressure to pick it up and move it. the trick is using the least amount possible and I think Nordson has this down the best after trying them all. 20yrs experience
great job,this helps me a lot
Glad it helped!
Hey! You look like I do at the end of a work day! :D
Hey Dan, thanks for all the great content. On a job like this do you see a big difference between the Gema and KCI or is it just different settings and technique, but overall same issues. Iv'e been using a KCI for 5 years and have had great results and zero problems with the unit itself. I want to replace it as it has a bazillion hrs on it and I was thinking of upgrading to a Gema but just not sure if its worth the extra money. What are your thoughts between the two. Thanks for your time.
Big improvement for us, easy to set up and go. Dont have to adjust as much.
how many "boxes" were you able to complete with a 20kg box of powder?
Hi there, what type of nozzle you have used in the video to avoid the faraday cage issue?
Its just a flat tip
What's the powder nozzle you use, flat or round?
Bro everytime I try to put a second coat on it starts fish eyeing ....can you help...???
How’d you prep the boxes without sand blasting them?
Why would he blast them? They're un painted...
look up chemical etch
Try the hard areas first including your weld points. Your fellow Powder coatet🎉
Any tips for crevices on aluminum? Trying to get coverage and no runs and it’s beating me
would need way more info to help you out
Some great tips for a beginner like me, but it looks like that respirator is not doing a very good job.
No sand blasting? What was your prep? Thanks again for your time.
look up chemical pretreatment....you can get mechanical grip or chemical grip
Great advice
Great video. 👍
Thanks 👍
what spray booth do you have?
homemade but filter wall from columbia coatings
Dude, I see the mask and I also see powder around your lips… is your mask sealing properly?
who knows....im in the market for a new one, what you got?
@@RightNowPowderCoating I bought a 3M .. I’m just getting started so really haven’t spent a lot of time in and around the powder, i just built an oven and finishing a spray booth then I’ll start shooting powder …and checking the mirror haha I have really enjoyed and got a ton of information from your channel. I figured once I start shooting and f’n stuff up I’ll get on the peloton thing so I can hit you up about stuff.
@@RightNowPowderCoating are you still doing the patron thing, I went ahead and signed up. I’m not techie but it doesn’t look like anything current or I’m in the wrong place
@@scottbrown8142 yup, gets you all access to me as far as questions and trouble shooting help!
@@RightNowPowderCoating awesome I’m excited to learn …
brother i have 14 years experience in powder coating can i get job
Those parts are very easy to do but the way you do it just shows how little experience you have
Put phone in a Ziploc bag I always do it videoing and it works great 😃👍
Seems like that mask may be leaking a bit
It's old, I should get a new one, but I also rub my face with powder on my hands
@@RightNowPowderCoating I do the same thing. New one probably not a bad idea. I'm no safety man. Just an observation.
Hot flock corners and Faraday areas. Then move on to the rest.
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Based on the amount of powder on your nostrils I would say your respirator is not working. Not good.
Fire your electrician he wired the exhaust fan to rotate the wrong way.. blow out not blow back...lol