The BIG Debate

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  • Imagine South Africa under the leadership of each party represented here. What would our future from economic policies to social reforms look like? Can we trust them to deliver?

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  • @isaaccpt6643
    @isaaccpt6643 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    We can say whatever we want about South African politics but I'm hapoy that our democracy is healthy enough to have such a public debate and that is extremely encouraging

    • @VoiceOfReason579
      @VoiceOfReason579 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol because things have gotten serious. Desperate times call for Desperate measures.

    • @realnews8075
      @realnews8075 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These are not white apartheid times... where children were killed for wanting freedom

    • @dalipantshwa3078
      @dalipantshwa3078 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      smoke and mirrors friend. these faces are on the same payroll. Google Brenthurst Foundation and the conference it hosted recently where all the "leaders" on this panel were summoned.

  • @spha325
    @spha325 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    My vote 🗳️ Nationally belongs to Patriotic Alliance ❤❤❤❤

    • @corneliapeters7877
      @corneliapeters7877 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      A vote for them is a vote for the anc

  • @wazha1000
    @wazha1000 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Grootes was a terrible host. He brought bullying tactics from talk radio. The personal attack on Mashaba was shameful

    • @a.dlamini
      @a.dlamini หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very

    • @fatherofEgo
      @fatherofEgo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But I love how Herman conducted himself in response. Around the 30th minute or so

    • @noahsepp
      @noahsepp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed. How rude of him. As a host you can’t do that. This was a political debate and Grootes just attacked Mashaba for no reason.

  • @lihlechipeya
    @lihlechipeya หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    "You are just making that noise because your domestic worker and your nanny is going, she's going. You can make that noise as much as you like, under my government she is going" Gayton McKenzie 🤣 16:38

    • @BonganiM-xb4wc
      @BonganiM-xb4wc หลายเดือนก่อน

      He doesn't trust you 😂😂🤣🤣🤣twice

    • @expose_massive_banking_crime
      @expose_massive_banking_crime หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      as if we can afford workers anymore. he is SO out of touch with normal ppl

    • @lusapho5781
      @lusapho5781 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Gayton a real one 😂

    • @tinashemavurayi
      @tinashemavurayi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really happy to be employed as garden boy, maids and waiters in your own country.

    • @expose_massive_banking_crime
      @expose_massive_banking_crime 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tinashemavurayi respectable work

  • @mponengjoe9075
    @mponengjoe9075 หลายเดือนก่อน +268

    No election debate is complete without the EFF.

    • @user-ml9cp7vc5u
      @user-ml9cp7vc5u หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      It's a ploy to undermine a very progressive political voice in the country. It is a fact that the EFF makes a huge impression in every debate where they are invited.

    • @_Msizi_
      @_Msizi_ หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I couldn't even continue with the video after finding out. Now I'm going to unlike it and leave. I'm furious at this point.

    • @kamogelopelo3277
      @kamogelopelo3277 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      TRUE!!!

    • @SELLOMALESA
      @SELLOMALESA หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      true

    • @TheADS121
      @TheADS121 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      EFF was invited but declined

  • @rogerwolfson4897
    @rogerwolfson4897 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love Gaton, his my man

  • @shinaberum3952
    @shinaberum3952 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Gayton is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Making the establishment politicians very uncomfortable
    😂🥳🥳😂🥳🥳🥳

    • @mathewrichards7309
      @mathewrichards7309 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ANC Puppet

    • @jaimpin4784
      @jaimpin4784 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I AGREE AND STEVEN IS MAKING HIS NAME @ss to ask idiotic questions and trying to make him as a joke. If Gayton could win and stand by his word this country will change for the best

    • @millionairewizdom
      @millionairewizdom หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Gayton is REALISTIC, he doesn't sugarcoat stuff, straight truth.

  • @yourehuman9325
    @yourehuman9325 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    Can't expect to have a BIG debate with only Oppenheimer's children..

  • @mgwampi
    @mgwampi หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The IFP leader quietly stole the show for me.

    • @fatherofEgo
      @fatherofEgo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      KZN is safe, its clear to hear

    • @tshepoleroto8990
      @tshepoleroto8990 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like how he make his arguments.

  • @spha325
    @spha325 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    John is a true politician his lying with a straight face 😂😂😂😂

  • @caven7056
    @caven7056 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The audience is not a reflection of the demographics of SA.

    • @fatherofEgo
      @fatherofEgo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      its a microscope into the consumers of DM, does it have a true reflection of the people of RSA?

    • @user-ne3nm3wk6p
      @user-ne3nm3wk6p 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Audience exposes the lense that The Daily Maverick curates its narrative and selective outrage and suppresses certain narrative to pander to this minority. I never believed it when they spoke of Stratcom but you can not help but see it on this video and how they ran this platform.

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Gayton McKenzie was throwing hits after hits after hits....❤😂🎉

    • @copycatprint4584
      @copycatprint4584 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I love my President 💚💚

  • @junephillips1174
    @junephillips1174 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This interviewer Is most definitely a DA member. His not giving Gayton Mckenzie a fair chance his bias. My vote goes to PA .

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    What a cool guide guy, leader of the IFP. 🤙 Good luck sir.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      i saw a lot of big ego's on that stage. he was the only one that looked like a president

    • @londimkhize9196
      @londimkhize9196 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      very measured and calm,,, it was descending into chaos until he calmly spoke about trusting the work of the Multi Party Charter

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also like him

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Should multi party charter win, he must be president

  • @mousepad9763
    @mousepad9763 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Steven 😂😂😂😂 this stage was too big for you sir you were utterly unprofessional

  • @nyikobaloyi5527
    @nyikobaloyi5527 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Herman Mashaba put that sorry excuse of a host in his place nicely!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes

    • @christianKing101
      @christianKing101 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @jaimpin4784
      @jaimpin4784 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Steven is a joke of note , could they not find someone better than him

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaimpin4784 yes

    • @SwiftSP
      @SwiftSP 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That comeback of Mashaba is like South Africa vs England the last 10 minutes Rugby WC that is etched into history 😂😂😂😂

  • @mthokozisilanga4497
    @mthokozisilanga4497 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Good Mashaba for putting this journalist in his place😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Artistsandlegends
      @Artistsandlegends หลายเดือนก่อน

      The EFF leader is a dictator in the making. Be careful of him. #zimbabwe

  • @lockdownhouse6308
    @lockdownhouse6308 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    EFF’s absence is louder !!

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Gayton Speaks like this because he is not funded.... He is free and not bound by anyone❤❤❤

    • @CodeSleeper
      @CodeSleeper หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Facts💯💯💯

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gayton McKenzie don't have to clean lick any boby GAYTON MCKENZIE PLEASE FONT YOUR VOTERS

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't let your voters down

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👍

    • @himdamnself
      @himdamnself หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No room for xenophobes

  • @user-gy4lv3ck9q
    @user-gy4lv3ck9q หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The leader of the IFP was the most mature and was a statesman…. The rest were politicians.

  • @kamomabuya5457
    @kamomabuya5457 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    When Gayton and John were going at each other and Lamola said "South Africa, here's your coalition government" I felt that 😅💔🥺.

  • @wikussedze9292
    @wikussedze9292 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    The interviewer Steven is making it so obvious who he favors. Found it quite irritating. You are not open and equal to everyone. Clearly Steven is favouring the DA.

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yes

    • @nkanyisomkhize853
      @nkanyisomkhize853 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That what I'm seeing, exactly

    • @chiccodeebokmurema671
      @chiccodeebokmurema671 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The good thing is that he exposed himself

    • @eugenegareth
      @eugenegareth หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's very true, I was about to make the same comment.

    • @bold_art
      @bold_art หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He is unprofessional and childish, as he is at SAFM

  • @OreDecor
    @OreDecor หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Steenhuizen you are not a man of your word which makes you not an honourable person

    • @maryjooste6161
      @maryjooste6161 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      To me John doing very good

    • @mythoughts5170
      @mythoughts5170 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maryjooste6161Agree 💯

    • @the_antiquark
      @the_antiquark หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think John is doing a great job

    • @penekedirero4636
      @penekedirero4636 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maryjooste6161You must be same colour as him then.

    • @balsak007
      @balsak007 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Explain

  • @MalooTheSpecialist
    @MalooTheSpecialist หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I may not be an EFF supporter but where is the EFF, where is the MK, where is the Freedom Front Plus party... This debate was structered to undermind certain parties and to make other parties stand out... Steven is a real doooooos...

    • @expose_massive_banking_crime
      @expose_massive_banking_crime หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed a total do00s

    • @Augustinmasedi348
      @Augustinmasedi348 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's just a show for Oppenheimer's puppets,luckily we're not that stupid anymore

    • @viandrejack9896
      @viandrejack9896 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And how come Cyril didn't represent ANC .I would have liked to see that

  • @picassocube3521
    @picassocube3521 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing the job that you're doing right now", in future, when I see Steven's face I'll be reminded by this line!

    • @neekvids
      @neekvids หลายเดือนก่อน

      how can you laugh at someone who lives under a bridgewhen you live in a box

  • @balenidumisani296
    @balenidumisani296 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Why is this crowd only white? Is this discussion taking place in Europe?

    • @maxinefoster18
      @maxinefoster18 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good question

    • @TheSebastianmamba
      @TheSebastianmamba หลายเดือนก่อน

      The blacks are at Cubanas😂😂

    • @Mstshepana90
      @Mstshepana90 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That audience is the owner of Mzansi

    • @user-ne3nm3wk6p
      @user-ne3nm3wk6p 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is absolutely shocking. The Daily Maverick is out of touch and ethically unsound as a serious journalistic publication. Shameful

    • @GrootManEiniqua
      @GrootManEiniqua 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is that all you came here for, do you live in SA? If you do you would be aware that certain parts of SA are dominated by Blacks and some are dominated by Whites, some are dominated by Coloured and some by Indians etc. Now use your common sense.
      If the debate were held in Eldorado Park what do you think the crowd would have looked like? Same as if it were held in Alexandra Township.

  • @CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq
    @CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    I do agree with Gayton regarding illegal immigrants having the jobs!!!!

    • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
      @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Gayton must be used,he must prove himself in a more challenging position,he can deliver

    • @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
      @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But who is giving them jobs and notice how they want to get rid of minimum wage so they can under pay the poor and say at least they have jobs.

    • @bhekisibiluane4030
      @bhekisibiluane4030 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq shameful capitalist clapping hands sies. Debate was a clown show.

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mostly white people flapping hands because STEVEN IS WHITE ​@@bhekisibiluane4030

    • @sharibhai
      @sharibhai หลายเดือนก่อน

      true

  • @user-tz1pm7ir4s
    @user-tz1pm7ir4s หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Gayton I agree with your view on Hamas 💯💯💯

  • @phiwo8998
    @phiwo8998 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    Steven is utterly unprofessional, condescending in his tone and laughter ! Terrible panelist.

    • @bhekisibiluane4030
      @bhekisibiluane4030 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      shameful behaviour sies!

    • @mponengjoe9075
      @mponengjoe9075 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DA is likely to see its worst electoral decline this year.its leader is a walking wreck and lack leadership acumen .he is all over the show and lack strategic planning.

    • @superbowljoel01
      @superbowljoel01 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      to be fair, it's hard to take the anc representative seriously here, because every problem we face has been created by the anc. It's like asking your drug dealer to solve your drug addiction problem.

    • @godwillpulesnr9635
      @godwillpulesnr9635 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      My thoughts exactly. He disappointed me seriously.

    • @VoiceOfReason579
      @VoiceOfReason579 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True but at least he's condescending to all the panelist right 😂

  • @colleenrajpaul6023
    @colleenrajpaul6023 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Gaydon is a leader no dout

  • @bokangreacts843
    @bokangreacts843 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    without the EFF this is just propaganda to bash the ANC by moonshot pact wont waste my time

  • @MihlaliNomandela
    @MihlaliNomandela หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is not balanced without the EFF's presence. But ke it's the DM, what did you expect?

    • @fatherofEgo
      @fatherofEgo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we must not be disillusioned by this. Their lack of involvement speaks volumes, how can you speak of them in absentia?

  • @geoffrbbrown
    @geoffrbbrown หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The two DM people are utterly unprofessional and disrespectful … They play to the gallery by mocking Lamola. I’m not an apologist for him, but how utterly unprofessional they are.

  • @sheldinduplessis1424
    @sheldinduplessis1424 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    When Gayton told that guy "Nobody is that stupid".... That was the perfect response.

  • @isoboy1000
    @isoboy1000 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    "If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing what you are doing right now" i felt it. You could see on his face that he didn't take it well.

    • @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
      @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The man wants to under pay his employees and say looking they have jobs Mashaba only cares about his business interest and nothing else.

    • @mukuvaribrighton1586
      @mukuvaribrighton1586 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That Stephen is a stupid lad, he keeps on throwing undertones. Its clear he is a DA stooge, Im happy Mashaba put him in his place.

    • @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121
      @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq He says, Labour can't treat SMMES the same as Medium size and Big business. It is the those laws that kill small businesses. Small businesses must pay as much as they can afford. It is small business that help decrease unemployment. Half a loaf of bread is better than nothing.

    • @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
      @SpotonwithTP-qz6wq หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 Bro Mashaba just said he wants to determine how much he should pay someone period.Capitalist only care about profit he further states that's the reason he became a politician.

    • @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121
      @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq Remember, he talks on behalf of ActionSa, and ActionSa does not put a blanket policy on these kinds of businesses as I have distinguished them from above. Its an error on his part, because he is not a seasoned politician. Otherwise, he's the right man for the job. Capitalism has its falls but its way better than socialism, socialism is a disaster, it has not worked anywhere. Free market economy is the best for South Africa. As long a the ruling government does not have a healthy relationship with the (1) private sector in Sa and (2) does not promote non-racialism, then rest assured nothing will ever work in SA, SA will be a failed state.

  • @mcdonaldtshabalala663
    @mcdonaldtshabalala663 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Gayton and Mashaba are the best... Parliament will be interesting

  • @terminator2846
    @terminator2846 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I literally love how Gayton never sugar coats anything here 😂😂😂. We needed someone like this here.
    ActionSA has spoken some sense.
    My vote will never go to DA nor the ANC 🚮. John is a liar and is not for the people.

  • @EmmanuelMoela
    @EmmanuelMoela หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Stephen Grootes is soo immature what a shame!

  • @thamytmvelase2731
    @thamytmvelase2731 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    That Steven guy is so unprofessional, we expected such behavior from politicians not the interviewer. Completely ruined what could hv been a great debate. I like how Mashaba handled him

  • @clementpetersen-vb1nm
    @clementpetersen-vb1nm หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am really impressed by Gayton Mckenzie he is very direct and is clearly representing the colored voters and citizens sentiments not just his own.
    After listen to this debate I will definitely vote for Gayton Mckenzie

  • @Abby_KayGee
    @Abby_KayGee หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Gayton is what we need as a country. Decisive,smart and patriotic.

    • @relaxmeditatelive
      @relaxmeditatelive หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean erratic, irrational, and emotionally unintelligent.

    • @maryjooste6161
      @maryjooste6161 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm in Bwest where gayton are in charge Bwest is a rotten place under gayton look how Knysna look u under gayton he talk but not a walk

    • @mythoughts5170
      @mythoughts5170 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@relaxmeditateliveAbsolutely agree with you👏💯

    • @copycatprint4584
      @copycatprint4584 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Abby u are my kinda person

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@maryjooste6161thanks but I am done voting for useless DA and Anc😊

  • @ntobekodube2081
    @ntobekodube2081 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Shots fired by Mashaba 💥😂😂😂😂

  • @kopanokhumalo4344
    @kopanokhumalo4344 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Lamola had the toughest job...unfortunately the ANC is rotten

  • @lesedimohapi5283
    @lesedimohapi5283 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Not really pleased by the QUALITY of questions asked by the journalists. Simply questions grabbed from the air

  • @kgosimahlaku1981
    @kgosimahlaku1981 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    EFF is politics in SA and is what made most people to be aware of political issues.

    • @oitsiaya468
      @oitsiaya468 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts

    • @icno3508
      @icno3508 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿 banana africa

    • @user-nv5tu1je1h
      @user-nv5tu1je1h หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True

  • @phillipphoku9589
    @phillipphoku9589 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    The audience doesn't represent the diversity of the South African population. It's like this show was recorded in Europe.

    • @MartinVirgo-kz5wm
      @MartinVirgo-kz5wm หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best ❤❤

    • @sindiso_ndlovu
      @sindiso_ndlovu หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It was a presentation to the bosses

    • @lysterwhitfield5551
      @lysterwhitfield5551 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That's because your clan is more interested in going to shebeens and Shisanyamas instead of showing up at debates.

    • @mmmotives7452
      @mmmotives7452 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Participation is voluntary. If people do not engage themselves, don't blame or pull the race card.

    • @himdamnself
      @himdamnself หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's the reason why the EFF was not invited

  • @adamwyngaard3629
    @adamwyngaard3629 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Definitely missing Mr. Malema. Mr McKenzie says it like it is, that's what we need in Politics in SA.

  • @Lee_BuU
    @Lee_BuU หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Jonh just gets dumber dumber😢😢😂

    • @maryjooste6161
      @maryjooste6161 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Your not serious why do you say John are dumb mybe thres problem with you IK

    • @Lee_BuU
      @Lee_BuU หลายเดือนก่อน

      @maryjooste6161 are you listening to what he is saying...and do you honestly believe what he represents is for the good of all South Africans ...you must analyze things critically and don't put emotions upfront ...especially in politics....lemme give an assignment...go listen to Trump Vs Malema ...compare the two ...then you go listen to John vs Biden they both these two have ...no vision...no patriotism...and lack leadership

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ❤ beautiful said❤

    • @the_antiquark
      @the_antiquark หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      John was brilliant

    • @KKOPPONG
      @KKOPPONG หลายเดือนก่อน

      The DA is fucked. If John is the best the DA got then tough luck😂

  • @Nodange666
    @Nodange666 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    You can isolate the EFF all you want but deep down i know you know

    • @lindilelubabalozulu8476
      @lindilelubabalozulu8476 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They know everything and they are exposing themselves now

    • @sasha8664
      @sasha8664 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂Yes,we know they are Violent and Corrupt

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Daaamn who in good mind,invite EFF for debate,I have never seen these guys debating even in our national assembly.

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes we know the eff is useless😊

  • @mponengjoe9075
    @mponengjoe9075 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Illegal immigration benefits busness bcos of slave wages n not adhering to minimimum wages.all this NGOs representing illegal immigrants r likely funded by big business and big farmers.

  • @user-dq6un8eu6x
    @user-dq6un8eu6x หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Prof JJ Tabane must organize a proper political debate for us. That will include the Eff.

    • @penekedirero4636
      @penekedirero4636 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1stly you must tell us where is our gogos money and when you are gonna pay it back baba then we can talk.

    • @KhelleRadebe
      @KhelleRadebe หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most definitely, this was laughable 😂 it is more of a white worry debate.

    • @icno3508
      @icno3508 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿

  • @siphiwengcobo3975
    @siphiwengcobo3975 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    What makes this circus big without the party that represents the BIGGEST population of our country EFF? Do whatever you like but you will never silence the mighty EFF🖤💚❤️

    • @lindilelubabalozulu8476
      @lindilelubabalozulu8476 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why are we being discriminated against?

    • @fanasmkhethoni8176
      @fanasmkhethoni8176 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No discrimination, the eff leaders wouldn't participate in anything that has to do with the Daily Maverick and ENCA.Daily maverick investigated The eff leaders on VBS Scandal​@lindilelubabalozulu8476

    • @LL2019
      @LL2019 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is the debate organized by the funders of the parties represented here. They wouldn't like their funds to be used by the EFF.

    • @user-yz3su4nu9b
      @user-yz3su4nu9b หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because EFF always turn everything into anarchy

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And dnt feel offended,we all know Eff from day one has never been a part of the national assembly debate,all they do, it's wear red and coz chaos always.Ethics first.

  • @peternampolo5290
    @peternampolo5290 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    If only the EFF was present, this debate would have taken the right direction. Other than that, this was pure nonsense at the highest level. There’s no conviction in ideology and structural implementations intended.🚮

    • @DabbieDebs
      @DabbieDebs หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Would disrupt the meeting and make it a circus, like in parliament....they are so intolerant and arrogant.

    • @penekedirero4636
      @penekedirero4636 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell us where is our gogos monies baba before you can be allowed on the table😂

  • @menziken2783
    @menziken2783 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Because EFF is not part of this, it's a joke 😂 😂 😊

    • @samkelomngadi9515
      @samkelomngadi9515 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both EFF and MK, it's a joke

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We dnt bring Stoojies on such platforms,you see and listen here,no need to make noise,there are smart microphones.

    • @IonizedComa
      @IonizedComa หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because it's a civil debate. There's no throwing water bottles and screaming at the top of the lungs

  • @ErrolWeidemann-xn4zv
    @ErrolWeidemann-xn4zv 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All politicians play the same game. WHO's FOOLING WHO?

  • @user-do1pb2cp9w
    @user-do1pb2cp9w หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This plane called multi party coalition has failed before it could even get off from the ground

  • @leratomohlaudi5814
    @leratomohlaudi5814 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    You are having debates with Parties that are not even on the national stage , that haven’t proven themselves yet you leave the EFF out😂? What a joke this is

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go and debate where you have proven and don't invite these Parties,call ACT,UDM and MK the debate alone,it will be nice to see Malema,Holomisa,Zuma,Magashula

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eff doesn't have interviews with daily maverick

  • @gysgijsbers4202
    @gysgijsbers4202 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have lots of HOPE for SA after this debate. It shows we can talk to each other as SOUTH AFRICANS first and foremost, even if we disagree on many things... ❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

  • @mukuvaribrighton1586
    @mukuvaribrighton1586 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow MASHABA.........If you know the value of money, you would not be doing the job that you are doing now!!!!!!

  • @skimanization
    @skimanization หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    It could have been nicer if the EFF was invited in this debate. The strong youth led EFFof South Africa will definitely WIN!!!

    • @tlhaketaioe1601
      @tlhaketaioe1601 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They know we were going to send, Floyd, or Mbuyiseni, Julius, even our Spokesperson was going to mob the floor with them.

    • @williamshakur8715
      @williamshakur8715 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And turn tables over to much violence party

    • @thembanimgenu190
      @thembanimgenu190 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How do you know they were not invited 😅

    • @velaniludidi5886
      @velaniludidi5886 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Remember the EFF barred Daily Maverick from their events. The EFF does not speak to Daily Maverick, it was impossible to invite them

    • @thembanimgenu190
      @thembanimgenu190 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@velaniludidi5886 I think EFF people must go to sleep on events such as these.
      The EFF is also not participating in some of the podcast platforms so nje mabalale/basele utywala.

  • @meridahmwase648
    @meridahmwase648 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I agree with Mc Kenzie

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love Gayton McKenzie❤🇿🇦

  • @mpilompanza9101
    @mpilompanza9101 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is what South Africa needs. I'm happy that alternative media sees this gap and tries by all means to fill it . We need even more debates as well as Q & A sessions between average voters and politicians. This will drive our country towards the right direction.

  • @TheBuhlebezwe
    @TheBuhlebezwe หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Definitely voting for ActionSA. Mashaba comes across as a very honest patriotic man that just wants to fix SA.

  • @carldossantos7213
    @carldossantos7213 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is great to hear the laughing when Ronal Lamola talks. It is great!

  • @Activist.Corner
    @Activist.Corner หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Where is the EFF, where is the MK. The exclusion of this political parties really shows that they represent the people, they are not of the system that oppresses blacks and the poor.

    • @the_antiquark
      @the_antiquark หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they are😂 worse than ANC.

  • @mzimkhulujita2965
    @mzimkhulujita2965 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Gayton handled this horrible crowd

    • @mythoughts5170
      @mythoughts5170 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There was nothing wrong with the crowd

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The truth is never plesent Da is living in la la land just like the ANC WHAT IS DIFFERENCE between THE DA AND ANC IN THIS 30 YEARS

    • @the_antiquark
      @the_antiquark หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gayton is the problem😂

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@the_antiquarkyup he is a massive problem for the DA, Anc and Eff😊

  • @timzone8075
    @timzone8075 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Gayton speaks honest truth, even Steven is touched, he worried about his wokers at the expense of South Africans who are unemployed. For the sake of law, I'm prepared to carry my Identity documents the same way I'm carrying my driver's license. They reasons as why Unemployment is high in SA is because, jobs are stolen by foreigners and Unpatriotic employers. In SA foreigners they get employed by companies that do not respect the laws of this country, by employing foreigners with no special skills, but general skills South Africans have.

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Correct Ronald, the ANC needs help. Help to exit as a governing party.

    • @TshepoMotale-zq9sd
      @TshepoMotale-zq9sd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup we will gladly assist by voting Patriotic Alliance 🎉🎉🎉

  • @CharlieMhlongo
    @CharlieMhlongo หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Gayton is not a politician, he is a leader

    • @markwainwright6243
      @markwainwright6243 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Leader of chaos

    • @MevCompany
      @MevCompany 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@markwainwright6243 ABAHAMBE, WHEN ARE YOU GOING HOME?

    • @markwainwright6243
      @markwainwright6243 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Going jome after w​@@MevCompany

    • @markwainwright6243
      @markwainwright6243 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MevCompany where is home

    • @GcinaTV
      @GcinaTV 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@markwainwright6243 😂 a blabbermouth.

  • @siphiwembiyela3886
    @siphiwembiyela3886 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Steven favored the DA but couldn't stand the fact that the audience is leaning more on Mashaba and getting a round of applause with every statement he makes hence he ended up being personal but he found Mashaba up to the task. My feeling is that from all these guys we can get a decent government going forward

    • @terminator2846
      @terminator2846 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's white. Which is expected 😂

  • @neoqwabe8581
    @neoqwabe8581 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    "South Africa here is your coalition government" (Lamola, 49:12)😂😂

  • @christianKing101
    @christianKing101 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Can't wait to have Gayton McKenzie in Parliament

  • @Rosslyn-cx8ms
    @Rosslyn-cx8ms 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its th effective credible mark of the DA which makes services across the country a manor success!!!
    Its evident to vote DA in 2024
    Thankyou John Steenhuisen.

  • @ZulumanNdodana
    @ZulumanNdodana หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Without the EFF theres no debate.

    • @williamshakur8715
      @williamshakur8715 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Eff is aggressive party they will turn over the table s

    • @christianKing101
      @christianKing101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But the debate happened without the EFF they are not respected enough to be invited in the first place, no one beside the followers of malema has respect for him

    • @sasha8664
      @sasha8664 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Eff dont have self control.They will get aggressive and get violent...😂

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We dnt invite EFF on platforms like these,at times they behave like stray dogs,that are on leach.you can't walk a Mgodoyi on a leach,is going to bite you badly.

    • @zulub.r.u.h7846
      @zulub.r.u.h7846 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well we just watched a whole hour of a debate

  • @Pamela-ek9cp
    @Pamela-ek9cp หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Voting for PA

  • @GrahamRollison
    @GrahamRollison หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Lost all respect I had for Steven grootes. Gayton u what this sinking country needs.

    • @GB-ql8vm
      @GB-ql8vm หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      AMEN AGREE 💯 WITH YOU

  • @NomD05MZ
    @NomD05MZ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Put CCTVs at the Border gates and Home Affairs. Stop the cadre deployment of illiterate comrades.

  • @lwandosambudla307
    @lwandosambudla307 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mckenzie I agree with you, it's easy we don't even need to stop them oh the road and ask for passpone instead we need to approach their employers to see if the employer is following the process of employment act, if not employer himself must face a penalty

  • @_Msizi_
    @_Msizi_ หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Wy didn't we have an EFF rep here. Imnot watching the rest of this. Bye bye

  • @craiggouws4700
    @craiggouws4700 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Steven is clearly in favour of DA. How can they allow Steven as an interviewer? He is not objective

  • @sihlen.ngcobo9344
    @sihlen.ngcobo9344 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Gayton's energy

  • @ElPresidenteSA
    @ElPresidenteSA หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    MKP literally enjoys free marketing everywhere even in it's absence 😂

  • @moafro722
    @moafro722 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    the fact that the EFF isn't part of this debate and that by Biz news is a disgrace. tomorrow when the EFF reaches above 15% the very panelists will be the very same people running to make coalitions with them. I mean how do you call the PA which is yet to contest national elections over the EFF. this is really disappointing!!!

    • @TshepoMotale-zq9sd
      @TshepoMotale-zq9sd หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No you think too much to make that statement, let's hear new players and the view we know the EFF

    • @top-gnews8333
      @top-gnews8333 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@TshepoMotale-zq9sd hey wena clever black IFP Is old here

    • @justhumble1
      @justhumble1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well if you can check carefully it's the masters and their slaves and the EFF has not sold out our people so it's a positive that they are not here

    • @lindilemgqobele4337
      @lindilemgqobele4337 หลายเดือนก่อน

      remember all of these are scared of EFF, that has been proven.

    • @tshidiso9653
      @tshidiso9653 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Is DA and ANC new players

  • @vinnydadomza...9591
    @vinnydadomza...9591 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Why was the EFF which is the 3rd largest party excluded here?

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Some classes at school dnt need noise makers.
      Class,ethics and Class!!

    • @mmmotives7452
      @mmmotives7452 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      EFF most likely declined the invitation.

    • @GOAT676
      @GOAT676 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They cut ties with the Daily Maverick so I heard so they may have declined the offer or just didn’t get any.

    • @himdamnself
      @himdamnself หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      EFF would have sent all of them packing

    • @GOAT676
      @GOAT676 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@himdamnself no they are a trash party

  • @autlali5115
    @autlali5115 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Where is EFF ?

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Gayton, the youth might not want to be gardeners and domestics.

    • @quintonmlambo9746
      @quintonmlambo9746 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊😊

    • @quintonmlambo9746
      @quintonmlambo9746 หลายเดือนก่อน

      40:09 41:31 42:54 42:56

    • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
      @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our youth had better wake up,no good standing line at the airport and the ship lifts anchor,get onboard

    • @williamshakur8715
      @williamshakur8715 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We used do those jobs

    • @nicholasmasuku1501
      @nicholasmasuku1501 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gayton thinks black youth aspire to be gardeners, waiters and housemaids

  • @confuseddad2865
    @confuseddad2865 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The loudest guy in the room is the most worried guy in the room, gosh.

  • @thinkingempire4kids289
    @thinkingempire4kids289 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Poor Johny not the brightest crayon in the box

  • @saneledlamini2109
    @saneledlamini2109 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Steven should've taken part in the debate as the DA member he is and fighting for, I just hate how he's not allowing Gayton he's fair airtime. Really sad.

  • @nobuhlemthembuassertivewom6177
    @nobuhlemthembuassertivewom6177 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ActionSA makes sense for me. Herman Mashaba for President.

  • @musicworld3963
    @musicworld3963 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This debate is incomplete without the mighty EFF

  • @Sneezoboss35
    @Sneezoboss35 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love how Mashaba handled this Steven guy

  • @rosehunter5140
    @rosehunter5140 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Hlabisa is the calm statesman in this debate. So glad he is a valuable member of the opposition and MPC

  • @user-pr2pt5vm1j
    @user-pr2pt5vm1j หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Coloured Community wake up. For too long we have been taken for granted. We are marginalized in Mzanzi

    • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
      @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou หลายเดือนก่อน

      Colored communities had better stand up,they cannot afford another 5yrs of being marginalised

    • @costaqwabe5683
      @costaqwabe5683 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I doubt Gayton is the ONE...come to Action SA it's an inclusive party .. it's not a white or black party ..

    • @kopanokhumalo4344
      @kopanokhumalo4344 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are black

  • @ntombifikilendlovu9918
    @ntombifikilendlovu9918 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Ronald, After seeing n hearing you for so many times. You still fail to show me Why you are Justice Minister 🤔🤔

  • @princetafarabhebhe5781
    @princetafarabhebhe5781 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This debate just needed Floyd!!

  • @ivangrobbelaar6722
    @ivangrobbelaar6722 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    viva John that's how a leader speak. Soft, with respect and with knowledge also admit some mistakes.

  • @nanasi9791
    @nanasi9791 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There is nothing controversial about carrying Id documents until an influx of illegal foreigners is under control.People carried dompaas during the apartheid goverment at some point.

    • @rosehunter5140
      @rosehunter5140 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you think it is a good idea to bring back the dompas??

    • @bernardwelff8089
      @bernardwelff8089 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed, anything to remove illegal foreigners

  • @VusumuziMasekoSofas-gijima3-2
    @VusumuziMasekoSofas-gijima3-2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In Zim when its colonial name was Rhodesia or Southern Rhodesia, Ian Smith had persuaded the West to back his puppets in the persons of Abel Muzorewa and Ndabaningi Sithole who were said to be moderates. History proved them wrong! History is repeating itself in the twenty- first century. EFF is sidelined as popular Joshua Nkomo and Sir Gab Mugabe were. He was later knighted and subsequently de-knighted. We the Bethlehem, loyal EFF fighters take a wait & see approach.

    • @johanntheopienaar3635
      @johanntheopienaar3635 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      During the colonial name of Rhodesia this country was doing extremly well economicly it was seen as one of the best in Africa as one of the biggest taboco suppliers in the wolrd. Then came Bob and his clows and they runed the Zimbabwe to the core. Why are more than half of Zimbabwens working in SA.?