I warmed to Hogarth after seeing this! Considering it’s not his song and his Vocals are polar opposite to fish’s this is fun and a totally enjoyable performance 🎭
I actually like H more after this version. It was always supposed to be a fun song and the fun didn't stop when he screwed up. I've seen a few Fish screw-ups with this and other songs after all! Love them both.
I like reading the comments of people bashing Hogarth for his performance on this, but I’d like to see those of you get up on stage and sing this as perfect as you want it. Hogarth does this song justice and turned his mess ups into a fun moment, because that’s all what the song is. I’m sure the fans that night could care less. It’s marillion. Let’s just admire the fact that this band still goes up on stage and goes about their concert with enjoyment.
But THAT'S the whole point if the criticism in the first place! Every established band you can think of has a song somewhere that a new singer just "shouldn't" do, mostly because some songs have such a special place it the heart of fans that any other version is simply considered blasphemy, no matter how good the new singer might be, and should be left alone. Hogarth is a fantastic singer and was a perfect fit for Marillion, I doubt many would dispute that, but in case you never noticed, there are songs from the Fish era even he won't do for one reason or another, and Garden Party really should have been one of them.
I have the RP1000 that Pete is playing. good bit of kit. Great Song, Hogarth can just about hit those notes that fish used to, Fish can't do them anymore and Hogarth does Fish a lot of justice. Sounding great guys!
Why is everyone falling about this late version...??? Be glad this early music from the early 80-ties is still being performed... Btw, Fish is vocally hardly able to perform such early numbers anyway. And also if you want to keep it original, then drummer Ian is out of place here as well. Fyi, the original album recordings were with Mick Pointer on drums & the official videoclip of this hitsingle featured Andy Ward instead of Mick Pointer. Ian Mosley joined Marillion later on in the middle of the recording sessions of the Fugazi-album.
Anyone who understands life on stage can see how admirable it is that H didn't lose his composure AT ALL. Also, there are many videos of him actually making GREAT justice to Fish-era songs. It's true that Fish had more raw grit, but Hogarth is a technically better singer, showman and an impecable professional above all.
Boa noite amigo (considero amigo qualquer pessoa que ame Marillion). MARILLION PARA MIM, (DE TODAS AS BANDAS PROG), é a melhor banda de sempre no seu registo...
O meu maior desgosto foi ter sabido que Marillion tocaram em Portugal numa cidade a 30 km da minha (20 minutos de carro) e so soube apos concerto ter saido da cidade! Neste momento o meu sonho é poder ve-los num Marillion Weekend em Londres ou Holanda, mas é muito caro...
I loved the way he messed up a verse but still had the gusto to wade thru it. Rothery has turned into a FB I didn't recognize him at all. Hogarth does look a bit like Jas Coleman though but he's a worthy successor to the mighty Fish.
Igual que deje de amar a Génesis cuando se fue Peter Gabriel, igual que deje de amar a Yes cuando se fue Jon Anderson, igual deje de amar a Marillion cuando se fue Fish. Entiéndase "amar" por seguir. Hogarth es un gran cantante y me gustó en Brave pero el frontman, poeta y cantante de Marillion es Fish para los corazones que amamos a esta banda.
Same thing for me ....i'm from Montreal saw them the last time for the ''Clutching at straws'' tour ....i'm sure they're still doing great music , but as far as i'm concerned when Fish left he left with the soul of the band ... didn't listen to any of Fish solo work either ...Fish and Marillion were meant to be together ..to have that magic touch
Eins meiner Lieblingslieder von Marillion, doch scheinbar kennt nur Fish den Text. Auch die Champagner Flasche ist zu kompliziert. Ich höre weiterhin lieber das Original - es gibt nur eins....
Fish was better off his writing is just a rip off of Peter Gabriel and he is a raging alcoholic who threw a plant at Steve Rothery because he sucks at guitar. Forget Derek Dick, Hogarth is better and will always be
Made a point of listening to this to see how it came off. It's a sounds good being well recorded but there is a hole that only Fish and his vocals can fill. I presume the songs were written with his vocal style in mind.
@@renatonascimento1041 Se vc escreve it's that true vc está perguntando, não afirmando! Mesmo se o correto seria "is that true?" se a tua intenção tivesse sido de perguntar, mas como vc quiz afirmar então teria que ter escrito That's true! Um abraço e viva o MARILLION!!!
Not for me I'm afraid. Absolutely love Marillion during the fish era and still do. Hearing this version with Hogarth singing makes me cringe. I know Fish's voice is shot now but he would still have sounded better imho
Gosto muito do Marillion mas este Steve Hogarth pode continuar a cantar por mil anos que não vai chegar aos pés do Fish , pois Fish é a cara do Marillion.
Vc é mais que vive de passado como museo! Fish fez 3 albuns, dos quais 1 é o mais famoso. Hogarth fez tantos de perder a conta e Brave superou Misplaced Childhood!
I've been playing M for 40 years. Love the band and tried hard to like Hogarth. Never got into the new stuff. Hogarth's voice is too sterile, clinical. You hear it once and it sticks, in a bad way. He has no connection to the early material, that's fine but it looks to me like he absolutely hates singing the old stuff. Its like a rant of vocal masturabtion, misplaced, out of order. A mockery. I'm sad to feel this way as the band was always more than Fish. The music still holds up, it's incredible. Brian Johnson was a good replacement for Bon. Hogarth always a Fish out of Water.
What a poor performance. It doesn't do justice to the original with Fish in any way. It's a shame that a classic has been ruined like this. In any case, I think that a band can no longer be the same band if the composition of the members changes. It's a shame, I would be disappointed if I had paid the entrance for this...
Musically they still was. Great performance of great musicians. But the voice doesn't have the magic of Fish. All songs without Fish are boring. And yes , I've heard a lot of Albums with Steve Hogarth.
@@bocforever6791, fish couldn’t sing like this now and for many years couldn’t ! I prefer them from the early days as well, but Steve H makes a good effect of this old classic.
Marillion without Fish is zero. Voice of current vocalist is zero comparing to Fish and his amazing voice.The should not play Fish music, it does not make any sens trying to compare to one unique talented Fish.
Colin Adams You wrote a (false) fact, not an opinion. And you clearly not like H’s era if you think this. By the way I prefer Fish as singer, lyricist, frontman and generally like man, but H has got far better voice technically and nowadays he can still sing his own and Fish’s material. The Big Man lost his voice
It's not Fish's music, it's Marillion's... Fish wrote the lyrics and vocal melodies. It's as much Rothery's, Trewavas's and Kelly's song as it's the big man's, so why shouldn't they play it live. It's great to still be able to hear the old songs. And h does a great job with the old stuff. Gives it his own spin while staying faithful to Fish. It's perfect.
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WOW! That voice never fails to make me smile....What a band!!!
Love H when he goes wrong, his face is a picture, fantastic voice.
Nice to see them performing early songs still.
And they ended the 2023 weekend in Montreal with this song
@@millercgr Don't sing Fish material. Its embarrassing. Let the audience sing it. Floppy hair
Love it when Steve R laughed at H's "La de da de da de daaa", then Pete helps him out with "water". Love this band so much, warts and all.
I warmed to Hogarth after seeing this! Considering it’s not his song and his Vocals are polar opposite to fish’s this is fun and a totally enjoyable performance 🎭
Thank you for stating a fact perfectly All these H haters Fish lovers are crazy they are both Great but totally different
Very fun performance!
That's why we love h 😅
Hogarth is such an amazing singer and a nice dude. Forget the lyrics? No problem. 😁
No excuse , disrespectful .
@@gazzertrn Why? Mistakes happen, grow up and get over it.
Great band great fun.
quel spectacle quel voix J'adore❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😂😂
Pure Energy - Fantástico domínio da platéia - SALVE MARILLION - One of the BEST BAND this planet !!! Rio de Janeiro BRASIL !!!!!!
Miss the happy-positive-proggy Marillion....
Steve sei a dir poco unico voce da brividi immenso 💙💙💙🎸🎸
I love it!
That is LIFE! You are on stage and this is a pro!
I actually like H more after this version. It was always supposed to be a fun song and the fun didn't stop when he screwed up. I've seen a few Fish screw-ups with this and other songs after all! Love them both.
far from a fun song, never intended that way, and he has screwed it up
@@andyc750 The song’s a parody, meant to poke fun. It is a fun song 🙄
@@gab2876 evidently the origins and social situation at the time is lost on you
@@andyc750its a parody on social elitism
@@erotomaniac51 well aware of what it is, a parody does not mean it is supposed to be fun/funny
Oh bonheur !
Marilion ❤
Fish is another planet!
Rei morto,rei posto. H, você é sensacional, man. Saudaçoes de Sao Paulo, Brasillllll
Yes, it's true. I Love Marillion since OCT 12 1985. 12' Party in Ouro Preto City!!!
I like reading the comments of people bashing Hogarth for his performance on this, but I’d like to see those of you get up on stage and sing this as perfect as you want it. Hogarth does this song justice and turned his mess ups into a fun moment, because that’s all what the song is. I’m sure the fans that night could care less. It’s marillion. Let’s just admire the fact that this band still goes up on stage and goes about their concert with enjoyment.
But THAT'S the whole point if the criticism in the first place! Every established band you can think of has a song somewhere that a new singer just "shouldn't" do, mostly because some songs have such a special place it the heart of fans that any other version is simply considered blasphemy, no matter how good the new singer might be, and should be left alone. Hogarth is a fantastic singer and was a perfect fit for Marillion, I doubt many would dispute that, but in case you never noticed, there are songs from the Fish era even he won't do for one reason or another, and Garden Party really should have been one of them.
There is no Marillion without Fish.
Hogarth is better than Fish
@@erotomaniac51don't be silly!
time for you to try and invent a time machine dummy
@@erotomaniac51for sure m8 i agree
Festa al badiu de casa. Ohhhh
I have the RP1000 that Pete is playing. good bit of kit. Great Song, Hogarth can just about hit those notes that fish used to, Fish can't do them anymore and Hogarth does Fish a lot of justice. Sounding great guys!
Querido da mama 😍💖💖💖💖
This is hilarious.... but what A PARTY!
Hbd for me 🎈😉👌 2024🎉
Why is everyone falling about this late version...??? Be glad this early music from the early 80-ties is still being performed... Btw, Fish is vocally hardly able to perform such early numbers anyway. And also if you want to keep it original, then drummer Ian is out of place here as well. Fyi, the original album recordings were with Mick Pointer on drums & the official videoclip of this hitsingle featured Andy Ward instead of Mick Pointer. Ian Mosley joined Marillion later on in the middle of the recording sessions of the Fugazi-album.
Rene Huisintveld
Stop being a nause
FISH LEFT, MARILLION DIED!
THE END!
@@davidpagett9895 No, they didn't! They got better!
@@davidpagett9895Hogarth is better than Fish
Anyone who understands life on stage can see how admirable it is that H didn't lose his composure AT ALL.
Also, there are many videos of him actually making GREAT justice to Fish-era songs.
It's true that Fish had more raw grit, but Hogarth is a technically better singer, showman and an impecable professional above all.
Not Fish, but a damn good rendition of one of my fav Marillion songs.
Never will be fish .
@@gazzertrn But will always be h, which is far from bad
Hogarth is better than Fish
yeah right ..troll.@@erotomaniac51
Of course he is better
Muito bom ! Amo a musica do Marillion
Boa noite amigo (considero amigo qualquer pessoa que ame Marillion). MARILLION PARA MIM, (DE TODAS AS BANDAS PROG), é a melhor banda de sempre no seu registo...
+Progrock Man concordo , fui no show do São Paulo . Um sonho realizado .
O meu maior desgosto foi ter sabido que Marillion tocaram em Portugal numa cidade a 30 km da minha (20 minutos de carro) e so soube apos concerto ter saido da cidade! Neste momento o meu sonho é poder ve-los num Marillion Weekend em Londres ou Holanda, mas é muito caro...
Gosto muito do Marillion a identidade do Marillion é com Fish no vocal aquele canta demais.
I loved the way he messed up a verse but still had the gusto to wade thru it. Rothery has turned into a FB I didn't recognize him at all. Hogarth does look a bit like Jas Coleman though but he's a worthy successor to the mighty Fish.
Oh dear.
Fiesta en el jardín.
its all good fun....
Igual que deje de amar a Génesis cuando se fue Peter Gabriel, igual que deje de amar a Yes cuando se fue Jon Anderson, igual deje de amar a Marillion cuando se fue Fish. Entiéndase "amar" por seguir. Hogarth es un gran cantante y me gustó en Brave pero el frontman, poeta y cantante de Marillion es Fish para los corazones que amamos a esta banda.
Marillion will never be Marillion without Fish.
Indeed.......
Those 4 albums are perfect
Grow up
Hogarth is better than Fish
@@erotomaniac51he's not prog. He's a dad rock singer.
Fun performance, big difference in Ian’s playing compared to the original drummer and Pete’s playing now,
Andy Ward did the video (weirdly) although Mick played the drums on it. That said Mick was on the way out, and Diz was already out.
Funniest and strangest version of this song. H looks like drunk daddy here))
Yeah, in a charming way.
I keep thinking Fish is going to burst out of Steve Rothery any moment
You tedious, tedious buffoons ranting about Fish. This is like reading.comments under any non-Tarja Nightwish song. Chill. This is a ... PARTY.
The Floor super fans are actually worse.
I'm sorry but this is more a mockery than anything --- was hoping for so much more from Hogarth.
It was the last song played at one of the weekends, everyone's celebrating. It's perfect for the moment!
Pished again.
cant name a single song from the current band. I know what Fish wrote well.
I pitty you...
@@arnonabuurs7297 30 years in ignorance, I suppose that is nice to some people...
Same thing for me ....i'm from Montreal saw them the last time for the ''Clutching at straws'' tour ....i'm sure they're still doing great music , but as far as i'm concerned when Fish left he left with the soul of the band ... didn't listen to any of Fish solo work either ...Fish and Marillion were meant to be together ..to have that magic touch
Hogarth is better than Fish
The music is so good, I just wish Fish was singing. With all due respect to Steve, of course. But the band's still got it!
Fish is the voice for this this guy gives it a good try but not a patch on the big man
Did the modern band play any other fish era stuff I can watch? Post links Marillion friends!
Did Fish sing this on Nursery Cryme?
You what?
Hogarth trys but hes not fish
Fish could not hit these notes so many years later either. Not a good comparison. Most singers can not hit the high notes they did in their 20s
Hogarth is better than Fish
@@erotomaniac51don't be silly!
@@johnross2924 no he is
Ja ganz nett .. aber der Song geht oder ging nur mit Fish sorry
Eins meiner Lieblingslieder von Marillion, doch scheinbar kennt nur Fish den Text. Auch die Champagner Flasche ist zu kompliziert. Ich höre weiterhin lieber das Original - es gibt nur eins....
Magnifique..... mais fish sur cette chanson c’est quand même autre chose....
It will always be Fish
So much better than the old singer!!
non si può sentire questa versione...... Fish non si può sostituire!!!....
Definition of the misunderstanding..
1
make an effort H
Pants compaired to the original
Steve ist gut aber Fish wäre besser
No. NO. NO.
Du Genesis ???
No Fish,No Marillion.
Your loss
Fish was better off his writing is just a rip off of Peter Gabriel and he is a raging alcoholic who threw a plant at Steve Rothery because he sucks at guitar. Forget Derek Dick, Hogarth is better and will always be
Steve Hogarth is a fantastic singer but replacing Fish after 5 amazing First albums wasn't a easy task.
Sorry, i am a fish fanboy...old songs belong to him. Nice try...but...
yes fish is better
Move on guys!! The stage was changed
Come on , it is far away from bad, but you are right... for the Times...
Made a point of listening to this to see how it came off. It's a sounds good being well recorded but there is a hole that only Fish and his vocals can fill. I presume the songs were written with his vocal style in mind.
Hogarth is better
no fish, no marillion
No opinions like this, a better day to everyone who enjoy H era. Don't like it? Just don't listen.
@@renatonascimento1041 Se vc escreve it's that true vc está perguntando, não afirmando! Mesmo se o correto seria "is that true?" se a tua intenção tivesse sido de perguntar, mas como vc quiz afirmar então teria que ter escrito That's true!
Um abraço e viva o MARILLION!!!
Fish............
Not for me I'm afraid. Absolutely love Marillion during the fish era and still do. Hearing this version with Hogarth singing makes me cringe. I know Fish's voice is shot now but he would still have sounded better imho
Hogarth has and always will be better than Fish
@@erotomaniac51don't be silly!
@@johnross2924 no he is
@@erotomaniac51 fish is marrilion, hogarth can sing but he's not marrilion.
Some lead singers simply can't be replaced!
@@johnross2924 No marillion is marillion
No, he should not sing Fish songs. Awfuly!
habs fan .. pffft
Gosto muito do Marillion mas este Steve Hogarth pode continuar a cantar por mil anos que não vai chegar aos pés do Fish , pois Fish é a cara do Marillion.
Vc é mais que vive de passado como museo!
Fish fez 3 albuns, dos quais 1 é o mais famoso. Hogarth fez tantos de perder a conta e Brave superou Misplaced Childhood!
@@ytaka72 , Enlouqueceu cara kkkkkkk. H é bom , substituiu bem a Fish, Mas comparar Misplaced a brave é piada. Brave é bom, mas não é Misplaced
@@ytaka72 Niñez extraviada es insuperable. Marillion es Fish aunque Hogarth lleve más años cantando.
nunca gostei
agora sim consigo ouvir marillion depois do steve entrar no grupo!!! fantástico
Demon estrady ......:))))
He have too time to lean the lyrics.
🐠
Also, one of those songs that belong to Fish, and ought to have been left alone by Hogarth.
Ilove Fish and not the other man from marillion.
we know you do, nobody cares
Hogarth is better than Fish
@@erotomaniac51don't be silly!
just wrong, shouldn't be let near a Fish song
What is he wearing?? And who is he? Bring back fish
I've been playing M for 40 years. Love the band and tried hard to like Hogarth. Never got into the new stuff. Hogarth's voice is too sterile, clinical. You hear it once and it sticks, in a bad way.
He has no connection to the early material, that's fine but it looks to me like he absolutely hates singing the old stuff. Its like a rant of vocal masturabtion, misplaced, out of order. A mockery.
I'm sad to feel this way as the band was always more than Fish. The music still holds up, it's incredible. Brian Johnson was a good replacement for Bon. Hogarth always a Fish out of Water.
this video is about a shameless singer who needs to perform ridiculous mockery
Steve Rothery es unico ,falta fish ,
WHAT A SHAME!! I compare this ... (Sh...) with Fish. Such a SHAME!!😢
hope he was drunk... love the fish and h era... but this is not a good version at all
Not fish
..nowhere right
.joke
das sind seine songs .die nach zu singen ist eine schweinerei .lang lebe fish
A Fish out of water, sorry but it feels like no respect to the early days of the original band...
What a poor performance. It doesn't do justice to the original with Fish in any way. It's a shame that a classic has been ruined like this. In any case, I think that a band can no longer be the same band if the composition of the members changes. It's a shame, I would be disappointed if I had paid the entrance for this...
Полная хрень, клоунада...Только Фиш!
wie kann man nur so schlecht die songs wieder geben .
This is not the band I've used to love... big disappointment!!
Musically they still was. Great performance of great musicians. But the voice doesn't have the magic of Fish. All songs without Fish are boring. And yes , I've heard a lot of Albums with Steve Hogarth.
@@bocforever6791, fish couldn’t sing like this now and for many years couldn’t ! I prefer them from the early days as well, but Steve H makes a good effect of this old classic.
Come on boys...Fish just ça notre be compared with H..
Hogarth send the band to another level....
Hogarth is better than Fish
I think it is ignorant to sing the wrong words
This guy is a disaster. The way he forciby sqweezes his voice out...
Marillion without Fish is zero. Voice of current vocalist is zero comparing to Fish and his amazing voice.The should not play Fish music, it does not make any sens trying to compare to one unique talented Fish.
@@gergojanko9022 Not nice using language like that , everyone is entitled to their opinion.
And just for the record I like both era's of Marillion.
Colin Adams You wrote a (false) fact, not an opinion. And you clearly not like H’s era if you think this. By the way I prefer Fish as singer, lyricist, frontman and generally like man, but H has got far better voice technically and nowadays he can still sing his own and Fish’s material. The Big Man lost his voice
H
It's not Fish's music, it's Marillion's... Fish wrote the lyrics and vocal melodies. It's as much Rothery's, Trewavas's and Kelly's song as it's the big man's, so why shouldn't they play it live. It's great to still be able to hear the old songs. And h does a great job with the old stuff. Gives it his own spin while staying faithful to Fish. It's perfect.
no fish, no marillion
Hogarth is better than Fish