Wow. This has been such a blessing to me in my life right now. I always condemned myself for falling into sin which led me away from God not understanding why God wouldn't leave me alone because I still felt his presence. He never left my side. About a week ago I called out to Jesus in my own frustrations asking him what am I missing? Where is the conviction to repent from the things I know is wrong? What happened? What am I doing wrong? Jesus give me your TRUTH! Within the same week I understood that I was trying to atone for my own sins instead of trusting in Him😢. Now I completely trust in the Grace of God knowing noone can snatch me out of his Hands. He will continue to do the work in me through Him!!❤
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Is this not a key difference between being under enlightenment or knowledge of who God is without being actually born again@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA BIG AAAAAAAAAMMMMMEEEEENNN Jesus Christ will never UN redeeme ANY ONE EVER WHEN U ,,,,,, BELIVE..... HIM HE KNOWS U PERIOD HE BOUGHT U WITH HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363that’s falling away into false religion/money/bitterness. Not sins. Read psalm 89. It takes so long for us to overcome our iniquities.
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The problem I have with OSAS is that it sugarcoats Christainity. OSAS says that "Yes, I am saved but I do not have to worry about the choices I make because God is a God of love, happiness and butterflies." or "God saved me so I'm good to go. I have no more obligations as a follower of Christ but to live this life and then die." OSAS paints a pretty picture of love, positiveity, good vibes, and self-love but dismisses repentance or taking up our cross DAILY to follow Jesus.
@@ross19902008 Nobody born again has that attitude. I know of no one in my 30 years as a Christian that says ok I'm good now can live how I want. God has removed the heart of stone, which is the rebellious heart, and replaced it with a heart of flesh. OSAS is not a good description of eternal life and security. Here are some passages you may want to prayerfully consider. You also need to understand verses like " pick up your cross and follow me" are not salvation verses, but discipleship. Those are two different things in scripture. John 3 perfectly explains how to be saved. Revisit that. FIVE times Jesus tells us those who are His will never perish but have eternal life. Get yourself out of the way and look to Jesus, because ONLY He saves us, and keeps us. 1 Peter 1 Ephesians 1: 11-12 John 15:16 John 6:37-40 John 10:28
@@kimwestwood8840yes the prerequisite to being a Christian is to deny yourself and pick up your cross, SIN is extremely offensive to God, Christianity is not a license to sin but to live Holy BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Importance of Repentance Look at the Order. Repentance & Remission of sins -Luke 24:47 (You are not forgiven unless you repent). Romans8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit (So in order not to be condemned you must walk according to the Spirit) ST PAUL Remember St Paul rebuked the Churches, telling them to fix their ways. If once saved always saved was a thing he wouldn’t bother writing letters to the churches. PEOPLE WHO WON’T ENTER HEAVEN Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@@kimwestwood8840 SIN IS OF THE DEVIL, HOLINESS IS OF GOD If you sin you are of the devil (1 John 8:44) when you ask God to change your life and you put in your own effort (James 4:7) then you are adopted into the family. God is Holy so you must be Holy, you need to enter the narrow gate and aim to be perfect as the Father is perfect; you will be sanctified and changed overtime and conformed to the image of Jesus. If you are born again you can still fall away ; Jude refers to it as being twice dead. Remember in revelation it states the devil makes war with those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ and keep the commandments of God. Now most people do one without the other; for instance, lukewarm Christians (Rev 3:16) have the testimony of Jesus but are living in intentional sin. Jews keep the commandments of God but do not have the testimony of Jesus. God requires both!
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
@Tableú That verse is more saying something like cut off the temptation. Hand & eye seem to suggest lust & masturbation. God hates that HOW DO I STOP CERTAIN SINS? James 4:7-8 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. First you need to pray to God and tell him of your struggle then submit it to him and when the urge to sin come resist it eventually you will lose the desire all together to do that sin! John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
You speak about backsliding. You say you can't backslide if you didn't slide forward to begin with- That is a FELLOWSHIP ISSUE, NOT a SALVATION ISSUE Jesus Christ is MARRIED unto the backslider. Jeremiah 3:6, 8, 11, 12, 14, 22, KJV. The Corinthian church were the most carnal people and yet Paul called them BRETHREN. A saved(BELIEVER) who backslides is STILL SAVED-FOREVER. They are still children of God. There are BELIEVERS who have backslid but they are still saved. NOTHING shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord-Romans 8:37-39 KJV.@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
@@seehisglory7 PEOPLE WHO WON’T ENTER HEAVEN Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. JESUS VIEW ON SIN If sin wasn’t offensive to God, then why would Jesus say this in Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire. And also to the woman caught in Adultery Jesus forgave her but said “go and sin no more”. God hates sin.
OSAS-OSAS is built on a FALSE premise: the word "saved" That word is not defined correctly by OSAS clergy. In the new testament there are 2 similar words ...salvation and saved. Salvation in the GREEK is soterion which means to deliver from. Saved in the GREEK is sozo. which means to heal, to make whole. A person who believes about the death, burial and resurrection of JESUS..or accepts the gospel or JESUS , or grace or forgiveness or pardon is not healed or transformed in character just by acceptance or assent to truth. JESUS teaches ,that the meek shall inherit the Earth, the pure in heart shall see God, a person's righteousness has to exceed that of the Pharisees. Heb 12:14..one must be holy. ALSO God's forgiveness is void if one does not forgive others . MATT 6 , MATT 18 See parable of soils and.....the word "IF" in the bible!!!!! THEN….. look at 1 COR 9:27 where PAUL , of ALL people, does not have eternal security. He explains in the next chapter.
@@bobreese4807 well stated….. OSAS is only good for the conscious of those that want to believe in this Calvinistic teaching. God doesn't imprison those that come to Him. If we desire too, He will allow us to walk away from Him.
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I used to be a once saved always saved girl myself. Until the Lord convicted me and washed me from a lifestyle of sin. A once Born Again child of God gloriously filled with the spirit I fell back into sin and for 5 years was blindly living a life of sin all the while thinking that I was a child of God. I even went to church in this condition and once convicted it took me a YEAR for my eyes to fully be open to the height that I had fallen from. The spirit of God began to minister to me and I began to see just exactly what had happened and why. This once saved always saved Doctrine was nothing more than a license to sin and live in it without conviction because the light had been removed and the spirit was absent! I was blinded once again in sin just as if I had never been saved... but I thought I was saved. as the spirit of God began to minister more and more I went to him in prayer and I said you have shown me the truth now show me what I can do. so here I am. John 15 1-10Jesus clearly states that if a man remains in him bearing fruit then shall he be my disciples. He States every branch in me that bears no fruit is taken away and burned. He did not say once connected always connected there's a contingency based upon remaining in him. Remaining in the Vine. The problem that occurs is that folks do not remain in the Vine. When they don't remain in the Vine they do not produce fruits unto repentance scripture is clear that father God will cut it down and it is to be burned. This is parallel to what Paul spoke of in Hebrews chapter 6 and verse 8 in that which Bears thorns and Briars is rejected near to cursing whose end is to be burned. 2 Peter 2 amplifies this ..vs 20 for if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled and overcome the latter end is worse for them than the beginning for it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness then after they had known it to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them but this is happened unto them according to the true proverb the dog is turned again to his own vomit and the sow has returned to her wallowing in the mud. Ezekiel 18:24 “But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die" Folks have been bamboozled by the once saved always saved lie. It's the same lie that Satan presented to Eve in the Garden of Eden. It's the same old tactic with a different label. Genesis 3:4 and the serpent said to the woman YOU SHALL NOT SURELY DIE for God does know that in the day that you eat thereof then your eyes shall be opened and you shall be as Gods knowing Good and Evil. In the same way this false Doctrine teaches sins are forgiven past present and future...it teaches no need for repentance or self-examination why, you are above sinning...past present and future sin is abolished. You've already received your crown!! Live as you like..when scripture is very clear from Isaiah 59 that sin is the number one thing that SEPARATES us from God. it neglects the fact that we need to have a clean conscience before God. It denies that we have to be ready waiting and watching for the Master's return. Ready waiting and watching requires self-examination and a repentant heart before the throne of grace. if you're once saved always saved you have no need to walk in holiness and without it the Bible says None will see the Lord. Once saved always saved is a cloak for sin when the Bible says to submit ourselves and humble ourselves and to crucify our flesh. Once once saved always saved is quite possibly one of the largest deceptions and contributors to the great Falling Away spoken of in second Thessalonians 2 and 1st Timothy chapter 4. While it promises comfort and eternal security it is a false security and a very deceptive slippery slope AWAY from Christ and OUTSIDE of the vine to those who wrap themselves in it. You have no need of Him any longer! You've believed the lie! Jude explained this deseptive doctrine to perfection..For certain people have crept in unnoticed [just as if they were sneaking in by a side door]. They are ungodly persons whose condemnation was predicted long ago, for they distort the grace of our God into decadence and immoral freedom [viewing it as an opportunity to do whatever they want], and deny and disown our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. 5 Now I want to remind you, although you are fully informed once for all, that [e]the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe [who refused to trust and obey and rely on Him This Doctrine portrays only the love of God and it neglects the Holiness of God. God has not nor will he ever change for he has said I am the Lord I change not. One is either born again or they are not. They either have the spirit of God or they do not. if they are born again then they will not remain in their sin or continue in a lifestyle of sin and still have the Holy Spirit for the scriptures are very clear that it is sin that separates us from God. A child of God will not run around and Tout that they are above falling, they fear God, humble themselves understanding that he REQUIRES abiding in him, faithful service and a commited life to overcoming the World the Flesh and the devil just as Christ did but also knowing and Remembering The Words of Christ that any man putting his hand to the plow and then turn back is not fit for the kingdom of God. They begin to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling just as Paul said. They walk in daily communion and obedience to the savior. it's my prayer that anyone reading this would carefully consider through the lens of scripture where they stand. That they would examine the scriptures for themselves and let the spirit of God teach them and direct them and guide them into all truth. Jesus says straight is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life and few are found therein. once saved always saved is a very welcomed and famously preached Doctrine by many respected pastors but if you could have a bird's eye view into the throne room where they stand and give an account for what they have taught in error I'm sure one would shutter in fear... Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.. 1 Peter 5:8
Powerful stuff. Thanks for sharing! The deception is strong for many. I pray the Lord will have mercy in opening the eyes of those who are sleep walking.
BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@knowchrist THE NARROW WAY 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
What is salvation to you? Do you still sin? Like quick to anger, lying, lust, gluttony, swearing, coveting, laziness and more… or do you just not do anything of a sin whatsoever? And if you find that you have committed a sin, do you worry you’ve lost your salvation by your own deeds?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@@gregorylatta8159 once saved always saved didn’t exist for the first 1500 years. Makes all the warnings void and Gods word never returns void. Those who continually hear and follow will have ever lasting life and not perish. Conditional salvation.
@@larrywilliams2464 The only condition for salvation is that we believe the gospel. Do you??? There have been believers in OSAS since the first century. They were known as Christians. The warnings are for unbelievers unto salvation and carnal Christians unto divine chastisement and Bema seat of judgment results. Can you refute the truth. No you can't.
May God have mercy on your souls. You know of who I speak. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith and not of yourselves it is a GIFT of God: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. Many here say OSAS is a licence to sin. False Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. We all sin everyday but a believers know it wrong. Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth and Scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If you continue to sin you can lose God's Grace in your life now. But you will not lose your salvation. Rightly dividing the word of God please. God bless you all
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363the scripture says those that continue in a life of sin without regeneration were not born again. Many profess Jesus with their mouths, but their hearts are far from him. We are warned the tares grow with the wheat and goats are mixed in with the sheep. we can see plainly in the churches today that not all are born again. We are supposed to test dreams and all things with scripture. Luke 16:26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set, so that those who want to go over from here to you will not be able, nor will any people cross over from there to us.’
@@MsJonellovesJesus The guy above fell into compromise and ended up in hell forever , God doesn't play games SUPERFICIAL RELATIONSHIP People want the benefits of believing in Jesus without living life as a true Christian in Holiness, separation from the world. People treat Jesus like a fire insurance policy when He is so much more. Unfortunately, many guys and girls treat each other superficially, fornicating with each other to get a sexual thrill and not truly loving one another, a true relationship founded on love has sexual gratification as just part of the marriage not the main goal. Ephesians 5: 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her
Why don’t you guys finish that verse. You always cut off the second half? Why? “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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@@theodoreritola7641 SIGN YOU ARE BORN AGAIN OR NOT Many people claim to be born again but aren’t. Being born again is evident/shown by a change in your lifestyle-Holiness instead of sinfulness (You need to be Holy to go to Heaven-Hebrews 12:14). If you are still doing the sins of your past, you are not born again. 2 Corinthians 5: 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Thank you gentlemen 🙏 I've watched many, many theological debates and this is certainly amongst the very best! Such respect for each other. Great perspectives from each speaker 🙏🙏
SIGN YOU ARE BORN AGAIN OR NOT Many people claim to be born again but aren’t. Being born again is evident/shown by a change in your lifestyle-Holiness instead of sinfulness (You need to be Holy to go to Heaven-Hebrews 12:14). If you are still doing the sins of your past, you are not born again. 2 Corinthians 5: 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
@@Rileyed The commandment is dont worship them for God is a Spirit, In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@Rileyed HEARERS VS DOERS Romans 2: 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; Do you simply hear the right path or are you walking in the right path the narrow gate. If I attend every college lecture does that mean I will do well n all assignments and exams? No. I have greater odds of doing well but I might not. There are people who know very little in comparison to you yet do well. Attending Church is good but living life as a Christian passes the test.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 my question is simply why is the antichrist photo your logo? Why? Makes no sense. You can’t be that dense? The first evidence according to the word is child likeness. But yea. If you want to be taken seriously. Removing the Freemason Jesus photo might be a good start to obedience. That isn’t Jesus nor even close to what he looked like.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 “You either deny self or you deny Jesus” “The cause of Every failure in the Christian life is just this: I trust this cursed self instead of trusting Jesus; I trust my own strength over the mighty strength of God” “If any man will come after me let Him take up his cross and follow me” “I must deny myself and take Jesus himself as my life. I must choose. There are 2 lives, the self life and the Christ life. I must choose one of the two. Follow me says our Lord. Make me the law of your existence; the rule of your conduct. Give me your whole heart and follow me and I will care for all. Cast yourself before the Son of God and say, “i deny my own life; I take Thine life to be mine” Only Christ himself coming in can cast out self and keep out self. He is able by his divine grace to prevent the power of self from ever asserting itself and gaining the upper hand. Jesus Christ is willing to become the life of the soul. That he is ever the light of our souls. Not I…..but Christ lives in me.
What about in the last days there will come false preachers who will lure people from their faith. That tells me right there that people can lose their salvation. Like pastor mark talked about we have free will God doesn't force us to serve him. By the way I enjoyed this forum very much thank you.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the very elect. Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, even the elect. ( NOW where did it say they will be deceived and or seduced? NO PLACE! Study your bible! )
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 A true believer will never forget Who Jesus is and what He did for us at the cross by shedding His blood for the forgiveness of our sins who died was buried and rose the third day that we can have life with Him IF WE BELIEVE! It's like knowing the color of a blue crayon and never forgetting that color, can you? of course not, UNLESS you never believed in HIM in the first place.
@@brohuggie2978Okay suppose you are right about Eternal Security. How do you know you are saved to begin with ( You’re assuming that you are)? Allot of people were raised Christian but live like the rest of the world lying, stealing, sexual sins, dishonouring parents etc So you aren’t saved from your sins, if sin has dominion over you. But by the power of Jesus, you overcome sin and God gives you a new heart where you seek after holiness (Born again). 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. Ronans 11:22Therefore, consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him.” Yes no one can pluck you from God’s hand, but you are free to jump out.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I am saved because of what Jesus did at the cross, by shedding His blood for the forgiveness of all my sins, died and was buried and rose the third day to give us life ( IF WE BELIEVE IN HIM ) as He asks us to, that is how and why I am saved.
This was excellent, in light of all the differences it was refreshing and informative to hear both scriptual positions addressed in a Christian manner. It would be wonderful if other non-essential topics could be disscussed, like, "The Baptisim in the Holy Spirit," subsequent to salvation. And perhaps the Rapture of the church. Thank You "Church for all Nations " posting this content.
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 It depends if you think it is a permanent loss or not. Would you re-accept a believer what was once lost after believing and then came back or did they expire their one free ticket of salvation and can never be saved again. or Is this actually suggesting they can't crucify Christ a second time because they are still under the blood of the first and walking through the initial steps of salvation again puts it to shame.
@@jakeofsp4des Salvation is a gift and one can freely return a gift SIGN YOU ARE BORN AGAIN OR NOT Many people claim to be born again but aren’t. Being born again is evident/shown by a change in your lifestyle-Holiness instead of sinfulness (You need to be Holy to go to Heaven-Hebrews 12:14). If you are still doing the sins of your past, you are not born again. 2 Corinthians 5: 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I don't mean to be a pain but that didn't address my question which was one of practicality. How do you implement that verse after one has already become born again? Are they a lost cause or not?
BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 they where never true Christians if they where they would have finished the race. You can be put in the book of life and not be a true Christian they where Christians that built these house on sand in other words not true Christians. God bless!!
@@nicholasjones77990 No, you can't be in the book of life and not be a Christian. Someone can be born again believer, then change their mind and become atheist. Their name will be blot out of the book of Life so they will perish by going to Hell, same for all those who continue to sin without repentance
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 no honey I'm sorry but no, once Jesus has you in hands there is no way to take you out his hands!! I trust in God for my salvation not myself!! They where never true Christians from the start!!
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
@@motherbear5091 IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
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A Christian can't loose their Salvation. The Bible says a Christian is sealed with The Holy Spirit untill The Day of Redemption. Nowhere does it say a Christian can get unsealed. You can't undo God's supernatural gift of Salvation through sins of the flesh. All of a Christian past present and future sins were already forgiven when Jesus shed His blood for the forgiveness on the cross. All our sins were future from that point on. We are not saved by works nor kept saved by works. Jesus Finished work on the cross was enough to save and God's power keeps us saved. People trusting in their own works for Salvation have not 100% trusted in Jesus Finished work on the cross. You can't add works +grace.
IF JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS WHY REPENT? Repentance is the way provided for us to become free from our sins and receive forgiveness for them (WE ARE NOT FORGIVEN UNLESS WE REPENT). Sins slow our spiritual progression and ultimately stop it. Repentance makes it possible for us to grow and develop spiritually again. The privilege of repenting is made possible through the Atonement of Jesus Christ/ So both Belief in Jesus as God and Repentance are needed. See 1 Corinthians 6:9 Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
@@its_me_christopher_16 CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE) Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Repenting occurs when a person becomes a Christian. When they realize their sin is wrong and they need a Savior. Repenting of sins like false teaching says is part of a false Lordship Salvation. Nobody could ever remember all their sins. Even in The Bible it says God Repenting that he had made man. He changed his mind. Repenting is a change of mind not a turning from sin. Now you have an incorrect understanding of what repentance means. Yes unless we Repent change our mind and realize sin is wrong and place our faith in Jesus as our Savior then we do not get the benefit of Jesus death burial shed blood and resurrection for the forgiveness of our sins. Some falsely teach a person must confess all their sins or repent of individual sins before they can become a Christian. There's so much false teaching in regards to repentance because very few even understand the meaning.
@@JohnCGUNSNFREEDOM I understand that repentance is a change in mind, when you realize sin is bad and what sent Jesus to the cross and continue to sin you will die and go to hell you must change your ways., In the Bible it says Repent & Believe, notice the order - you must repent first then believe (Mark 1:15) CHRISTIANITY IS A LICENSE TO LIVE HOLY , ETERNAL SECURITY IS A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). ST PAUL Remember St Paul rebuked the Churches, telling them to fix their ways. If once saved always saved was a thing he wouldn’t bother writing letters to the churches. PEOPLE WHO WON’T ENTER HEAVEN Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
There is no debatr, OSAS. Everlasting means everlasting. And God can NOT LIE. Titus 1:2 - In hope of ETERNAL LIFE, which God that cannot lie promised before the world began
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@highrpmproductions Ok here it is Hell: I was taken there and saw one skeleton in the left and many skeletons on the right facing this one skeleton, they were there for idolatry and fornication, and the background can only be described aa destruction. 2ndly I saw a girl on earth on the same bed as a guy and she kissed him on the cheek (implying a unlawful sexual relationship), the girl died and went to hell and fire consumed her entire bod but there was some skin left over , I remember thinking “at least she has some skin drooping from her face” and then more fire came and consumed her skin
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 The state of the dead, according to the word of God. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die* {Genesis 2:17} Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he? ... So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep* O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, 👉till my change come. ... His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them. {Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21} And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God. {Job 19:26} Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest. {The Preacher 9:10} Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish* {Psalm 146:3-4} Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead." {John 11:12-14} ... Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection 👉at the last day. Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:" {John 11:24-25} But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days* {Daniel 12:13} For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life. {John 3:16} And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die* {Genesis 3:4} Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire* {Ezekiel 28:14} ^ (satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.) The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? *He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil* {Isaiah 33:14-15} If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.
I CAN TELL U DO NOT KNOW JESUS CHRIST @ALL ,U HAVE NOT BEEN REDEEMED, WHEN you know him u know him because u put your trust in his blood only to forgive u of all your sins past present and future sins PERSONALY
I’m only 39 minutes into the video but in response to the pastor who said that losing our salvation has to be intentional, I would point out the book of Galatians where the Galatians were seeking justification by works of the law and in doing so they had fallen from grace. Their intention was not to turn away from Christ, they thought that they were obeying God by getting circumcised and yet the result was that they had actually been severed from Christ. So this seems to present at least one example that it doesn’t necessarily take a willful act of defiance in order to be cut off from Christ.
My question is this... Does our sin lead us to hell after we are born again? How many sins did Jesus forgive and cover with the power of His blood? Can I crawl out from under His blood?
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
@@IAmisMaster yep Christians don’t go to hell (false Christians do & suffer more than the average person) Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
no we cant go to hell because Jesus forgave us all our sins. that's why we came to him in the first place. because we knew we were sinners. Colossians 2:13 “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;” all means everything in it's entirety. past present and future.
@@snackpup yes all sin is forgiven but Holiness is required so repentance is required YOU ARE NOT FORGIVEN IF YOU DONT REPENT IF JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS WHY REPENT? Repentance is the way provided for us to become free from our sins and receive forgiveness for them (We are not forgiven unless we Repent). Sins slow our spiritual progression and can even stop it. Repentance makes it possible for us to grow and develop spiritually again. The privilege of repenting is made possible through the Atonement of Jesus Christ/ So both Belief in Jesus and Repentance are needed. See 1 Corinthians 6:9 Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Another thing I’d like to point out is that the drawing from The Father in John 6 is obsolete now. Jesus said that during His ministry but in John 12:32 He said “when I am lifted up I will draw all men to Myself”. This drawing has replaced the drawing that was taking place during His ministry and this drawing is thru His gospel.
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
I’m at the 44:23 mark reflecting on the initial responses. In regards to the example of a son being born in a family, how can his father deny him.? Well in the Old Testament, didn’t they stone to death children who “disobeyed” their parents? In this example hasn’t the son been cut off eternally, no longer inherited the rewards of his father?The earthly to path leading to Salvation is about who will obey God’s commandments. Who will be obedient and endure to the end. This is what Jesus talked about in Matthew. How do you know who is or will be saved? The obedient ones who are producing fruit “good works.” And the good works are coming from the Holy Spirit within us so that we cannot claim it as if we produced ourselves, but by the power of the Holy Spirit where only God gets the glory.
THE NARROW WAY 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
“I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me.” ? Jeremiah 32:40 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, “who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory.”. ??? Ephesians 1:13-14
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I just like to go right to Jesus. And they shall NEVER PERISH… Never- not ever; at no time; in no degree; not under any condition Perish- to become destroyed or ruined
Zechariah 11:10 shows that God can break a covenant if he chooses. In Jeremiah he divorced Israel also. The everlasting covenant is just like everlasting life. Life is the noun, everlasting is an adjective describing the life. The life is eternal…not necessarily your possession of it.
For people who are on the "you can lose your salvation" side. How do you know if you lost it? How many times can you lose it and get it back? Salvation was never worked for or earn in a tough way. So why would you think you have to maintain a certain level of holiness to not lose it.
You ask, "How do you know if you lost it?" Simple. When you fall away, having a sinful unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God (Heb 3:12) and have no desire to ever return. You ask, "How many times can you lose it and get it back?" Simple. Zero - according to Heb 6:6. You ask, "So why would you think you have to maintain a certain level of holiness to not lose it." Simple. We DO NOT think we have to maintain a certain level of holiness to not lose it. It's not about maintaining anything. It's all about being in Christ. Jesus said, "Remain in me and I will remain in you." He also said you cannot bear fruit unless you remain in him. He also said that if you do not remain in him, you are like a branch that is thrown away, withers, is picked up, thrown into the fire, and burned. I can guarantee that you are not saved yet. You may have the promise of salvation and eternal life, but you have not arrived there yet. You must put off your perishable body and put on the imperishable. Until that day, you have not yet received full salvation. Along the way, Satan will seek to destroy you, sin will try to deceive you, and love of the world will try to draw you away. It is only those who endure to the end that will put on the imperishable. (Rev 2:7, 11, 17, 25-26, 3:5, 12, 21; Matt 24:13, 10:22, Mark 13:13, and Rom 11:17-21!)
BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@thereturn2361 In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (he was planning on repenting later). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Salvation is conditional otherwise everyone would be saved. Jesus's Yoke is easy and his burden light. You must be yoked to Christ and you take on a certain burden to become a disciple of Christ. Only disciples will be saved. Disciples are disciplined.
@@slightlyup3485 I have some underlying health issues which can lead to premature death, so I heard about fasting can help fix many issues so I decided to give it a go by dry fasting (no food or water) I could only do it for 1-2 days a week without feeling too weak, but a few months in my heart started racing and it let weaker and weaker. When I would eat something unhealthy it would race hard. One night it was racing hard and a tall figure in white appeared and was praying towards the picture of Jesus in my room, he said something like “please don’t let him die from a heart attack”, then soon after he disappeared and I heard the audible voice of God tell me some stuff then that voice stopped then I felt my body being lifted and life being pumped back into my heart and I was healed thank God, Jesus is God and He is very loving and a miracle worker.
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@@CalebA585 yeah i had to straight up ignore verses in romans saying the jews were not done away with in order to be a calvinist. i knew about the verses but i just ignored them!! i had to ignore them or else calvinism made no sense (covenant theology)
@@snackpup Calvanism never made sense to me, it seems to go against the Bible in many ways. Like you said, they ignore much of scripture to come to their conclusions.
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a peach tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces peaches is the peach tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian. Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I gave up in that part of my life and slept around for a couple years. The Spirit told me if I go back I will die basically. I’ll never reach Gods will in my life at least. He def scared me. I was shaking. I did sin. Enjoyed it at the time. But then after a week or so I would always get so sad and weak and have to stop.
I believe in OSAS but I prefer to call it Once Born Again Always Born Again (OBAABA). The clearest verse supporting OBAABA is from the Lord Himself. Jesus states in Matthew 7:23 “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” The word “never” in Strong's Concordance (G3763) is defined as “neither at any time or nothing at any time.” How could a “previously” saved person who did not repent and return to their belief in the Lord's work at the cross be “never known”? If one loses one’s salvation Jesus could have stated: “I once knew you” or “I knew you at one time” or “You turned away from Me”. Jesus could also have eliminated the phrase “I never knew you” and said “And then will I profess unto them depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Remember, “never” is as definitive as is “eternally” saved. His Word specifically states that we can never lose His imputed righteousness which guarantees our eternal salvation. God sends the Holy Spirit as a preserving seal to lock in our faith, as an authenticating seal to validate our sonship, and as a protecting seal to keep out destructive forces. The point is that God wants us to feel secure and safe in his love and power.
@AseyFilmsey yes but your flesh will have to deal with the consequences of sin. God saved your spirit not your flesh. and you gotta pay sin those wages. wages of death
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In order to take out emotion, I outlined every argument/answer then went back and looked at the black and white in front of me. When you take out the intonations and facial expressions and have the words they say, it’s so much clearer. (I’d love to take credit for this idea but I learned it in debate classes. It’s served me well over the years.)
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
if you have to do the commandments after you get saved to stay saved then where is the salvation? you had to do the commandments before you were saved. and you have to do them after you are saved. what are you saved from??? you're still on the same treadmill...
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a strawberry tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces strawberries is the strawberry tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian. Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363no way! i am saved by the blood of Jesus 100% no works must show! if you want to be left behind at the pre trib rapture then be my guest. i will be rooting for you from heaven to endure to the end !!
@@snackpup Pre trib rapture is correct but if you live in sin you will notbe raptured In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 on the contrary if you put your faith in your works you will go to hell!! Don't forget! It's faith + nothing in Jesus finished work on the cross he paid it all 100% with his blood!!! Without his blood you are not saved !!! Remember I warned you !!
@@snackpup If you tell everyone that you are a mechanic but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a mechanic? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian buy name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian.
For anyone who says that the doctrine of eternal security is a license to sin, what you are really saying is that you only obey the commandments out of fear that you will go to hell. Imagine obeying the commandments not out of fear or due to threats, but out of love for righteousness and love for God.
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a peach tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces peaches is the peach tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian. Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 First, regarding your comment about worldly Christians, there were times when Paul told the Christians he was writing to that they were worldly and carnal, but he still called them brothers. Second, in regard to the Matthew 3:10, there was a time when I interpreted it as you do, but now I actually don't think it has anything to do with salvation. It was a comment made to the Jews in regard to the coming destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, and a final call for national repentance to encourage God to intervene on Israel's behalf. (This is not a novel idea. A lot of biblical scholars see it that way.)
@@sorenpx Fake Christians go to hell, the carnal mind is emnity against God, enemiesw of God go to hell not heaven In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
So I guess you also ignore “the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” as well… ? What’s the point of fearing the Lord if you believe that no matter what you do you are saved?
@@highwired7781 It may do you well to research the word translated "fear." It could also be translated as "reverential awe." In any case, believers in eternal security don't say that God will not discipline his children, or even that he won't discipline them in severe ways. They only say that God won't torment his own kids in hell because they become unruly. Not sure if you're a father, but does that make sense to you? Would you torment your own children forever because they act up?
I'm listening to this debate right now. It is possible for a Christian to go thru a very difficult situation, get so mad at God that Christian aggressively rebels at Him and runs away - lost again. But I don't believe that aggressive rebellion is necessary to be lost again. I believe that most of the time, salvation is lost due to passive neglect or distraction. Hebrews 2:1 warns us to not drift away due to neglect. In Galatians 5:1 Paul warns us to let ourselves go back into bondage again. We must live and walk with Jesus moment by moment, day by day.
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Again your salvation depends on you and not Jesus. Eternal life means temporary life to self rightous people depending on their works to save them. Jesus just isn't enough for you. Those are the Lord Lord look what I did in your name crowd
I am not sure the complication. Is this not correct? If one turns to Jesus, they are saved. If they reject Jesus, they are not.....if they have turned to Jesus then reject him...they are into the category/group of those that reject Jesus. If you Love Jesus, you will keep his commandments. If we turn to Jesus, we are 100% assured that he is able to save us (it's not Jesus plus what we can do). We don't have to worry about Jesus living up to his promises. If we are his, he WILL save us. But it seems pretty clear we all have consequences to our choices and actions, regardless of if we are in Christ or not. We step into eternity when we die. We are not in eternity on this earth. When we die, it's final. We are under judgement if we are not in Christ and this will be condemnation as none have lived up to the standards required OR we are in Christ and he will save us from condemnation but we are still judged on our works, but this is for rewards for how we behaved and what we did with what the Lord gave us. Is the bible not clear in teaching this?
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian. 1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
@@theodoreritola7641 The Bible talks about being blot out from the nook of life, you can't be blot out unless you were written first In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
if u dont repentJ Jesus christwill tell uto depart from HIM HE NEVER KNEW U, I KNOW THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS REDEEMED ME ,DO U KNOW IF HE HAS U ? I HOPE U DO BY 2 MORROW
Most Protestants believe that Christians will never lose their Salvation (OSAS - Once Saved Always Saved) based on Romans 4:8, "BLESSED is the one whose sin the Lord (Christ) will never account against them."... Furthermore, most Protestants say that the Elect given by the Father (God) to Christ Jesus will never ever lose their Salvation." (ref. John 6:37-39)... It seems to me those Elect given by the Father (God) to Christ Jesus to keep had lost their Gift of FREEWILL... for God will and must not FAIL... which means those Elects given by God to Christ Jesus, guarantees that they could not make any sin or if they did sin, those sins will not be accounted for them for Christ washed them with His blood until the end of their lives on Earth so that they could be SAVED... as if No FREEWILL for them in reality... But the Bible did not support this assumption... for St. Matthew said, "Anyone who PERSEVERES and ENDURES until the end will be SAVED." (ref. Matt. 24:13)... St. Paul wrote to Timothy before he was beheaded, "I run to the fullest, finish the race, and I have kept the FAITH." (ref. 2 Tim. 4:7)... Logically speaking, why will the Elects given by God to Christ need (HAD) to PERSEVERE, ENDURE, FINISH THE RACE, and KEEP THE FAITH... if God will not let them commit any SIN accountable to them until their last breath on earth to be SAVED, for God must/should not fail?... The word "BLESSED" is an adjective that gives/indicates conditions on how to be BLESSED... How?... Christians who persevere and endure to the end are called BLESSED... those Peacemakers are called BLESSED... those who hunger and thirst and poor in spirits are BLESSED... those who have not seen but believe are BLESSED...etc... (The Beatitudes) In Conclusion, Protestants are entitled to their own Opinions and Beliefs... but they were definitely wrong in their interpretation of the Biblically TRUTH without compromise... Christians can lose their Salvation, but those who persevere and endure till the END will be SAVED because they are BLESSED."... Praise be to God in Christ... Amen.
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian. 1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
to @thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn343... there are lots of normal people who are truly licensed/registered Architects, Engineers, Doctors, Nurses, etc, who end up doing another job/work NOT RELATED to their professional skills... but it does not mean they can not claim or tell or be called/address as Architect, Engineer, Doctor, etc... I have a friend who is a Registered Nurse end up doing REALTY BUSINESS for life... it does not mean she is no longer a skilled Nurse, but she still can use her skills, knowledge, and nursing profession in her own family, relatives, and friends without being paid for... Some people are "JACK OF ALL TRADE." Regarding 1 John 5:18... is all about CHRIST JESUS born of God who does not SIN... the Word/Logos was in the Bosom of God in the beginning, and God in such a way gave birth or let the Logos/Word come out from God's bosom... God said, "You are my SON, today, I have BEGOTTEN You" ...(ref. Hebrews 5:5 / Acts 13:33 / Psalm 2:7). It is not about Christians with Born Again Spirit, for all (mankind) have SINNED and fallen short of the Glory of God. (ref. Romans 3:23-26)... Amen.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
@@Titus2_13 it is dangerous when people become complacent with their walk with Christ and uses the doctrine to continue on sinning because they believe that they will always be saved no matter what they do.
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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Once saved always saved is not biblical. I think those that believe in this teaching errantly follow John Calvin's belief. The thing that is eternal and makes salvation eternal is Christ's work alone. What Jesus did on Calvary is what people need to focus on and not a commitment made by a human. We do not lose our "Free Will" when we accept Christ. The Lord will keep us even in our struggles with certain sins if we will endure the process. That is the key. We must endure the process until the end. No one can pluck us out of the hand of God, but we can surely walk away if we chose to. God did not make us be automatons; otherwise, our love would be a program of some sort. He wants us to genuinely love Him because we genuinely love Him. Again, once save is to appease those that have fear of losing their salvation, but they need not be worried because what Christ did is good forever. All one has to do is stay in Christ. That is the difference. Thus, through Christ's eternal work a person can be saved eternally.
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE) Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
scriptures that prove if your a “christian” and then leave, you didn’t lose salvation, you never had it. (Proveing once saved always saved) 1 John 2:18-20 Warnings Against Denying the Son 18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They left from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but them leaving showed that none of them even belonged to us. 20 But if you have an anointing from the Holy one, you know the truth. an antichrist means someone who is not of God, against him, they were “of God” and then “became” against God, but they never were of God because someone who was wouldn’t have left, one of the 10 commandments is “do not put any gods before me” and while we are human and commit this many times, a true born again christian wouldn’t want to mentally commit this sin and mentally leave, you were a fake, just like how you think a fake friend is there for you, but he’s actually against you, is the same way how you were a “christian” and then committed treachery, (betrayal of God) you never was for God, you just acted like it for a little while, but God sees through, even if you die when you was “believing” you wouldn’t make it, because you never were of God, even when you did “believe” you was, this proves it. Matthew 7:23 then i will tell them, depart from me, for i never knew you. so if God knew you and then stopped knowing you, why would he say, “for i never knew you” he would say for i used to know you, but he says NEVER did i know you, if you lost salvation and God says this, then your calling him a LIAR, you are deceiving yourself if you become a “christian” and then stop calling yourself one, it clearly states in this scripture of the bible that they left, but they never even were of us, in other words, they stopped being christian, but they never were a christian to begin with, because a real one wouldn’t leave, if your truly reborn again the holy spirit in your heart would bring you back, even if you backslide, but if you leave and don’t look back, you never was reborn again, even when you “believed” you were fooling yourself the entire time, this scripture proves it. James chapter 1:22-24 22 Do not merely listen to the word, and deceive yourselves. Do what it says. if you stop doing what it says and never truly gave your life to him, you have fooled yourself into believing you were saved, even when you was doing the things, do all the works you want you need to be born again to make it to heaven, and you can’t become reborn and then become unborn and go back into the world, it’s either you were reborn again, stood in the word even, if you backslided, you eventually came back through the Holy Spirit guiding you, or you left and didn’t look back, and never changed to begin with, you tested the Holy Spirit and decided that wasn’t for you. this proves what I’m saying. 2 Peter 2:20-22 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A person that is washed returns to the mud.” it says they are worst off in the end then the beginning, because in the start they didn’t know the word, then they got into the word, knew the truth, but still rejected it in the end, now they are going to get punished even worst, because they knew the truth, and knew what they were told to do, but never was in it because they left, as 1 John says, “if they leave they never were of us to begin with” so here’s the final conclusion. you never were God‘s reborn again child if you leave, you didn’t lose salvation, you never had it, you can’t be sealed in the word, and then become unsealed, that makes no sense and would be God lying, once your sealed it’s a done deal, no matter what happens eternal life starts once you are sealed, even on earth, you cannot break a seal, if you believe you can your doubting God‘s power.
@@its_me_christopher_16 Many confuse Christ eternal work through His death, burial and resurrection. This means if I keep my faith in His finished work I am saved forever. Thus, it is impossible for one to lose their salvation in such a case; however, people that believe in John Calvin’s theory confuse a human commitment with an eternal act. There is no comparison. Christ work IS ETERNAL, but our commitment can change because we humans change like the wind. Satan and all his angel were saved but after losing their commitment they were kicked out of heaven.
Nowhere in The Bible is there even one example of a Christian loosing their Salvation . The Bible says we are sealed with The Holy Spirit untill The Day of Redemption, not temporally sealed etc. Your Salvation is not based off works or your performance as a Christian. Salvation is a supernatural gift from God that you can't undo . All past present and future sins were already forgiven by Jesus Finished work on the cross for Christians. Jesus paid in full your sin debt for eternity. You can't be condemned. The Bible says there is therefore no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. The Bible says those who do not believe are already condemned. Now when a person becomes a Christian they still have a sinful fleshly body and still willfully sin in the flesh but the new spirit man that your given when you become a Christian does not sin . We are given Christ righteousness and we get to Heaven not based off works but God's righteousness allows us entrance into Heaven. The Bible doesn't teach a Christian can loose their Salvation. The Bible does have warnings for a Christian and encouragement to live a life pleasing to God. Most all of the verses people like yourself will use to say a Christian can loose their Salvation are always taken out of context and not even understood. So you all will use those verses as proof text but none of them say a Christian can loose their Salvation. A Christian can loose fellowship with God and get chastised but that's because we are Children of God just as The Bible says.
@@JohnCGUNSNFREEDOM you are right by saying your salvation is not based on works. It’s not your good or bad works that saves you. It’s based on Christ’s work; which is eternal. If once in was true God wouldn’t have ever allowed Satan and the angels that rebelled to be lost. He is a just God and not a respect or of person. He is always the same. He changes not. People don’t need to be afraid of losing their salvation. It doesn’t work like that. A person has to reject Christ and that can happen. We are married to Christ, but just like one’s unfaithfulness or one simply walking away from the relationship, this can end it. People divorce all of the time because they change. God won’t force anyone to love Him. If that were the case He could have taken our free will and made us to be robots. No, He didn’t do so; rather He gave us choice. Just like the prodigal son, if we want to walk, He will let us go. I have a friend that we once shared great fellowship, but he has forsaken the way of Christ. He divorced his beautiful wife and is living with a woman in Korea. The good thing is God will accept him back if he repents, but if not, he will surely not be welcomed into the kingdom. Then too, when we read the Bible we must never lose sight of God’s perspective. God doesn’t think like us and His ways are not like ours. God is not trying to prove anything for He knows everything. It is we mere human that are filled with debate because of our biases. For instance, you said we are sealed unto the day of redemption. What does this really mean? Obviously to you it means once this happens anyone that receives Christ is saved for ever, but if you be honest it could mean something else altogether. It’s your reasoning or traditional perspective that causes you to think the way you do. However, that verse that you mentioned isn’t saying what you think. Thus, it is the Lord’s intent for us to remain in Christ until our redemption or at the time of the Rapture. He is not saying we are sealed forever. Then too, why would Paul say this (Now the Spirit speakers expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM THE FAITH, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons). I already know that my words won’t change your thinking. Yet, I pray the Holy Spirit will move upon you. Otherwise, If you want to continue to believe that once saved always is valid that is your choice. It won’t change your place in Christ.
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian. 1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
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@@JustATanneriteDummy The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@kimwestwood8840 In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Your "works" shall still be judged for rewards or lack thereof, so yes, there are still eternal consequences, but your salvation is secure in Christ. the-spirit-of-elijah.blogspot.com/2011/05/can-eternal-life-be-lost.html
Exactly! If you fall away and then come back, you are forgiven. If you fall away and stay away, you are Luke warm or cold and you’re burned with the tares
@@edricheson How do you MAKE the Holy Spirit leave your body if you "fall away" when He clearly told us, "I will NEVER leave or forsake you?" Truth is, you can't and He cannot lie. If you have been born again, the Holy Spirit resides in you, and has sealed you. He will NEVER leave you. Our salvation is kept by Him, not us.
@@edricheson If we can do as we please, than what was the purpose of Jesus going to the cross? He did not die on the cross to manage sin but to remove it. We are new creatures in Christ or as Paul puts it "A new creation." Should we go on sinning that grace may increase? By no means!!!!!!"
@@ross19902008 BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first
Acts 16:31 and James 2:19 use the very same Greek word for believe, “pisteuson”. At 1:40 Alex falsely suggests that these verses contain two different words. I do agree that saving faith requires more than mere “pisteuson” though. It requires obedience and trust.
So far I’m not really liking how the debate is progressing. I’m 1 hour 22 minutes into the video and the eternal security side has been quoting passages that the conditional salvation side hasn’t been addressing. I feel like it needs to be more of an exchange of passages from each side and the opposing side addressing those passages then responding with their own passages. Two examples so far are Ephesians 4:30 and 1 John 2:19. Ephesians 4:30 can be responded to by quoting Ephesians 5 where Paul continues to elaborate on the message in chapter 4 and says to them “Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints; and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.” Ephesians 5:1-6 NASB1995 bible.com/bible/100/eph.5.1-6.NASB1995 The reason why these Christians who have been sealed with the Holy Spirit cannot be immoral is because if they do they will not have an inheritance in the kingdom of God. 1 John 2:19 should be responded to by quoting James 5:19-20 because the popular translation of 1 John 2:19 by those who support eternal security directly contradicts what James is teaching in chapter 5. 1 John 2:19 is about a specific group of people who were antichrists, they were teaching that Jesus is not God. The passage isn’t about everyone who falls away from Christ. James 5:19-20 is specifically about Christians who fall away from the faith. “My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.” James 5:19-20 NASB1995 bible.com/bible/100/jas.5.20.NASB1995 The reason James 5 cannot be about false professors is because it’s turning them BACK that saves their soul from death. Jesus said that they strayed/departed from the truth and if someone turns them BACK their soul will be saved from death. That right there contradicts what everyone keeps saying about 1 John 2:19. James 5:19-20 makes it clear that just because someone departs from the faith DOESN’T mean that they were not a true believer.
John 15:16 "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
You are misunderstanding that whole verse, obviously you don't know that God is omniscient meaning God knows all, so what it means is he's choosing us because he already knew we would choose him God is not taking away our freewill , so we have the freewill to choose God or not and God already knows that.
@@jericlamb2676 ST PAUL Remember St Paul rebuked the Churches, telling them to fix their ways. If once saved always saved was a thing he wouldn’t bother writing letters to the churches. Philippians 2: 12Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING
@@kalegallarde6369 LIMITS TO FREE WILL You are free to choose your actions but not free to choose the consequences. Somebody may choose to speed but the consequence of breaking the law is a fine. You can choose to live in sin and go to hell or repent and turn to Jesus and go to heaven. You decide how you will live your current life; God decides your afterlife. Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
I know a few people that truly love Jesus and accepted Him years ago as their saviour . But they cannot and have not separated themselves from sin . One of them believes because Jesus abolished sin with His blood , his past present and future sins are forgiven. So in his own words , it’s ok to fornicate ,lust and swear, I love Christ more then sin so for me it wasn’t difficult to choose Him over sin. Its extremely difficult and I fail often because no one on this earth can be sinless. Will my friend and I have the same faith when we cross over ?
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
Don't buy into this once saved always saved bs its not true and extremely dangerous when God says the path to heaven is narrow He means it so don't think oh I except christ in my heart and I'm free to go it's a relationship that he desires and through having a personal relationship with him that then shows through your life the way you speak and the way you live and you have to live the life which like God says it ain't easy and sure makes the path narrow
@@kalegallarde6369 yes absolute heresy WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Its impossible because we are born in the family of God an apart of his body my parents cant disown me so how can God I will always be apart of the family I was born in
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
The free will argument ( BTW I am neither Calvinist or Arminianin). That it's a violation is not well thought out Because what about in heaven? What about after glorification? Is it unfair that God makes it so that we can't reverse our position in Heaven? That it's a violation of freewill that we can't undo glorification? It's the same point with justification.
Better to be hot for the lord Than Luke warm or I will spew you out my mouth If back sliden you attract 7 times more evil spirts How can that then be called saved. If you say Matthew 12:31, “Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.” Had she, perchance, committed the unforgiveable sin? Not saved then utter thoses words I feel you are condemned, I have depression I did and even tho I tried and trying, I feel something is truely lost. So again damed you teach lukewarm feel good administration of the word It's evident what scripture says. Listen not too man. Don't matter how close too the Lord I feel I can be I'm not I have tried and trying It's just not there as it was before So trust the Lord will rip your name out of the book of life And you do not need to be evil too do so still I just belive in God and try just too be a good human but that's not going too help anyone. I listen to these talks but none truely convict me, in the spirt. If a Christian and saved to the work belive in all your heart walk away Your doomed🎯
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
I can not believe no one brought up romans 8:38-39?? That is the juggernaut to the someone believing you can forfeit your salvation. Neither present nor future will ever separate you from Gods love? So if someone falls away or even rejects God in the future than loses salvation. How is that possible in the present or future will not separate you? Tough
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@There is none Good but God John 3:16, Rev 3:16 so how I read the Bible is you become saved and God helps you overcome your sin. JESUS says come as you are. Without God's help we can never break free from our sins
@@IrishG-fs4fy Yes Jesus helps you a=to live Holy not sinful HOW DO I STOP CERTAIN SINS? James 4:7-8 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. First you need to pray to God and tell him of your struggle then submit it to him and when the urge to sin come resist it eventually you will lose the desire all together to do that sin! John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. REMEMBER WHAT YOU FEED GROWS AND WHAT YOU STARVE DIES
@@IrishG-fs4fy THE NARROW WAY 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
Speaking of the churches to which Christ talks to in REV. many don't understand that, we are always to look at CONTEXT (hermeneutics). For example; Hebrews 6:1-8. Hey! have you read the chapters preceding chapter 6? The context, who is He talking about/to? He is talking about 3 different groups of Hebrews who are part of some new christian churches but are NOT YET saved. 1st. group is the individual. 2nd group is those who have come to know Jesus(NOT born again just come to know Him). 3rd group is that they are NOT saved. How can people even debate something that is clear in scriptures. Salvation is a FREE GIFT from GOD and once it is given it cannot be taken away in that the individual is SEALED...Hebrews 2:1 warns us to not drift away due to neglect. In Galatians 5:1 Paul warns us to let ourselves go back into bondage again. Now, if that person still keeps committing sins, then that is another debate in which they will lose things such as joy, peace, self love /respect and so on. BUT NOT HIS FREE GOD GIVEN GIFT to which he has been sealed into eternal salvation. The devil will use this subject soooooo much to confuse born again Christians in order to keep them from bringing others to Christ and also from producing more good fruit. Do NOT BE DECEIVED by reading/studying the word of GOD in order to show yourselves approved before GOD. BTW SALVATION is REPENTANCE, no amount of works (repenting=works)will save anyone. The only thing that WE CAN DO but is NOT works is BELIEVE/TRUST... CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT. Rightly divide, OT and NT. Why is it so hard to understand such simplicity? Ringing bells but no love, making God a liar. Just because they simply don't have ears to hear and eyes to see.. Jesus was talking to OT JEWS: if you do not remain in me... CONTEXT...
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@@theodoreritola7641 I don't think you understood what her said at the market I gave. "Very rare Apostate" - someone who openly denies Christ. I think this is where outer Darkness comes in, which is eternal separation from God, but not a destroying of the soul, the former is worse.
Works is obedience. Obey the laws . Such a large number of books to just state just BELIEVE . The word tells us what will happen if we obey and also if we disobey. All of personal choice . You are HIS or NOT HIS . A son of man or a son of GOD .
THE NARROW WAY 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
@@theodoreritola7641 Ok you are wrong . You wash your little 5 year old boy today . Tomorrow he gets right back in the dirt . You don’t wash him anymore? No You wash him until he is old enough to know better than to get in the dirt . The Bible verse that supports this is 2 Peter 2:22 (KJV) But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. The Hebrew saw GOD’s great wonders , HIS miracles and yet they fell away and was denied entry . Now you think we are any better than they ? 1 Corinthians 9:24 (KJV) Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. What race have you ran that you got the prize before the race was ran . We are in the race of life , we must run it to the best of our abilities.
Eternal security, what a farce. David said 'restore to me the joy of my Salvation because Salvation only activates upon death, Salvation from punishment for sins.At 1:17:00 the man in black says wrongly that the Hebrews 3 Believers who fell away into sin were false brothers because they left. No, They were true brothers who returned to sin and by it were made fallen brothers. Also, he's misreading verse 12 - the evil heart is a thing that can manifest in the Believer, not a separate unsaved person with an evil heart all along. It seems most people mis-read Hebrews 6. It is not saying one who has fallen away cannot be won back. It says the gospel message cannot win them back.
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@@theodoreritola7641 Yes. A minority of born-again, regenerated Christians between the time of their conversion and their death choose not to repent of all sinning because they love their sin more than God's way. Jesus said you cannot serve 2 masters, you will always love one or the other. In Rev 3 alone Jesus twice warns that he removes people from the Book of Life (the Heaven-bound humans) and that he will spit the Christian from his mouth. Many times we are warned that we MUST remain in Christ, and remain in the vine (and produce also) or he will cut us off. That no human who lives in sin can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The Bible is clear, and it does not teach once saved always saved. Jesus' first sermon to everyone was the same and one word: REPENT. God's requirement has never changed, but today's Satan-corrupted churches are trying to mislead us into thinking that it has.
so your sayin u repented of all your sinng ? YOUR A LIAR AND U KNOW IT . THE only way to heaven is by bliving Jesus Christ forgave u of EVERY sin you will ever commit at 1 time john ch 3 vs16 u may as well mark over John ch3 vs16 and tell Jesus Christ by
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Mathew 24:44 "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
1 John 2:17 says “whoever does what pleases God will live forever.” It’s about living a Christ - like life. OSAS is a cop out to not fear the lord, to not do good for others, and to lead others astray. Do as God pleases. If OSAS were true, why aren’t we instantly beamed up to heaven the moment we believe?
@@theodoreritola7641 he might. You really don’t know, not fearing the lord does not equal knowing. That’s what it seems like OSAS is, is that you know the lord so well you don’t fear him and you can go out and willfully sin and think you’re going to heaven. Idk, most fathers check their children with attitudes, and I fear the lord, so I’m not going to over step by saying I know anything for certain. But i believe that there are several verses in the Bible instructing us to live Christ like lives, OSAS is like a cult that believes that the flesh is definitively weak and that trying to fight against sinful desires is impossible so just go out and commit adultery and never feel bad about it, have no conscious and expect to still be saved. I’m not buying it.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
For 1 thing u dont know me Greg or my sin life .we as Christtians we are saved only by my trusnsting in my redeemer Greg, and thats Jesus Christ only Greg my quistian is CAN JESUS CHRIST,,,,, UN.... REDEEM HIS CHILDREN PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE TELL EVERY ONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE
Matthew 18:6 But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Regardless of who you think this verse was dedicated to, either a regular child or a child like humble adult cristian believer, what do you think it would happen in the following circumstances: Let's say a faithful Christian preacher who happens to be OSAS believer, and preaches to many people about eternal salvation. What would happen to this preacher on Judgment Day if at least one of those people that heard those sermons decides to live a life in sin without consequences due to eternal salvation ends up in hell?
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It’s not rare at all Sad that you are selling people a false sense of security People are denying Christ by the way they choose to live after knowing and tasting His priceless gift
One of the speakers against osas side seemed to say salvation could be lost only by a willful rejection of christ. Just in case theres a brother in christ reading this who suffers with habitual sin but still holds his faith till the end
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
I was groomed at a private Christian school till 3rd grade in the panhandle of Florida. Apparently, I asked Jesus into my heart and said he was my lord and savior and asked for forgiveness when I was in 1st grade. I have no memory of this event at all.... and I'm an atheist now, I sure hope I don't go to Hell... Also, now that I'm an adult, work as an electrical engineer making bank, I have never donated any money to the church. I do donate to secular organizations that help the poor and needy though.
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 you show me that bible verse like it has power over me. Seems very threatening. You, and every pastor i know, will never get my tithing.
@@Kramer-tt32 I wouldn't lie to you as this is very serious God through the Holy Spirit has shown me several things relating to the afterlife with the purpose of convincing people like yourself. Stuff like Heaven and Hell, Angels, and evil Spirits the Lord Jesus (not worthy at all), a miracle happened to me that saved my life (thank you God) & so much more. I am more than happy to give further details.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I'm a good and kind person. I reject any and all religions. I don't hurt people, I donate to secular charities who I know don't proselytize. If you truly believe I deserve being tortured, forever, in Hell, for disbelieving in this god, who "talks" to you. I think you should mentally partake in who you should worship.
@@Kramer-tt32 Hell is for sinners if you have lied or looked with lust or stolen anything you to name a few you will be judged, your good works mean nothing foe salvation, a judge judges you on bad you do not the good so repent and believe the Gospel to go to Heaven otherwise separated from God in hell forever (forever is a long time to be in the wrong place)
Love what dr tackett said about both sides having strong verses… it’s so true. But now having heard what he said that the contradicting verses are for people who are false believers… I think that is way off… there are too many warnings and they are to believers. Hebrews 3:13 . See to it “brothers” and “sisters that none of you has a sinful and unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God…. It’s a warning to brothers and sisters… that’s just one example there are many more. And the verse in 1 John seems to be talking about the antichrists not regular believers in the church. Because before and after that verse John talks about antichrists. Also just a side note… try doing a study on the word “if” and see how it seems linked to salvation in some cases… just food for thought
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
It's not about God abandoning YOU. It's YOU walking away from the faith, becoming so caught up in sin [that leads to death], becoming deceived by doctrines of devils. Why else would there be so many warnings about staying in the faith; being careful, awake, aware!-- that we DON'T fall away. The Bible is clear!---a "believer" can; indeed, fall away and be thrown into the fire. Be careful!
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (he was planning on repenting later). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
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The following is an excerpt of a message given by H.A. Ironside in 1934: Eternal Security: Its Meaning - QUOTE: When we speak of the eternal security of the believer, what do we mean? We mean that once a poor sinner has been regenerated by the Word and the Spirit of God, once he has received a new life and a new nature and has been made partaker of the divine nature, once he has been justified from every charge before the throne of God, it is absolutely impossible that that man should ever again be a lost soul. Having said that, let me say what we do not mean when we speak of the eternal security of the believer. We do not mean that it necessarily follows that if one professes to be saved, if he comes out to the front in a meeting, shakes the preacher's hand, and says he accepts the Lord Jesus Christ as his Savior, that that person is eternally safe. It does not mean that if one joins a church or makes a profession of faith, is baptized, becomes a communicant, and takes an interest in Christian work, that that person is forever secure. It does not mean that because one manifests certain gifts and exercises these gifts in Christian testimony, that that person is necessarily eternally secure. Our Lord Jesus Christ said to the people of His day, as recorded in Matthew 7:21-23: "Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doth the will of My Father which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? And in Thy name have cast out devils? And in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." Such people then may have been very active in what is called Christian work - they have preached, they have cast out demons, that is, their influence has been such that men and women have found deliverance from satanic power through their ministrations in the name of Jesus, they have professed with their lips, they have accomplished many wonderful works, but they are found in that day among the lost, and when they plead their great activity and their earnestness in Christian testimony, the Lord says to them, “I never knew you." Notice, He does not say to them, "I used to know you, but you have forfeited My favor and I do not know you any longer." He says, "I never knew you." END QUOTE .
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Eternal security is the most dangerous heresy in Christianity of today. It aims on new Christians, freshly born again men and women, who need to learn to live by the Book. You are forgetting that even apostle Paul said that if he were not to keep his body in obedience, he could have lost his own salvation. Someone should have said to Paul that he should not worry, and no need to be obedient to Christ.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@KrscanskaApologetika And you I hope you have a blessed year but remember if the world gets dark that Jesus is the light of the world and can comfort you in this life and the next. When you repent and Believe in Jesus you will only regret that you didn’t sooner. Romans 10: 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
As a person that use to believe in once saved always saved,, the Lord showed me how i was wrong to believe this way even though the scripture appears to mean with a certain interpretation, and if your taught by a pastor that believes this. The Bible teaches us that we are saved by faith and not by works lest any man should boast, and the Bible also teaches faith without works is dead. There are two different works which are faith works and mans works. You can never be saved by mans works which if we believed this way you would have to sacrifice for your sins like they did in the Old Testament. So when someone says you believe in works and not the blood of Jesus for those that believe in repentance this is not true since we do not sacrifice for sins, but turn away from sins and believe in Jesus and his sacrifice for our sins. So what does the Bible actually teach on faith works? James 2:14-26 KJV 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. True faith will always have works. Why was Abraham justified by faith? Because of his works of faith by offering up his son upon the altar to show he had true faith. Abraham obeyed the Lord. Hebrews 11:7-11 KJV 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. what does Jesus say about those that do great wonders in his name but live in sin? Matthew 7:21-23 KJV 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity(sin). Not that anyone is perfect, but there is a difference between willfully sinning not caring because you know Jesus's blood covers you, and godly sorrow of sin and turning away from it even if you have done the same sin before. You never stop running to Jesus when you sin. Think about all the testimonies you have heard from people that lived in sin that were believers and beat those sins because of Jesus, and also turning away way that sin(repentance). Not willfully sinning without care, but though godly sorrow to repentance. 2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV 10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
So the truth is you cant get to heaven by your works(mans works), but only by faith(faith works) in Jesus by his blood that covers all sins(no more sacrificing for sins). 1 John 1:9 KJV 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
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Del Tackett actually goes STRAIGHT to the text and gives the xegesis of it to the original readers of the letter and doesn't say things like "I feel " ..." I think" or such phrases. He gives the context and exegetes.
I can’t remember. Was he advocating eternal security? I am with Pastor Mark and Tony Cook on this one. I believe that we have eternal life as long as we remain in Christ. Two peter two, Jude, Hebrews 6 verses 4:6, and especially 10 versus 25:29 persuade me. I totally get that both sides of the Scriptures and there are definitely godly men and women on both sides of the issue, but even one Timothy 4:1 says that in the last days some shall depart from the faith. How can you depart from something that you’ve never been a part of? Anyhow… We’ve all heard the debate. I know one thing. I’m not gonna risk it.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Keep in mind that I came here to get answers to a question, with no preconceived notion. In the end, I respectfully disagree with your statement. I outlined the arguments as they were presented and when you write out the question and then the rabbit trail answers, he never directly answers anything but instead "gets passionate" and speaks verbosely sorta around the subject kinda but it all sounds good. I got so frustrated in the sections where I was noting both him and Alex. I kept saying "please just answer the question". Again, definitely not arguing, just suggesting you go back through and outline the conversations and see what you come away with. (Because I kept pausing, it took 6 hours to do it the way that I did, but I am not sorry because I got answers that I had been looking for.)
Over the last few days I’ve seen so many videos of people who are “deconstructing” their faith. Yes, absolutely they were saved at one point, but they have chosen to simply renounce and walk away. So will Jesus force them into heaven? No! They made their choice to walk away. No one can say they were “never saved”. The parable of the sower speaks of this. And if Jesus can Vomit you out from in Him!? Were u ever in Him to be vomited out? Absolutely. Once saved always saved, like the “pre trib” rapture, saved by faith alone, sola scriptora are 100% non biblical. The works u will quote will be works of the law that we don’t need, we do however need works of love.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
If Man will think he can lose his/her salvation will bring them to heaven because they are aware of the consequences of Sin,but if man will think he cannot lose his/her salvation whatever they will Do it will lead them to hell because they are not aware of their sin,and let us remember that the tactics of satan to bring human to hell is to take away our fears in God and Sin,as what he did in the Garden of Eden
BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 back sliding is mentioned once in the bible in Jeremiah , just once and that was under the conditional old covenant, not the newer better one. NOT ITS NOT A LICENSE TO SIN as Paul explains, but because you might fall time to time doesn't mean you lose your salvation. Rediculous. I'm with Corey on this one and many other OSSS Once Saved Sometimes Saved is a false Gospel and is not good news ever and backloads salvation with works and hinders the true gospel of grace and produces theologies like Roman Catholic, seventh day Adventists, worldwide church of God , mormons and Jehovah witnesses etc. Very destructive is OSSS vs OSAS.
The problem i have with once saved always saved is the false sense of security that for SOME could lead to compromising with evil and feeling comfortable doing so. Also.. to say that just because we trusted in Jesus in the beginning doesnt mean we will remain faithful to the end which is why we are told to endure and persevere and abide. I know people dont like the way it sounds but our salvation is conditional. Otherwise unbelievers would be saved. I know its through Christ that i have the opportunity to be saved but he asks us to do a few things but they arent burdensome they are just different than the things the world does and we need to be very aware of the things expected of us and of me as a disciple of Christ. 2 Timothy 2:13 says we can be faithless but Jesus remains faithful. Its not Jesus's faith that saves us. Its our faith.
WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I will say this. Because of various passages, I do not believe in once saved always saved. I believe that apostasy as possible. But But it doesn’t bother me if people believe in the perseverance of the Saints. This is the teaching that all genuine saints will persevere to the end, but it does not teach that you can live anywhere you want without the discipline of the Lord and still make it. I can live with that. I can live with the teaching that if you never have any fruit of the spirit and you never live for Christ that you were never born again. I can see what these brothers and sisters are saying, but I believe if someone teaches that you can live however forever and never exhibit fruit, but you were still saved, that is super dangerous. Those people seem to make no room for the genuine warnings of Scripture. These brothers are not doing that. I do however believe that they are reading into the warning texts that these are not genuine Christians because they have to say that to support their doctrine. God preserves those who persevere.
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Thank you for posting. Illuminating I don't think this was brought up...? If God can blot out one's name out of the book of life, what does that say about His omniscience?
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 the question still stands, what does it say about God's omniscience? (1John 1:8 [KJV]) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (1John 1:9 [KJV]) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1John 1:10 [KJV]) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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In my humble opinion…. The most secure salvation would include the continued possession of freewill of the saved individual to reject their salvation. It is the only path that maintains the concept of being able to know your own standing (saved or not-saved) with God at all times of your life. If a believer can’t reject their salvation… Then all believers are just people waiting to see if they believe until they die (truly saved) or reject their salvation at some point and become apostates who were “never saved.” Worse yet, they could go their whole lives deceived into thinking they are followers of Jesus, only to hear Jesus say he never knew them at the end. Without the ability to reject salvation, how can a person ever truly know that they aren’t a deceived apostate waiting to be exposed? Only one side of this debate puts the individual into the position to KNOW their standing with God. God wants us to KNOW. God wants us to be secure.
Interesting. Think of the early Christians. They refused to recant their faith unto death. Meaning there is weight to our public testimony. Irrespective of our public behavior. you said "The most secure salvation would include the continued possession of freewill of the saved individual to reject their salvation." This is an important distinction. One must realize what they are at risk to lose to appreciate the loss so to speak.
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
1:20:08 But you do want your will, because you want a real, meaningful relationship with God, and He wants one with you, hence Him,giving you free will. Even if you dont want it, God wants it for you.
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian. 1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 They're not exclusive. You can do both. We can't take 1st John out of context. Even Christians can sin. But allowing an enslavement to sin is clearly not good. Non repentance is clearly not good.
@@ethanrichard4950 Not just not good it will take you to hell In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
I believe that any messages that comes from Matt. Mark, Luke and John ( old testament). The messages are for the Jews not the Gentiles. The Church is under Paul's apostles. So you have to go by what Paul says. Peace
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Jesus said "I Never knew you", not I "Once" knew you. Those were never saved. How can Jesus say He never knew someone who once had the Spirit of Christ in them?
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
I'm a born again Christian. I'm in the OSAS camp. First of all....was King David saved? Did he do some things unpleasant to God? Answer to both....yes! So your life is not conditional towards your salvation. Jesus performs the goid work in you...until the day of redemption! Ephesians 1:13,14;4:30. Yes, you can't lose your salvation. John 10: 27-29 ( I'm paraphrasing) No MAN can pluck you out if the Father's hand, that includes your own self. We are born with flesh....so we all sin everyday in thought, word and deed...and so no flesh shall enter into heaven, therefore, I and believers will get a glorified body. Plus....in 1 John 3:9 tells us the child born of God( born again) doth not commit sin, which means that Jesus' seed remains in us, so God the Father sees Jesus in us rather than our sin. Jesus is our advocate! No...we cannot willfully renounce Christ cause scripture tells us Jesus REMAINS faithful. Matthew 7:21-23 people do not understand..... In verse 21 Jesus says...those who do the WILL of my Father which is in heaven will enter into the kingdom of heaven. So....what's the WILL of the Father on heaven? John 6:40 40 And this is the will of him who sent me this every one which seeth the Son and believeth on him shall have everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day. What's wrong with some and most people ( MANY, NOT FEW) is that their trusting in themselves and makes one think are they really saved in the first place? I don't think they are, they would be the ones Jesus tells...I never knew you in Matthew 7:23. Lastly....remember....it's not how we live...cause if that's the case, an Atheist can be good. We MUST decipher between salvific scriptures and discipleship scriptures, keep scriptures in context. Read scripture FOR scripture, rightly dividing the word of truth.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Lol... No one EVER has gone to heaven or hell and comes back to earth, I repeat...NO ONE goes to hell or heaven and comes back to earth to tell their story. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord... If you go you stay...which ever place it is. The difference between you and me is...I KNOW where I'm going.... 1 John 5:13 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God that YE MAY KNOW that ye HAVE eternal life and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. That's just by believing on His name!!! Most of ya'll don't believe the bible anyway. It's bad enough you had to like your own comment. You lordship people will just not get it...I guess that's the strong delusion that God puts on some people.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 You dont understand that the book of James was written to BRETHREN!! James 4:7 ( in other words) is saying that believing and trusting in God ( those of us who do this) have the POWER over the devil! There is no association of the light with the dark... You sound like you're trusting in yourself, you might as well be your own saviour. Which is what happens to those in Matthew 7:21-23 to those people in verse 22....they were saying Lord, haven't we prophesied in thy name, cast out devils I'm thy name, and done many wonderful WORKS!? They will hear, depart from me, I NEVER knew you... because we who are 💯 believing and trusting in Christ doth bot commit sin...1 John 3:9 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. Cause in verse 21 Jesus says those who do the WILL of the Father in heaven will enter into the kingdom of heaven. So....biblically speaking what's the WILL of the Father? John 6:40 40 And this is the will of him that sent me that every one which seeth the Son and BELIEVETH on him shall HAVE everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day . So it's for those who BELIEVE! Not believing and putting your faith in your works....it's putting 💯 of your faith in Jesus Christ ONLY!!
@@kathyhenderson8902 So Hitler believed in the name of the Son of God but He's in hell, countless people have seen heaven and hell REAL MEANING OF JOHN 3:16 AND THE WORD BELIEVE Most people do not understand John 3:16 , the verse says Believe in the only begotten Son. Most people think believe Jesus died for my sins and rose from the dead so I can have my sins forgiven and go to Heaven, that is true, but the verse is saying way more than that otherwise fake Christians would be in Heaven like Hitler, unrepentant sinners. (Wheat among the Tares, Sheep amongst the goats etc) Believe means to believe whom Jesus is, everything He did and everything He said. Jesus said you must repent (Luke 13:3) and He said strive (make effort) to enter by the narrow gate because many people will seek to enter and will not be able to , everyone in their right mind wants to go to Heaven but live in Sin and will go to Hell, so repent today.
A false doctrine that has the potential to dam ones soul. And yet there is tremendous respect for one another.when the debate is over we can all sing kumbaya together on our way to the restaurant. It’s time for judgement to begin with the household of God
People often say, “I’m not hurting anyone so it’s ok to sin (lying, stealing, sexual sins, disrespecting parents etc)” The same God who said to love your neighbour first said to love Him to the best of your ability. If you carry on sinning, then you do not love God but are selfish like the devil so you will be joined to your father in hell or repent of your sins and believe in Jesus as God so Jesus adopts you as His child and you will join Him in Heaven forever.
Sure. No one can snatch them away from His hand. Question is; if they decide to leave by themselves. [John 10:27-29] 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
FREEWKLL & OSAS Christianity is a lifestyle of obedience and faith in Jesus. You can freely choose not to obey so you are not a Christian. The Bible literally says one can lose their salvation (see below) Mark 8: 36 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and LOSES his own soul?
@@samirpernell2136 People underestimate hell, it is bad because it is separation from God. In a vision I was shown a perron who claimed to be Christian but started fornication (premarital sex), He died relatively young and went to hell forever (1 Cor 6:9). God’s holiness means He will not coexist with sinners forever therefore Repent (Luke 13:3) and have a relationship with Jesus.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Not all visions are of God. What you've just told me is incredibly dangerous behavior/beliefs. The devil comes as an angel of light as well. The human psyche is deceivingly wicked. Trust the word alone. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is not a salvation text. Inheritance is a REWARD IN HEAVEN. It isn't salvation. Colossians 3:24 24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ. You don't lose salvation for being a bad Christian, you lose rewards. You can't lose salvation at all. Believing you can is believing that your own good deeds and actions hold as much weight as the death of Christ and His blood. This is self righteousness, and having faith in your own performance and not faith that christ has you eternally sealed. This is why christ rejects those in Matthew 7:21-23
On which conditions does Jesus give "THEM eternal life" (John 10:28), and "THEY-will never perish" (John 10:28), and someone "will not snatch THEM" (John 10:28) out of His hand? On the conditions that THEY are part of His "SHEEP" (John 10:27), which "HEAR" His voice and "FOLLOW" Him. If one does not "HEAR" His voice, or does not "FOLLOW" Him, that one would not meet the required conditions anymore. The "(One) BEING-ABLE to-keep them not-stumbling and to-make-(you)-stand in-the-presence-of His glory without-blemish in gladness" (Jude 1:24). It is only written that the One is "BEING-ABLE" (Jude 1:24), not that the One will therefore do it unconditionally.
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If anyone's salvation could be lost, everybody's would be... Salvation is God's work and is a gift - once received, it is God that keeps us. we would be unable to keep ourselves...if we did, it would be a work. Works don't qualify us for salvation, therefore lack of works cannot disqualify us. The Blood Atonement is God's covenant with believers through the Blood of His Son. We are beyond Satan's grasp as far as our salvation goes...he knows this and his mission then is to deter us from witnessing to others and hinder us from serving God. God's in charge of salvation...not us. In all actuality, if salvation is not eternal, it is, by no stretch of the imagination, salvation. It would be Probation, not salvation.. .
By grace are we saved through faith and faith without works is dead. I hope everybody can agree with these things. You can not get to heaven through works but you can be lost without them. Faith is more than just believing. It starts with believing and the second part of faith is belief put into action. If a believer does not exercise their faith it can wane, become weak and eventually it can go out. Without faith we can't have belief so this is how someone can become lost after having come to the belief. Believing by itself is not enough as the Bible says, even the devils believe and tremble. Surely they will not be saved for believing however. The Holy Spirit does not take people by force. The spirit ministers to the believer. The believer still has choice. They can choose to not continue in habitual sins and by rejecting sin their faith grows stronger and their relationship with the Spirit grows stronger. Or they can choose to continue in habitual sins. Continuing in habitual sins and ignoring the voice of the Spirit is then the believers works. Those works will cause the voice of the Spirit to that person to weaken and without the good work of rejecting sin the faith weakens and will eventually go out. That person will be lost. A believer with faith can and will still at times fall to sin. Once that happens the Spirit quickens the believer to come to repentance, repair their relationship and continue to move forward. As a believer successfully resists sin the temptation to sin weakens and the believer is strengthened in their faith by their good work. If the believer chooses to not repent, repair and resist they can and likely will fall to that sin temptation over and over and it will become habitual. That will kill faith and the believer, if they don't come back to repentance will be lost. That has been that believers choice to cherish that sin instead of their relationship with the Spirit. This is why we never stop repenting of sin. If you were once saved always saved you would never be required to repent of sin again. Matthew 16:27 - For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his FAITH? Well no. This verse says according to his works. May the Spirt of God guide your studies.
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a strawberry tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces strawberries is the strawberry tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian. Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
But now it is no longer I who do it but sin that lives in me. Rom 7:17,20.. You become a Christian and then sin shows up and we doubt our salvation and then we get born again and again and again. You get born again only once, how do you get unborn?
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian. 1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
From childhood. My cousin is a Christian. A faithful believer in Jesus Christ. Believes he is saved by his faith. After his college days. He became an atheist and rejected the existence of God. I wonder what happened to his salvation. Did he loose it? I want to help him come back to Christ. But he refuses and thinks i am crazy. He refuses to accept my prayers and thinks it is ridiculous to believe in Jesus Christ.
Believing isn't enough. Even Satan believes God exists. Jesus said a man cannot see the kingdom of heaven unless he is born again. So no matter how much studying, praying, thinking, serving... If you or him can't remember the day, the time, what you were doing when the Holy Spirit dwelt in you, you are not a "real" Christian. The experience is supernatural and unforgettable. I do not believe in eternal security. Matthew 24:13 Jesus says he who endures to the end is saved. 1 Corinthians 6 9-10...Can a Christian be gay? Paul says no and not only that all gay people will be in hell. All fornicators, all drunkards. He was writing to the church of Corinth, a Christian church. He is talking to believers. "Do not be deceived." Now why would he say that? To not be deceived! There are no atheist Christians! There's no homosexual Christians! You are in the faith until the end or you're not. There's no drug addict Christians! My brother was one of them and killed himself on an od. He thought he was good with God. Actually he went around telling people God was on his side. My mom doesn't believe he is in hell. I said then who are all these "bad" people going there that think they're good? No one goes to hell at the funeral home. Is it someone that murderers and doesn't repent and dies. Oh definitely. Okay well Paul says no murderers go to heaven. A drunkard is also a term for drug addict. You see it's always the other person. No mom can believe their kid was the bad one. No person wants to believe they are in err. Once saved always saved to me is Calvinist. There's nothing you can do God is going to save you even if you start a Satanic church.
Why should God let you into Heaven? Have you lied (even once in your entire life), looked with lust (sexual desire), dishonoured parents, stolen anything, had hatred towards someone, had premarital sex, adultery etc If you answered yes to any one of the above then you are a sinner like the rest of us. So, I ask you again, why should God let a sinner into Heaven? Sinners don’t go to heaven they go to hell, But we are blessed to have Jesus (God incarnate) die on the Cross and rise from the dead. If you Repent (forsake your sinful, unholy ways and live righteous instead) & Believe in Jesus as God, you will be seen as a Saint and welcomed into Heaven. John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved
@@Manbunmen65 HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED? Okay suppose you are right about Eternal Security. How do you know you are saved to begin with ( You’re assuming that you are)? Allot of people were raised Christian but live like the rest of the world lying, stealing, sexual sins, dishonouring parents etc So you aren’t saved from your sins, if sin has dominion over you. But by the power of Jesus, you overcome sin and God gives you a new heart where you seek after holiness (Born again). 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. Ronans 11:22Therefore, consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him.” Yes no one can pluck you from God’s hand, but you are free to jump out.
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Many will think there wheat But be soughted out in the chaff. Hold your salvation closest to you Otherwise you can lose it And i truely don't know if you can redeem it Just speaking my truths Over all Christian life feels empty now. And the church a lonely place As if geuinine, i look hard at this the churchs most should and thats everyone who calls themself saved.
REAL MEANING OF JOHN 3:16 AND THE WORD BELIEVE Most people do not understand John 3:16 , the verse says Believe in the only begotten Son. Most people think believe Jesus died for my sins and rose from the dead so I can have my sins forgiven and go to Heaven, that is true, but the verse is saying way more than that otherwise fake Christians would be in Heaven like Hitler, unrepentant sinners. (Wheat among the Tares, Sheep amongst the goats etc) Believe means to believe whom Jesus is, everything He did and everything He said. Jesus said you must repent (Luke 13:3) and He said strive (make effort) to enter by the narrow gate because many people will seek to enter and will not be able to , everyone in their right mind wants to go to Heaven but live in Sin and will go to Hell, so repent today.
A question I've had for many years is, if Satan was a perfect being and is lost, how can anyone be once saved always saved. my belief is you need have a day-to-day personal relationship with Christ. The belief that after you are saved you can do anything and never lose your salvation doesn't ring true.
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Most of the verses people use to try say you can lose your salvation are meant for the end time Jews. You will never understand the bible unless you use dispensationalism to rightly divide verses to the right people and time period. We are in the church age and are saved by grace and faith alone.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Once saved, always saved is a lie, or your pastor simply doesn't know what the Bible says. Here is a single scripture that tells us that we can, and many will, lose their salvation. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; KJV The "falling away" in verse 3 is people losing their salvation! IF YOUR PASTOR TELLS YOU ANYTHING ELSE THEN YOU SHOULD RUN FROM HIM AND STUDY THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF. These preachers are mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24:4-5.... THEY are the deceivers. Matthew 24:4-5 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. KJV Matt 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. In the scripture Matthew 7:21-23 the reason that Jesus said that He never knew them is because they refused to obey God... they refused to keep God's 10 commandments and they refused to keep God's sabbath. If you reas Exodus 31 you will see that it clearly says that that is how God knows His people... they keep His sabbaths.
Your not saved, your a Torah worshiper. Orthodox Jews in Israel today keep the law better then you and their not saved, because the law is a curse and cant save anyone. Faith in Christ JESUS alone saves and no exceptions ever. Because of Christ JESUS I am inside the sabbath and I keep it everyday from Sunday to Saturday. There is a difference between pretending to keep the sabbath like you do and being inside the sabbath forever. You dont obey the commandments anyway, why because you can not and others on their way to hell keep it better then you do so your work is not only in vain its not even good work when you dont do it perfectly. Your either saved from the law or you are required to keep it perfectly at all times always without exception . You dont understand salvation and the truth is not in you
BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@adamguy33 In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Jesus warned the disciples about falling away in the garden. They “fell away” and went to sleep after He said to keep watch. We’re they not saved still? Of course they were. Falling away doesn’t necessarily mean to lose salvation.
BLOT OUT The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 you seem to be in a lot of of message with a very strong opinion. How do you explain romans 8:38-39. Are you telling me in the present or future that we can be separated from God? It clearly states nothing in the present and nothing in the future can not and will not separate you?
@@IrishG-fs4fy If you are with the Lord, Jesus is clear in His word Matthew 7:21-23 KJV Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
@@IrishG-fs4fy If you don't love Jesus you will not go to Heaven Most people have heard “Jesus/God loves you”. Does that mean they have a relationship with God and will go to heaven? Depends on the individual. A relationship is 2 sided, you receive love and you give love back. God showed His love by suffering, dying on the cross and rising from the dead for you, now you show Love back by repenting of your sins (lying,, stealing, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) and believing in Jesus as your Lord and saviour so that Heaven is in your future not hell
SALVATION LOST Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
@@Foodforyoursoul022 If you live in sin you will go to hell like everyone else, the end times chuch is lukewarm , ine foot in the wold and one foot with God so manyof them go to hell In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
1:58:12 He talks about Brethren wondered from the truth, is he talking about brethren who stopped believing that Jesus Christ was resurrected because some jews around them during that time were still believing that Jesus Christ was not resurrected and that brethren had little faith to believe in what he believed 🤔🤔🤔
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT) Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him. [2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
"I got 4 preachers up here, y'all could be here till next week" Yep, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference to the "yes" or "no" question, which is "Once you accept Jesus Christ into your heart as your savior are you always saved?" Again, the answer is either yes, or it is no. And watching Christians point out contradiction after contradiction in their Bible not a single one of you has even truly questioned the "atheist" position, which is, could it be that possibly there is no god at all? Wouldn't that explain why we have one group of people who believe that Jesus is a god who claim that "yes, once saved always saved" and another group of people who claim to believe in Jesus as a god who say "NO! Once saved NOT always saved."? If Jesus is really a god he's clearly leading one of you astray, or letting the devil deceive you. As an atheist it's like watching two people argue over which trilogy is the "one true trilogy?" Is it Star Wars? Is it Lord of the Rings? Is it the Godfather? Truth is in the eye of the beholder.
GOD IS EVIL? God hates sin and when people don’t change (Repent) He has to release His wrath because they’re only going to get worse and do more harm to themselves and society at large. A judge today sentences people to death sentence as a last option (Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’) In the Old Testament God was constantly referred to as Psalm 145: 8 The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. Slow to anger means He gets angry eventually, God just doesn’t tolerate sin forever. Noah preached for 120 years about the judgement to come, and no one changed the land was filled with sexual sins, violence, wickedness of every kind. So after much patience God flooded the earth; but make no mistake it was with a heavy heart
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE) Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
There's 100% evidence of God, atheist is a religion on its own they have to believe that God is not real they go off their own faith in hopes what they believe is true.
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN? Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection. Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 if one is truly saved. That individual will walk with God as God is in him. Scripture could not be more clear as to the insignificants of ones own works in regards to ones salvation. I would suggest those written about in you quoted scripture. To re-evaluate their position so as to receive the Holy Spirits guidance. Obviously they did not acquire it the first time around. All your Heart, All your Soul and All your Mind. Doesn't get any more serious than that.
Wow. This has been such a blessing to me in my life right now. I always condemned myself for falling into sin which led me away from God not understanding why God wouldn't leave me alone because I still felt his presence. He never left my side. About a week ago I called out to Jesus in my own frustrations asking him what am I missing? Where is the conviction to repent from the things I know is wrong? What happened? What am I doing wrong? Jesus give me your TRUTH! Within the same week I understood that I was trying to atone for my own sins instead of trusting in Him😢. Now I completely trust in the Grace of God knowing noone can snatch me out of his Hands. He will continue to do the work in me through Him!!❤
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Is this not a key difference between being under enlightenment or knowledge of who God is without being actually born again@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA BIG AAAAAAAAAMMMMMEEEEENNN Jesus Christ will never UN redeeme ANY ONE EVER WHEN U ,,,,,, BELIVE..... HIM HE KNOWS U PERIOD HE BOUGHT U WITH HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD
@@theodoreritola7641 🙌🫶Amen!
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363that’s falling away into false religion/money/bitterness. Not sins. Read psalm 89. It takes so long for us to overcome our iniquities.
This is by far the best debate on eternal security and I am inspired by the respect and love in the way it was done. Thanks for sharing
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
The problem I have with OSAS is that it sugarcoats Christainity. OSAS says that "Yes, I am saved but I do not have to worry about the choices I make because God is a God of love, happiness and butterflies." or "God saved me so I'm good to go. I have no more obligations as a follower of Christ but to live this life and then die." OSAS paints a pretty picture of love, positiveity, good vibes, and self-love but dismisses repentance or taking up our cross DAILY to follow Jesus.
@@ross19902008 Nobody born again has that attitude. I know of no one in my 30 years as a Christian that says ok I'm good now can live how I want. God has removed the heart of stone, which is the rebellious heart, and replaced it with a heart of flesh. OSAS is not a good description of eternal life and security. Here are some passages you may want to prayerfully consider. You also need to understand verses like " pick up your cross and follow me" are not salvation verses, but discipleship. Those are two different things in scripture. John 3 perfectly explains how to be saved. Revisit that. FIVE times Jesus tells us those who are His will never perish but have eternal life. Get yourself out of the way and look to Jesus, because ONLY He saves us, and keeps us. 1 Peter 1 Ephesians 1: 11-12
John 15:16
John 6:37-40
John 10:28
@@kimwestwood8840yes the prerequisite to being a Christian is to deny yourself and pick up your cross, SIN is extremely offensive to God, Christianity is not a license to sin but to live Holy
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Importance of Repentance
Look at the Order. Repentance & Remission of sins -Luke 24:47 (You are not forgiven unless you repent). Romans8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit (So in order not to be condemned you must walk according to the Spirit)
ST PAUL
Remember St Paul rebuked the Churches, telling them to fix their ways. If once saved always saved was a thing he wouldn’t bother writing letters to the churches.
PEOPLE WHO WON’T ENTER HEAVEN
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@@kimwestwood8840 SIN IS OF THE DEVIL, HOLINESS IS OF GOD
If you sin you are of the devil (1 John 8:44) when you ask God to change your life and you put in your own effort (James 4:7) then you are adopted into the family. God is Holy so you must be Holy, you need to enter the narrow gate and aim to be perfect as the Father is perfect; you will be sanctified and changed overtime and conformed to the image of Jesus. If you are born again you can still fall away ; Jude refers to it as being twice dead. Remember in revelation it states the devil makes war with those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ and keep the commandments of God. Now most people do one without the other; for instance, lukewarm Christians (Rev 3:16) have the testimony of Jesus but are living in intentional sin. Jews keep the commandments of God but do not have the testimony of Jesus. God requires both!
This was a great, mature, Christlike debate.
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
@Tableú That verse is more saying something like cut off the temptation. Hand & eye seem to suggest lust & masturbation. God hates that
HOW DO I STOP CERTAIN SINS?
James 4:7-8 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. First you need to pray to God and tell him of your struggle then submit it to him and when the urge to sin come resist it eventually you will lose the desire all together to do that sin!
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
You speak about backsliding. You say you can't backslide if you didn't slide forward to begin with- That is a FELLOWSHIP ISSUE, NOT a SALVATION ISSUE Jesus Christ is MARRIED unto the backslider. Jeremiah 3:6, 8, 11, 12, 14, 22, KJV.
The Corinthian church were the most carnal people and yet Paul called them BRETHREN.
A saved(BELIEVER) who backslides is STILL SAVED-FOREVER. They are still children of God. There are BELIEVERS who have backslid but they are still saved.
NOTHING shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord-Romans 8:37-39 KJV.@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
Thank you Pastor Mark, this debate was excellent 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. I pray this one be the first of many more. God bless you all!!!!
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
I agree Shirley.
@@seehisglory7 PEOPLE WHO WON’T ENTER HEAVEN
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
JESUS VIEW ON SIN
If sin wasn’t offensive to God, then why would Jesus say this in Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire. And also to the woman caught in Adultery Jesus forgave her but said “go and sin no more”. God hates sin.
OSAS-OSAS is built on a FALSE premise: the word "saved" That word is not defined correctly by OSAS clergy. In the new testament there are 2 similar words ...salvation and saved. Salvation in the GREEK is soterion which means to deliver from. Saved in the GREEK is sozo. which means to heal, to make whole. A person who believes about the death, burial and resurrection of JESUS..or accepts the gospel or JESUS , or grace or forgiveness or pardon is not healed or transformed in character just by acceptance or assent to truth. JESUS teaches ,that the meek shall inherit the Earth, the pure in heart shall see God, a person's righteousness has to exceed that of the Pharisees. Heb 12:14..one must be holy. ALSO God's forgiveness is void if one does not forgive others . MATT 6 , MATT 18 See parable of soils and.....the word "IF" in the bible!!!!! THEN….. look at 1 COR 9:27 where PAUL , of ALL people, does not have eternal security. He explains in the next chapter.
@@bobreese4807 well stated….. OSAS is only good for the conscious of those that want to believe in this Calvinistic teaching. God doesn't imprison those that come to Him. If we desire too, He will allow us to walk away from Him.
We don't need a license to sin. We all do it anyway
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
And that's how you separate the Christians from the non Christians
I used to be a once saved always saved girl myself. Until the Lord convicted me and washed me from a lifestyle of sin. A once Born Again child of God gloriously filled with the spirit I fell back into sin and for 5 years was blindly living a life of sin all the while thinking that I was a child of God. I even went to church in this condition and once convicted it took me a YEAR for my eyes to fully be open to the height that I had fallen from.
The spirit of God began to minister to me and I began to see just exactly what had happened and why. This once saved always saved Doctrine was nothing more than a license to sin and live in it without conviction because the light had been removed and the spirit was absent! I was blinded once again in sin just as if I had never been saved... but I thought I was saved. as the spirit of God began to minister more and more I went to him in prayer and I said you have shown me the truth now show me what I can do. so here I am.
John 15 1-10Jesus clearly states that if a man remains in him bearing fruit then shall he be my disciples. He States every branch in me that bears no fruit is taken away and burned. He did not say once connected always connected there's a contingency based upon remaining in him. Remaining in the Vine. The problem that occurs is that folks do not remain in the Vine. When they don't remain in the Vine they do not produce fruits unto repentance scripture is clear that father God will cut it down and it is to be burned. This is parallel to what Paul spoke of in Hebrews chapter 6 and verse 8 in that which Bears thorns and Briars is rejected near to cursing whose end is to be burned.
2 Peter 2 amplifies this ..vs 20 for if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled and overcome the latter end is worse for them than the beginning for it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness then after they had known it to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them but this is happened unto them according to the true proverb the dog is turned again to his own vomit and the sow has returned to her wallowing in the mud.
Ezekiel 18:24 “But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die"
Folks have been bamboozled by the once saved always saved lie. It's the same lie that Satan presented to Eve in the Garden of Eden. It's the same old tactic with a different label. Genesis 3:4 and the serpent said to the woman YOU SHALL NOT SURELY DIE for God does know that in the day that you eat thereof then your eyes shall be opened and you shall be as Gods knowing Good and Evil. In the same way this false Doctrine teaches sins are forgiven past present and future...it teaches no need for repentance or self-examination why, you are above sinning...past present and future sin is abolished. You've already received your crown!! Live as you like..when scripture is very clear from Isaiah 59 that sin is the number one thing that SEPARATES us from God. it neglects the fact that we need to have a clean conscience before God. It denies that we have to be ready waiting and watching for the Master's return. Ready waiting and watching requires self-examination and a repentant heart before the throne of grace. if you're once saved always saved you have no need to walk in holiness and without it the Bible says None will see the Lord. Once saved always saved is a cloak for sin when the Bible says to submit ourselves and humble ourselves and to crucify our flesh.
Once once saved always saved is quite possibly one of the largest deceptions and contributors to the great Falling Away spoken of in second Thessalonians 2 and 1st Timothy chapter 4. While it promises comfort and eternal security it is a false security and a very deceptive slippery slope AWAY from Christ and OUTSIDE of the vine to those who wrap themselves in it. You have no need of Him any longer! You've believed the lie! Jude explained this deseptive doctrine to perfection..For certain people have crept in unnoticed [just as if they were sneaking in by a side door]. They are ungodly persons whose condemnation was predicted long ago, for they distort the grace of our God into decadence and immoral freedom [viewing it as an opportunity to do whatever they want], and deny and disown our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
5 Now I want to remind you, although you are fully informed once for all, that [e]the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe [who refused to trust and obey and rely on Him
This Doctrine portrays only the love of God and it neglects the Holiness of God. God has not nor will he ever change for he has said I am the Lord I change not. One is either born again or they are not. They either have the spirit of God or they do not. if they are born again then they will not remain in their sin or continue in a lifestyle of sin and still have the Holy Spirit for the scriptures are very clear that it is sin that separates us from God.
A child of God will not run around and Tout that they are above falling, they fear God, humble themselves understanding that he REQUIRES abiding in him, faithful service and a commited life to overcoming the World the Flesh and the devil just as Christ did but also knowing and Remembering The Words of Christ that any man putting his hand to the plow and then turn back is not fit for the kingdom of God. They begin to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling just as Paul said. They walk in daily communion and obedience to the savior.
it's my prayer that anyone reading this would carefully consider through the lens of scripture where they stand. That they would examine the scriptures for themselves and let the spirit of God teach them and direct them and guide them into all truth. Jesus says straight is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life and few are found therein. once saved always saved is a very welcomed and famously preached Doctrine by many respected pastors but if you could have a bird's eye view into the throne room where they stand and give an account for what they have taught in error I'm sure one would shutter in fear...
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour..
1 Peter 5:8
Powerful stuff. Thanks for sharing! The deception is strong for many. I pray the Lord will have mercy in opening the eyes of those who are sleep walking.
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@knowchrist THE NARROW WAY
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
What is salvation to you?
Do you still sin? Like quick to anger, lying, lust, gluttony, swearing, coveting, laziness and more… or do you just not do anything of a sin whatsoever? And if you find that you have committed a sin, do you worry you’ve lost your salvation by your own deeds?
“and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.”
John 10:28 KJV
Dr Del convinced me of what I already believed that one can forfeit your salvation.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Then you are convinced by heresy.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 We are born again in the spirit not the flesh. Have you lived up to your own standards???
@@gregorylatta8159 once saved always saved didn’t exist for the first 1500 years. Makes all the warnings void and Gods word never returns void. Those who continually hear and follow will have ever lasting life and not perish. Conditional salvation.
@@larrywilliams2464 The only condition for salvation is that we believe the gospel. Do you??? There have been believers in OSAS since the first century. They were known as Christians. The warnings are for unbelievers unto salvation and carnal Christians unto divine chastisement and Bema seat of judgment results. Can you refute the truth. No you can't.
May God have mercy on your souls. You know of who I speak. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith and not of yourselves it is a GIFT of God: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. Many here say OSAS is a licence to sin. False Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. We all sin everyday but a believers know it wrong. Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth and Scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If you continue to sin you can lose God's Grace in your life now. But you will not lose your salvation. Rightly dividing the word of God please. God bless you all
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363the scripture says those that continue in a life of sin without regeneration were not born again. Many profess Jesus with their mouths, but their hearts are far from him. We are warned the tares grow with the wheat and goats are mixed in with the sheep. we can see plainly in the churches today that not all are born again. We are supposed to test dreams and all things with scripture.
Luke 16:26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set, so that those who want to go over from here to you will not be able, nor will any people cross over from there to us.’
@@MsJonellovesJesus The guy above fell into compromise and ended up in hell forever , God doesn't play games
SUPERFICIAL RELATIONSHIP
People want the benefits of believing in Jesus without living life as a true Christian in Holiness, separation from the world. People treat Jesus like a fire insurance policy when He is so much more.
Unfortunately, many guys and girls treat each other superficially, fornicating with each other to get a sexual thrill and not truly loving one another, a true relationship founded on love has sexual gratification as just part of the marriage not the main goal.
Ephesians 5: 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her
Why don’t you guys finish that verse. You always cut off the second half? Why?
“For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”
This is one of the best discussions I’ve ever heard on this.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God).
Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts?
John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
DOES JESUS CHRIST EVER ,UN,, REDEEME ANY BODY. ,,,, END OF DEBATE
@@theodoreritola7641 SIGN YOU ARE BORN AGAIN OR NOT
Many people claim to be born again but aren’t. Being born again is evident/shown by a change in your lifestyle-Holiness instead of sinfulness (You need to be Holy to go to Heaven-Hebrews 12:14). If you are still doing the sins of your past, you are not born again.
2 Corinthians 5: 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
to u JESUS CHRIST UN FEDEEMS HIS WN AND ABORTS THEM EVEAN THOUGH HE HATES ABORTION So you are saying Gods
Thank you gentlemen 🙏 I've watched many, many theological debates and this is certainly amongst the very best! Such respect for each other. Great perspectives from each speaker 🙏🙏
SIGN YOU ARE BORN AGAIN OR NOT
Many people claim to be born again but aren’t. Being born again is evident/shown by a change in your lifestyle-Holiness instead of sinfulness (You need to be Holy to go to Heaven-Hebrews 12:14). If you are still doing the sins of your past, you are not born again.
2 Corinthians 5: 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
@@Rileyed The commandment is dont worship them for God is a Spirit,
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
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HEARERS VS DOERS
Romans 2: 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; Do you simply hear the right path or are you walking in the right path the narrow gate.
If I attend every college lecture does that mean I will do well n all assignments and exams? No. I have greater odds of doing well but I might not. There are people who know very little in comparison to you yet do well. Attending Church is good but living life as a Christian passes the test.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 my question is simply why is the antichrist photo your logo? Why? Makes no sense. You can’t be that dense?
The first evidence according to the word is child likeness.
But yea. If you want to be taken seriously. Removing the Freemason Jesus photo might be a good start to obedience. That isn’t Jesus nor even close to what he looked like.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 “You either deny self or you deny Jesus”
“The cause of Every failure in the Christian life is just this: I trust this cursed self instead of trusting Jesus; I trust my own strength over the mighty strength of God”
“If any man will come after me let Him take up his cross and follow me”
“I must deny myself and take Jesus himself as my life. I must choose. There are 2 lives, the self life and the Christ life. I must choose one of the two. Follow me says our Lord. Make me the law of your existence; the rule of your conduct. Give me your whole heart and follow me and I will care for all.
Cast yourself before the Son of God and say, “i deny my own life; I take Thine life to be mine”
Only Christ himself coming in can cast out self and keep out self. He is able by his divine grace to prevent the power of self from ever asserting itself and gaining the upper hand. Jesus Christ is willing to become the life of the soul. That he is ever the light of our souls.
Not I…..but Christ lives in me.
What about in the last days there will come false preachers who will lure people from their faith. That tells me right there that people can lose their salvation. Like pastor mark talked about we have free will God doesn't force us to serve him. By the way I enjoyed this forum very much thank you.
Mat 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mar 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, even the elect.
( NOW where did it say they will be deceived and or seduced? NO PLACE! Study your bible! )
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
A true believer will never forget Who Jesus is and what He did for us at the cross by shedding His blood for the forgiveness of our sins who died was buried and rose the third day that we can have life with Him IF WE BELIEVE!
It's like knowing the color of a blue crayon and never forgetting that color, can you? of course not, UNLESS you never believed in HIM in the first place.
@@brohuggie2978Okay suppose you are right about Eternal Security. How do you know you are saved to begin with ( You’re assuming that you are)? Allot of people were raised Christian but live like the rest of the world lying, stealing, sexual sins, dishonouring parents etc So you aren’t saved from your sins, if sin has dominion over you.
But by the power of Jesus, you overcome sin and God gives you a new heart where you seek after holiness (Born again). 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Ronans 11:22Therefore, consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him.”
Yes no one can pluck you from God’s hand, but you are free to jump out.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
I am saved because of what Jesus did at the cross, by shedding His blood for the forgiveness of all my sins, died and was buried and rose the third day to give us life ( IF WE BELIEVE IN HIM ) as He asks us to, that is how and why I am saved.
This was excellent, in light of all the differences it was refreshing and informative to hear both scriptual positions addressed in a Christian manner. It would be wonderful if other non-essential topics could be disscussed, like, "The Baptisim in the Holy Spirit," subsequent to salvation. And perhaps the Rapture of the church. Thank You "Church for all Nations " posting this content.
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 It depends if you think it is a permanent loss or not. Would you re-accept a believer what was once lost after believing and then came back or did they expire their one free ticket of salvation and can never be saved again.
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Is this actually suggesting they can't crucify Christ a second time because they are still under the blood of the first and walking through the initial steps of salvation again puts it to shame.
@@jakeofsp4des Salvation is a gift and one can freely return a gift
SIGN YOU ARE BORN AGAIN OR NOT
Many people claim to be born again but aren’t. Being born again is evident/shown by a change in your lifestyle-Holiness instead of sinfulness (You need to be Holy to go to Heaven-Hebrews 12:14). If you are still doing the sins of your past, you are not born again.
2 Corinthians 5: 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I don't mean to be a pain but that didn't address my question which was one of practicality. How do you implement that verse after one has already become born again?
Are they a lost cause or not?
If your born again your saved simple!!!
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 they where never true Christians if they where they would have finished the race. You can be put in the book of life and not be a true Christian they where Christians that built these house on sand in other words not true Christians. God bless!!
@@nicholasjones77990 No, you can't be in the book of life and not be a Christian.
Someone can be born again believer, then change their mind and become atheist. Their name will be blot out of the book of Life so they will perish by going to Hell, same for all those who continue to sin without repentance
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 no honey I'm sorry but no, once Jesus has you in hands there is no way to take you out his hands!! I trust in God for my salvation not myself!! They where never true Christians from the start!!
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 you can bring the bookof life as a non true Christian!!
If the Holy Spirit is given to the belever and God said He will never go away we must be saved till the end.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God).
Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts?
John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
The Holy Spirit is given “ to teach us all truth about Jesus and the Father.”
“It is those that endure to the end , who will be saved.”
@@motherbear5091 IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I completely agree with you.
@@motherbear5091 Thanks man
It’s good to see that you are Christian, Just stay repentant & read the Bible daily
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A Christian can't loose their Salvation. The Bible says a Christian is sealed with The Holy Spirit untill The Day of Redemption. Nowhere does it say a Christian can get unsealed. You can't undo God's supernatural gift of Salvation through sins of the flesh. All of a Christian past present and future sins were already forgiven when Jesus shed His blood for the forgiveness on the cross. All our sins were future from that point on. We are not saved by works nor kept saved by works. Jesus Finished work on the cross was enough to save and God's power keeps us saved. People trusting in their own works for Salvation have not 100% trusted in Jesus Finished work on the cross. You can't add works +grace.
Amen
IF JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS WHY REPENT?
Repentance is the way provided for us to become free from our sins and receive forgiveness for them (WE ARE NOT FORGIVEN UNLESS WE REPENT). Sins slow our spiritual progression and ultimately stop it. Repentance makes it possible for us to grow and develop spiritually again. The privilege of repenting is made possible through the Atonement of Jesus Christ/ So both Belief in Jesus as God and Repentance are needed. See 1 Corinthians 6:9
Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
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CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Repenting occurs when a person becomes a Christian. When they realize their sin is wrong and they need a Savior. Repenting of sins like false teaching says is part of a false Lordship Salvation. Nobody could ever remember all their sins. Even in The Bible it says God Repenting that he had made man. He changed his mind. Repenting is a change of mind not a turning from sin. Now you have an incorrect understanding of what repentance means. Yes unless we Repent change our mind and realize sin is wrong and place our faith in Jesus as our Savior then we do not get the benefit of Jesus death burial shed blood and resurrection for the forgiveness of our sins. Some falsely teach a person must confess all their sins or repent of individual sins before they can become a Christian. There's so much false teaching in regards to repentance because very few even understand the meaning.
@@JohnCGUNSNFREEDOM I understand that repentance is a change in mind, when you realize sin is bad and what sent Jesus to the cross and continue to sin you will die and go to hell you must change your ways., In the Bible it says Repent & Believe, notice the order - you must repent first then believe (Mark 1:15)
CHRISTIANITY IS A LICENSE TO LIVE HOLY , ETERNAL SECURITY IS A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
ST PAUL
Remember St Paul rebuked the Churches, telling them to fix their ways. If once saved always saved was a thing he wouldn’t bother writing letters to the churches.
PEOPLE WHO WON’T ENTER HEAVEN
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
There is no debatr, OSAS. Everlasting means everlasting. And God can NOT LIE.
Titus 1:2 - In hope of ETERNAL LIFE, which God that cannot lie promised before the world began
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
No one had eternal life until they endure unto the end. It is at the end when we receive eternal life.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
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Do you have a testimony of your experience in hell with Jesus available to watch or read?
@@highrpmproductions Ok here it is
Hell: I was taken there and saw one skeleton in the left and many skeletons on the right facing this one skeleton, they were there for idolatry and fornication, and the background can only be described aa destruction. 2ndly I saw a girl on earth on the same bed as a guy and she kissed him on the cheek (implying a unlawful sexual relationship), the girl died and went to hell and fire consumed her entire bod but there was some skin left over , I remember thinking “at least she has some skin drooping from her face” and then more fire came and consumed her skin
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
The state of the dead, according to the word of God.
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die*
{Genesis 2:17}
Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
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So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep*
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
👉till my change come.
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His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.
{Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21}
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God.
{Job 19:26}
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest.
{The Preacher 9:10}
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish*
{Psalm 146:3-4}
Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well.
Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead."
{John 11:12-14}
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Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection
👉at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:"
{John 11:24-25}
But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days*
{Daniel 12:13}
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life.
{John 3:16}
And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die*
{Genesis 3:4}
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire*
{Ezekiel 28:14}
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(satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.)
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
*He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil*
{Isaiah 33:14-15}
If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.
I CAN TELL U DO NOT KNOW JESUS CHRIST @ALL ,U HAVE NOT BEEN REDEEMED, WHEN you know him u know him because u put your trust in his blood only to forgive u of all your sins past present and future sins PERSONALY
I’m only 39 minutes into the video but in response to the pastor who said that losing our salvation has to be intentional, I would point out the book of Galatians where the Galatians were seeking justification by works of the law and in doing so they had fallen from grace. Their intention was not to turn away from Christ, they thought that they were obeying God by getting circumcised and yet the result was that they had actually been severed from Christ. So this seems to present at least one example that it doesn’t necessarily take a willful act of defiance in order to be cut off from Christ.
My question is this...
Does our sin lead us to hell after we are born again? How many sins did Jesus forgive and cover with the power of His blood? Can I crawl out from under His blood?
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
Hebrews 10:26-31 absolutely tells you you can crawl out from under His blood by willful sin. It's there in black and white in the Scriptures.
@@IAmisMaster yep
Christians don’t go to hell (false Christians do & suffer more than the average person)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
no we cant go to hell because Jesus forgave us all our sins. that's why we came to him in the first place. because we knew we were sinners. Colossians 2:13
“And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;”
all means everything in it's entirety. past present and future.
@@snackpup yes all sin is forgiven but Holiness is required so repentance is required YOU ARE NOT FORGIVEN IF YOU DONT REPENT
IF JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS WHY REPENT?
Repentance is the way provided for us to become free from our sins and receive forgiveness for them (We are not forgiven unless we Repent). Sins slow our spiritual progression and can even stop it. Repentance makes it possible for us to grow and develop spiritually again. The privilege of repenting is made possible through the Atonement of Jesus Christ/ So both Belief in Jesus and Repentance are needed. See 1 Corinthians 6:9
Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Another thing I’d like to point out is that the drawing from The Father in John 6 is obsolete now. Jesus said that during His ministry but in John 12:32 He said “when I am lifted up I will draw all men to Myself”. This drawing has replaced the drawing that was taking place during His ministry and this drawing is thru His gospel.
Jesus Christ is LORD
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IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
I’m at the 44:23 mark reflecting on the initial responses. In regards to the example of a son being born in a family, how can his father deny him.? Well in the Old Testament, didn’t they stone to death children who “disobeyed” their parents? In this example hasn’t the son been cut off eternally, no longer inherited the rewards of his father?The earthly to path leading to Salvation is about who will obey God’s commandments. Who will be obedient and endure to the end. This is what Jesus talked about in Matthew. How do you know who is or will be saved? The obedient ones who are producing fruit “good works.” And the good works are coming from the Holy Spirit within us so that we cannot claim it as if we produced ourselves, but by the power of the Holy Spirit where only God gets the glory.
THE NARROW WAY
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
WILL JESUS CHRIST UN REDEEME U AFTER HE REDEEMES U
“I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me.” ?
Jeremiah 32:40
“And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, “who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory.”. ???
Ephesians 1:13-14
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
I just like to go right to Jesus. And they shall NEVER PERISH…
Never- not ever; at no time; in no degree; not under any condition
Perish- to become destroyed or ruined
Zechariah 11:10 shows that God can break a covenant if he chooses. In Jeremiah he divorced Israel also.
The everlasting covenant is just like everlasting life. Life is the noun, everlasting is an adjective describing the life. The life is eternal…not necessarily your possession of it.
For people who are on the "you can lose your salvation" side. How do you know if you lost it? How many times can you lose it and get it back? Salvation was never worked for or earn in a tough way. So why would you think you have to maintain a certain level of holiness to not lose it.
You ask, "How do you know if you lost it?" Simple. When you fall away, having a sinful unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God (Heb 3:12) and have no desire to ever return.
You ask, "How many times can you lose it and get it back?" Simple. Zero - according to Heb 6:6.
You ask, "So why would you think you have to maintain a certain level of holiness to not lose it." Simple. We DO NOT think we have to maintain a certain level of holiness to not lose it. It's not about maintaining anything. It's all about being in Christ. Jesus said, "Remain in me and I will remain in you." He also said you cannot bear fruit unless you remain in him. He also said that if you do not remain in him, you are like a branch that is thrown away, withers, is picked up, thrown into the fire, and burned.
I can guarantee that you are not saved yet. You may have the promise of salvation and eternal life, but you have not arrived there yet. You must put off your perishable body and put on the imperishable. Until that day, you have not yet received full salvation. Along the way, Satan will seek to destroy you, sin will try to deceive you, and love of the world will try to draw you away. It is only those who endure to the end that will put on the imperishable. (Rev 2:7, 11, 17, 25-26, 3:5, 12, 21; Matt 24:13, 10:22, Mark 13:13, and Rom 11:17-21!)
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@thereturn2361 In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (he was planning on repenting later). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Salvation is conditional otherwise everyone would be saved. Jesus's Yoke is easy and his burden light. You must be yoked to Christ and you take on a certain burden to become a disciple of Christ. Only disciples will be saved. Disciples are disciplined.
@@slightlyup3485 I have some underlying health issues which can lead to premature death, so I heard about fasting can help fix many issues so I decided to give it a go by dry fasting (no food or water) I could only do it for 1-2 days a week without feeling too weak, but a few months in my heart started racing and it let weaker and weaker. When I would eat something unhealthy it would race hard.
One night it was racing hard and a tall figure in white appeared and was praying towards the picture of Jesus in my room, he said something like “please don’t let him die from a heart attack”, then soon after he disappeared and I heard the audible voice of God tell me some stuff then that voice stopped then I felt my body being lifted and life being pumped back into my heart and I was healed thank God, Jesus is God and He is very loving and a miracle worker.
Yall dont know dispensationalism. Faith and works is not this time. It's for a future time. Now is just faith.
Well said
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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Rightly dividing the word of Truth is SO important, unfortunately most don't do it therefore they take so much of scripture out of context.
@@CalebA585 yeah i had to straight up ignore verses in romans saying the jews were not done away with in order to be a calvinist. i knew about the verses but i just ignored them!! i had to ignore them or else calvinism made no sense (covenant theology)
@@snackpup Calvanism never made sense to me, it seems to go against the Bible in many ways. Like you said, they ignore much of scripture to come to their conclusions.
While I subscribe to one side of this debate, I have to say that these look like wonderful, God fearing men who care about the truth of scripture.
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a peach tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces peaches is the peach tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian.
Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
I gave up in that part of my life and slept around for a couple years. The Spirit told me if I go back I will die basically. I’ll never reach Gods will in my life at least. He def scared me. I was shaking. I did sin. Enjoyed it at the time. But then after a week or so I would always get so sad and weak and have to stop.
@@Rileyed Stay close to Godby reading the Bible daily, and praying throughout the day
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I been reading 12 hours a day since sick and loss of job. Lol. He is all I have.
I believe in OSAS but I prefer to call it Once Born Again Always Born Again (OBAABA). The clearest verse supporting OBAABA is from the Lord Himself. Jesus states in Matthew 7:23 “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” The word “never” in Strong's Concordance (G3763) is defined as “neither at any time or nothing at any time.” How could a “previously” saved person who did not repent and return to their belief in the Lord's work at the cross be “never known”? If one loses one’s salvation Jesus could have stated: “I once knew you” or “I knew you at one time” or “You turned away from Me”. Jesus could also have eliminated the phrase “I never knew you” and said “And then will I profess unto them depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Remember, “never” is as definitive as is “eternally” saved. His Word specifically states that we can never lose His imputed righteousness which guarantees our eternal salvation. God sends the Holy Spirit as a preserving seal to lock in our faith, as an authenticating seal to validate our sonship, and as a protecting seal to keep out destructive forces. The point is that God wants us to feel secure and safe in his love and power.
@AseyFilmsey yes but your flesh will have to deal with the consequences of sin. God saved your spirit not your flesh. and you gotta pay sin those wages. wages of death
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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Once sealed always sealed is a beautiful way to say it.
In order to take out emotion, I outlined every argument/answer then went back and looked at the black and white in front of me.
When you take out the intonations and facial expressions and have the words they say, it’s so much clearer. (I’d love to take credit for this idea but I learned it in debate classes. It’s served me well over the years.)
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
if you have to do the commandments after you get saved to stay saved then where is the salvation? you had to do the commandments before you were saved. and you have to do them after you are saved. what are you saved from??? you're still on the same treadmill...
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a strawberry tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces strawberries is the strawberry tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian.
Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363no way! i am saved by the blood of Jesus 100% no works must show! if you want to be left behind at the pre trib rapture then be my guest. i will be rooting for you from heaven to endure to the end !!
@@snackpup Pre trib rapture is correct but if you live in sin you will notbe raptured
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 on the contrary if you put your faith in your works you will go to hell!! Don't forget! It's faith + nothing in Jesus finished work on the cross he paid it all 100% with his blood!!! Without his blood you are not saved !!! Remember I warned you !!
@@snackpup If you tell everyone that you are a mechanic but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a mechanic? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian buy name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian.
For anyone who says that the doctrine of eternal security is a license to sin, what you are really saying is that you only obey the commandments out of fear that you will go to hell. Imagine obeying the commandments not out of fear or due to threats, but out of love for righteousness and love for God.
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a peach tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces peaches is the peach tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian.
Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 First, regarding your comment about worldly Christians, there were times when Paul told the Christians he was writing to that they were worldly and carnal, but he still called them brothers.
Second, in regard to the Matthew 3:10, there was a time when I interpreted it as you do, but now I actually don't think it has anything to do with salvation. It was a comment made to the Jews in regard to the coming destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, and a final call for national repentance to encourage God to intervene on Israel's behalf. (This is not a novel idea. A lot of biblical scholars see it that way.)
@@sorenpx Fake Christians go to hell, the carnal mind is emnity against God, enemiesw of God go to hell not heaven
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
So I guess you also ignore “the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” as well… ? What’s the point of fearing the Lord if you believe that no matter what you do you are saved?
@@highwired7781 It may do you well to research the word translated "fear." It could also be translated as "reverential awe." In any case, believers in eternal security don't say that God will not discipline his children, or even that he won't discipline them in severe ways. They only say that God won't torment his own kids in hell because they become unruly.
Not sure if you're a father, but does that make sense to you? Would you torment your own children forever because they act up?
I'm listening to this debate right now. It is possible for a Christian to go thru a very difficult situation, get so mad at God that Christian aggressively rebels at Him and runs away - lost again. But I don't believe that aggressive rebellion is necessary to be lost again. I believe that most of the time, salvation is lost due to passive neglect or distraction. Hebrews 2:1 warns us to not drift away due to neglect. In Galatians 5:1 Paul warns us to let ourselves go back into bondage again. We must live and walk with Jesus moment by moment, day by day.
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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Again your salvation depends on you and not Jesus. Eternal life means temporary life to self rightous people depending on their works to save them. Jesus just isn't enough for you. Those are the Lord Lord look what I did in your name crowd
CAN A CHRISTAN BE REDEEMED THEN JESUS CHRIST.. UN ...REDEEME U Ltter ?
I am not sure the complication. Is this not correct?
If one turns to Jesus, they are saved. If they reject Jesus, they are not.....if they have turned to Jesus then reject him...they are into the category/group of those that reject Jesus. If you Love Jesus, you will keep his commandments. If we turn to Jesus, we are 100% assured that he is able to save us (it's not Jesus plus what we can do). We don't have to worry about Jesus living up to his promises. If we are his, he WILL save us.
But it seems pretty clear we all have consequences to our choices and actions, regardless of if we are in Christ or not. We step into eternity when we die. We are not in eternity on this earth. When we die, it's final. We are under judgement if we are not in Christ and this will be condemnation as none have lived up to the standards required OR we are in Christ and he will save us from condemnation but we are still judged on our works, but this is for rewards for how we behaved and what we did with what the Lord gave us. Is the bible not clear in teaching this?
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian.
1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
CAN U BE ,,,,,,,,,,UN .....REDEEMED BY JESUS CHRIST
@@theodoreritola7641 The Bible talks about being blot out from the nook of life, you can't be blot out unless you were written first
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@theodoreritola7641 James 4:7 ask Jesus to help you with your sinful addictions so you don't go to hell
if u dont repentJ Jesus christwill tell uto depart from HIM HE NEVER KNEW U, I KNOW THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS REDEEMED ME ,DO U KNOW IF HE HAS U ? I HOPE U DO BY 2 MORROW
If you believe you can lose your salvation. Than you're trusting in your own performance
@Tableú that speaks of unbelievers. It said THEY . NOT YOU. previously in the chapter it says YOU.
@Tableú next chapter says if a brother be overtaken in a sin restore him.
@Tableú to believers about THEM
@Tableú you're wrong but the fact that your calling someone reprobate when you don't know them means you're not being led by the spirit
@Tableú he talking to believers about unbelievers
Most Protestants believe that Christians will never lose their Salvation (OSAS - Once Saved Always Saved) based on Romans 4:8, "BLESSED is the one whose sin the Lord (Christ) will never account against them."... Furthermore, most Protestants say that the Elect given by the Father (God) to Christ Jesus will never ever lose their Salvation." (ref. John 6:37-39)...
It seems to me those Elect given by the Father (God) to Christ Jesus to keep had lost their Gift of FREEWILL... for God will and must not FAIL... which means those Elects given by God to Christ Jesus, guarantees that they could not make any sin or if they did sin, those sins will not be accounted for them for Christ washed them with His blood until the end of their lives on Earth so that they could be SAVED... as if No FREEWILL for them in reality...
But the Bible did not support this assumption... for St. Matthew said, "Anyone who PERSEVERES and ENDURES until the end will be SAVED." (ref. Matt. 24:13)... St. Paul wrote to Timothy before he was beheaded, "I run to the fullest, finish the race, and I have kept the FAITH." (ref. 2 Tim. 4:7)...
Logically speaking, why will the Elects given by God to Christ need (HAD) to PERSEVERE, ENDURE, FINISH THE RACE, and KEEP THE FAITH... if God will not let them commit any SIN accountable to them until their last breath on earth to be SAVED, for God must/should not fail?...
The word "BLESSED" is an adjective that gives/indicates conditions on how to be BLESSED... How?... Christians who persevere and endure to the end are called BLESSED... those Peacemakers are called BLESSED... those who hunger and thirst and poor in spirits are BLESSED... those who have not seen but believe are BLESSED...etc... (The Beatitudes)
In Conclusion, Protestants are entitled to their own Opinions and Beliefs... but they were definitely wrong in their interpretation of the Biblically TRUTH without compromise... Christians can lose their Salvation, but those who persevere and endure till the END will be SAVED because they are BLESSED."... Praise be to God in Christ... Amen.
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian.
1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
to @thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn343... there are lots of normal people who are truly licensed/registered Architects, Engineers, Doctors, Nurses, etc, who end up doing another job/work NOT RELATED to their professional skills... but it does not mean they can not claim or tell or be called/address as Architect, Engineer, Doctor, etc...
I have a friend who is a Registered Nurse end up doing REALTY BUSINESS for life... it does not mean she is no longer a skilled Nurse, but she still can use her skills, knowledge, and nursing profession in her own family, relatives, and friends without being paid for...
Some people are "JACK OF ALL TRADE."
Regarding 1 John 5:18... is all about CHRIST JESUS born of God who does not SIN... the Word/Logos was in the Bosom of God in the beginning, and God in such a way gave birth or let the Logos/Word come out from God's bosom... God said, "You are my SON, today, I have BEGOTTEN You" ...(ref. Hebrews 5:5 / Acts 13:33 / Psalm 2:7).
It is not about Christians with Born Again Spirit, for all (mankind) have SINNED and fallen short of the Glory of God. (ref. Romans 3:23-26)... Amen.
This brought clarity to me that a once saved, always saved is indeed dangerous!
I guess your perfect…never sin.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God).
Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts?
John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
How is it dangerous?
@@Titus2_13 it is dangerous when people become complacent with their walk with Christ and uses the doctrine to continue on sinning because they believe that they will always be saved no matter what they do.
@@josh2940 what do you mean by this question.
So how many times do we have to get saved in our life time?
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
OSAS is not the truth.
what is the truth?
@@snackpup th-cam.com/video/M1SEMpPKCY4/w-d-xo.html
THIS is. FAITH AND FAITHFULNESS, BELIEVE AND SUBMIT
John 17:17....thy word is trurh.
@@LL-ew2hz AMEN TO THAT!! ALL WORD IS TRUTH!
@@Keepitoriginalministry AND AMEN, OSAS IS NOT TRUTH
God dose he work, we take this gift never to lose it.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God).
Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts?
John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
Once saved always saved is not biblical. I think those that believe in this teaching errantly follow John Calvin's belief. The thing that is eternal and makes salvation eternal is Christ's work alone. What Jesus did on Calvary is what people need to focus on and not a commitment made by a human. We do not lose our "Free Will" when we accept Christ. The Lord will keep us even in our struggles with certain sins if we will endure the process. That is the key. We must endure the process until the end. No one can pluck us out of the hand of God, but we can surely walk away if we chose to. God did not make us be automatons; otherwise, our love would be a program of some sort. He wants us to genuinely love Him because we genuinely love Him. Again, once save is to appease those that have fear of losing their salvation, but they need not be worried because what Christ did is good forever. All one has to do is stay in Christ. That is the difference. Thus, through Christ's eternal work a person can be saved eternally.
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
scriptures that prove if your a “christian” and then leave, you didn’t lose salvation, you never had it. (Proveing once saved always saved)
1 John 2:18-20
Warnings Against Denying the Son
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They left from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but them leaving showed that none of them even belonged to us.
20 But if you have an anointing from the Holy one, you know the truth.
an antichrist means someone who is not of God, against him, they were “of God” and then “became” against God, but they never were of God because someone who was wouldn’t have left, one of the 10 commandments is “do not put any gods before me” and while we are human and commit this many times, a true born again christian wouldn’t want to mentally commit this sin and mentally leave, you were a fake, just like how you think a fake friend is there for you, but he’s actually against you, is the same way how you were a “christian” and then committed treachery, (betrayal of God) you never was for God, you just acted like it for a little while, but God sees through, even if you die when you was “believing” you wouldn’t make it, because you never were of God, even when you did “believe” you was, this proves it.
Matthew 7:23
then i will tell them, depart from me, for i never knew you.
so if God knew you and then stopped knowing you, why would he say, “for i never knew you” he would say for i used to know you, but he says NEVER did i know you, if you lost salvation and God says this, then your calling him a LIAR, you are deceiving yourself if you become a “christian” and then stop calling yourself one, it clearly states in this scripture of the bible that they left, but they never even were of us, in other words, they stopped being christian, but they never were a christian to begin with, because a real one wouldn’t leave, if your truly reborn again the holy spirit in your heart would bring you back, even if you backslide, but if you leave and don’t look back, you never was reborn again, even when you “believed” you were fooling yourself the entire time, this scripture proves it.
James chapter 1:22-24
22 Do not merely listen to the word, and deceive yourselves. Do what it says.
if you stop doing what it says and never truly gave your life to him, you have fooled yourself into believing you were saved, even when you was doing the things, do all the works you want you need to be born again to make it to heaven, and you can’t become reborn and then become unborn and go back into the world, it’s either you were reborn again, stood in the word even, if you backslided, you eventually came back through the Holy Spirit guiding you, or you left and didn’t look back, and never changed to begin with, you tested the Holy Spirit and decided that wasn’t for you.
this proves what I’m saying.
2 Peter 2:20-22
20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A person that is washed returns to the mud.”
it says they are worst off in the end then the beginning, because in the start they didn’t know the word, then they got into the word, knew the truth, but still rejected it in the end, now they are going to get punished even worst, because they knew the truth, and knew what they were told to do, but never was in it because they left, as 1 John says, “if they leave they never were of us to begin with”
so here’s the final conclusion. you never were God‘s reborn again child if you leave, you didn’t lose salvation, you never had it, you can’t be sealed in the word, and then become unsealed, that makes no sense and would be God lying, once your sealed it’s a done deal, no matter what happens eternal life starts once you are sealed, even on earth, you cannot break a seal, if you believe you can your doubting God‘s power.
@@its_me_christopher_16 Many confuse Christ eternal work through His death, burial and resurrection. This means if I keep my faith in His finished work I am saved forever. Thus, it is impossible for one to lose their salvation in such a case; however, people that believe in John Calvin’s theory confuse a human commitment with an eternal act. There is no comparison. Christ work IS ETERNAL, but our commitment can change because we humans change like the wind. Satan and all his angel were saved but after losing their commitment they were kicked out of heaven.
Nowhere in The Bible is there even one example of a Christian loosing their Salvation . The Bible says we are sealed with The Holy Spirit untill The Day of Redemption, not temporally sealed etc. Your Salvation is not based off works or your performance as a Christian. Salvation is a supernatural gift from God that you can't undo . All past present and future sins were already forgiven by Jesus Finished work on the cross for Christians. Jesus paid in full your sin debt for eternity. You can't be condemned. The Bible says there is therefore no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. The Bible says those who do not believe are already condemned. Now when a person becomes a Christian they still have a sinful fleshly body and still willfully sin in the flesh but the new spirit man that your given when you become a Christian does not sin . We are given Christ righteousness and we get to Heaven not based off works but God's righteousness allows us entrance into Heaven. The Bible doesn't teach a Christian can loose their Salvation. The Bible does have warnings for a Christian and encouragement to live a life pleasing to God. Most all of the verses people like yourself will use to say a Christian can loose their Salvation are always taken out of context and not even understood. So you all will use those verses as proof text but none of them say a Christian can loose their Salvation. A Christian can loose fellowship with God and get chastised but that's because we are Children of God just as The Bible says.
@@JohnCGUNSNFREEDOM you are right by saying your salvation is not based on works. It’s not your good or bad works that saves you. It’s based on Christ’s work; which is eternal. If once in was true God wouldn’t have ever allowed Satan and the angels that rebelled to be lost. He is a just God and not a respect or of person. He is always the same. He changes not. People don’t need to be afraid of losing their salvation. It doesn’t work like that. A person has to reject Christ and that can happen. We are married to Christ, but just like one’s unfaithfulness or one simply walking away from the relationship, this can end it. People divorce all of the time because they change. God won’t force anyone to love Him. If that were the case He could have taken our free will and made us to be robots. No, He didn’t do so; rather He gave us choice. Just like the prodigal son, if we want to walk, He will let us go. I have a friend that we once shared great fellowship, but he has forsaken the way of Christ. He divorced his beautiful wife and is living with a woman in Korea. The good thing is God will accept him back if he repents, but if not, he will surely not be welcomed into the kingdom. Then too, when we read the Bible we must never lose sight of God’s perspective. God doesn’t think like us and His ways are not like ours. God is not trying to prove anything for He knows everything. It is we mere human that are filled with debate because of our biases. For instance, you said we are sealed unto the day of redemption. What does this really mean? Obviously to you it means once this happens anyone that receives Christ is saved for ever, but if you be honest it could mean something else altogether. It’s your reasoning or traditional perspective that causes you to think the way you do. However, that verse that you mentioned isn’t saying what you think. Thus, it is the Lord’s intent for us to remain in Christ until our redemption or at the time of the Rapture. He is not saying we are sealed forever. Then too, why would Paul say this (Now the Spirit speakers expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM THE FAITH, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons). I already know that my words won’t change your thinking. Yet, I pray the Holy Spirit will move upon you. Otherwise, If you want to continue to believe that once saved always is valid that is your choice. It won’t change your place in Christ.
If we’re forgiven for our sins does that include sins post salvation?
Can you be born again again?
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian.
1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
I have to disagree with brother Mark about the 2nd death Jesus refers to. The 2nd death is the lake of fire
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
That's how I've always understood it as well.
@@JustATanneriteDummy That is why we should always check scripture . God bless
@@JustATanneriteDummy The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@kimwestwood8840 In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
So because God has saved me, I can do as I please with no eternal conqueances since I am saved forever? Where is that in scripture?
Your "works" shall still be judged for rewards or lack thereof, so yes, there are still eternal consequences, but your salvation is secure in Christ. the-spirit-of-elijah.blogspot.com/2011/05/can-eternal-life-be-lost.html
Exactly!
If you fall away and then come back, you are forgiven. If you fall away and stay away, you are Luke warm or cold and you’re burned with the tares
@@edricheson How do you MAKE the Holy Spirit leave your body if you "fall away" when He clearly told us, "I will NEVER leave or forsake you?" Truth is, you can't and He cannot lie. If you have been born again, the Holy Spirit resides in you, and has sealed you. He will NEVER leave you. Our salvation is kept by Him, not us.
@@edricheson If we can do as we please, than what was the purpose of Jesus going to the cross? He did not die on the cross to manage sin but to remove it. We are new creatures in Christ or as Paul puts it "A new creation." Should we go on sinning that grace may increase? By no means!!!!!!"
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first
Acts 16:31 and James 2:19 use the very same Greek word for believe, “pisteuson”. At 1:40 Alex falsely suggests that these verses contain two different words. I do agree that saving faith requires more than mere “pisteuson” though. It requires obedience and trust.
So far I’m not really liking how the debate is progressing. I’m 1 hour 22 minutes into the video and the eternal security side has been quoting passages that the conditional salvation side hasn’t been addressing. I feel like it needs to be more of an exchange of passages from each side and the opposing side addressing those passages then responding with their own passages. Two examples so far are Ephesians 4:30 and 1 John 2:19. Ephesians 4:30 can be responded to by quoting Ephesians 5 where Paul continues to elaborate on the message in chapter 4 and says to them
“Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints; and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.”
Ephesians 5:1-6 NASB1995
bible.com/bible/100/eph.5.1-6.NASB1995
The reason why these Christians who have been sealed with the Holy Spirit cannot be immoral is because if they do they will not have an inheritance in the kingdom of God.
1 John 2:19 should be responded to by quoting James 5:19-20 because the popular translation of 1 John 2:19 by those who support eternal security directly contradicts what James is teaching in chapter 5. 1 John 2:19 is about a specific group of people who were antichrists, they were teaching that Jesus is not God. The passage isn’t about everyone who falls away from Christ. James 5:19-20 is specifically about Christians who fall away from the faith.
“My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.”
James 5:19-20 NASB1995
bible.com/bible/100/jas.5.20.NASB1995
The reason James 5 cannot be about false professors is because it’s turning them BACK that saves their soul from death. Jesus said that they strayed/departed from the truth and if someone turns them BACK their soul will be saved from death. That right there contradicts what everyone keeps saying about 1 John 2:19. James 5:19-20 makes it clear that just because someone departs from the faith DOESN’T mean that they were not a true believer.
John 15:16 "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
Thats text belong to the apostles
You are misunderstanding that whole verse, obviously you don't know that God is omniscient meaning God knows all, so what it means is he's choosing us because he already knew we would choose him God is not taking away our freewill , so we have the freewill to choose God or not and God already knows that.
@@jericlamb2676 ST PAUL
Remember St Paul rebuked the Churches, telling them to fix their ways. If once saved always saved was a thing he wouldn’t bother writing letters to the churches.
Philippians 2: 12Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING
@@kalegallarde6369 LIMITS TO FREE WILL
You are free to choose your actions but not free to choose the consequences. Somebody may choose to speed but the consequence of breaking the law is a fine. You can choose to live in sin and go to hell or repent and turn to Jesus and go to heaven. You decide how you will live your current life; God decides your afterlife.
Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
I know a few people that truly love Jesus and accepted Him years ago as their saviour . But they cannot and have not separated themselves from sin . One of them believes because Jesus abolished sin with His blood , his past present and future sins are forgiven. So in his own words , it’s ok to fornicate ,lust and swear,
I love Christ more then sin so for me it wasn’t difficult to choose Him over sin. Its extremely difficult and I fail often because no one on this earth can be sinless. Will my friend and I have the same faith when we cross over ?
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
Don't buy into this once saved always saved bs its not true and extremely dangerous when God says the path to heaven is narrow He means it so don't think oh I except christ in my heart and I'm free to go it's a relationship that he desires and through having a personal relationship with him that then shows through your life the way you speak and the way you live and you have to live the life which like God says it ain't easy and sure makes the path narrow
@@kalegallarde6369 yes absolute heresy
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363when does one receive ETERNAL life?
This sharing SHOWS. THE difference between soul/human versus SPIRIT/GOD according Hebr. 4:12
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Its impossible because we are born in the family of God an apart of his body my parents cant disown me so how can God I will always be apart of the family I was born in
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
The free will argument ( BTW I am neither Calvinist or Arminianin). That it's a violation is not well thought out Because what about in heaven? What about after glorification? Is it unfair that God makes it so that we can't reverse our position in Heaven? That it's a violation of freewill that we can't undo glorification? It's the same point with justification.
Some are some are, some are some are, some are
Many paths, you present
But the true path is as only as wide, as the lords shoulder's?
Better to be hot for the lord
Than Luke warm or I will spew you out my mouth
If back sliden you attract 7 times more evil spirts
How can that then be called saved.
If you say
Matthew 12:31, “Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.” Had she, perchance, committed the unforgiveable sin?
Not saved then utter thoses words I feel you are condemned, I have depression I did and even tho I tried and trying, I feel something is truely lost.
So again damed you teach lukewarm feel good administration of the word
It's evident what scripture says.
Listen not too man.
Don't matter how close too the Lord I feel I can be I'm not
I have tried and trying
It's just not there as it was before
So trust the Lord will rip your name out of the book of life
And you do not need to be evil too do so still I just belive in God and try just too be a good human but that's not going too help anyone. I listen to these talks but none truely convict me, in the spirt. If a Christian and saved to the work belive in all your heart walk away
Your doomed🎯
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Can someone tech savvy please clip the illustration made around 1:20-22
That was good 👏👍🙏🕊️
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
I can not believe no one brought up romans 8:38-39?? That is the juggernaut to the someone believing you can forfeit your salvation. Neither present nor future will ever separate you from Gods love? So if someone falls away or even rejects God in the future than loses salvation. How is that possible in the present or future will not separate you? Tough
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 so do you have no sin in your life now?
@There is none Good but God John 3:16, Rev 3:16 so how I read the Bible is you become saved and God helps you overcome your sin. JESUS says come as you are. Without God's help we can never break free from our sins
@@IrishG-fs4fy Yes Jesus helps you a=to live Holy not sinful
HOW DO I STOP CERTAIN SINS?
James 4:7-8 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. First you need to pray to God and tell him of your struggle then submit it to him and when the urge to sin come resist it eventually you will lose the desire all together to do that sin!
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
REMEMBER WHAT YOU FEED GROWS AND WHAT YOU STARVE DIES
@@IrishG-fs4fy THE NARROW WAY
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
Speaking of the churches to which Christ talks to in REV. many don't understand that, we are always to look at CONTEXT (hermeneutics). For example; Hebrews 6:1-8. Hey! have you read the chapters preceding chapter 6? The context, who is He talking about/to? He is talking about 3 different groups of Hebrews who are part of some new christian churches but are NOT YET saved. 1st. group is the individual. 2nd group is those who have come to know Jesus(NOT born again just come to know Him). 3rd group is that they are NOT saved. How can people even debate something that is clear in scriptures. Salvation is a FREE GIFT from GOD and once it is given it cannot be taken away in that the individual is SEALED...Hebrews 2:1 warns us to not drift away due to neglect. In Galatians 5:1 Paul warns us to let ourselves go back into bondage again. Now, if that person still keeps committing sins, then that is another debate in which they will lose things such as joy, peace, self love /respect and so on. BUT NOT HIS FREE GOD GIVEN GIFT to which he has been sealed into eternal salvation.
The devil will use this subject soooooo much to confuse born again Christians in order to keep them from bringing others to Christ and also from producing more good fruit. Do NOT BE DECEIVED by reading/studying the word of GOD in order to show yourselves approved before GOD. BTW SALVATION is REPENTANCE, no amount of works (repenting=works)will save anyone. The only thing that WE CAN DO but is NOT works is BELIEVE/TRUST... CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT. Rightly divide, OT and NT. Why is it so hard to understand such simplicity? Ringing bells but no love, making God a liar. Just because they simply don't have ears to hear and eyes to see.. Jesus was talking to OT JEWS: if you do not remain in me... CONTEXT...
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
33:40 great distinction 👏
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
WILL JESUS CHRIST EVER REDEEME U WHEN U BELIVE HIM THEN ,,,,UN,,,, REDEEME U LATTER
@@theodoreritola7641 I don't think you understood what her said at the market I gave.
"Very rare Apostate" - someone who openly denies Christ.
I think this is where outer Darkness comes in, which is eternal separation from God, but not a destroying of the soul, the former is worse.
Works is obedience.
Obey the laws .
Such a large number of books to just state just BELIEVE .
The word tells us what will happen if we obey and also if we disobey.
All of personal choice .
You are HIS or NOT HIS .
A son of man or a son of GOD .
THE NARROW WAY
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Notice a few find it. People are trying to get into heaven, but they refuse to repent so they enter the wide gate which leads to hell. Find the narrow way which leads to heaven
Can u be ,,,,, un,,, redeemed
@@theodoreritola7641
If I save you from drowning and you jump back in that is on you .
Up to you to stay on dry ground .
WHEN JESUS CHRIST REDEEMED HE WILL NOT... UN.... REDEEME ME Maybe yours will Jim . tell me im wrong Jim
@@theodoreritola7641
Ok you are wrong .
You wash your little 5 year old boy today .
Tomorrow he gets right back in the dirt .
You don’t wash him anymore? No
You wash him until he is old enough to know better than to get in the dirt .
The Bible verse that supports this is
2 Peter 2:22 (KJV)
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
The Hebrew saw GOD’s great wonders , HIS miracles and yet they fell away and was denied entry .
Now you think we are any better than they ?
1 Corinthians 9:24 (KJV)
Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
What race have you ran that you got the prize before the race was ran .
We are in the race of life , we must run it to the best of our abilities.
Eternal security, what a farce.
David said 'restore to me the joy of my Salvation because Salvation only activates upon death, Salvation from punishment for sins.At 1:17:00 the man in black says wrongly that the Hebrews 3 Believers who fell away into sin were false brothers because they left. No, They were true brothers who returned to sin and by it were made fallen brothers. Also, he's misreading verse 12 - the evil heart is a thing that can manifest in the Believer, not a separate unsaved person with an evil heart all along.
It seems most people mis-read Hebrews 6. It is not saying one who has fallen away cannot be won back. It says the gospel message cannot win them back.
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
WILL JESUS CHRIST,,,,, UN ,,,REDEEME, U ? IS THAT POSSIBLE ?
@@theodoreritola7641 Yes. A minority of born-again, regenerated Christians between the time of their conversion and their death choose not to repent of all sinning because they love their sin more than God's way. Jesus said you cannot serve 2 masters, you will always love one or the other. In Rev 3 alone Jesus twice warns that he removes people from the Book of Life (the Heaven-bound humans) and that he will spit the Christian from his mouth. Many times we are warned that we MUST remain in Christ, and remain in the vine (and produce also) or he will cut us off. That no human who lives in sin can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The Bible is clear, and it does not teach once saved always saved. Jesus' first sermon to everyone was the same and one word: REPENT. God's requirement has never changed, but today's Satan-corrupted churches are trying to mislead us into thinking that it has.
WHY dont,, U,,, BELIVE THAT WHEN JESUS CHIST REDEEMES HE REDEEMES U FOR EVER THATS EVERLASTING LIFE READ JOHN CH 3 vs 16
so your sayin u repented of all your sinng ? YOUR A LIAR AND U KNOW IT . THE only way to heaven is by bliving Jesus Christ forgave u of EVERY sin you will ever commit at 1 time john ch 3 vs16 u may as well mark over John ch3 vs16 and tell Jesus Christ by
Luke 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Mathew 24:44
"Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
1 John 2:17 says “whoever does what pleases God will live forever.” It’s about living a Christ - like life. OSAS is a cop out to not fear the lord, to not do good for others, and to lead others astray. Do as God pleases. If OSAS were true, why aren’t we instantly beamed up to heaven the moment we believe?
WILL JESUS CHRIS REDEEME U THEN UN REDEEME U LATTER ? DOES HE TAKE HIS PRECIOS BLOOD BACK FROM U ?
@@theodoreritola7641 he might. You really don’t know, not fearing the lord does not equal knowing. That’s what it seems like OSAS is, is that you know the lord so well you don’t fear him and you can go out and willfully sin and think you’re going to heaven. Idk, most fathers check their children with attitudes, and I fear the lord, so I’m not going to over step by saying I know anything for certain. But i believe that there are several verses in the Bible instructing us to live Christ like lives, OSAS is like a cult that believes that the flesh is definitively weak and that trying to fight against sinful desires is impossible so just go out and commit adultery and never feel bad about it, have no conscious and expect to still be saved. I’m not buying it.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
For 1 thing u dont know me Greg or my sin life .we as Christtians we are saved only by my trusnsting in my redeemer Greg, and thats Jesus Christ only Greg my quistian is CAN JESUS CHRIST,,,,, UN.... REDEEM HIS CHILDREN PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE TELL EVERY ONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE
TELL JESUS CHRIST HE IS A CULT LRADER IN JOHN CH 3 VS 16 AND PAUL IS A LIAR IN ACTS Ch 16 Vs 30, 31
Matthew 18:6
But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Regardless of who you think this verse was dedicated to, either a regular child or a child like humble adult cristian believer, what do you think it would happen in the following circumstances:
Let's say a faithful Christian preacher who happens to be OSAS believer, and preaches to many people about eternal salvation. What would happen to this preacher on Judgment Day if at least one of those people that heard those sermons decides to live a life in sin without consequences due to eternal salvation ends up in hell?
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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It’s not rare at all
Sad that you are selling people a false sense of security
People are denying Christ by the way they choose to live after knowing and tasting His priceless gift
One of the speakers against osas side seemed to say salvation could be lost only by a willful rejection of christ. Just in case theres a brother in christ reading this who suffers with habitual sin but still holds his faith till the end
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
I was groomed at a private Christian school till 3rd grade in the panhandle of Florida. Apparently, I asked Jesus into my heart and said he was my lord and savior and asked for forgiveness when I was in 1st grade. I have no memory of this event at all.... and I'm an atheist now, I sure hope I don't go to Hell... Also, now that I'm an adult, work as an electrical engineer making bank, I have never donated any money to the church. I do donate to secular organizations that help the poor and needy though.
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 you show me that bible verse like it has power over me. Seems very threatening. You, and every pastor i know, will never get my tithing.
@@Kramer-tt32 I wouldn't lie to you as this is very serious
God through the Holy Spirit has shown me several things relating to the afterlife with the purpose of convincing people like yourself. Stuff like Heaven and Hell, Angels, and evil Spirits the Lord Jesus (not worthy at all), a miracle happened to me that saved my life (thank you God) & so much more. I am more than happy to give further details.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I'm a good and kind person. I reject any and all religions. I don't hurt people, I donate to secular charities who I know don't proselytize. If you truly believe I deserve being tortured, forever, in Hell, for disbelieving in this god, who "talks" to you. I think you should mentally partake in who you should worship.
@@Kramer-tt32 Hell is for sinners if you have lied or looked with lust or stolen anything you to name a few you will be judged, your good works mean nothing foe salvation, a judge judges you on bad you do not the good so repent and believe the Gospel to go to Heaven otherwise separated from God in hell forever (forever is a long time to be in the wrong place)
Love what dr tackett said about both sides having strong verses… it’s so true. But now having heard what he said that the contradicting verses are for people who are false believers… I think that is way off… there are too many warnings and they are to believers. Hebrews 3:13 . See to it “brothers” and “sisters that none of you has a sinful and unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God…. It’s a warning to brothers and sisters… that’s just one example there are many more. And the verse in 1 John seems to be talking about the antichrists not regular believers in the church. Because before and after that verse John talks about antichrists. Also just a side note… try doing a study on the word “if” and see how it seems linked to salvation in some cases… just food for thought
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
It's not about God abandoning YOU. It's YOU walking away from the faith, becoming so caught up in sin [that leads to death], becoming deceived by doctrines of devils. Why else would there be so many warnings about staying in the faith; being careful, awake, aware!-- that we DON'T fall away. The Bible is clear!---a "believer" can; indeed, fall away and be thrown into the fire. Be careful!
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (he was planning on repenting later). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Was Apostle Paul not born again when he said he wants to run his race to the end so that he does not loose his price
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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The following is an excerpt of a message given by H.A. Ironside in 1934: Eternal Security: Its Meaning -
QUOTE: When we speak of the eternal security of the believer, what do we mean? We mean that once a poor sinner has been regenerated by the Word and the Spirit of God, once he has received a new life and a new nature and has been made partaker of the divine nature, once he has been justified from every charge before the throne of God, it is absolutely impossible that that man should ever again be a lost soul. Having said that, let me say what we do not mean when we speak of the eternal security of the believer. We do not mean that it necessarily follows that if one professes to be saved, if he comes out to the front in a meeting, shakes the preacher's hand, and says he accepts the Lord Jesus Christ as his Savior, that that person is eternally safe. It does not mean that if one joins a church or makes a profession of faith, is baptized, becomes a communicant, and takes an interest in Christian work, that that person is forever secure. It does not mean that because one manifests certain gifts and exercises these gifts in Christian testimony, that that person is necessarily eternally secure. Our Lord Jesus Christ said to the people of His day, as recorded in Matthew 7:21-23: "Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doth the will of My Father which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? And in Thy name have cast out devils? And in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." Such people then may have been very active in what is called Christian work - they have preached, they have cast out demons, that is, their influence has been such that men and women have found deliverance from satanic power through their ministrations in the name of Jesus, they have professed with their lips, they have accomplished many wonderful works, but they are found in that day among the lost, and when they plead their great activity and their earnestness in Christian testimony, the Lord says to them, “I never knew you." Notice, He does not say to them, "I used to know you, but you have forfeited My favor and I do not know you any longer." He says, "I never knew you." END QUOTE
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WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
If they lie and live a life not of God were they even saved to begin with?
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Eternal security is the most dangerous heresy in Christianity of today. It aims on new Christians, freshly born again men and women, who need to learn to live by the Book. You are forgetting that even apostle Paul said that if he were not to keep his body in obedience, he could have lost his own salvation. Someone should have said to Paul that he should not worry, and no need to be obedient to Christ.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 God bless you
@@KrscanskaApologetika And you
I hope you have a blessed year but remember if the world gets dark that Jesus is the light of the world and can comfort you in this life and the next. When you repent and Believe in Jesus you will only regret that you didn’t sooner.
Romans 10: 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
As a person that use to believe in once saved always saved,, the Lord showed me how i was wrong to believe this way even though the scripture appears to mean with a certain interpretation, and if your taught by a pastor that believes this. The Bible teaches us that we are saved by faith and not by works lest any man should boast, and the Bible also teaches faith without works is dead. There are two different works which are faith works and mans works. You can never be saved by mans works which if we believed this way you would have to sacrifice for your sins like they did in the Old Testament. So when someone says you believe in works and not the blood of Jesus for those that believe in repentance this is not true since we do not sacrifice for sins, but turn away from sins and believe in Jesus and his sacrifice for our sins. So what does the Bible actually teach on faith works?
James 2:14-26 KJV
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
True faith will always have works. Why was Abraham justified by faith? Because of his works of faith by offering up his son upon the altar to show he had true faith. Abraham obeyed the Lord.
Hebrews 11:7-11 KJV
7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.
what does Jesus say about those that do great wonders in his name but live in sin?
Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity(sin).
Not that anyone is perfect, but there is a difference between willfully sinning not caring because you know Jesus's blood covers you, and godly sorrow of sin and turning away from it even if you have done the same sin before. You never stop running to Jesus when you sin. Think about all the testimonies you have heard from people that lived in sin that were believers and beat those sins because of Jesus, and also turning away way that sin(repentance). Not willfully sinning without care, but though godly sorrow to repentance.
2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV
10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
So the truth is you cant get to heaven by your works(mans works), but only by faith(faith works) in Jesus by his blood that covers all sins(no more sacrificing for sins).
1 John 1:9 KJV
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
The ministers in this video would benefit to debate with ministers like Isaiah Saldivar, TJ Maca
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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Del Tackett actually goes STRAIGHT to the text and gives the xegesis of it to the original readers of the letter and doesn't say things like "I feel " ..." I think" or such phrases. He gives the context and exegetes.
I can’t remember. Was he advocating eternal security? I am with Pastor Mark and Tony Cook on this one. I believe that we have eternal life as long as we remain in Christ. Two peter two, Jude, Hebrews 6 verses 4:6, and especially 10 versus 25:29 persuade me. I totally get that both sides of the Scriptures and there are definitely godly men and women on both sides of the issue, but even one Timothy 4:1 says that in the last days some shall depart from the faith. How can you depart from something that you’ve never been a part of? Anyhow… We’ve all heard the debate. I know one thing. I’m not gonna risk it.
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God).
Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts?
John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
@@ryandawson2877 depart from the tenets of the faith? is that eluding to false Doctrines ie self believism, that Joel olstens promote....
Keep in mind that I came here to get answers to a question, with no preconceived notion. In the end, I respectfully disagree with your statement. I outlined the arguments as they were presented and when you write out the question and then the rabbit trail answers, he never directly answers anything but instead "gets passionate" and speaks verbosely sorta around the subject kinda but it all sounds good. I got so frustrated in the sections where I was noting both him and Alex. I kept saying "please just answer the question".
Again, definitely not arguing, just suggesting you go back through and outline the conversations and see what you come away with. (Because I kept pausing, it took 6 hours to do it the way that I did, but I am not sorry because I got answers that I had been looking for.)
Over the last few days I’ve seen so many videos of people who are “deconstructing” their faith. Yes, absolutely they were saved at one point, but they have chosen to simply renounce and walk away. So will Jesus force them into heaven? No! They made their choice to walk away. No one can say they were “never saved”. The parable of the sower speaks of this. And if Jesus can Vomit you out from in Him!? Were u ever in Him to be vomited out? Absolutely. Once saved always saved, like the “pre trib” rapture, saved by faith alone, sola scriptora are 100% non biblical. The works u will quote will be works of the law that we don’t need, we do however need works of love.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
If Man will think he can lose his/her salvation will bring them to heaven because they are aware of the consequences of Sin,but if man will think he cannot lose his/her salvation whatever they will Do it will lead them to hell because they are not aware of their sin,and let us remember that the tactics of satan to bring human to hell is to take away our fears in God and Sin,as what he did in the Garden of Eden
The Lord remains faithful even when we don't. As a person grows in the Lord they will sin less, but they won't be sinless.
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 no the reference says and He will never blot out
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 back sliding is mentioned once in the bible in Jeremiah , just once and that was under the conditional old covenant, not the newer better one. NOT ITS NOT A LICENSE TO SIN as Paul explains, but because you might fall time to time doesn't mean you lose your salvation. Rediculous. I'm with Corey on this one and many other OSSS Once Saved Sometimes Saved is a false Gospel and is not good news ever and backloads salvation with works and hinders the true gospel of grace and produces theologies like Roman Catholic, seventh day Adventists, worldwide church of God , mormons and Jehovah witnesses etc. Very destructive is OSSS vs OSAS.
@@adamguy33if your are without faith on the day you stand before God you will go to eternal separation from God.
The problem i have with once saved always saved is the false sense of security that for SOME could lead to compromising with evil and feeling comfortable doing so. Also.. to say that just because we trusted in Jesus in the beginning doesnt mean we will remain faithful to the end which is why we are told to endure and persevere and abide. I know people dont like the way it sounds but our salvation is conditional. Otherwise unbelievers would be saved. I know its through Christ that i have the opportunity to be saved but he asks us to do a few things but they arent burdensome they are just different than the things the world does and we need to be very aware of the things expected of us and of me as a disciple of Christ. 2 Timothy 2:13 says we can be faithless but Jesus remains faithful. Its not Jesus's faith that saves us. Its our faith.
WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE?
To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
CAN JESUS CHRIST ,,,UN,,,, REDEEME U AFTER HE REDEEMS U ?
I will say this. Because of various passages, I do not believe in once saved always saved. I believe that apostasy as possible. But But it doesn’t bother me if people believe in the perseverance of the Saints. This is the teaching that all genuine saints will persevere to the end, but it does not teach that you can live anywhere you want without the discipline of the Lord and still make it. I can live with that. I can live with the teaching that if you never have any fruit of the spirit and you never live for Christ that you were never born again. I can see what these brothers and sisters are saying, but I believe if someone teaches that you can live however forever and never exhibit fruit, but you were still saved, that is super dangerous. Those people seem to make no room for the genuine warnings of Scripture. These brothers are not doing that. I do however believe that they are reading into the warning texts that these are not genuine Christians because they have to say that to support their doctrine. God preserves those who persevere.
so you just have to be a good person to go to heaven?
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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@@snackpupSalvation is conditional and that's biblical.
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Thank you for posting. Illuminating
I don't think this was brought up...?
If God can blot out one's name out of the book of life, what does that say about His omniscience?
Have you ever lied, lusted sexually, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God).
Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts?
John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
the question still stands, what does it say about God's omniscience?
(1John 1:8 [KJV])
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(1John 1:9 [KJV])
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(1John 1:10 [KJV])
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
@@MannyCarisma CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
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In my humble opinion….
The most secure salvation would include the continued possession of freewill of the saved individual to reject their salvation.
It is the only path that maintains the concept of being able to know your own standing (saved or not-saved) with God at all times of your life.
If a believer can’t reject their salvation…
Then all believers are just people waiting to see if they believe until they die (truly saved) or reject their salvation at some point and become apostates who were “never saved.” Worse yet, they could go their whole lives deceived into thinking they are followers of Jesus, only to hear Jesus say he never knew them at the end.
Without the ability to reject salvation, how can a person ever truly know that they aren’t a deceived apostate waiting to be exposed?
Only one side of this debate puts the individual into the position to KNOW their standing with God. God wants us to KNOW. God wants us to be secure.
Interesting. Think of the early Christians. They refused to recant their faith unto death. Meaning there is weight to our public testimony. Irrespective of our public behavior. you said "The most secure salvation would include the continued possession of freewill of the saved individual to reject their salvation." This is an important distinction. One must realize what they are at risk to lose to appreciate the loss so to speak.
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
1:20:08
But you do want your will, because you want a real, meaningful relationship with God, and He wants one with you, hence Him,giving you free will.
Even if you dont want it, God wants it for you.
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian.
1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
They're not exclusive. You can do both.
We can't take 1st John out of context.
Even Christians can sin.
But allowing an enslavement to sin is clearly not good. Non repentance is clearly not good.
@@ethanrichard4950 Not just not good it will take you to hell
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
This is easy they are going in circles. Once save always save is in the bible. Period. You believe it or you don't. I do.
I believe that any messages that comes from Matt. Mark, Luke and John ( old testament). The messages are for the Jews not the Gentiles. The Church is under Paul's apostles. So you have to go by what Paul says. Peace
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Jesus said "I Never knew you", not I "Once" knew you. Those were never saved. How can Jesus say He never knew someone who once had the Spirit of Christ in them?
Amen. Heaven is full of broken Christians, not perfect Christians.
Jesus knows who are real Children of God and Fake Christian.
The bible mention those who Endure until the last is Save.
@@都築重広 Jesus said if you have believed you are saved.
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
I should add, aphistemi is Strong's 868; and apostasia is Strong's 646.
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire.
I'm a born again Christian. I'm in the OSAS camp.
First of all....was King David saved?
Did he do some things unpleasant to God? Answer to both....yes!
So your life is not conditional towards your salvation. Jesus performs the goid work in you...until the day of redemption! Ephesians 1:13,14;4:30.
Yes, you can't lose your salvation.
John 10: 27-29 ( I'm paraphrasing)
No MAN can pluck you out if the Father's hand, that includes your own self.
We are born with flesh....so we all sin everyday in thought, word and deed...and so no flesh shall enter into heaven, therefore, I and believers will get a glorified body.
Plus....in 1 John 3:9 tells us the child born of God( born again) doth not commit sin, which means that Jesus' seed remains in us, so God the Father sees Jesus in us rather than our sin. Jesus is our advocate!
No...we cannot willfully renounce Christ cause scripture tells us Jesus REMAINS faithful.
Matthew 7:21-23 people do not understand.....
In verse 21 Jesus says...those who do the WILL of my Father which is in heaven will enter into the kingdom of heaven.
So....what's the WILL of the Father on heaven?
John 6:40
40 And this is the will of him who sent me this every one which seeth the Son and believeth on him shall have everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day.
What's wrong with some and most people ( MANY, NOT FEW) is that their trusting in themselves and makes one think are they really saved in the first place? I don't think they are, they would be the ones Jesus tells...I never knew you in Matthew 7:23.
Lastly....remember....it's not how we live...cause if that's the case, an Atheist can be good.
We MUST decipher between salvific scriptures and discipleship scriptures, keep scriptures in context. Read scripture FOR scripture, rightly dividing the word of truth.
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Lol...
No one EVER has gone to heaven or hell and comes back to earth, I repeat...NO ONE goes to hell or heaven and comes back to earth to tell their story.
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord...
If you go you stay...which ever place it is.
The difference between you and me is...I KNOW where I'm going....
1 John 5:13
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God that YE MAY KNOW that ye HAVE eternal life and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
That's just by believing on His name!!!
Most of ya'll don't believe the bible anyway.
It's bad enough you had to like your own comment.
You lordship people will just not get it...I guess that's the strong delusion that God puts on some people.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
You dont understand that the book of James was written to BRETHREN!!
James 4:7 ( in other words) is saying that believing and trusting in God ( those of us who do this) have the POWER over the devil!
There is no association of the light with the dark...
You sound like you're trusting in yourself, you might as well be your own saviour.
Which is what happens to those in Matthew 7:21-23 to those people in verse 22....they were saying Lord, haven't we prophesied in thy name, cast out devils I'm thy name, and done many wonderful WORKS!?
They will hear, depart from me, I NEVER knew you... because we who are 💯 believing and trusting in Christ doth bot commit sin...1 John 3:9
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Cause in verse 21 Jesus says those who do the WILL of the Father in heaven will enter into the kingdom of heaven.
So....biblically speaking what's the WILL of the Father?
John 6:40
40 And this is the will of him that sent me that every one which seeth the Son and BELIEVETH on him shall HAVE everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day .
So it's for those who BELIEVE! Not believing and putting your faith in your works....it's putting 💯 of your faith in Jesus Christ ONLY!!
@@kathyhenderson8902 So Hitler believed in the name of the Son of God but He's in hell, countless people have seen heaven and hell
REAL MEANING OF JOHN 3:16 AND THE WORD BELIEVE
Most people do not understand John 3:16 , the verse says Believe in the only begotten Son. Most people think believe Jesus died for my sins and rose from the dead so I can have my sins forgiven and go to Heaven, that is true, but the verse is saying way more than that otherwise fake Christians would be in Heaven like Hitler, unrepentant sinners. (Wheat among the Tares, Sheep amongst the goats etc)
Believe means to believe whom Jesus is, everything He did and everything He said. Jesus said you must repent (Luke 13:3) and He said strive (make effort) to enter by the narrow gate because many people will seek to enter and will not be able to , everyone in their right mind wants to go to Heaven but live in Sin and will go to Hell, so repent today.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Just how do YOU know Hitler is in hell...
Did you know Hitlers heart?
NO!!
A false doctrine that has the potential to dam ones soul. And yet there is tremendous respect for one another.when the debate is over we can all sing kumbaya together on our way to the restaurant. It’s time for judgement to begin with the household of God
People often say, “I’m not hurting anyone so it’s ok to sin (lying, stealing, sexual sins, disrespecting parents etc)” The same God who said to love your neighbour first said to love Him to the best of your ability. If you carry on sinning, then you do not love God but are selfish like the devil so you will be joined to your father in hell or repent of your sins and believe in Jesus as God so Jesus adopts you as His child and you will join Him in Heaven forever.
1:44:50
1:48:10
Sure. No one can snatch them away from His hand. Question is; if they decide to leave by themselves.
[John 10:27-29]
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
FREEWKLL & OSAS
Christianity is a lifestyle of obedience and faith in Jesus. You can freely choose not to obey so you are not a Christian. The Bible literally says one can lose their salvation (see below)
Mark 8: 36 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and LOSES his own soul?
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363that's not talking about believers, but those who choose world pleasures over God and Jesus's sacrifice
@@samirpernell2136 People underestimate hell, it is bad because it is separation from God. In a vision I was shown a perron who claimed to be Christian but started fornication (premarital sex), He died relatively young and went to hell forever (1 Cor 6:9). God’s holiness means He will not coexist with sinners forever therefore Repent (Luke 13:3) and have a relationship with Jesus.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Not all visions are of God. What you've just told me is incredibly dangerous behavior/beliefs. The devil comes as an angel of light as well. The human psyche is deceivingly wicked. Trust the word alone.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is not a salvation text. Inheritance is a REWARD IN HEAVEN. It isn't salvation. Colossians 3:24
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
You don't lose salvation for being a bad Christian, you lose rewards. You can't lose salvation at all. Believing you can is believing that your own good deeds and actions hold as much weight as the death of Christ and His blood. This is self righteousness, and having faith in your own performance and not faith that christ has you eternally sealed. This is why christ rejects those in Matthew 7:21-23
Can a believer lose their salvation? Answer is NO check John 10:28-29, Jude 24-25
On which conditions does Jesus give "THEM eternal life" (John 10:28), and "THEY-will never perish" (John 10:28), and someone "will not snatch THEM" (John 10:28) out of His hand?
On the conditions that THEY are part of His "SHEEP" (John 10:27), which "HEAR" His voice and "FOLLOW" Him. If one does not "HEAR" His voice, or does not "FOLLOW" Him, that one would not meet the required conditions anymore.
The "(One) BEING-ABLE to-keep them not-stumbling and to-make-(you)-stand in-the-presence-of His glory without-blemish in gladness" (Jude 1:24).
It is only written that the One is "BEING-ABLE" (Jude 1:24), not that the One will therefore do it unconditionally.
@@FTBTH-cam Amen...and Amen!
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
If anyone's salvation could be lost, everybody's would be... Salvation is God's work and is a gift - once received, it is God that keeps us. we would be unable to keep ourselves...if we did, it would be a work. Works don't qualify us for salvation, therefore lack of works cannot disqualify us. The Blood Atonement is God's covenant with believers through the Blood of His Son. We are beyond Satan's grasp as far as our salvation goes...he knows this and his mission then is to deter us from witnessing to others and hinder us from serving God. God's in charge of salvation...not us. In all actuality, if salvation is not eternal, it is, by no stretch of the imagination, salvation. It would be Probation, not salvation.. .
By grace are we saved through faith and faith without works is dead. I hope everybody can agree with these things.
You can not get to heaven through works but you can be lost without them. Faith is more than just believing. It starts with believing and the second part of faith is belief put into action. If a believer does not exercise their faith it can wane, become weak and eventually it can go out.
Without faith we can't have belief so this is how someone can become lost after having come to the belief. Believing by itself is not enough as the Bible says, even the devils believe and tremble. Surely they will not be saved for believing however.
The Holy Spirit does not take people by force. The spirit ministers to the believer. The believer still has choice. They can choose to not continue in habitual sins and by rejecting sin their faith grows stronger and their relationship with the Spirit grows stronger. Or they can choose to continue in habitual sins.
Continuing in habitual sins and ignoring the voice of the Spirit is then the believers works. Those works will cause the voice of the Spirit to that person to weaken and without the good work of rejecting sin the faith weakens and will eventually go out. That person will be lost. A believer with faith can and will still at times fall to sin. Once that happens the Spirit quickens the believer to come to repentance, repair their relationship and continue to move forward. As a believer successfully resists sin the temptation to sin weakens and the believer is strengthened in their faith by their good work.
If the believer chooses to not repent, repair and resist they can and likely will fall to that sin temptation over and over and it will become habitual. That will kill faith and the believer, if they don't come back to repentance will be lost. That has been that believers choice to cherish that sin instead of their relationship with the Spirit. This is why we never stop repenting of sin. If you were once saved always saved you would never be required to repent of sin again.
Matthew 16:27 - For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his FAITH? Well no. This verse says according to his works.
May the Spirt of God guide your studies.
A tree is known by its fruit likewise a real Christian produces good fruit. Suppose you have a apple tree and a strawberry tree both growing, how do I know which is which? The tree that produces strawberries is the strawberry tree and the one that produces apples is the apple tree, likewise a so called Christian who is worldly/sinful is not a real Christian.
Matthew 3:10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire
But now it is no longer I who do it but sin that lives in me. Rom 7:17,20.. You become a Christian and then sin shows up and we doubt our salvation and then we get born again and again and again. You get born again only once, how do you get unborn?
If you tell everyone that you are a carpenter but day in and out, you do the work of an accountant are you truly a carpenter? No, you are an accountant. Likewise, a Christian by name who lives contrary to Jesus’ teachings by living sinful/worldly is not a real Christian.
1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
From childhood. My cousin is a Christian. A faithful believer in Jesus Christ. Believes he is saved by his faith. After his college days. He became an atheist and rejected the existence of God. I wonder what happened to his salvation. Did he loose it? I want to help him come back to Christ. But he refuses and thinks i am crazy. He refuses to accept my prayers and thinks it is ridiculous to believe in Jesus Christ.
Believing isn't enough. Even Satan believes God exists. Jesus said a man cannot see the kingdom of heaven unless he is born again. So no matter how much studying, praying, thinking, serving... If you or him can't remember the day, the time, what you were doing when the Holy Spirit dwelt in you, you are not a "real" Christian. The experience is supernatural and unforgettable. I do not believe in eternal security. Matthew 24:13 Jesus says he who endures to the end is saved. 1 Corinthians 6 9-10...Can a Christian be gay? Paul says no and not only that all gay people will be in hell. All fornicators, all drunkards. He was writing to the church of Corinth, a Christian church. He is talking to believers. "Do not be deceived." Now why would he say that? To not be deceived! There are no atheist Christians! There's no homosexual Christians! You are in the faith until the end or you're not. There's no drug addict Christians! My brother was one of them and killed himself on an od. He thought he was good with God. Actually he went around telling people God was on his side. My mom doesn't believe he is in hell. I said then who are all these "bad" people going there that think they're good? No one goes to hell at the funeral home. Is it someone that murderers and doesn't repent and dies. Oh definitely. Okay well Paul says no murderers go to heaven. A drunkard is also a term for drug addict. You see it's always the other person. No mom can believe their kid was the bad one. No person wants to believe they are in err. Once saved always saved to me is Calvinist. There's nothing you can do God is going to save you even if you start a Satanic church.
Why should God let you into Heaven?
Have you lied (even once in your entire life), looked with lust (sexual desire), dishonoured parents, stolen anything, had hatred towards someone, had premarital sex, adultery etc If you answered yes to any one of the above then you are a sinner like the rest of us.
So, I ask you again, why should God let a sinner into Heaven?
Sinners don’t go to heaven they go to hell, But we are blessed to have Jesus (God incarnate) die on the Cross and rise from the dead. If you Repent (forsake your sinful, unholy ways and live righteous instead) & Believe in Jesus as God, you will be seen as a Saint and welcomed into Heaven.
John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved
@@Manbunmen65 HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED?
Okay suppose you are right about Eternal Security. How do you know you are saved to begin with ( You’re assuming that you are)? Allot of people were raised Christian but live like the rest of the world lying, stealing, sexual sins, dishonouring parents etc So you aren’t saved from your sins, if sin has dominion over you.
But by the power of Jesus, you overcome sin and God gives you a new heart where you seek after holiness (Born again). 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Ronans 11:22Therefore, consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him.”
Yes no one can pluck you from God’s hand, but you are free to jump out.
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Many will think there wheat
But be soughted out in the chaff.
Hold your salvation closest to you
Otherwise you can lose it
And i truely don't know if you can redeem it
Just speaking my truths
Over all Christian life feels empty now.
And the church a lonely place
As if geuinine, i look hard at this the churchs most should and thats everyone who calls themself saved.
REAL MEANING OF JOHN 3:16 AND THE WORD BELIEVE
Most people do not understand John 3:16 , the verse says Believe in the only begotten Son. Most people think believe Jesus died for my sins and rose from the dead so I can have my sins forgiven and go to Heaven, that is true, but the verse is saying way more than that otherwise fake Christians would be in Heaven like Hitler, unrepentant sinners. (Wheat among the Tares, Sheep amongst the goats etc)
Believe means to believe whom Jesus is, everything He did and everything He said. Jesus said you must repent (Luke 13:3) and He said strive (make effort) to enter by the narrow gate because many people will seek to enter and will not be able to , everyone in their right mind wants to go to Heaven but live in Sin and will go to Hell, so repent today.
A question I've had for many years is, if Satan was a perfect being and is lost, how can anyone be once saved always saved. my belief is you need have a day-to-day personal relationship with Christ. The belief that after you are saved you can do anything and never lose your salvation doesn't ring true.
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Most of the verses people use to try say you can lose your salvation are meant for the end time Jews. You will never understand the bible unless you use dispensationalism to rightly divide verses to the right people and time period. We are in the church age and are saved by grace and faith alone.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Once saved, always saved is a lie, or your pastor simply doesn't know what the Bible says. Here is a single scripture that tells us that we can, and many will, lose their salvation.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
KJV
The "falling away" in verse 3 is people losing their salvation! IF YOUR PASTOR TELLS YOU ANYTHING ELSE THEN YOU SHOULD RUN FROM HIM AND STUDY THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF. These preachers are mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24:4-5.... THEY are the deceivers.
Matthew 24:4-5
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
KJV
Matt 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
In the scripture Matthew 7:21-23 the reason that Jesus said that He never knew them is because they refused to obey God... they refused to keep God's 10 commandments and they refused to keep God's sabbath. If you reas Exodus 31 you will see that it clearly says that that is how God knows His people... they keep His sabbaths.
Your not saved, your a Torah worshiper. Orthodox Jews in Israel today keep the law better then you and their not saved, because the law is a curse and cant save anyone. Faith in Christ JESUS alone saves and no exceptions ever. Because of Christ JESUS I am inside the sabbath and I keep it everyday from Sunday to Saturday. There is a difference between pretending to keep the sabbath like you do and being inside the sabbath forever. You dont obey the commandments anyway, why because you can not and others on their way to hell keep it better then you do so your work is not only in vain its not even good work when you dont do it perfectly. Your either saved from the law or you are required to keep it perfectly at all times always without exception . You dont understand salvation and the truth is not in you
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first).
@@adamguy33 In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty said, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
Jesus warned the disciples about falling away in the garden. They “fell away” and went to sleep after He said to keep watch. We’re they not saved still? Of course they were. Falling away doesn’t necessarily mean to lose salvation.
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The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 you seem to be in a lot of of message with a very strong opinion. How do you explain romans 8:38-39. Are you telling me in the present or future that we can be separated from God? It clearly states nothing in the present and nothing in the future can not and will not separate you?
@@IrishG-fs4fy If you are with the Lord, Jesus is clear in His word
Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
@@IrishG-fs4fy If you don't love Jesus you will not go to Heaven
Most people have heard “Jesus/God loves you”. Does that mean they have a relationship with God and will go to heaven? Depends on the individual. A relationship is 2 sided, you receive love and you give love back. God showed His love by suffering, dying on the cross and rising from the dead for you, now you show Love back by repenting of your sins (lying,, stealing, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) and believing in Jesus as your Lord and saviour so that Heaven is in your future not hell
Two words rightly divide
SALVATION LOST
Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [a]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
That’s for those that knew the truth of Christ finished work on the cross and then reject it but yes salvation lost
@@Foodforyoursoul022 If you live in sin you will go to hell like everyone else, the end times chuch is lukewarm , ine foot in the wold and one foot with God so manyof them go to hell
In one of my visitations to hell, Jesus showed me a person who was a Christian (Jesus said “he was a Christian like you”). But the guy unfortunately started sleeping around (1 cor 6:9). He died middle aged and went to hell forever it was dark but Jesus lit up the area, he asked Jesus for another chance but unfortunately it was too late for him, Pretty sad, Repent and ask Jesus to help you with your struggles (James 4:7)
1:58:12 He talks about Brethren wondered from the truth, is he talking about brethren who stopped believing that Jesus Christ was resurrected because some jews around them during that time were still believing that Jesus Christ was not resurrected and that brethren had little faith to believe in what he believed 🤔🤔🤔
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN? (VERY IMPORTANT)
Unfortunately, many so called Christians are not born again so they will not enter Heaven. To be born again requires one to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. By having a personal relationship, they will cease from doing sinful things in their past (sanctification) and live Holy instead. That way they know God and are known by Him.
[2Cor. 5 :17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
"I got 4 preachers up here, y'all could be here till next week"
Yep, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference to the "yes" or "no" question, which is "Once you accept Jesus Christ into your heart as your savior are you always saved?" Again, the answer is either yes, or it is no. And watching Christians point out contradiction after contradiction in their Bible not a single one of you has even truly questioned the "atheist" position, which is, could it be that possibly there is no god at all? Wouldn't that explain why we have one group of people who believe that Jesus is a god who claim that "yes, once saved always saved" and another group of people who claim to believe in Jesus as a god who say "NO! Once saved NOT always saved."? If Jesus is really a god he's clearly leading one of you astray, or letting the devil deceive you. As an atheist it's like watching two people argue over which trilogy is the "one true trilogy?" Is it Star Wars? Is it Lord of the Rings? Is it the Godfather? Truth is in the eye of the beholder.
GOD IS EVIL?
God hates sin and when people don’t change (Repent) He has to release His wrath because they’re only going to get worse and do more harm to themselves and society at large. A judge today sentences people to death sentence as a last option (Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’)
In the Old Testament God was constantly referred to as Psalm 145: 8 The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. Slow to anger means He gets angry eventually, God just doesn’t tolerate sin forever.
Noah preached for 120 years about the judgement to come, and no one changed the land was filled with sexual sins, violence, wickedness of every kind. So after much patience God flooded the earth; but make no mistake it was with a heavy heart
CHRISTIANS DON’T GO TO HELL (BUT FALSE CHRISTIANS DO AND SUFFER MORE)
Ivan Tuttle died and went to hell (also heaven) and God showed him why? Find out why th-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/w-d-xo.html
There's 100% evidence of God, atheist is a religion on its own they have to believe that God is not real they go off their own faith in hopes what they believe is true.
@@-_-THINK-_- What is the evidence and for which god?
@@Stabsnipers Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. And what evidence do you need to believe in God?
A debate on OSAS without any dispensation, Right division and lack of timeline. This is extremely foolish.
IS CHRISTIANITY A LICENSE TO SIN?
Christianity is not a license to sin. Christianity means Belief in God and Obedience towards his Commandments. One of his commandments is to repent of sin. God commands Holiness and to bear fruits. To be a Christian means to follow Christ, Jesus was sinless so you should strive for perfection.
Galatians 5: 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [a]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 if one is truly saved. That individual will walk with God as God is in him. Scripture could not be more clear as to the insignificants of ones own works in regards to ones salvation. I would suggest those written about in you quoted scripture. To re-evaluate their position so as to receive the Holy Spirits guidance. Obviously they did not acquire it the first time around.
All your Heart, All your Soul and All your Mind. Doesn't get any more serious than that.