This debate was VERY well moderated. Way better than the mayhem of the Daily Maverick debate. That was sad. This debate was calm, easy to listen to and gave a fair platform to each speaker to defend their positions.
OPPENHEIMERS ARE WELL REPRESENTED 😂😂😂BUT WHY CAN'T THEY JUST BUILD ONE PARTY BECAUSE THEY UNDER ONE MASTER?😢MOON SHOP PACK IS LIKE THEY ARE BUILDING A COMPANY AND DA IS CEO OF IT
Because John Steenhuizen is too arrogant and rude to the PA he is actually putting our Country at risk. Gayton Mackenzie held out an olive branch to the DA and what did they do - critisized him. I listened carefully to Rob Herzof even he endorsed PA
@@bernardwelff8089 it makes once really panic about whom to vote for. They think this is a game but it is seriously S Africa's future. Herman Mashaba is such a gentleman even he stands up for GAYTON. My fear is letting everyone down by voting on a smaller party and vote gets wasted. God please help SA. I am watching every debate right now educating myself as much as possible
Why did they not invite UIM Pres Neil de Beer. He is always being overlooked as a new party, yet they always give newer parties like BOSA, Rise Msanzi etc a platform.
@vinnydadomza...9591 are you one of those that can't read for meaning?? Of those invited, the anc could not be bothered to send their cupcake leader and the eff couldn't even be bothered to turn up
Rise Mzansi is extremely suspect . Any voter who votes for them will be voting for the ANC . Do not believe what their leader says, look at the reaction of his two supporters who gave great applause to the ANC and seemed to only be gunning for the DA. Why? Huge immaturity and vindictiveness was shown by them. The Anc representative was as incompetent as his party is . The other parties came over as genuine supporters of the South African people . Thank you.
@@RasGda Lol, Like there isn't any Informal Settlements in other provinces? They literally move from Eastern Cape to Western Cape because it's better. They get basic services like water etc. I have friends there and have been there. DA spends 74% on their budget on the poor. These things take time. And also, If they like to live dirty, that is not DA's fault. There's a huge difference. You only like to believe what ANC etc says. Look for yourself. You been to KZN? Gauteng? EC? NC? Limpopo? Thought so!!
We have had load shedding for 17 years. It took the ANC 16 years to allow renewable energy! What a disgrace! Citizens have had to out of their own budget pay for solar systems on there houses in order to keep houses and businesses functioning!
I watched the Langa debate about crime in SA. From what I can tell, all of the SABC debates were atrocious. The participants and audience didn't seem to understand the purpose, the moderation was terrible with no respect for time, and the production quality was really terrible. Our national broadcasting corporation should do better. It's ridiculous that we have to rely on private organisations like News24 to host quality dialogue between electoral candidates
Thank you news 24 for this broadcast, so enlightening to hear from the parties in question, the ANC was as weak as we know them to be, it was a delight and pleasure listening to the IFP, ActionSA and Rise umzanzi, the DA leader was weak and this is where it's very evident of his lack of education and knowledge, Its clear the DA's strengths are reliant on fear mongering and what the ANC does wrong, and while I understand to some extent that's the role of the opposition but you need to be able to stand strongly as a party with your policies, ideas and views, you need to have a good understanding of our constitution and democracy this is not a play ground where you are fighting for a toy!
The ANC representative made a completely false statement, which he did not correct. He stated that there are over 800,000 (EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND) informal settlements in the Western Cape! How on earth could there be 800,000 informal settlements in the Western Cape? There are 7.5 million people living in the Western Cape. This would imply that every single person lives in an informal settlement and that there are less than 10 people living in each informal settlement! I am surprised that nobody picked up on this!
SA is a Movie 🎬 . Now, the moonshot pact parties are debating with each other🤣. Who can take this seriously? 🤷♂️This is just a family reunion. Nice rehearsal boys😂
I can't understand Zibis policy on land it sounds as if he agrees with the ANC. So why is he pretending that his party has a different policy. It is important to be clear in politics Mr Zibi.
Understand who the leaders are who broke away from the ANC and how they got to establish parties and where the monies come from. Know our corrupt leaders and what they have done in the past.
Hi everybody my question is why there r so many killings in SA while we about to take part in a very very important ELECTIONS in the DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY DO U REALLY REALLY LOVE YR COUNTRY SA
DA time to get on the front foot about land justice. DA should be advocates for a radical programme to transfer title deeds and accelerate restitution. Expanded home ownership creates a platform for economic growth, visible land justice is essential to legitimacy of the democratic project.
I do agree with your point 100%, but I also think that as we ask all alternatives to ANC, what will they do about land, we must also ask ANC, what have they done about land for the past 30 years?
The coloured people ,worked in factories. The cloths they made were excellent. The most beatiful, coats,, lady's two peace suits. Jerseys. Of world class Quality. Is there anyone else who knows what the coloured be did. The schools were run by Christian men and women. Who were outstanding in there behaviour, our children were well taught. That was in the cape flats. I want to thank them for there excellent work. Now all those factories are shut down❤
Are we going to see salary cuts in the higher positions of parliament and government. We also need creative resolutions on what and how these public. entities are going to get paid
This is nice, but what we really need is American style presidential debates where the top 4 or 5 LEADERS, not party representatives take part. True to ANC, they ran scared. Bad optics, Ramaphosa
Yes CIC can't be there..how u can invite parties who a nkt in a parliament they don't hv a clou ..u could invjte ramaposa. Malema. John. Vfp.IFP yes i anderstand
This is a Moonshot brainstorming session mos. otherwise listening to Hairman speak is so torturous, It's like he's having a brain short circuit while speaking! 😖
The ANC only ever highlights the shortcomings in the Western Cape but never discuss what goes on in municipalities run by them. Have you seen the state of the Eastern Cape? Some residents of ANC-run municipalities must deal with road and water infrastructure repairs themselves because there's no money available due to corruption. In the western cape our service work. People in INFORMAL SETTLEMENT may disagree but they loge in informal settlement. And they do get services even though they migrate the wc to get aware from their poor functioning ANC run municipalities. Do the math. Also the ANC advocate for undereducating people. Why? So people can't thinking for themselves. That's what you get when you can "pass" math at 30%, proving that you didn't understand 70% of it. And then there's the gift that they've given us of loadshedding for 16 YEARS! WAKE UP MZANZI. loadshedding has only been suspended to manipulate voters. It will come back. Loadshedding pending.....
Watching closely and very attentively, one can detect quite easily the countenance of Mr Basson he talks and asks questions like talking to his garden boys now the EFF will definitely not condone such a nonsensical attitude, JJ, SIZWE AND EVEN SBU CAN DO FAR BETTER THAN MR BASSON.
What would you do to create Jobs in South Africa John: The current leading party is lacking here, here and there... Really ? This is who you wanna make the President of SA.
Mr Huistenhuis John, obo ngwatha bofodile ebile o thabile bcs he is the only one running the show, this is one political party parading using different names 🙄.
THIS LEADER OF THE IFP TALKS SO MUCH SENSE
He is great
This debate was VERY well moderated. Way better than the mayhem of the Daily Maverick debate. That was sad. This debate was calm, easy to listen to and gave a fair platform to each speaker to defend their positions.
NHI is the ANC's way of accessing more taxpayers money
So ANC leaders think they are too important to attend?
Do these ANC clowns actually believe their own nonsense which comes out of their mouths, best for them must keep quiet
I'm not voting for Rise Mzansi but this guy 🔥🔥🔥he proves me wrong today.
ActionSA 💚💚💚
Multi Party Charter to rescue and save South Africa and its citizens
In yr dream
These are dreams that will never come true. All these people standing here are confused and will never rule
Dubulinyanga are not coming back after 29/05😭
Multy party They will soon fight for leadership😂😂😂
OPPENHEIMERS ARE WELL REPRESENTED 😂😂😂BUT WHY CAN'T THEY JUST BUILD ONE PARTY BECAUSE THEY UNDER ONE MASTER?😢MOON SHOP PACK IS LIKE THEY ARE BUILDING A COMPANY AND DA IS CEO OF IT
ActionSA
Weak
Wise man💚
This ANC guy is a fool
Voting tomorrow for @Action4SA
John Steenhuizen is won this Debate by a country mile!!
What mile l didn’t even hear one tangible thing that he said all his comments shows exactly the level of his education.
@@kholwanincube6568 That's because you weren't looking for it 😘
@@kholwanincube6568 Sense is something you LOVE to look past mos.
Why did you not invite the President of the PA
You don't invite clowns to attend serious national issues
Because John Steenhuizen is too arrogant and rude to the PA he is actually putting our Country at risk. Gayton Mackenzie held out an olive branch to the DA and what did they do - critisized him. I listened carefully to Rob Herzof even he endorsed PA
@@sharonbradshaw4589you are 100% correct.
@@bernardwelff8089 it makes once really panic about whom to vote for. They think this is a game but it is seriously S Africa's future. Herman Mashaba is such a gentleman even he stands up for GAYTON. My fear is letting everyone down by voting on a smaller party and vote gets wasted. God please help SA. I am watching every debate right now educating myself as much as possible
Who?
Why did they not invite UIM Pres Neil de Beer. He is always being overlooked as a new party, yet they always give newer parties like BOSA, Rise Msanzi etc a platform.
Follow the money
They follow the money u hv to pay
I agree I love listening to Neil de Beer
Rise Mzansi and BOSA has the same funders as DA.
@@trevinofritz7824 And ANC Oppenheimers
The representation on this panel should tell you which parties are serious about the voters, only DA, Action SA and IFP care to send their leaders
And as voters will decide outside dubulinyanga
They don't invite themselves, they need to be invited for them to be in the panel, did that not cross your mind 🤔
@vinnydadomza...9591 are you one of those that can't read for meaning?? Of those invited, the anc could not be bothered to send their cupcake leader and the eff couldn't even be bothered to turn up
Halfway through and so far interesting debate. Hats off to the candidates who are answering and talking in a civil manor. Well done.
You are talking nonsense anc representative. You are living in your own dreamworld. The ppl on the ground are suffering because of anc govt !
Action SA💚💚💚
Did the ANC guy say anything worthwhile? For some reason I become deaf when he opens his mouth.
U see e verything too cold without EFF
EFF are scum
They probably had a court appearance.
Very constructive debate without those hooligans
No open border criminals 😂
Because the humans can sit and debate? No need for animals in parliament thanks
Rise Mzansi is extremely suspect . Any voter who votes for them will be voting for the ANC . Do not believe what their leader says, look at the reaction of his two supporters who gave great applause to the ANC and seemed to only be gunning for the DA. Why? Huge immaturity and vindictiveness was shown by them. The Anc representative was as incompetent as his party is . The other parties came over as genuine supporters of the South African people . Thank you.
Rise Mzansi ftw
Steenhuizen - To the point. Direct. His party has a good track record! AND his solutions are firm and proven to work.
Also uneducated, tone deaf and a joke in the eyes of the majority.
Probably in your suburb not kayelitsha and the like
@@southafricanfunandhorrorma5210 It has!
DA is good for those it chooses to work for in CA only go look at Khayelisha, Nyanga etc and decide for yourself
@@RasGda Lol, Like there isn't any Informal Settlements in other provinces? They literally move from Eastern Cape to Western Cape because it's better. They get basic services like water etc. I have friends there and have been there. DA spends 74% on their budget on the poor. These things take time. And also, If they like to live dirty, that is not DA's fault. There's a huge difference. You only like to believe what ANC etc says. Look for yourself. You been to KZN? Gauteng? EC? NC? Limpopo? Thought so!!
You mean you are stealing and lying tirelessly, anc ???
Oppenheimer boys in the house 😂😂😂😂
We have had load shedding for 17 years. It took the ANC 16 years to allow renewable energy! What a disgrace! Citizens have had to out of their own budget pay for solar systems on there houses in order to keep houses and businesses functioning!
Came here from the chaotic SABC news bloem energy debate. Im 80 seconds in. Hoping to have good debate so I am informed when I vote.
I watched the Langa debate about crime in SA. From what I can tell, all of the SABC debates were atrocious. The participants and audience didn't seem to understand the purpose, the moderation was terrible with no respect for time, and the production quality was really terrible. Our national broadcasting corporation should do better. It's ridiculous that we have to rely on private organisations like News24 to host quality dialogue between electoral candidates
Without the EFF this debate is cold 🥶
Very cold really..mashaba make it wes ..let vote EFF CIC as a President
You just don’t like peace, uthanda umsindo 😂
EFF prefer drama
At 2:40 minutes in you can clearly hear that they said the EFF was invited but did not accept the invite, or perhaps could not make it ;)
😂😂😂😂😂yes I was wondering the eff is not in the house..
Biggest and most influential...(Rise Mzansi and ActionSA...!?!) Hay anikho serious nina!!! Iphi i EFF ne VFP?
The EFF was invited but they declined the offer.
@@News24VideoYou were expecting EFF to turn up for a debate moderated by Adrian Basson?
Are you mad?
@@MotlokwaThwii I mean we know already Adrian is DA. All these parties report to the same head office hence they are all here.
@@mogirl94Exactly 😂😂😂 and these are all Oppenheimer boys
Where are parties such as BOSA?
Mr Steenhuizen please. exuse the ANC representitive. we all know they cannot count 1
2 3 4
United to rescue south africa asap
I appreciate that ActionSA has mentioned crime in this country
Thank you news 24 for this broadcast, so enlightening to hear from the parties in question, the ANC was as weak as we know them to be, it was a delight and pleasure listening to the IFP, ActionSA and Rise umzanzi, the DA leader was weak and this is where it's very evident of his lack of education and knowledge, Its clear the DA's strengths are reliant on fear mongering and what the ANC does wrong, and while I understand to some extent that's the role of the opposition but you need to be able to stand strongly as a party with your policies, ideas and views, you need to have a good understanding of our constitution and democracy this is not a play ground where you are fighting for a toy!
You right John was weak as he always is
apparently ANC speaker was given less time to express party position in the coming elections 😅
No he consistently rambled nonsense instead of sticking to the point.
PA ,MK,EFF and BOSA are all not there...clearly this is for the Moonshot pact
You saved my time
We want to know if these people are going to be held accountable for what they did to the south african people
Go DA!!
Who is the well-spoken gentleman from Rise Mzanzi?
The ANC representative made a completely false statement, which he did not correct. He stated that there are over 800,000 (EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND) informal settlements in the Western Cape! How on earth could there be 800,000 informal settlements in the Western Cape? There are 7.5 million people living in the Western Cape. This would imply that every single person lives in an informal settlement and that there are less than 10 people living in each informal settlement! I am surprised that nobody picked up on this!
SA is a Movie 🎬 . Now, the moonshot pact parties are debating with each other🤣. Who can take this seriously? 🤷♂️This is just a family reunion. Nice rehearsal boys😂
Why is John so scared of Songezo!
Where is BOSA?
Mashaba knows what he is talking about listern to him
ANC had 2 choices, Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. ANC saved SA from Apartheid but it's now corroded.
They should of had Neil De Beer on
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Biggest how when the Eff is not here?
Obviously the establishment doesn't want to give EFF platform 😂😂
the EFF declined to attend, as they said
At 2:40 minutes in you can clearly hear that they said the EFF was invited but did not accept the invite, or perhaps could not make it ;)
Besides that we are all tired of that disruptive tendence
Who wants the EFF there anyway? They cant speak intelligently and they know it.
Anc is the only party that think, BEE is good for SA
EFF’s absence screams loud !!! I’ll watch the next one I guess
Kkkk me too
the EFF declined to attend, as they said
Why was Gayton Mckenzie not invited?
I can't understand Zibis policy on land it sounds as if he agrees with the ANC. So why is he pretending that his party has a different policy. It is important to be clear in politics Mr Zibi.
Seems like his followers have the same mindset by shaking their heads
What an interesting debate giving us the direction that we must vote out the ANC and EFF or South Africa is leading to disaster.
Is IFP president trying to sound like Nelson Mandela 😂😂😂😂 or
This debate is doesn’t make sense without EFF
Moonshot Pact Debate
I am here and like what’s happening here they should get a room😅
Lmao all pushing the agenda of the Oppenheimers
It's a meeting
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ehh these people are trying ei😂😂
DA is well versed! Go DA!
Well versed 😂😂😂are joking
@@kholwanincube6568 Funny I see, tell me what party has clean audits every year? the one that you support? I wonder?
EFF doesnt attend nonsense debates of wmc
But they do go to parliament which was built by wmc
Doubt they have the intellect for a debate anyway
Where is ATM
Rise Nzanzi leader is a very much competent man in that debate
WHY HAVE THEY NOT BE CRIMINALLY CHARGED? TALKING ABOUT ACE, WHY IS HE NOT IN JAIL? POST PONE THE COURT CASES OF THE CADRES THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
Understand who the leaders are who broke away from the ANC and how they got to establish parties and where the monies come from. Know our corrupt leaders and what they have done in the past.
Is rise mzansi a biggest political party 😏?
The ANC gentleman is just used by his party.
Hi everybody my question is why there r so many killings in SA while we about to take part in a very very important ELECTIONS in the DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY DO U REALLY REALLY LOVE YR COUNTRY SA
Vote for EFF and ll hving a free crime country CIC my president
like this comment...very true
DA time to get on the front foot about land justice. DA should be advocates for a radical programme to transfer title deeds and accelerate restitution. Expanded home ownership creates a platform for economic growth, visible land justice is essential to legitimacy of the democratic project.
I do agree with your point 100%, but I also think that as we ask all alternatives to ANC, what will they do about land, we must also ask ANC, what have they done about land for the past 30 years?
The interviewers couldn't hide their issues with anc guy!
So fed up of hearing about Palestinian, fix your own country first Mr anc
Herman unfortunately cannot fix it!
Did John threatened not to participate if BOSA with Mmusi Maimane was invited?
The coloured people ,worked in factories. The cloths they made were excellent. The most beatiful, coats,, lady's two peace suits. Jerseys. Of world class
Quality. Is there anyone else who knows what the coloured be did. The schools were run by Christian men and women. Who were outstanding in there behaviour, our children were well taught. That was in the cape flats. I want to thank them for there excellent work. Now all those factories are shut down❤
Are we going to see salary cuts in the higher positions of parliament and government. We also need creative resolutions on what and how these public. entities
are going to get paid
A debate without the PA, EFF and MK is such a waste ... who is rise mzansi ? Just a party funded by Stellenbosch
This is nice, but what we really need is American style presidential debates where the top 4 or 5 LEADERS, not party representatives take part. True to ANC, they ran scared. Bad optics, Ramaphosa
Mr Ramaphosa is the boss he doesnt have to be there.
if the numbers dont add up for ANC to be voted out rather they join votes!
EFF must stop this nonsense of not attending these debates. Its unbecoming of a party that wants to govern
Do you know the relationship between this news24 and the EFF?do some research and and come comment....if that racist Adrian
I don't even trust that the EFF was invited🤔
Yes CIC can't be there..how u can invite parties who a nkt in a parliament they don't hv a clou ..u could invjte ramaposa. Malema. John. Vfp.IFP yes i anderstand
The children of Oppenheimer
True, all of them.
This debate is boring
EFF ✊🏾 ✊🏾 ✊🏾
Viva cici
Biggest and influential yet the 3rd biggest and influential political party is not there, lol very funny
😮change all unemploy
If Gayton and Malema are not on this stuff i immediately know all these ones here have the exact same funder
DA and IFP are the only sensible parties
ANC was very bad represented...the guy so weak and decorative
Invite UIM NEXT TIME PLS
Please rise faster
Why is the MPC debating
Poor moderation
Where is julius malema
EFF was invited but they declined the offer.
He was scared
@@sasha8664 no my dear, he is leadership, I think adriaan basson didn't invite him, and that's racist 😉🤔😜
@@DennisGowaseb-yj1xz Thuggery,Violence,Thieving and Illogical isnt leadership
He is having a beer
This is a Moonshot brainstorming session mos. otherwise listening to Hairman speak is so torturous, It's like he's having a brain short circuit while speaking! 😖
What a dull debate just a waste of time
The ANC only ever highlights the shortcomings in the Western Cape but never discuss what goes on in municipalities run by them. Have you seen the state of the Eastern Cape? Some residents of ANC-run municipalities must deal with road and water infrastructure repairs themselves because there's no money available due to corruption. In the western cape our service work. People in INFORMAL SETTLEMENT may disagree but they loge in informal settlement. And they do get services even though they migrate the wc to get aware from their poor functioning ANC run municipalities. Do the math. Also the ANC advocate for undereducating people. Why? So people can't thinking for themselves. That's what you get when you can "pass" math at 30%, proving that you didn't understand 70% of it. And then there's the gift that they've given us of loadshedding for 16 YEARS! WAKE UP MZANZI. loadshedding has only been suspended to manipulate voters. It will come back. Loadshedding pending.....
Watching closely and very attentively, one can detect quite easily the countenance of Mr Basson he talks and asks questions like talking to his garden boys now the EFF will definitely not condone such a nonsensical attitude, JJ, SIZWE AND EVEN SBU CAN DO FAR BETTER THAN MR BASSON.
They're more like singing one song for one master just different version
And get the illegal substances drugs are you gonna do something about it 🤔 😂
Multicharter debate the ANC
have you seen Khalafong...and Weskoppies... nothing is better
What would you do to create Jobs in South Africa
John: The current leading party is lacking here, here and there...
Really ? This is who you wanna make the President of SA.
Mr Huistenhuis John, obo ngwatha bofodile ebile o thabile bcs he is the only one running the show, this is one political party parading using different names 🙄.